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Tempus Teapot
01-22-2008, 04:46 PM
I just read this at TMZ.

I'm in complete shock.

R.I.P.

Greenlee
01-22-2008, 04:58 PM
I am shocked! How sad! I can't believe this!

kitty1182
01-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Wow...:(

Texas53
01-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Heath Ledger found dead in NYC apartment
28-year-old actor was nominated for Oscar for ‘Brokeback Mountain’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/

Pandabear
01-22-2008, 05:15 PM
http://www.accessatlanta.com/entertainment/content/shared-gen/ap/Movies/Obit_Ledger.html?cxntnid=bn_2008-01-22_16_59_id458_e


Heath Ledger Found Dead in NYC
By TOM HAYS
Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK — Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan residence, and police said drugs may have been a factor. He was 28.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said Ledger had an appointment for a massage at the Manhattan apartment believed to be his home. The housekeeper who went to let him know the masseuse had arrived found him dead at 3:26 p.m. <snipped>

How very sad. So much talent and now it's gone. What a waste.

Tempus Teapot
01-22-2008, 05:21 PM
It's just so unexpected. There are a couple of "celebrities" out there who I think a lot of people are waiting to hear this sort of news about, but Heath Ledger wasn't one of them.

moo

SaberGal
01-22-2008, 05:26 PM
How tragic. So young and so much potential. My favorite movie of his was The Patriot....

Trailblazer
01-22-2008, 05:27 PM
It's being reported that he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose...

Hmm sounds familar to me...

Greenlee
01-22-2008, 05:30 PM
It's being reported that he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose...

Hmm sounds familar to me...

It's an epidemic.

Tempus Teapot
01-22-2008, 05:30 PM
It's being reported that he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose...

Hmm sounds familar to me...

Yes, me too. Unfortunately, it happens all too often.

Battnt
01-22-2008, 05:33 PM
WOW...:1187603408.CR.Mothe

R.I.P Heath....:1222423:

Greenlee
01-22-2008, 05:37 PM
He was at Mary Kate Olsons apartment?

Trailblazer
01-22-2008, 05:42 PM
He was at Mary Kate Olsons apartment?

Fox is reporting that...but they haven't verified it yet.


ETA - Mary Kate has had a history of drug abuse also

SaberGal
01-22-2008, 05:42 PM
He was at Mary Kate Olsons apartment?

Huh? Fox is reporting his housekeeper found him dead at his Manhattan residence.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324696,00.html

african grey
01-22-2008, 05:43 PM
So young and so sad. He had such a life ahead of him.

RIP

AG

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Greenlee
01-22-2008, 05:44 PM
Fox is reporting that...but they haven't verified it yet.


ETA - Mary Kate has had a history of drug abuse also

Yes, she does, maybe he was renting the place, he was in town making a movie.

Greenlee
01-22-2008, 05:45 PM
Ok, TMZ just cleared it up, it wasn't her apartment.

emmeblu
01-22-2008, 05:46 PM
:1222423:Tragic:1222423:

Shocker!
OTC Sleeping Pills
Might be Mary Kate Olsen's apartment.

Left a 2 year old daughter, Matilda Rose, with Michelle Williams

emmeblu
01-22-2008, 05:46 PM
Ok, TMZ just cleared it up, it wasn't her apartment.

Thanks, CNN has not confirmed that yet.
Wondered what the connection might be with Mary-Kate.

Roamer
01-22-2008, 05:48 PM
I'm shocked.

RIP :1222423:

Pandabear
01-22-2008, 05:51 PM
CNN just reported that it is confirmed that he was in Mary Kate's apartment.

She is out of the country at a film festival according to them.

Trailblazer
01-22-2008, 05:52 PM
TMZ has confirmed that he did have a substance abuse problem...

Greenlee
01-22-2008, 05:54 PM
So it was her apartment, this is confusing, lol.

I remember being really shocked when I heard him and Michelle Williams had broken up, they met on that move, fell fast and had a baby, so quick. I wonder if his substance abuse broke them up, he adored that little daughter of his, I always see pics of him on the baby blogs with her.

So tragic.

Trailblazer
01-22-2008, 05:55 PM
So it was her apartment, this is confusing, lol.

I remember being really shocked when I heard him and Michelle Williams had broken up, they met on that move, fell fast and had a baby, so quick. I wonder if his substance abuse broke them up, he adored that little daughter of his, I always see pics of him on the baby blogs with her.

So tragic.


From the reports so far, he had been clean for a year...no rehab though

emmeblu
01-22-2008, 06:01 PM
From the reports so far, he had been clean for a year...no rehab though

I should not be surprised but, I am. Sad, sad, sad.
Drug abuse ruins so many lives both for the user and the people in their life.

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FDInLaw
01-22-2008, 06:06 PM
Had to read the thread topic several times before it sank in. . . so sad! :1222423: One really talented guy. :(

SaberGal
01-22-2008, 06:06 PM
I should not be surprised but, I am. Sad, sad, sad.
Drug abuse ruins so many lives both for the user and the people in their life.

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Same here. I shouldn't be surprised but I am. And it is very, very sad. He was just two years younger than me....

I understand that some people are more prone to drugs abuse than others but Hollywood seems to corrupt just about everyone. Tragic.

Hope
01-22-2008, 06:08 PM
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OMG, I am stunned!

Pandabear
01-22-2008, 06:09 PM
NOW CNN is retracting the story that this was Mary Kate Olsen's apartment.

They reported that he said in a recent interview that since filming the new Batman movie where he plays the joker, that he was having a terrible time sleeping. He is quoted as saying the character was "so demonic that it affected his very soul" and that's why he wasn't sleeping.

How very, very sad.

Pandabear
01-22-2008, 06:17 PM
My lord they are trying to move his body out and there so many people taking pictures that it's unreal. Good grief, what his family must be going through if they are watching this.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

Louise
01-22-2008, 07:25 PM
What a tragedy!

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Pandabear
01-22-2008, 08:19 PM
My lord, listening to all these people Nancy Grace has on tonight, it sounds like they are convinced he was a drug addict that was mixing drug and alcohol. They're even talking about foul play.

Good grief can't we just wait on the coroner's report before all this speculation hits the airwaves?

Oh well, I guess the truth doesn't make for good copy. Sorry but this frustrates me to no end.

Tempus Teapot
01-22-2008, 08:30 PM
My lord, listening to all these people Nancy Grace has on tonight, it sounds like they are convinced he was a drug addict that was mixing drug and alcohol. They're even talking about foul play.

Good grief can't we just wait on the coroner's report before all this speculation hits the airwaves?

Oh well, I guess the truth doesn't make for good copy. Sorry but this frustrates me to no end.

Sometimes I think it's Nancy Grace's job to stir things up, and the facts get in the way of her goal, so she brushes them aside.

moo

rem16
01-22-2008, 08:32 PM
My lord, listening to all these people Nancy Grace has on tonight, it sounds like they are convinced he was a drug addict that was mixing drug and alcohol. They're even talking about foul play.

Good grief can't we just wait on the coroner's report before all this speculation hits the airwaves?

Oh well, I guess the truth doesn't make for good copy. Sorry but this frustrates me to no end.

Unfortunately that is most likely the truth. I have seen many interviews today that point to the fact that he did have drug issues..Sometimes the most talented people have demons that they can't control.

Kami
01-22-2008, 09:06 PM
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Shocking to say the least......

Hope
01-22-2008, 09:17 PM
Personally, I don't believe he was an addict.

I do not know what caused his death, but until I hear otherwise, I'm sticking to my belief.

I pray for his daughter that this wasn't a suicide. I pray that her momma is strong enough to get her through this world without her daddy.

Hope
01-22-2008, 09:39 PM
This is where I first became enarmored with Heath...

RIP, HEATH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIW7WXPb-dc)

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Hope
01-22-2008, 11:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8G_C8S-NM

5boxersmom
01-23-2008, 12:56 AM
This is so sad. I loved the movie The Patriot.

For his little daughter.:1222423:

SaberGal
01-23-2008, 02:07 AM
I was wondering how long it would take for the WBC to jump in and say something stupid about this tragedy. Apparently only a few hours and they are already making plans to picket his funeral. This is one church that is disgusting, IMO.

For those who are not aware of who they are, it is a "church" (and I use the term very loosely) out of Kansas that first made headlines picketing the funerals of servicemen/women killed in action saying that their deaths are a direct result of homosexuality. They also were making plans to picket outside of Camp Lejeune, NC where the pregnant Marine was killed along with her unborn baby. Their web domain address says it all...

http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080122_heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain.pdf

rockford2
01-23-2008, 06:34 AM
they are reporting on the news this morning, that in an interview some months back, the actor commented on how he was having problems sleeping.

They don't believe it was suicide. Maybe he just took his prescription sleeping pills and just didn't wake up?

For this talented actor and his family. :1222423:

FDInLaw
01-23-2008, 07:15 AM
Thank you for posting the videos Hope!

Such a sad loss. . . a very talented actor. Prayers for his loved ones. . . :1222423:








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Hope
01-23-2008, 07:27 AM
I was wondering how long it would take for the WBC to jump in and say something stupid about this tragedy. Apparently only a few hours and they are already making plans to picket his funeral. This is one church that is disgusting, IMO.

For those who are not aware of who they are, it is a "church" (and I use the term very loosely) out of Kansas that first made headlines picketing the funerals of servicemen/women killed in action saying that their deaths are a direct result of homosexuality. They also were making plans to picket outside of Camp Lejeune, NC where the pregnant Marine was killed along with her unborn baby. Their web domain address says it all...

http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080122_heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain.pdf


That isn't a church. That is a POS hate group using God's name as reason to spread ugly.

They are like a bad outbreak of herpes.

Tempus Teapot
01-23-2008, 08:38 AM
I was wondering how long it would take for the WBC to jump in and say something stupid about this tragedy. Apparently only a few hours and they are already making plans to picket his funeral. This is one church that is disgusting, IMO.

For those who are not aware of who they are, it is a "church" (and I use the term very loosely) out of Kansas that first made headlines picketing the funerals of servicemen/women killed in action saying that their deaths are a direct result of homosexuality. They also were making plans to picket outside of Camp Lejeune, NC where the pregnant Marine was killed along with her unborn baby. Their web domain address says it all...

http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080122_heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain.pdf

Picketing a tragic death. That will endear them to the public. :lex_10:

:(

sweetcharlotte
01-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Morning paper........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=509837&in_page_id=1773&in_page_id=1773

LiveLaughLuv
01-23-2008, 10:03 AM
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Trailblazer
01-23-2008, 10:05 AM
Fox just reported autopsy inconclusive.

Greenlee
01-23-2008, 10:14 AM
Fox just reported autopsy inconclusive.

So basically it's going to be because of pills, its just which ones. So obviously it wasn't from the pneumonia. Or that was a contributing factor?

Trailblazer
01-23-2008, 10:26 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324785,00.html

Not a big fan of Friedman, but here's his article stating that Heath had a big problems.

Greenlee
01-23-2008, 12:38 PM
I just read on Perez, so take that for what its worth, that packets of a narcotic were found in his apartment, along with a narcotic laden dollar bill.

Kendall Hart
01-23-2008, 12:54 PM
How tragic. So young and so much potential. My favorite movie of his was The Patriot....

Mine too! He was awesome in that production!

SaberGal
01-23-2008, 03:41 PM
That isn't a church. That is a POS hate group using God's name as reason to spread ugly.

They are like a bad outbreak of herpes.

I couldn't agree more.

Greenlee
01-23-2008, 04:07 PM
Now they are reporting the allegations of the narcotic found on the bill was not true.

SaberGal
01-23-2008, 04:12 PM
Now they are reporting the allegations of the narcotic found on the bill was not true.

Most bills in circulation have some sort of drug residue on them so even if the reports are true, that in and of itself is not anything conclusive.

rockford2
01-23-2008, 04:14 PM
so this actor supposely had pnuemonia, xanax, Ambien, Valium, and now a $20.00 rolled up bill?

Why not wait to report anything until his autopsy is complete? This has got to be heartbreaking for his family. :1222423:

If he had pnuemonia, wouldn't he have been on a strong antibiotic??

rockford2
01-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Most bills in circulation have some sort of drug residue on them so even if the reports are true, that in and of itself is not anything conclusive.


Good point.

I just think that if the man died of a street narcotic, or whether he just fell asleep and never woke up, the news people should wait until the tests come in.

And this guy who writes that column? He leaves all these dangling thoughts and then moves on. So did the actor not care about his health? It's as though the writer knows exactly what he's talking about, but not wanting to put his thoughts on paper.

SaberGal
01-23-2008, 04:39 PM
Good point.

I just think that if the man died of a street narcotic, or whether he just fell asleep and never woke up, the news people should wait until the tests come in.

And this guy who writes that column? He leaves all these dangling thoughts and then moves on. So did the actor not care about his health? It's as though the writer knows exactly what he's talking about, but not wanting to put his thoughts on paper.

I agree - out of respect for his family and friends, speculation should stop until the ME/Coroner has done their job. Of course, that won't happen but it should.

Greenlee
01-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Did anyone see the article on TMZ, where its video of Jack Ncholson being told the news of the death, and he says, I warned him! I thought that was odd.

Hope
01-23-2008, 07:27 PM
I think it was an accidental overdose. Sleeplessness can result in nervousness and anxiety issues, thus the Xanax and Valium. Ambien is for the sleep disorder.

I have conflicting stories about Zoloft.

Zoloft and Xanax or valium is a lethal concoction in itself. Add Ambien to the mix and you have the recipe for an accidental OD.

He was jet lagged ,exhausted, overscheduled, and most likely anxious about promotion of his work and familial responsibilities.

This wasn't a suicide, IMO.

Perez Hilton is scourge.

Pauli
01-23-2008, 09:32 PM
So basically it's going to be because of pills, its just which ones. So obviously it wasn't from the pneumonia. Or that was a contributing factor?


I am wondering if he wasn't on some strong antibiotics for his pneumonia and also took his sleeping pills on top of them.. that could cause a reaction.

cbhope
01-24-2008, 12:09 AM
I am wondering if he wasn't on some strong antibiotics for his pneumonia and also took his sleeping pills on top of them.. that could cause a reaction.

Good point, Harlett. I can't wait for the toxicology results to come back.

emmeblu
01-24-2008, 02:32 AM
Thanks for posting the youtube video's. Tragic no matter the cause of death. What a talented young man Hollywood and the public has lost.

:1222423:For his family that must be devastated over Heath's death.
:1222423:For his little daughter Matilda

Topaz
01-24-2008, 07:12 AM
this whole thing is sad. Another loss.

If Heath were on Levaquin, and then used other drugs...and he had a genetic
tendency to long QT syndrome...that would do it.

Just like Daniel Smith. Levaquin is the typical drug used for community acquired pneumonia.

They do a prelim tox screen (like when you are in the ER) when the body arrives...then a more complete one after.
So I think they sort of know what the COD is.

For those interested:
http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros/drug-lists/drug-lists.htm#
Levaquin is in list #2.

These lists develop AFTER drugs have been on the market for a while.
The fact that a drug is not on the list, does not mean it is harmless...only that
reports have not been made yet on its potential. Many sudden deaths are
blamed on something else, so drug data is slow to accumulate.

It is always a terrible thing, when a young vital person dies this way.
So Sad!:1187603408.CR.Mothe

rockford2
01-24-2008, 07:53 AM
this whole thing is sad. Another loss.

If Heath were on Levaquin, and then used other drugs...and he had a genetic
tendency to long QT syndrome...that would do it.

Just like Daniel Smith. Levaquin is the typical drug used for community acquired pneumonia.

They do a prelim tox screen (like when you are in the ER) when the body arrives...then a more complete one after.
So I think they sort of know what the COD is.

For those interested:
http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros/drug-lists/drug-lists.htm#
Levaquin is in list #2.

These lists develop AFTER drugs have been on the market for a while.
The fact that a drug is not on the list, does not mean it is harmless...only that
reports have not been made yet on its potential. Many sudden deaths are
blamed on something else, so drug data is slow to accumulate.

It is always a terrible thing, when a young vital person dies this way.
So Sad!:1187603408.CR.Mothe


What is "Levaquin?" Is it an antibiotic? I don't remember that drug name when I was in the hospital with pnuemonia.

I've been on 'Xanax" for 14 years now, and it is HELL trying to get off of this horrible drug. I just out of the blue, started suffering from panic attacks just right before I found out I was pregnant.

I despise being on this drug, but I have to say it has saved my life. I could tell in interviews with Heath Leger, that he was very shy and uncomfortable talking with whomever interviewed him, and I also saw the 'signs' of his nervous habits.

I wrote about this on Court Tv. Pnuemonia is not something to mess around with. PLEASE......if you have a hacking cough or spit up blood, PLEASE ask your doctor for a chest x-ray. You could be walking around with pnuemonia and not know about it, which can be dangerous and sometimes deadly. Also, PLEASE let whomever treats your condition, whether it's the ER doc, or your personal physician, a list of ALL of your meds that you are on.

It is THAT important. :1222423:

Topaz
01-24-2008, 08:36 AM
Is a fluroquinolone antibiotic in the same family as Cipro. However, it only
needs to be dosed once a day (so this is convenient).

Most doctors give it to people with pneumonia. It is also available in IV version for hospitalized patients.

Drugs in combination that affect the heart rhythm (long QT) do not have to be taken in overdose amounts to create the situation of stopping the heart.

People who are dehydrated (low in magnesium and potassium) which often happens during illness can then have a QT event just from that and Levaquin.

Seldane, Hismanal and Propulsid have been removed by the FDA in the recent past because they caused long QT also.

Normal people can have an event, if dehydrated and taking a drug that causes this. But most people who die of long QT have a TENDENCY, and when a drug mix is taken (like Daniel Smith= Zoloft + methadone) this adds to the genetic tendency.

This is why people should not mix drugs, and especially in the recreational area...they have no clue as to what may happen. Overdose is not the only thing that kills, in other words. Methadone is being diverted alot these days, enough so that the FDA has taken the 40mg dose off the market. If Heath did that, methadone + zoloft+ levaquin, and was dehydrated, well....
Also at issue are drugs that depress breathing reflexes..and with pneumonia..valium would fall into that category, as dangerous.

I saw on CNN this morning that 6 drugs were found on the initial screening... but they did not report as to which ones. I think we will find that he had a mix that was deadly, for him.

rockford2
01-24-2008, 09:15 AM
Is a fluroquinolone antibiotic in the same family as Cipro. However, it only
needs to be dosed once a day (so this is convenient).

Most doctors give it to people with pneumonia. It is also available in IV version for hospitalized patients.

Drugs in combination that affect the heart rhythm (long QT) do not have to be taken in overdose amounts to create the situation of stopping the heart.

People who are dehydrated (low in magnesium and potassium) which often happens during illness can then have a QT event just from that and Levaquin.

Seldane, Hismanal and Propulsid have been removed by the FDA in the recent past because they caused long QT also.

Normal people can have an event, if dehydrated and taking a drug that causes this. But most people who die of long QT have a TENDENCY, and when a drug mix is taken (like Daniel Smith= Zoloft + methadone) this adds to the genetic tendency.

This is why people should not mix drugs, and especially in the recreational area...they have no clue as to what may happen. Overdose is not the only thing that kills, in other words. Methadone is being diverted alot these days, enough so that the FDA has taken the 40mg dose off the market. If Heath did that, methadone + zoloft+ levaquin, and was dehydrated, well....
Also at issue are drugs that depress breathing reflexes..and with pneumonia..valium would fall into that category, as dangerous.

I saw on CNN this morning that 6 drugs were found on the initial screening... but they did not report as to which ones. I think we will find that he had a mix that was deadly, for him.


good lord! I had no idea...

Thanks for the info, Topaz.

concerto
01-24-2008, 09:18 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/24/tmz-is-live-at-frank-e-campbell-funeral-chapel/

TMZ has a live feed set up in front of the funeral home where there will be a viewing later on today.

This is a new low.

Roamer
01-24-2008, 09:34 AM
It's a low, I agree, but look at this link. Media is already preparing Brit's obit.

I think that's the new low.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22727961/

rockford2
01-24-2008, 09:35 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/24/tmz-is-live-at-frank-e-campbell-funeral-chapel/

TMZ has a live feed set up in front of the funeral home where there will be a viewing later on today.

This is a new low.

O M G!

I hope somebody asks these people to leave.

rockford2
01-24-2008, 09:37 AM
It's a low, I agree, but look at this link. Media is already preparing Brit's obit.

I think that's the new low.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22727961/

I read about this. Wonder how this makes Ms. Spears feel? i hope she wants to help prove them wrong, but this is just despicable, as is setting up a camera for the funeral of Mr. Leger.

NoseKnot
01-24-2008, 09:53 AM
Ledger's Death Strikes Chord With Many

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIpakwzfkOjhrnSi2f7fpgdZp6CQD8UBRM3O0


Tests on Heath Ledger to Take Days

There were six different types of prescription drugs in the room, including pills to treat insomnia and anxiety, and an antihistamine, according to two law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

A rolled-up $20 bill was found on the floor near the bed, but New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said lab tests found nothing to indicate the bill had been used to snort drugs. Police also said no illegal drugs were found in the apartment.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h_k1n_zmAFHkxYYOBmztTgWLpDIgD8UC989G1

Roamer
01-24-2008, 10:04 AM
Have you guys seen this? :shock:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22813570/

Church Plans to Protest Ledger's Memorial Service
Courtney Hazlett
The Scoop


The radical Baptist church known for picketing the funerals of American soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq has announced that they intend to protest Heath Ledger’s stateside memorial service because he played a gay character in “Brokeback Mountain.”

“You cannot live in defiance of God. He (Ledger) got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it's OK to be gay,” said Shirley Phelps in a statement sent out by the Topeka, Kan.-based Westboro Baptist Church.

The only compelling reason to ignore Westboro Baptist’s reprehensible intentions is that highlighting the vast inappropriateness of their thoughts and actions only brings the church more publicity. However, if the members of Westboro Baptist get to speak their minds, every individual who feels that this is an affront to most basic standards of human ethics should be able to as well.

Story continues below ↓
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concerto
01-24-2008, 10:12 AM
Yes Roamer, I saw that this morning. Sickening, isn't it???

concerto
01-24-2008, 12:03 PM
TMZ has taken down their live feed. The site was being bombarded with protests.

LiveLaughLuv
01-24-2008, 12:18 PM
TMZ has taken down their live feed. The site was being bombarded with protests.


Prostests about what? What did I miss?

This was a tragic accident, he was depressed and going through a split with his lady. Why make this into a three ring circus?

I just don't get it!

concerto
01-24-2008, 12:46 PM
Prostests about what? What did I miss?

This was a tragic accident, he was depressed and going through a split with his lady. Why make this into a three ring circus?

I just don't get it!

TMZ had set up a live feed outside the funeral home. They were trying to stop people on the street and get them to talk about Heath's death. There is supposedly going to be a viewing later on today and they had their cameras and mikes set up so they could interview the family and friends as they came to the funeral home.

People were bombarding TMZ's website, demanding that they remove the camera because it was so intrusive and rude. I'm surprised that TMZ took it down. They are so brazen.

Roamer
01-24-2008, 12:53 PM
Good for the people who complained, and I'm glad they took it down. That should prove to them that people who read their site like celebrity news, not intrusions into their private affairs.

concerto
01-24-2008, 01:05 PM
When I saw the site early this morning there were already 7 pages of very strong protests. There was not even one post supporting TMZ's actions.

SaberGal
01-24-2008, 03:05 PM
Have you guys seen this? :shock:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22813570/

Church Plans to Protest Ledger's Memorial Service
Courtney Hazlett
The Scoop


The radical Baptist church known for picketing the funerals of American soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq has announced that they intend to protest Heath Ledger’s stateside memorial service because he played a gay character in “Brokeback Mountain.”

“You cannot live in defiance of God. He (Ledger) got on that big screen with a big, fat message: God is a liar and it's OK to be gay,” said Shirley Phelps in a statement sent out by the Topeka, Kan.-based Westboro Baptist Church.

The only compelling reason to ignore Westboro Baptist’s reprehensible intentions is that highlighting the vast inappropriateness of their thoughts and actions only brings the church more publicity. However, if the members of Westboro Baptist get to speak their minds, every individual who feels that this is an affront to most basic standards of human ethics should be able to as well.

Story continues below ↓
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Yeah I saw that. You should see the flyer the "church" made up to advertise their plans for his funeral - absolutely disgusting.

I'm wondering when these people will start paying up the millions of dollars they lost in a civil suit last year to a service member's father whose son's funeral they ruined.

LiveLaughLuv
01-25-2008, 09:33 AM
TMZ had set up a live feed outside the funeral home. They were trying to stop people on the street and get them to talk about Heath's death. There is supposedly going to be a viewing later on today and they had their cameras and mikes set up so they could interview the family and friends as they came to the funeral home.

People were bombarding TMZ's website, demanding that they remove the camera because it was so intrusive and rude. I'm surprised that TMZ took it down. They are so brazen.

That's a good thing. I too am surprised Harvey Levin complied, but then again, I think he's fair and balanced.

This is a time of mourning, last thing the family needs is a three ring circus. I hear he will be taken back to Austrialia, Perth Austrialia to be buried. May God Bless his Soul.

gibbrishclown
01-25-2008, 09:39 AM
I truly hate westboro baptist cult. They're the pigs that protest our soldiers' funerals and they tried to protest the amish kids' funerals, but some arrangement was made with a radio station IIRC for them to spout hate for an hour or so instead. They make my skin crawl. I can't wait for them to die and burn in a fiery pit... boy will they be shocked. I don't hate many people... especially strangers, but I hate this family, the Phelpses.

concerto
01-25-2008, 10:22 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20173804,00.html

Quotes from Heath's family... Bless their hearts.

Greenlee
01-25-2008, 10:24 AM
I truly hate westboro baptist cult. They're the pigs that protest our soldiers' funerals and they tried to protest the amish kids' funerals, but some arrangement was made with a radio station IIRC for them to spout hate for an hour or so instead. They make my skin crawl. I can't wait for them to die and burn in a fiery pit... boy will they be shocked. I don't hate many people... especially strangers, but I hate this family, the Phelpses.

Well, the funeral is in NY right? Will he be buried in NY? Maybe so his daughter can visit him, or is he going to Australia, either way, If anything happens in Australia I would just not let them in the country since they aren't there for any good reason.

Pretty Leaf
01-25-2008, 10:45 AM
From what I heard last night he is being waked in NY, flown to Australia for a funeral and then back to NY to be buried.

gibbrishclown
01-25-2008, 11:47 AM
Well, the funeral is in NY right? Will he be buried in NY? Maybe so his daughter can visit him, or is he going to Australia, either way, If anything happens in Australia I would just not let them in the country since they aren't there for any good reason.


I wish we could ban them from our country. They turned hate into a religion so they could hide behind freedom of religion, an American right. :mad:

SaberGal
01-25-2008, 01:35 PM
From what I heard last night he is being waked in NY, flown to Australia for a funeral and then back to NY to be buried.

I hope you are right for the family's sake. Either way, this group will cause as much trouble as possible but funerals are something that should be as private as the family wishes and should never be turned into a political hate rally no matter who it is.

SaberGal
01-25-2008, 01:40 PM
I truly hate westboro baptist cult. They're the pigs that protest our soldiers' funerals and they tried to protest the amish kids' funerals, but some arrangement was made with a radio station IIRC for them to spout hate for an hour or so instead. They make my skin crawl. I can't wait for them to die and burn in a fiery pit... boy will they be shocked. I don't hate many people... especially strangers, but I hate this family, the Phelpses.

I would not say that I hate them - I reserve that for very few people. But they are truly disgusting and certainly do not represent the large majority of Christian's - nor do they represent or reflect Christ. Their actions and deeds are reprehensible.