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Mrs Robinson
01-03-2008, 04:08 PM
MOSCOW. (Oleg Sorokhtin for RIA Novosti) – Stock up on fur coats and felt boots! This is my paradoxical advice to the warm world.

Earth is now at the peak of one of its passing warm spells. It started in the 17th century when there was no industrial influence on the climate to speak of and no such thing as the hothouse effect. The current warming is evidently a natural process and utterly independent of hothouse gases.

The real reasons for climate changes are uneven solar radiation, terrestrial precession (that is, axis gyration), instability of oceanic currents, regular salinity fluctuations of the Arctic Ocean surface waters, etc. There is another, principal reason—solar activity and luminosity. The greater they are the warmer is our climate.

Astrophysics knows two solar activity cycles, of 11 and 200 years. Both are caused by changes in the radius and area of the irradiating solar surface. The latest data, obtained by Habibullah Abdusamatov, head of the Pulkovo Observatory space research laboratory, say that Earth has passed the peak of its warmer period, and a fairly cold spell will set in quite soon, by 2012. Real cold will come when solar activity reaches its minimum, by 2041, and will last for 50-60 years or even longer.

http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080103/94768732.html

BeastofBears
01-03-2008, 06:49 PM
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080103/94768732.html

Warming and cooling spells unrelated to human activity can be traced through ancient Egypt's climate change and political upheavals. As an Egyptologist specializing in times of chaos and upheaval, I dealt with climate a lot. It's a cycle not related to human production of carbon dioxide or methane (though onions and garlic were dietatary staples :grin:)

BoB

je suis
01-04-2008, 04:21 AM
Warming and cooling spells unrelated to human activity can be traced through ancient Egypt's climate change and political upheavals. As an Egyptologist specializing in times of chaos and upheaval, I dealt with climate a lot. It's a cycle not related to human production of carbon dioxide or methane (though onions and garlic were dietatary staples :grin:)

BoB Melting of arctic glaciers will interupt warm water streams, and thus Europe will experience cold for a while. I live at 42 latitude in the US. It's cold and snows alot. Compare 42 across the pond.

Human activity is not responsible for all of climate obviously. But, the industrial revolution is only one hundred some years. Anyone doubting the science should ask: How do I benifit from this or not? Changing of the ways is a huge task, and I'd rather stick my head in the sand. Or, just blame the sun.

EastCoastAngel
01-05-2008, 08:01 PM
However, the chemicals (including gasses that we use in our cars and heat our houses) are adding to increased periods of warmer weather. A few hundred years ago, the earth's climate was affected by the cutting down of forests to build houses and make way for farmland. The industrialization of the West has added to the problem (with the release of flourocarbins, chemicals to promote crop growth, etc). The invention of the automobile has quickly excellerated the problem. What we have done in the last three hundred or so years to this planet will be felt for a long time to come. The warm period we are going through now may be part of natural cycle, however; it is getting unnaturally warmer each winter and that is not part of the cycle. That is caused by the pollution we have added to the atmosphere. That is the damage that we have done.

je suis
01-30-2008, 02:07 AM
However, the chemicals (including gasses that we use in our cars and heat our houses) are adding to increased periods of warmer weather. A few hundred years ago, the earth's climate was affected by the cutting down of forests to build houses and make way for farmland. The industrialization of the West has added to the problem (with the release of flourocarbins, chemicals to promote crop growth, etc). The invention of the automobile has quickly excellerated the problem. What we have done in the last three hundred or so years to this planet will be felt for a long time to come. The warm period we are going through now may be part of natural cycle, however; it is getting unnaturally warmer each winter and that is not part of the cycle. That is caused by the pollution we have added to the atmosphere. That is the damage that we have done.


All I've read here so far are people with an agenda and/or those unqualified to state an opinion.

je suis
01-30-2008, 02:08 AM
However, the chemicals (including gasses that we use in our cars and heat our houses) are adding to increased periods of warmer weather. A few hundred years ago, the earth's climate was affected by the cutting down of forests to build houses and make way for farmland. The industrialization of the West has added to the problem (with the release of flourocarbins, chemicals to promote crop growth, etc). The invention of the automobile has quickly excellerated the problem. What we have done in the last three hundred or so years to this planet will be felt for a long time to come. The warm period we are going through now may be part of natural cycle, however; it is getting unnaturally warmer each winter and that is not part of the cycle. That is caused by the pollution we have added to the atmosphere. That is the damage that we have done.


Yes, you have told the truth. It's dang scary.