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NANCY GRACE

Search for Florida 5-Year-Old Missing From Own Bed

Aired February 11, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, Satsuma, Florida. A 5- year-old girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she vanishes into thin air, gone, the back door propped wide open. Tonight, the search by land, by air, by water for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. And just released, the stunning 911 call. We have the call, that call from the father hysterical. He comes home from the night shift to find his little girl gone.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just woke up, and my back door was all open and I can`t find our daughter.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This pastor and these friends and family are afraid this is just the beginning, praying it`s not, but preparing for if it is. Haleigh`s dad, Ronald Cummings, says he was working the night shift early this morning and came home around 3:00 AM to this house on Green (ph) Lane in the Hermit`s (ph) Cove area of Satsuma. He tell us the back door was open and Haleigh was missing from her bed, so he called 911.

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RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER: I just got home from work, my 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now, I`m telling you.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

911 OPERATOR: Listen to me. Listen to me. We`ve got two officers...

CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison, I`m telling you. You can put it on the report, and I don`t care.

911 OPERATOR: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK, can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

CUMMINGS: I don`t (DELETED) know! I was at work!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, we`ve got them coming, OK?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want whoever`s got her to bring her home. That`s all I want is my baby home!

CUMMINGS: I think we got four or five counties` police officers looking for her now, dogs, bloodhounds, K-9s. We can`t find her nowhere. Helicopters. Somebody has her. They have her hidden. I just want my daughter back. That`s it. That`s all I want.

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GRACE: Tonight, every minute counts in the search for Haleigh. Her father is joining us live.

Breaking news tonight in the desperate search for a beautiful 2-year- old Florida girl, Caylee. Six months of searching culminates when skeletal remains found in a heavily wooded area just 15 houses from the Anthonys` confirmed to be Caylee, manner of death homicide, the little girl`s remains completely skeletonized. This after a utility meter reader stumbles on a garbage bag containing a tiny human skeleton, including a skull covered in light-colored hair. The killer duct tapes the child`s mouth, then finishes off by placing a child`s heart-shaped sticker over the duct tape, little Caylee`s tiny skeleton double-bagged like she`s trash.

Bombshell tonight. As we go to air, local WKMG confirms Caylee has been cremated. This is after the Anthonys` lawyer denied it. Why? Little Caylee`s cremation in direct opposition to the tot mom`s wishes, Caylee`s ashes reportedly not even kept at the Anthony home because of safety concerns.

And have fingerprints been identified on duct tape over Caylee`s mouth? Will duct tape fingerprints be the direct link to tot mom? And how can her team defend against fingerprints? This after tot mom chooses not to watch Caylee`s memorial on TV, instead meeting with her lawyer. And what do investigators make of brother Lee`s secret coded message to tot mom from the memorial pulpit? The sheriff orders all jailhouse visits recorded of the tot mom, but is a private jailhouse memorial out of the camera`s eye in the works?

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LEE ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S UNCLE: How are you?

CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: Oh, man. I don`t want to start crying.

LEE ANTHONY: No, I don`t, either.

CMA, I miss you! I love you. I need you to know this. I will never forget the promise that I made to you!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lee Anthony, at yesterday`s public memorial for little Caylee, and at this point, using the initials CMA. And we believe he`s -- well, he could be referring to Casey.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Anthony family attorney, Brad Conway, is telling us for the first time tonight confirming that Caylee was cremated within the last few days. He tells us, quote, "Casey made it clear that she did not want Caylee`s remains to be cremated. This is a decision the family made to protect Caylee. This was a hard choice for them."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some day, I want to go and visit her grave and tell her how much I miss her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re hearing there likely won`t be a marked headstone, like Casey wants, because George and Cindy are afraid someone may vandalize it.

CASEY ANTHONY: Come on! I`m so beyond frustrated with all of this that I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts.

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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. How -- how -- could a 5-year-old Florida girl vanish from her own bed, a bed she was sharing that night with her baby-sitter and her 4-year- old brother?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Haleigh`s dad, Ronald Cummings, says he was working the night shift early Tuesday morning and he came home to find his daughter missing.

CUMMINGS: Gave me a hug and a kiss (INAUDIBLE) told me she loved me, she`d see me when I got home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s a daddy`s girl.

CUMMINGS: She wasn`t there when I got home!

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911 OPERATOR: OK. When did you last see her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just, like -- you know, it was about 10:00 o`clock. She was sleeping (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. How old is your daughter?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s 5.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Haleigh was sleeping in the bedroom with her 2- year-old brother and her dad`s 17-year-old girlfriend, who says she didn`t wake up or hear anything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s not like that baby just disappeared out of thin air.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why is why Putnam County deputies are combing the area. Even though there was no sign of forced entry, investigators believe Haleigh`s disappearance is an abduction.

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911 OPERATOR: All right. You said your back door was wide open?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, with a brick. Like, there was a brick on the floor. Like, when I went to sleep, the door was not like that.

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CUMMINGS: I know somebody took my little girl! I`m sorry! Piece of trash that will be wasted when it`s all over!

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GRACE: How could this little girl just vanish into thin air out of her own bed? The father, working the night shift, comes home to find his baby girl is gone.

I want to go straight to him, everyone. The tip line, 386-329-0808 -- 386-329-386-329-0808. Let me remind you that every minute counts. Every minute that she has been gone counts. One minute could save her life.

With me right now, the father of little Haleigh, Ronald Cummings, is with us. Mr. Cummings, you and your family are in so many prayers across the country right now. Please tell us what happened when you got home from work that night. I believe it was around 3:00 AM.

CUMMINGS: Actually, it was about 3:25, 3:27.

GRACE: OK.

CUMMINGS: And I pulled into the yard, and my girlfriend opened the front door, and I already knew something was wrong because she`s not up at this time. She told me -- I said, What are you doing up at this time? She said, Your back door`s wide open and your daughter`s gone.

GRACE: What is her description -- what scenario took place?

CUMMINGS: She got out of bed and went to use the restroom and came back to find that my daughter was not in bed with her.

GRACE: OK, what time did...

CUMMINGS: And the back door was wide open and she was -- and she was gone.

GRACE: Ronald, what time did she put Haleigh to bed?

CUMMINGS: She puts them to bed every night at 8:00 o`clock.

GRACE: At 8:00 o`clock. When she put...

CUMMINGS: And...

GRACE: When she put her to bed at 8:00 o`clock, did she also put to bed the little 4-year-old boy?

CUMMINGS: Yes, she did.

GRACE: OK. What time did she go to bed?

CUMMINGS: Approximately 10:30, 11:00.

GRACE: At 10:30, 11:00. At that time, was little Haleigh in the bed asleep with the brother?

CUMMINGS: Yes.

GRACE: And they all slept together in the same bed, correct?

CASAREZ: Yes.

GRACE: So sometime between 11:00 PM and 3:30 AM, Haleigh goes missing. Now, did she call 911?

CUMMINGS: No, she did not, not until after I was there. She tried to call me, but I was pulling in the driveway. So I asked her how come she was trying to call me, she needed to call 911. So she immediately called them then.

GRACE: And where does the biological mother live, Ronald? Ronald, where does the mom live? OK, I think somehow -- I think I`ve lost his connection. Liz, see if you can bring Ronald back up. Ronald, where does the mother...

CUMMINGS: I got you. I got you.

GRACE: OK. Good. Everyone, Ronald Cummings is joining us there at the command center in Satsuma, Florida. Mr. Cummings, where does Haleigh`s mother live?

CUMMINGS: In Baker County, in Glenn St. Mary (ph).

GRACE: What is that, about 150 miles away?

CUMMINGS: I would say approximately 90 to 100.

GRACE: Now, have you and your girlfriend both taken a polygraph, right?

CUMMINGS: Yes, I have. Passed it with flying colors. Yes, she has. Passed hers.

GRACE: And you volunteered to do that and you`ve been cooperating with police, right?

CUMMINGS: Yes. Why not? I don`t have anything to hide. I just want my daughter back. Anything that`s going to help them eliminate more people, that`s the best thing.

GRACE: Exactly. Mr. Cummings, you said the door was propped open. Describe to me what you saw when you got home.

CUMMINGS: I came in the house and immediately checked all the bedrooms, the bathroom, everywhere, just to be sure, and walked to the back door, it was wide open. As I walked out the back door, the screen door was propped open with a cinderblock.

GRACE: Everyone, joining me from Satsuma, Florida, is Mr. Ronald Cummings. He was at work as usual when his daughter goes missing. Take a listen to this 911 call.

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911 OPERATOR: What does she look like? How tall is she? Give me some description of her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has, like -- like, long hair, curly, like, curls.

911 OPERATOR: Long curled. What color?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s white.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What color hair?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s got brown hair.

911 OPERATOR: OK. Brown hair?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Oh, my God! (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. How tall is she, about? Or how much does she weigh? Do you know that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Huh?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And if anybody around here that knows me has got my granddaughter, bring her home. Just bring her to my house and drop her off. You know where I live. Just bring her home. Just bring her back to us. She`s my sixth generation grandchild, grandbaby, and we want her back. Just bring her back to us. She`s our heart. She`s my first baby from my first baby. I want her back. Please bring her home. Bring her to somebody. Drop her off somewhere and call 911. Somebody`ll pick her up.

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911 OPERATOR: OK, listen to me. I`m getting this information. I`m not the officer driving out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 OPERATOR: They`re coming out there to handle that situation. I need to gather all her information from you over the phone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 OPERATOR: It has nothing to do with me driving out there. The officers are taking care of that, OK? They`re coming out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 OPERATOR: OK. I`m going to stay on the phone with you, OK...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 OPERATOR: ... until they get there, all right? Tell him we`ve got them coming. He needs to try to calm down a little bit, OK? The officers are going to come out there and do what they can. We can`t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there, OK?

911 OPERATOR: OK, was your back door locked do you know?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. The back door always stays locked.

FATHER: I need somebody (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK, let me speak to her (INAUDIBLE)

CUMMINGS: I just got home from work, my 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now, I`m telling you.

911 OPERATOR: Listen to me. Listen to me. We`ve got two officers...

CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison, I`m telling you. You can put it on the report, and I don`t care.

911 OPERATOR: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK, can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

CUMMINGS: I don`t (DELETED) know! I was at work!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, we`ve got them coming, OK?

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GRACE: A 5-year-old Satsuma, Florida, girl vanishes out of the bed she was sharing with her baby-sitter and her 4-year-old brother. Tonight, the father is with us -- he has just passed a polygraph test -- begging for your help. We are taking your calls live.

Back to Ronald Cummings, the father of 5-year-old Haleigh. Mr. Cummings, was the bedroom door open when they went to sleep?

CUMMINGS: Yes, it was.

GRACE: And what kind of a...

CUMMINGS: Yes, it was.

GRACE: OK. And what kind of a lock do you have on your door, the one that was propped open with a cinder block?

CUMMINGS: It`s just a little plastic lock on a -- just a regular screen door plastic lock.

GRACE: Do you know where the cinderblock came from that was propping the door open?

CUMMINGS: Don`t have a clue. I don`t mess with none of that, so I don`t know. I very rarely am in the back yard at all unless I`m washing my car. So it could have came from around my shed. I`m renting. I don`t know if the previous renters had it or what, but I`ve never seen it, I don`t believe.

GRACE: So to your knowledge, you`ve never seen it.

CUMMINGS: Not that I believe. I mean, I may be mistaken and have seen it before, but I know it wasn`t where it`s at now.

GRACE: Joining me right now, Natisha Lance. She`s standing by there at the Satsuma command center. Natisha, what can you tell me?

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, just as you said, this started late Monday morning. At 3:00 o`clock in the morning, this little girl goes missing. Now, law enforcement has been very heavily involved from the very beginning since the time this little girl went missing. They`ve had helicopters up in the air. They`ve had boats in the water using sonar equipment to look for her. There was a scent that was found that was at the edge of this waterway, which is not too far away from the home.

Now, police have been looking in that waterway. They also have had helicopters up in the air. Eight agencies are involved. A hundred and fifty law enforcement officers were out there the first day. Fifty law enforcement officers are out there today. And these officers are saying that they are pledged to finding this little girl and bringing her home.

GRACE: Back to the father of 5-year-old Haleigh, Ronald Cummings, joining us from the command center. Ronald, the dogs picked up some sort of scent near the water. How far away is that from your home?

CUMMINGS: I don`t know, five or six, eight blocks, somewhere in there. Between five and eight blocks.

GRACE: And has Haleigh ever sleepwalked or left the home in the night before?

CUMMINGS: No way, never. She`s afraid of the dark.

GRACE: And Ronald, I don`t see a 5-year-old little girl picking up a cinderblock and propping the door open. That`s just not going to happen.

CUMMINGS: No.

GRACE: To Joy Purdy standing by there at the command center, reporter with WTLV. Joy, what more can you tell me about her disappearance? I`ve confirmed with Ronald Cummings that he has volunteered and passed a polygraph. What about the girlfriend that was in the bed with the little girl when she goes missing?

JOY PURDY, WTLV: It`s very interesting, Nancy. We have not seen the girlfriend at all today. Police tell us they did interview her thoroughly and that she`s now with family and friends recovering. Look, she`s 17 years old and has been through this traumatic experience. They say that she`s doing fine, under the circumstances.

There are a couple of other interesting points that came out today from the police. One is that -- and you`ll be interested to hear this -- in this five-mile radius of the home, there are 44 registered sex offenders in the area. There`s only 5,300 people in this town of Satsuma, 44 registered sex offenders. So you can imagine police have gone to them or are planning to go to them and find out their whereabouts when little Haleigh disappeared.

Also, you talked about it a little while ago with Ron, the polygraph - - they`re using them on many different people, not just him, other family members, other members of the community. They`re using them at will. The FBI is assisting.

GRACE: And listen, Joy, it ain`t over yet. Remember Jessie Lunsford, not far from there, Homosassa, Florida? She was taken by a registered sex offender. The family came under suspicion, of course, because she was taken from the home in the middle of the night, very similar to this. She was alive for quite a period of time after her abduction.

Out to Marc Klaas, president and founder of Klaas Kids Foundation. Marc, help me.

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Well, the comparisons to the Lunsford case are absolutely eerie and very well made. And one would hope that they have learned the lessons of the Lunsford case. And from everything that I`ve heard, law enforcement has responded rather magnificently in this by bringing in a multi-jurisdictional task force that absolutely knows what they do, by bringing in the various -- the various search teams that are professionally trained, know exactly what they`re doing.

I think the father, Ron -- I think you`re doing a marvelous job by cooperating with law enforcement, by giving them all the information they need, by taking the polygraph and passing it and eliminating yourself. And you understand now that the important thing is to keep eliminating the various possibilities until law enforcement can hone in on exactly that happened.

So, my brother, I would ask you to stay strong and continue to do what you`re doing.

GRACE: With me, a special guest, Sheriff Jeff Hardy with the Putnam County sheriff`s office. Sheriff, thank you for being with us. Sheriff, what`s your plan how to deal with these registered sex offenders in the area? It is a tall order, Sheriff.

SHERIFF JEFF HARDY, PUTNAM COUNTY: Nancy, thank you for letting us be here. It is a tall order. We do have 44 registered sex offenders within a five-air-mile radius, and we`re in the process now of making contact with all of them. We have agents with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the FBI and our investigators are making contact with all of them.

GRACE: And Sheriff, remember, the dirtbag in the Lunsford case was just visiting and he was a sex offender.

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CUMMINGS: Hello?

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, let me talk to your wife. Let me get some information from her.

CUMMINGS: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: Can I talk to her?

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GRACE: A little 5-year-old Florida girl needs your help. She vanishes out of her own bed she was sharing with the baby-sitter and 4- year-old brother, her father at work on the night shift. He`s with us tonight.

Very quickly, back to the sheriff in Putnam County, Sheriff Jeff Hardy. Sheriff, you are even doing an infrared search. Explain.

HARDY: Well, ma`am, we have done infrared searches using aircraft to look at all our wooded areas, our waterways. We`ve actually brought some equipment in to do sonar searches in our river. It`s been pretty extensive.

GRACE: And what did they find on the sonar search?

HARDY That`s the problem, Nancy. We haven`t come up with anything right yet.

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CUMMINGS: Somebody stole my child out of my bed. I come home from work and my child was not there.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, the back door always stays locked.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need somebody to get here now.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, let me to speak to him so.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just got home from work, my 5-year-old daughter is gone.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I need somebody to be here now. I`m telling you.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Listen to me, listen to me. We got two officers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I find whoever has my daughter before you all do I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m telling you. You can put it on recording, I don`t care.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK? Can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) know. I was at work.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir. We got them coming, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir, let me talk to you wife. Let me get some information from her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man. (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Can I talk to her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, listen to me. I need you to answer some questions. Does the door look like it was pried open?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Does it look like you had some sort of someone try to enter into your house?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hold on.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: And another thing, make sure you and your husband don`t touch the door anymore. Don`t mess with the door or anything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, it doesn`t.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: It doesn`t look like it is?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Now listen, tell your husband not to touch anything, make sure.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Because we`re going to try and get a canine out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. She said don`t touch anything because they are bringing a canine out here.

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: I can`t even imagine going home tonight, after this show, and finding my children gone. When Ronald Cummings got home from the night shift, 3:27, 3:30 a.m., his 5-year-old girl Haleigh, there she is on the screen, gone. She was put to bed around 8:00 p.m., everything was fine. She was seen in bed around 11:00 p.m. By 3:30, totally vanished. The 4-year-old brother still asleep in the bed where he had been beside her.

With me is Ronald Cummings, Haleigh`s father.

Mr. Cummings, about the back door, am I correct that you never -- you rarely used the back door that was propped open?

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Yes, you are correct. I`ve used it twice to pull the vacuum cleaner down the handicap ramp and vacuum my car with it. And, yes, I did relock the door when I came in. And I checked to be sure that it is still locked every afternoon before I go to work.

GRACE: I want to go back to the sheriff, Sheriff Jeff Hardy.

Sheriff Hardy, I`m sure that you`ve already canvassed the neighborhood, spoken to the neighbors. What did they have to say?

SHERIFF JEFF HARDY, PUTNAM CO. SHERIFF`S OFFICE, ON LOCATION AT COMMAND CENTER: Nancy, we have canvassed this area considerably, again, by ground, by air and by water. And this community has been extremely helpful in wanting to, of course, to find Haleigh. And as you can see, probably behind me, this community has actually opened up their homes and their doors to help feed the numerous law enforcement personnel that we have out here. And this community has had -- been very responsive to trying to locate her.

GRACE: Well, Sheriff, I`m glad to hear that because I keep thinking about the Jessie Lunsford case and she was being held alive catty cornered from her grandparent`s home and police did a cursory search, didn`t see her, little did they know the registered sex offender on the run had her hidden in the bedroom closet, alive. Alive when the cops came there.

Sheriff Hardy, you stated that dogs had hit near water. Has the child ever been down to the water with adult supervision? What do you make of them hitting near the water?

HARDY: Nancy, the -- we had several bloodhounds that went ahead and did several different tracks. They did track down towards the water area. We don`t know, you know. These bloodhounds can track scent for several days. Their noses are very astute. And so as far as tracking Haleigh all the way down to the water, that -- we`re uncertain about whether or not that Haleigh ended up in the water.

GRACE: You know, that would be a very, very unlikely scenario.

Sergeant Scott Haines -- also joining us from Pensacola, Florida, for her to -- on her own walk out the back door, stick a cinder block to prop it open and go all eight blocks down to the water`s edge. I don`t see it. I don`t think that`s what happened.

SGT. SCOTT HAINES, SHERIFF`S OFFICER, SANTA ROSA COUNTY, FL.: I don`t see it either, especially when the father said his young child is afraid of the dark. No girl is going to leave that secure zone of her home in the middle of the night, walk out that door into darkness without the comfort of the girlfriend that was there with her. She`s just not going to do it. It`s not going to happen.

GRACE: Back to WTLV`s Joy Purdy. Joy, I assume everything has been fingerprinted and processed already. That`s done, right?

JOY PURDY, REPORTER, CNN AFFILIATE WTLV, COVERING STORY: It is. But police tell us they are going to retrace their steps two and three times just to be sure. And it`s very interesting. I`m listening to the conversation that you`re having with the sheriff, a lot of our sources out here are telling us they spent quite a bit of time at the water, that there were divers in the water, boats out there.

I`m very interested to know why so much attention there, number one. Number two, Caylee, according to the family members, told us that -- I`m sorry, Haleigh`s family members told me that she was very afraid of the water because there was a scare a couple of years ago where she fell into a nearby creek. She had to be rescued, resuscitated. So she doesn`t even want to go anywhere near the water.

GRACE: We`re taking your calls live. Out to Linda in Florida, hi, Linda.

LINDA, FROM FLORIDA: Hi there, Nancy. First of all, I want to say your twins are the greatest little gift from God and you`re just a wonderful, wonderful person.

GRACE: Thank you.

LINDA: Thanks for being our champion and our hero. I want to tell you that.

GRACE: I don`t deserve that but the twins are a miracle. They`re a miracle. And just listening to Ronald Cummings on his 911 call is just heart breaking. I can`t imagine going home and finding -- you know, because they`re asleep by the time I get home, finding their cribs empty? I just can`t imagine.

What was your question, dear?

LINDA: My question is, all three of them were in the bed together. It just amazes me to think that -- I know being a mother myself, if someone comes into the room, I sense this. And -- but on the child`s part, if a child is picked up when they are dead asleep, they normally have a reaction. It`s a gasp, a whatever, unless they know the person.

GRACE: To Dr. Caryn Stark, psychologist, I -- understand where Linda is coming from, but I think it would depend on the child. Sometimes when you wake a child up, they sleep straight through it. I have fed John David a bottle, and I think he slept through the whole thing before. He ate a whole bottle asleep.

CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: And there`s no doubt that she could have been sleeping and also perhaps maybe she was even -- you know, he held his hand over her mouth. You never know what really happened in that situation. But she could have been sleeping. It is, however, Nancy, highly unlikely that she just wandered off, not at 5 years old.

GRACE: No. No. Unleash the lawyers, John Burris, high profile lawyer out of San Francisco, Michael Mazzariello, defense attorney and host of "Closing Arguments," WGNY here in New York.

Thank you, gentlemen, for being with us.

John Burris, I know that you always look at the family first. Why? Because statistically they`re usually responsible for disappearances and even deaths, much less, you know, physical injury. But this dad has passed a polygraph. It could be verified where he was. After that Jessie Lunsford case, never say never. It is entirely possible for someone to come into the home, undetected and leave.

JOHN BURRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Obviously, that`s true. And I think you`re right about the dad. I mean everything I hear about him certainly seems very sincere. I don`t want to throw water on any of this, but I will tell you that it`s so improbable that it could have happened that way. You do must rule out his girlfriend. You have to rule that out.

Now if she passed a polygraph, that`s fine. But until she does, it seems to me that the police have to focus in on her and ask her questions to find out -- because this is so difficult to happen, given all that we know, that -- so I just think that you still have to be suspicious of family members for now.

GRACE: I think you`re right. Michael Mazzariello, Maz, I don`t want to project that especially -- I`m always a light sleeper, but especially since I had the twins, I can hear them down the hall when they cough. So it`s hard for me to imagine not noticing a child gets picked up out of the bed and taken out. But it`s not impossible.

MICHAEL MAZZARIELLO, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, HOST OF "CLOSING ARGUMENTS": Absolutely not. We know it`s not impossible. Look at that little girl in Florida, like you mentioned before, Jessica. They came into her house, took her in the middle of the night, it`s not impossible. They ruled out the girlfriend, they`re ruling out -- they ruled out the father. They took tests. Let`s get on with it and look for the.

GRACE: Everyone.

MAZZARIELLO: . perverts and pedophile houses and check them out.

GRACE: Tip line, 386-329-0808. A $25,000 reward from Leonard Padilla, a $1,000 reward from CrimeStoppers.

We`re going to break. We`ll be back, taking your calls live. And as we go to break, a special happy birthday and thank you to a star Orlando cameraman, Ric.

Ric, happy birthday.

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Exclusive: Missing Girl's Mother, Grandmother Speak Out

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," February 11, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Tonight, where is little Haleigh? She's only 5, a little girl, and her whereabouts a mystery, a terrifying mystery. With every tick of the clock, fear intensifies. Now, here's what we know. At 3:00 AM Monday morning, the girlfriend of Haleigh's father notices the girl missing from the bed the two were sharing. About 25 minutes later, Haleigh's father reportedly comes home from work. His girlfriend tells him Haleigh is gone. Then two minutes later, at 3:27 AM, the girlfriend calls 911 and reports Haleigh missing.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just woke up, and our back door was open, and I can't find my daughter.

911 OPERATOR: Can't find what?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My daughter.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What's your address?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Green Lane (ph) (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: What's the numerical?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The numerical? What's that?

911 OPERATOR: The number. Green Lane?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: OK, when did you last see her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just, like -- you know, it was about 10:00 o'clock. She was sleeping (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. How old is your daughter?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's 5.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What was she last seen wearing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: Ma'am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was in her pajamas. We were sleeping.

911 OPERATOR: OK. All right. You said your back door was wide open?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, with a brick. Like, there was a brick on the floor. Like, when I went to sleep, the door was not like that.

911 OPERATOR: OK, the back door -- listen to me. Your back door was wide open? What are you talking about a brick?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: What is the brick?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's on the back door, on the -- on the stairs (INAUDIBLE) like, a walkway?

911 OPERATOR: And there was a brick laying there?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. It's still there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) come on!

911 OPERATOR: We got them coming. Tell him we got them coming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're coming.

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VAN SUSTEREN: Since that 911 call, a massive search has fanned out, looking for the toddler by land, by water and door to door, but no results. Joining us by phone is Putnam County sheriff Jeff Hardy. Good evening, Sheriff. And last night, or at least some point after that 911 call was received and sheriffs reported to the home, I understand some tracks were seen, sir?

SHERIFF JEFF HARDY, PUTNAM COUNTY: Greta, are you talking about the bloodhounds and a little bit of the tracking? Is that what you're referring to?

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, and there was also apparently a footprint in the dirt. I don't know if that was a recent print or whether that was an old one. But what can you tell me about efforts to at least search to see whether or not you can determine where the child may have gone?

HARDY: Greta, we called in a team of bloodhounds, and they -- several different bloodhound units. And they came out. And I'm sure you know these bloodhounds, their noses are very sensitive, and they did follow some tracking, but we don't know exactly how old the tracks could have been. And as far as the footprint that you're talking about, that's news to me. I don't know of any footprint at this point.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I think what it was, was some sort of -- at least, there was one report there was some -- some sort of footprint or step in the dirt that might have been the child's, and nothing more. But we're hearing lots of different information. And obviously, Sheriff, you're the one on the story, so I'll defer to you on that. All right, in terms of the child missing, have there been any tips that the child has been spotted in the last 24 hours?

HARDY: No, ma'am, we don't have any tips, but we are following up on all leads that we're receiving. In fact, we're in the middle of conducting several interviews as we speak right now, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: One of -- the person who first reported the child missing was the girlfriend to the father. Her name is Misty. She was -- she apparently had gone -- she had last seen the child about 10:00 PM the night before and that the child was sleeping in the same bed with her? Is that correct?

HARDY: That's what she's telling us, Greta, yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was any -- was the -- was there another child in the bed, as well? Because I know there's another child in the home.

HARDY: No, there was a brother in the home, a younger brother.

VAN SUSTEREN: But he wasn't in the same bed with the girlfriend and the missing child?

HARDY: No, ma'am. He was -- I believe he was in another room, another bed or another -- another bedding area. I don't believe he was on the same bed, no.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So according to least what I hear, and correct me if I'm wrong, she wakes up or something about 3:00 o'clock, notices the child missing, but a phone call is not made for 27 minutes to 911. Is that correct?

HARDY: Well, I can verify the fact that our 911 call did come in at 3:27 AM. As far as exactly the timeline of when she woke up and discovered the child missing, I don't know. She's saying it is some time after 3:00.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is the girlfriend a person of interest to you at this point?

HARDY: Greta, we're not ruling out anybody. You know, we have teams of law enforcement officers out here right now. We've continued our grounds searches by air and by water. We still have dive teams. We had them out here today. Again, the FBI's out here assisting us with other -- just numerous local and state officials and officers from across northeast Florida. So we're not ruling anybody out at this point.

VAN SUSTEREN: Sheriff, thank you, sir. And good luck, sir.

HARDY: And thank you for your time.

VAN SUSTEREN: Joining us live from Florida, Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, and the toddler's grandmother, Marie Griffis. Crystal, I know you that you're terrible distressed and worried this evening. Do you -- is there any likelihood in your mind that this child simply just got up and walked off?

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOTHER: No, there is not. She would not do that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, when was the last time you saw your daughter?

SHEFFIELD: Two weeks ago.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have you spoken to her in the last two weeks?

SHEFFIELD: No, I have not.

VAN SUSTEREN: When you saw her, did she indicate or say to you anything to suggest there were problems in the home? I know that she's living with her father, or staying with her father and her father's girlfriend. Did she say there were any problems in the home?

SHEFFIELD: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, when was the last time that you saw your grandchild?

MARIE GRIFFIS, GRANDMOTHER: It was two weeks ago when they got their visitation to come stay with us (INAUDIBLE) We pick them up Friday night 6:00 o'clock and we return them Sunday at 6:00 o'clock.

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, do you live in the area or do you live out of state?

GRIFFIS: We live in Florida, but it's Baker County, Glenn St. Mary (ph), Florida. We live about an hour and 45 minutes from here.

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, do you know of any problems in that home?

GRIFFIS: In the past, Haleigh and Junior have told us that, you know, they've been hit and stuff like that, but up to this point, everything was fine.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, have you spoken to the father of your child or his girlfriend in the last 24 hours?

SHEFFIELD: I spoke to him yesterday. I have not spoken to his girlfriend.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say to you?

SHEFFIELD: He just said that -- he told me he was sorry and that if he would have been home from work that it would have never happened.

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, what do you think has happened? I know that there are a lot of theories, a lot of sex offenders in the area. What are you sort of -- you know, where is your suspicion tonight, Marie?

GRIFFIS: My suspicions is why is it two children was in the bed with this 17-year-old girl, and somebody comes into the home and picks a child up that's laying right next to you and you don't know where she went. You get up and go to the bathroom and come back and she's not there. Well, was she there when she got up and went to the bathroom? Why don't we have that information? What happened? It don't take but 15, 20 seconds to go to the bathroom, and it's right there in the bedroom, also. So I wonder what role Misty plays in this.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have you ever met her, Marie?

GRIFFIS: I have never officially been introduced to her. I saw her in Ronald's car one weekend when we took Haleigh and Junior back to their dad on a Sunday, and she was sitting in the car. And I don't know who she is, never spoke to her. All I know is Haleigh and Junior told me that they liked her, that she was nice to them.

GRIFFIS: Crystal, do you know the girlfriend at all? I mean, have you ever, like, had any conversations with her in any depth? Do you know what kind of person she is, anything about her?

SHEFFIELD: No, I don't. I've talked to her. She seemed like a really nice person, but I've never sat down and had a conversation with her. And the kids told me that...

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, I don't mean to...

SHEFFIELD: ... They loved her.

VAN SUSTEREN: How long, Crystal, has she been in the children's lives?

SHEFFIELD: Probably four to six months? I'm not really sure.

VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, I don't want to -- you know, because I'm asking questions about the girlfriend (INAUDIBLE) you know, think that she's the only person I'm curious about. I mean, obviously, everybody -- we're curious about everybody tonight. Do you know anything, Marie, about any neighbors at all, people who live nearby that have shown any particular interest to this child at all, Marie, do you know?

GRIFFIS: The only thing we know about any neighbors is there were some kids that lived next door that Haleigh and Junior played with, and they were seen out playing in the yard around 5:00 o'clock yesterday -- or Monday evening. I guess it was Monday evening. I can't even remember anymore. The days are just running together now.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, the father of your child was at work when, apparently, Haleigh disappeared. What kind of work does he do, Crystal?

SHEFFIELD: I'm not sure. All I know is he runs a crane.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know, Marie, why he was out until 3:00 o'clock in the morning? I mean, what kind of work would have him out that late, or that early, depending on how you characterize it?

GRIFFIS: He -- we was ere told he worked from 3:00 to 3:00, so I supposed it's a 12-hour shift. And he's a crane operator working for a place called PDM Bridge (ph).

VAN SUSTEREN: Do either of you know if the girlfriend has a job or does any kind of work at all?

SHEFFIELD: No.

GRIFFIS: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, Marie, thank you both very much. And you know, I certainly hope we can find this child. And there's so much publicity being cast on it that maybe someone knows something and will call in maybe we'll have good news on this soon. Thank you both.

SHEFFIELD: Thank you.

GRIFFIS: Yes, thank you very much, too.

VAN SUSTEREN: Up next, more breaking news coverage on the search for little Haleigh. The toddler's father will be here to go "On the Record."

Plus: Do you like pork? Not to eat, but as part of the massive stimulus bill. Well, guess what? A powerful senator says you don't care about pork. What? Is that true? Or is he drinking? We'll see.

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VAN SUSTEREN: We continue our breaking news coverage on the disappearance of little Haleigh Cummings. She was reported missing 3:30 AM yesterday morning. Now, here's what we know, is that the father's girlfriend apparently last saw the child about 10:00 PM on Monday night when she went to bed and the child was in the same bed. About 3:00 o'clock in the morning, the girlfriend says that she got up to go to the bathroom, noticed the child was missing. About 27 minutes later, at 3:27 AM, the father in the meantime had come home from work, according to the parents -- according -- has -- was at work and he called 911, and the child has been missing -- or reported missing at that time.

Now, Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, joins us live, along with Crystal Cummings, Ronald's sister. Good evening to both of you. And Ronald, I know how distressed you are because everyone has told me. And the only thing I can hope is that we can at least shed more light on it and get more information so that people call in with tips.

So let me -- let's -- let me try to ask you some questions about it. What time did you arrive home, Ronald, on Tuesday morning?

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER: Approximately 3:30.

VAN SUSTEREN: And when you walked in the door -- take me through every step. You walked in the door. Was your girlfriend up at that point?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Yes. I never walked through the door. I pulled in the yard. She -- the door was open. She was standing there and waiting on me. I asked her what she was still doing up, and she then told me that the back -- she got up to use the restroom, and the back door was wide open and that my daughter was missing.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was the child -- was your daughter missing when she got up to use the restroom, or between the time she got up to use the restroom and returned to bed? Did she tell you that?

RONALD CUMMINGS: I'm not sure. I never asked.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, when was the last time...

RONALD CUMMINGS: I'm just worried about where she's at.

VAN SUSTEREN: No, I understand that. Crystal, when was the last time you saw this child?

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS, AUNT: A couple weeks ago.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, have you ever noticed the child wanting to wander off or any people wanting -- in the neighborhood, unusual people paying close attention to her that you thought was peculiar?

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS: No. She wouldn't wander off.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, do you agree that she would not just wander off?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely. I know my daughter like the back of my hand. I've raised her since the day she was 2 years old by myself. I know for a fact she would not wander off alone during in the daylight, much less at night. She's afraid of the dark.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, has anyone ever wandered into your home, any strangers into your home?

RONALD CUMMINGS: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, always in every investigation, the person that people focus on are the people who last saw the child, so obviously, your girlfriend has got -- you know, there's a lot of focus on her. Is there any reason that you have any suspicion that your girlfriend knows more than she's saying, Ronald?

RONALD CUMMINGS: No, there is not. And I would like for a lot of the false allegations to be discarded. There's been a lot of false allegations made by the mother and her mother. And I just don't -- I don't appreciate it. It's not a custody battle. This here is about finding a 5-year-old missing child, my daughter.

VAN SUSTEREN: It's unusual for a father to have custody. Why do you -- did you win custody in a battle for this child?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely, I did.

VAN SUSTEREN: What happened? Explain -- explain -- you know -- you know, usually, the mother gets the custody. Why did the court give you custody of your child?

RONALD CUMMINGS: The only way I can honestly answer you that without being rude to others is they chose the better parent and the one who could provide better for the two children.

VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, what's your -- what's your -- what do you think in your heart and your mind tonight as to where this child is and what happened? What makes the most sense to you?

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS: I don't -- really can't tell you what happened to her. I mean, I think someone took her. I just want them to bring her back.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, let me ask you the same question. What's your theory tonight? And I realize this is a very fluid situation, but what's your -- what do you think is the trail we should go down to look for this child? What do you think happened?

RONALD CUMMINGS: Somebody broke into my house and stole my daughter. I know because I specifically locked those doors before I left for work, and my child cannot unlock the deadbolt on that door because I have got the hole cut in a specific place where you have to force the door shut to get it to lock all the way. And I know it was locked all the way. I checked it myself. And she does not open the door for strangers or wander alone in the dark, nothing like that. So somebody broke into my home and stole my child.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was the door broken when you came home? Was that lock broken when you came home?

RONALD CUMMINGS: No. Obviously, a crowbar or something was used. I'm not sure. You'll have to speak more with the detectives about what was used or how it was done. I'm not sure.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, Crystal, thank you both very much, and I very much hope that we're going to have good news and that child will be found, your daughter, Ronald, very soon and in good health. Thank you both.

CRYSTAL CUMMINGS: Thank you.

RONALD CUMMINGS: Yes, thank you.

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Missing Haleigh's Dad and His Girlfriend Address Polygraph Test Questions 'On the Record'

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," February 12, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Now we take you live to Florida, where the intense search for Haleigh Cummings continues. Haleigh's father Ronald and his girlfriend Misty are both here.

Here's what we know: At 3:00 a.m. Monday morning, Misty says she found Haleigh missing from the bed they were sharing. At about 3:25 Ronald returns home from work.

Two few minutes later, at 3:27 a.m., Misty calls 911 and reports Haleigh missing. Since then, nothing. The toddler is gone.

Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's father, joins us live, along with his girlfriend Misty Croslin. Welcome to both of you, and, Ronald, is there any update in the last 24 hours in the search for your daughter?

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH'S FATHER: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have there been any sightings and tips coming in, Ronald, anything at all like that?

CUMMINGS: Plenty of tips. Most of them are bogus. The law enforcement agencies are doing everything they can. I think they got approximately 50 horses coming in. They will start doing a ground search with horses and dogs.

They are doing everything they can. Federal agents, numerous different county sheriffs are out here. They're really trying to help us.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, what is Haleigh like?

MISTY CROSLIN, AT HOME WHEN HALEIGH DISAPPEARED: She is a real big girl. She is fun to be around. She is always happy. She's real smart, intelligent.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, is she the type that would walk off with a stranger?

CROSLIN: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, is she the type that would wander off with a stranger at all, or is she a shy child?

CUMMINGS: Absolutely not. She is definitely shy. She would never walk off with a stranger for no reason. Besides, it was dark, and she is afraid of the dark.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, the other night, Monday night, you saw her about 10:00, Is that correct?

CROSLIN: What was that?

VAN SUSTEREN: You last saw Haleigh at about 10:00 Monday night when she was in bed? Is that right, Misty?

CROSLIN: Yes, ma'am.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was anything going on with her? Did she fall asleep easily? Was she at all anxious, getting up and leaving the bed?

CROSLIN: No. She had school, so I put her to bed about 8:00 because that is her bedtime so she can get up and go to school, so she's not tired.

VAN SUSTEREN: Were you in the same bed with Haleigh, Misty?

CROSLIN: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: Were you in the same room?

CROSLIN: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: So, tell me what happened. Tell me, did you hear anything between the time you saw her it 10:00 and the time that you woke up and notice she was missing? Did you hear any noises?

CROSLIN: No, ma'am. I did not hear anything.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have you been drinking or anything so you would be in a heavy, deep sleep all that night?

CROSLIN: No.

VAN SUSTEREN: So, tell me what happened. You got up to use the bathroom, is that right?

CROSLIN: Yes. I got up to use the bathroom. I did not make it to the bathroom. I walked into the living room and noticed the kitchen light was on. And I saw the back door open. And when I saw the back door open, I ran back into the bedroom, and that's when I noticed she was gone.

VAN SUSTEREN: And so, Ronald, you came home about 3:25 a.m. from work?

CUMMINGS: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you come in the front door or the back door of that double wide, Ronald?

CUMMINGS: I came in the front door. I pulled into the driveway. She was standing at the front door, and I wanted to know what she was doing up, first, at that time of night. Usually, she is in bed asleep.

And she told me that she just got up to use the bathroom, and that she saw that Haleigh was not in her bed. She went to find her, and the back door was wide open, and she was nowhere to be found. She was gone.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, had you been the one to block that back door?

CROSLIN: No, I did not lock the back door because the back door is always locked. We really do not use the back door.

CUMMINGS: Absolutely.

VAN SUSTEREN: What kind of lock is on that back door? Is it a deadbolt? Do you need a key, or is there a know on the inside? How do you work that back door lock?

CUMMINGS: There is a lock on the knob on the inside, and it has a deadbolt also. The deadbolt is very hard to get unlocked once you get it locked. You have to push in hard on the door, and a child would never get that unlocked.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty--go ahead. I'm sorry, Ronald.

CUMMINGS: I do keep it locked. I do check it every afternoon before I leave for work. It is always locked, always.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, do you ever use that doo yourself, go in and out that door?

CROSLIN: I mean, once in awhile I will take the garbage out through the back door, or leave through the back door and take a vacuum and vacuum the car out. But that is the only time we use the back door.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, did anyone come over to the house that evening while Ronald was at work? Any friends come over?

CROSLIN: No. My older brother had come over with my nephews, and the AC guy.

VAN SUSTEREN: What time did they leave?

CROSLIN: They got there about 5:00. And they stayed for about 30 minutes until about 5:30, 5:45.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ronald, I understand that there does not appear to be any forced entry into the home in that back door. So how do you think it got open?

CUMMINGS: I honestly don't have any clue. I don't have any clue. Somebody, maybe a locksmith, picklock artist, I do not know. But it was definitely locked, and somebody came in through it. So I cannot explain it.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, let me ask you this same question. Misty, how do you think that door got open?

CROSLIN: Someone had either picked the lock, they would have had to pick the lock. That is the only way that anybody could have gotten in our back door is if they picked the lock.

VAN SUSTEREN: In terms of where you were sleeping, Misty, and Haleigh was sleeping, who was closer to the back door?

CROSLIN: Haleigh would have probably been closer to the back door. She was on the side of the wall closest to the kitchen.

VAN SUSTEREN: How far was Haleigh physically sleeping from you?

CUMMINGS: Probably not three or four inches away. She was in front of the TV, not that far away at all.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you say three or four inches away?

CROSLIN: I mean, I am not sure. It was not that far away.

VAN SUSTEREN: Can you hold up your hands and show how far away she was sleeping?

CROSLIN: Probably from both of these chairs put together from my bed.

VAN SUSTEREN: About as far as Ronald is from you?

CROSLIN: Yes.

CUMMINGS: No.

CROSLIN: No?

CUMMINGS: I know where the beds were at. They are about four feet apart from the edge of the bed she was in to the edge of the bed Haleigh was in.

CROSLIN: I was not measuring or anything like that, so--

VAN SUSTEREN: I know you both took a polygraph today. Did they say you were deceptive or not on the polygraph. Did they tell you how your results were? How were yours, Ronald?

CUMMINGS: Absolutely, they did. And it was not today that we took a polygraph. We took the polygraph yesterday. And, yes, we both did pass.

VAN SUSTEREN: Misty, what did they say about your results?

CROSLIN: You mean that I passed?

VAN SUSTEREN: Did they use the word "pass," or did they say there was no sign of deception?

CUMMINGS: They told me that I passed.

CROSLIN: They really did not say much to me.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, we are hopeful that putting the spotlight on this, people will call in tips if they know anything at all about this child, because I know that you both want her back very badly.

Ronald, Misty, thank you, and let's hope we get some good news soon. Thank you both very much.

CUMMINGS: Thank you.

CROSLIN: Thank you.

VAN SUSTEREN: We have more information about little Haleigh. George Anthony, the grandfather of murdered Caylee Anthony, has something to say about this new child's disappearance. Why is George Anthony speaking out? You're going to hear that next.

Plus, "The Best of the Rest." Britney Spears is back in the headlines. The headlines involve an angry ex-boyfriend, a car, and an alleged hit and run.

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VAN SUSTEREN: At this hour there remains grave concern about five-year-old Haleigh Cummings. George Anthony, the grandfather of murdered toddler Caylee Anthony, has some advice for the family of the missing girl.

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GEORGE ANTHONY: They need to be in support of each other. They need to be there no matter what. They need to reach out.

And things get tough. There are tough days and hours and minutes. To know that they can reach out to me, to Josh, to my wife Cindy, to my son, other families that understand.

This is not about me. This is about Haleigh Anne Marie Cummings, age five, that needs to be found and brought home to this beautiful family.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VAN SUSTEREN: Joining us live is WOFL reporter Cheryl Getuiza. Cheryl, thank you for joining us.

And Cheryl, I want to just first get this lie-detector, polygraph thing settled. Do you know who has taken a polygraph and whether or not anyone has been found to be deceptive or not, with the understanding that they're not perfect tests?

CHERYL GETUIZA, REPORTER, WOFL: Greta, investigators told us so far two people have taken the lie-detector test, and that is the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, and his girlfriend, Misty Croslin. As to the results of the test, they would not let us know, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: What is the working theory of the police? Is it that someone invaded that home? Is there any sign that there is any forced entry, or not?

GETUIZA: Greta, they are now calling this an "abduction." They are going by what Misty Croslin told them, is that she got to go pee, and when she went back into the bedroom to see the kids, Haleigh was missing and the back door was open. And it was propped open by a cinderblock. So they're testing that cinderblock right now. They also took a whole bunch of other evidence. As to what evidence they took, they won't tell us. They told us, though, it is now being analyzed at a lab.

VAN SUSTEREN: I understand there are a number of registered sex offenders in the area they are looking at.

GETUIZA: Greta, 44 registered sex offenders within a five mile radius in this family's neighborhood. They said they have talked to a majority of those sex offenders. So far, none of them are suspects.

And, really, right now they have no suspect information. They're just trying to gather some information from the family. They interviewed them day in and day out, and still nothing.

VAN SUSTEREN: What is that community like? Do the people tend to know each other in the immediate area of their home?

GETUIZA: Greta, this is a very small community. It is very tight knit.

They have been having vigils every night since Haleigh disappeared. This is the third night in a row. These are neighbors and strangers coming together to help this young family.

It is an older retirement community, but Haleigh's father and his girlfriend with the two kids have lived in the home for some time.

VAN SUSTEREN: And in terms of neighbors, has anybody seen anybody stalking or doing anything peculiar? Has the child been out in the yard in the weeks past and anyone has been hanging out? Anything weird like that?

GETUIZA: Nothing to note, Greta, but the investigators have gone door to door to every single home in this mobile park, talking to every single person who is staying in those homes.

And no one has any information. Nothing suspicious has come onto the radar for investigators. But, again, they will continue talking to these neighbors to see if anything has come up.

VAN SUSTEREN: We only have 20 seconds left. There's a body of water close by, right--a pond or something?

GETUIZA: Yes, it is the St. Johns River.

Near the family's home, there is one mobile home next to them. And on the other side of the family's home is a very extensive wooded area. And just past that, 500 yards, is the St. Johns River. For the past three days, divers have gone into that river and done grid searches, and so far, they have found nothing, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: How about relatives of Misty who were over there that afternoon? Have they looked at them?

GETUIZA: Relatives--Misty's parents have not come out and said anything. Ronald's parents were here this afternoon, and they are here supporting Ronald and Misty.

But we did hear from Misty, and you talked to her earlier.

VAN SUSTEREN: I am sorry. I have got to go, Cheryl. Thank you.

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, Satsuma, Florida. A 5- year-old little girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she vanishes into thin air, gone, the kitchen light on, the back door propped wide open. The father comes home from the night shift to find not a single trace of little Haleigh. How could a 5-year-old girl vanish from her own bed, a bed she apparently was sharing that night with her baby-sitter and 4-year-old brother?

The girlfriend/babysitter said she`s taken not one but two polygraphs and tells us she passed. Bloodhounds pick up the scent near a nearby river, but an intense sonar scan turns up nothing. The house turned upside down with police fingerprinting, searching and processing the scene. Tonight, the search by land, by air, by water. Where is 5-year-old Haleigh?

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: What`s her date of birth?

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER: Y`all are (DELETED) playing games, man! I`m going to (DELETED) kill somebody!

911 OPERATOR: OK, tell him we understand. We need to get her date of birth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s her date of birth?

CUMMINGS: (DELETED) her birthday! We need to find her! (DELETED) her date of birth!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A frantic search is under way right now for Haleigh Cummings. She was last seen Monday night with her 2-year-old brother in her bedroom.

CUMMINGS: I don`t know what happened to my daughter, came up missing out of my house in the middle of the night. Besides that, no, I don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Detectives don`t know, either. Today they officially ruled Haleigh Cummings`s disappearance an abduction. Police believe someone snatched the 5-year-old from her Satsuma home. They say, at this point, everyone`s a suspect.

CUMMINGS: Yes, I have taken a polygraph. Yes, did I pass it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t know where she is or who has her! I just want her home!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Authorities say the back door was wide open, propped open with a cinderblock, but they don`t know whether it was left unlocked.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I put her to bed about 8:00 o`clock. I woke up and she was gone, and the back door was wide open! That`s the last I seen her is when I put her to bed!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators have ruled out the possibility the child may have wandered off in the middle of the night because she`s afraid of the dark.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you`ve done something with, her tell us where she`s at, if she`s OK, something. We just -- I want my daughter back.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. How could a 5-year-old Florida girl just vanish from her own bed, a bed she was sharing that night with her baby-sitter and 4-year-old brother? But has that story changed in just 24 hours? Tonight, where is 5-year-old Haleigh?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s been no sign of Haleigh Cummings in three days. And as you can imagine, emotions are running really high in that family.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

CUMMINGS: I just got home from work, my 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now, I`m telling you.

911 OPERATOR: Listen to me. Listen to me. We`ve got two officers...

CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison, I`m telling you.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Florida police and the FBI launched a massive search from both the ground and the air. Detectives say they found no evidence that Haleigh wandered away from her dad`s mobile home.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK, can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

CUMMINGS: I don`t (DELETED) know! I was at work!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, we`ve got them coming, OK?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have not stopped our search. We had several different bloodhounds that were brought to the area with the helicopter and the ground forces.

CUMMINGS: I just want my daughter home safe.

We want her back. That`s all we want. We don`t want revenge. I just want my daughter back. That`s it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Out to Joy Purdy with WTLV at the command center. Also joining us tonight, the mother of the missing 5-year-old girl, Crystal Sheffield. Joy, what`s the latest? Has the story shifted?

JOY PURDY, WTLV: This is very interesting, Nancy. We`ll talk about the search in just a moment, which has been called off for tonight. It`s going to continue tomorrow into a much bigger event.

But you were talking about the father, the father of Haleigh Cummings, his girlfriend, she was the last one to see the little girl. She told us today on camera just a few hours ago that no, Haleigh was not in the bed with her. Haleigh was actually sleeping in her own bed when she disappeared. Whether or not that bed is situated in the same room as the father`s girlfriend, we don`t know. But we have learned -- she has told us that they weren`t sleeping in the same bed, so that opens up all kinds of new questions here.

GRACE: Joy, it certainly does. Let`s take a listen to what she had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I put her to bed about 8:00 o`clock, and I woke up and she was gone and the back door was wide open! That was the last time I seen her, was when I put her to bed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you all in the same bed?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. She was in her bed in front of the TV, and me and junior were in my bed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That is contrary to what we were told last night. We were told last night the 5-year-old girl was in the bed with the girlfriend/baby-sitter and the 4-year-old brother. Now, if they were in the same room, fine, I understand that. But even a slight change in story is highly significant.

With me right now, a very special guest, the mother of missing Haleigh. Crystal Sheffield is joining us there at the Satsuma command center. Ms. Sheffield, thank you for being with us.

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOTHER: You`re welcome.

GRACE: Ms. Sheffield, where were you at the time little Haleigh went missing?

SHEFFIELD: I was in Baker County, at my house.

GRACE: How did you learn she was gone?

SHEFFIELD: Ronald`s mother, Teresa Nieves (ph), called me at 3:49 AM in the morning and told me that Haleigh was gone.

GRACE: And what did you do?

SHEFFIELD: At first, I thought it was a prank, kind of. And then she was, like, The police are there, and I heard them in the background and then it hit me that it was not a prank.

GRACE: OK. Now, what time did you say they called you?

SHEFFIELD: It was 3:49 AM.

GRACE: And who called you?

SHEFFIELD: Teresa Nieves, Ronald`s mother.

GRACE: When was the last time you saw Haleigh?

SHEFFIELD: Two weeks ago.

GRACE: Was there any problem? Were there any tensions in the home that you knew of?

SHEFFIELD: No.

GRACE: When they called to tell you little Haleigh was missing, Ms. Sheffield, did they have a theory about what had happened to her?

SHEFFIELD: They just said that someone come in there and took her, is what they told me.

GRACE: Ms. Sheffield, were you -- with me, everyone, is little Haleigh`s mother. Crystal Sheffield is joining us. She lives many miles away from the little girl but sees her on a regular basis. Ms. Sheffield, when you were first told about the circumstances of Haleigh`s disappearance, were you told she was asleep in the bed with the girlfriend/baby-sitter and the little brother?

SHEFFIELD: Yes, I was. I was told they was all three in the same bed.

GRACE: You`re sure?

SHEFFIELD: I`m sure.

GRACE: Is there any doubt in your mind that they represented they were all in the same bed together?

SHEFFIELD: That`s what they said, that -- I was told they was all three in the same bed.

GRACE: And now what have you learned?

SHEFFIELD: I`ve heard that Junior was in another room, and it was just her and Haleigh in the bed. And now I`m hearing that they were both in the other room and she was in the bed by herself. Haleigh and Junior was in their own room.

GRACE: OK. Hold on, Ms. Sheffield. Rosy (ph), can you play me back that sound we just heard from the girlfriend? OK, Ms. Sheffield, please go through that with me one more time. First you thought they were all three in the bed together sleeping, waiting on the father to get home. He was at work. Then you were told what?

SHEFFIELD: At first, I was told they was all three in the same bed.

GRACE: Right.

SHEFFIELD: Then it was Junior was in the kids` room in his bed, and it was Haleigh and Misty in their bed, in the big bed.

GRACE: Yes?

SHEFFIELD: And then I heard that Haleigh and Junior were both in their room, in their own room, not Misty`s room.

GRACE: Ms. Sheffield, I know this may sound crazy to you, but let me ask you about this change in story. When you heard the second version, that Junior was in the kids` room and Haleigh and Misty were together, who told you that?

SHEFFIELD: Where did I hear it? I don`t remember where I heard it. My mind`s just...

GRACE: All right. When you heard that Haleigh and Junior were both in the children`s room, who told you that?

SHEFFIELD: Who told me that?

MARIE GRIFFIS, MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: I don`t remember that. That`s the first story that we heard.

GRACE: Everybody, also, you`re hearing the voice of the maternal grandmother of Haleigh. That`s Marie Griffis. She`s also with us there at the command center, everyone converging there at Satsuma, Florida, to find this little girl.

Let`s unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight, Eleanor Dixon out of Atlanta, Peter Odom, veteran defense attorney out of Atlanta, and Gwen Lindsay-Jackson, defense attorney out of New York.

But first to Mark Lunsford joining us out of Homosassa, Florida, the father of little Jessie Lunsford, who disappeared under extremely similar circumstances. Mark, what do you make of it?

MARK LUNSFORD, FATHER OF MURDERED JESSICA: Well, I mean, to start off with, I mean, I`d have to say with the work that I`ve been involved with and the things that I`ve done, you know, there`s going to be a lot of things flying through the air...

GRACE: Right.

LUNSFORD: ... miscommunications (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: So this may be nothing. This may just be a blip on the screen.

LUNSFORD: It could be. But you bring up a good point by bringing it up. And what the family should do is to rely on your victim advocate. They will answer any question, any doubts, any rumors flying. These are the people to get the correct answers.

GRACE: You know, everybody, Mark Lunsford, the father of Jessie Lunsford -- and he is now with Survivingparentscoalition.org.

Back to Eleanor, Peter, and Gwen Lindsay-Jackson. Eleanor, he`s got a point. This could either be an extremely significant change in the story - - because when you`re talking about a missing 5-year-old, where she was the last time she was seen alive is highly probative, and if a story changes even subtly, that casts doubt on who`s telling the story. But on the other hand, I went back tonight before I came to air and re-read all of the wires and all of the notes, and what she said at the beginning, the baby- sitter/girlfriend was, I was sleeping next to her. Did that mean in the next room? Did that mean in the next bed?

Maybe Mark Lunsford is right that this is just a miscommunication. What do you think?

ELEANOR DIXON, PROSECUTOR: I think that could be a possibility, that it`s a miscommunication, and in being so upset and frantic for this missing child, she could have said that. But I think the police are also keeping things very close to the vest.

GRACE: Peter?

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: A migrating story can be a sign of guilt, but you`ve got to make sure that it really is inconsistent, as you suggested.

GRACE: Gwen?

GWEN LINDSAY-JACKSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think that it could be considered an excited utterance. I mean, certainly, she knew where she was when this child was asleep. It`s not a hard question.

GRACE: I`ve got a problem with it.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got up because I had to use the bathroom, but I didn`t make it to the bathroom. I seen the kitchen light on, and I walked in the kitchen and the back door`s wide open. And I didn`t notice about Haleigh then, until I seen the back door open. Then I (INAUDIBLE) and she`s gone! And that`s all I know!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s no longer any reason to believe that the child simply wandered outside, so we are treating this absolutely like an abduction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) any one of us and our children. Anyone. Nobody knows whether it`s a psycho or sicko. Nobody knows. Anyone. Anyone. You don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All the world`s a suspect right now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I put her to bed around 8:00 o`clock. And I woke up and she was gone and the back door was wide open. The last time I seen her was when I put her to bed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you all in the same bed?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. She was in her bed in front of the TV, and me and Junior were in my bed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Where is 5-year-old little Haleigh? Out to Michelle Sigona with "America`s Most Wanted" why did the girlfriend/baby-sitter take two polys?

MICHELLE SIGONA, "AMERICA`S MOST WANTED": Well, at this point, investigators, you know, wanted to re-question and question her again. And she has been cooperating, from what they tell me. She`s not a suspect at this time, Nancy. Neither is the father of the children.

So I have spoken to the father. I just got off the phone with him about an hour ago, and from what he tells me, is that there were evidently two beds inside of one of the rooms, and from what he says, is that Haleigh was in the smaller bed, and that his son, who they call Junior, who`s 3 years old -- he`ll be 4 on Sunday -- was actually in the bed with his girlfriend.

GRACE: OK. That can clarify some of the inconsistencies, I believe.

Out to the lines. Anne in New Hampshire. Hi, Anne.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. First of all, our prayers are with the family. And this is so scary because it is so like the Jessica Lunsford case, where the father worked a third shift, you know, and in the trailer park. And the fact that there were 44 registered sex offenders in the area -- my first question is, I want to know if, like in the Jessica Lunsford case, they went around in the immediate area where the people lived and checked all the trailers, although Jessica, they believe, was in Couey`s trailer`s closet and they missed her and she was probably still alive. Have they done this really thorough check of all of the trailers in the area where the child lives?

GRACE: To Joy Purdy with WTLV. What do you know, Joy?

PURDY: Well, we talked with the sheriff about that. He was asked that specifically today, the sheriff of the Putnam County sheriff`s office. He said yes, they are checking with every sex offender. They are going into homes and checking. They`re very aware of what happened in that case, so they don`t want that to happen again. So they are tracing their steps again and again and again, and even checking other people`s homes, residents who are allowing them to come in two, three times. So they`re being very thorough.

GRACE: Michelle Sigona, do you know any more?

SIGONA: I can tell you that all 44 sex offenders within a five-mile radius, Nancy, have all been located and questioned. And from what the lead detective on this case told me about three hours ago was that, at this point, all of them have checked out from the time that Haleigh was last seen up until the time she allegedly disappeared around 3:30 in the morning.

Now, that`s not saying that they may not go back and check those particular sex offenders again and also other people in the area. Right now, they`re focussing a lot on the ground searches and also by air, by ground, in the water. They`re bringing in cadaver dogs from Georgia. They have five in from Georgia right now and are expecting 10 more by tomorrow morning. So these investigators are going on day four tomorrow, Nancy, and they`re just not giving up.

GRACE: Last night, the father, Ronald Cummings, was with us for our whole program, and I found him to be extremely sincere.

Out to Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst and author of "Dealbreakers." I know you have studied his interviews. What do you think, Bethany?

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: He was sincere, distraught. He immediately offered to take a polygraph. I believe that he is a victim and not a perpetrator in this situation. The 17-year-old -- I have some questions about her. Not to victimize the victim here, but why was she a caretaker of these little children? Was she a willing caretaker? How did she feel about them? Were there other people in and out of the home? Yes, you can pick up a 5-year-old and lug them from one place to another and they will stay asleep. Yes, because she was not the bio mom, it would make sense that she didn`t wake up.

But what doesn`t make sense is that whoever came into this home anticipated that she wouldn`t wake up. So what kind of activity was there in and out of the house? Was there drug activity, I would wonder?

And then finally, those 44 sex offenders -- sex offenders offend on average for 17 years before they`re caught. So these are known sex offenders. What about people in the community who are sex offenders but who have not come to the attention of law enforcement? There are just so many questions in this situation.

GRACE: Back to the mother of 5-year-old little Haleigh. Crystal, Ms. Sheffield, what are the police theories right now? What are they telling you?

SHEFFIELD: They haven`t really told us nothing. Like, they`re just - - they just said they`re going to keep searching. They haven`t found anything or -- so...

GRACE: To Marie Griffis, Ms. Griffis, what do you make of the story about the back door being propped open? And I believe it`s been verified that Ronald Cummings was, in fact, at work.

GRIFFIS: Well, the back door being propped open -- who is going to take time to prop open a back door if you`re going to abduct a child? It don`t make sense.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: OK, was your back door locked, do you know?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, the back door always stays locked.

CUMMINGS: I need somebody to get here now!

911 OPERATOR: OK, let me speak to (INAUDIBLE).

CUMMINGS: I just got home from work. My 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now. I`m telling you...

911 OPERATOR: Listen to me. Listen to me. We`ve got two officers...

CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison, I`m telling you. You can put it on the report, and I don`t care.

911 OPERATOR: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK, can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

CUMMINGS: I don`t (DELETED) know! I was at work!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, we`ve got them coming, OK?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: What`s her date of birth?

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER: Y`all are (DELETED) playing games, man! I`m going to (DELETED) kill somebody!

911 OPERATOR: OK, tell him we understand. We need to get her date of birth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s her date of birth?

CUMMINGS: (DELETED) her birthday! We need to find her! (DELETED) her date of birth!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: The officers are going to come out there and do what they can. We can`t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there, OK?

CUMMINGS: Give me my (DELETED) phone! I got better people to talk to than a (DELETED) that ain`t coming!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: That is the father, hysterical. His daughter is gone when he gets home from the night shift.

Out to the lines. To Adrena in West Virginia. Hi, dear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, I was wondering if, like, the abductor might watch them for, like, weeks, and got their, like, schedule (INAUDIBLE) What if he propped open the door and then, like, he knew that, like, the girl -- he knocked on the door and she might have thought it was her dad and, like, he -- she opened the door, and he, like, snatched her. He thought it would be quicker if he propped open the door.

GRACE: That`s an entirely possible scenario. I want to go back to Haleigh`s grandmother, Marie Griffis, tonight joining us along with the mother of little Haleigh, Crystal Sheffield.

Ms. Griffis, you were mentioning, who would take the time to prop open the door during a kidnapping. What do you mean by that?

GRIFFIS: It would take -- anybody that was going to take a child out of a house, it seems like they would want to get in and out as quick as possible. So who would want to take the time to prop open a door?

GRACE: And -- and...

GRIFFIS: They would want to open it and go through...

GRACE: And turn on the kitchen light.

GRIFFIS: And get the child and leave.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GRIFFIS: It`s never safe to say that someone in the family or an associate of the family is not a suspect. However, all the world`s a suspect right now. We have not excluded the world because we`re focusing on a couple of family members or...

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

911 DISPATCHER: OK, was your, was your back door locked, do you know?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, the back door always stays locked.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need somebody to get here now.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, let me to speak to him so.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just got home from work, my 5-year-old daughter is gone.

911 DISPATCHER: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I need somebody to be here now. I`m telling you.

911 DISPATCHER: Listen to me, listen to me. We got two officers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I find whoever has my daughter before you all do I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m telling you. You can put it on recording, I don`t care.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK? Can you give me any -- what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) know. I was at work.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir. We got them coming, OK?

What`s her date of birth?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You all are (EXPLETIVE DELETED) playing games, man, I`m going to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) kill somebody.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. Tell him we understand. We need to get her date of birth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s her date of birth?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) we need to find her. What`s her date of birth?

911 DISPATCHER: Tell him we got them coming. He needs to try to calm down a little bit, OK? The officers are going to come out there and do what they. We can`t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Uh-huh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) phone. I got better people to talk to than a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mother that ain`t coming.

911 DISPATCHER: 911, what`s your emergency?

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Continued NANCY GRACE for February 12, 2009

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just woke up and our back door was open and we can`t find our daughter.

911 DISPATCHER: You can`t find what?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our daughter.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. What`s your address?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Green Lane. (INAUDIBLE).

911 DISPATCHER: What`s the numerical?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Numerical, what`s that?

911 DISPATCHER: The number, Green Lane?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. When did you last see her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just like, you know, it was about 10:00, (INAUDIBLE), she was sleeping.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. How old is your daughter?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s 5.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. What was she last seen wearing? Ma`am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was in her pajamas. We were sleeping.

911 DISPATCHER: What, what does she look like? How tall is she? Give me some description on her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has like, like long hair, curly, like curls.

911 DISPATCHER: Long curled, what color?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s white.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, what color hair? She`s got brown hair?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Oh my god.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. How tall is she about? Or how much does she weigh, do you know that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Huh?

911 DISPATCHER: About how tall or how much does she weigh?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like four something like, I don`t know, like she`s not that tall.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. Tell your husband we got them coming, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 DISPATCHER: How much does she weigh, do you know?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Huh?

911 DISPATCHER: How much does she weigh?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Um, like, 40, 50 pounds, 60 pounds.

911 DISPATCHER: Forty to sixty pounds?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello?

911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir, let me talk to you wife. Let me get some information from her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man. (INAUDIBLE)

911 DISPATCHER: OK. Can I talk to her?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, listen to me. I need you to answer some questions. Does the door look like it was pried open?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I guess.

911 DISPATCHER: Does it look like -- does it look like you had some sort of someone try to enter into your house?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hold on.

911 DISPATCHER: And another thing, make sure you and your husband don`t touch the door anymore. Don`t mess with the door or anything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, it doesn`t.

911 DISPATCHER: It doesn`t look like it is?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. Now listen, tell your husband not touch anything, make sure.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

911 DISPATCHER: Because we`re going to try and get a canine out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. She said don`t touch anything because they are bringing a canine out here.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, listen to me. I`m getting this information. I`m not the officer driving out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 DISPATCHER: They`re coming out there to handle that situation. I need to gather all information from you over the phone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 DISPATCHER: It has nothing to do with me driving out there. The officers are taking care of that, OK? They`re coming out there, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 DISPATCHER: OK. I`m going t stay on the phone with you, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

911 DISPATCHER: Until they get there, OK? Tell him we got them coming. He needs to try to calm down a little bit, OK? The officers are going to come out there and do what they can. We can`t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there, OK?

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: That`s enough to make me leave the anchor desk and run, not walk, run home to check on the twins. The father gets off of the night shift, his little girl, 5 years old, gone out of the bed where she was sleeping.

Joining me, Joy Purdy and Michelle Sigona there at the command center, Crystal Sheffield, Marie Griffis, the mother and grandmother of the little girl.

To Joy Purdy, who was the last person outside the family who saw her and when?

PURDY: Oh, goodness, outside the family we would have to imagine it was some of her schoolmates because it was early Tuesday morning that she disappeared and she does attend school here, but everyone has been focusing on the family because the father`s girlfriend was the last one to see her.

GRACE: Right. And her story is she was last seen around 10:00 with the girlfriend goes to bed, but who can verify the last time she was seen by somebody other than girlfriend, last seen alive? Was it that day when she got out of school at 3:00?

Did anybody else see her after 3 p.m., I guess, when she gets out of school? Do we have any idea? Did she go to school on Monday? I mean do we know that she went to school that day? What do we know, Joy?

PURDY: We don`t know about anything that happened that Monday. Everything has started from that Tuesday morning. You`re going have to ask the sheriff about that.

GRACE: Yes, and see.

PURDY: But we.

GRACE: Where I`m going with this is we have her word placing the girl alive and well at 10 p.m. I want to find out the last person to have seen her.

We are taking your calls live. To Sherry in Connecticut, hi, Sherry.

SHERRY, FROM CONNECTICUT: Hi, Nancy. How are you?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

SHERRY: Good. I just want to start out by saying really quick that I just absolutely love you to death. I watch your show faithfully. I`m the mother of a 3-year-old and this really touches home.

My question is, real quick is, why is young Haleigh living with the father and not the mother? Does anybody know that? Is there some sort of family dispute going on?

GRACE: Well, I know that the two have been apart. With me is the mother.

How often, Crystal Sheffield, do you see her and why did she end up being with him?

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOM OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I see them every two weeks. I pick them up on Friday at 6:00 and return them on Sunday at 6:00.

When me and Ronald split up I had the children with me, and I didn`t have the heart to keep them from him, and I let him come get them and he was supposed to return them to me and he never did, and then he went to the courthouse and filed for temporary custody, and the first court date was sent out to an address in Jacksonville, and it was a bogus address.

I never lived there, so I missed that court date, and then when we went for the custody hearing, they just -- I feel like they just blew me off, but they said they gave him custody because it was the best interest for the children.

GRACE: Are you saying the court blew you off?

SHEFFIELD: I just felt like they was all on his side.

GRACE: Do you know if she was in school on Monday?

SHEFFIELD: I have no idea. I know she`s missed a bunch of days because he told me that if she -- I don`t remember what day it was, but he called and was talking -- I was supposed to pick them up and he said I didn`t want to take her out of school because if she missed any more school that they was going to put him in jail.

GRACE: Why was she missing so much school?

SHEFFIELD: I don`t know.

GRACE: Was she sick?

SHEFFIELD: She may have been, but honestly, I don`t know.

GRACE: Well, I`ll be right back. We`re taking your calls.

SHEFFIELD: She does get sick a lot.

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. As we go to break we ask for your prayers for Georgia friend of the show in the hospital, Jimmy Stokes.

Jimmy, please stay strong and get well.

And tonight, at your request, photos of the twins. They`ll be on the Web tonight. Here is John David in mommy`s closet. Lucy making mommy try on dress up shoes with her gym pants and Lucy trying them on herself. These are their pajamas. Yes, they just got these and they still don`t know how to go forward, just backwards.

There`s John David at music class. There`s his instructor Jess singing. Here they are playing on the floor. Oh, at Barnes & Noble, their favorite place in the world. Back in mommy`s closet with a flip-flop and a tennis shoe.

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SHEFFIELD: I just want whoever`s got her to bring her home. That`s all I want is my baby home.

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I just want my daughter home safe. If you have my daughter and you`re watching this, drop her off somewhere safe, call 911, call the local authorities wherever you drop her off. Bring her back anonymous. Give her to someone else to bring back. However she`s back, we want her back safe. If you`ve done something with her, tell us where she`s at, if she`s OK. Something, we just -- I want my daughter back. That`s it.

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GRACE: To former NYPD detective, Michael Sapraicone -- Michael, I can understand confusion if two beds were in one bedroom, and she said we were all sleeping together and she was right beside me. I can understand if there were two beds like that. But according to the mother and grandmother one story was they were in another room, both the children were in another room.

MICHAEL SAPRAICONE, FMR. NYPD DETECTIVE PRESIDENT OF SQUAD SECURITY INC.: Well, I understand your point about the beds in the bedroom, Nancy. But I`m really more concerned over the door. There`s more issues with the door here. I mean.

GRACE: Explain.

SAPRAICONE: You have this -- husband, the boyfriend goes to work every night. He works until 2:00, 3:00 in the morning, so this girl closes this door and locks that door because she`s the caretaker there, for this 3-year-old and this 5-year-old. How does that just so happen to be open that evening? And how does a predator just happen to come to that one particular trailer and find that door open?

I mean is there any indication that somebody tried other doors in the trail park? No, we don`t have that. So he just happens to wander into this one trailer, open that door and sure enough there`s a 5-year-old girl he can take out of that bedroom. That doesn`t add up.

I`d like to look at the inner circle a little bit. And then I`d like to look at the nature under the friends. Something`s going on in that house. As you said before, we don`t know what happens to her after she gets home from school on Monday. We do know the father picked her up at school at 3:00 or 3:30 on Monday. But then we don`t know what happened? What`s the timeline from 3:00 until 10:00 that night when this girl Misty says she put her to bed at 8:00?

GRACE: You know, that`s an interesting point.

Michelle Sigona with "America`s Most Wanted," aren`t police saying that they`re taking the timeline back 30 days now?

SIGONA: Yes, police are definitely taking their time. They`re going back through the timeline. They also have closed off the entire mobile home, Nancy, at this time just in case they need to go back in and secure more evidence. They have collected that cinder block that was allegedly propped -- that propped up the door open and a few other things that have been sent to the crime lab in Jacksonville right now.

And they do have a forensic rush on those materials at this time and if they need to go back into the home to pull more things out at least they have it there readily accessible. So they are looking at a timeline. They are looking at people.

GRACE: Where is the family staying?

SIGONA: Right now -- evidently according to the dad as of just a couple of hours ago, he`s staying in a tent nearby. He described it to me as something, I guess, it`s just sort of a tent out in the open that he and the girlfriend are staying at and they`re not staying at the home.

GRACE: To the Dr. Zhongxue Hua, he`s the Union County, New Jersey medical examiner. Dr. Hua, thank you for being with us.

Dr. Hua, I want to talk to you about the cinder block that apparently had the backdoor propped open. What kind of forensic evidence can you get from a cement block?

DR. ZHONGXUE HUA, UNION CO., N.J. MEDICAL EXAMINER: The first thing is any fingerprints down there, is there any DNA down there? I mean lots of things can be tested and obviously have to be examined very carefully and don`t forget -- I mean one thing is use a cinder block to prop the door open, (INAUDIBLE), you have to touch the door to open the door. I mean there are lots of things you can look at at this point.

GRACE: I want to go back to the mother of little Haleigh and the maternal grandmother. Crystal Sheffield, Marie Griffis is joining us tonight.

Crystal, you have a problem with the door as well. What are your thoughts?

SHEFFIELD: Yes. I just -- it`s just -- if the door was locked like they said it was.

GRIFFIS: By Ronald.

SHEFFIELD: Ronald said he locked that door when he left for work and it`s supposedly high up enough to where Haleigh could not reach it, I just don`t understand how somebody just got in there and nothing was broke on the door.

GRACE: Was it a padlock or a.

SHEFFIELD: Someone had to have a key.

GRACE: A dead bolt or a padlock?

SHEFFIELD: A dead bolt. A dead bolt.

GRACE: To.

SHEFFIELD: It was a dead bolt.

GRACE: To Joy Purdy with WTLV, was there sign of forced entry?

PURDY: That`s another interesting story because we`re getting conflicting reports. We`ve heard, at first, that there was a sign of forced entry. The police here tell us there was no sign of forced entry. So they`re still interviewing, trying to figure out what exactly is going on here.

GRACE: Joy, have you looked at the door even at a distance?

PURDY: We did look at a door. You can`t see -- you do have quite a bit of access. You can go right up to the home even though there`s police crime tape against it.

GRACE: Right.

PURDY: You can see three sides of the home, but you can`t see the fourth side on the back.

GRACE: Got it.

PURDY: You can see a door. You can see a screen door.

GRACE: To.

PURDY: So we don`t know if that`s the actual door.

GRACE: Back to Crystal and Marie. Crystal, have you been in the home since you`ve been there on Monday?

SHEFFIELD: Yes, I have not. No, I have not.

GRACE: You have not? Marie, have you?

SHEFFIELD: No.

GRACE: Do you have any.

GRIFFIS: No, I haven`t been...

GRACE: Do you have any idea what kind of lock was on the backdoor?

GRIFFIS: No, we don`t. All we know is Ronald said there was a dead bolt on the backdoor on the inside that was up high enough that Haleigh couldn`t.

GRACE: OK.

GRIFFIS: . get to it and that he locked and secured that door before he went to work.

GRACE: Dead bolt. All right, back to the lawyers, Eleanor Dixon, Peter Odom, Gwen Lindsay-Jackson.

Eleanor, what do you make of it?

DIXON: Well, the door is important, but you know what else is important is the cell phone records, Nancy. Nobody has mentioned that. Did the mom call anyone that night? Did dad -- I mean the girlfriend, did the dad call anyone at night? Those could tell you a lot as well.

GRACE: What about it, Peter?

ODOM: Nancy, I think that the propped open door adds credence to Misty`s story. Anyone who is abducting this child would want to get out of the house quickly while carrying a child and they would want to prop open that door. So I`m falling on Misty`s side on -- that fact.

GRACE: And to Gwen Lindsay-Jackson, I know that there are inconsistencies right now with the girlfriend`s story. But you got to remember not far from this spot, almost the exact same scenario, Jesse Lunsford was taken out of the grandparent`s home. They were asleep feet away. She was taken out of her bed. Nobody heard a word.

LINDSAY-JACKSON: Yes, that`s certainly the case. But in here my gut feeling is we need to look a little more closely at this 17-year-old. I don`t like the fact that her statement apparently is changing. I sort of think that when she said originally that they were in the bed together, that`s what she said and that`s what we`re hearing, that she was under so much stress that she was making that excited utterance, and that`s what happened.

Now whether or not she left that child unattended after that husband or that boyfriend left and she`s afraid to tell the truth, that`s another story. We know that the child probably couldn`t have unlocked the door? Did she leave and then leave the house unsecure? Was there something else that happened in the home? Did somebody else come? Did she let somebody else into the house? Was there a fight? What happened?

I think they need to squeeze the 17-year-old, Nancy. I`m troubled with her.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are offering opportunities to make free wide open statements, free-form statements. And we`re offering polygraphs to everybody, to give them the opportunity to eliminate themselves as suspects. All the world are suspects right now.

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GRACE: Now, last night when I spoke to the father, Ronald Cummings, he told me there was just a plastic lock on the door that it would not have been hard to break into.

To Danielle in Ohio, hi, Danielle.

DANIELLE, FROM OHIO: Hi, Nancy. First of all.

GRACE: What`s your question, dear?

DANIELLE: First of all, I want to tell you you`re great. Love the twins. I would like to know if the police are using any type of heat seeking technology on helicopters to search the woods.

GRACE: I believe they are using infrared. What about it, Joy Purdy?

PURDY: They definitely are. We`ve seen the helicopter from the floor.

GRACE: OK.

PURDY: . of Fisher Wildlife Commission all day. They have infrared on it.

GRACE: To Courtney in Colorado, hi, Courtney.

COURTNEY, FROM COLORADO: Hi, I just wanted to tell you that we love your show. We watch it all the time.

GRACE: Thank you.

COURTNEY: Well, the question on my mind is she`s 17 years old.

GRACE: Right.

COURTNEY: The dad is at work.

GRACE: Right.

COURTNEY: Isn`t it possible that she could have friends or, you know, someone else come over during that time and leave the door propped for them to come in and out without disturbing the kids while sleeping?

GRACE: OK. First of all, thank you for watching faithfully and for calling in.

What about that scenario, Michelle Sigona?

SIGONA: Here`s what we do know, Nancy. At this point, from what she has told investigators, no one else was in the home at the time. Whether that door was propped open after the father left for work at 4:00 p.m., he did not get home until 3:30 in the morning, it`s hard to tell. She did not -- the girlfriend did not go to bed until 10:00 at night. She alleged that the children went to bed around 8:00 p.m. at night. So did she have someone there between 10:00 p.m. and 3:30 a.m.? It`s possible but we`re not too sure.

GRACE: Well, we haven`t heard that scenario from any of the law enforcement.

Everyone, I want to give you a tip line, 386-329-0808. There`s $35,000 reward.

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ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Caylee Confirmed Cremated; Bounty Hunter Claims Casey`s Fingerprints Found on Caylee; Grandfather Speaks about Missing Haleigh

Aired February 12, 2009 - 19:00:00 ET

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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, more Caylee Anthony case craziness. First, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla makes a startling claim.

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: I heard this morning that there were fingerprints and that the prints are Casey`s.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Will this really be the incriminating evidence that ties Casey to the murder of her little girl? We`ll investigate.

Then a Caylee Anthony memorial in a park? That`s what Anthony family representatives plan to do to honor little Caylee.

And the family now confirms they`ve cremated Caylee and stored her remains at a secret location, fearful they would be stolen from the home. Has it really come to that?

And finally, an answer to the CMA mystery.

LEE ANTHONY, UNCLE OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: CMA, I miss you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Who was Casey`s brother talking to? Who is CMA? We`ll have the answer.

Plus, a desperate family plea for the return of little Haleigh Cummings.

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH`S MOTHER: All I want is my baby home.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Meanwhile, investigators are operating on the assumption that Haleigh was abducted and are not excluding anyone as a suspect. The massive search effort expands as teams of search parties descend on central Florida, including some of the very same people involved in Caylee`s search. We`ll have the latest.

And octo-mom, about to octo-pop as the controversy surrounding the single mother of 14 continues to balloon out of control. You`ve got to see this.

ISSUES starts now.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, breaking developments in the new Florida missing child case the whole nation is watching. Five-year-old Haleigh Cummings vanished from her bed early Tuesday. Her anguished grandfather will join me in just moments.







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ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Caylee Confirmed Cremated; Bounty Hunter Claims Casey`s Fingerprints Found on Caylee; Grandfather Speaks about Missing Haleigh

Aired February 12, 2009 - 19:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, more Caylee Anthony case craziness. First, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla makes a startling claim.

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: I heard this morning that there were fingerprints and that the prints are Casey`s.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Will this really be the incriminating evidence that ties Casey to the murder of her little girl? We`ll investigate.

Then a Caylee Anthony memorial in a park? That`s what Anthony family representatives plan to do to honor little Caylee.

And the family now confirms they`ve cremated Caylee and stored her remains at a secret location, fearful they would be stolen from the home. Has it really come to that?

And finally, an answer to the CMA mystery.

LEE ANTHONY, UNCLE OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: CMA, I miss you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Who was Casey`s brother talking to? Who is CMA? We`ll have the answer.

Plus, a desperate family plea for the return of little Haleigh Cummings.

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH`S MOTHER: All I want is my baby home.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Meanwhile, investigators are operating on the assumption that Haleigh was abducted and are not excluding anyone as a suspect. The massive search effort expands as teams of search parties descend on central Florida, including some of the very same people involved in Caylee`s search. We`ll have the latest.

And octo-mom, about to octo-pop as the controversy surrounding the single mother of 14 continues to balloon out of control. You`ve got to see this.

ISSUES starts now.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, breaking developments in the new Florida missing child case the whole nation is watching. Five-year-old Haleigh Cummings vanished from her bed early Tuesday. Her anguished grandfather will join me in just moments.

But first, a look inside the agonizing decision the Anthony family has made regarding little Caylee`s final resting place. After a flurry of conflicting reports, Anthony family attorney Brad Conway now confirms that Caylee`s remains have been cremated.

The shocker: Caylee`s ashes are not at the family home. They fear somebody might steal them. Has it really come to this? Apparently, it has.

Conway also reveals that George and Cindy`s decision to defy their daughter`s wish that Caylee be buried and cremate her instead was not taken lightly. They were concerned that a headstone might be a target for vandals. What a shocking commentary on how ugly this case has gotten. Conway added the family plans to build a Caylee Anthony memorial in a park to honor her memory.

Plus, the question surrounding Lee Anthony`s use of the initials "CMA" at Caylee`s memorial are finally answered. The family attorney says Lee was talking to all of them.

Also tonight, remember the duct tape that was reportedly wrapped around little Caylee`s head. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla dropped this shocker on HLN`s "NANCY GRACE" last night.

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PADILLA: I heard this morning that there were fingerprints and that the prints are Casey`s.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stunning new evidence, but how will it impact Casey`s murder trial?

And Casey`s attorney, Jose Baez, has reportedly dumped the mysterious three-headed Todd Black and hired a new media rep, Marti MacKenzie. She is known for repping high-profile defendants, like former astronaut Lisa Nowak. She, of course, is the love triangle astronaut who drove cross country wearing a diaper. You cannot make this stuff up.

Let`s go to my expert panel. Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor and law professor at New England School of Law; Drew Findling, Atlanta criminal defense attorney; and Leslie Snadowsky, investigative reporter.

Leslie, what is the very latest?

LESLIE SNADOWSKY, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: George and Cindy Anthony`s attorney, Brad Conway, has come out and saying that Caylee Anthony`s remains have been cremated, but no, they`re not at the Anthony home. The Anthonys are afraid someone is actually going to bust in and steal them.

And this type of mentality is leading them to different decisions when it comes to what are they going to do with them eventually. You would think that maybe they would do a regular burial site with a head stone. But no, they`re afraid that might be vandalized. So they`re thinking on a grander scale, maybe a public memorial at a public park.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it sounds like a good idea. Now, since little Caylee`s remains were found, one of the key forensic questions has been were Casey`s fingerprints on that duct tape that bound Caylee`s head? In fact, it was over the child`s mouth, and it had a heart sticker on it. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla said this on "NANCY GRACE" last night.

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NANCY GRACE, HOST, "NANCY GRACE": Leonard, what do you know, if anything, about sources reporting fingerprints were lifted off the duct tape?

PADILLA: I heard this morning that there were fingerprints and that the prints are Casey`s.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Wendy Murphy, I have with me right now some duct tape. Let`s see. We`ve got it right here.

It was so hard, first of all, to get the duct tape off, to peel it off. This was after a couple of minutes. But would it come down to whether it`s on the outside -- if it`s on the outside, there could be an argument, "Well, this was taken from the home by the mysterious Zanny with the nanny or whatever." And along with all the other things, the bedding and yada yada. And that Casey had touched it previously.

But if it were on the inside, OK, especially if it was way on the inside, wouldn`t it be hard to argue that that was something that was put there previously?

WENDY MURPHY, LAW PROFESSOR: Yes, but in this case, the defense has made crazier arguments. It`s a harder argument to make. But, you know, the chance that a jury with a brain would ever believe that her fingerprint just happened to be on the inside of the super sticky part of the tape and it was because she touched it when she was doing lawn work months earlier and it, oops, just happened to also be the same piece of tape that landed around the face of her dead child. Oh, reasonable doubt, I don`t think so.

Look, I`m not shocked to find out that her fingerprint is on the tape. The child`s decomposed body parts were in her trunk.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, yes. It obviously would be the coupe de gras to all the other forensic evidence that has been gathered against her that the prosecutors plan to present when this case goes to trial, whenever that might be. And you just hit on one of them, the smell of death in the car, the hair showing signs of decomposition that reportedly matched the hair taken from the skull. The list is long.

But let me ask you this question, Drew Findling. This is what Leonard Padilla is saying. Now, we know that 300-plus pages of discovery were released just a couple weeks ago. It wasn`t in there. The remains were found in mid-December.

Wouldn`t this have gone through the system and been released to the defense`s discovery and then, by extension, given to the public, this information, at this point, or not?

DREW FINDLING, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Thank you for that question, Jane, because that is the central issue here. You know, this defense team has been fighting for discovery, fighting for the opportunity to conduct scientific testing. The law is very, very specific and strict about that.

If this took place, and if these results are in, and somehow this profiteering bounty hunter has access to that information before the defense, who hasn`t even conducted their own test, you could be assured that the court is going to come in, and they are going to be sanctions flying out of that judge`s chambers like crazy.

MURPHY: This just drives me crazy, that Drew would say, "The defense is going to have lots to say about this." It`s terribly unfair that the truth about the fingerprints might come out when the defense, from one shill to another, from Cindy on every damn talk show she could get on, to make us go chasing these fake Caylee sightings. So the defense can lie with impunity.

FINDLING: Cindy is not a defense attorney.

MURPHY: I don`t care.

FINDLING: And Cindy is a mother without constitutional rights.

MURPHY: The defense has filled the public with nonsense.

FINDLING: Casey has constitutional rights, and her rights are evoked through her attorney.

MURPHY: The defense has no constitutional rights. Nonsense in the court of public opinion. And then forget about it when the truth comes out.

FINDLING: We don`t care about the court of public opinion.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Calm down, everybody.

FINDLING: We don`t care about the court of public opinion. We care about...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let me jump in with a question. And you can just ask yes or no -- answer yes or no. Wendy, if in fact it is true that Casey Anthony`s fingerprints are on the duct tape, is it game, set, match for the prosecution?

MURPHY: No, because the defense is entitled to come up with an explanation that they think is innocent. I don`t think it will be a plausible one, but they`re entitled to make that...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But Drew, I don`t understand how they could come up with an innocent explanation. You could argue that the mystery nanny, which prosecutors say doesn`t exist, took the bedding and took things, the dolls, all the other stuff that was found, like the toy horse, because that`s what a nanny would have.

But duct tape? I mean, a nanny doesn`t walk around with duct tape from the Anthony home.

FINDLING: Well, Jane, as you know better than any of us, from your coverage of O.J. Simpson, there`s a thing called residual doubt. And when you have people make drastic mistakes, like if this were -- is her fingerprints, leaking it to this bounty hunter before the defense team, that`s the kind of thing that kills investigations and kills prosecutions.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`ve got to get to this. This is important. Cindy Anthony organized the memorial service for Caylee. And remember, Lee Anthony raised some eyebrow with this. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

L. ANTHONY: CMA, each day, you can continue to teach me about life and about the way it should be lived. Each day you give me the ability to be strong or to be weak. It`s been so long since I`ve been able to see you, or to hug you, or to tell you how much you mean to me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Wendy Murphy, Brad Conway is now saying that Lee was referring to all of them. Casey Marie Anthony, Caylee Marie Anthony, and there are claims that we haven`t been able to clarify that Cindy`s initials are also CMA.

MURPHY: We know it isn`t Country Music Awards, I`ll tell you that. You know, frankly, I know it`s a sad thing, but as I said on your show last week, this was at least in part just an offensive infomercial for the defense. Between him sobbing around CMA and Cindy...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what? I have to disagree.

MURPHY: I know. I know, Jane. Let me say something.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: This was a beautiful memorial. I cried when I watched it.

MURPHY: There were times -- there were times when the defense exploited a beautiful memorial. When Cindy said, "I know how much you loved your daughter, Casey..."

FINDLING: She`s not a defense attorney. She`s a mother! She`s not the defense attorney.

MURPHY: That was a defense P.R. move.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I think that -- I agree with Drew. She`s a mother, and a mother has a right to say whatever she wants about a daughter.

MURPHY: She should not have said that out of respect for her grandchild. Shame on her.

FINDLING: You should have stopped at Country Music Awards. That`s my opinion.

MURPHY: Thanks.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`ll leave it at that. That`s a good way to wrap it up.

Leslie, Drew, thank you so much. Wendy, stay right there.

Don`t forget, "Nancy Grace" up immediately following this program at 8 p.m. She will have the very latest on the Caylee Anthony case.

And right here on ISSUES we will update the tragic story of another little Florida girl gone missing. The desperate search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. I want to hear your thoughts on this mysterious case. What happened there? 1-887-JVM-SAYS. That`s 1-877-586-7297 for your questions or theories on the mysterious disappearance of little Haleigh.

Caylee Anthony`s grandfather, George, went to the search area to show support for Haleigh Cummings. Just some eerie similarities in these two cases. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE ANTHONY, GRANDFATHER OF CAYLEE: I`m here in support of them. I`m here to bring Haleigh home. Haleigh Marie Cummings.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Haleigh Ann Marie.

ANTHONY: I`m sorry. I apologize for that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, GIRLFRIEND OF HALEIGH`S FATHER: Three o`clock in the morning, I got up and -- I got up because I had to use the bathroom, but I didn`t make it to the bathroom. I seen the kitchen light on, and I walked in the kitchen, and the back door was wide open. And I didn`t notice about Haleigh then until I seen the back door open. And then I go in her room and she`s gone. And that`s all I know.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: The desperate search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared from her bed in the wee hours of Tuesday morning, has now entered its third day. No sign of the adorable little girl known to her family as Doodle Bug.

Haleigh`s Florida home is just 70 miles away from where Caylee Anthony lived, and now her family is getting support from Caylee`s grandfather, George. I`ll have much more on that in just a moment.

Meantime, Haleigh`s father has taken and reportedly passed a polygraph. Just hours ago, he made a passionate appeal to the person who might have abducted her.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: Just bring her back, anonymous, give her to someone else to bring back. However she gets back, we want her back safe. If you`ve done something with her, tell us where she`s at, if she`s OK, something. We just -- I want my daughter back. That`s it. That`s all -- that`s I want. I want my daughter back. I`m not out for revenge.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to hear from you. Give me a call: 1-877-JVM- SAYS. That`s 1-877-586-7297.

Also, if you have any information, and I mean, any information on the whereabouts of little Haleigh, please call the Putnam County, Florida, sheriff`s office.

First, I am joined by Haleigh`s grandfather, Johnny Sheffield.

Thank you so much, sir, for being here. I know this has to be very, very, very difficult for you, and I really appreciate you taking the time. And hopefully, we can help.

Johnny, it`s been more than 60 hours since little Haleigh disappeared. Authorities now believe she did not wander off. They believe she was abducted. What are your possible theories about what happened to your precious granddaughter?

JOHNNY SHEFFIELD, GRANDFATHER OF HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I don`t know, really. I have to go by what the law enforcement`s told me. They said they`ve done searches. They haven`t found her. I know the father said there are signs of forced entry.

The sheriff told me that there was no signs of forced entry, and I heard the girlfriend`s 911 tape. She said there was no signs of forced entry. And I know the father locked the dead bolt, he said, personally. And I know in order to get through a dead bolt, you`ve got to break the door frame. You`re not just going to wedge it open and open the door.

But I`m not doubting the father didn`t lock the dead bolt. I`m just wondering how somebody got in through a dead bolt and took my granddaughter and just vanished when somebody`s supposed to be there watching her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And with apparently no signs of forced entry. I think you make a very, very good point.

Now, I want to bring this into the equation. The story we`re hearing about Haleigh being abducted in the middle of the night without anybody hearing her or the predator has been slammed by some skeptics. Some are raising eyebrows at Misty, the girlfriend who was sleeping with the two children the time little Haleigh disappeared from her bed.

Listen to Misty, the teenage girlfriend of Haleigh`s father.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CROSLIN: I just want her home, just have her come home safe. Just drop her off somewhere. I just want her to come home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She meant a lot to you, too?

CROSLIN: Yes. A real lot. I loved that little girl like she was my own.

(END VIDE O CLIP)

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: But to the skeptics, I would remind them to remember the terrible Jessica Lunsford tragedy, also in Florida. In 2005, the beautiful child you`re looking at there, Jessica, was sleeping peacefully in her bed when she was abducted by John Couey, a convicted sex offender, who later confessed to murdering her.

Couey lived in a trailer just 150 yards away. He kept Jessica locked in a closet for two or three days. Tragically, when cops first canvassed that trailer, looking for Jessica, it is theorized that that little girl might have still been alive in that closet.

The reason I`m mentioning that, and it`s an upsetting story, and I apologize for that, Johnny, but it has a point. The point is that so many people are like, how could he come in, take a child and leave without anybody waking up? It happened in 2005.

Admittedly, no one was in the bed with little Jessica Lunsford, but she was taken from a house in Florida and removed while she was asleep and abducted. So it does happen.

Your thoughts on all of that, sir?

SHEFFIELD: Well, I know my granddaughter. And I know that when she wakes up, she goes to screaming and crying. She`s going to her mama or her daddy, or she`s at our house, she`s coming to somebody`s door to let us know that she`s up. And if she happens to wake up in the morning, she goes to the couch and watches TV, if she -- if her father`s not up. But usually her father is up by the time the baby`s up.

I find it hard to believe that somebody could just go in there and grab Haleigh, because Haleigh was a solid little girl. She was a close -- she was hard for me to pick up. And for her to -- somebody to reach in the bed and take her out without waking that girl up, I don`t know how it could be done, because most kids, when you pick them up, they have a reaction to either jump, jerk, or say, "Where am I going," or something. But Haleigh, somebody got her out without her saying nothing?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now very quickly, only have a couple of seconds, was your daughter`s relationship with the father of Haleigh rocky, as some of have said?

SHEFFIELD: My daughter and him has been separated for several years, so -- I mean, of course, a couple years ago, it was like rocky when they was going through this custody battle. But here lately, as far as I know, everything was, you know, going smoothly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. And it turned out that he got custody of the child, and it is a very, very tragic case.

Johnny Sheffield, I want to thank for joining me. I`d love to have you back. We hope that we get a happy ending here. We`re going to do everything we can in our power to find your little granddaughter.

We have much more to get to in the search for Haleigh Cummings, and I want to hear your thoughts. Give me a call: 1-877-JVM-SAYS.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHERIFF JEFF HARDY, PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA: We`ll expand the investigation as far as it needs to go. As far as whether or not Haleigh is still in the area, that is an unknown.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is the sheriff presiding over the search for 5- year-old Haleigh, who has been missing since early Tuesday.

Jennifer Bauer, a reporter with CNN affiliate WJXC-TV in Jacksonville, Florida.

Jennifer, tell us what is the very latest in terms specifically of the lie detector test and then the more detailed story now being offered by Misty, the young woman who was sleeping with the children when Haleigh disappeared.

JENNIFER BAUER, REPORTER, WJTC: Well, today we heard from the sheriff, and he told us that the investigation is continuing. They are interviewing people who know the little girl. They`re even interviewing people who don`t know the little girl. The sheriff told us this morning that they have issued lie detector tests. And he said they are willing to offer them to anyone who wants to take one.

The father, Ronald Cummings, Haleigh`s dad, tells us himself he took one. He tells us he passed. We talked to his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin. She tells us she also took one. We asked her how she did. She says she believed she passed. We are also told that the mother, the biological mother did not take one.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What did the sheriff say? OK, what did the sheriff say?

BAUER: The sheriff will not comment. Jane, he`s not giving any details about who took them or who has them. All he will tell us is that they were administered, and he`s telling us that they are being offered to anyone who`s willing to take them. So the only information we are able to get about the polygraph is from the people themselves who took them, and that`s all we`re able to get right now.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Give us a rundown of what Misty is saying specifically. Because the story is getting more detailed. There`s lights that go on. There`s a door that`s ajar. There`s going to the bathroom. Give us the quick lowdown on what she`s saying exactly happened.

BAUER: Well, as you know, Jane, today was the first time that we heard from Misty Croslin. We`ve been out here for three days. And today was the first time that she came out and talked to our station one on one for a very lengthy interview.

She told us, first of all, that the most, I think, alarming piece of information was that Haleigh was in a different bed. Now, we`ve been hearing all along from detectives that the 17-year-old girlfriend, the little brother, and Haleigh were all in one bed. Now we`re hearing that Haleigh was in her own bed.

She also told us that she got up to go to the bathroom, and the light in the kitchen was on. That`s also new information that police have not been able to confirm for us.

And detectives are telling us that they have taken evidence out of that home. They won`t tell us what, but they say they have collected evidence.

She also, Misty Croslin, in her interview, referred to that brick. Remember yesterday when we listened to those 911 tapes, she said on the phone call, "There`s a brick. The door`s propped open. It`s open. Someone took the little girl out the back."

But police tell us that there was a cinder block there and that apparently about 50 feet from their home, there was a pile of cinder blocks and one of those blocks, they believe, was used to prop open that back door.

But again, Jane, we`re getting a lot of conflicting reports. And I asked the sheriff himself, you know, why the conflicting stories? And he said, "You have to remember, you`re talking about a 17-year-old girl. And sometimes there`s issues with young kids when you`re dealing with them and questioning them" as from a detective`s standpoint.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: The grandfather says that he just doesn`t understand how anybody could have gotten out of there without signs of forced entry. We only have a couple of seconds. Any insights on that?

BAUER: All police will tell us is there was absolutely zero signs of forced entry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And she said -- she said -- she said she went...

BAUER: Was the door open, was the door closed, was the door locked, we don`t know.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... when she went to sleep, the door was locked. That`s what she said, apparently.

BAUER: Police tell us the door was not forced open.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

BAUER: Does that mean someone had a key? We don`t know.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`ve got more in just seconds, and we`re going to take your calls. They`re lining up. Stay right there.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here are the latest developments on the Caylee Anthony case. Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter, claims he has learned cops have collected extremely incriminating evidence against Casey.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: I`ve heard this morning that they were fingerprints and that the fingerprints are Casey`s.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Will fingerprints put this case to bed? The Anthony family reportedly plans to honor little Caylee with a memorial in a park instead of a headstone they fear could be vandalized. And we now know Lee`s reference to CMA was to both of them -- Caylee and Casey.

And just 70 miles from where Caylee`s remains were found, a massive search effort continues for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. We`ll tell you where the investigators are focusing their efforts now.

Back with more on the tragic disappearance of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, joining me, my expert panel: Joe Navarro, former FBI agent and profiler; Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor, law professor, and author of "And Justice for Some;" Don Clark, former FBI special agent in charge and Jennifer Bauer from WJXT TV in Jacksonville, Florida.

The phone lines are lighting up Gerry in California, thanks for you patience sir, question or thoughts?

JERI IN CALIFORNIA: Hi, Jane, --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, it`s a girl ok, hi.

JERI: I love your show.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you.

JERI: I have a comment. Being that there was no forced entry could it be possible that it was a previous tenant who still had a key?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Very good thinking. Don Clark?

DON CLARK, FORMER FBI SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE: Well, yes, it could be possible that anybody could have been. But, Jane, here`s the key to this situation. Is that you`ve got several areas that you`ve got to look at. One happens to be the house, and that`s the original point that has to get some attention.

The other place that`s got to get some attention is that 44 child predators that`s in that area. And certainly, and simultaneously, you still have to look at relatives and friends and people who sometimes have access in and out of each other`s homes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, and as a matter of fact, we`ve got some maps here that we`re going to show you in just a second that really outline the problem. Here is a Google map of Central Florida. Haleigh`s home is in the small town of Satsuma, just 70 miles away from where Caylee Anthony lived.

Satsuma is tiny, but with a population of 5,400 people, the street where Haleigh lives is near a lake. You can see it right there and as you can see it`s not very densely populated.

I also have to go to what you also said, Don, and that is the 44 sex offenders who live right in the area. This is absolutely fascinating. We have a map of 44 sex offenders who live within a five-mile radius. This is the map that shows that.

I mean, is that the national average, Don Clark? That`s shocking to me. Why so many sex offenders in this particular neck of the woods?

CLARK: You know what, Jane, I don`t know exactly, but I`ve looked at a lot of numbers and I think that`s actually sadly, slightly below the national average, when you start looking at the larger populated areas. And I would suggest that that 44 is, of course, what the law enforcement community knows about.

And that`s what`s the frightening thing, is the ones that they don`t know about.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, Elizabeth in Texas, your question or thought, ma`am?

ELIZABETH: Yes, I would like to know why Misty waited to call 911 after the father got home. And the father commented that she had kept calling his cell phone, but he never answered it. I would like to know how many minutes from the time that child was missing until the time the father got home.

And I also think it`s strange, the father commented, he wasn`t aware of any cinder blocks in the backyard and they`re reporting that there was a pile of them 50 feet from the house and he frequently washed his vehicle in the backyard. It does not add up.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, ma`am, you are taking some very careful notes. I think you need to go a detective school because you`d be a good one. Jennifer Bauer, try to fill us in on all those details.

JENNIFER BAUER, WJXT TV, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA: I think the only thing to say is we are hearing a lot of inconsistencies again. I think yesterday, when we were talking to the sheriff, he mentioned that it was a 27-minute lapse from the time that they discovered Haleigh was missing to the time that they called -- or I shouldn`t say they but rather Misty Croslin called 911.

And the sheriff said, you know, you have to cut people some slack. Because unless you`re in that kind of situation, you never know how you`re going to react. As for the cinder blocks, today was the first time we were hearing about a pile 50 feet away.

Again, the family says they didn`t know anything about the pile of cinder blocks. I have personally myself been back to that home, I have stood on their driveway and taken a look at my surroundings. It is extremely wooded, extremely secluded. It is very possible that there could be a pile of anything 50 feet away and you wouldn`t see it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Right, the fact that they`re using the sheddies (ph) to try to get through the woods, that`s how dense the wooded areas are there.

I want to play that clip of Misty Croslin again. And like everybody, listen very carefully. She is the girlfriend of Haleigh`s dad. She was with the child at the time of the disappearance.

Listen closely to what she says.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, GIRLFRIEND OF HALEIGH`S FATHER: I just want her home. Want to have her home safe. Just drop her off somewhere or something. I just want her to come home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She meant a lot to you too?

CROSLIN: Yes, a real lot. I loved that little girl like she was my own.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You have to listen carefully Joe Navarro, but she said, I loved that little girl like she was my own. Do we make anything of the past tense? Or is that just a figure of speech?

JOE NAVARRO, FORMER FBI AGENT AND PROFILER: No, we do make something of that past tense. And we shouldn`t let that slip by.

In fact, we had a case here in Tampa, Florida, not that far about seven years ago where the same thing happened. The mother had actually taken the baby, put it in a garbage bag, and put it in a dumpster.

But I`ve got to tell you, Jane --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me say, before we go any further, --

NAVARRO: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- we don`t have any idea that that`s the same thing. I mean, this woman hasn`t been charged with anything, she`s not considered a suspect. And she may very well have simply been asleep when this child was abducted in the same room with her. But go ahead, finish your thought.

NAVARRO: Well, that may be so, but we still have to pay attention to that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, sure.

NAVARRO: The grandfather said something very significant. In essence, he was saying, this case does not pass the stink test.

He`s been to the house, he knows the family, he knows the situation, he knows how they sleep, he knows what noises are made when you walk in, he knows how the doors work, he knows everything about that. And in his own mind he`s saying, this does not pass the stink test.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, just remember that he is the -- on the mother`s side. And the mother and the father are separated and the father is with this other young woman, Misty.

So you never know what the motivations are. And I`m not saying he has bad motivations, but you know how those disputes are, that it can color your perception.

Linda in Texas, question or thought?

LINDA IN TEXAS: Hi Jane, thanks for taking my call.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hey, thanks for calling.

LINDA: I`m wondering if the abduction of Haleigh Cummings is not some sort of copycat scenario, because Haleigh and Caylee sound alike, both children are from Florida. And I`m wondering, could this be some sort of way to get attention, in some distorted way?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it`s an absolutely fascinating question and I`m going to toss it to Wendy Murphy.

WENDY MURPHY, FORMER PROSECUTOR: I don`t have my Ph.D. in psychology. I don`t know what makes people do things. I do agree with the previous caller that and other panelists, it doesn`t make sense yet.

If there`s still so much suspicion around the circumstances in the home, doesn`t mean it was a stranger.

But here`s what bugs me Jane, a couple of things, even if you`re a dumb criminal, it`s a really super dopey thing to do to pick on a child and to try to take a child out of a home at 3:00 in the morning.

Because it`s a rare chance --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But criminals are dumb.

Look at the case that we used of Jessica Lunsford who was taken out of her home in the middle of the night in Florida in an area where there were trailer parks.

MURPHY: I understand that --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.

MURPHY: But let me make a point. Because I think this is interesting. You`d have to be really dopey, because you can`t predict that the child will be quiet or alone. Unlike Jesse Lunsford, she was alone in her own bed and the neighbors knew it. You can`t predict that this child would be alone. And isn`t it interesting that it happened to be a time in the middle of the night when the father wasn`t home.

Could it have been someone who knew that only this 17-year-old nitwit was going to be there alone without the dad present? You know, it bothers me that there`s a delay in her report. I have a kid that`s 17. She wouldn`t wonder where the kid was.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But I`m sure your child is a genius.

MURPHY: No, au contraire. Believe me when I say this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.

MURPHY: It takes a real low IQ to say, child missing, 911. My turtle could do this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I don`t know if you`ve ever been panicked and had a missing any loved one. I will never -- I`ve used this example before of having a pet run away and how panicked you become. And you start running around and you really aren`t acting in a rationale fashion, Don Clark, a lot of the times.

CLARK: Well, let`s kind of get away from the emotions aspect of this and let`s look at the technical investigative aspect and the forensics and so forth and let`s try to dwell on that aspect. Forget about what this young lady did, because the police --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok, Don --

CLARK: -- the police officers ought to be able to identify what her actions were based on other things that they`ve heard.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok and I think that the big question is -- we have to leave it right there, but the big question is, how does somebody break into a house where the door is locked and there`s no sign of forced entry. That`s another mystery.

Joe, Wendy, Don, Jennifer, thank you so much. We`re going to stay on top of this case. We are going to do everything we can to find that little child.

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Nancy Grace Transcripts


February 25, 2009
• Judge Postpones Anthony`s Civil Deposition (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ng.01.html)



February 24, 2009
• Investigation Continues into Disappearance of 5-Year-Old Haleigh (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ng.01.html)



February 23, 2009
• Haleigh`s Brother Says Man in Black Took his Sister (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/23/ng.01.html)



February 20, 2009
• Girlfriend`s Cousin Eyed by Police in Missing Haleigh Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/20/ng.01.html)



February 19, 2009
• Sex Offender Arrested Near Missing Haleigh`s Home (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/19/ng.01.html)

February 18, 2009
• More Investigative Documents, Photos Released in Caylee Murder Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/18/ng.01.html)



February 17, 2009
• Police Pursue New Leads in Missing Florida Girl (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ng.01.html)



February 16, 2009
• Angry Anthony Family Jailhouse Confrontation on Tape (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/16/ng.01.html)



February 13, 2009
• Mystery Evidence Recovered in Search for 5-Year-Old (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ng.01.html)



February 12, 2009
• NANCY GRACE for February 12, 2009 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ng.01.html)



February 11, 2009
• Search for Florida 5-Year-Old Missing From Own Bed (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ng.01.html)



February 10, 2009
• Family Mourns Caylee Anthony at Memorial Service (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/10/ng.01.html)


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March 17, 2009
• Mother Opens Up about Missing Girl; Do Inconsistency Stories Hide Truth about Haleigh?; Rapist Who Imprisoned Daughter on Trial (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/17/ijvm.01.html)



March 16, 2009
• Three Charged with Providing Drugs to Anna Nicole Smith; Lindsay Lohan Getting Special Treatment? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ijvm.01.html)



March 13, 2009
• Why Different Stories of Missing Girl?; Father Says Focus Should be on Haleigh; Rihanna-Chris Brown Outrage; Drugged to Death? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/13/ijvm.01.html)



March 12, 2009
• Judgment Day for Bernie Madoff; Casey`s Court Crisis; Punch-drunk Love; Casey`s Attorney Seeks Release of Evidence; Missing Girl`s Father Weds (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ijvm.01.html)



March 11, 2009
• Did Casey`s Attorney Cry when Caylee Was Found?; Undercover Video Shows Chimp Abuse at Lab (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ijvm.01.html)



March 10, 2009
• Award Raised for Info on Haleigh Cummings; Father of Missing Girl Comforts Cummings Family; Bernie Madoff Expected to Plead Guilty to All Charges (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/10/ijvm.01.html)



March 09, 2009
• Father of Missing Girl Proposes to Girlfriend; New Video Surfaces of Caylee Anthony; Prosecutors Question Casey`s Defense Team; Victim of Madoff Angry at Talk of a Plea Deal (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/09/ijvm.01.html)



March 06, 2009
• Cases that Changed America (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/06/ijvm.01.html)



March 05, 2009
• New Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Case; Former Hostage Warns of Dangers of Drug Cartels (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/05/ijvm.01.html)



March 04, 2009
• Casey`s Lawyer Tries to Block Suicide Note; D.A. Not Going for Death Penalty against Casey Anthony; Survivor Says Players Removed Life Vests (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/04/ijvm.01.html)



March 03, 2009
• New Leads in Haleigh Cummings Case; Search Suspended for Men Lost at Sea (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/03/ijvm.01.html)



March 02, 2009
• Defense Fights to Keep Casey Photos, Video out of Court; Search Continues for Three Men Lost at Sea (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ijvm.01.html)



February 27, 2009
• Twists in Haleigh Search; Octo-drama; Desperate Search; No Discovery in Haleigh Cummings Search; Hearings Begin in Zanny the Nanny Lawsuit; Brother of Mauled Woman Considers Lawsuit (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/27/ijvm.01.html)



February 26, 2009
• Cops Search Dumpster Near Haleigh`s Home (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/26/ijvm.01.html)



February 25, 2009
• New Developments in Haleigh Cummings Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html)



February 24, 2009
• Relative Discusses Case of Missing Girl; Investigators Following Leads in Haleigh Cummings Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ijvm.01.html)



February 23, 2009
• Criminal Record for Missing Girl`s Father? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/23/ijvm.01.html)



February 20, 2009
• New Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Case; Where is Haleigh; Full House (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/20/ijvm.01.html)



February 19, 2009
• Experts Say Anthony Family Troubled; Octomom Looking for New House (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/19/ijvm.01.html)



February 18, 2009
• Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Murder Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/18/ijvm.01.html)



February 17, 2009
• What Happened the Night Haleigh Disappeared? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ijvm.01.html)



February 16, 2009
• Search Continues for Haleigh Cummings; Does New Evidence Spell Trouble for Amanda Knox? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/16/ijvm.01.html)



February 13, 2009
• Grandmother Weighs in on Haleigh`s Disappearance; Search Continues for Girl, 5, in Florida; Search Continues for Haleigh Cummings; Crash of Continental Flight 3407; Octo-Mom Outrage (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ijvm.01.html)



February 12, 2009
• Caylee Confirmed Cremated; Bounty Hunter Claims Casey`s Fingerprints Found on Caylee; Grandfather Speaks about Missing Haleigh (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ijvm.01.html)



February 11, 2009
• Casey`s Prosecutor Accused of Coercing Witness; Police Search for Girl, 5, in Florida (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ijvm.01.html)


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[Faith]

From Geraldo's website. Video

Ronald's interview with Geraldo- I love my daughter

Haleigh Cummings' father denies allegations of abuse, knowledge of daughter's whereabouts

Video

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Transcript

This is a rush transcript of "Geraldo At Large," from February 21, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
Watch "Geraldo At Large" weekends at 10 p.m. ET!

The following transcript is Geraldo's confrontation with Ronald Cummings, father of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. In the confrontation, Geraldo asks him about allegations he'd abused Haleigh, her biological mother and drug use.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH'S FATHER: This is uncalled for.


RIVERA, HOST "GERALDO AT LARGE": Chad and Marcus told me that during the vigil, you told them you were 75 percent sure who took Haleigh.

CUMMINGS: There is no way — I do not know who took Haleigh. If I had — if I had, uh, five percent of where Haleigh was at, I would be there now and not here.

RIVERA: Did you tell them that, though? Maybe you weren’t — maybe you were just [OVERLAP] were just — are they lying?




CUMMINGS: Yes, they’re absolutely lying. No, for no reason have I ever told anybody that I have any clue where my child is at. If I had any clue where my child — you know, national TV, they’re a bunch of liars. Chad and whoever told you this are a bunch of liars. I never even spoke with them.

RIVERA: They told — they told me that you hit Haleigh. Is that true?

CUMMINGS: No. Never, ever have I ever hit my child. Me and my child have an agreement. Daddy, daughter. She has been spanked on her behind the way DCF says that you can take care of disciplining your children.

RIVERA: You never backhanded her to the face?

CUMMINGS: [OVERLAP] Never. Never have I ever backhanded my child in the face, ever.

RIVERA: Did you hit Crystal when she was pregnant?

CUMMINGS: No. I did not. Never.

RIVERA: You didn’t hit her in the back of the head and kick her?

CUMMINGS: No. No. I never have.

RIVERA: You swear to God you never hit your pregnant woman?

CUMMINGS: [OVERLAP] Never. Never, never have I ever hit any woman, period. Never. And I’d like to know where all these allegations are coming from because I would like to talk — talk to law enforcement and have these false allegations, um, known that, um, the false allegations against me, somebody needs criminal charges pressed against them.

RIVERA: What about the allegations of cocaine use, methamphetamine use?

CUMMINGS: There’s nothing. I do not do drugs.

RIVERA: You don’t do drugs? All those arrests were all —

CUMMINGS: No.

RIVERA: Do you work for the police? Are you an informant?

CUMMINGS: No, I am no an informant. I do not work for the police. I work for PDM, which is a, um, bridge building company. That’s who I work for.

RIVERA: And you’ve never been involved in the drug trade?

CUMMINGS: No.

RIVERA: And when they tell me they saw bricks of marijuana that you had in the house, plants all around the house, is that a lie?

CUMMINGS: It is absolutely a lie and I would like to know where the information is coming from so that I can get, um, the proper authorities to take care of this.

RIVERA: You’re — put all this stuff aside. If some associate of yours, some associate that had something to do with drugs and this is not about drugs but if these people are on the dark side of life, don’t you think that you should share that information? Share — tell us about — when you told Marcus and Chad that you were 75 percent sure and you had your gun ready and your — and you had your gun ready and you were gonna go get em, didn’t you say that? Isn’t that a fact, Ron?

CUMMINGS: No, it is not a fact.

RIVERA: Why would they make that up? Why would they make that up?

CUMMINGS: I don’t know why they would make [OVERLAP] for you. But I — I am fixing [OVERLAP] to have the law called right here, right now because you’re making up things or they’re making up things and you’re getting into —

RIVERA: I am — I am relating to you what they are saying.

CUMMINGS: [OVERLAP] My face, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You need to back off, man. That’s my son.

RIVERA: Alright. Well I’m sorry — I am sorry for what has happened.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, you’re not sorry. [OVERLAPPED CONVERSATION]

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You need to go.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are — [OVERLAPPED CONVERSATION] Listen. You wanna come up here and make [OVERLAP] allegations. Why don’t you go back to —

RIVERA: These are not my allegations, man. These are not my allegations. You have to understand that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: [OVERLAP] Okay. [OVERLAP] All we care about —

RIVERA: You have to understand this is not my allegation. Don’t touch him, don’t touch him, please. We’re leaving. Come on, let’s go. Let’s go.

CUMMINGS: [OVERLAP] I wanted you to see that all this is about is my daughter. I love you, baby. [OVERLAP] If you are out there, I want you to know that I love you and I will find you, baby. I love you. And two, whoever — whoever has you, please bring my daughter home to me. I love my daughter. I love you, baby. I will find you.

RIVERA: You believe she’s alive then?

CUMMINGS: I’m always gonna believe that my daughter’s alive until they find her. [SILENCE]


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Geraldo's interview with Crystal.

Scared To Leave

Crystal Sheffield claims her relationship with Haleigh Cummings' father was abusive

VIDEO

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Transcript

This is a rush transcript of "Geraldo At Large," from February 21, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


GERALDO RIVERA, HOST "GERALDO AT LARGE": When Ron Cummings is seen on television, most often, he is crying or in mourning or other conduct appropriate to a father whose daughter has gone missing. But the family on the mother’s side tells a much different story and a much different image emerges of Ron Cummings. Crystal, is not a fact that he was abusive to you?

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH'S MOM: Yes he was. He — when I first got pregnant with Haleigh, he punched me in the back of the head and before then, he was verbal. I mean he was just very abusive.

RIVERA: What did he call you?

SHEFFIELD: Stupid *EXPLETIVE DELETED*. You stupid *EXPLETIVE DELETED*. You *EXPLETIVE DELETED*. I mean you name it, he said it.

RIVERA: Describe when he punched you when you were pregnant.

SHEFFIELD: We were living in Leesburg at his mother’s house. And I had just found out I was pregnant. We were both doing cocaine and I stopped and I walked in the bedroom and he was doing it.
And I was like, you know, how are you gone do this in front of me after I just found out I was pregnant and I just stopped? And he got very pissed off and I had my — I was facing — I had my back turned to him. He punched me in the head and then I turned around and he kicked me off the bed.

RIVERA: And he knew you were pregnant when he kicked you?

SHEFFIELD: Yes he did. He knew.

RIVERA: And was he abusive, basically, throughout your relationship?

SHEFFIELD: The whole time. I mean his mother knew, his granny knew. His granny even told me once, um, I don’t know why you’re with him.

RIVERA: Why did you stay with him?

SHEFFIELD: Because I was scared to leave.

RIVERA: Are you frightened of him even today?

SHEFFIELD: Yes I am.

RIVERA: Why?

SHEFFIELD: Just because of all the things he’s done to me.

RIVERA: Are you fr— frightened that he’ll come after you?

SHEFFIELD: Sometimes I am. I mean he’s called and wanted me to come back several times and I have went back a couple times just to be with my kid and he was still the same and I left. It hurt to leave em but I’m not gonna put myself through that.

RIVERA: Do you believe his story about what happened?

SHEFFIELD: No, I don’t. I mean I know he loves Haleigh and — [PAUSES] — his temper, I mean it could get bad enough for him to hurt Haleigh. But I do know he loves Haleigh. Haleigh is his heart and everybody knows that.

RIVERA: Has he ever hit Haleigh?

SHEFFIELD: Um, my cousin, Candice, told me when we got down here for this incident, that, um, he come to her house — it was Ronald, Haleigh, Junior and Misty. And Haleigh bumped into him or smarted off to him and she said he just backhanded her. And she fell flat on her face on the porch.

RIVERA: Marie, you have a picture of Haleigh.

MARIE GRIFFIS, HALEIGH'S GRANDMA: Yes.

RIVERA: Do you want me to see it?

GRIFFIS: Yes. You get it.

RIVERA: Alright this is a picture, a disturbing picture, that shows Haleigh with an obvious black eye, a cut on her nose and the — a bruise that goes from the top of her left eye all the way down to the left side of her cheek.
Now I understand the school records indicate that she had an accident at school. Are these injuries the result of that accident?

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GRIFFIS: Uh, that’s what we were told, that she fell at school and — or who was pushed at school by — by another child and that she fell catching the sidewalk and that was the results of it. But if you fall on the sidewalk, why didn’t her hands get skinned, her knees get skinned?

SHEFFIELD: [OVERLAP] The nurse said that all she had was a scratch on her nose.

RIVERA: So you — you — do you believe that Ron Cummings hit this child?

SHEFFIELD: I don’t know if he hit her or if she fell down or any other incident happened. But that did not happen at school. The nurse said she had a scratch on her nose.

RIVERA: And you have witnesses that he has hit this child?

SHEFFIELD: Yes.

GRIFFIS: Yes.

RIVERA: Do you believe that Ron Cummings knows who took Haleigh?

SHEFFIELD: Yes. I mean he’s told my brother and my fiancé that he knows — he’s 75 percent sure he knows where his daughter is. He said on TV that he had no enemies.

RIVERA: Is that true?

SHEFFIELD: No. He’s got plenty of enemies.

SHEFFIELD: I know when he’s really crying, that is fake.

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Cadaver Dog Focuses on Dumpster in Haleigh Search

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Haleigh Cummings, 5
This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," February 26, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: There is breaking news out of Florida in the disappearance of five-year old Haleigh Cummings. We are learning that just a short time ago a cadaver dog hit on a dumpster near the home where Haleigh was last seen.
Haleigh, allegedly last seen Monday, February 9 at about 10:00 p.m. by Misty Croslin, the 17-year-old girlfriend of Haleigh's father. Joining us is WAWS reporter Leslie Coursey.
Leslie, first of all, where are you standing, because I know you are in close proximity to where all of the activity is?
LESLIE COURSEY, WAWS: That is right. Where Haleigh lived is about one-quarter of a mile down that way. Where Haleigh's grandmother lives is maybe two tenths of a mile down this way. The fence is right here, and right on the other side of this fence is where the dumpster was located.
VAN SUSTEREN: What else is behind that fence? Is it a residential area? Are there mobile homes or other dumpsters? What's behind the fence?

COURSEY: What it looks, it looks like a storage lot for the adjacent mobile home park. Inside this fence you will find boat trailers, parks. You'll find sheds an RV's.
VAN SUSTEREN: We are told that a cadaver dog had a hit. Do you have any more information beyond that? Can you tell us what time a day it was, or had they been there before?
COURSEY: I do. About 3:00 today, three different cadaver dogs hit on the same exact dumpster. They do not know why the dogs hit on the dumpster. This area has been searched before, but this was the first time the dumpster was empty.
The emptied everything out. It took about two hours. And just a few minutes ago police came outside and said they found nothing. They found no evidence, no dead animals. They have no idea why these dogs hit on the dumpster.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have there ever been cadaver dogs at that dumpster after February 9 other than today?
COURSEY: They have had canines out here and bloodhounds, but this is the first time they have had cadaver dogs out. There was seven dogs out today. There will be 12 dogs out tomorrow.
VAN SUSTEREN: I take it the dumpster has been dumped since February 9. Is that right?
COURSEY: No. This was the first time the dumpster was emptied. The area, this lot behind me, has been searched three or four times, police say. But they had bloodhounds out.
• Watch Greta's interview (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501724,00.html#)
But they never got a hit on the dumpster. They said before tonight's there was really no reason to empty it. Tonight was the first time it was emptied.
Inside all they found was construction debris and leaves and branches, things like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: So, assuming the cadaver dogs were correct, the three different cadaver dogs, the suggestion is that there was one time a dead body in that dumpster, but that now they have searched that dumpster, and there is not a dead body in that dumpster.
COURSEY: Exactly right. Police are calling this an anomaly. They don't know why the dogs hit on the dumpster. Like I said, they didn't even find any dead animal. Sometimes these cadaver dogs will pick up on the scent of a dead animal. Go ahead.
VAN SUSTEREN: Was the material in the dumpster put there recently? Could the material had been next to a dead body and then placed in the dumpster and then hit by the three cadaver dogs?
COURSEY: Police haven't said when the last time the dumpsters was dumped, so we do not know how long the trash has been there.
VAN SUSTEREN: But is the trash exclusively construction trash, or are their clothes or personal trash in there?
COURSEY: No. It's strictly construction. There is a lot of concrete block in there, sidings of mobile homes, a couple pieces of lawn furniture, but that was about it.
VAN SUSTEREN: Who owns the dumpster?
COURSEY: My guess is the adjacent trailer park right on the other side of this fence. It is owned and operated by them. They are the ones who take care of all of that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is there anyone in that mobile home area that you know has any relationship whatsoever with Haleigh Cummings family?
COURSEY: Like I said, right where we are--I can see Ronald Cumming's house from where I am right now. Where Haleigh lived is just about a quarter of mile down the road. So they walked past this every single day. There are a lot of relatives here in this neighborhood.
VAN SUSTEREN: What is the working theory of the police tonight? Do you have any idea?
COURSEY: They are keeping a very, very tight-lip. They say they are working 1,600 different leads, but they have no idea, they really have no idea where this girl is.
VAN SUSTEREN: The dumpster looks like a typical dumpster, at least the aerial shot that we had. Did the dogs hit in the same exact area of the dumpster?
COURSEY: Police didn't say that. They did say just three different dogs hit on that exact same dumpster. They emptied the dumpster. They even lifted up the dumpster to make sure nothing was underneath. And, again, they found nothing.
VAN SUSTEREN: Where is the family of Haleigh Cummings these days?
COURSEY: Right now the family is very divided. They keep to their own camps.
Ronald Cummings camp, they have been staying out of the media spotlight. They don't want to talk to us at all.
Haleigh's mother, however, they have been very friendly. They set up camp on the outside of the neighborhood. They have a tent set up. They have candles and flowers and a grill, and they stay there from sun up until sundown every single day.
VAN SUSTEREN: Where is the girlfriend, the 17-year-old girlfriend?
COURSEY: Misty Croslin has been noticeably absent. We have not seen her in a couple of days. In fact, we talked tonight to Ronald Cummings' mother, and we asked if it was possible that they broke up. She said they are still a couple.
Obviously Haleigh's disappearance has put a strain on their relationship, but they are still a couple and they are still working through this.
VAN SUSTEREN: And has the girlfriend been questioned again? I heard that she might have been questioned again recently.
COURSEY: She was questioned again last week. I have not heard of any questioning again this week.
VAN SUSTEREN: And are they still getting tips, people spotting this little girl in different places?
COURSEY: Absolutely. Just yesterday a truck driver friend of the family thought he saw Haleigh in Michigan, snapped a picture of this little girl, sent it down to the family. It turns out it was not her. So they are getting leads in all the time.
VAN SUSTEREN: Leslie, thank you.

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NANCY GRACE

Cadaver Dogs Added to Search for Haleigh

Aired February 26, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, breaking news, Satsuma, Florida. A 5- year-old little girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she`s gone, vanished into thin air, the back door propped wide open. The father comes home from the night shift to find not a single trace of little Haleigh.

Bombshell tonight. Multiple teams of dogs, dogs specially trained to find human remains, spend the entire day re-searching dense woods around the home where little Haleigh disappears. Specialized cadaver K-9s brought in to join the search for Haleigh, this at least the third time the same area is searched, but now again with cadaver dogs. Why now? What do police know?

As dogs continue to search, the family, desperate to find their little girl, releases new home video, hoping to spark tips to find Haleigh. And while members of little Haleigh`s immediate and extended family have taken multiple polygraphs and stated they passed, lead investigators say no one - - repeat, no one -- has been cleared.

We confirm the girlfriend/baby-sitter with Haleigh the night she disappears back today for police questioning. It goes on for hours, this at least the fourth time Misty Croslin has been interrogated. Police sifting through over 2,000 tips, but can Haleigh`s 4-year-old little brother ID the kidnapper? The boy, ostensibly sleeping with his sister when she`s snatched, describing a grown man taking Haleigh in the middle of the night, a man dressed entirely in black.

And what about the mystery vehicle seized for evidence? Investigators still not divulging the make, model or ownership. As local police refuse to scale back the search and DNA is taken from the bio mom, tonight, where is 5-year-old Haleigh?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking developments in the case of 5-year-old Florida girl Haleigh Cummings, who police believe was kidnapped from her own bed. Authorities, including cadaver dogs, are out searching near Haleigh`s home today for any clues into the child`s disappearance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our main focus is finding Haleigh Cummings and getting her home to her family.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police say they`re continuing to follow up on the nearly 2,000 leads that have come in so far. That includes the four Haleigh sightings that investigators say have all turned out to be false.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: While the search goes on, Putnam County officers are once again interviewing 17-year-old girlfriend Misty Croslin. Croslin, who was sleeping in the same room as Haleigh, was the last person to see the child before she was taken in the middle of the night.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want everybody to know that I didn`t do anything to that little girl! I loved her like she`s my own, and I`ll do anything to get her back!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Also today, Haleigh`s family released home video showing little Haleigh opening Christmas presents. The family hopes this new video may trigger the tip that could lead them towards finding Haleigh.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If she hears this, Haleigh, I love you and I miss you. And we will bring you home, and I will be right here waiting on you when you get home. I love you!


GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Tonight, multiple teams of dogs specially trained to find human remains spend the entire day re-searching dense woods surrounding the home where little Haleigh disappears. Specialized K-9s brought in to join the search for Haleigh, this at least the third time the same area searched, but now again with cadaver dogs. Why now? What do police know?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Over 2,000 tips have been received in the case of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, who police say was abducted in the middle of the night. Law enforcement officials, as well as cadaver dogs, are out searching the area around the home where Haleigh was taken today.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police have now received more than 2,000 tips, and at least four have been sightings of girls who look like Haleigh. The sightings have been reported in Tennessee, St. Augustine, Colorado and Indiana. But deputies say, and family members agree, it is not their little girl.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Meanwhile, the 17-year-old girlfriend of Haleigh`s father, Misty Croslin, is being questioned by police again. Croslin says she woke up in the middle of the night on February 11th and Haleigh was gone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you take a polygraph?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I did. But I`m not supposed to talk about that. They told me not talk about that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But you did...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I did take a polygraph.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you passed it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My understanding is that I passed it, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family, hoping to trigger more tips, just released home video of Haleigh opening presents Christmas morning.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`ve got to believe that that baby`s alive somewhere. I mean, if you lose that, you`ve got nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family is still in tents, praying for their little girl`s safe return, while the reward for information leading to Haleigh`s recovery has now reached over $25,000.

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER: I`m here to plead for the life of my daughter. I want her to come home.

Please bring my daughter home. And if you`re watching, I love you. That`s it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight out to Marlaina Schiavo, our producer standing by at the crime scene where police are searching. Marlaina, cadaver dogs specially trained to find human remains shipped in from out of the jurisdiction -- they`ve been searching the entire day. Again they`re near Haleigh`s home. Explain.

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. They had seven cadaver dogs searching today. They had multiple teams from counties in the surrounding area. And they also brought in dogs from Georgia. They are searching tomorrow. They went up and down the street. They are still behind us right now. The search is not over.

They`ve also brought in a boat just in case dogs led them to the water and divers would have to go in. They`ve since taken the boat away, but they are bringing in more dogs, and the search is not over, Nancy.

GRACE: You are seeing video from just hours ago, the search going on into the late, late afternoon. There you see specially trained human cadaver dogs. Marlaina, repeat what you said about the water?

SCHIAVO: Well, they brought in a boat because there`s a lot of water in the surrounding area, and just in case any of the dogs led to this water, they wanted to have a boat ready so that they could re-search the water. Right now, there is no water search. Right now, they`re just sticking to the dogs, Nancy.

GRACE: Joining me right now here in studio, Tracy Sargent and Cinco. He is a human remains detection dog, highly trained in the discovery of human remains, cadaver dogs, as they`re commonly known. Tracy, explain to me, are cadaver dogs able to find bodies, human bodies, even under water?

TRACY SARGENT, K-9 HANDLER: Yes. Dogs working in the water is actually easy for them. The reason being is because the dogs always work with scent, and scent rises to the surface of the water. So dogs searching for people under water is actually an easy thing for them to detect.

GRACE: So that`s easy for a cadaver dog to find someone under water? I didn`t know that.

SARGENT: Yes, ma`am. What makes it challenging for water recovery is the idea of the dogs may be responding to scent in one area, but based upon the currents and wind conditions, the body may be located in another location. So that`s the challenge with water recovery.

GRACE: Tracy, I understand you have a demonstration with Cinco?

SARGENT: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Go ahead. And explain to the viewers as you`re doing it.

SARGENT: What we`re going to do is go ahead and show the viewers what we call a training aid. It essentially smells like a deceased person. And we`re going to hide this for the dog. Now, the dogs work really well for things that we can`t see or smell ourselves, so that`s the reason why we use detection dogs. So we`re going to show how Cinco tells us that there`s something there.

Hunt!

OK, so what he`s showing us is by his, what we call, trained alert, which is a sit, in this instance, he`s telling us there`s human remains scent in this location. Then what we do is we reward him and tell him he`s done a good job. So he`s done the job that we`ve asked him to do. At that point in time, if this was the real thing, we would investigate the area and see what exactly he is responding to. It could be evidence, it could be human body parts, it could be an actual body.

GRACE: And when she says evidence, everyone, that could be referring to Haleigh`s clothing. It could be referring to shoes, something she had with her. But remember, these dogs hit only on human remains. They are not bloodhounds, isn`t that right, Tracy? They`re not looking for a live human.

SARGENT: Yes, ma`am. That is correct. There is a big difference. It`s interesting with dogs is that when we`re alive, we smell totally different to dogs. Each person has an individual scent. But when we die, each person smells exactly the same. So regardless if it`s a child or an old person, to a dog, finding human remains, they smell the same. So we don`t have to have a person`s clothing for them to search for a deceased person.

GRACE: Right. You are seeing, everyone, K-9s that were brought out today there at Haleigh`s home, where she disappeared. And earlier, you were seeing just-released home video of little Haleigh. We understand the girlfriend/baby-sitter has been in police interrogations for nearly three hours today. Plus a Haleigh sighting across the country in Indiana.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Haleigh`s one of them children who fills up a home with smiles and laughter. And you just couldn`t be in there without her!

CUMMINGS: I know somebody took my little girl! Somebody stole my child out of my bed.

This is my heart. And somebody stole my heart from me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is -- basically, getting to be more than he can bear. I mean, he stood up to all the scaredness of, you know, being afraid and tired and not eating right and everything, and it`s -- it`s wearing him down.

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GRACE: Specially trained human cadaver dogs searching the area around little Haleigh`s home. Hours were spent going through the dense woods surrounding the home. You are seeing newly-released video of little Haleigh released by her family just hours ago in the hopes that this would spur tips. Where is Haleigh?

Also, we learn that the bio mom was asked to give DNA. That`s right, Crystal Sheffield gives DNA to police today. Also, the girlfriend/baby- sitter, Misty Croslin, there in the home, ostensibly asleep when little Haleigh is snatched, re-questioned, re-interrogated for nearly three hours today at police headquarters.

Straight out to T.J. Hart with WSKY. First I want to hear about this sighting, this alleged Haleigh sighting in Indiana.

T.J. HART, WSKY 97.3 FM: Very much so. We got word that a truck driver spotted what he thought was missing Haleigh. He reportedly took a picture from his cell phone, and then sent it on to a friend. In this case, it was Marie Griffis. Couldn`t make out heads or tails whether or not it was Haleigh. They took it to a local television station to try to enhance the picture, and it was determined that this once again was not Haleigh. At this time, we`d still like to see that picture and get another shot of that, but we`re in the course of getting that taken care of, but once again, it turned out to be a -- just a dead end at this point.

GRACE: T.J., how many sightings have there been of Haleigh?

HART: Several, according to Captain Dick Showland (ph) with the Putnam County sheriff`s office. Just the other day, we had a sighting in a shopping area in Grand Junction, Colorado, which turned out to be inaccurate. And we`ve had a couple (INAUDIBLE) as well, in St. Louis, I believe, and also in St. Augustine, inconclusive.

GRACE: You know what? God bless him. God bless the truck driver who cared enough to take a cell phone photo, thinking he was getting a shot of little Haleigh. This is going to take more than just a police department to crack this case.

You are seeing just-released home video of Christmas morning, little Haleigh opening up presents, her family releasing this video in the hope it will jog someone`s memory and spur tips to find the 5-year-old little girl.

Straight back out to Marlaina Schiavo. Marlaina, what can you tell me about the biological mother giving DNA today, Crystal Sheffield?

SCHIAVO: Well, we spoke to Crystal very briefly today, and while we were talking to her, she was getting in the her car. She was on her way to an appointment. And right when she left, someone came from Jacksonville to take a DNA sample. And right before Crystal had left, actually, she said, Let them know I`m at an appointment. So she knew that they were on their way and they wanted a DNA sample. They weren`t going to wait for her. They actually drove off, and they said they would meet her wherever she was. Whether or not they actually got the sample, we`re still waiting to hear, Nancy.

GRACE: Well, you know -- out to Dr. Joshua Perper, renowned medical examiner, the chief medical examiner, Broward County, author of "When to Call the Doctor." Dr. Perper, it`s a very simple process to get a buccal swab, an oral swab in the mouth, for DNA, right?

DR. JOSHUA PERPER, BROWARD COUNTY CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER: Absolutely. Just a swab and it`s not painful to the individual and it`s easy to take, right.

GRACE: So you know, it`s less than a minute. Don`t you use one of those long Q-tips and just swab the inside of your mouth like you`re using a toothbrush?

PERPER: That`s about it. It`s a very simple procedure, and as I said, it doesn`t cause any discomfort.

GRACE: None whatsoever. Dr. Perper joining us out of the Miami jurisdiction today.

To Matt Zarrell, who`s been on the case from the very beginning. Matt, what can you tell me about the girlfriend/baby-sitter taken in for police questioning again today? How many times has she been questioned?

MATTHEW ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE STAFFER: Well, we believe it`s been at least three or four times. We know last week, she was questioned. She was questioned initially...

GRACE: Well, Matt, last week, you told me it was three times last week. So that means it`s four times this week that we know of, correct?

ZARRELL: Yes. That`s correct.

GRACE: And it was regarding?

ZARRELL: It was regarding more questioning about similar transactions. They`ve been talking to her and asking similar questions each time. We know she`s been there. She was gone for about three hours and has returned now from meeting with investigators.

GRACE: Everyone, we are joining -- we are being joined right now by the grandmother of little Haleigh. She has been part of the search from the very beginning. When we come back, we`ll be questioning her about the latest search there at the home. Also, we`ll unleash the lawyers.

But as we go to break, outrage! A man who brutally tortured and raped a 24-year-old pregnant co-ed, Elizabeth Gillies, for hours before killing her is set for release from prison, the Mississippi parole board voting to parole Douglas Hodgkin, 43, convicted in `87 of murdering Gillies and her unborn child. This convicted rapist soon walking the street free again, a convicted killer and rapist. What was the Mississippi parole board thinking?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I stood there for about 30 minutes with her holding me, not wanting me to leave. And it hurts. And now I haven`t seen her in four weeks, and it hurts even worse.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like my granddaughter is alive. I have faith that God will bring my baby home. And if you give up that hope and that faith, then you really have nothing.

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GRACE: Right now, cadaver dogs are leaving the area after spending the entire day searching around the home where little Haleigh went missing. Now, that area has been searched, we know of, three times before. Why now? Why with cadaver dogs? What do police know? This as a sighting allegedly occurs in Indiana by a local trucker. He takes a photo with his cell phone.

Out to Teresa Neves, the paternal grandmother of Haleigh. Ms. Neves, thank you for being with us. I know the family is completely strung out at this time. I understand police are speaking to Ronald, your son.

TERESA NEVES, PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: Right now?

GRACE: Today. Yes. Have they spoken to him?

NEVES: We spoke with them earlier. They were -- they were warning us in advance that the dogs would be here.

GRACE: Right. Right. Did they give you any idea, Ms. Neves, as to why they`re re-searching the same area with cadaver dogs?

NEVES: No, ma`am. They just said it was critical. Basically, we have to trust those detectives to know what they`re doing and let them do their job. I don`t feel like they`re going to find my Haleigh out there and so...

GRACE: Why do you say that?

NEVES: Because I have to keep the hope and the faith that my Haleigh is alive.

GRACE: We are showing the viewers the video of little Haleigh at Christmas. She`s been opening up a purple hat and putting it on.

Ms. Neves, tell me about Haleigh. We`ve talked about her a million times, but it`s always about the night she went missing, the circumstances around her disappearance, her illness, Turner syndrome. Tell me about her as a little girl.

NEVES: Oh, she`s a precious little girl. She`s very petite and tiny. She has a beautiful little voice. She likes to sing. She loves to put on make-up. She loves to put make-up on everybody else. I`ve looked like a clown at least a million times. She loves nail polish. She`s just a typical little girl.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: While the search goes on, Putnam County officers are once again interviewing 17-year-old girlfriend Misty Croslin. Croslin who was sleeping in the same room as Haleigh was the last person to see the child before she was taken in the middle of the night.

TERESA NEVES, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD, HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I trust the detectives to do their job, and as far as Misty is concerned I know that she loved my grandchildren and they loved her dearly. You know, I mean, I don`t think you`ll find anybody who won`t say that those grandchildren didn`t love her just like a mom.

MISTY CROSLIN, RONALD CUMMING`S GIRLFRIEND, LAST SEEN HALEIGH: I just want everybody to know that I didn`t know anything to that little girl. I loved her like she`s my own and I`ll do anything to get her back, and if people think that I have something to do with it, if I have something to do with it, I knew where she was, we wouldn`t be sitting here today. We would have her and I don`t, and I don`t know where she is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello?

911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir, let me talk to you wife. Let me get some information from her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man. (INAUDIBLE)

911 DISPATCHER: OK. Can I talk to her?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

911 DISPATCHER: OK, listen to me. I need you to answer some questions. Does the door look like it was pried open?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Um.

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Straight back to paternal grandmother, Teresa Neves, joining us there at the home where little Haleigh went missing.

Miss Neves, I was just watching Misty Croslin with tears in her eyes. There`s something very believable about what she says. Look, I know she`s had some inconsistencies in her story, but a lot of that was explained away regarding was she in the bed with the little girl. No, the little girl was in the bed beside her, but in the same room.

About the little pink t-shirt. Misty Croslin is the one that reported her gone in the pink t-shirt, but then saw the t-shirt and showed it to police. That`s not entirely inconsistent.

NEVES: No, ma`am. I believe.

GRACE: Tell me.

NEVES: I believe.

GRACE: Tell me about the birthmark on Haleigh`s cheek. Let`s see if we can get a picture, Rosie, that shows that even faintly. There it is if you look down towards the bottom. Explain where her birthmark is, Miss Neves.

NEVES: It`s a little tiny -- I don`t know, almost like a peanut shape on the left side of her face.

GRACE: You`re seeing that up beside her ear.

I want to go out to the lawyers. Mickey Sherman, high-profile defense attorney joining us out of New York, and veteran defense attorney, former prosecutor, Peter Odom, joining us out of Atlanta.

To Mickey Sherman, this is now, we believe, the fourth time Croslin has been interrogated by police. Should she lawyer up?

MICKEY SHERMAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, AUTHOR OF "HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THOSE PEOPLE?": You know, she probably should. Without a doubt. But I think it speaks volumes that she apparently hasn`t, that she has been submitted to two polygraph tests and apparently passed them and doing what the grandma just said that she believes in her character and also the way we just saw her present herself.

She`d have to be a pretty darn good actress to carry that off. So she`s the most logical suspect, but she seems to be doing OK by herself so far.

GRACE: You know, Peter, he`s right. She is the most logical suspect. The father and the mother, because typically in child disappearances or child homicides, the family is responsible. That`s just the harsh reality. I don`t like it, but that`s the truth. But it`s hard for me to believe a 17-year-old girl can pull a hoax over on police for this long.

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, Nancy, the fact -- I agree with you, frankly, that she seems very candid, she seems very believable, but the fact that the police have been talking to her repeatedly, the fact that they have asked her many of the same questions over and over again, may be an indication they`re looking for inconsistencies and she probably needs to get a lawyer.

GRACE: Back to grandmother Teresa Neves. I have not seen your son Ron on air making public pleas regarding Haleigh`s disappearance in many, many days. Why?

NEVES: Ron was actually out, I believe, it was the day before yesterday at 1:00 press conference.

GRACE: Good.

NEVES: . to make a plea for Haleigh. He, basically -- he`s pretty much taken all he can take, you know? I mean.

GRACE: You know to.

NEVES: . it`s hard enough to lose your daughter and then people beat on you and badger you on top of it.

GRACE: To Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst and author of "Dealbreakers," she`s right. He and the girlfriend have taken quite the beating even though they`ve been cooperating with police. You know, maybe I`m wrong, but every time I`ve heard the girlfriend speak she seems relatively free of guile.

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": I think she`s free of guile. I think she`s innocent. I think it`s easy to throw stones at the family because we don`t know much about the broader picture, but it`s also easy to kind of confuse if there was some family dysfunction that contributed to this and to try to distinguish that from the fact that that doesn`t mean she was the perpetrator.

Like let`s say, perhaps she didn`t have a key or wasn`t allowed to have one, maybe she did go out that night. Maybe she propped the door open with the cinder block so she could have a way back in. Maybe she talked to someone in the neighborhood who knew she wasn`t at home and that contributed, and if that`s the case I`m sure she`s come clean at this point.

She`s just a 17-year-old girl, but that is quite different from whether or not she`s the perpetrator or had any malice towards this child. Someone came in and took little Haleigh and the sad fact is that when a child is abducted and a part of a sexual homicide abduction, the body is usually dumped within three blocks of the home.

That`s what we saw with Caylee Anthony, and I`m sure that`s why they have the cadaver dogs out searching at this point.

GRACE: To Marc Klaas, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation. He is also a crime victim. His daughter Polly was kidnapped from her home many years ago and murdered.

Marc Klaas, a tireless victim`s advocate since that time. Marc, another thing about lie detectors and I -- I just can`t say this enough, when Polly was kidnapped you go to police, you did, and said, quick, polygraph me right now so you can clear me and go on to look for my daughter.

You know, someone can lie on a polygraph about one issue like, were you drinking that night? Were you -- did you smoke pot that night? Did you take medication? Did you leave the back door open that night? And the person thinking of getting in trouble can lie about a tangential or collateral issue and flunk the polygraph.

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I -- I don`t know. All I know that I took a polygraph and I passed it. I think one other thing that people have to understand about Misty is that she`s ground zero on this issue and she was the person that was the last one to see the little girl.

The little girl was in her care. There appear to have been inconsistencies in her story, therefore law enforcement does have to continually ask her questions so more information will emerge. Was there a man in black? Did she see him? Perhaps. Was there a pedophile cousin in Tennessee that was there and then left shortly thereafter?

Well, that`s something that seemed to emerge a little bit later as well. But also, I think that Dr. Marshall was exactly right about the cadaver dogs being in their neighborhood. Remember, Jessica Lunsford and Caylee Anthony were both found within several hundred yards of their homes and then finally, I think that people have to understand that I thank you so much for talking about the truckers.

You know, America`s truckers are unheralded and unsung heroes in the fight for missing children and they`ve got a long and storied relationship with this issue. There are more than two million long-haul truckers on the highways of America on a given day and they are in constant communication with each other.

So this is a force that can probably do much more than they already do, but already they`re a great ally for our cause.

GRACE: You know, they really are. How many times have you seen a truck go by with a missing child`s.

KLAAS: Yes.

GRACE: . picture on that truck? So you`re absolutely right again, Marc Klaas.

I want to go back to our special guest, Tracy Sergeant and Cinco, who`s joining us, a cadaver dog, human remains detection dog. I understand you have with you part of a human rib? Please, go ahead.

TRACY SERGEANT, DOG TRAINER: Yes, ma`am. We`re going to show you a demo. It`s important to understand that the body goes through different phases of decomposition and the dogs need to be trained in those different phases. So earlier we showed you how a dog will find somebody, let`s say the smell the flesh. In this case we`re going to show you how he will locate bone.

GRACE: OK.

SERGEANT: Again, I`ll give him the command to search for it. Cinco, hunt. Again, he will respond just as he did before, in this case, a trained alert. So I will give him the ball and reward him and again, we`ll investigate what he has searched.

GRACE: Cadaver dogs, the entire day outside the home of little Haleigh where she went missing.

As we go to break happy birthday to hair and makeup superstar Jill Devito. She`s a cover girl herself. Happy birthday, Jill. You`re finally 21. And happy birthday, 74, to a friend of the show Jimmy Johnson. Happy birthday, Jimmy, Fayetteville, Georgia. Isn`t he handsome?

And a very special happy birthday to Sam. A junior at Georgia Southern University majoring in biology, minor computers, holds down a job and knows how to cook. There he is on the right. He`s a handsome fellow. Happy birthday, Sammy.

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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: We're back live in Satsuma, Florida, reporting on the disappearance of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, little Haleigh allegedly last seen by the 17-year-old girlfriend of Haleigh's father at about 10:00 PM on February 9.
Joining us live is Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, and Haleigh's grandmother, Marie Griffis. Nice to see both of you. Any news today, Crystal, at all? Nothing?
CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH'S MOTHER: Nothing.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you talked to the police today?
SHEFFIELD: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you, Marie?
MARIE GRIFFIS, HALEIGH'S MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: Not since last night.
VAN SUSTEREN: What were they telling you last night?
GRIFFIS: He -- last night, he just stopped and confirmed that the dumpster that they had went through, the smell coming out of it was just debris laying in water. And something else was in there, he said, but it had nothing to do with Haleigh, and just letting us know that they had turned the trailer back over to Ronald.

VAN SUSTEREN: And was that -- I mean, you're making a reference to that the -- that there have been some dogs that have made a hit on that -- on that dumpster, which cast a lot of suspicion on the dumpster?
GRIFFIS: Yes. Yes. They smelled something, but he said there was nothing in there. They went through it piece by piece.
VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, you know, I can't even imagine the agony. What do you -- I mean, how do you pass your days, just waiting and waiting? Is that...
SHEFFIELD: I take it day by day.

VAN SUSTEREN: What -- you know, what -- what's your child like? Tell us about her. I mean, is she the kind who -- would she ever walk off with anybody?
SHEFFIELD: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Absolutely not?
SHEFFIELD: No. No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is she a shy kid, a bold kid?
SHEFFIELD: She's not shy, but she's not going to go off with a stranger. I mean, she's just -- she's a wonderful little girl. She'll talk to you, but she's not going to go with a stranger.
VAN SUSTEREN: Marie, do you think she's capable of opening a deadbolt lock?
GRIFFIS: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why not? I mean (INAUDIBLE) been with you, and like, you've -- I mean, she just doesn't seem like a kid who's interested in locks and would mess with the door?
GRIFFIS: Well, at our house, I keep my deadbolt locked, and it's right where a kid can open it. My 9-year-old daughter, she can unlock it, but the other kids don't usually mess with it. And Haleigh has never opened the back door and went out of it.
VAN SUSTEREN: Crystal, what's your -- you know, in your heart or -- what do you think happened? Or your mind. I mean -- I mean, like, what -- deep down inside, what's your -- what's your suspicion?
SHEFFIELD: I honestly don't know. I mean, there's so much going around. I hope somebody has her and they're taking care of her. I mean, because I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. All I hear is what everybody's saying happened, and I just -- I hope someone has her and they're taking care of her. And I just want them to bring her home.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you actually live in this community?
SHEFFIELD: No. I live in Baker County.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you ever lived in this area?
SHEFFIELD: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: In the time that you lived here, did you ever hear about kids being nabbed or grabbed, or anything.
SHEFFIELD: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: In broad daylight it looks like a pretty safe area. There were not a lot of people around today. It looked pretty safe.
SHEFFIELD: She was a year old when me and her dad moved here. And I lived here until she was almost 15. I never had no worries about my kids running around playing with the neighborhood kids. We never worried about anybody coming and snatching one of our kids. This is the first time.
VAN SUSTEREN: What is your sort of thought on this, if you are investigating it?
SHEFFIELD: Somebody in that house knows what happened.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you spoken to Ronald or his girlfriend since your granddaughter disappeared?
SHEFFIELD: No.
VAN SUSTEREN: Have you spoken to them either directly?
SHEFFIELD: I have spoke to Ronald. I have not spoke to Misty.
VAN SUSTEREN: And when you spoke to Ronald, what did you ask him.
SHEFFIELD: I did not ask him nothing. He just told me he was sorry and that if he had been home from work, it would not have never happened.
VAN SUSTEREN: He's hurting. He is a good father, isn't he?
SHEFFIELD: Yes. He loves Haleigh. I know Haleigh is his heart, and I do not think he hurt her.
VAN SUSTEREN: And we certainly hope we'll get some good news and find that child, your granddaughter and daugther. Thank you both for joining us.
GRIFFIS: Thank you.
SHEFFIELD: Thank you.
VAN SUSTEREN: Moments ago, we walked through the neighborhood where Haleigh was last allegedly seen with the missing child's paternal grandmother Teresa Neves.
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VAN SUSTEREN: How did you find out?
TERESA NEVES, HALEIGH CUMMINGS PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: He called me.
VAN SUSTEREN: About what time did he call you?
NEVES: He called me 3:27, 3:28.
VAN SUSTEREN: So right after the 911 call? Right before?
NEVES: I believe that she was on with 911 when he called me.
911 CALL: (INAUDIBLE)
NEVES: He was in a panic.
911 CALL - RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH CUMMINGS’ FATHER: I just got home from work. My five-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now.
NEVES: And I thought, I am in my nightgown, and I am throwing me jeans on and going out of the door, and I thought that she is probably hiding under the bed or something.
VAN SUSTEREN: How far do you live from here?
NEVES: I live about somewhere between 12 and 15 miles.
VAN SUSTEREN: So did you hightail it over here?
NEVES: It took me about five minutes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So you did move fast.
NEVES: I was well over the speed limit, that's for sure. But I just thought if they got behind me, there would be more people here when we got here.
VAN SUSTEREN: So when did you get here, about 4:00 a.m.
NEVES: When I got here, it was about 3:30.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is the level of pain that which you imagined, or when it really happens, are there any words to describe it?
NEVES: I don't think that anybody ever, ever could understand how bad and how deep that hurts. And I do not think that they can understand the fear that you feel, not knowing where your child is and knowing that she is scared to death.
She is a five-year old. She was not a child who would go out in the dark. So you know that somebody took her.
But she is a daddy's girl. To be away from her father, you just know that she is scared to death, you know? I am afraid that maybe some couple who can't have a child and wanted a child, because she was so precious, they took her, and they are taking care of her.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did you say to Ronald? I know it is horrible for you, and it is horrible for your son. What are you saying to him now to try to help him get through this?
NEVES: The same thing I tell everybody--you have to keep praying. You have to keep the faith, and you have to believe what you pray.
VAN SUSTEREN: What do you think happened? Do you have any idea?
NEVES: I don't. No, I don't. I wish I did. I wish I could come up with any kind of scenario that would help find my baby girl.
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VAN SUSTEREN: We are going to bring you the very latest on this investigation as soon as we get it.

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March 23, 2009
• Evidence Paints Picture of Casey Anthony as Pathological Liar; Larry Birkhead Moving on (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/23/ijvm.01.html)



March 20, 2009
• New Evidence Released in Casey Anthony Case; Psychiatrist Weighs in on Octomom; Haleigh -- Images of Abuse?; Rihanna Sex Tape? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/20/ijvm.01.html)



March 19, 2009
• Did Haleigh`s Father Abuse Her? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/19/ijvm.01.html)



March 18, 2009
• Rift Between Haleigh Cummings Family Grows Worse; Natasha Richardson Reportedly Near Death; Casey Anthony Case Witness List; Incest Trial Shocker; Octo Madness (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/18/ijvm.01.html)



March 17, 2009
• Mother Opens Up about Missing Girl; Do Inconsistency Stories Hide Truth about Haleigh?; Rapist Who Imprisoned Daughter on Trial (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/17/ijvm.01.html)



March 16, 2009
• Three Charged with Providing Drugs to Anna Nicole Smith; Lindsay Lohan Getting Special Treatment? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ijvm.01.html)



March 13, 2009
• Why Different Stories of Missing Girl?; Father Says Focus Should be on Haleigh; Rihanna-Chris Brown Outrage; Drugged to Death? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/13/ijvm.01.html)



March 12, 2009
• Judgment Day for Bernie Madoff; Casey`s Court Crisis; Punch-drunk Love; Casey`s Attorney Seeks Release of Evidence; Missing Girl`s Father Weds (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ijvm.01.html)



March 11, 2009
• Did Casey`s Attorney Cry when Caylee Was Found?; Undercover Video Shows Chimp Abuse at Lab (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ijvm.01.html)



March 10, 2009
• Award Raised for Info on Haleigh Cummings; Father of Missing Girl Comforts Cummings Family; Bernie Madoff Expected to Plead Guilty to All Charges (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/10/ijvm.01.html)


March 09, 2009
• Father of Missing Girl Proposes to Girlfriend; New Video Surfaces of Caylee Anthony; Prosecutors Question Casey`s Defense Team; Victim of Madoff Angry at Talk of a Plea Deal (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/09/ijvm.01.html)


March 06, 2009
• Cases that Changed America (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/06/ijvm.01.html)



March 05, 2009
• New Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Case; Former Hostage Warns of Dangers of Drug Cartels (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/05/ijvm.01.html)



March 04, 2009
• Casey`s Lawyer Tries to Block Suicide Note; D.A. Not Going for Death Penalty against Casey Anthony; Survivor Says Players Removed Life Vests (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/04/ijvm.01.html)



March 03, 2009
• New Leads in Haleigh Cummings Case; Search Suspended for Men Lost at Sea (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/03/ijvm.01.html)



March 02, 2009
• Defense Fights to Keep Casey Photos, Video out of Court; Search Continues for Three Men Lost at Sea (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ijvm.01.html)



February 27, 2009
• Twists in Haleigh Search; Octo-drama; Desperate Search; No Discovery in Haleigh Cummings Search; Hearings Begin in Zanny the Nanny Lawsuit; Brother of Mauled Woman Considers Lawsuit (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/27/ijvm.01.html)



February 26, 2009
• Cops Search Dumpster Near Haleigh`s Home (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/26/ijvm.01.html)

February 25, 2009
• New Developments in Haleigh Cummings Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html)



February 24, 2009
• Relative Discusses Case of Missing Girl; Investigators Following Leads in Haleigh Cummings Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ijvm.01.html)



February 23, 2009
• Criminal Record for Missing Girl`s Father? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/23/ijvm.01.html)



February 20, 2009
• New Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Case; Where is Haleigh; Full House (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/20/ijvm.01.html)



February 19, 2009
• Experts Say Anthony Family Troubled; Octomom Looking for New House (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/19/ijvm.01.html)



February 18, 2009
• Evidence Released in Caylee Anthony Murder Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/18/ijvm.01.html)



February 17, 2009
• What Happened the Night Haleigh Disappeared? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ijvm.01.html)



February 16, 2009
• Search Continues for Haleigh Cummings; Does New Evidence Spell Trouble for Amanda Knox? (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/16/ijvm.01.html)



February 13, 2009
• Grandmother Weighs in on Haleigh`s Disappearance; Search Continues for Girl, 5, in Florida; Search Continues for Haleigh Cummings; Crash of Continental Flight 3407; Octo-Mom Outrage (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ijvm.01.html)



February 12, 2009
• Caylee Confirmed Cremated; Bounty Hunter Claims Casey`s Fingerprints Found on Caylee; Grandfather Speaks about Missing Haleigh (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ijvm.01.html)



February 11, 2009
• Casey`s Prosecutor Accused of Coercing Witness; Police Search for Girl, 5, in Florida (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ijvm.01.html)


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html

[Faith]

Nancy Grace Transcripts



March 26, 2009
• Anthony PI Says Family Split Over Casey/Haleigh`s Mother Suggests Baby-Sitter May Have Had Company (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/26/ng.01.html)



March 25, 2009
• Casey Anthony Questioned in Court (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/25/ng.01.html)



March 24, 2009
• More Racy Pictures of Casey Anthony Surface (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/24/ng.01.html)



March 23, 2009
• New Search in Natalee Holloway Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/23/ng.01.html)



March 20, 2009
• Police Documents Reveal Casey Anthony Thefts, Lies (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/20/ng.01.html)



March 19, 2009
• Haleigh Photos May Show Physical Abuse (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/19/ng.01.html)



March 18, 2009
• Haleigh`s Mother Accuses the Dad of Physical Abuse to the Children (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/18/ng.01.html)



March 17, 2009
• FBI Test Clears Brother Lee Anthony of Caylee Paternity (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/17/ng.01.html)




March 16, 2009
• Cummings Girlfriend Not Ruled Out as Suspect in Haleigh Disappearance (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html)


March 12, 2009
• Raunchy Casey Anthony Party Photos Made Public (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/12/ng.01.html)


March 11, 2009
• Casey Anthony Meeting With Attorney on Jailhouse Video/Alabama Man Kills 10 and Self in Shooting Spree (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/11/ng.01.html)


March 06, 2009 The look inside Haleigh's home
• Police Collect DNA From Missing Haleigh`s Family (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/06/ng.01.html)


March 04, 2009
• Casey Anthony Takes the 5th in Defamation Suit (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/04/ng.01.html)



March 03, 2009
• State Won`t Seek Death Penalty in Caylee Murder (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/03/ng.01.html)



March 02, 2009
• Judge Allows Release of Casey Party Photos (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ng.01.html)



February 27, 2009
• Lee Anthony`s Deposition (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/27/ng.01.html)



February 26, 2009
• Cadaver Dogs Added to Search for Haleigh (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/26/ng.01.html)


February 25, 2009
• Judge Postpones Anthony`s Civil Deposition (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ng.01.html)



February 24, 2009
• Investigation Continues into Disappearance of 5-Year-Old Haleigh (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/24/ng.01.html)



February 23, 2009
• Haleigh`s Brother Says Man in Black Took his Sister (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/23/ng.01.html)



February 20, 2009
• Girlfriend`s Cousin Eyed by Police in Missing Haleigh Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/20/ng.01.html)



February 19, 2009
• Sex Offender Arrested Near Missing Haleigh`s Home (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/19/ng.01.html)

February 18, 2009
• More Investigative Documents, Photos Released in Caylee Murder Case (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/18/ng.01.html)



February 17, 2009
• Police Pursue New Leads in Missing Florida Girl (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ng.01.html)



February 16, 2009
• Angry Anthony Family Jailhouse Confrontation on Tape (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/16/ng.01.html)



February 13, 2009
• Mystery Evidence Recovered in Search for 5-Year-Old (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/13/ng.01.html)



February 12, 2009
• NANCY GRACE for February 12, 2009 (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ng.01.html)



February 11, 2009
• Search for Florida 5-Year-Old Missing From Own Bed (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ng.01.html)



February 10, 2009
• Family Mourns Caylee Anthony at Memorial Service (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/10/ng.01.html)


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

[Faith]

The Today Show Transcript 3/13/09

Still-missing Haleigh has a new stepmom

Fri Mar 13, 2009

The last person to see a 5-year-old Florida girl before she went missing — who is also the new teenage bride of the child’s father — acknowledged that there are inconsistencies in the stories she’s told investigators, but was unable to say why her account has changed.

On Friday, TODAY’s Meredith Vieira asked 17-year-old Misty Cummings — nee Misty Croslin — if she knows that she changed the story of the night Haleigh Cummings disappeared.

“Yeah,” the young woman said.

Vieira asked why there are inconsistencies.

“I don’t know,” she replied.

Newlyweds in New York
Misty Cummings was joined in New York by Haleigh’s father, Ron Cummings. The couple, who have been together about six months, had gotten married on Thursday in a civil ceremony attended by some 20 people at his grandmother’s house in Florida, touching off a renewed flurry of media attention.

“Why come here?” Vieira asked both.

“To get the focus back on my daughter. My 5-year-old girl is gone and I want to find her,” Ron Cummings, 25, replied. He complained that his marriage to the former Misty Croslin has deflected attention away from his daughter, who has been missing since early in the morning of Feb. 10.

“I think they changed to my personal life and being married and everything else and they should be focusing on my 5-year-old daughter,” Ron Cummings told Vieira.

Despite massive searches and more than 2,000 tips phoned in to the Putnam County (Fla.) Sheriff, investigators have been frustrated in their efforts to find the little girl. Ron Cummings just shook his head “no” when Vieira asked him if investigators have any new leads.

Cummings and his bride say they’ve both taken and passed polygraph tests. NBC News’ Michelle Kosinski reported that Ron Cummings is not considered a suspect in the disappearance, and Cummings told Vieira that the lead detective in the case has told him that Misty is not a suspect either.

Nevertheless, detectives recently called Misty Cummings in for another interview. After being pressed about inconsistencies in her account, she stopped the interview and refused to answer further questions.

Inconsistent interviews
Vieira asked Misty why she ended the interview.

“There was a new guy that was new to the case and I didn’t feel comfortable with him. He was just being very rude to me … He was just like being rude, like yelling and pretty much telling me I was a liar,” she said, adding that she told the lead detective on the case, John Merchant, that she would talk to him, but not to the new investigator.

The main inconsistency involves where Haleigh was sleeping on the night she disappeared. Misty had originally said the girl was sleeping with her. Yet later she said that Haleigh’s 4-year-old brother, Ron Jr., was in her bed, but that Haleigh was sleeping on a mattress on the floor of Misty’s bedroom.

Both Misty and Ron Cummings also said that reports that Ron Jr. said he saw a man dressed in black are not true. Ron Cummings accused Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, of making that story up.

Vieira asked Misty, who wore a T-shirt with Haleigh’s picture on it to the TODAY set, to revisit the events that led to her calling 911 shortly before 3:30 a.m. on Feb. 10.

“I put her to bed at 8 o’clock,” Misty Cummings said. “I was washing our blankets, and after that was done, I put her blanket over her. She was sleeping when I put her blanket on her. She was in her bed, and it was about 10 o’clock. I finally laid down and went to sleep. I woke up at 3. I got up to use the bathroom, and I noticed the kitchen light was on. I walked through the kitchen, and that’s when I noticed the back door was open. So I run back to my bedroom to get my phone to call Ronald. That’s when I noticed Haleigh was gone.”

Ron Cummings works a late shift and said he was just pulling in the driveway when Misty called him. When they couldn’t find Haleigh, they called 911. A massive search for the girl failed to find her.

‘Nobody’s business’
Vieira asked Ron Cummings why he would get married now, with so much attention on the couple and the missing girl.

“I think that my little girl would have wanted it,” he said before repeating his belief that his wedding shouldn’t be a story.

“That’s still drawing the focus off of Haleigh,” he said. “We need to be focused on Haleigh and not what I’m doing in my personal life … It’s nobody’s business what I do in my personal life. I go to work. I support my family. I don’t know what my personal life has to do with national TV. My daughter’s missing. That’s what has to do with national TV. We need to get her found.”

Vieira asked Ron Cummings if he had anything else he wanted to say.

“If you know something, please call the Crime Stoppers or any local sheriff’s office,” he said, his arms crossed tightly across his chest. “If my little girl is watching, baby, I love you.”

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/13/2542705-still-missing-haleigh-has-a-new-stepmom

[Faith]

Haleigh Cummings: My Interview With TJ Hart
Posted on April 27th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Florida News, Op-ed
Read 440 times.

Gainesville, Florida- My dear friend Mr. Hart has been gracious enough to do a interview with me. Over the phone of course. I had some questions about the Haleigh Cummings case, also I wanted to do something neat for those who read my articles. I love you all. We kept the pleasantries short due to us already knowing each other.

Dashing as always, Mr. Hart is a fountain of information always useful for my little articles. He is also useful in so many more ways. He is out tirelessly searching for the truth in the disapparance of Haleigh Cummings. He is spending his own time and self powers to search for the truth. He is working with William “Cobra” Staubs the bounty hunter also searching for the truth in Haleigh’s disappearance. Cobra is also putting in, tireless hours using his own resources to search for Haleigh.

Thank you Mr. Hart for your valiant efforts in finding the truth we all long for. I long for Haleigh to come home and see her grandma’s to see her Jr. to see her mother, her father. I long for that, many of us do. Mr. Hart what you are doing on the ground for Haleigh should be commended. Cobra too all for the love of a child. I cannot begin to thank you enough for not giving up.

Now that I have gotten to the pleasantries that was shorted on during our interview. My interview with Mr. Hart was a few questions that I have felt I need more answer to. We all need some more answers and Mr. Hart’s answers are much better then the shutting doors we would get from law enforcement in the case. Lets get dirty.

S: Do you see any progress being made in the case?

TJ: Yes I do but only from a investigative end. Law enforcement not sharing information. My team is working on 4 possibilities leads Haleigh has been stolen, Haleigh has been sold, Haleigh is dead, Haleigh has been taken by a well-intended person who did not calculate his/her actions to it’s logical conclusion: Police, FBI, FDLE and local and national TV, Radio and Internet coverage

S: Do you feel any of the main characters surrounding Haleigh’s disappearance are involved in any way?

TJ: Yes

S: Do you sense Ronald Cummings is what he portrays himself to be?

TJ: For the most part

S: Do you sense Crystal Sheffield is what she portrays herself to be?

TJ: For the most part

S: You have been working with Cobra correct?

TJ: Yes and with the community.

S: What does Cobra bring to the search?

TJ: Urgency, commitment, a real gedderdone attitude.

S: Is the “black man” still a hotpoint in the investigation?

TJ: Yes as a person who could point investigators in the right direction.

S: Does Greg Page have anything to do with the identity of the “black man”?

TJ: NO

S: Do you know anything about the recent sightings of Haleigh?

TJ: False sightings, not Haleigh

S: Do you see any progress for a timeline from Misty’s interrogations?

TJ: None released recently

S: Do you believe Amber and Nay Nay hold clues to Haleigh’s disappearance?

TJ: I think so

S: Do you think there lifestyles are a factor in this case?

TJ: I believe it’s a great factor.

S: Has the search for Haleigh cooled off amongst the community

TJ: NO people still have there find Haleigh posters they have signs on there cars and the Haleigh Bug Headquarters is up and running.

S: Who does Cobra work for?

TJ: Himself

S: Does your’s and Cobra’s efforts have law enforcement and FBI acknowledgement?

TJ: They know im reporting Cobra’s investigation as an observer. Cobra is the licensed bounty hunter/bondsmen. Yes they are well aware.

S: From what you have seen is there a dangerous element to these characters lifestyles?

TJ: Yes very much so

S: Do you think Ron is involved in the same activites Amber and Nay Nay are involved in?

TJ: Not the same but similiar, Ron has rough friends

S: Is it true Cobra bailed Amber and Nay Nay out of jail? Who paid for it?

TJ: Yes, I dont know who’s money it was.

S: Do you think Misty is the key to Haleigh’s disappearance?

TJ: Last one to see her, key player

S: Do you think she is hiding anything?

TJ: Yes

S: Does the cousin Joe play a role in this case?

TJ: Yes

S: Have there been any foot searches by groups of volunteers recently?

TJ: Mrs. Nevis has asked me and Cobra to come to Satsuma and search the woods near the trailer.

S: What is the general attitude from law enforcement towards the characters involved in the case?

TJ: They dont like talking about them

S: What was the blue van with a scratch in it about? Or was it more nonsense?

TJ: Nonsense it was taken into evidence processed and released.

S: Do you see Ron as having a short fuse?

TJ: YES

S: Are there any prior to disappearance open files against Ron in DCF

TJ: Yes a handful, all from Crystal trying to regain custody of children.

S: Do you believe the photos of Haleigh and Jr. with bruises are parental abuse?

TJ: NO

S: Do you feel any closer to the truth in Haleigh’s disappearance?

TJ: Yes, its so confounded and complicated we are not dealing with methodical person who is using normal rational thought.

S: Is the investigation hot or cold?

TJ: HOT

Thank you once again Mr. Hart for taking time from your busy life to spend some time with me answering questions. I am in debt to you sir. Thank you William Cobra Stuabs for your efforts and endless search for this precious child who has touched all of our hearts. Haleigh is fortunate to have you both seeking for the truth that seems impossible to obtain. Your efforts are a blessing to us all.

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If I did this wrong, delete it ok Faith? ;)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/05/ng.01.html


Misty Croslin Heads to Orlando Again

Aired October 5, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


MIKE BROOKS, GUEST HOST: Breaking news tonight. To Satsuma, Florida, where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings gets tucked into bed. Just five hours later, she`s gone, the back door wide open. Last person to see little Haleigh alive that night, stepmom Misty Croslin.

Tonight, we`ve just confirmed Haleigh`s stepmom-slash-baby-sitter- slash-new wife Misty Croslin skips town again -- that`s right, again -- this time headed to Orlando with a female friend. Why? We also learn Misty still has not spoken to police since she`s been back from her last out-of-town trip. All this as Misty`s mom is now in a Florida jail. Has she finally talked to police? What does she really know?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S BABY-SITTER/STEPMOTHER: They go out and look for that person, maybe they -- they would be -- have the answers. But they`re trying get all the answers from me that I don`t have.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huge bombshells in the search for Haleigh Cummings, as tensions rise. Nancy Grace confirms new wife-slash-baby- sitter Misty Croslin has left Satsuma, Florida, again, now for a second time, this time heading to Orlando with a girlfriend. Why? What is Misty hiding?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What Misty needs to do is come forth and tell the truth, and she`s obviously not doing that because there are inconsistencies in her very self-serving story. And the truth doesn`t have versions, at least not coming from one person.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty Croslin still hasn`t spoken with police since her last trip out of town. Why not?

CROSLIN: ... answer any questions I have to because I know I didn`t do anything to that little girl. I would never hurt her.

NANCY GRACE, HOST, "NANCY GRACE": Miss Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together.

TERESA NEVES, HALEIGH`S PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All this while Misty`s mom now sits in a Florida jail cell, extradited from Tennessee after being arrested for allegedly stealing checks. Now that she`s back in Florida, have police questioned her about Haleigh?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re going to have to come up with enough evidence or she`s going to have to get an overwhelming amount of fear or pressure from her family to come clean. Otherwise, she`s just going to hide and run, like she`s doing right now.

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: I`m not hiding anything for anybody. And if somebody had something to do with it, let them fry. So be it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKS: And tonight, breaking news, to Kansas. A beautiful teen girl vanishes. Police say she`s in danger. Eighteen-year-old coed Keighley Ann Alyea disappears just after witnessing a violent fight between her friend and her ex-boyfriend. In the last hours, cops find Keighley`s car just five miles from her home, but no Keighley. Law enforcement searching for clues. Tonight, where is 18-year-old Keighley?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A beautiful teen girl simply vanishes into thin air, and tonight Kansas police looking for your help. Eighteen-year-old Keighley Ann Alyea last seen in her own home. Police say they`re urgently concerned because just days ago, Keighley witnessed a fight between a friend and that friend`s brother, which escalated until the police were called. The friend`s brother is Keighley`s ex-boyfriend.

KELLY BASTEL, MOTHER OF MISSING TEEN: My gut`s not telling me good things right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Since reporting her missing, Keighley Alyea`s family`s been worried sick.

PAT HAYES, FATHER OF MISSING TEEN: I`ve been through a lot of things in my life, and I can honestly say I`ve never felt this way before.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police, unable to locate Keighley, have tracked down her vehicle about five miles away from her own home, that green Mazda now being processed for evidence. Police hit a dead end checking Keighley`s cell phone activity, as three men have been questioned and released in the desperate race against time to find Keighley.

HAYES: It`s just like there`s a huge part of me that`s missing, and it`s not going to be right until I find it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKS: Good evening. I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Tonight, we just confirmed Haleigh Cummings`s stepmom-slash-baby-sitter-slash-new wife Misty Croslin Cummings skips town again. That`s right, again. This time, she`s headed to Orlando with a female friend.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, let me talk to your wife. Let me get some information from her.

CUMMINGS: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. Can I talk to her?

CUMMINGS: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CUMMINGS: How the (DELETED) can you let my daughter get stole (DELETED)?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news. Shocking developments in the case of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. After weeks of rising tensions, stepmom Misty Croslin leaves town and comes back. But now Nancy Grace confirms Misty has left town again, this time with a female friend to Orlando. What`s going on?

GRACE: She doesn`t have a job. Ronald Cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter, he has been let go from his job. How does she manage to stay down at Disney World for a week?

CUMMINGS: We need to find my daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Do you think Misty holds some information that could help do that?

CUMMINGS: I don`t think that she holds any information that`s going to find Haleigh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty still hasn`t spoken to police since she`s returned from her last trip out of town. Why not? When will the last known person to see Haleigh finally talk again?

CROSLIN: If I had something to do with it, I knew where she was, we wouldn`t be sitting here today, we would have her!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It may very well be she doesn`t know what happened to the little girl that night, But that doesn`t mean that she was there or wasn`t there.

GRACE: Now that you`ve been told, whether you accept it or not, that your wife has flunked a poly, have you asked her what happened?

CUMMINGS: I asked her, but I don`t get any answers.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKS: OK. Gone again. Where is Misty Croslin Cummings now? Is she on a vacation? I doubt it. She doesn`t have a job, no income. What is going on down in Satsuma, or Orlando?

I want to go straight out to Marlaina Schiavo, NANCY GRACE producer, on the scene there in Florida. Marlaina, come on, what is going on now?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Mike, I mean, the tensions are rising between Ronald and Misty. She`s taken off again. She needs her space. Now, we know that the investigation has heated up...

BROOKS: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait! She needs her space?

SCHIAVO: You got it. She needs some space, Mike. She -- you know, a couple weeks ago, the investigation was kicking up again. We saw a lot going on. There was a draining of a pond. There were allegations against Misty. She was failing these polygraphs. And you know, she took off. She went to Orlando. She got some space from Ronald. She came back last week. But now, Mike, she`s gone again. She`s back -- she`s on her way back to Orlando with her friend.

BROOKS: OK. Who is this friend of hers that she`s on her vacation, walkabout, whatever you want to talk -- whatever you want to call it? Who is this friend?

SCHIAVO: It`s a girlfriend of hers, Mike. It`s a person she`s met somewhat recently in the past year that she`s become close with. And it`s someone who is helping her out right now during this rough time.

BROOKS: Now, I know it`s a rough time. You know, she disappeared -- little -- little -- the bottom line is, where is little Haleigh right now? She doesn`t have a job, no income that I know of. Help me out there if you know of any job she`s got or how she`s earning any money. Maybe she`s down in Orlando sitting by the interstate with a little cup in her hand, you know, and a little sign, hopefully, Help find Haleigh.

Also joining us there in Florida is Teresa Neves. She is the grandmother of the missing 6-year-old, Haleigh Cummings, and father -- and mother of father Ronald. Ms. Neves, thanks for joining us again.

NEVES: Thank you for having me.

BROOKS: Look, what is going on with this family feud? And I`m not talking about the TV program.

NEVES: OK. Which family are you speaking about?

BROOKS: With the Cummings family. You know, with Ronald and Misty. What is going on down there?

NEVES: There`s a lot of tension. It`s a very tough strain on a relationship when there is something that you think maybe needs to be told and you`re not getting that information. You know, it puts a very big strain on a relationship.

BROOKS: Recently, you spoke to Nancy, and she says -- and I have to agree with her -- the facts of what`s going on and her actions, everything just doesn`t fit together.

NEVES: I agree with you. It does not fit together like it should. And we are working to cure that, I hope.

BROOKS: I want to go to Ellie Jostad, NANCY GRACE producer, joining us from New York in the control room. Ellie, when is the last time that Misty Croslin held a job and was making any kind of money?

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, that`s a good question, Mike. We don`t know of any jobs that she`s held recently. And as we explained earlier, her family is out of jobs. Ron Cummings has lost his job because he`s been looking for Haleigh. I don`t know where the money is coming from.

BROOKS: Ms. Neves, how is your son, Ronald, supporting himself, and how is Misty supporting herself now, you know, and -- and -- and her son?

NEVES: Ronald received unemployment from his time, and Misty is -- the friend that she`s staying with tends to pay for everything, so...

BROOKS: Is she independently wealthy?

NEVES: I think that maybe her husband is independently wealthy.

BROOKS: OK. So Ellie, is she staying with this woman in Orlando, or is she staying at a Disney hotel somewhere?

JOSTAD: You know, that`s not really clear, exactly where she`s staying. Now, the last time she was in Orlando, she was spotted at Universal. Apparently, she was taking in the sights there, but she did have on a, you know, Where is Haleigh, button while she was there.

BROOKS: Oh, that -- you know what? I`m glad she had on that, Where is Haleigh, button. So she`s out at Disney World on vacation from a job that she doesn`t have, and she`s just kind of hanging out just to kind of get away.

Let`s unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom joining us from Atlanta, prosecutor in a nearby county just outside the city, Peter Odom, defense attorney, and Alex Sanchez, noted defense attorney out of New York.

Alex, if Misty -- she`s got an attorney. If Misty is your client, what are you telling her? Are you telling her, Hey, why don`t you go on down, cool your heels down in Orlando, you know, take in the sights, enjoy yourself, while her daughter`s still missing?

ALEX SANCHEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know, I`ll tell you the truth, I`m mystified at the criticism that you`re leveling against her. She`s 17 years old. For months, she`s been under the scrutiny of the police. What is wrong with her going down to Orlando, even if it`s for a few days to take some vacation...

BROOKS: Alex...

SANCHEZ: ... and clear her head? And maybe when she comes back, maybe she will be prepared to speak to the police...

BROOKS: But -- but -- OK, well...

SANCHEZ: ... and reveal some important information.

BROOKS: Well, ask me -- answer me this. If she is so concerned about finding her stepdaughter and she`s the last one that had -- that knows where -- that -- who was with Haleigh at the time, why isn`t she here talking to police out there looking for her stepdaughter?

SANCHEZ: Because she has answered every single question that could possibly have been leveled at her at this point. There`s no additional questions I think the police could ask her.

BROOKS: Oh!

SANCHEZ: She`s gone there. She needs to clear her head. And I think it`s in the police -- in the advantage of the investigation for her to go there and maybe speak to a friend and come back and say, You know what? I want to reveal more information.

BROOKS: OK, well...

SANCHEZ: What`s wrong with that, Mike?

BROOKS: But did she do that the last time she was down there? No.

SANCHEZ: Well, hopefully...

BROOKS: No. Did she do that? No, she didn`t.

SANCHEZ: Well, hopefully, she`ll do it now.

BROOKS: We`re going -- we`re going to -- we`re going to talk more about why she`s on vacation when we get back.

SANCHEZ: But as we go to break right now, a special get well tonight to Nancy`s mom, Elizabeth. Nancy`s not here with us tonight because she`s at the hospital with her mother. Mrs. Grace, everyone at the show wishes you a speedy recovery, and you`re in our thoughts and prayers.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we need is for Misty to come down here and tell us the truth.

CROSLIN: I`m trying to do everything to find her, you know, answer any questions I have to, because I know I didn`t do anything to that little girl.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty can relieve this pressure by telling her attorney that, you know, We need to go down to the sheriff`s office and really lay out in clear terms what I was doing from 8:00 PM until 3:00 AM.

GRACE: Do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, Ronald?

CUMMINGS: Absolutely not.

GRACE: You stand very strongly behind Misty Croslin`s story. What do you make of police saying that she has the answers?

NEVES: I have to leave the investigative part of this to law enforcement because, you know, if I go with every whim and every accusation, then I`m going to be flipping back and forth in my life. And you know, what we stand -- you know, we just stand for Haleigh here. We just want Haleigh to come home. And I want them to find whoever this is. And I don`t care who it is, but we want Haleigh to come home!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. OK, help us answer this question. Where is Haleigh Cummings? Where is stepmom Misty? She`s in Florida with her friend at Disney World in Orlando. She`s not at home in Satsuma. She`s not there looking for Haleigh, handing out flyers. She`s not helping Ronald look for -- her father -- her husband and Haleigh`s father look for her -- look for little Haleigh. She`s down cooling her heels because she needed to get away.

We`re taking your calls live. Straight out to Lakisha in Indiana. Lakisha, thank you for joining us.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Mike. How are you doing tonight?

BROOKS: Good, thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you for covering for Nancy. All her viewers wish her mom to get better.

BROOKS: We all do. We were -- she`s in our -- soon as we heard this today -- you know, Nancy always says prayers work, and they do. We need your prayers, also.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe in God totally.

BROOKS: Thanks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Without God, nothing`s possible.

BROOKS: Absolutely.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You answered my question when you spoke with his mom, Ms. Neves, about where Misty was at and if her and Ronald was arguing. But I was wondering about the letter that was written by someone that was sent out from the jail. I was wondering if law enforcement investigated that letter that was taken to the newspaper company.

BROOKS: Yes, Marlaina, there was this mystery letter that came about. What do we know about that letter? It was very strange. It was to "The St. Augustine Record." Can you tell us about that?

SCHIAVO: Yes. That letter, Mike, came from a party friend of Misty`s. It`s a girl who knew Misty and was partying with her right before Haleigh went missing. And what the -- the contents of the letter had something to do with the night that Haleigh went missing. Now, police have investigated it, and for the most part, nothing really came of that letter at all.

BROOKS: Ellie, there was also a mystery letter.

JOSTAD: Right.

BROOKS: What do we know -- I mean, very, very strange. It was basically -- it says -- and I`m reading right from -- right from the -- right from the note -- "Check the back of father`s mobile home. From the right end of the mobile home extending out, continue for 540 yards straight, and at that point, go north 12 yards, dig two-and-a-half to three feet. Will strike metal covering an old well. Inside, check black plastic garbage bag. Circumstances extend statewide and beyond." And it`s signed capital S-A-M. What is this?

JOSTAD: Right. Well, Mike, this letter was dropped off by a woman who walked into "The St. Augustine Record." They caught her on surveillance video. She was a blond woman wearing blue scrubs. They eventually -- after this video was aired on TV, the woman came in and identified herself, said she was just the messenger, however, that she was dropping off this letter from a man who is in his 80s. She said he`s a former FBI informant, that this guy has special information and that he was able to give her this very detailed letter.

Now, police did check it out. They did go search this area, and they didn`t find anything. But they still want to talk to this man, if he exists, and find out what he really knows.

BROOKS: Did they drill this woman? I mean, did they really talk to her, finding out what her relationship is with this guy? And you know, having been -- having been, you know, assigned with the FBI for six years, I can tell you, it`s pretty easy, if she knows his name or have an address, to find out whether or not this guy truly is an FBI informant. We call them -- they are called serialized...

JOSTAD: Right.

BROOKS: ... because when you`re informing for the FBI, you come in, you get fingerprinted, you get photographed, and they do a background check on you. So they`d know whether or not this is true.

JOSTAD: Right. Right.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH`S MOTHER: Her story`s changed several times. And I know my kids did love her. They told me that. And I just hope she would not have nothing to do with this.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: We need to get her date of birth.

CROSLIN: What`s her date of birth?

CUMMINGS: (DELETED) her birthday! We need to find her!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CROSLIN: They haven`t left me alone for six months. I`ve been the one, the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.

CUMMINGS: I`m not hiding anything for anybody. And if somebody had something to do with it, let them fry.

NEVES: I believe Haleigh is alive. I have faith in God to take care of my baby girl and find her. And I don`t care who had something to do with it, those are the people who need to be put away and bring my baby girl home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Well, little Haleigh Cummings is still gone, vanished in the middle of the night. And the one woman that I think holds the key to finding her is down in Orlando again, vacationing or getting away with a girlfriend of hers.

I want to go back out to our attorneys, Eleanor Odom, Peter Odom, Alex Sanchez. Eleanor, with her going away now for the second time -- and when she got back the first time, didn`t go with her attorney over to talk to police. You know, as a prosecutor, this doesn`t look good for her.

ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: No, it doesn`t. And why is she going out of town? What`s the motivation? I mean, I`ve had a rough day at work, but I don`t get to go to Disney World and have a good time. But look at some interesting things. The very first thing I`d look at is how Ronald referred to her when he made that 911 call and said, What did you do with her? And then how she failed the polygraph. Her story`s wishy-washy. She`s traveled. She won`t answer questions. All those things look very suspicious.

BROOKS: Yes, you know, and also the initial police report that I`ve always said -- you know, he called -- he came home, and the whole timing of everything was -- as a former investigator, was very suspicious to me, too. And he just happened to say, Oh, yes, and my dumb "B" word wife.

Peter, I know you used to be a prosecutor, now a defense attorney. I asked Alex. I want to ask you. Would you tell your -- would you tell your client, if Misty was your client, Stay in town, cooperate with police, or go on down to Disney World, relax?

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Mike, she`s not a person of interest. She`s not a suspect. You know what I`m telling this kid?

BROOKS: Well, first of all...

(CROSSTALK)

PETER ODOM: Go and live your life. Go and live your life.

BROOKS: First of all, person of interest -- you know, as far as I`m concerned, either you`re a suspect or not. She hasn`t been named. But when you fail, what, three polygraphs now, two from law enforcement, one private polygraph...

PETER ODOM: And not a shred of evidence, after all that, that she did anything wrong.

BROOKS: Oh! OK.

PETER ODOM: She`s a citizen who has the right to go anywhere she wants, and I would tell her, Misty, go and live your life and don`t...

BROOKS: She`s the one that holds the key to what happened that night, period!

PETER ODOM: And she`s told the police everything, Mike.

BROOKS: No, she hasn`t!

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I want to get to the bottom of what happened. I don`t know if hypnosis is going to do it. They already tried to hypnotize her.

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Aren`t you of the mind that you should try anything?

R. CUMMINGS: Absolutely. If that`s what we need to do, then that`s what we can do.

MISTY CROSLIN-CUMMINGS, RONALD CUMMING`S WIFE, LAST SEEN HALEIGH: I wish they could have took me instead of her. You know, because I could have fought. You know, she`s only 5. She can`t really do anything.

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOM OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Everything she says is crazy.

M. CUMMINGS: I don`t know where she is.

TERESA NEVES, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD, HALEIGH CUMMINGS: We would love to have a break in this case, and we really would not care who it implicates as long as it brings Haleigh back to us.

GRACE: What is her story about what happened that night?

R. CUMMINGS: The same thing that she`s telling police, or whoever, that she put Haleigh to bed, done some laundry, went to bed, and woke up to the door propped open.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Investigators have received well over 4,000 tips so far.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You never know when the one`s going to come in that will make the case. Our main goal is the same main goal, and that`s to find Haleigh and get her home.

NEVES: I do not think that that many people, with a $70,000 reward, are going to sit at home and not say anything. Anything that would bring Haleigh home, that`s what we want.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was the bed made?

M. CUMMINGS: No. I was sleeping in that bed. How would the bed be made if someone`s sleeping in the bed? I wasn`t the only one sleeping in it. But how would it -- me and his son. How would the bed be made if we were in the bed sleeping?

They`ve been on me for six months. They haven`t left me alone for six months. I`ve been the one, the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE BROOKS, GUEST HOST: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace, and we`re taking your calls live. Right now I want to go back out to Teresa Neves, grandmother of missing Haleigh Cummings.

Miss Neves, when is the last time Ronald spoke with Misty?

NEVES: Today.

BROOKS: And what did she have to say?

NEVES: About what?

BROOKS: About what`s going on with her, when she`s coming back, if she`s going to talk to police when she comes back.

NEVES: She has not made any arrangements to talk to police as far as I know. I know that we have encouraged her to do so, Ronald has encouraged her to do so, and right now I don`t know what her return plans are.

BROOKS: No -- so right now what you`re saying is she`s not -- there`s no plans for her to come back to Satsuma at all right now?

NEVES: Well, no, I`m not saying that. I mean.

BROOKS: OK.

NEVES: She`s not gone forever, I`m sure.

BROOKS: So when is she coming back? But, you know, I mean...

NEVES: No, I can`t.

BROOKS: Ronald didn`t talk to her to say, hey, you know, when are you coming back to go to talk to police?

NEVES: Ronald may have said that. I cannot tell you. I do not live with Ronald or Misty. I do know that when she left -- you know, I mean, before she left we have all encouraged her.

BROOKS: Yes.

NEVES: . to speak with the police. So.

BROOKS: And I know, you know, the main thing here that we want, Miss Neves, and please understand this, is to get little Haleigh back alive.

NEVES: Absolutely.

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Croslin and Cummings File for Divorce

Aired October 14, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET


In the last hours, Croslin and Cummings file divorce papers in a Florida court. What does it mean to the investigation? Croslin claims the holes in her story have nothing to do with the split. But have Cummings`s worst fears been confirmed, that his new wife, Misty Croslin, implicated in the disappearance of his own 5-year-old girl?

GRACE: Straight out to Art Harris at Artharris.com. I understand this is your story that you break, that the wingman, the so-called friend that went to Orlando and flew to New York with Misty Croslin, was actually undercover? Explain.

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: That`s right, Nancy. Donna Brock, who is a volunteer for Texas Equusearch, according to Tim Miller, was working all the time to get close to Misty so she could possibly glean information about what Misty may know happened to Haleigh. This was not known to police per se. She was not a, quote, "agent" of police. But she was working for Texas Equusearch in an attempt to find out what she could learn by getting close to Misty.

GRACE: OK. All right. Where all did Donna Brock go with Misty Croslin? Where did they travel?

HARRIS: Nancy, she picked her up in Satsuma and they went to Orlando. They wound up at Universal, Cocoa Beach. They were on the road when everyone thought Misty was on the run. But Tim Miller was wiring money for her to take Misty to get her hair done, her nails done, to try to get close to her. And Misty was really warming up very closely to Donna. So this was something that was working until the road rage incident outed them both.

GRACE: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you telling me that the so-called undercover friend was the friend in the road rage incident that was driving?

HARRIS: That`s correct, Nancy. They were off driving down highway -- Interstate 4 when, according to Tim Miller, someone tried to run them off the road. Donna Brock pulls along the car and gave this driver the finger. Then Misty gives them the finger, and that is when...

GRACE: Yes, I`ve heard the whole thing.

HARRIS: You`ve heard the story.

GRACE: And I interviewed the woman who called the cops. Now, Art -- put him up again. Art, you`re trying to tell me they were the victims? How come it was the other lady, the pharmaceutical sales rep, that called police to rat herself out?

HARRIS: Well, that`s...

GRACE: That doesn`t even make sense.

HARRIS: Well, it`s a good -- sure. I mean, Nancy, it depends how threatened did Donna Brock, the driver, feel. She didn`t feel threatened enough to call the police. But according to her, it was the other driver who...

GRACE: OK. Hold on.

HARRIS: ... forced her off the road.

GRACE: Before we go off on the road rage incident, I want to get back to this.

To Marlaina Schiavo, our producer on the story. Did it work? Did Donna Brock get anything out of Croslin?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Unfortunately, Nancy, it didn`t work at all. All that happened, at this point, was that she got to travel around with Misty and get to know her a little better. And all she could gather was that Misty has a sort of temper that no one has seen. But other than that, there`s been no new information that came from this new friendship.

GRACE: What do you mean by temper?

SCHIAVO: Well, apparently, you know, she had witnessed a couple of conversations that Misty had while they were on the road, with Ronald. And apparently, she got really, really hostile with Ronald at times, and she witnessed her just not -- not being very even-tempered.

GRACE: And to top it all off, while Ronald Cummings has publicly stood beside his new bride, Misty Croslin, now we learn of threats? Art Harris, what can you tell us?

HARRIS: That`s right, Nancy. Tim Miller went back to the house where Ron was living with Misty and tells me that Ronald took an assault rifle from his closet, had 32 -- had two clips, 32 bullets in each, and he threatened to blow Misty`s teeth through the back of her head and then kill himself and take others out with him if, in fact, he learned she had anything to do with Haleigh.

That`s when he got -- he became afraid that if anything happened to Misty, the case would go down the tubes and they would never find out what happened to Haleigh, since police believe she`s holding a lot more information than she`s revealing. So that`s when he came up with this undercover mama (ph) idea to let Donna Brock go on the road with Misty to see what she could get from her and get her away from Ronald Cummings.

GRACE: To Mark Nejame, attorney for Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch. Your client is certainly up in the investigation, hiring someone and paying a woman to go undercover to get the truth out of Misty Croslin. And when he says he observed Ronald Cummings, with a weapon, I thought the cops took all of the weapons out of the home the night Haleigh went missing.

MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER: Yes, I think if Tim had an opportunity to do a do-over on this, he would have. What ended up happening is, is that he did tell the police about this, but at the time, the focus was on her polygraph, her voice stress analysis, the hypnosis, all of which failed. So he let them know. But a month or so later, everybody said, Whoa, there`s a rifle in that, you know, closet and there`s another child in the house. But at the time, the focus was really on, you know, what is Misty holding back and what is she not telling everybody?

GRACE: Thank you. What`s your question, dear?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think Misty`s stories don`t jibe because I think she`s learning disabled.

GRACE: Now, why do you say that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Remember the 911 call, when they asked for her address?

GRACE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She gave the street. The 911 operator asked for the numerical, and she said, What`s that?

GRACE: OK, to Ellie Jostad, our chief editorial producer, who`s been on the story from the very beginning. Is there any sign that she is disabled? If she is disabled, she`s somehow managed to throw off the cops now for about nine months.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes, well, no reports like that, Nancy. However, we do know that Misty Croslin, although she`s only 17 years old, has dropped out of school, has not gone to school for some time, some reports suggesting she dropped out as early as after the 6th grade.

GRACE: What about it, Art Harris? Is that true?

HARRIS: Nancy, I have spoken to her grandmother, Flora Hallers (ph), in Nashville, Tennessee, who raised her during those very crucial years of grammar school, 6th grade. She said she had a very hard time with her homework. She had to sit down with Misty, and Misty begged her to help her. Only the grandmother had had a hard time, too. It had been a long time since she`d been in school. She says she does have learning disabilities, and her parents did not make her go to school. So this is, you know, a young women, young girl who has not had the best education, Nancy.

GRACE: Out to Peggy, Washington state. Hi, Peggy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi Nancy. I just want to say I love your show the best because there`s never any of this political stuff on it. It`s just interesting things.

GRACE: Peggy, thank you very much. I absolutely do not like politics. I don`t believe either side, the Republicans, the Democrats. I think they`re all lying, OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Me, too!

GRACE: There you have it. What`s your question, love?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was (INAUDIBLE) wanting to ask you, back when Haleigh was first discovered missing, and it was, like, close to a week, I think, that two cadaver dogs hit on the dumpster that was, like...

GRACE: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What I thought at the time and I`ve never heard -- when did the dumpster get emptied? I mean...

GRACE: Right. Right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... these dogs usually are right.

GRACE: I remember that. What about it, Ellie?

JOSTAD: Well, Nancy, we did hear reports that the dumpster -- there was a hit by the cadaver dogs on the dumpster. They apparently thoroughly checked out the dumpster. They weren`t able to find anything there, any signs of DNA, blood, anything like that. I believe they also went and checked the dump where that dumpster would be emptied and didn`t find anything there, either.

GRACE: I believe the dumpster had been emptied, like, two days before?

JOSTAD: Right. That sounds right.

GRACE: To Mike Brooks. Mike, what do you make of the divorce? And in your experience at handling so many cases like that, how, if at all, will it affect the investigation?

MIKE BROOKS, FORMER D.C. POLICE, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: You know, if at all, Nancy, I think it could help the investigation because, you know, Ronald -- the whole relationship right from the very beginning has been tumultuous from the time that he was -- the police report was taken. So maybe now that, you know, Ronald`s not there to protect her, if you will, maybe she`ll open up. But instead of going up to the morning show at CBS, she should have been with Putnam County sheriff`s, talking to them about where Haleigh is, period!


GRACE: Joining me right now president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation, Marc Klaas is with us.

Marc, you went through much the same thing when your daughter Polly went missing many years ago. How do you compare all of these people`s behavior to what you think should be the gold standard?

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, first of all, I didn`t have somebody like Tim Miller come in and play dangerously with the lives of my family, insert his amateurs in and betray us on a variety of levels time after time.

These are very vulnerable people that we`re dealing with right here. There`s a little girl that`s missing. He`s supposed to be running a search operation. I ran a search operation, but you know what? He`s putting us in jeopardy. He`s putting me, he`s putting every other organization that runs a legitimate search operation in jeopardy, because we require the trust and cooperation of law enforcement and the family whenever we get called in to one of these cases.

And he`s just breaking that down. If I were the Putnam County Sheriff, I would consider arresting Tim Miller for interfering in an investigation. I`m absolutely outraged by the things that I have heard tonight.

Now before anybody gets too far off on Misty here, and I quite frankly don`t totally believe her story either, but let`s remember, my daughter Polly was kidnapped in her bedroom while her mother slept soundly only 10 feet away. Exactly the same thing happened to Elizabeth Smart and to Daniel Van Dam. Entire families slept through these kidnappings. So it`s preposterous as her story may be, it`s not utterly impossible.

GRACE: What about it, Mark Nejame. You`re the attorney for Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch. How did he come up with the concept, Mark Nejame, in response to Marc Klaas` questioning, to plant someone under cover against Misty Croslin.

MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: As outrageous as Mr. Klaas` statements. Tim Miller is here to help find the missing people.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Right. If you could just.

NEJAME: Today he found 102 person.

GRACE: If you could just focus on the question.

NEJAME: And he`s found his 102nd person today. You think outside the box. Law enforcement was at a dead end. Every effort being made to find this child who`s either dead or missing was utilized. And to find the child, you use any legal means necessary.

There`s not a rule book that says you can only do it one way. He should be applauded for doing whatever it took to help find a missing or a dead child. To be criticized for that is wrong and outrageous.

GRACE: I want to go to Ellie Jostad, our producer on the story.

Ellie, I want to go back also to what Ronald Cummings allegedly said.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Right.

GRACE: Publicly, he stands beside his new bride, Misty Croslin. But, privately, according to sources being Miller.

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: He threatened to blow her head off if she was involved? That doesn`t sound like he believes her story.

JOSTAD: Right. Right. He did say that -- he said, according to Tim Miller. Tim Miller said that Ronald Cummings said that he would blow Misty Croslin`s teeth out through the back of her head if he found out she did it.

Now Ron Cummings` lawyer said that Ron does not remember making these statements. But if he did, it was similar to that 911 call, it was an emotional statement he said when he was very upset. Similar on the how 911 call he said if I find whoever did this, I`m going to kill them, I don`t care if I go to prison.

GRACE: What about it, psychologist Caryn Stark, joining us from New York? Weigh in, Caryn.

CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: I`ll tell you, Nancy. Somebody may be very emotionally upset, but they don`t necessarily start telling people that they are going to kill them or that they`re going to blow their teeth in or any of that stuff is going to happen.

So I really think that this is such a travesty and such a circus that I`m waiting for the acrobats to come in. It`s one ridiculous story on top of the other. It`s all very ludicrous. And what about Haleigh? Isn`t she supposed to be the focus? Not the fact that Misty is covering up and not telling anybody anything.

Someone should be really, really paying attention to what happened to her. What can we do to find out about her? And forget about all of -- who`s killing whom and everybody blaming everybody else.

GRACE: To Art Harris at www.artharris.com. He`s been there in Satsuma for weeks on end investigating the story, what, if any, difference will the divorce make? In the last hours they have filed for divorce in a Florida courthouse.

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, ARTHARRIS.COM, INTERVIEWED MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S NEW STEPMOM: Nancy, it is keeping Misty on edge and that is hopefully what the police are counting on to perhaps get, you know, some cooperation. I can tell you that she has met with police with this undercover friend and I`m told they told her, warned her that she could get life in prison if they are able to make a case against her.

LENA: I was just wondering, when Misty`s brother went to the charter that night, if she -- I mean he said that he knocked on one door and couldn`t get a response. Did he not go to the other door? Wouldn`t people naturally check the other door?

GRACE: Good question. Marlaina Schiavo?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: He did not go to the second door, Nancy. He only knocked on the front door, according to him.


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Ronald and Misty`s Divorce Finalized

Aired October 16, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET

BROOKS: Good evening. I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Are the house of cards finally falling down? A Florida judge signs off on the divorce of Haleigh`s dad and the last person to see the little girl alive. Will Ronald Cummings finally break his silence about the holes in Misty`s story?

BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Well, the bottom line here is, folks, it`s been a seven-month marriage between Ronald and Misty. But the question remains, Where is that little beautiful baby girl, Haleigh?

I want to go straight out to NANCY GRACE producer Marlaina Schiavo, who has been on this case from the very beginning. Marlaina, what`s the very latest that`s going on in Satsuma, Florida, right now?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Mike, the divorce between Misty and Ronald is finalized. And what does this mean? Well, it means a few things. Will Ronald finally come clean and tell us what he really feels about what Misty`s been saying all along? Will he admit the doubts that he has about Misty? But also, Mike, we learned today, right before we go to air, that Misty is now being represented again by her attorney and...

BROOKS: Well, wait a minute. This is the same guy that she just dropped after her appearance on one of the morning shows, and he says, Hey, I don`t want you anymore, you`re on your own because you won`t do what I tell you to do? Same guy?

SCHIAVO: Same guy, Robert Fields. And you know what? He sent an e- mail today to Ronald`s attorney saying that he does not want Ronald speaking to Misty without the attorneys involved. All communication now has to go through the lawyers.

BROOKS: That`s very interesting. You know what? Joining us tonight is Brandon Beardsley, the attorney for Ronald Cummings, joining us from St. Augustine, Florida. Mr. Beardsley, thanks for being with us.

BRANDON BEARDSLEY, ATTORNEY FOR RONALD CUMMINGS: It`s my pleasure, sir.

BROOKS: What is this -- what is -- what is this memo?

BEARDSLEY: It wasn`t really a memo. He just -- you know, we communicate a lot through e-mail. It`s a lot easier. And he just sent me an e-mail and requested that all communication between Ronald and Misty be cut off and that anything needs to go through him.

BROOKS: What does Ronald think about this?

BEARDSLEY: Ronald`s fine with it. I mean, if that`s what her attorney wants and that`s what Misty wants, he has no problem with it. I mean, they`re divorced. Their marriage is over. It`s fine with him.

BROOKS: Now, you know, they had been talking all up until now, from what we understand, and things were fairly amicable, even though there are irreconcilable differences in this, you know, looking at the -- at the petition for marriage (SIC). But does -- has Ronald told you what he really thinks Misty is holding out?

BEARDSLEY: He`s never came out -- first of all, you`ve got to understand. If Ronald knew anything or had anything that she`d ever told him, he would 100 percent go and tell authorities. Has he ever came out and told me that he thinks she`s hiding something, told me that he thinks that there`s disclosures she has not made to the police department, the sheriff`s department of Putnam County? No, he has not came out and said that. But I truly believe that he has concerns. I mean, you see her inconsistencies. You always see her on the news and everyone pointing out her inconsistencies. It`s -- it`s almost impossible not to question if she`s telling the truth.

BROOKS: You know -- you know, they were together not very long. I mean, how long totally have they known each other?

BEARDSLEY: To be honest, I don`t know the answer to that.

BROOKS: Yes, I -- but you know, from what I understand, it wasn`t that long before Haleigh disappeared they actually started dating, and then after she disappeared, they got married. Now, seven months later, they`re divorced. So you know, we were calling her Misty Croslin, Misty Croslin Cummings. But for seven months, shouldn`t have too much a hard time getting back to -- and she got her name back in a petition, back to Misty Croslin.

Now, Mr. Beardsley, you know, what is Ronald`s state of mind right now?

BEARDSLEY: Ronald`s state of mind has been the way it always has. His main concern is finding his daughter. He don`t care who it implicates, who`s responsible. His goal is to find his daughter. His state of mind is -- I think that he`s more relieved now from the day-to-day pressures of being with Misty and the media hype that surrounded their marriage and their relationship. So I think he`s a little more calm and relaxed. But he`s still very anxious and wants to find his daughter.

BROOKS: You know, in the marital settlement agreement, it says -- one of the lines -- "In consequence of dispute and irreconcilable differences, the parties intend to separate and live apart." So...

BEARDSLEY: Correct.

BROOKS: And now -- now they`re finally divorced. So what were the main disputes that they were having?

BEARDSLEY: Well, first of all, that`s standard language that I`ve used in every marital settlement agreement that I`ve ever drafted...

BROOKS: But there were disputes, though, correct?

BEARDSLEY: Well, every married couple has disputes. I mean, their main falling out, I guess you could say -- they needed to go their separate ways because of all the pressures that they receive day-to-day. And you know, Ronald, in my opinion, he does question if she had anything to do with it. Now, you know, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. I don`t know if he...

BROOKS: I think that`s a quote from Ronald, as a matter of fact.

BEARDSLEY: Yes. And I don`t -- you know, I don`t know if he stayed with her hoping that if she said anything or slipped that she would do it to the person that she was around every day. He`s never said that, but you know, common sense would tell you that that`s an option.

BROOKS: Yes. I want to go straight out to Art Harris, investigative journalist, and he has the Web site Artharris.com. Art, thanks for joining us.

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Thanks, Mike.

BROOKS: You have spent a lot of time down there and you`ve talked to a lot of folks in Satsuma and done a lot of your investigating yourself. What is the pulse now right now down in Satsuma surrounding this case and the search for Haleigh right now, that you -- in your opinion?

HARRIS: Well, there`s a collective sigh of relief, Mike, that this tension, this flash point between Misty and Ronald is not what it was. Misty is off with friends in an undisclosed location. And she is isolated. But I`m told that she has reached out to her family, and there may be a reconciliation, Mike. I understand there may be something in the works where she may be willing to drop her objection to Tommy being in touch with her. If she removes and drops that permanent restraining order, then she could go back to her family or he can leave the house.

BROOKS: Well, what -- why does she have a restraining order in the first place against her brother?

HARRIS: Well, there was violence, you know, in the yard when she was with Ronald, and you know, he had come over with the father and mother to try to, quote, "rescue" her from Ronald. She then changes his (SIC) mind. A fight ensues. You know, she gets punched accidentally, and then files these papers for a restraining order against her brother, Tommy. So anyway...

BROOKS: But now, Tommy -- now, Tommy was in jail. And I`m going to go out to Ellie Jostad, producer with the NANCY GRACE SHOW. Now, Tommy was in jail.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Right.

BROOKS: What was he in jail for, Ellie?

JOSTAD: Well, Tommy Croslin and Misty`s mother, Lisa, were involved in the same incident. They apparently went over to a neighbors house, this neighbor in his 80s. They went over his house to use his phone. While they were there, Lisa Croslin, the mother, allegedly stole checks from the neighbor, and the brother, Tommy, allegedly took a gun from him.

BROOKS: So he took a gun. They stole some checks. She wrote some bad paper of this -- of this old -- of this old guy, and then she runs to Tennessee, gets locked up in Tennessee, gets a warrant against her. Now she`s back in Florida.

What will -- come back. We`re going to talk about what Tommy told police. And did Misty`s mom talk to police, and what did she tell them?

BROOKS: That`s Misty Croslin on CBS`s "The Early Show." Boy, does she look different! Looks like she had a little bit of a makeover, maybe some time in a salon. We will see if this little reconciliation between the family really comes to fruition.

OK. I want to go back out to Art Harris. Art, now, we see Misty and she looks a lot different than we see her right here. Now, tell (INAUDIBLE) there was this whole little undercover sting operation that Tim Miller and Equusearch had. And because we heard about Misty running off to Orlando twice with this mystery friend, we find out this mystery friend is actually a woman by the name of Donna Brock who is working for Tim Miller.

HARRIS: That`s right. Mike. This is someone who she met when she was down there taking the polygraph that she, quote, "flunked miserably," according to Tim Miller, and came up with the idea that because they bonded and she offered, Hey, Misty, you know, give me a call, if you want to go to the mall, I`ll take you to get your hair done, your nails done -- and suddenly, out of the blue, Misty calls her. So she calls Tim Miller and says, Tim, what do I do? Tim says, This could be an opportunity to find out...

BROOKS: But Art...

HARRIS: ... what happened to Haleigh.

BROOKS: But Art, how did he -- how did she inject her -- how did Donna inject herself in this whole equation?

HARRIS: Well, Mike, she was part of the Texas Equusearch crowd that was baby-sitting Misty when she went to Orlando to take the polygraph. And for some reason, they hit it off. She`s 43, a mother of four, you know, has -- you know, has a -- has kind of an aura of calmness to her. Misty saw her as the, quote, "mother she never had." That`s according to what Tim tells me. And suddenly, they were bonded.

BROOKS: OK. So she knew that this woman, Donna Brock, actually did work for Tim Miller?

HARRIS: She did, but you know, just assumed that because they were going out together and she could call her anytime and spend time with her - - she took her out of town, spent money on her. And she told her a lot of very personal things. Donna was there every time Misty talked to Ronald on the phone that week and we reported they were fighting tooth and nail. And Misty got the news as we reported it on NANCY GRACE. She watched the show every night, I`m told, and was infuriated.

BROOKS: Joining us from Florida, I want to go straight out to Mark Nejame, attorney for Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch. Mr. Nejame, good to be with -- good to have you with us again.

MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER: Nice to be back, thank you.

BROOKS: Did Tim kind of run this plan, this undercover, you know, Operation Misty, if you will, by you before they decided to go put some money into this?

NEJAME: No. There was really two parts to it. The first time, Misty wanted to take a polygraph, so we arranged it in my offices. And she did fail miserably. Later, when I think the...

BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Well, you heard Ronald`s mother, Theresa Neves, say a dysfunctional family. I think that`s kind of putting it mildly. But keep in mind, all along, Teresa Neves has always been behind the story that Misty was saying and believed that she was telling the truth. We`ll see if she really believes that anymore.

I want to go to back out to Mark Nejame, attorney for Tim Miller and Texas Equusearch. Mark, you were just getting into telling us a little bit about Operation Misty before we went to break.

NEJAME: Right.

BROOKS: So he did run this by you before he went ahead and did this.

NEJAME: Well, no. What happened is, is that Misty wanted to take a polygraph.

BROOKS: OK.

NEJAME: Teresa contacted me and I told her that I would only assist if it led to finding out whatever happened to the child. So she agreed. So we were -- whether that led to Misty or to anybody on the face of the earth, too bad, we were looking for the child. And we then got some new national publicity, some new attention brought to the case. They came in. Misty agreed to take a polygraph, told us she didn`t have an attorney. It was scheduled in my offices. We found the top polygraphers we could in the central Florida area.

And I left for the evening. She failed miserably. And then from there, as your previous individual had indicated, that was pretty much correct. Tim then went ahead on his own and set it up because at that point, Misty started coming out and saying that Tim was a liar, I was a liar.

BROOKS: Right.

NEJAME: There was nothing to lie over. She failed the polygraph.

BROOKS: Exactly. Now, I want to go straight out to our attorneys, Sue Moss, family attorney, Dan Horowitz joining us from San Francisco, and noted defense attorney Elizabeth Kelly (ph) from New York.

Sue, anything -- anything that she told Donna Brock, can it be used in court?

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Oh, absolutely. Just ask Joran Van Der Sloot.

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MOSS: And of course it`s not a big shock that they got a divorce. Only Helen Keller didn`t see that coming. But they had nothing to divide, so there`s nothing to decide. They didn`t even own the trailer where they would reside. So this was an easy case. The divorce is done, and now we can get back to looking for this little girl.

BROOKS: Dan, do you have issues with it? I really don`t.

DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I really do. I mean, Tim Miller to me has no credibility. I`ve heard what he said about Marc Klaas, that childish outrage that he unleashed. And how do you believe anybody in his camp or associated with him? They`re all media hounds, and he has no credibility.

MIKE BROOKS, GUEST HOST: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace.

Well, did Tommy Croslin, Misty`s brother, really go over to the trailer that night and pound on the door like he said he did? And didn`t hear the TV, didn`t see anybody, didn`t hear anything?

We`re not talking about a mansion here, folks. We`re talking a trailer that probably would -- he would have been able to hear something standing outside, if the TV had been on like Misty says it was.

Let me go back out to Marlaina Schiavo. She has been in that trailer. She`s been down there since the very beginning.

Marlaina, has law enforcement talked about giving Tommy a polygraph, possibly, to see if he really was being forthcoming?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: You know, that`s interesting, Mike. They haven`t talked about giving him a polygraph at all. You know, they took his statement. They put it out there and that was that.

I`m not saying that they won`t be doing it in the future. But, you know, law enforcement hasn`t exactly been forthcoming with, you know, many details of this investigation.

BROOKS: Yes.

SCHIAVO: So who knows? It might be in the works, but no, they haven`t said it publicly.

BROOKS: As an investigator I would want to get him on the box, myself. And you know what? I don`t blame them. As a former investigator, I wouldn`t be telling everybody everything either. I`d be holding things close to my vest as you make -- as you get your lead, and you go and you make -- do your investigation, do your interviews. You know, then that`s how you build your case and make somebody a good cake for going to trial.

I want to go back to Tim Miller. Talking about Tim Miller. We heard Dan Horowitz, our defense attorney, said that he thought that Tim`s credibility was shot. I want to go back out to our attorneys.

Elizabeth Kelley, defense attorney from New York, do you agree with Dan that Tim Miller, who orchestrated this Operation Misty, as I call it -- do you think that he`s lost his credibility because of this?

ELIZABETH KELLEY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you know, Mike, I feel as if I`m hearing all about Linda Tripp all over again. I`d like to stick up for Misty in large part because no one else is. First of all, I don`t read anything into the divorce between her and Mr. Cummings. These are two very young people who made a hasty decision to get married during a very emotionally rot time in their lives.

BROOKS: Yes, but Elizabeth, you know what? Instead of get married, you know, they should have been focusing their attention on finding the little girl. I think it distracted a lot of attention away.

I want to go back out to Art Harris. Art, you were down there and talked to Tim Miller about all this. Now let`s talk a little about what Tim Miller told you about Ronald Cummings.

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, WWW.ARTHARRIS.COM: Yes.

BROOKS: And his state of mind.

HARRIS: Yes. Mike, he was very concerned because after the polygraph, he went over to the trailer with Ronald and says that Ronald went into the closet, pulled out an assault rifle with two banana clip 32 rounds.

BROOKS: And what kind of assault rifle did he say that he had?

HARRIS: You know, he didn`t know the make, I`m assuming something like an AR-15, semiautomatic. Two clips and he said I`m going to blow her teeth to the back of her head and then kill myself and take some others out with me if it turns out she had anything to do with this, Mike.

He was really worried. He`d seen cases that had lost when witnesses had been killed, had died. He wanted to get Misty out of there, he told me. And that is why he used Donna Brock as a vehicle to keep her away from Ronald. That was his motivation according to Tim Miller.

BROOKS: I want to go back out to Brandon Beardsley, the attorney for Ronald Cummings joining us from Jacksonville, California.

Mr. Beardsley.

BRANDON BEARDSLEY, ATTORNEY FOR RONALD CUMMINGS: Yes, sir.

BROOKS: Does he, in fact, have a weapon in his house?

BEARDSLEY: He does not have an assault rifle. That is just -- that statement is absolutely ludicrous. You know? No. He does not have an assault rifle. Does he have a pistol, I believe he does. I don`t know. I`ve never searched his house. But I know he didn`t have an assault rifle.

BROOKS: Have you talked to him about this?

BEARDSLEY: Yes.

BROOKS: You have?

BEARDSLEY: Yes, sir.

BROOKS: And have you been out to his house and asked him.

BEARDSLEY: I have not been to where Haleigh was taken from. When we started representing him he had already relocated residents.

BROOKS: Do you think that Ronald Cummings is a danger to himself or others, from what we are hearing from Art Harris?

BEARDSLEY: Now from what you are hearing from Art Harris, if it was true, then of course. But I have many, many clients that I am concerned over their emotional and mental state and I always refer them to therapy.

If I believed Ronald Cummings was emotionally or mentally unstable I would have him in therapy. And there is no doubt in mind that he is emotionally and mentally as stable as he can be for the circumstances that he`s in. He`s not a threat to himself or anyone that`s around him.

BROOKS: I want to go straight out to Pat Brown, criminal profiler.

Pat, you`ve seen cases like this before and as Mr. Beardsley said a lot of people, because he`s going through a lot of stress, has become very emotional. What do you make of all this?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER, AUTHOR OF "KILLING FOR SPORT": Well, I think we should go back and take a look at a lot of the circumstances. I have an interesting viewpoint on this marriage and divorce. I`m not saying it`s accurate. But I`m saying that it`s interesting and the police are probably looking at it.

One thing is Ron marries a woman that`s questionable as to losing his child. And his child is missing, being -- maybe being raped and tortured and he says oh this is a time to go get married. My daughter would like this.

Well, that`s ridiculous. I guess his daughter would like the divorce, too. But he goes ahead and marries this woman. And one of the questions is, did he marry her because he thought it would keep her from being able to testify against him. In other words, if she was involved in something, they could be testifying.

Secondly, if he gets divorced now, maybe he can now say if he was involved, that she`s just -- and she goes to police, she`s just ranting and raving. And she says getting back at him for the divorce. So it might have been a good strategy on his part both ways.

BROOKS: I want to go out to clinical psychologist Patricia Saunders. Pat, weigh in on this. We definitely need you right now.

PATRICIA SAUNDERS, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, I see a family that has these unstable attachments to everyone. So it would not be out of consideration that Misty is someone who doesn`t attach to anybody in any substantial kind of way.

I do want to agree with part of what Pat Brown is saying that I think we`ve had a tendency to kind of whitewash Ronald Cummings as a victim in this. I`m sure the man is suffering because of the loss of his daughter. But Misty is such an obvious target and makes herself more so. I thought we have.

BROOKS: Well, yes, she`s going to be a target. I mean that`s what police said. The only thing consistent about what she`s told them are her inconsistencies.

SAUNDERS: Well, that`s true, Mike. But there`s a lot that we don`t know that the police have withheld. I don`t know that Ronald Cummings is capable of making the kind of decision to keep her close to his side, but I do question his stance as a victim, too.

BROOKS: But why, Pat, would they decide to go ahead, in the midst of all that`s going on, decide to get married? It just doesn`t make sense to me.

SAUNDERS: Well, they`re two highly immature people who act on impulse. And she might be his idea of the child bride, a woman who he can mold and shape and not give him any problems.


BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace.

We just want to find where is Haleigh Cummings. I want to go back out to Mark Nejame. He`s the attorney for Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch.

Mark, you heard what Dan Horowitz, our defense attorney from San Francisco said, that Tim Miller`s credibility is shot. What`s your response?

MARK NEJAME, ATTORNEY FOR TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Quite the opposite. Tim just found his 102nd victim yesterday. This man`s life is dedicated to finding the lost and the deceased when nobody else would do it. He didn`t care. He was doing something unorthodox.

Without question, he was looking to find this child. As far as the publicity seeking, nobody knew he was doing it. Where is the publicity? He did it for one reason and one reason only. Because he wanted to help find this child. So anybody that claims otherwise, they really don`t know what they`re talking about.

BROOKS: Now has Tim talked to you about Ronald and possibly, you know, him having the gun?

NEJAME: Sure. In fact, we were with Ronald and we spent time. And the one thing I can tell you, I genuinely believe that Ronald absolutely does not know what happened to his child and is dedicated to finding the child.

BROOKS: Yes, I do, too.

NEJAME: His manners and the way he acts, a lot of people may not accept it. But I believe he`s totally committed. And the issue as it relates to Misty, if I could refer to what was just being discussed.

BROOKS: Sure.

NEJAME: Ron believes, in my opinion from the time that I`d spent, that Misty might have known something about it. And if she ended up going elsewhere with other family and she was gone, he believes he would have lost that single opportunity or the best opportunity to best find out what happened to his child.

So all the psychological gibber jives that I`ve just heard, respectfully, it`s not that complicated. He knew that his best chance of finding his child was keeping her close by. Because he`s got questions like everybody else does about her continued discrepancies.

BROOKS: I want to go straight out to Marlaina Schiavo again, our NANCY GRACE producer who has been on the case from day one.

Marlaina, going back to Misty`s mom. She was just bonded out. Number one, who bonded her out and has she spoken with police?

SCHIAVO: OK. First of all, police did not say who bonded her out, Mike. And she has spoken to police. They interviewed her before she left the jail and they questioned her about the night Haleigh went missing.

And honestly, Mike, she -- all she said was that she still thinks that Misty is holding something back. She`s sticking to that story. You know, Misty, as -- you know, as we talked about last night, you know, said that her mother only said that because she was mad at her. But apparently that`s not really the case because she reiterated that to police last night before she bonded out.

BROOKS: Now where did she come up with the money to get out of jail?

SCHIAVO: Well, that`s a good question, Mike. I mean, you know, the family obviously has resources. There is extended family that doesn`t live in Satsuma that might be helping them but where that money is coming from exactly.

BROOKS: Is Hank Croslin in the picture?

SCHIAVO: Hank Croslin is in the picture. He has left Tennessee. He came back to Florida once Lisa got transferred. Now do they have plans to return to Tennessee, that remains to be seen.

BROOKS: Boy, we talk about a dysfunctional family, but you know, maybe, maybe she knows a little bit of something that will help law enforcement find Haleigh Cummings.

I want to go out to the Dr. Alanna Levine joining us from New York, a pediatrician. All right. You know, we hold out hope, Doctor, that Haleigh is still alive, somewhere. You know, there`s been speculation that maybe some friends of Misty`s had taken her that night. When Tommy went over, didn`t hear anybody, we don`t know the real story is.

But, if she is alive, Doctor, she has Turner syndrome as we`ve talked about before. Does she need medication on a daily basis to sustain her? It`s been a long time now.

DR. ALANNA LEVINE, PEDIATRICIAN: Right. It really depends on her own Turner syndrome. There`s a wide variety of symptoms. And some of them can be very mild and some of them can be more severe including involvement of the heart, including involvement of the kidneys. So if she has a more severe form, absolutely, she would need medication for that. But it`s hard to know specifically in her case without knowing her exact medical history.

BROOKS: I want to go back out to Mr. Brandon Beardsley, attorney for Ronald Cummings.

Mr. Beardsley, do we know how serious of Turner syndrome Haleigh has?

BEARDSLEY: My understanding is it wasn`t that severe. That at the time that she went missing, she actually didn`t even have to take medication for her -- the Turner syndrome.

BROOKS: So she was not taking daily medication?

BEARDSLEY: Correct.

BROOKS: OK. I want to go back out to Ellie Jostad, producer for NANCY GRACE. Ellie, now there`s been talk of the night that Haleigh disappeared, that Ronald was trying to get -- was trying to call Misty a number of times in the cell phone. Do we know, for sure, from cell phone records, if this was, in fact, true?

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Yes, we do actually. Police say that they do have Ronald Cummings` cell phone records. That they have evidence that he tried to call her over 20 times that night between about 8:00, 8:30 and when he got home from work a little after 3:00.

So we do know that he was trying to call her and apparently wasn`t able to get through, whether because her phone was off or she wasn`t answering.

BROOKS: Mr. Beardsley, what has Ronald told you about that time -- during that time frame where he tried to get in touch with Misty?

BEARDSLEY: He just couldn`t get ahold of her. That, you know, he called several times because he couldn`t get ahold of her. It was typical for him when he was at work like that to call her cell phone throughout the evening.

BROOKS: 23 times? 23 times?

BEARDSLEY: I don`t know about that many times but I mean, I know every night that he was at work, he would call to check in to make sure she was OK, the kids were OK. And on that particular evening, he was not able to get her on the phone.

BROOKS: Ellie, other nights. How many times does he usually call? Did they say?

JOSTAD: No. We didn`t know that. We didn`t know what was a typical night, how many times he would call.

BROOKS: You know, to me, as an investigator, 23 times is a -- quite a few times to call somebody in just a few hours, period. I just -- something is not right here. And we still have not heard the true story from the one person who knows that I think knows and that`s Misty Croslin.

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NANCY GRACE

Misty Croslin Speaks to Family Members From Behind Bars

Aired February 15, 2010 - 20:00:00 ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: A 5-year-old Florida girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she`s gone. Daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little Haleigh. Last person to see her alive, new stepmother, 18-year-old Misty Croslin, who takes to the airwaves to claim she`s innocent. But even in one brief interview, she can`t keep her story straight, including a 180 on a lie detector she flunked. After Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, and baby-sitter-turned-stepmom Misty Croslin both handcuffed, arrested, booked, Cummings talks first. Stepmother Misty Croslin does the same.

Tonight, we discover more jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours of Croslin yakking, including visits with Mommy, Daddy, brother, grandparents, and it`s all on video.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S BABY-SITTER: Hey.

LISA CROSLIN, MISTY`S MOTHER: She said she would, and she`s going to send you some money.

MISTY CROSLIN: OK. Mom, I want out of here!

LISA CROSLIN: I know you want out, baby. I know it.

MISTY CROSLIN: I want out so bad!

LISA CROSLIN: I know.

MISTY CROSLIN: Have you heard that my bond was -- got lowered or anything?

LISA CROSLIN: Yes, they took it from $100,000 to $50,000, or something like that.

MISTY CROSLIN: So it`s at $50,000 now?

LISA CROSLIN: Art Harris called yesterday and said somebody in Nevada was trying to come up with the money to get you out.

MISTY CROSLIN: OK. Tell him...

LISA CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE) willing to do it.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. Yes. Yes. Do you know how long? Can you keep calling him and asking him?

LISA CROSLIN: Yes, he`s going to keep in contact with us.

MISTY CROSLIN: Man, I miss you guys. I`m stuck in this one little cell all the time.

LISA CROSLIN: I know, baby. It`s hard, ain`t it.

MISTY CROSLIN: It is hard! Just they won`t even let me do anything!

LISA CROSLIN: They`re not going to let you out in population?

MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know.

LISA CROSLIN: Have you asked them?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. They said give it a couple days maybe.

I hope you guys can get me out.

LISA CROSLIN: I hope we can, too, baby. Do you get to watch TV?

MISTY CROSLIN: At 6:00 o`clock. Barely can see it. I have to lay my thing on the floor so I can see the TV because they have the TV facing the wrong way so we can`t see it.

LISA CROSLIN: You watch anything recently?

MISTY CROSLIN: No. What was on?

LISA CROSLIN: Ron was doing a thing on there last night stating that you was his ex-wife and his friend only, that he had a girlfriend.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

LISA CROSLIN: That`s what he was saying.

MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t care.

LISA CROSLIN: OK.

MISTY CROSLIN: It sucks, man. I hope I don`t have to be here forever. Do you know how long Art Harris said that when (INAUDIBLE) people are going to bond me out?

LISA CROSLIN: He didn`t say. He just wanted to know if we was willing for them to do it, and I told him yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: Did he say it was a for sure thing?

LISA CROSLIN: He didn`t say for sure. He just said that he knows people in Nevada that was trying to get your bond (INAUDIBLE)

MISTY CROSLIN: You need to keep on him, be, like, Get her out.

LISA CROSLIN: Don`t worry. Every time he calls, I`m going to get onto him. I just wish I could get you out!

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. It`s $50,000 now? So what`s 10 percent of $50,000?

LISA CROSLIN: I think $10,000.

MISTY CROSLIN: So I need $10,000 to get out?

LISA CROSLIN: Yes.

Oh, God, baby, I miss you so much!

MISTY CROSLIN: You guys are going to come see me every -- did you guys -- what about Talent?

LISA CROSLIN: I called Talent and Talent said he don`t think he can come up here.

MISTY CROSLIN: Why?

LISA CROSLIN: I don`t know. He didn`t tell me why. Lindsey (ph) talked to him.

MISTY CROSLIN: So he`s not going to come visit me?

LISA CROSLIN: I don`t think so.

MISTY CROSLIN: What about write me?

LISA CROSLIN: He said he`d try (INAUDIBLE)

MISTY CROSLIN: When are you guys sending mine out?

LISA CROSLIN: I sent yours out today.

MISTY CROSLIN: You did?

LISA CROSLIN: Grandma sent -- Grandma sent you one yesterday.

MISTY CROSLIN: OK.

LISA CROSLIN: OK?

LISA CROSLIN: I saw Tina at Spinner`s, and she said she doesn`t not have your stuff.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, she does! It was in her car!

LISA CROSLIN: She said she don`t have it, that you had everything with you.

MISTY CROSLIN: No! It was in her car. When I got arrested, my camera, my phone, my I.D., my wallet was all in her car.

LISA CROSLIN: The police didn`t take it from her?

MISTY CROSLIN: No! She pulled off!

LISA CROSLIN: She`s not going to let me have it, then.

MISTY CROSLIN: That`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!

LISA CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m going to. I`m sorry. I was cussing.

LISA CROSLIN: Don`t get in trouble, baby.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m not.

LISA CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m not going to. I didn`t mean that. I was just mad.

LISA CROSLIN: I know.

MISTY CROSLIN: All right. I hope that people get me out of here.

LISA CROSLIN: I hope they do, too.

MISTY CROSLIN: You guys, Art Harris -- Art Harris can get ahold of Cobra, too, because Cobra said he`d bond me out, too. I got...

LISA CROSLIN: Well, I`ll tell your dad.

MISTY CROSLIN: I got 49 minutes.

LISA CROSLIN: I`ll try to get -- I`ll try to get Cobra`s number myself.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

LISA CROSLIN: I have it in my wallet.

MISTY CROSLIN: We have 49 minutes.

LISA CROSLIN: I`ll let you go and let Daddy come in, OK?

MISTY CROSLIN: OK. I love you.

LISA CROSLIN: I love you, too!

MISTY CROSLIN: I see Austin and Lindsey.

LISA CROSLIN: You see Austin and Lindsey?

MISTY CROSLIN: They`re...

LISA CROSLIN: Do you see Tommy?

MISTY CROSLIN: They`re -- oh, you can`t see them yet. Is she talking to Tommy?

LISA CROSLIN: Yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: Mama, he needs to...

LISA CROSLIN: How do you see Tommy, Austin and Lindsey?

MISTY CROSLIN: Oh, I thought I just seen them walk behind you.

LISA CROSLIN: Oh, you probably did. That`s going into the monitor.

MISTY CROSLIN: Oh. I got 52 minutes and 44 seconds.

LISA CROSLIN: You do?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. Do you see it on the bottom of the screen?

LISA CROSLIN: No.

MISTY CROSLIN: Oh, OK. Well, I can see it.

LISA CROSLIN: Well, make sure when it`s, like, 3:30, let me know...

MISTY CROSLIN: I will.

LISA CROSLIN: ... so I can go get Dad.

MISTY CROSLIN: All right.

LISA CROSLIN: So he can come in.

HANK CROSLIN, MISTY`S FATHER: What are you doing, baby? Oh, don`t start crying, please!

MISTY CROSLIN: I want out of here, Daddy!

HANK CROSLIN: I know. I wish I could get you out. I don`t know. He said there were some people in Nevada wanted to bond you out, but you know, I don`t know. I believe you`re trying, baby, but -- they reduced your bond, I guess. How`re you doing? I love you.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Not really good. Can you see me?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. Can you see me?

HANK CROSLIN: Yes. You still in the cell by yourself?

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: To see each other -- I mean, you can talk to other people?

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: I can`t handle it. We`re -- me and your mom is in a predicament ourselves now. Lindsey`s moving. Lindsey`s moving, and you know, we don`t really got nowheres to go right now. Got no wheels to get around.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: No, Talent won`t. I don`t want nothing to do with Talent. We`re going to rent us a place. I mean, just -- I just don`t know what`s going to happen, you know? I`m only on unemployment. I got to get some wheels to get some -- get some wheels to get -- or try to find me some work.

MISTY CROSLIN:

HANK CROSLIN: Oh, I know it`s hard. It`s hard for me to have you both locked up. Now, Misty, don`t -- don`t be -- don`t by lying about nothing because all it`s going to do is bury you deeper.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: What`d your ma say to you?

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Somebody suggested that they was trying to come up with some money or something, but Art Harris is just looking for a story. Don`t worry. I mean, if somebody`ll bond you out, that`s fine. I mean, I`m all for it, but...

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: All I know Misty is you guys need to get to the truth and get (EXPLETIVE DELETED) over with.

They say you sold -- sold over 300 pills to the undercover.

MISTY CROSLIN: But I didn`t sell them the whole time. I didn`t sell them -- you know, I mean, I was with the people, but I think some of my charges are going to get dropped.

HANK CROSLIN: How many times you do it yourself?

MISTY CROSLIN: Eight times.

HANK CROSLIN: How many times did you do it yourself?

MISTY CROSLIN: Eight to nine.

HANK CROSLIN: Told you to stay away from that stupid (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Told you.

MISTY CROSLIN: When I get out, I`m going to go back with you guys every day.

HANK CROSLIN: Our lives -- our lives are so screwed up here.

Oh, I know. We don`t get our (EXPLETIVE DELETED) took care of, me and your mom be sitting in there for however long. You mom`s going to have to -- she don`t get her -- all her probation done, she`ll be doing 18 months. I go to court on the...

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: I go home to court on the 18th.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Yes, February.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: A hundred and fifty thousand. So take -- so it`s right around probably about $12,000, maybe $15,000 to get you out. I only got -- I only got a couple more weeks left over there, and I have to be out. Lindsey`s moving out this week sometime, so I don`t know how that`s going to work out. I mean, when I get it straightened out, I`ll get some minutes put on the phone, but you ain`t going to get a call every day. And Timmy told...

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: No, he said to keep on trying every day. As soon as he can, he`s going to get some minutes put on there.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Terrible, baby. God, I hate this. I don`t want to lose either one of you guys.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: If you guys had something to do with...

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Yes, but that right there doesn`t matter. The dude (ph) Haleigh case is a whole different ballgame.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: I don`t understand why you didn`t come forward before.

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Yes. Damn you, man. You had to go...

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: I know, baby. I`m going crazy myself.

yes, they`re messing with him, too. Some of the inmates was hollering (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to him. Where`s that little baby at?

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: Oh, you`re in there by yourself? Everybody got the cell by -- everybody in there?

MISTY CROSLIN: (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: The whole place is like that? You better watch, them other people will try to hurt you.


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GRACE: Next, more of Croslin, Misty Croslin, jailhouse tapes.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: On secret jailhouse tapes, baby-sitter-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin begins to crack behind bars, desperate, sobbing to get out of jail now, admitting to repeat drug sales, even ratting out her own brother on a felony. This as claims come from behind bars her drug deals are to blame for 5-year-old Haleigh`s disappearance.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LISA CROSLIN: I miss your pretty face.

MISTY CROSLIN: Don`t cry. What do you think they`re going to give me?

LISA CROSLIN: I don`t know, baby. I don`t know.

MISTY CROSLIN: Hold on.

LISA CROSLIN: I`m so scared!

MISTY CROSLIN: They can`t keep me forever, though, really, Mom. Really, they can`t.

LISA CROSLIN: No, they can`t, baby.

MISTY CROSLIN: And when I get out, I`m like -- I`m moving up to Mass and you guys are coming. We`re leaving Florida.

LISA CROSLIN: Oh, don`t worry. As soon as you get out, we`re leaving. We`re going up there. You just hang in and keep your head up.

MISTY CROSLIN: I do. I just want them to hurry up and do whatever they`re going to do so I can get it done and over with, you know?

LISA CROSLIN: I called the court, and they don`t have a court date for you.

MISTY CROSLIN: Not yet. Well, just -- I want you to keep calling. I want you to keep calling this jail, too, and ask -- tell them it`s not right that I`m in lockdown and stuff.

LISA CROSLIN: I will. I will. When did they get your phone...

MISTY CROSLIN: Every day.

LISA CROSLIN: I will. I promise.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HANK CROSLIN: What`re you doing, Sissy?

MISTY CROSLIN: Nothing!

HANK CROSLIN: I thought you didn`t want to cry.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m not trying to cry. Mom got me crying. I`m OK.

HANK CROSLIN: You OK?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

HANK CROSLIN: Did they put you out in the population yet?

MISTY CROSLIN: No, they still got me locked down.

HANK CROSLIN: I don`t think it`s a good idea for you to go out there.

MISTY CROSLIN: Everybody`s nice to me, though, Dad. Nobody bothers me. Really, everybody`s real sweet to me and nice to me.

HANK CROSLIN: Until you get out there.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m tired of being by myself.

We didn`t deserve this!

HANK CROSLIN: Oh, I know it. We just need to find Haleigh.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know.

HANK CROSLIN: That`s what we need to do.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know.

HANK CROSLIN: If we can find Haleigh, we`d all -- it`d be better for everybody.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. I`ve been -- I`ve been -- I sit and wonder every day, thinking, just trying to go back and just think if I missed anything. I do, every day! And it`s just -- it`s not, Dad. There`s nothing! I`m telling you, it`s hard.

Oh, DCF came over the other day.

HANK CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: DCF come in here the other day to talk to me about Ronald.

HANK CROSLIN: Who?

MISTY CROSLIN: DCF. They asked me about Ronald`s drug habit and about my drug habit and a lot of stupid (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

(CROSSTALK)

MISTY CROSLIN: I said Ronald was a good father. He was a good father. I mean, just because he had a drug habit doesn`t mean he wasn`t a good father.

HANK CROSLIN: He did? You didn`t have -- you really didn`t have a drug problem.

MISTY CROSLIN: I didn`t.

HANK CROSLIN: You just did it every once in a while.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, and barely, and I didn`t -- it wasn`t even like that. I didn`t even like pills barely, you know? When I got my prescription, he got my whole prescription of pills because I didn`t take them.

When Haleigh`s found, I will be let out of jail because that`s the only reason they`re keeping me in here, the only reason they set me up, because of all that stuff. And that`s why my bond is so high. And it`s not right.

Ronald`s family`s not as good as everybody thinks they are. They all take pills. They all use -- you know, it -- come on, now. We`re not the only bad people. We ain`t bad people.

HANK CROSLIN: No, we`re just stupid.
(LAUGHTER)

MISTY CROSLIN: But they think, Oh, Ronald Cummings`s family is so good. They all take pills. They all do (EXPLETIVE DELETED), every last one of them.

HANK CROSLIN: Yes, the whole world does them. They need to go after the doctors because pretty much, you just -- if you go to a doctor, you pretty much tell him what you want and he gives it to you.

MISTY CROSLIN: Exactly.

So what have you guys been doing? How`s...

HANK CROSLIN: Just laying around, worrying about you guys, watching that stupid Nancy Grace lady. I don`t even like watching her. I hate that lady.

MISTY CROSLIN: We don`t watch it in here, thank God. (INAUDIBLE)

HANK CROSLIN: She`s stupid. She don`t even know what she`s talking about half the time.

MISTY CROSLIN: She doesn`t.

HANK CROSLIN: Well, she says stuff and she don`t know what she`s talking about.

MISTY CROSLIN: She says we eat better than her.

HANK CROSLIN: Yes. She found three chicken McNuggets in her car (INAUDIBLE) found three chicken McNuggets in your car. You old lying lady! She`s supposed to be a Christian lady, too. She ain`t no Christian lady.

MISTY CROSLIN: Nancy Grace is silly. She don`t eat better than us.

HANK CROSLIN: She`s...

MISTY CROSLIN: We don`t eat better than her.

HANK CROSLIN: She`s a stupid lady.

MISTY CROSLIN: See, this is going to be on TV, too.

HANK CROSLIN: Nancy Grace is retard. Put that on there.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. Nancy Grace is a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). She can lick my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and suck (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

HANK CROSLIN: Shh!

MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t care.

HANK CROSLIN: They`re already trying to make you all look like a bad person.

MISTY CROSLIN: She won`t play that. Because I said that, she will not play that.

HANK CROSLIN: Just don`t let her get to us. I know.

MISTY CROSLIN: I ain`t letting her get to me. I don`t care what she has to say. I don`t care what anybody else has to say about me because I...

HANK CROSLIN: I do. I don`t want them to think that my family had anything to do with that because I know my family. Ain`t none of us that cold-hearted.

MISTY CROSLIN: Of course we`re not, Daddy.

HANK CROSLIN: We love children too much.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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GRACE: On newly released jailhouse tapes, Misty Croslin cracks behind bars, sobbing, desperate to get out of jail now. It`s all about me, me, me, me, me, me, even admitting to repeat drug sales, ratting out her own brother on a felony.

Now claims come from behind bars it was her drug deals to blame for Haleigh`s disappearance. But why? Then Croslin reveals she`s got information she plans to use to get out of jail. Police convinced Misty Croslin the key to Haleigh`s disappearance, especially since evidence emerges Croslin did not want to be bothered baby-sitting the night Haleigh disappears.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GRANDMOTHER: Hello?

MISTY CROSLIN: Grandma, I love you! Can you please accept my phone call?

GRANDMOTHER: Do what?

MISTY CROSLIN: Will you accept to talk to me, please?

GRANDMOTHER: I`m talking to you, honey.

MISTY CROSLIN: Grandma, I don`t want to be in here!

GRANDMOTHER: Misty, I know you don`t. I don`t want you in there, honey, but there`s -- we do -- we kept telling you, honey, to stay away from that stuff. You can`t do that.

MISTY CROSLIN: I need someone to try to bail me out!

GRANDMOTHER: I have no money. Your dad owes me money. Now I can`t even pay my -- my payment for my house insurance -- or not insurance but...
MISTY CROSLIN: Can you get ahold of Dad and tell him to put some minutes on my phone so they can talk to me and come down and visit me?

GRANDMOTHER: I can`t get ahold of him, either. He don`t have a phone. He calls me.

MISTY CROSLIN: When he -- when he calls you, will you please tell him to...

GRANDMOTHER: Yes, I will.

MISTY CROSLIN: Because I really can`t handle this, Grandma!

GRANDMOTHER: I know you couldn`t, and I -- I wish there was something could be done, but...

MISTY CROSLIN: I just need to get bailed out!

GRANDMOTHER: The money that they want to bail you out, there`s nobody got that kind of...
(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN: Get Cobra. You know he`ll get me out. I got some information that I`ll give to him if he gets me out.

CHELSEA CROSLIN, MISTY`S SISTER-IN-LAW: I know, but that`s why your lawyer`s scared. He doesn`t want -- he called me last night and he said, Chelsea, I don`t want Cobra to get ahold of Misty because I think all`s he`s going to do is -- is interrogate the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of her, like he did Nene and throw her back in jail, he says. So I`m working on it.

MISTY CROSLIN: So my lawyer`s trying to...

(CROSSTALK)

MISTY CROSLIN: My lawyer`s trying to get me out?

CHELSEA CROSLIN: Yes. He`s, like, I`m going to -- I want to get her out before Cobra can get her out. He`s, like, Because I don`t want Cobra to get her.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

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HANK CROSLIN: Who was you (INAUDIBLE) getting all these (EXPLETIVE DELETED) pills from?

MISTY CROSLIN: I know, man. It sucks. I should have listened to you.

HANK CROSLIN: Told you don`t be getting into that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) game, man. I told it wasn`t no good.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know, Daddy.

HANK CROSLIN: Now you`re brother`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and you`re (EXPLETIVE DELETED), and I can`t handle it, man.

MISTY CROSLIN: It`s OK. I`m going to -- Dad, it`s going to be OK. I will get out. They`re not going to keep me forever.

LISA CROSLIN: I don`t want you in there at all!

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, but you know, what -- I got to learn the lesson. I`m OK, you guys. I`m really OK. I`m doing fine. I mean, I hate being here. Of course I do. Robert Fields is trying to bond me out right now. He`s trying to get me out, but if he doesn`t, then I`ll -- you know, I`ll be here. There`s nothing I can do about it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: When we come back, more of baby-sitter-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin`s secret jailhouse tapes.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: After Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, and baby-sitter turned stepmother, Misty Croslin, are handcuffed, arrested, booked, Cummings talks first. Stepmother Misty Croslin follows suit.

Tonight, even more jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours of Croslin talking away. Hours of visits with mommy, daddy, grandma, brother, all on video.

At this hour, investigators combing the tapes for evidence that may help find Haleigh.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello?

MISTY CROSLIN, RONALD CUMMING`S EX-WIFE, LAST SEEN HALEIGH: Hey, Mama.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, baby. What are you doing?

MISTY CROSLIN: Don`t cry, because you`re going to make me cry and I can`t handle it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m scared for you.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. It`s OK. I need you to go over to Tina`s and get my cell phone and stuff and my camera and wallet and everything. And I want you both to come visit me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s got to be approved because I don`t know, probation they have to approve who can come and see you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got no gas money.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we ain`t got no gas right now, but they did approve me, and we`re going to get up there one day this week hopefully.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you, baby.

MISTY CROSLIN: Because I really to see you, guys.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: I said I really want to see you guys.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m coming to see you, I promise. OK?

MISTY CROSLIN: OK. I mean I can talk for 15 minutes, but.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. I love you. You dad wants to say something.

MISTY CROSLIN: OK. I love you, too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How you doing, baby?

MISTY CROSLIN: Hanging in there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I hope so.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, I`m doing alright.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your brother`s taking it pretty hard.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tommy`s taking it pretty hard.

MISTY CROSLIN: Why?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because he`s away from his baby and he`s going to prison.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. I am too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know. Hope not.

MISTY CROSLIN: I hope not, too. We`ll see though.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: God, I hope and pray not. I wish you would have just listened to your dad.

MISTY CROSLIN: I know. I wish I would have to. You don`t even know. I think about that all the time. But you know what? I got to learn from my own mistakes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, that`s right. And you know better than to do it again?

MISTY CROSLIN: I will never. When I get out of here, I will not do anything. I`m not smoking cigarettes. I`m not smoking weed. I`m not doing nothing anymore. I`m going to be good.

I`m going to -- if I go to prison. I`m going to get my GED, I`m going to do what I have to do and when I get out, I`m going to do the right thing and stay with my mom and my dad and not leave them ever again.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. I love you.

MISTY CROSLIN: I love you, too. You`re not hanging up until 15 minutes is over.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m not, baby, I promise.

TIMMY CROSLIN, MISTY CROSLIN`S BROTHER: Hello.

MISTY CROSLIN: Hey, Bubba.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Hey, Sis.

MISTY CROSLIN: Bubba, can you please try to get me out?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: We`re working on it right now, baby sis.

MISTY CROSLIN: How? Who`s working on it?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I think your lawyer`s working on getting you out.

MISTY CROSLIN: Do you know how long?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: Do you know how long?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No, Sis, I don`t.

MISTY CROSLIN: You got income tax?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Even with my income tax, Sis, I still couldn`t get you out. You`re at a million dollar bond. Half that.

MISTY CROSLIN: But 10 percent would be $9,500.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m OK, like, you know, I don`t like being in St. Johns County because it sucks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How long are you locked down a day?

MISTY CROSLIN: All, but I get out two times a days for an hour. I had (INAUDIBLE) my health today so they`re going to be giving me some Zoloft or something. Some Prozac or something for my nerves and (EXPLETIVE DELETED). And she`s going to get out of lockdown. She said maybe I might be out of here tomorrow.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s cool.

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. Leonard Padilla or somebody`s trying to get out of jail or something like that?

(LAUGHTER)

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, but.

MISTY CROSLIN: But Robert doesn`t want him to because they`re just going to revoke my bond if I don`t give them what they want.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No.

MISTY CROSLIN: But I was told that he was in the process of doing something, too. Do you know that before they can bond me out, I have to go in front of the judge and make sure it`s not (EXPLETIVE DELETED) drug money?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: Tommy, too. All of us. Dude, you guys have to send me some money. I`m so hungry.

CHELSEA MISTY CROSLIN: OK. I promise. As soon as we -- hopefully we`ll get our taxes on our card tomorrow. And we`ll send at least $100.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m so hungry. They don`t feed you anything. I`m just so hungry.

C. MISTY CROSLIN: God, she`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) hungry. They`re starving her. Hold on. Here`s Tim.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Hello?

MISTY CROSLIN: Hey, Bubba.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Hey, Sis. How you doing?

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m hungry. We get to eat at four in the morning. We get to eat 11:30 and then we eat at four again in the afternoon. And that`s all we get to eat.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. (EXPLETIVE DELETED) food, huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. I be eating it because I be hungry.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: You got to do what you got to do to survive.

MISTY CROSLIN: I just want some (EXPLETIVE DELETED) good food. I`m going to prison, I`m telling you.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: For how long?

MISTY CROSLIN: Eight trafficking charges.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: I have eight trafficking charges.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: how long you think you`re going to do?

MISTY CROSLIN: About 21 years.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No. You`re not going to do 21 years.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m going to prison to. Donna is going to prison. Ronald is going to prison. We`re all going to prison, Tim. Unless I can come out and tell them something.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: Unless I come out and tell them something, that`s the only way I`m not going.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Well, what do you know, sis?

MISTY CROSLIN: Tim, I don`t.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: You don`t know nothing?

MISTY CROSLIN: No, Bubba. Have you guys talk to Robert Fields at all?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, we talked to him a couple of times.

MISTY CROSLIN: What is he saying?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t want to say on the phone.

MISTY CROSLIN: Am I getting a long time?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: Am I getting a long time?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No. It`s not -- nothing about that. I can`t talk on the phone, Misty, about it because it`s recorded and he doesn`t want no one to know.

MISTY CROSLIN: I got to be strong about this, you know?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, I know.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`ll be alright, Bubba. I`ll get out eventually. And I`ll be alright. This is a lesson, you know what I mean?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`m learning a lesson. I shouldn`t have did what I did. But it`s not my fault, because I shouldn`t be getting charged with all eight of them anyways.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I mean, who met this dude?

MISTY CROSLIN: John called me and asked if I could get it for him and I said, sure, you know? And then me and Ronald started doing it, and then Tommy did a couple of ones. And then, yes.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Misty, where was you when they got you?

MISTY CROSLIN: At Spinner`s.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: At Spinner`s? By yourself.

MISTY CROSLIN: No, Ronald. It was me and Ronald. I got eight counts, Timmy. I got eight of them. How come I`m being charged with all eight?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: You guys were just taking the guy to give some pills, right?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes. It wasn`t like weed, you know what I mean?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Whatever man. They`re (EXPLETIVE DELETED) just (EXPLETIVE DELETED) stupid. They wanted to get you. And then you (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up and they got you.

MISTY CROSLIN: Call Cobra. Cobra said he`s bail me out.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. And Cobra is trying to do it and your lawyer`s trying to do it right now, sis.

MISTY CROSLIN: So how long? When is Cobra going to come and get me out?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know. I don`t know. I`m just hearing this from (EXPLETIVE DELETED) your lawyer and who told you about Cobra?

MISTY CROSLIN: My lawyer said that he said that -- T.J. Hart`s thing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: $5,000.

(CROSSTALK)

MISTY CROSLIN: Robert says he has $5,000 so far?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: He said that he -- Chelsea said that he said he`s $5,000 short from getting you out.

MISTY CROSLIN: So we need -- come on. I know you guys got families. Chelsea`s got family, please look.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Huh?

MISTY CROSLIN: I know Chelsea`s got family, you guys all -- please get me out of here.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Misty, I`m trying, honey. I mean I hate seeing you in there, but there`s no one that`s going to give us (EXPLETIVE DELETED) $5,000 like that.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`ll pay it back.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. Don`t worry. You got to keep your head up, Misty. You got to stay strong, sis. They ain`t going to get you -- you`re not going to be in there forever. I mean there`s a possible that you could end up doing a couple of years, though.

MISTY CROSLIN: Did Chelsea got a hold of Cobra?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No. We haven`t got a hold of Cobra. But (EXPLETIVE DELETED) I forget who we heard from. Lindsay`s Lindsay, the girl that she used to go to school with in the white Grand Am, the white car with her? You knew her? Jennifer (EXPLETIVE DELETED). She`s the one who said that. Something, Cobra is trying to raise enough money to get you and Tommy both out of jail. Then I heard your lawyer was $5,000 short from getting you out of jail.

MISTY CROSLIN: I seen him yesterday.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know. Why in the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would you guys be doing that, man?

MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know. I`m locked down 24/7. I get out not even an hour. They just put me on some medicine. Thera-tex or something. For my nerves. And it`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) made me cold all day. You can`t -- o yes, another thing, you can`t use your blanket during the day.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: What?

MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, and (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Tonight, jailhouse tapes just released. Video and audio. Hours of Misty Croslin breaking down during visits with mommy, daddy, grandma, brother. All secretly caught on tape.

At this hour, investigators combing the video and auto for evidence that may help find Haleigh.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHELSEA MISTY CROSLIN: You`re not going to go away for that many years. They do have evidence on you. You know trafficking. But you`re a first-time offender and you -- you know, you can prove that you wouldn`t have been doing that if you weren`t just trying to help out a friend.

You weren`t trafficking. You were helping a friend get a -- you know, pills that he said he needed. So whatever, simple, OK?

MISTY CROSLIN: But that was an FBI, that was a cop.

CHELSEA MISTY CROSLIN: I know. I know, Misty. But it`s OK. Just focus on yourself. Keep going to church, doing what you`re doing, your lawyer`s working on it.

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Well, it`s good to see you.

TERESA NEVES, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD, HALEIGH CUMMINGS: It`s good to see you, sweetheart.

CUMMINGS: Sucks it`s like this.

NEVES: Yes, it does. I hate it.

CUMMINGS: I`ll be OK.

NEVES: Promise?

CUMMINGS: Yes, I`ll be home soon.

NEVES: Promise?

CUMMINGS: I don`t want to make a promise I can`t keep but.

NEVES: Don`t you have something to tell me?

CUMMINGS: Huh?

NEVES: Don`t you have something to tell me?

CUMMINGS: That I love you?

NEVES: No --

(LAUGHTER)

CUMMINGS: What?

NEVES: I don`t know. You said you had something to tell us.

CUMMINGS: No. Not really. I really don`t --

NEVES: Think she`s going to talk? Do you think she`s going to talk?

CUMMINGS: Well, this is between me and you, and whoever is listening to our recording, but, you know, they shouldn`t -- the cops are not just going to run out and tell nobody. If they do then they`re going to have the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) FDLE to deal with.

Anyway, so after that maybe they`ll do that recording, and the reason why they done it is because they went to the jail and was talking to her, and Jason said, man, I`ve never seen her cry. Real tears, you know, she always -- you know, has to jerk a tear out.

Jason said no, man, this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) was like pouring, and you know when it started? And I said when? He said when we started talking about you. Being locked up. And losing Junior.

He said she didn`t give two (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about her brother, her mama, her daddy, nobody. When I talked about you, being locked up, she started pouring them. And they were real. So.

He said and she said -- she was so proud to show everybody her tattoo, see, it says Ronald Sr.

NEVES: They made a big deal about that on all the TVs and everything. I said you got Misty in that cell over there which nobody else would do.

CUMMINGS: Nobody else could do.

NEVES: Yes. So you know, you`re just -- I`m very proud of you. Don`t you let anybody tell you that I`m not.

CUMMINGS: Well, the way I see it, I already told you.

NEVES: Yes, I know.

CUMMINGS: If one of the two of them, the whole time we figured it`s got to be one of the two of them. If it`s one of the two of them, then they got it pinned in a corner now because Crystal could wait six or eight months, she just pops up over here or wherever in Texas and move to Montana, whatever. You know and -- or the worst, so, either way we`ll know.

NEVES: Well, you just hang in there, baby. What are crying for, sweetheart?

CUMMINGS: Because I wish I knew where my daughter was.

NEVES: I know, honey. But we`ll find her. You know? One way or the other, like you said, one of them is going to mess up, so we`re going to find her.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: What`s up?

TOMMY CROSLIN, MISTY CROSLIN`S BROTHER: What`s up?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Chelsea said that she wants to know if she -- if you want her with the taxes to pay back or to spend it on bills or to come up here. That`s what Chelsea said.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: She needs to hold on to it for a minute and see if I get my bonds reduced, man, so I can get out of here.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, because I heard someone`s supposed to be trying to get you out.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, so she need to hold on to that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) money, because, you know, I got $700 of bond I can pay to get out and then I got to -- they go to drop the other bond down. I got two, three charges and two charges are (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, that`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) stupid.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Burglary of a dwelling and (EXPLETIVE DELETED) grand theft from a dwelling. I didn`t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) burglarize (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Prove it.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: And you know they might (EXPLETIVE DELETED) I don`t know if they did or not, but they might have (EXPLETIVE DELETED) questioned Lindsey about it. Does Lindsey know anything about it?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t know. I don`t do (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Prove it. You got fingerprints?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: even if Lindsey did, she can`t testify against you.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I don`t care if she does or not. They can`t prove (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Find some fingerprints, I didn`t do (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, I don`t see you breaking into (EXPLETIVE DELETED) houses. Come on. The (EXPLETIVE DELETED) cops are just out to get you guys for (EXPLETIVE DELETED) -- to get you guys for you guys -- try to make you guys squeeze.

You know (EXPLETIVE DELETED), you know who`s the one that set you guys all up?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Who?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: The one that we gave John and Linda. That`s who introduced Misty to the guy that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) --

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Oh I know.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: The undercover. So it isn`t Misty`s -- it is not Misty`s fault. I don`t think he -- I don`t know. You got that gun charge. You might end up serving (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a couple of years, bro.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. Three years probably. Maybe. I hope not. You ain`t heard from Misty?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes, she called us about 1:00.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Did she?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Yes.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I hope she don`t call the house.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No, I told her not to. She said she`s not going to. I said there was only one call left so Tommy needs to talk to Lindsey. She said she`s not. You know, but (EXPLETIVE DELETED) -- Misty wants to know are you on the third floor, second floor?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I`m on the same floor as her, I`m on the third floor.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: She`s on the third floor, too.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: All I know is if she keeps making up all these lies, I`m not going to have nothing to do with her. It`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) she`s trying to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) to put me in the middle of something I don`t know nothing about.

They ain`t got nothing to get you on, you can come up, dude. (INAUDIBLE)

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know but it`s just bad timing, dude, because Chelsea`s cleared of suspect, I`m not.

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: Oh well, you didn`t do nothing wrong, they can`t nothing to you. They can`t. They got to have proof, dude, and you didn`t do nothing anyway because they ain`t never going to be any proof.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No. Hell no. How long did I do stuff before that and nothing happened?

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. That`s what I`m saying so. I just think they`re just out to get us. That`s what I mean. You know what I mean?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know they are. But I think this time -- this time all this entrapment and stuff, they weren`t after me. They were after Misty and Ronald. I just got caught up in the middle of it because of my damn sister.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CUMMINGS: Because I wish I knew where my daughter was.

NEVES: I know, honey, but we`ll find her. You know? One way or the other, like you said, one of them is going to mess up, so we`re going to find her.

MISTY CROSLIN: I hope you guys can get me out.

HANK CROSLIN: They say you sold -- sold over 300 pills to the undercover.

MISTY CROSLIN: I`ve been the one -- the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.

CUMMINGS: If I found whoever has my daughter before you all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison. I`m telling you. You can put it on recording. I don`t care.

Maybe I`m a mistake you wish you had never made, huh?

(LAUGHTER)

NEVES: That`s the craziest thing I`ve ever heard. You`re one of my proudest moments. And your sister is the other. I love the two of you more than life.

MISTY CROSLIN: Man, I miss you guys. I`m stuck in this one little cell all the time. They just won`t even let me do anything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Misty said she`s going in general population. She`s crazy.

TOMMY CROSLIN: Yes, she -- Misty is going to get her little butt kicked. If she goes into general population, them girls are going to have their way with her.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know, but look, do you think any of this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) would have happened to you if this (EXPLETIVE DELETED) wasn`t going on in our lives about Haleigh?

TOMMY MISTY CROSLIN: No. Hell no.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But Misty -- when that girl could have possibly died from some of that (EXPLETIVE DELETED), Donna?

HANK CROSLIN: What are you doing, baby? No, don`t start crying please. I know. I wish I could get you out.

MISTY CROSLIN: 3:00 in the morning, I got up and -- I got up because I had to use the bathroom. I see the kitchen light on. And I walked to the kitchen and the back door is wide open. Haleigh`s gone. And she`s gone.

Please try to get me out of here.

CHELSEA CROSLIN: I know. We`re going to work on it. I promise.

MISTY CROSLIN: Get Cobra. You know he`ll get me out.

CUMMINGS: Man, if Misty has something to do with it, you know what she`s looking at? 114 years.

MISTY CROSLIN: I swear to God, (INAUDIBLE) I woke up and she`s gone. And that door was wide open.

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, SPENT TIME WITH MISSING HALEIGH`S FAMILY: Here`s the back screened door, the one that was propped open with the cinder block, OK? Now did you see when it close it slams, it makes a loud noise? But if you leave this door, this slowly closes as well.

MISTY CROSLIN: Call Cobra. Cobra said he`s bail me out.

TIMMY MISTY CROSLIN: I know. And Cobra is trying to do it and your lawyer`s trying to do it right now.

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ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL Aired February 18, 2010


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Brand-new charges for Misty Croslin: the former step- mom of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings pled not guilty at her arraignment today, and she was slapped with two more charges.

Here`s the brand-new video. Misty -- and take a look at her hair -- she has gotten that done in prison behind bars in jail, anyway. She now faces a total of eight drug trafficking charges.

Tonight, is she on the verge of cracking? Her dad saw her in court today, and says she looks scared and sad. That`s a far cry from this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MISTY CROSLIN, FORMER WIFE OF RON CUMMINGS: I will prove to the world that I didn`t have nothing to do with it.

LISA CROSLIN, MISTY CROSLIN`S MOTHER: Exactly.

M. CROSLIN: And when I get out of jail, everybody can kiss my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and I am going to get on TV and I`m going to tell them all to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) off.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`ll see how long that attitude holds.

Plus, mind-blowing new video of Misty Croslin behind bars. Cops say Misty is the key to finding this child.

Now, is her own family starting to doubt her dubious story? Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HANK CROSLIN, SR., MISTY CROSLIN`S FATHER: I pray for you every night. I pray for Haleigh, too.

M. CROSLIN: Yes, I pray for her every day, all day. I`m telling you, I do.

H. CROSLIN, SR.: I love that little girl. And I miss her, too.

M. CROSLIN: God is going to bring her home.

H. CROSLIN, SR.: God is going to bring her home?

M. CROSLIN: God is going to bring her home. That`s all we can do, is pray to God. Because he`s the only one, you know? It`s got to be his time, and in his time, he`ll do it.

H. CROSLIN, SR.: You think she can come home?

M. CROSLIN: Of course, dad.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It seems like Misty`s dad might be leaning toward, "Is my daughter hiding something?" Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

H. CROSLIN, SR.: I don`t want you saying nothing that will hurt you, Misty.

M. CROSLIN: I`m not, daddy. There`s nothing against me. I`m telling you.

H. CROSLIN, SR.: Your brother told me to tell you he loves you.

M. CROSLIN: I love him, too.

H. CROSLIN SR.: I wanted to get your brother out, too.

M. CROSLIN: Well, worry about me first, ok?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There she is, fixing her hair, kind of playing with her hair.

Plus, a family reunion in jail? Will the entire Croslin family end up behind bars?

We`re going to tell you why Misty`s mom has now landed in the big house, as well.

Straight out to my fantastic expert panel: HLN law enforcement analyst Mike Brooks; prosecutor Stacey Honowitz and joining me by phone, T.J. Hart, program and news director for WFKY, 97.3 FM.

T.J., you tracked this case from the start. What is the very latest?

T.J. HART, WFKY, 97.3 FM (via telephone): The very latest is you needed some running shoes today because the arraignment hearings were held for Misty and Ronald both entered not guilty pleas in court. While that was going on, Hank Croslin senior, Misty`s dad, was in another courtroom in the same courthouse on doctor shopping charges. While that was going on, mom was roaming the halls. She got arrested by the Pulaski police department this morning, landed in jail, on theft charges, dating back to right around Christmastime.

Lo and behold, it doesn`t get any better than this. She was bailed out by Leonard Padilla. Padilla and he brought them a car, cell phone, and is gave them a new place to live. And all this happened probably within about, oh, an hour and a half. And I needed some running shoes today. And it just gets crazier from there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And I see that Misty`s hair is braided. And I --

HART: Yes.

And I heard in the other tapes that were released the other day that she is getting a cell mate or somebody there to braid her hair. I thought she was in isolation.

HART: She is supposed to be in isolation. I don`t know how she got that done. I was trying to get through some of muffled audio from the previous DVDs that were released and she was talking about somebody cutting her hair. But she wanted her hair just braided.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Guess what T.J. they just told me -- my producer said they did her hair through the bars.

HART: Through the bars.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Through the bars. You cannot make this stuff up.

Now, is Misty a big liar? It sounds like her family is kind of used to perhaps Misty making up stories. Listen to this jailhouse conversation between Misty`s brother and her dad.

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HANK CROSLIN, JR., MISTY CROSLIN`S BROTHER: Oh, boy.

H. CROSLIN SR.: I don`t know if she knows anything or not. But --

H. CROSLIN JR.: She needs to tell the truth, man, and don`t be making up stories.

H. CROSLIN SR.: I told her that. Don`t talk to nobody but her lawyer, and just tell the truth and get it over with.

H. CROSLIN JR.: Don`t be making up stories on people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike brooks, It sounds like the family is getting fed up with this entire fiasco and wants Misty to crack, just as the police do.

BROOKS: You know, I think Hank Croslin senior, he does. And you look at Misty, though, Jane. How many polygraphs has she failed? She has failed two law enforcement polygraphs and one given by Texas Equusearch`s Tim Miller with a very well-respected polygrapher.

So she hasn`t told the truth at all, from the very beginning. She holds the key to this whole case, of where Haleigh is, or what happened to her that night.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Misty has been putting on a tough-girl act, but now she is frantic to get out of jail. Listen as she begs her dad to help her get out.

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M. CROSLIN: Well, just tell me what Leonard said.

H. CROSLIN, SR.: He wants you to call him.

M. CROSLIN: I can`t call him, because your number is the last number I can call. You guys tell him to get me out of here, and listen, I will talk to him. Tell him just to get me out, and if my lawyer doesn`t agree, to get me a new lawyer, because my lawyer isn`t doing anything anyways. So get me a new lawyer. Just get me out of here and write a thing saying he`s going to get me out and not revoke my bond and let me stay with you guys.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stacy, she thinks she can just get out of jail by begging for it.

(CROSSTALK)

BROOKS: She thinks Leonard Padilla can get her out of jail. And you know I talked to Leonard a couple of weeks ago. And he said yes, I`ll get her out. You know she talks to me. But we`ve heard that before in another case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stacey, ten seconds.

STACEY HONOWITZ, FLORIDA PROSECUTOR: Ten seconds. She`s not getting out, she better get used to the jail, because prison, she is looking at a 25-year minimum mandatory. That`s big girl`s court and she`s going to have a hard time there.

BROOKS: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: She`s in a very scary place and I think it`s just starting to dawn on her what is happening with her life. We`ll have more in just a moment.

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M. CROSLIN: If they give me 20 years in prison, it will be ok because you`re going to come see me. I`ll get out and everything will be fine. I`m not scared. I`m not scared at all.

L. CROSLIN: You`ll be old and gray like me.

M. CROSLIN: I don`t care. They`re not going to put me away for something I didn`t do. And I didn`t have anything to do with Haleigh.

And if I knew who did, I would tell them. I`ve told them everything that I can tell them so they need to leave me alone about that. Why I`m in this jail has something to do with Haleigh.

L. CROSLIN: That`s right.

M. CROSLIN: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) leave me alone.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Brand-new surveillance video from the undercover drug sting that sent Misty and Ron to jail. Here is the brand new video. Cops -- this is the undercover video -- cops say they nabbed Misty selling drugs to undercover officers seven times.

More than 300 pills were allegedly involved with a street value of almost $4,000. Now you are looking for the first time at undercover video of Misty when she was free, when she was out, before she was taken behind bars.

You know, Stacey Honowitz, this young lady is starting to realize that she is in deep doo-doo.

HONOWITZ: Yes, I think she is. You know, you go to jail and you`re looking at -- she had to have a meeting with her lawyer. And her lawyer had to inform her, you`re looking at a 25 year minimum mandatory. And that`s no joke. It`s very serious.

Is she starting to crack? I think we`re starting to hear that she`s not going to be able to take it in there much longer. I wouldn`t be surprised if somewhere down the road she does start revealing things.

You have to remember something Jane. She has given so many inconsistent statements all through this investigation. At some point it`s got to come back to haunt her. She couldn`t even describe why she gave different statements. She was asked on national television, why did you give a different statement one time as the other? She didn`t have an explanation. So I think we`re going to see slowly but sure new facts revealed.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here`s my big issue tonight: family fracture. Misty`s biggest support system was her own family. And now it seems like her dad is really starting to doubt her. Listen to this.

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H. CROSLIN, SR.: Promise, man, that you didn`t -- never mind, never mind, never mind.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Never mind, never mind, never mind.

On top of that, Misty`s mom was arrested today. Lisa Croslin in court with Misty`s dad who had a hearing of his own this morning. They arrested her on a warrant for theft charges. She eventually bonded out and is now out on probation.

T.J. Hart, and now we have Leonard Padilla in the mix. What do you know about what he is doing with Lisa, Misty`s mom, bailing her out? What`s the plan there?

HART: Well, actually he`s trying to build some kind of a comfort zone there so he can perhaps work his way into the good graces to get Misty eventually out and perhaps get her to tell a little bit more of what happened the night that the child Haleigh Cummings disappeared about a year ago.

But a cease and desist letter dated Feb. 17th says we`ve been informed that you had purchased all these things for Hank and Lisa Croslin and this is from Misty`s lawyer. And he says that, "Why do you still bother these folks, anymore?" And he says that Ms. Croslin has made it clear to him that she does not desire your assistance in this matter before she (INAUDIBLE) tells you to pretty much get lost.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`ve got --

BROOKS: Jane, they`re where they need to be, behind bars. That`s where they need to be. That`s where law enforcement needs them is behind bars. That`s it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s the solution. Thank you, fabulous panel for joining me tonight.


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