Not Guilty

[ScottyDo]

I am kinda leaning this way. To be honest, I most often lean this way. LOL

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[PatC]

No one here talking this case today? I'm disappointed.

[SaberGal]

I haven't made up my mind about this case as yet but I have a problem with both sides....

My problem with the state's theory is if I honestly think my husband is trying to kill me - and believe it so strongly that I tell people my fears, am I gonna stick around until the deed is finally done? And of course, on the flip side, I ask myself, would I really poison myself to death, a long and painful way to die, just to frame my husband for my "murder"??

[ScottyDo]

True....this is a tough case for both sides....nice to see you again, btw!


nice to see you too.

the bigger the challenge, the more enjoyment to watch. jmo

[need2no]

The parallel of this case to the Richard Lyon case is very interesting, and I also find it interesting that Tru TV has shown the Richard Lyon case 3 times in the past week (that I am aware of, it may be more). Well worth the read if you are not familiar with this case.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/richard_lyon/?link=CTVCL1

Richard claims his wife committed suicide with arsenic poisoning. I wonder if Mark Jenson was familiar with this case? BTW Lyon was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison. Perhaps Jenson thought he could set it up a bit better than Richard did, and actually get away with it.


IMO

[Greenlee]

I just started reading about this case today, because they are talking about it on tv, I think she set him up, I mean if she was mentally ill, and that phone call to the police that some black boys were passing out newspapers in the neighborhood bothered her? Did I even hear that right? And she was in a weird state prior to her death, I can see where some would look at the husband, but I think in this case she set him up.

[chambord]

No one here talking this case today? I'm disappointed.

I've been engrossed in it since the trial began. Its been quite rivviting. Lots of fabulous discussion over at In Session. There a few posters attending the trial today.

[kindee]

Julie Jensen was NOT clinically depressed nor suicidal. If anyone has other information, please advise.

[spike404]

Julie Jensen was NOT clinically depressed nor suicidal. If anyone has other information, please advise.

She could not have been, nor been, unless she had been diagnosed by a shrink; am I not correct?

[kindee]

She could not have been, nor been, unless she had been diagnosed by a shrink; am I not correct?



The only suggestion she was depressed or suicidal were Mark's claims.

Yesterday the pros. read her dayplanner and journal.

Mark out and out LIED to the LE about Julie's "depression".

I wish people would stop spreading lies. Do some research and pay attention to the evidence. This whole thread is just propaganda for a killer imo.

[johnielee333]

mark is GUILTY ! jmo

[kellabeck]

Will the OP please explain how exactly Mark Jensen is "not guilty"? I don't see it. All I see is a mountain of CE which condemns him.

[Bernie]

I just started reading about this case today, because they are talking about it on tv, I think she set him up, I mean if she was mentally ill, and that phone call to the police that some black boys were passing out newspapers in the neighborhood bothered her? Did I even hear that right? And she was in a weird state prior to her death, I can see where some would look at the husband, but I think in this case she set him up.

You can to that conclusion in one day of reading :INhouseReading04:....oh brother :duh:. She had been porno stalked for years...7 in total...she was fearful of strangers in her nieghborhood perhaps thats why she called the cops on the kids.

I dont think she actually totally believed MJ would kill ....I think the cops dismissed her fears which made her question herself.But no way is there any evidence that JJ set MJ up.:howdy:

[johnielee333]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenlee
I just started reading about this case today, because they are talking about it on tv, I think she set him up, I mean if she was mentally ill, and that phone call to the police that some black boys were passing out newspapers in the neighborhood bothered her? Did I even hear that right? And she was in a weird state prior to her death, I can see where some would look at the husband, but I think in this case she set him up.


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You can to that conclusion in one day of reading :INhouseReading04:....oh brother :duh:. She had been porno stalked for years...7 in total...she was fearful of strangers in her nieghborhood perhaps thats why she called the cops on the kids.

I dont think she actually totally believed MJ would kill ....I think the cops dismissed her fears which made her question herself.But no way is there any evidence that JJ set MJ up.:howdy:


Greenlee, you should read and/or watch the whole trial & hear all the things the pros has against mark before you make your claim that julie set him up. when you do you will see the truth.

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Bernie, thank you for what you said to Greenlee. I agree with what you said. i have watched the trial from day one & read all that i can about this case. Mark is Guilty !

[kellabeck]

I just started reading about this case today, because they are talking about it on tv, I think she set him up, I mean if she was mentally ill, and that phone call to the police that some black boys were passing out newspapers in the neighborhood bothered her? Did I even hear that right? And she was in a weird state prior to her death, I can see where some would look at the husband, but I think in this case she set him up.

Which fact that incriminates him did you dismiss then?

All the research he did into poisons and how to kill his wife?
His convos with a coworker before she died about how he was going to poison and kill his wife?
His sleazy affair with Kelly, his obsession with her and discussion about getting rid of "details"?
His not calling 911 even though his 8 yr old wanted to?
His turning his wife with her labored breathing over INTO the pillow?
His laughing and joking at her wake?
His high-fiving his father happily?
His trashing all her belongings?
His moving his paramour into the house within weeks?
His wanting her to attend his late wife's funeral?
His terrorizing her for years with porn and harrassing phone calls?
His trying to get someone to get rid of the coworker-witness?
His admitting the poisoning/smothering to a fellow inmate?
The state of her body which corroborates the poisoning/smothering?

Did you just reject all these facts because of hearing that Julie, having endured years of stalking, was a little paranoid about strangers?

I can't wait to read your reply.

[RayStar]

Kellabeck please check Greenlee's postings. He is fond of ANS. His post you quoted shows he in not well informed about Julie. If lDOIT MJ had not poisoned her brain with all of that weird stuff, she probably would never have thought 2 cents about the black guys. I do believe she may felt the same about skinheads. I'm trying to cover all the bases in naming these two groups. She did right in calling LE. She did not set MJ up he KILLED her!

[kindee]

I wish David would of told his teacher on December 3, 1998 "My Mom is so sick and my Dad won't take her to the hospital"! I guess he thought his friend Erik could help him better with this information??? I think 8 years olds are smarter now these days. JMO




David was not SMART enough? It's his fault?

I wish Mark hadn't killed Julie, that's what I wish.

[cavimom]

why did julie not tell any of her neighbors about her depression, past affair, fears of mark and so on but all of a sudden she spills her guts out to her kid's school teacher who she had only known for a few weeks? julie to me was a nut case.

Well, Scotty, I have an opinion for the first part of your post. I have a feeling that she WAS NOT depressed! The doctor may have written that she was clinically depressed to give her the prozac, librium and then paxil. I say this because she may have been ANXIOUS and having symptoms of generalized anxiety. Docotrs will say clinically depressed when a pt comes in with signs of generalized anxiety. I feel like this because.. For YEARS I have had an anxiety disorder. My PCP and therapist say that is am clincally depressed BUT I can assure you that I am NOT. I have been on Paxil, Elavil & valium which are meds for depression BUT I was taking them to ease the symptoms of anxiety. The part of her not telling is quite simple In my mind because having problems in a marriage are embarrassing. Also having anxiety disorder or panic disorder is also embarrassing because people who dont suffer with it cannot understand it. Its just your mind overtaking your body! You can't help it and its VERY frustrating!
When someone lends you an ear or shoulder and is NOT judgemental you feel exillerated to be able to "vent" and it can make you feel better... JMO of course. :duh:
As far as her being a nutcase..... Being tortured and acting acordingly does NOT make you a nut case... JMO of course.. & Its ok to have opinions :hifive:

[Pauli]

Just a reminder to all, it's in the TOS, there is no bashing of victims on this board.. we have family members that read here and that will not be tolerated. Use the victims name or initials only.

[kellabeck]

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of Julie's committing suicide and a TON OF INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE piling up against her murderous husband.

Defense fans live on ridiculous fantasies in support of killers.

[kindee]

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of Julie's committing suicide and a TON OF INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE piling up against her murderous husband.

Defense fans live on ridiculous fantasies in support of killers.




Maybe pigs fly. The "maybes" are beyond desperate.

[ScottyDo]

I still think Julie killed herself and all it takes is one juror to hold out and see past the smear agenda. JMO

[kindee]

and listening to evidence never changed your mind, ever.

smear agenda? It's called a murder trial.

[kellabeck]

If there's a "smear agenda" it's coming from the defense.

[kindee]

SWEEEEEET I just figured out how to use the ignore feature here!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

[ScottyDo]

If there's a "smear agenda" it's coming from the defense.

It happens in courtrooms everyday. God Bless America. If you don't like it, don't live here. JMO

[kellabeck]

SWEEEEEET I just figured out how to use the ignore feature here!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!


How?

Never mind. I was really motivated to get it done and found it in the user cp. FYI everybody!!

[Roamer]

Go to User CP and scroll down the left side until you see Buddy/Ignore lists.

[ScottyDo]

Thank, I will use it also.

[johnielee333]

I still think Julie killed herself and all it takes is one juror to hold out and see past the smear agenda. JMO

Nope julie didnt kill herself,mark killed her. JMO