My Final Thoughts

[Micky_Spill]

Posted on Myspace (http://www.mydeathspace.com/go.aspx?back=/article/2009/01/30/John_Jeremy_Taylor_(25)_took_his_own_life_by_an_un known_method&go=http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3ffuseaction%3duser.viewprofile%26friend id%3d7878025)


Not to be confused with myself
My Final Thoughts

So a lot of people are probably asking themselves, “Why?”



Well, let me start off with saying that I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. I think my first thoughts of harming myself actually were when I was in the 4th or 5th grade, and although for the life of me (no pun intended- okay, maybe a little) I cannot recall any event of any importance that sparked it. Perhaps it was the difficulty of admitting to myself that I am gay. Once I was able to do that though, the thoughts never went away, so I’m not even sure that’s the reason. I never really told anybody about the thoughts, but since I like control, I always knew that suicide was how I was going to go so I could control my fate. I mean, does it surprise anybody that I am a control freak? I’m guessing not…



I also made a decision a long time ago that I didn’t want to live past 25. Because that was my target age, I set out goals that I wanted to reach by that time. I told myself that I wanted to own a house, have a job where I made over $60,000 a year, and have a wife and kids. Does the fact that I wanted a wife and kids tell you anything about how long ago I set my target age? Anyway, I now have a beautiful house, I make over the $60,000 a year, and I obviously have scratched wanting a wife and kids meaning I met all of my goals (with the help of a few close people of course).



So now let’s jump to the present times. To clear any doubts, I do not have any major medical issues. I’m not HIV+ and I do not have any other life-threatening medical illnesses. Winter has just always been difficult for me. I’m always much more depressed in the winter than any other time of the year, so once again this last year it came back strong. (That’s why I started my Gingerbread House Parties. It always got my mind off of things and gave me something to look forward to.) In addition to my usual depression, this year I had a major event strike me on Christmas Eve. Some of you are aware of the major event, and for those of you that aren’t I’ll tell you that I was accused of something that happened because somebody was out to ruin my life. Because of this accusation, I stood to lose everything in my life. Even if it was proven that I am innocent (which I am confident it would have been proven that way because I didn’t do it), after everything was said and done there was no way I could stay at my current job (thus lose everything because I wouldn’t be able to financially support myself) due to the nature of the accusations and people involved. Plus, there was no way I would want to and put everybody in such an awkward position. And as we all know from experience, there is always doubt in people’s mind as to whether you did it or not and I couldn’t live with that doubt. This event also started to have a major psychological impact on me in a huge negative way. I even went to the doctor and admitted I needed help, which was one of the hardest things I have ever done. I’ve always been too proud to admit I needed help with anything, and that’s probably why pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Anywho, this event had a major impact on my decision, but was not the only deciding factor since I’ve always wanted to do this.



Also, this last week, my friend Tyler West killed himself. I knew he was going to do it, and because of that I learned a lot. First of all, I took my 5th grade teacher’s advice and mourned him for one day, and after that stopped mourning because it was his decision (I suggest you all take that advice with me, but I’ll let you decide how you react). Suicide is a choice that is made by the person doing it, and their choice alone. Secondly I learned that suicide isn’t always the worst option. Now I know many of you will disagree, but I’m not talking about killing yourself over losing a boyfriend or girlfriend, I’m talking about when the pain becomes so much that you realize it will never go away. Time heals most things, but there are some things in life that stick with you forever no matter what meds you are on or what psychiatrist you are talking to. Besides those things that cannot go away, I’m not one to dwell on the past, but I’ve done a lot of things I’m not proud of, and those things haunt me because they are counter to anything I’ve lived for. Third, I realized that when somebody does take their life, it’s a lot easier when you don’t leave people with questions, which is why I’m taking the time to write this all to you. I know this letter won’t answer everything, but I’m hoping that some of your questions will be answered allowing you to heal quicker. Fourth, and probably most importantly I learned that when you do go, people should remember you for all the good times. It’s easy to be sorry for yourself because you lose somebody you know, but instead you should be happy they aren’t suffering from all the internal demons they were suffering from. They got what they really wanted, and if you ever had any respect for them, you should respect the fact that this was their wish and their choice. Nothing you could have done would have made any difference in the outcome if they were really set on suicide, just like in my case. Don’t wish you would have called me back when I called you, don’t say you shouldn’t have let me be alone, don’t wish that you would have kept in better touch, and don’t wish you didn’t come over for dinner when I asked if you wanted to, don’t wish you didn’t have that one last drink for me, and don’t regret any of those other silly things. Regret is the most wasted emotion because it is absolutely pointless. You can’t change what is already done; you can only learn from it and use what you learned toward future decisions.



And if it puts any of you to ease, I’m finally happy now, and have been truly happy for the last couple of days since I’ve finalized my decision. I’ve been toying with this idea for a long time like I said earlier, and I’m happy because I finally decided to do it. I’m happy because for the first time in my life I see an end to my suffering, a light at the end of a long dark tunnel if you will. I even got the first good night’s sleep this week that I’ve had in months. There is no reason to be sad for me. As all of you know that are close to me, I’ve done my best at doing my best in life. I’ve done my best to help as many people as I can. You should do the same. It’s not easy helping people, but besides my family and friends, helping people is one of the only things that have kept me on this journey called life as long as I have been. It’s one of the most fulfilling feelings ever.



Ultimately, I know that everybody will heal from losing me with time, but please don’t forget that I love you all, and I will for eternity. You all made my journey an overall good one. Please take care of each other now through this initial hard time, and use this as a way to become closer to each other as well as a lesson to love everybody in life as much as you can, because you never know when you might lose them.

[Pauli]

John passed away on January 14, 2009 :1222423:

[packy]

:1222423:

[lost indie]

John passed away on January 14, 2009 :1222423:

Who is John? Mickey?

in any case....RIP John...

[dojewo]

I was wondering who John is too, but do rest in peace John.:1222423:

[Micky_Spill]

Who is John? Mickey?

in any case....RIP John...


No I am still among the living, to think I did not even render a rose when you thought it may be me!

That is why I put in red type not to be confused with myself.

I have no idea who the John was, I did think his suicide note was fascinating, well thought out and not rambling, so I thought it gave a good inside glimpse at the final thoughts of a suicidal person.

[lost indie]

No I am still among the living, to think I did not even render a rose when you thought it may be me!

That is why I put in red type not to be confused with myself.

I have no idea who the John was, I did think his suicide note was fascinating, well thought out and not rambling, so I thought it gave a good inside glimpse at the final thoughts of a suicidal person.

Aw Mick...now I feel guilty..

:zm1:

I am glad it wasn't you...

:1222423::1222423:

:kissyface4:

[lost indie]

And now I want to know who John was and what happened on Christmas Eve...

[Emyo]

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/jan/17/john-taylor-25/

This is John's obituary :1222423:

[Pauli]

John Taylor, 25

http://media.kitsapsun.com/bsun/content/img/photos/2009/01/16/20090116-175459-pic-605526130_t220.jpg (http://www.kitsapsun.com/photos/2009/jan/16/77566/)

John Taylor
of Port Orchard
Aug. 8, 1983 to Jan. 14, 2009

John Jeremy Taylor, 25 of Port Orchard, died in Tacoma January 14, 2009. He was born August 8, 1983 in Bremerton to John and Frances Taylor.

John spent his whole life helping and serving others. He was employed by Central Communications in Kitsap County for several years as a dispatcher and supervisor. He was a volunteer firefighter and Emergency Medical Technician for Central Kitsap Fire & Rescue and also volunteered with YMCA. He enjoyed spending time with his family and friends.

John is survived by his parents John and Fran; his siblings Tom, Ryan, and Marie; half sisters Lisa and Toni; nieces, nephews, friends, and his puppy, Jesse.

Memorial service will be held at 2 p.m. on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 at Christian Life Center, 1780 Lincoln Avenue SE in Port Orchard. Online memorial at www.rill.com (http://www.rill.com/)

[Roamer]

R.I.P. John :1222423:

[dojewo]

No I am still among the living, to think I did not even render a rose when you thought it may be me!

That is why I put in red type not to be confused with myself.

I have no idea who the John was, I did think his suicide note was fascinating, well thought out and not rambling, so I thought it gave a good inside glimpse at the final thoughts of a suicidal person.
Micky, I did see you had that written in red and it's good to hear that it is not you. I feel for John, and the pain that he went through for years. He did write a very good/thought out letter.

[lost indie]

I wish John hadn't done this. He seemed like such a sweet young man...

[dojewo]

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/jan/17/john-taylor-25/

This is John's obituary :1222423:John was a very nice looking young man who helped a lot in his community. I'm sure he will be missed by many.

[lost indie]

John was a very nice looking young man who helped a lot in his community. I'm sure he will be missed by many.

I bet Jesse misses him...

[dojewo]

I bet Jesse misses him...
ITA Indie, and from the looks of his myspace page, many others will be missing him too.

[Micky_Spill]

Seems to be what triggered his suicide.

Was mentioned in his blog.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=33025702

[Harmony]

John's suicide note reminded me of this song. It was written by David Archuleta when he was 14 years old. He wrote it after a 21 year old in his family committed suicide. It is about feelings of despair and eventual hope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EmAZEy9n-Y

(Please delete if deemed not appropriate for this forum.)

[Amusedtdth]

I bet Jesse misses him...

My thoughts too, were of the puppy...I must admit though, for 25 years old, his views are much wiser than many midlifers I know. Sad as it is, it is what he wanted and I'm sure he's happy wherever he is. Too bad about the puppy...why get one is what I don't understand..?

[NyGurl]

that is soo sad, his letter was defently well thought out.. he knew exactly what he was talking about and what he was gonna do. wish he woulda talked to someone and get help.
even after reading that. i still dont fully understand why people kill themselves. i understand the deep depression within. he sounded like a great guy. my prayers are with his family

[Pandabear]

Please forgive me if my words seem too harsh and uncaring. I have seen the aftermath that suicide leaves in a family and I believe that taking your own life is the most selfish thing that anyone can do to those that are left behind.

Those left behind will spend the rest of their lives with the questions, the pain, the hurt, the anger and the wondering. The one who is gone took the coward's way out, either not thinking about, or not caring about, those that would be left to try and heal.

I have two very good friends who both lost their sons at 19 years of age. One young man took a gun and blew his brains out in his bedroom, and the other died when a drunk driver hit him head on when he was coming home from work. Neither of these mothers will ever get over the loss and the hurt. Their lives have been basically destroyed, and they are shells of their former selves.

The mother of the suicide "victim" can barely function, and she certainly can't take care of her other 2 children. Her marriage is hanging by a thread and her days of being a productive member of society are long past. She can't get past the feeling that somehow she was lacking in her parenting, and she can't get past the hurt of knowing that her son was willing to end his life and never see her again. She's been to doctors, clergy, self help clinics, etc. but nothing has helped for more than a few weeks. It hurts so much to see her pain and not be able to take it away.

The mother of the accident victim has slowly but surely gotten past the grief of sudden loss even though she still has days that she is totally out of it and can't face reality. She finally went into her son's bedroom just last week after 3 years of leaving it exactly as he left it the morning that he died. She is making progress and I'm very proud of her.

I see the difference in these two mothers who have both dealt with the death of their child, and I can't help but feel bitterness toward the young man who chose to take his own life. I wonder sometimes if he had actually known the destruction that he was leaving behind, would he have chosen the same path? He was a wonderful young man, and I can't imagine that he would sentence his mother to this hell on earth.

I understand that mental illness plays a huge part with some suicide "victims". But, I also feel that many times, these people just don't have the courage or the caring about themselves or others, to try and find a different answer. I pray for all the families of those who choose this way out of their pain. It leaves behind a world of suffering that is never ending, and it breaks my heart.

Thanks for letting me try and put my thoughts on this here. I do have much sympathy for this young man's family.

[packy]

It may appear to be a selfish act to many people, but when I think of how a person may have been in such throes of agony over thoughts of ending his/her existence it seems so hopeless that it may be that they can no longer control their actions.

[Pandabear]

Packy, you may be totally right. That's one of the questions that everyone who knew this young man has asked over and over. Was he so far gone that he was beyond help? If he was, it certainly wasn't obvious to those around him. And, that may be one of the things that causes the enormous amounts of grief. We all question ourselves and will always wonder if we did enough or if we could have done more to save him. It's a very tragic situation for everyone involved.

[NyGurl]

-in a way i do think suicide is selfish because they are really thinking about themselves and not really thinking about the aftermath how it effects there families. at that time they just know there unhappy. with who they are and the situations there in and just want to end it. This guy here... says... he knew he was not gonna live past 25 he had it all planned out in great detail and why. and he felt happy that it was going to be over soon.and realized it would hurt his family..but told them he loves them all. and basically move on..time will heal.. i dunno what to say fully about this guy.. except he had ALOT to say. im sure his family tried helping him and his friends.. i guess he had his mind made up and nobody was changing his path of life.

- i mostly feel bad for the mothers of the victims . i bet they have thought to themselves a billion times.. if there parenting skills was the way to go.. doubted themselves wondering if they were good parents.. its normal for them to question that.
and they shouldnt do that..they should never blame themselves. im sure they tried to help as much as that child allowed them too.. its really hard being a parent..and kids dont come with instructions. nobody is perfect.

-Prayers for the victims and to there families.

[PatC]

Parents who lose children will always second guess themself, I think. My son had called me as he left work to ask me to check the weather report for the next day since he wanted to ride his motorcycle if the weather was going to be good. I checked and told him the prediction was for 20% chance of showers... he said that was good enough, stopped by a friend's and picked up his motorcycle and was hit and killed by a young man in a pickup truck a few minutes later.

Why didn't I just say, "No good tomorrow, son, it's going to rain." Why did I have to give the percentage at all.

Why didn't I say, "Come over tonight, I just finished dinner." He'd have turned right instead of left when he left his friend's place.

Why didn't I .....




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[NyGurl]

i guess its just natural to second guess.. every person does it when it comes to a bad situation i even play the what if game.. i seem to torture myself doing it. Im sorry to hear about your Son. we all just want our kids to be happy.. safe..and healthy. and enjoying life.

[rockford2]

Parents who lose children will always second guess themself, I think. My son had called me as he left work to ask me to check the weather report for the next day since he wanted to ride his motorcycle if the weather was going to be good. I checked and told him the prediction was for 20% chance of showers... he said that was good enough, stopped by a friend's and picked up his motorcycle and was hit and killed by a young man in a pickup truck a few minutes later.

Why didn't I just say, "No good tomorrow, son, it's going to rain." Why did I have to give the percentage at all.

Why didn't I say, "Come over tonight, I just finished dinner." He'd have turned right instead of left when he left his friend's place.

Why didn't I .....




:z0tdntknw:

Oh Pat......:cray: You loved him. He knew it.

As for John? Nothing could have been done for him. Once a person makes up their mind to kill themself, I truly believe that even with the best of help, they will eventually do it.

[dega101653]

Oh Pat......:cray: You loved him. He knew it.

As for John? Nothing could have been done for him. Once a person makes up their mind to kill themself, I truly believe that even with the best of help, they will eventually do it.



Pat life is so full of should haves and could haves isn't it? You did what we ALL would have done. All the things you did all the days leading up to that day was what showed him you loved him. :love0081:


On the suicide being selfish. As someone who is in the midst of a child fighting depression and threats I feel this: While I watch her, love her, worry about her and live in fear for her I truly feel that if she does something it is not to be selfish. She has never had that trait before so I don't see her doing it at that one specific moment.

I really feel that sometimes the pain inside someone is just to great and too deep down for anyone viewing the outer package to really realize how bad the pain is. Everyone has a different pain tolerance and suicide is drastic, in their tortured world it may be the lesser of the evil. JMO

[Pandabear]

Parents who lose children will always second guess themself, I think. My son had called me as he left work to ask me to check the weather report for the next day since he wanted to ride his motorcycle if the weather was going to be good. I checked and told him the prediction was for 20% chance of showers... he said that was good enough, stopped by a friend's and picked up his motorcycle and was hit and killed by a young man in a pickup truck a few minutes later.

Why didn't I just say, "No good tomorrow, son, it's going to rain." Why did I have to give the percentage at all.

Why didn't I say, "Come over tonight, I just finished dinner." He'd have turned right instead of left when he left his friend's place.

Why didn't I .....




:z0tdntknw:


Oh God bless you Pat. I can't even imagine the pain.

One of the things that has been the hardest on everyone involved with these two mothers that I speak of is, the mother who lost her son to the drunk driver has been furious with the young man who took his own life. Her point has been that her son would have given anything to live and have a future, while the other one just selfishly ended it all that day. I think she has been as mad at him as she has the drunk that killed her son. It's taken a long time for these two mothers, who have been friends for many years, to get to the point that they can even communicate, much less discuss their losses.

Being friends with them both, I've been torn with my feelings. I also have a lot of bad feelings toward the boy who took his life, but it's because of the pain he has left for his family to deal with. I can certainly see the other mother's point of view. She has never "taken it out" on the mother of the suicide victim, but their life long friendship has basically been destroyed by the grief they both have. It's such a very sad situation for everyone involved.

dega, I pray that your daughter finds her way and finds peace in her life. God bless you.

[dega101653]

Oh God bless you Pat. I can't even imagine the pain.

One of the things that has been the hardest on everyone involved with these two mothers that I speak of is, the mother who lost her son to the drunk driver has been furious with the young man who took his own life. Her point has been that her son would have given anything to live and have a future, while the other one just selfishly ended it all that day. I think she has been as mad at him as she has the drunk that killed her son. It's taken a long time for these two mothers, who have been friends for many years, to get to the point that they can even communicate, much less discuss their losses.

Being friends with them both, I've been torn with my feelings. I also have a lot of bad feelings toward the boy who took his life, but it's because of the pain he has left for his family to deal with. I can certainly see the other mother's point of view. She has never "taken it out" on the mother of the suicide victim, but their life long friendship has basically been destroyed by the grief they both have. It's such a very sad situation for everyone involved.

dega, I pray that your daughter finds her way and finds peace in her life. God bless you.

Thank you Panda:love0081:

[PatC]

Panda, it sounds as if the mother who lost her son to the drunk driver may be “stuck” in the Anger Stage of grief and is unable for whatever reason to move on. I hope she is getting some professional help. The mother of the suicide victim has enough on her plate without having to deal with the, IMO, unreasonable anger of her friend.

I have a real problem with people who are so closed minded regarding those who take their own lives. Is it a selfish act? Perhaps. However, I honestly believe that the vast majority of those who do surrender to suicide believe that their loved ones will be better off in the long run with them gone. They are not intentionally selfish, they are just dealing with a pain unseen and frequently misunderstood. No to situations are the same. Had it been possible, it might well be that the suicide victim would gladly have bargained his death in return for the other boy… that just wasn’t an option.

Thank you all for your kind words. I no longer beat myself up over “might have beens” I only posted as an example. I take great joy in that last phone conversation since the last words we spoke to each other… which is what we always said in place of “goodbye”… were “I love you.”

[mattsmillion]

Anyone catch how he tells his friend Tyler that he's coming to see him the day before and Tyler had just passed away.
Check it out.....should have been a sign to a friend.
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=33025702

[mattsmillion]

If you had a friend about to do this would you say this to them?...
as long as you're happy john.
but i wish there was a different way of that.
if there is anything i can do to change your mind please tell me.
i can't let this happen dude.
you're a great guy.
nomatter what happens.
and i know you know that.
please reconsider.
please
Thats what Johns friend David said to him right before when john told him what he was about to do. What a friend!

[nanabillie]

That is so sad. You are right about the myspace post. Looks like someone would have seen it and tried to help. I feel so bad for people that think that is the answer. If they would just reach out for help. If the first person doesn't help go to someone else. After their gone it shows how many people really did care. Then it is too late and it has ruined the lives of their family. Well, it would ruin my life if it was my loved one. I'm sure it is almost unbearable to a parent.
We all need to be better listeners, we might could help.

[dega101653]

John's friend who also committed suicide.


http://www.funeralalternatives.org/Obit_Results.asp?ObitKey=1318


Tyler Matthew West

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Birth: 12/27/1988

Death: 1/9/2009

Interred: 1/18/2009

Service Information:
2:00 PM, Sunday, January 18, 2009, Masonic Center, 455 North St SE, Tumwater, Washington - Potluck immediately following Interment

Interment: Odd Fellows Memorial Park, Tumwater, WA

Visitation Information: 1:00 PM Prior to Services

Obituary:
Tyler Matthew West
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Tyler Matthew West, son of Garrett and Blanche West, was born on December 27, 1988 and left this world far too soon on January 9, 2009, at the age of 20, with a bright future ahead of him. He was a resident of Port Orchard, attended South Kitsap High School, and worked his way from Busboy to cook at Spiros. He then moved on to Myers Café and had recently moved to Seattle to attend Seattle Central College and accept a job at the new Hyatt. He was enrolled to begin classes in the spring with an ambition towards becoming a Doctor. He enjoyed being with his friends and making music, as he played a variety of instruments.

Services will be held on Sunday the 18th of January, 2009 2:00 pm at the Masonic Center, 455 North Street, Tumwater, WA. Viewing will be held at 1:00 prior to the services. We will share memories and celebrate the life of Tyler together at a potluck immediately after the service, same location.

You may leave memories of Tyler and condolences for the family by clicking on "View Guestbook" below.

[Louise]

That is so sad. You are right about the myspace post. Looks like someone would have seen it and tried to help. I feel so bad for people that think that is the answer. If they would just reach out for help. If the first person doesn't help go to someone else. After their gone it shows how many people really did care. Then it is too late and it has ruined the lives of their family. Well, it would ruin my life if it was my loved one. I'm sure it is almost unbearable to a parent.
We all need to be better listeners, we might could help.

Unfortunately, some people just can't be helped no matter how hard you try. I tried to help a close friend before she committed suicide and it helped for a little while but her problems returned in a big way after she moved back to her home state and she ended up taking her own life. John's story is sad no doubt and I am sure he will be missed very much by those that knew him.

RIP John

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[WarmNCozy]

Unfortunately, some people just can't be helped no matter how hard you try. I tried to help a close friend before she committed suicide and it helped for a little while but her problems returned in a big way after she moved back to her home state and she ended up taking her own life. John's story is sad no doubt and I am sure he will be missed very much by those that knew him.

RIP John

:1222423:

From Steel Magnolias - Shelby to her Mother
"I would rather have thirty minutes of wonderful than a lifetime of nothing special."

Maybe that's how John felt!

Having lost a daughter to suicide in the last year, I know all about the pain.

[Louise]

From Steel Magnolias - Shelby to her Mother
"I would rather have thirty minutes of wonderful than a lifetime of nothing special."

Maybe that's how John felt!

Having lost a daughter to suicide in the last year, I know all about the pain.

I am sorry. :love0085:

[rockford2]

From Steel Magnolias - Shelby to her Mother
"I would rather have thirty minutes of wonderful than a lifetime of nothing special."

Maybe that's how John felt!

Having lost a daughter to suicide in the last year, I know all about the pain.

I'm so sorry for you loss. I truly am. :1222423:

[WarmNCozy]

I'm so sorry for you loss. I truly am. :1222423:

Thank you. Unlike John who had it planned out, Allison's death was a kind of knee-jerk reaction. This was not someone who was planning on dying. She was going ahead with a divorce from an abusive alcoholic husband, opening up a beautiful business devoted to cageless boarding on over 3 acres with a separate house for the dogs. She made coffee that morning, made her typical fruit smoothie for breakfast, had taken all her vitamins and meds and was set for the day. She got a life changing call about a half hour later putting her out of business, and unbeknownst to us all, there was a gun in the house (she lived out in the woods which made sense afterward) and she used it on herself when she got off the phone. No note, no phone calls, just like that she was gone! What a terrible waste. She was so special! And I miss her dearly!

[lindamarie]

Suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. I read every word he wrote. It may give us an understanding of how a person MIGHT feel. Reading it made me very angry. What about all the pain he left behind just so he could feel better? Selfish is the best word to describe him and his words.

[texanne]

They are suffering a pain no one can see when they commit suicide. They see no way out of the pit...no way. If they could see a way out of their predictament, they would take it. It does no good to get angry at them. I know a couple who could see their son was extremely depressed over some choices he had made, the loss of his girlfriend, etc. They were scared...they went to the local Justice of the Peace to try and have him at least temporarily committed since they could not convince him to see a doctor, or take his meds. The JP considers herself a "hardazz".....she declined to do anything. The couple lost their son to suicide within 48 hrs. of begging her for help. If I am angry, I am angry at the JP. The young man was in obvious pain, and just could see no future in his state of mind. Such a waste!

[Louise]

They are suffering a pain no one can see when they commit suicide. They see no way out of the pit...no way. If they could see a way out of their predictament, they would take it. It does no good to get angry at them. I know a couple who could see their son was extremely depressed over some choices he had made, the loss of his girlfriend, etc. They were scared...they went to the local Justice of the Peace to try and have him at least temporarily committed since they could not convince him to see a doctor, or take his meds. The JP considers herself a "hardazz".....she declined to do anything. The couple lost their son to suicide within 48 hrs. of begging her for help. If I am angry, I am angry at the JP. The young man was in obvious pain, and just could see no future in his state of mind. Such a waste!


That is sad, you are right it was a waste. Shame on the jp. Poor parents of the boy. That would have been so awful for them. :1222423: