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Texas53
02-03-2008, 03:06 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/5509450.html
What is it with these kids killing their parents? :shock:
LiveLaughLuv
02-03-2008, 03:10 PM
OMG! Must be an epidemic going on, this is the second today.
Somebody has to do something for our youth. They are supposed to be our future!
Oceanblueeyes
02-03-2008, 10:36 PM
OMG! Must be an epidemic going on, this is the second today.
Somebody has to do something for our youth. They are supposed to be our future!
What makes me cringe is these parents have no protection from these murderers who resides inside their own homes. How in the world can they ever protect themselves when their mind just doesn't think that their very own child may be the enemy and do such a depraved thing?
And I have noticed it isn't the abused neglected child but more and more it is the child that seem to have a good, decent and supportive family.
Just like the teen that killed all four family members in his family and then left to be with his friends while his mom, dad and little brothers lay dead by his hand.
It is so frightening. Some seem to be like the walking dead filled with such dark concealed thoughts stewing within them.
imoo
Texas53
02-03-2008, 11:06 PM
What makes me cringe is these parents have no protection from these murderers who resides inside their own homes. How in the world can they ever protect themselves when their mind just doesn't think that their very own child may be the enemy and do such a depraved thing?
And I have noticed it isn't the abused neglected child but more and more it is the child that seem to have a good, decent and supportive family.
Just like the teen that killed all four family members in his family and then left to be with his friends while his mom, dad and little brothers lay dead by his hand.
It is so frightening. Some seem to be like the walking dead filled with such dark concealed thoughts stewing within them.
imoo
After something like this happens, family members or friends close to the victims wonder why they didn't see any signs. Sometimes there are no signs.
Boscorelli
02-04-2008, 06:46 AM
Hi TEXAS 53
There are always red flags,it is just that people haven't seen them,untill it is to late.
OHIO vs.JOHNSON Several years ago,more than 5,a 16 year old girl,took a shot gun,blew her mother's eyes out. Her father heard the gunshot;came out of the bathroom,with a towel about his waist and the very last thing he saw;was this 16 year old daughter with a shot gun aimed at him.
Her parents didn't like her 19 year old boyfriend. He was illegally here in the country,to begin with,had a drug problem and had sex with her.THe father was going to go to the police and file a 'statutory rape' charge against her boyfriend. So she murders the parents.
She was found GUILTY of 2 counts of 1st degree murder and is doing LWOP. Her brother would inherit the $500.000.00 estate.Since she is a convicted murderer.
In his witness impact statement,her brother told his sister,he never wanted to see or hear from her again.She was dead to him.The tragedy was the 16 year old daughter was 'daddy's little girl'
The Menendez Brothers murdered their parents actually executed them;so I agree with you,Texas 53;it isn't always the 'neglected/abused child but children in general.
THe parents are responsible,most parents have not fully prepared themselves for all the demanding responsibilities/obligations that parenthood bestows on them.
So they play the BLAME GAME point the finger at the schools,teachers and every excuse going,to fit their needs.
THe JOHNSON & JOHNSON Corp. many years ago came out with the following statement. " a child will change your life,for the rest of your life.'
Today teenagers think sex is a 'rite of passage as well as useing drugs/alcohol. The parents are poor 'role models to begin with.
This problem will continue,to infect our society. boscorelli
I have no CHILDREN BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT ANY CHILDREN PERIOD.
Texas53
02-04-2008, 07:29 AM
I think a huge problem we have is that parents always want their kids to have better then they did, but what they had wasn't bad at all. In many homes there is no structure or rules. So people demand the schools and society take care of their problems for them. Then if the kids gets in trouble at school or arrested for a petty crime, its everyone elses fault but the kid and the parents. Drugs and guns are so easy to get now more then buying soda. However, people, I don't care how old your kids are, you need to keep guns locked up and out of sight.
The police stated he showed no remorse when arrested.
emmeblu
02-04-2008, 03:39 PM
Kids killing parents and parents killing kids. WTH?
A couple was killed by their teenage son about 10 years ago here. There were no warning signs. He got mad one night because they would not let him go somewhere and he got the gun and killed them both.
Just a crying shame. JMO
Texas53
02-04-2008, 09:18 PM
I read in our local paper today that because of his age, even being tried as an adult, the Death Penalty is not an option. I just hope whenever he does get out whether it be not guilty due to insanity (I don't even know if they have that type of situation in MD) or after being convicted and serving a prison sentence and getting out later, he doesn't kill anyone else.
Boscorelli
02-05-2008, 06:09 AM
Hi Texas53
There is nothing wrong with a parent's desire,to give their childrem,the 'advantages' they didn't have;the problem is how they go about it.
Giving into to every materialistic whim and fancy,is just as bad as not provideing a well balanced financial security for the child/ren
I am glad he is being held as a adult and the DEATH PENALTY,is no option.
in an earlier post,I mentioned the OHIO vs, Johnson case. With the internet,the 1-800 hot-line help lines,before/after school counseling/activities;there was help available.
People kill because they want to kill Period.There is so much violence on TV,computer games etc.
We are what we think.When parents permit their children to watch endless hours of violence,without supervision;what do you expect???
I myself came from a 'horrible family'. When I was 10 years old,I put my 'PLAN I WANT OUT OF HERE" in action. I stayed in school,didn't give them any trouble,got a job,saved money;then at age 21 walk-out and never looked back.
They are all DEAD now,THANK GOD for that.
When he is convicted,and let's say he is given the DP;it won't happen right away.He has shown no remorse,according to the police;maybe he never will.
Even if he does,sometime in the future;he can never undo the MURDER
Always nice talking to you Boscorelli
Texas53
02-05-2008, 10:23 AM
True there is nothing wrong with wanting to give a child better then the parent had. But what about love and guidance and attention? Most often objects are given and substituted instead of what the child needs because the parents are too busy in their own world, want someone else to do it or just don't care as long as they can get the kid out of their face. Then in many cases, a monster has been raised. In today's society, kids are shown that guns solve the problem. If you get mad at someone or you feel they have done you an injustice, just kill them!
We know thats not the way to solve problems, but our society has glorified violence and guns through movies, adds, and even some people by their own behavior. IMO
Boscorelli
02-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Hi Texas 53
You and I are on the same page on this one.Love,guidence and attention;why that is just to time consuming.
It is not that the parent is to busy;their PRIORITIES are all backwards.
So they blame the schools,teachers and society in general;but never themselves.
Although I have no children of my own,by CHOICE, I do understand that it is not easy raiseing children TODAY;but they made a conscienous CHOICE.=sexual urge..
And that is the message that is given;if someone annoys you or bothers you,just KILL them.
Most people unfortunately regret haveing children,so they abuse them;what they fail to understand,they planted the seeds of violence and aggression and one day a murder is committed.
Nice talking to you,Boscorelli
Texas53
02-05-2008, 04:54 PM
Every once in awhile I will do substitute teaching with elementary kids. You would be surprised at the parents who don't have time to feed the kids before they drop them off, get downright irrate if you have to call them and let them know the kids are sick and need to be picked up, are too busy to schedule a teacher's conference to go over the kids school work or any problems, and will late the kid sit until 5:30 because they forgot to tell the other parent to pick the kid up. This is the so-called Gucci area of town. Not the poor side of town. :rolleye0001:
They expect the school system and anyone else to do their jobs at parenting and caring about their kids. Its really sad. Then they're insulted and shocked when the child grows up and become Jack the Ripper!
Boscorelli
02-06-2008, 05:53 AM
Hi Texas 53
No my friend,I am not suprised,I work in the medical records dept. of a large city hospital. Everything you have stated,is subatantiated in the medical record.
The medical records reflectes the calls from the schools about children,who are not being 'properly fed a good breakfast,lack of proper clothing for the season etc.This is all classified under CHILD ABUSE[[/B]
The school's doctor/nurse also provides the hospital with the above mentioned subjects of parents refuseing to pick up their children,when they are sick,the lack of 'parental concern' for the teacher/parent/child confwrences. The fights,bullying and drugs that become part of the child's school record,hospital record and in time the court record.
It is a vicious cycle and there are no winners just LOSERS.As I stated on and earlier post.I have no children,because I WANT NO CHILDREN.
I know two teachers,who have also told me the 'horror stories' of the negligent parent and it's affect on the child/ren.I relate to them what I see in the medical charts.
The pediatric psychologists & psychiatrists state,that the parents need
parental training courses,as well as supervised child care classes.
I give you a lot of CREDIT for being a TEACHER.I couldn't do it. Just give me my desk job,my computer and leave me alone to work in peace.
As always nice talking to you.:mornincoffee:Boscorelli
Claudia
02-06-2008, 08:08 AM
I do in home daycare, and it is amazing how little parents care about raising their children. I have them bring sick children to me, they drug them up in the morning so the fever doesn't come back until almost time to go home. These babies need to be home in their little beds with their Mom taking care of them when they're sick!
One parent was pregnant, she had a baby girl a couple months premature. I was talking to her about 2 weeks after she gave birth, and she was saying how she wished she could go back to work, she was tired of being home with the baby. Unbelievable. We struggled for years just so I could stay home with my son. I didn't go to work until he went to school. The parents also leave them until the last possible minute to pick them up. I don't understand not wanting to be with your child. I want to spend every minute I can with my son, and he's a totally obnoxious pubescent 12 1/2 year old!
There's one little boy I have had since he was 6 months old, he's 4 now. The mother has not had a job since he started coming here. He comes everyday from 8AM to 6PM without fail. The grandparents pay the bill, and she goes & plays all day.
It's very sad, and I feel so bad for these kids.
KittyMom
02-06-2008, 12:11 PM
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/02/05/spearman0206.html
Family members were stunned by the news that the couple's only child, 18-year-old Josh Spearman, who had been adopted from Romania at an early age, had been arrested Saturday and charged with their murders.
"We embraced Josh into the family," Woolley said. "We're so conflicted, and feel so much hurt as a family. We loved Josh. We still love him. We really don't know what to think."
Cherri, 52, was "a loving, Godlike woman" who was active in her church, Woolley said. She also was a successful businesswoman who battled breast cancer even after it returned and recently entered the terminal stage.
"Cherri was terminal, but she wasn't living like that," Woolley said.
Josh Spearman had "disciplinary issues with his parents over the years," Woolley said, but added, "they were trying to do their best."
Funeral services are scheduled for 1 p.m. Thursday at First Baptist Church of Loganville.
The mom had terminal cancer...somehow that makes this even sadder.
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Boscorelli
02-07-2008, 06:48 AM
Hi Claudia,
I do understand your concerns about the negligent parent who doesn't want to take responsibility for their children.
You mentioned that parents bring their 'sick' children into your daycare center. THis is a form of child abuse.I urge you,to speak to a hospital about these 'legal concerns'.Every STATE has rules and regulations that must be strictly followed and must be reported.
Why don't women want to stay home with their children? Simple,they bought into the LIE of the woman's lib;that they must make something of themselves,climbing the corporate business ladder. To stay at home,to wash dishes,clothes and change diapers,is being 'less' than their potentical.
Have a nice day Boscorelli
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