Police Dog Stabbed, But Survives

[Roamer]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080123-9999-1m23dog.html



By Pauline Repard
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

January 23, 2008

San Diego police fired bean-bag rounds last night at a man who then stabbed a police dog in City Heights, authorities said.


An officer fired one round from his pistol at the man, but missed. The man was taken to a hospital and treated for a dog bite and bruises.
The confrontation occurred at the Travel Lodge motel on El Cajon Boulevard near 50th Street about 8:45 p.m. Officers were investigating reports that a man had been waving a knife and threatening to stab people.

Officers spotted a man with a knife in one hand on a third-floor landing of the motel. An officer shot him twice with a bean-bag round to disarm him.

Police next radioed that the man was sitting on the landing with the knife still in one hand. They yelled orders at him, unleashed a police dog, and one officer fired a pistol at the man.

Next door at 4 Seasons Food Store, manager Munir Abdullh said he heard two gunshots and looked outside. He saw an officer with a dog in his arms run to a patrol car, put the dog inside, then speed away.

The dog was taken to an animal hospital for treatment of two stab wounds, police said.

Paramedics took the man to Scripps-Mercy Hospital.

Police contacted a man and a woman who said the man had come close to them with his knife, but they were not injured.

An Oceanside police dog was killed on the job Dec. 31 when a man grabbed him and jumped off the San Diego-Coronado Bridge. Cory Byron, 27, accused of leading officers on a pursuit from Oceanside, survived the 200-foot fall, but Stryker, the dog, did not.

Staff writer Jose Luis Jiménez contributed to this report.

[Kami]

I love police dogs. I have so much respect for them and their partner. Not an easy way to live. So glad he is gonna be okay.

[maryhaze]

i have 2 ex-police dogs, they are smarter than most people i know. i'd like to have 10 minutes with the dirtbag who stabbed him, he'd be hit with worse than beanbags. Where did i put my throwing knives?????

[Roamer]

I like the way you think, Mary. :)

[PatC]

i have 2 ex-police dogs, they are smarter than most people i know. i'd like to have 10 minutes with the dirtbag who stabbed him, he'd be hit with worse than beanbags. Where did i put my throwing knives?????

I'll "spell" you when your arm gets tired, Mary.

I made my dreaded trip to Wal-Mart today and as I was going in the door there was a gentleman with a Service Dog leaving. He was just transferring from one of the W-M motorized carts to his personal wheelchair. I couldn't help myself. I paused and watched. I didn't hear the command he gave the dog to get him to back into position but then he told the dog (who looked like a GSD-mix) to "Brace", then he grabbed what I can only describe as a "handle" on top of a saddle-type affair on the dog's back and used it to pull himself up and off the scooter as he swung over into his wheelchair. He then clipped a lead to the chair, took hold of the "handle" and told the dog, "Forward". The dog pulled and off they went out the door.

I am just incredibly impressed with these service animals and I got goosebumps watching him. Another lady was standing next to me as dumbstruck as I was and I looked at her and said, "Incredible, wasn't it?"

She said that she'd seen them in the store and other places before. She said the man told her he'd trained the dog himself.

His "saddle/harness" said, "Service Dog, Please Do Not Pet"

Sometimes I think our animals deserve better than mere humans to hang out with. :)

[rockford2]

I'll "spell" you when your arm gets tired, Mary.

I made my dreaded trip to Wal-Mart today and as I was going in the door there was a gentleman with a Service Dog leaving. He was just transferring from one of the W-M motorized carts to his personal wheelchair. I couldn't help myself. I paused and watched. I didn't hear the command he gave the dog to get him to back into position but then he told the dog (who looked like a GSD-mix) to "Brace", then he grabbed what I can only describe as a "handle" on top of a saddle-type affair on the dog's back and used it to pull himself up and off the scooter as he swung over into his wheelchair. He then clipped a lead to the chair, took hold of the "handle" and told the dog, "Forward". The dog pulled and off they went out the door.

I am just incredibly impressed with these service animals and I got goosebumps watching him. Another lady was standing next to me as dumbstruck as I was and I looked at her and said, "Incredible, wasn't it?"

She said that she'd seen them in the store and other places before. She said the man told her he'd trained the dog himself.

His "saddle/harness" said, "Service Dog, Please Do Not Pet"

Sometimes I think our animals deserve better than mere humans to hang out with. :) how true, Pat.

Dogs are just incredible with what they can learn to do for humans.

[awakening2lite]

They know us so well. They know our emotions, facial expressions, tone of voice, hand signals, whistles, whines and a vast number of words. They also follow pointing.

And then there's us. We can boast knowing about 1/10 of what they are communicating.

I think how we judge/value intelligence needs to be reconsidered, but then our ego may not be up to it.

:22wink:


:1222423: for the police dogs

I hope the dogs who was stabbed survived.

[Roamer]

He did, A2L. This is the same department where the guy jumped off the bridge with the police dog a couple weeks ago. The perp survived. The dog didn't.

[awakening2lite]

Thanks Roamer. That department is certainly having their dogs hard hit. Poor dogs, I can't help but feel for them. They only want to please us, even if it means paying the ultimate price.

BTW is really like your signature.

[Ross]

They know us so well. They know our emotions, facial expressions, tone of voice, hand signals, whistles, whines and a vast number of words. They also follow pointing.

And then there's us. We can boast knowing about 1/10 of what they are communicating.

I think how we judge/value intelligence needs to be reconsidered, but then our ego may not be up to it.

:22wink:


:1222423: for the police dogs

I hope the dogs who was stabbed survived.

Thank God i wasnt a K-9 officer,i would have ,oh never mind what i would have done you hurt my dog.
Yes my dogs have me very well trained.Did you ever see a little Korgie herd cattle? they have a lot of guts niping at the legs of the cattle from behind & when the cattle kick back the dog is so small the kick goes over the dogs head.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/boomer1942/puppywalking.gif

[awakening2lite]

Thank God i wasnt a K-9 officer,i would have ,oh never mind what i would have done you hurt my dog.
Yes my dogs have me very well trained.Did you ever see a little Korgie herd cattle? they have a lot of guts niping at the legs of the cattle from behind & when the cattle kick back the dog is so small the kick goes over the dogs head.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/boomer1942/puppywalking.gif

I have seen some short clips of them, but never in person. Aren't they also the fav dogs of Queen Elizabeth? I've seen them in the dogs shows, too.

Your avatar is great!

[Roamer]

Thanks, A2L. I read it years ago, and loved it.

Ross, I like your new avatar. No, I would never think of a Corgi herding cattle, LOL. I'd be afraid he'd get stepped on.

[Ross]

Thanks, A2L. I read it years ago, and loved it.

Ross, I like your new avatar. No, I would never think of a Corgi herding cattle, LOL. I'd be afraid he'd get stepped on.


Hi Roamer how are you doing? Oh ya they are cattle herding dogs that heard from the back,unlike others that front the cattle.They are small but powerful dogs & i love my little dogies.
Semper fi

[Ross]

I have seen some short clips of them, but never in person. Aren't they also the fav dogs of Queen Elizabeth? I've seen them in the dogs shows, too.

Your avatar is great!


Come on out & watch them work. :happy0207:I dont know about the Queen.

[Ross]

Thats my girl.Just a picture i found in the bucket.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/boomer1942/corgidec8.jpg

[awakening2lite]

That's a beauty!
I can see why you adore your doggies!

Ok, I'm packing now!

[awakening2lite]

My puppies!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p145/hawthornrats/crufts%202007/Cresteds/DSCF4719.jpg
(photo bucket) This looks a lot like my Mokii, PowderPuff Chinese Crested

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g53/dragonflygypsy/tinners.jpg
(photo bucket) This looks similar to my Teddy, HL Chinese Crested

[Ross]

My puppies!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p145/hawthornrats/crufts%202007/Cresteds/DSCF4719.jpg
(photo bucket) This looks a lot like my Mokii, PowderPuff Chinese Crested

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g53/dragonflygypsy/tinners.jpg
(photo bucket) This looks similar to my Teddy, HL Chinese Crested


Nice dogs.I just love dogs.

[Ross]

That's a beauty!
I can see why you adore your doggies!

Ok, I'm packing now!


Dont forget your suntan lotion:)

[Roamer]

Love it when I see pics of beautiful, well cared for, happy dogs. Thanks for sharing your babies.

[maryhaze]

my dogs look mostly like my avatar! especially when i'm annoyed.:D

[awakening2lite]

my dogs look mostly like my avatar! especially when i'm annoyed.:D


:) Hi Maryhaze

Did you post that you have an ex-police dog?

If it was you, would you share the story behind that? I've always wondered how those wonderful dogs are placed. TIA

[maryhaze]

i've actually got 2 ex's. the first Max came in when he was about 3. he bit someone off duty & the handler didn't want him so gave him to another detective. who was no brighter than the handler. max bit 2 of this guys friends. one thought is was ok to enter the detectives home when they were out to look for sunglasses. DUH, trained police dog on duty. the other was when they were having a party & put max in the backyard. typical idiot wants to go see him & the wife told him not to. guy says, "i'm good with dogs". he wasn't that good & got bit. i've had him for over a year & he is a doll but he doesn't like anyone outside the family without a proper introduction. he's one of the best family dogs i've ever seen, sleeps with my kids when he can & my nickname for him is maxi-pad. because thats what he is. love him to pieces.

the other is Eric. he's 9 & came from indiana. he was retired when he developed a peri-anal fistula. it will eventually kill him, his meds are almost $700/month & he also had a couple off duty bites. someone on the town board wanted to put him up, a little old lady got involved & somehow got my number & i managed to get him. this was last summer & it was written up in the Lebanon, Indiana paper, i think it's called the courier.

these are the best dogs but i've had to learn some german. it's actually cool because my 9 yr old son has taken german since first grade, so he corrects my pronounciation. i'll always for room for these dogs because they have given so much of themselves, they deserve a happy ending. now, my name is out there & the depts are open to me. another benefit is i'll never have to worry about my kids bringing drugs into my house.:) maybe i'll rent my services out the the kids friends parents when they get older. $100/bedroom search.:girl_haha:

[awakening2lite]

Great story, Maryhaze!!! Thanks for telling it.

What would your advice be to someone thinking about getting an retired Police dog?

(I'm not) but I am curious because of your experience.

[maryhaze]

first of all, you would have to jump thru hoops to get one. most police depts are very careful about where they place these dogs because of their training. there really are a couple words that could be yelled that would cause these dogs to attack. another thing that you need is experience in dealing with the breed. gsds are individuals like any other dog, but there are breed generalities & most depts look for a certain type of dog with the right drive. these dogs generally don't make good pets. most are curious, hyper & way too damn smart. experience is probably the most important thing. i fell into this with no special training. i love the breed, got way too involved in rescue & discovered that i have a knack for rehabbing aggressive dogs. sadly, even "normal" gsds are way too much for some people to handle & these dogs are so smart that they deteriorate in kennel situations very quickly. they become "kennel crazy" & can become aggressive or fearful. most police dogs stay with their handlers once they have retired, but some handlers can't keep them. i can tell you one thing, retired k-9s never forget their training. you should see my guys when they hear a siren. COPS is a must-see show on saturday nites. :)

[awakening2lite]

Thanks, Maryhaze.
That does give one pause to think about the prospect of adopting a highly trained police dog.

They give so much.

Thanks for your candid and straightforward account of what they are like and the skills required to give them a good home. I congratulate you for the kindness you have in your heart and generosity of your wallet, for the skills you have developed and for providing wonderful home where they can still be themselves.

[Roamer]

I have a visual of all Mary's dogs in front of the TV, watching Cops. :)

I saw a documentary on TV several years ago called War Dogs. Soldiers telling of their experiences with their dogs, how many tried to bring them home, were not allowed to do it, and so many were abandoned and left, after they'd saved so many lives.

Many of them were crying as they told the stories. So was I. It was heartbreaking.

[maryhaze]

i have the DVD of that but can't bring myself to watch it. but if you want a visual, picture this. the kids were watching "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" (the musical with george clooney) the other day. when the KKK scene comes on, the labradoodle gets up & stands in front of the tv & watched the whole scene. i know this dog came from a bad background, but that really made me wonder. & laugh, a lot. he's a very strange dog.:waitasec:

[Roamer]

I suggest you don't watch it, Mary. My heart just broke for those dogs, and the soldiers who had to leave them behind.

Aren't dogs great? LOL, maybe he didn't like those white sheets. There isn't a day goes by that mine don't make me laugh. Sometimes I think they're too smart for me. Hell, sometimes they are.

[maryhaze]

when my gsds gang up on me, i'm totally in trouble. they like drinking out of the toilet (:puke:). one will open the bathroom door & another will lift the lid. i've given up, this is a battle i cannot win. dh will complain how gross it is, i tell him to be the bathroom monitor for a while. because if i'm guarding the bathroom door, that frees the rest of them up to get into something else. :0009:

[Roamer]

My three don't drink out of the toilet. My problem is, they all have their own water and food bowls, but two water bowls don't get touched, because they all drink out of one. Two of them are big dogs, and that bowl is always empty. I fill that sucker umpteen times a day, and more in the summer. And it's a damned big bowl. If I didn't know they'd knock it over, I'd but a bucket in there.

Ah, I just like to complain. I wouldn't trade them for anything. :)

[Noahs ARK]

My three don't drink out of the toilet. My problem is, they all have their own water and food bowls, but two water bowls don't get touched, because they all drink out of one. Two of them are big dogs, and that bowl is always empty. I fill that sucker umpteen times a day, and more in the summer. And it's a damned big bowl. If I didn't know they'd knock it over, I'd but a bucket in there.

Ah, I just like to complain. I wouldn't trade them for anything. :)

My dogs LOVE to drink out of the toilet. I think the water is colder.

We have a HUGE bowl in the kitchen that everyone shares, besides the toilet, and I'll bet I fill it 10 x a day.

During the summer I fill an old wash basin with water and keep it in the shade. The tub is a thick metal and keeps the water cold, cold, cold. They love it almost as much as the toilet water. :basic45:

[awakening2lite]

Mine can't reach the toilet water, thank goodness!

My male drinks 4 x's as much as the females. Guest that's because he has so many things to water in the yard. :D

I loves 'em all!

[maryhaze]

have i mentioned that i have an old (14ish) female chow who lifts her leg & marks over all the boys marking in the yard? she is very dominant, puts the B in itch.:girl_haha:

[carolinablue]

I suggest you don't watch it, Mary. My heart just broke for those dogs, and the soldiers who had to leave them behind.

Aren't dogs great? LOL, maybe he didn't like those white sheets. There isn't a day goes by that mine don't make me laugh. Sometimes I think they're too smart for me. Hell, sometimes they are.

I've always said my dog, Dakota, knows every trick she's learned before I do! She justs waits for me to figure it out! LOL

[Roamer]

have i mentioned that i have an old (14ish) female chow who lifts her leg & marks over all the boys marking in the yard? she is very dominant, puts the B in itch.:girl_haha:


Mary, I have a 15 year old female Chow who does the same thing! Always has. Never, ever have I seen her squat like females normally do. She's very dominant, too. Dang, I'm glad to hear she isn't the only one who does that.

[SaberGal]

I have two dogs...my female, a chow/cocker/retriever mix is nearly 6 and is spoiled rotten - I had nothing (everything, actually) to do with that! I begged my hubby for 3 years before he consented to letting me get a puppy and Stormy and I literally locked eyes and fell in love at the local humane society. She's extremely sharp and never misses an opportunity to be a kiss up. She was our "only child" for 3 years and then we decided it was time to have another (puppy). Now, we didn't seek her consent or permission for this to happen and needless to say, she was a little miffed when we brought Simba home but she's recovered from her shock for the most part. Simba is a Dane/Boxer mix, dumber than a box of crayons and is always scaring himself. But, what he lacks in smarts, he makes up for in pure sweetness. He is always waiting around for a command simply so that he can follow it and make us happy. A refreshing change from Stormy who really just waits around for the treats - I love her but she doesn't have me fooled.

Simba is 3 now and still squats like a girl when he pees. He's done that ever since he was a pup and I'm wondering if anyone else has a male that does this? I always thought it was because he was just copying Stormy?? Any theories?

[SaberGal]

My three don't drink out of the toilet. My problem is, they all have their own water and food bowls, but two water bowls don't get touched, because they all drink out of one. Two of them are big dogs, and that bowl is always empty. I fill that sucker umpteen times a day, and more in the summer. And it's a damned big bowl. If I didn't know they'd knock it over, I'd but a bucket in there.

Ah, I just like to complain. I wouldn't trade them for anything. :)

My two do the same thing - there are two water bowls but they prefer to share one and always drink at the same time. They are on different dog food's for their different needs but if given the chance, they would eat out of the same bowl too. Because of this, I have to feed them in different rooms.

I, like you, wouldn't trade mine for anything in the world!

[maryhaze]

SaberGal, males will squat if they are neutered young (before the marking urge hits) & if they've never been around males that lift their legs. we'll bring in males that squat, but they usually start to lift after watching the rest of the village idiots. Simba sounds really cute (hint for pictures) & the dumb ones are usually fun to have. the boxers, rottis & pits provide a nice change from having to always being alert with the gsds, chows & labradoodle. those guys are just too smart.