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Pauli

10-12-2007, 10:36 PM

By David Lohr (http://www.crimelibrary.com/about/authors/lohr/index.html) April 26, 2007

PAXTON, IL.

Two women who vanished nearly a decade apart may be linked together. There are several similarities in the two disappearances, and police say the same man is considered a person of interest in both cases.
On the evening of March 9, 2007, Jamie Harper, 20, left her mother's house with a male companion and traveled to a party in Rantoul. She left the party the following morning, and no one has seen her since. Jamie's mother, Susan Kehrer, reported her missing the following week.

"Her friend was supposed to bring her home the day after the party, but he never did," Susan said in a telephone interview with Crime Library yesterday afternoon. "I waited to report her missing because there were times in the past where she stayed out for a couple days."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/0407/jamie_harper/Jamie-Harper(1)200.jpgJamie Harper

Susan was reluctant to give any further details about her daughter's case, for fear of saying something that could jeopardize the investigation. Before she hung up, she had this to say: "I don't think I should say anything else without talking to the police. I am still hoping she ran off."

Not long after her disappearance, police received a tip from an anonymous caller that Jamie had overdosed, and her body had been disposed of in an area southeast of Paxton known as Dogtown. The location is well known to veteran investigators. It has been the site of numerous missing persons searches over the years and, in 1984, they discovered the body of Cindy Mizell, 24, in the woods surrounding Dogtown. Her former husband, Kenneth Mizell, then 27, and his wife, Diana, 30, were later convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. For their crimes, they were sentenced to six years in prison.

The search for Jamie began at Dogtown on March 18. The Paxton Police Department, Ford County Sheriff's Department, Gibson City Fire Department, Gibson City Police Department, Paxton Fire Department, Douglas County Search & Rescue, and officers from the Department of Conservation & Law Enforcement and the Division of Fisheries all participated in the three-day search.

"Dogtown contains three gravel pits," Paxton Police Chief Robert G. Bane said in a telephone interview with Crime Library yesterday. "One is active and two are old and unused. There are waterways out there and a lot of wooded area. On the first day, we conducted a massive ground search by foot and with the use of all-terrain vehicles. There were 42 officers and volunteers on the scene."
http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/0407/jamie_harper/Paxtom-Illinois-map200.jpgPaxtom Illinois Map

Over the course of the next two days, cadaver-sniffing dogs were brought in to assist in the search, and officers from the Department of Conservation & Law Enforcement and the Division of Fisheries deployed sonar-equipped boats to examine the bottom of the ponds.

"We ran the bottom of the pits with sonar and the dogs on top of the water. Then Hummingbird [a manufacturer of sport fishing depth finders] had a professional fisherman come up to assist us, who is an expert on the sonar. They searched the water with assistance from Vermillion County Search and Rescue. They also ran cameras into the pits, searching areas of interest. They found a couple of old boats, but nothing of interest to the case," Chief Bane explained.

Chief Bane admitted that he is concerned about foul play in Jamie's disappearance, but he stopped short of naming her date as a suspect. In regards to that question, he had "no comment." Again, when asked if she had left the party with her date, he had no comment.

"He was interviewed, but I cannot comment on him past that," Chief Bane said. "The Rantoul Police Department conducted search warrants on different types of things on vehicles and houses. People who were at the party and things like that. We also did a ground search from the location of the party, north through some fields, but nothing was found."
According to Chief Bane, there are similarities between Jamie's disappearance and that of another young woman who vanished without a trace nearly a decade ago.

According to police, Jamie stands 5 feet tall and weighs about 130 pounds. She has brown hair and brown eyes. She has a nose ring and a tribal design tattoo on the small of her back.

Anyone with information in the disappearance of Jamie Harper is asked to call the Paxton Police Department at (217) 379-4315 or the Rantoul Police Department at (217) 892-2103.

Pauli

10-13-2007, 08:27 PM

RANTOUL - Investigators are checking leads in the search for a missing woman. They hope one of those tips will solve the case of Jamie Harper. Harper is from Paxton, but was last seen at a party in Rantoul during the early morning hours of March 10th. The party was in the 1300-block of Laurel Drive. In recent weeks, police have launched a massive search for Harper after getting a tip. They've searched rural ponds in Ford County, even the Dogtown Pits. Justin Bouse from the Rantoul Police Department says, "We've receiving numerous leads. Some say Jamie is safe and doesn't want to be found. We're also receiving leads that say foul play is involved." Bouse says investigators are looking at every lead and the search for Harper has gone national. Her name is now listed on a national database for missing people and police have checked with the National Crime Information Center and even Court TV has done a story. Harper has been missing for more than two months. If you have any information on her whereabouts, call Champaign County Crimestoppers at 373-TIPS. You don't have to give your name or testify in court and a reward is offered.

Pauli

10-13-2007, 08:33 PM

Jamie Harper Latest
Reported by: Jenny Gastwirth WCIA 3

Wednesday, Oct 3, 2007 @06:19pm CST

"I don't care who you are," said Roz Anderson. "They all deserve the same amount of treatment." Anderson says she's fed up after a national search team steps in to recover a missing mother from Sadorus and still no word on Jamie Harper. "Nobody's heard anything," she said. Those who worked with Harper at the IGA store in Paxton say they're doing their part to help by posting signs throughout town. "People are still on the lookout," said Linda Glad. "There's been a few spottings, but I don't think those have really amounted to anything." Anderson agrees. "When she first went missing it was a big deal, but then it just kind of went away," she said. So much so some people fear Harper's been forgotten. "I work here," said Anderson. "I'm here 6, 7 days a week and I haven't even heard her name cross the restaurant in a few months." Police say that's not the case. Finding Harper is a top priority and they have the manpower on hand to prove so. Sergeant Jeff Wooten says his department has used ATVs, state police, airplanes, radar systems and dogs to help. Despite the efforts, some people say that's not enough. Many wish a group like Texas EquuSearch would come to their town. "Anything that would help find this girl because she was a really nice girl," said Glad. So could it happen? "Anything possible," said Wooten.

http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=8802

Pauli

10-13-2007, 08:35 PM

Jeremy Ramm & Michael Zimmerman were co-defendants in 1995 for possessing alcohol by minors...

RAMM JEREMY
Birth Date: 05/26/76

Criminal CHARGES History - Champaign County, Illinois

04CF01926 - AGG BATTERY/PUBLIC PLACE
02CF01535 - 01 OBSTRUCT JUST/DESTROY EVIDENCE
02 VIO BAIL BOND/FAMILY MEMBER
95CF00347 - 01 BURGLARY
02 THEFT
95CF00361 - RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY
95CM00156 - .L. POSS/ALCOHOL BY MINOR
02CM00846 - 01 DOMESTIC BATTERY/BODILY HARM
02 DOMESTIC BATTERY/BODILY HARM

There is more, he apparently goes by the name Jeromy as well as Jeremy.

Jeremy/Jeromy Ramm is in Illinois Department of Corrections serving a 5 year sentence as we speak...

The POI in the Heather Zimmerman case and consider a POI in the Jamie Harper case at one point is...

http://i23.tinypic.com/13yp7gz.jpg

Jeremy/Jeromy Ramm's parents still live at his childhood home in Rantoul on County Road 3000N, just south of the gravel pits.

NOTE THE ADDRESS, JAMIE HARPER WAS LAST SEEN IN THE 1300 BLOCK OF LAUREL DRIVE IN RANTOUL...

By The News-Gazette
Monday, July 2, 2007 10:57 AM CDT

URBANA – A Rantoul man remained in Champaign County Jail this morning after being arraigned Thursday on charges in four different crimes.

Jeromy Ramm, 31, whose last known address was in the 1300 block of Laurel Drive, was arrested in Florida on warrants issued June 1 for residential burglary, theft and burglary.

Jeromy/Jeremy Ramm ticketed in May 1994 driving a green 1993 Mitsubishi with Plate # MEZ 883.

Michelle Zimmerman

Person of interest in Heather Zimmerman's case (Perhaps Jamie Harper's) Jeromy Ramm's Address on May 21, 1997 (Parents still reside at this address) just five days before Heather's disappearance;

1979 CO RD 3000N
RANTOUL 61866

Jeromy was ticketed on that day in Fisher, Illinois driving a white 1987 Plymouth...

STATE OF ILLINOIS
Information:
File Date: 05/23/97
Court Room: L
Next Appearance: 06/23/97 10:30
Offense Date: 05/21/97

Arresting Agency: VLG FISHER
Officer Number: 00655
Officer Name: REYNOLDS
Plate Number: FBB 714
Registration State: IL
Registration Year: 97
Car Information: 87 PLYMOUTH WHITE
Location: 200 BLK W PARK ST FISHER IL

Here are all of the criminal charges against Jeromy/Jeremy Ramm

02/02/95 U.L. POSS/ALCOHOL BY MINOR (Dismissed)
Co-defendant - Michael W. Zimmerman (Heather Dawn Zimmerman's ex-husband)

03/17/95 01 BURGLARY (24 mos. probation, 60 days County Jail)
02 THEFT (Dismissed)
03 RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY (Dismissed)
Co-defendant - MEDLER BRADLEY S

07/13/98 (All charges dismissed)
01 AGG DISCHARGE FIREARM/OCC BLDG
02 FELON POSS/USE WEAPON/FIREARM
03 RECK DISCH FIREARM/ENDANGERS

07/06/02 01 DOMESTIC BATTERY/BODILY HARM (Dismissed)
02 DOMESTIC BATTERY/BODILY HARM (30 days County)

06/24/03 DOMESTIC BTRY/BODILY HARM PRI (200 days County)

10/19/04 AGG BATTERY/PUBLIC PLACE (2 YRS DOC - DNA SAMPLE TAKEN)

12/26/06 BURGLARY (5 YRS DOC W/70 DAYS CREDIT, $27933.64 RESTITUTION) http://i23.tinypic.com/13yp7gz.jpg

Pauli

10-15-2007, 07:45 PM

It has been said that 'JD', Ryan and Josh Nibbe's younger brother, 'brags often' about his brother's role in the disappearance of Jamie Harper!

"He claims to have killed someone in Rantoul a while back, and they found the body, but not the killer, and now he is sayin that he is the one who killed Jamie and dumped her in the pits in Paxton

Tear drop tattoo's as seen in the IDOC image of Ryan Nibbe;
http://i23.tinypic.com/2r3jc0k.jpg (http://i23.tinypic.com/2r3jc0k.jpg)

Tear drop tattoo as per Wikpedia;

"Often, it signifies that an individual has killed another person"

OR/AND

From the IDOC website profile on Ryan Nibbe (note the underlined text)...

MARKS, SCARS, & TATTOOS
TATTOO, FOREARM, RIGHT - CANE/5 DOTS/"LOVE"/EYEBALL
TATTOO, ABDOMEN - HOPEY (BROKEN HEART LEG)
TATTOO, HAND, LEFT - INVERTED FORK (NECK/"WHITE BOY")
TATTOO, BACK - CANCER (CHEST/"LIL RYE")
TATTOO, ARM, RIGHT UPPER - CROSS/"JD-JOSH"/FACE/"LOVE"

Date: June 17, 2002

Publication: Herald & Review (Decatur, IL)
Page: A4

DECATUR - A Decatur man was recovering in a hospital Sunday after being stabbed several times. Police said Ryan Nibbe, 23, was in "serious but stable condition" at Decatur Memorial Hospital after being stabbed shortly after midnight outside a house in the 400 block of East Peoria Ave. He received wounds to his leg and abdomen.

Sgt. Wayne Hughes said details on what happened aren't clear and not much was learned from the victim before he underwent surgery...

RYAN NIBBE;
Offense Date 10/27/2000
Count Description 01 BURGLARY
Disposition Guilty - 3 YRS DOC W/ CREDIT FOR 4 DAYS

Offense Date 6/1/2005
Count Description 01 BATTERY/MAKES PHYSICAL CONTACT
Docket Entries HAVE NO CONTACT whatsoever, directly or with Gerrardo Wolfe
Disposition Guilty - 24 MOS PROB

Offense Date 5/20/2006
Count Description 01 UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT
Docket Entries 06-25-07 CRIMINL/CS PROBATION VIOLATION REPORT ON FILE
Disposition Guilty - 24 MOS PROB - 44 days County Jail - Credit for 44 days

Offense Date 9/13/2006
Count Description 01 AGG DUI/NO VALID DL
Disposition Guilty - 2 YRS DOC

Offense Date 11/13/2006
Count Description 01 UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT
Count Description 02 DOMESTIC BATTERY/BODILY HARM
Disposition Guilty - 180 DAYS CCCC W/ 38 DAYS CREDIT

Offense Date 6/24/2007
Count Description 01 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY HARM
Docket Entries HAVE NO CONTACT whatsoever, directly or indirectly with Ward P. Birch or the address of 1333 Laurel Dr.
Disposition EX PARTE - No appearance by Defendant

JOSH NIBBE;

Offense Date 1/20/1999 (12 years old)
Count Description 01 RETAIL THEFT

Offense Date 11/26/2000
Count Description 01 CURFEW

Offense Date 1/4/2001
Count Description 01 THEFT
Count Description 02 CURFEW

Offense Date 11/11/2005
Count Description 01 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL CONTACT
Dockety Entries 04-25-07 Probation Violation Report on file.
Disposition Guilty - 49 days County jail, credit for 49 served

Offense Date 4/1/2007
Count Description 01 OPERATE UNINSURED MTR VEHICLE
Address 317 N SCOTT APT 3 THOMASBORO IL 61878
Vehicle 2003 Blue Dodge Neon - Plate # 908 7547
Disposition EX PARTE - No appearance by Deft.

Offense Date 4/1/2007
Count Description 01 UNLICENSED
Address 317 N SCOTT APT 3 THOMASBORO IL 61878
Vehicle 2003 Blue Dodge Neon - Plate # 908 7547
Disposition EX PARTE - No appearance by Deft.

Offense Date 4/17/2007
Count Description 01 UNLICENSED
Address 1313 BRIARCLIFF RANTOUL IL 61866
Vehicle 2003 Blue Dodge Neon - Plate # 908 7547
Disposition EX PARTE - No appearance by Deft.

Offense Date 4/23/2007
Count Description 01 UNLICENSED
Address 1140 N CENTURY APT 15 RANTOUL IL 61866
Vehicle 2006 Grey Dodge Durango - Plate # 728 5691
Disposition EX PARTE - No appearance by Deft.

Grande

10-16-2007, 12:46 AM

Ryan Nibbe was paroled on JUNE 20TH 2007 and not but 4 days later later an order of protection was filed against him by the alleged host of the party his brother Josh attended and where Jamie Harper was last seen.

Pauli

10-17-2007, 08:44 PM

SEARCH FOR MISSING PAXTON WOMAN

Investigators are remaining remarkably tight-lipped, but they are saying the received new information about the Jamie Harper.

Rantoul's Police Chief says they're looking for trace evidence.

He says that could be a body or clothing among other things, but he wouldn't say whether police have found anything.

Their search is centralized on the West side of Route 49, just North of Route 136 in Vermilion County.

Rantoul Police are being assisted by Paxton Police and the Vermilion County Sheriff's Department.

http://www.wicd15.com/news/news.shtml#news1 (http://www.wicd15.com/news/news.shtml#news1)

Pauli

10-17-2007, 11:57 PM

Searching For Harper

Reported by: Charles Vance/WCIA 3

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 @07:00pm CST

http://illinoishomepage.net/media/gif/JamieHarperMUGlarge.gifRantoul police are investigating a possible lead in the search for a missing Paxton woman. Twenty-year-old Jamie Harper disappeared back in march. Police say a tip lead them to an abandoned garage along Highway 49 in Vermilion County. Several officers and search crews from Rantoul were out Wednesday searching the area around the garage with shovels, sifting through the dirt. Rantoul Police Chief Paul Farber says Wednesday's search turned up nothing. He says he is unsure whether officers will return for another search of the area. There have been several leads and tips in the past leading to searches around ford and Champaign County in rural ponds and the gravel pits near Paxton.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=9135

Pauli

10-18-2007, 12:14 AM

It's appx. 14.5 - 15.0 miles to the 'abandoned garage' where the most recent search took place. (West side of Hwy 49, just north of Rt. 136)

Yellow star denotes the location Jamie was last seen (1300 block of Laurel Drive)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h169/avataralley/missing/x2a33k.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h169/avataralley/missing/qrmc0n.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h169/avataralley/missing/30vorjr.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h169/avataralley/missing/23kxlh.jpg

Pauli

10-18-2007, 09:24 PM

Harper Search Has Whole Town Talking
Reported by: Matt Franzblau/WCIA-3

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 @09:03pm CST

http://illinoishomepage.net/media/gif/JamieHarperMUGlarge.gif(PAXTON)---A new search renews hope the family and friends of Jamie Harper can finally get some answers. Harper disappeared after a party in Rantoul back in early March. Wednesday police acted on a new tip in the case by digging around an old barn near Armstrong in Vermilion County. Police say they didn't find anything, but it did get neighbors in Paxton talking about the case again. "I hope they do find her so her mom can have closure." Says former I.G.A. co-worker Terrie Miller "When I talked to (Jamie's mom) at the store she had said that until they find Jamie's body, to her she is still alive, so she either needs closure one way or the other." Brooke Martin agrees. She met Harper just about a week before she disappeared. "She seemed really nice and I thought I'd become friends with her." She says "And I have no idea what happened to her, kind of makes me want to know what happened." Wednesday's search was one of the bigger one's they've done since checking the gravel pits outside Paxton just weeks after Harper’s disappearance.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=9136

Pauli

10-18-2007, 09:28 PM

Harper Search Accelerates

Reported by: Jenny Gastwirth WCIA 3

Thursday, Oct 18, 2007 @05:24pm CST

20 year-old Jamie Harper was last seen in March at a house party in Rantoul. After Wednesday's search, many people are now asking, what's developed? While police are tight-lipped about they've found, they do say progress is being made, especially after they combed through a field on route 49 near Armstrong. A tip led them there. That was one of the bigger searches police have done since checking gravel pits outside Paxton months ago. Now they say they may be on to something. "We never put out that nothing was ever found," said Chief Paul Farber. "Indeed we did take some things from there, but I'm not going to specify what we did take." Of course this case is still an ongoing investigation so specific details can't be released. FBI has said Harper will be featured on the CBS show "Without a Trace" next Thursday. It features a missing person at the end of each episode. The CBS "Early Show" will do a follow up to that story the following morning.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=9163

Pauli

10-22-2007, 09:06 PM

Agencies look for missing woman at Vermilion site

By Meg Thilmony
Friday, October 19, 2007 7:46 AM CDT

ARMSTRONG – Several law enforcement agencies searched a rural Vermilion County location Wednesday in connection with missing woman Jamie Harper.

Sgt. Jeff Wooten of the Rantoul Police Department said authorities searched a property for about eight hours where U.S. 136 and Illinois 49 run together.

"We've had some tips that there may have been evidence on that property detailing what may have happened to Jamie Harper," Wooten said. He declined to comment about whether authorities found any evidence, but said they did not find a body. Wooten would not say who owns the property.

Harper, 20, of Paxton was last seen at a party in Rantoul in the early morning hours of March 10. She was reported missing later that month. In the spring, Rantoul police searched fields north of Rantoul and in Dogtown, an area between Paxton and Rantoul.

Wooten would not say if the search at the property will continue.

About 25 officers and investigators from the Rantoul and Paxton police departments, Vermilion and Champaign County sheriff's offices, and the Illinois State Police assisted in the search, Wooten said. They also used dogs.

"It's not a huge piece of property but there are some nearby waterways," Wooten said. "A lot of areas were searched in that general vicinity."

Those include buildings on the land, which Wooten said consisted of about three-quarters of an acre, Wooten said. Police also searched roadside ditches, a wooded area and the banks of the Middle Fork River nearby.

Wooten said he doesn't expect to call in any outside search teams, such as Equu-Search. The Texas-based firm assisted in finding the remains of missing Naomi Arnette south of Sadorus earlier this fall.

"The areas that we've wanted to search or had any information that needed to be searched have been searched," Wooten said, "and done very thoroughly."

Paxton Police Chief Bob Bane confirmed that his department assisted Rantoul police Wednesday.

Wooten said he's been working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the last few weeks on Harper's case and succeeded in getting the FBI to put her on its Web site.

For more information, go to www.FBI.gov (http://www.fbi.gov/) and click on missing persons and kidnappings.

He said Harper's case is also expected to be featured at the end of the CBS show "Without a Trace" later this month.

Anyone with information about Harper can call Rantoul Police at 892-2103 or Ford County Crimestoppers at 784-4173. Crimestoppers is offering up to a $1,000 reward for information leading to an arrest.

Harper stands 5 feet tall, weighs about 130 pounds, has brown hair and eyes, has a tattoo on the small of her back and a nose ring in her left nostril. She was last seen wearing blue jeans, a white jacket, sandals and carrying a black handbag.

News-Gazette staff writer Mary Schenk and Paxton Record editor Will Brumleve also contributed to this story.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...er_at_vermilion (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/10/19/agencies_look_for_harper_at_vermilion)

Pauli

10-22-2007, 09:06 PM

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/harper_j.htm

Without A Trace on CBS

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/withou...per_jamie.shtml (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/without_a_trace/missing_person/harper_jamie.shtml)

Pauli

10-22-2007, 09:10 PM

Agencies look for missing woman at Vermilion site

By Meg Thilmony

Friday, October 19, 2007 7:46 AM CDT

ARMSTRONG – Several law enforcement agencies searched a rural Vermilion County location Wednesday in connection with missing woman Jamie Harper.

Sgt. Jeff Wooten of the Rantoul Police Department said authorities searched a property for about eight hours where U.S. 136 and Illinois 49 run together.
"We've had some tips that there may have been evidence on that property detailing what may have happened to Jamie Harper," Wooten said. He declined to comment about whether authorities found any evidence, but said they did not find a body. Wooten would not say who owns the property.
Harper, 20, of Paxton was last seen at a party in Rantoul in the early morning hours of March 10. She was reported missing later that month. In the spring, Rantoul police searched fields north of Rantoul and in Dogtown, an area between Paxton and Rantoul.
Wooten would not say if the search at the property will continue.
About 25 officers and investigators from the Rantoul and Paxton police departments, Vermilion and Champaign County sheriff's offices, and the Illinois State Police assisted in the search, Wooten said. They also used dogs.
"It's not a huge piece of property but there are some nearby waterways," Wooten said. "A lot of areas were searched in that general vicinity."
Those include buildings on the land, which Wooten said consisted of about three-quarters of an acre, Wooten said. Police also searched roadside ditches, a wooded area and the banks of the Middle Fork River nearby.
Wooten said he doesn't expect to call in any outside search teams, such as Equu-Search. The Texas-based firm assisted in finding the remains of missing Naomi Arnette south of Sadorus earlier this fall.
"The areas that we've wanted to search or had any information that needed to be searched have been searched," Wooten said, "and done very thoroughly."
Paxton Police Chief Bob Bane confirmed that his department assisted Rantoul police Wednesday.
Wooten said he's been working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the last few weeks on Harper's case and succeeded in getting the FBI to put her on its Web site.
For more information, go to www.FBI.gov (http://www.fbi.gov/) and click on missing persons and kidnappings.
He said Harper's case is also expected to be featured at the end of the CBS show "Without a Trace" later this month.
Anyone with information about Harper can call Rantoul Police at 892-2103 or Ford County Crimestoppers at 784-4173. Crimestoppers is offering up to a $1,000 reward for information leading to an arrest.
Harper stands 5 feet tall, weighs about 130 pounds, has brown hair and eyes, has a tattoo on the small of her back and a nose ring in her left nostril. She was last seen wearing blue jeans, a white jacket, sandals and carrying a black handbag.
News-Gazette staff writer Mary Schenk and Paxton Record editor Will Brumleve also contributed to this story.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...er_at_vermilion (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/10/19/agencies_look_for_harper_at_vermilion)

Pauli

10-22-2007, 10:05 PM

Jamie Harper Latest

Reported by: Jenny Gastwirth WCIA 3

Wednesday, Oct 3, 2007 @06:19pm CST

"I don't care who you are," said Roz Anderson. "They all deserve the same amount of treatment." Anderson says she's fed up after a national search team steps in to recover a missing mother from Sadorus and still no word on Jamie Harper. "Nobody's heard anything," she said. Those who worked with Harper at the IGA store in Paxton say they're doing their part to help by posting signs throughout town. "People are still on the lookout," said Linda Glad. "There's been a few spottings, but I don't think those have really amounted to anything." Anderson agrees. "When she first went missing it was a big deal, but then it just kind of went away," she said. So much so some people fear Harper's been forgotten. "I work here," said Anderson. "I'm here 6, 7 days a week and I haven't even heard her name cross the restaurant in a few months." Police say that's not the case. Finding Harper is a top priority and they have the manpower on hand to prove so. Sergeant Jeff Wooten says his department has used ATVs, state police, airplanes, radar systems and dogs to help. Despite the efforts, some people say that's not enough. Many wish a group like Texas EquuSearch would come to their town. "Anything that would help find this girl because she was a really nice girl," said Glad. So could it happen? "Anything possible," said Wooten.
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=8802

4thekids

10-23-2007, 04:31 PM

Jeremy (Jeromy) Ramm is an apparent POI in both Heather Zimmerman's and Jamie Harper's cases. I researched his wife:

I found Anastasia Ramm had 3 PO's taken out on Jeremy Ramm (some are under Jeromy). She received the first emergency PO then had it vacated as well as the other ones.

If you look up Anastasia you'll see she has two forcible entry convictions. One of those plaintiff's was William Ramm. Several traffic charges as well: no insurance on vehicle, speeding and minor no seatbelt charge.

http://www.cccircuitclerk.com/
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As far as Jeromy Ramm the posts are grande's so I cannot move those.

4thekids

10-23-2007, 04:34 PM

Friend of Jeromy Ramm:

CEDERHOLM KENNETH S
Count Description
01 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL CONTACT
DISPOSITION INFORMATION as of 10/22/2007 10:02:00 PM

08-23-01 MQJ;ON MOTION BY PEOPLE COUNT 1(DOMESTIC BATTERY
CLASS A)IS DISMISSED.JRF
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File Date: 05/10/07

Count Description
01 DOMESTIC BTRY/ CONTACT/PRIOR
--------------------------------------------------------
File Date: 01/14/98
Count Description
01 OBSTRUCT JUST/DESTROY EVIDENCE
---------------------------------------------------------
File Date: 04/23/07
06-06-07 HNL; ON MOTION BY THE STATE CNT I DISORDERLY
CONDUCT CLS C IS DISMISSED.
TV
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File Date: 06/02/03
Count Description
01 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL CONTACT
02 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL CONTACT
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File Date: 12/22/04
Count Description
01 THEFT/UNAUTHD CON/<$300/1ST
02 BAD CHECK/FIRST OFFENSE
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File Date: 07/07/00
10-20-00 JBF: ON A MOTION BY THE PEOPLE THIS CAUSE CT I
DOMESTIC BATTERY CLASS A IS DISMISSED.

http://www.cccircuitclerk.com/

4thekids

10-24-2007, 06:44 AM

Pauli

10-24-2007, 08:00 PM

I agree jessie, that's very strange.

Pauli

10-26-2007, 01:26 AM

Annie

11-19-2007, 01:58 PM

Can anyone tell me who lives or lived on this property where the police were searching, or of what significance was it to the search efforts?

I'm trying to do a triangulation of the areas of interest were to the disappearance of Jamie.

I just re read an article that says that the property was searched, and that nothing significant was located there, and if there were police aren't saying just what they were. Obviously Jamie wasn't.

Still I'm puzzled as to what the significance of this property is to the investigation.

I have done a triangulation of the area where Jamie was last seen, and that property, I can post a map here of what I found. My circled area overlaps in the area of Gifford.

Annie

11-19-2007, 02:23 PM

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/mysticcasefiles/Jamie2.jpg

Pauli

11-19-2007, 04:19 PM

Grande

11-19-2007, 04:21 PM

Grande

11-19-2007, 04:23 PM

Hi Harlett! I have been ill for the last week or so still trying to recooperate. Hope your doing well!

Grande

11-19-2007, 04:25 PM

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/mysticcasefiles/Jamie2.jpg

The Ramm's live close to Gifford on Rt. 136 East of Rantoul.

Annie

11-19-2007, 09:47 PM

Ok, let me explain what it was that I did there. I was working on a case of a missing girl from Grand Forks, ND back in 2003. A geographic profiler, Dr. Godwin was explaining to me how to do a series of circling of places where the missing person was last seen, anywhere that any articles of clothing or personal items of the missing person was located, etc. We, he and I did exactly what I've done there for you.

In that senario we had cell towers that picked up Dru Sjodin's cell phone signal which lasted for approx. 24 hours before it died. When we did these circles the place where they overlapped was an area where we felt was the most important place to be searched, for her, her remains or of something that was of a high interest in the case. As it turned out Dru's body was found very close to where we had marked the circled area. If we had had the information that the level three sex offender had lived on a farm on the exact area where our circles came together, we could have pinpointed where Dru could be found with much more accuracy.

In this case with Jamie, those circle overlapped in an area where this man lived, and I didn't know that. Now that I do know it, I'm going to also do another circled area, but what I need to know is, of what significance is that abandoned garage, who owns it, why did LE search that area?

Please advise, and I'll attempt to get to a closer area of interest for another search.

Pauli

11-19-2007, 10:40 PM

Very interesting... let me get in touch with Grande and I'm sure he can tell you what you need to know.

Annie

11-21-2007, 04:54 AM

I'm hoping that this next map will tell you something, since I don't know who owned that abandoned garage property, I'm just going to assume that it had something to do with the name that you mentioned. The area that needs to be throughly searched is within the blue marked areas, in both maps. Only you know where is in that area.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/mysticcasefiles/jamie22.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd88/mysticcasefiles/jamie33.jpg

God Bless Jamie and her family and friends.

Pauli

11-21-2007, 11:51 AM

Annie I have left a message for Grande to get in touch with me.. I haven't seen him in several days, so I am assuming he is tied up with something. I will let you know just as soon as I find out something from him. That is great work that you do.

Annie

11-22-2007, 06:23 AM

Let's just hope that it can still be searched and maybe bring some type of closure to this family. Happy Thanksgiving and God Bless:1222423:

CR_in_IL

11-22-2007, 11:37 PM

Hi Harlett! I have been ill for the last week or so still trying to recooperate. Hope your doing well!

OH! so that's where you've been. Some of us were starting to worry about you. I hope you're feeling better and got to load up on bird today.

CR_in_IL

11-23-2007, 12:10 AM

Wanted to post another map. I wiped off my computer the other day and haven't taken the time to put my screenshot program back on, so I'm going to link you to it.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=40.378901~-87.94663&style=a&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&encType=1

This area is at the very top of the diamond that Annie posted for us. If you look at her map, you'll see at the top where 3 river branches come off. My map is an upclose of the area. It's a forrest perserve sort of thing. There are 3 small ponds there, it's a campground. There are some hiking trails and no hunting allowed (IIRC) and TONS of wooded area and tall tall grass that's never mowed (for the sake of the animals)

If you come down 136 and turn north at the Penfield road, it'll take you right there. Or... coming from the garage, go north 2 roads, turn left, go to the first stop sign and turn left. Takes about 5 minutes from the garage- at my driving speed anyways.

CR_in_IL

11-23-2007, 12:12 AM

Lots of different names have come up in the search for Jamie. I can't hardly keep track of them all. Does the name Mercado sound familiar? I saw that name the other day in Stacy Peterson's forum and I SWEAR I've heard it before and for some reason I was thinking it was from Jamie's forum. Is this making lights go off in anyone else's head??

Annie

11-23-2007, 08:05 AM

I'm glad that you posted your map, because I'm not from the area and so I don't know what's around there, but I think that area needs to be throughly checked out. Even give it about 2 miles in either direction, just to make sure nothing is missed.

Pauli

11-23-2007, 06:19 PM

Hi Harlett! I have been ill for the last week or so still trying to recooperate. Hope your doing well!

I'm sorry to hear you were ill Grande.. I hope you are doing much better now :love0085:

Grande

11-26-2007, 11:51 AM

Grande's feeling better now, thank you for the well wishes.

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!

Grande

11-26-2007, 06:14 PM

Families, friends try to fill void after disappearances
By Meg Thilmony
Monday, November 26, 2007 12:43 PM CDT

Jamie Harper. Penny Lease. Kimberly Thompson. Theresa Wallace. Heather Zimmerman.

Five vastly different women with one common characteristic: They're all missing.

Thompson, since 1986. Harper, since March of this year.

Each woman has a story, a family.

Someone who's hurting because she hasn't come home.

It's a mix of frustration and hope, family members say. Of not knowing. Of wanting to believe she'll turn up somewhere, someday, somehow.

Their pictures never change, despite the fleeting years.

Investigators never close their files. They, too, hope the right snippet of information will eventually emerge.

Ann and Ron Mullins, Heather Mullins Zimmerman's parents, are always willing to talk about it, 10 years later. Even when it's hard. Even though Ron Mullins remembers that he never actually saw his daughter leave that rainy Memorial Day Monday night. He and his wife weren't too concerned when she didn't come home right away. She'd been married and out on her own; she did that sometimes.

Angie Risley, Theresa Wallace's sister, doesn't talk about her big sister much, 17 years later. Wallace's is just one link in a stretching chain of familial heartbreak. Risley doubts she'll ever see her sister again, but she still hopes someone knows something.

And in the case of Jamie Harper, the 20-year-old last seen in Rantoul in March, Sgt. Jeff Wooten of the Rantoul Police Department is still looking into whether Harper simply left town, searching for a new life, or if she's the victim of foul play.

"We're still exploring all avenues," Wooten said.

Taking the case

That's the way adult missing-persons cases are handled, said Lt. Ed Ogle, head of the Champaign County sheriff's office's investigations division. Someone could be missing because she wanted to start a new life elsewhere. Or she could be a victim of foul play.

"You've got to jump on it and got to work it as quick as you can," Ogle said.

Investigators start seeking answers within the missing person's circle of close acquaintances. If someone decides to start a new life, she usually tells someone.

Investigators try to determine the person's day-to-day routine, Ogle said, to map out her normal activities. They review surveillance cameras at the person's usual gas station, bank and stores. The average person is often caught on videos at such places, Ogle said.

Investigators also try to track someone using credit cards or cell phones. Or if the person uses her social security number to get a job. In one case, Ogle said, a woman who'd been reported missing used an area employer as a reference. When a new employer called, investigators discovered her location.

But with the passage of time, it becomes more likely that a missing person didn't just run away, said Investigator Shane Cook, who worked for months on the disappearance of Naomi Arnette. Searchers found the mother of seven's body buried in a shallow grave south of Sadorus at the end of September. She'd been missing since May.

Red flags go up on such cases, Ogle said, such as someone not picking up a paycheck or leaving behind children she deeply loves, actions that aren't within her normal way of doing business.

When they suspect a person is not missing by choice, investigators start looking at why.

It could be because they were injured or incapacitated. Or it could be foul play.

That's when investigators start thinking: Who or what is responsible? How could someone hide a missing person? Who would have a motive?

The long wait

Angie Risley has waited for answers for 17 years. Ann and Ron Mullins have been waiting 10 years.

Other women have been missing longer, including Thompson and Penny Lease, since 1989.

But even after 10 years or almost 20, investigators still believe the answers about these women are out there.

John Schweighart Sr. was a sergeant at the Champaign Police Department when Lease disappeared. He worked the case until he retired 10 years ago, and he knows other investigators have looked at it since.

"There's little doubt in my mind that somebody has some good information on this case," Schweighart said. He's pretty sure at least one person in Rantoul knows something.

"It's still a case that will someday, maybe, come to a conclusion," Schweighart said. "You never know."

Troy Daniels, deputy chief at the Champaign Police Department, has the same opinion about Thompson's case – someone knows something.

"I believe what they know bothers them to this day," he said.

Cook said one common factor in many missing women's cases is relationship problems. Women may be more likely to stay in a troubled relationship, Cook said, while a man may just walk away.

Or it could be because, statistically, women are at greater risk for serious domestic violence and sexual assault, Daniels said. Anyone is at risk, Daniels said, but certain lifestyles can also increase the chances of abduction.

Daniels said other detectives have looked into the Thompson and Lease cases, including Schweighart's son, Sgt. John Schweighart Jr.

The Mullinses, too, believe that they'll someday learn what happened to their daughter. They still hear rumors and communicate with the Champaign County sheriff's office about the case.

Their hearts went out to Susan Kehrer when her daughter, 20-year-old Jamie Harper, went missing in March. Kehrer also declined to comment for this story.

In both cases, investigators searched gravel pits in Dogtown, an area between Paxton and Rantoul, for the women. In both cases, nothing definite was ever discovered.

The worst, the Mullinses say, is not knowing. They feel for Kehrer. Because if Harper isn't found soon, they know her mom faces the worst kind of heartbreak. They've lived it.

Living without closure

Different families respond to their loved ones' disappearances in different ways. The Mullinses recognize "the look," the one acquaintances and neighbors give them. It appears when they realize the Mullinses' daughter is missing, but they're not sure if they should ask.

But Angie Risley rarely speaks of Wallace. When Wallace was 17, a car accident changed her personality dramatically. Risley was shocked, but not surprised, when her sister went missing. Anyone who approached Wallace as a friend could convince her to do anything.

Risley's buried herself in work as a hairstylist in the years since Wallace's disappearance. And she's worked especially hard to make life normal for her own children.

Still, though, Risley sometimes wonders, when seeing the back of a brunette's head, "Could that be Theresa?"

Marvin Lease, father of Penny Lease, had his daughter declared dead seven years after she disappeared. He declined to comment for this story but told The News-Gazette in 1996 that he thought about his daughter every day for the first three or four years after her disappearance.

And the family of Thompson, a prostitute who went missing in 1986, declined to be identified in a News-Gazette story in 1987.

But regardless of how families deal with their loss, investigators want to make sure the public doesn't forget them.

The Rantoul Police Department distributed posters with Harper's picture to businesses in the Rantoul and Paxton areas. Her big brown eyes and shy smile peer from business windows and bulletin boards.

Ogle said investigators know that media attention and other community involvement keep the memories of the women alive. This includes bringing them up on birthdays and anniversaries of their disappearances. The Mullinses recently dedicated a remembrance stone in Gifford's Roessler Memorial Park to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of the last time they saw their daughter.

It gave them a spot to think of her. Someone placed flowers there on her 30th birthday on Oct. 17.

The rock, which they can see from their home on Gifford's south side, helps a little. But it's not the same as being able to find her, and if she's not alive, to lay her to rest.

They believe if they can do that, they may also be able to seek justice. To find out who tore their daughter from them and caused 10 years of worry, who changed the course of their lives forever.

Ron Mullins said his daughter's disappearance isn't a sign he wears around his neck, or something printed on a T-shirt.

But it's there.

"I don't think it'll ever go away," Ron Mullins said. "It's always there, way in the back."

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/11/26/asdf

CR_in_IL

12-04-2007, 11:41 PM

I'm assuming since there haven't been any post in forever that there's no new news?? *sigh*

FocusFactor

12-13-2007, 10:16 PM

I'm assuming since there haven't been any post in forever that there's no new news?? *sigh*

Nibbe arrest was the latest news, right?
We were going gangbusters on this case there for a few weeks. I always wonder how things would have gone if -let's say- they'd given the attention Stacy P has gotten to some of these forgotten cases. Sigh. Also I wonder if we'd get further if the family wanted it.

I just found my pw, logged in and my message was "Welcome FF, 15717 posts since your last visit". Wow. Very busy place now, looks like half of CTV is already posting. I will never catch up.

Hi to CR, Grande, HO, 4, Bratt, all the Jamie posters.

Annie, were you "Mystic" on the Dru Sjodin forum? Just wondering, your location and all.

Grande

12-14-2007, 01:26 AM

Nibbe arrest was the latest news, right?
We were going gangbusters on this case there for a few weeks. I always wonder how things would have gone if -let's say- they'd given the attention Stacy P has gotten to some of these forgotten cases. Sigh. Also I wonder if we'd get further if the family wanted it.

I just found my pw, logged in and my message was "Welcome FF, 15717 posts since your last visit". Wow. Very busy place now, looks like half of CTV is already posting. I will never catch up.

Hi to CR, Grande, HO, 4, Bratt, all the Jamie posters.

Annie, were you "Mystic" on the Dru Sjodin forum? Just wondering, your location and all.

FocusFactor, so good to see you! I feel bad now, I didn't see CR's post, sorry up there CR in IL. I check for updates everyday and post them but as you can see there hasn't been anything.

Yea, Ryan Nibbe was picked up on his warrant. At last glance Josh still had an active warrant. I'm hoping Ryan's arrest will provide LE with some information they can work with.

I look forward to talking with you, it's been too long.

Pauli

12-14-2007, 01:49 AM

Nibbe arrest was the latest news, right?
We were going gangbusters on this case there for a few weeks. I always wonder how things would have gone if -let's say- they'd given the attention Stacy P has gotten to some of these forgotten cases. Sigh. Also I wonder if we'd get further if the family wanted it.

I just found my pw, logged in and my message was "Welcome FF, 15717 posts since your last visit". Wow. Very busy place now, looks like half of CTV is already posting. I will never catch up.

Hi to CR, Grande, HO, 4, Bratt, all the Jamie posters.

Annie, were you "Mystic" on the Dru Sjodin forum? Just wondering, your location and all.

Hi FF, nice to see you here :0012:

I am like you on the coverage one case will get over another. Every missing person is important, none is more than the any other to the media. They all need to be found.

CR_in_IL

12-18-2007, 10:17 PM

So....... who aint in jail that's on the suspect/accompliss list? And anyone have a picture of those people?

Grande

12-18-2007, 11:54 PM

So....... who aint in jail that's on the suspect/accompliss list? And anyone have a picture of those people?

I have an image of Jeromy Ramm, nothing on Josh Nibbe.

Grande

12-18-2007, 11:57 PM

Josh Nibbe still has an active unrelated warrant out of Champaign County.

CR_in_IL

12-19-2007, 01:38 AM

Josh Nibbe still has an active unrelated warrant out of Champaign County.
Thanks Grande. BTW, how ya been? And is that you in the picture with the birdy on your head?

If anyone manages to come across a picture of Josh please post it for us. I'll make sure to keep an eye out for him!!

Grande

12-19-2007, 01:56 AM

Thanks Grande. BTW, how ya been? And is that you in the picture with the birdy on your head?

If anyone manages to come across a picture of Josh please post it for us. I'll make sure to keep an eye out for him!!

Your welcome. FWIW, I check EVERYDAY for updates.

I'm doing great, hope you are doing well also.

I will post any and all pertinent information I come accross you can count on that.

Keep me posted if you hear anything.

CR_in_IL

12-19-2007, 02:15 AM

Your welcome. FWIW, I check EVERYDAY for updates.

I'm doing great, hope you are doing well also.

I will post any and all pertinent information I come accross you can count on that.

Keep me posted if you hear anything.
I was telling someone else the other day about following a car that I thought was really suspicious. But you know me, I'm suspicious of everything. :francis:

It was a decently warm day, had the car windows down, and this guy was in full blown "going to Alaska" wear with his coat hood tied really tight around his face like he was trying to hide. Then he'd slow down way before a turn and was going way under the speed limit like he just wanted to make absolutely sure he did nothing to get pulled over. Just made me go "hmmm"

FocusFactor

12-21-2007, 01:13 AM

I was telling someone else the other day about following a car that I thought was really suspicious. But you know me, I'm suspicious of everything. :francis:

It was a decently warm day, had the car windows down, and this guy was in full blown "going to Alaska" wear with his coat hood tied really tight around his face like he was trying to hide. Then he'd slow down way before a turn and was going way under the speed limit like he just wanted to make absolutely sure he did nothing to get pulled over. Just made me go "hmmm"

Well, dang CR... didn't you have your camera at the ready? LOL, j/k.
I know what you mean though, raises an eyebrow.

4thekids

12-22-2007, 08:12 AM

FF hi backacha! So great to see you made it. :girl_haha:

Hey Grande we've been so busy with the holidays there's hardly been time to post.

Cya all soon.

Praying for closure Jamie. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

Annie

12-23-2007, 08:03 AM

Annie, were you "Mystic" on the Dru Sjodin forum? Just wondering, your location and all.

Yes, I was Mystic on the Dru Sjodin forum. I'm hoping that someone in authority has checked the area of the map that I've indicated.:1222423:

CR_in_IL

12-26-2007, 06:26 PM

Well, dang CR... didn't you have your camera at the ready? LOL, j/k.
I know what you mean though, raises an eyebrow.
I didn't have the camera but I dialed his licence plate number on my phone. LOL Now if only I could've remembered to write it down once I got home. It's long gone now unfortunately.

By the way, hi everyone. :0012: I hope your holidays were great.

:1222423: For Jamie

FocusFactor

12-27-2007, 01:21 PM

Yes, I was Mystic on the Dru Sjodin forum. I'm hoping that someone in authority has checked the area of the map that I've indicated.:1222423:

Well, Hi and how the heck are ya? I was a member of your forum way back when... don't remember my nic but on DS I was DKinIL (and KeepingHope2 or something like that) and in the chat I was Debbi (lol-- still am Debbi, duh)

Don't hold your breath on "anyone in authority" checking any maps or leads in this case. The only reason they even did any followup and searched the Ramm property was because there was a minor outcry locally that Naomi Arnette had been found on the 26th hour of a volunteer search by TES. I was at that seach and I can tell you exactly what Champaign County sheriff's people did there... stood close to their RV thing. Long story on that disappearance. Husband did it and cops did pretty much of nothing until her bones were found, and then they suddenly became cops again.

My opinion is that they would rather stop speeders. Maybe I am being jaded of course, but geez... 2 women missing from parties with some of the same guys in attendance and near the same trailer park location, and several connections... except 10 years apart.

OldFart

01-01-2008, 02:28 PM

CR_in_IL

01-03-2008, 03:56 PM

:happy0207: :howdy:
Harlett, Focus, CR & Grande

Hope you do not mind if I attempt to get back involved.

I went to the CTV thread and it was like :waitasec:
Of course I will have to get back up to speed on things :71541:

Later
Oldf
Hiya.... Hope everyone had a safe holiday season.

I wish we could get things underway again but I highly doubt it. Focus Factor, I completely agree with the post you made.

Don't hold your breath on "anyone in authority" checking any maps or leads in this case. The only reason they even did any followup and searched the Ramm property was because there was a minor outcry locally that Naomi Arnette had been found on the 26th hour of a volunteer search by TES.
...more snippage....
My opinion is that they would rather stop speeders. Maybe I am being jaded of course, but geez... 2 women missing from parties with some of the same guys in attendance and near the same trailer park location, and several connections... except 10 years apart.
They have better things to do around here. I'd say they'd rather be sitting at Dunkin Donuts, but we don't have one of those.... This will probably sound stupid but, there's not enough crime around here for them to have something better to do!!

FocusFactor

01-03-2008, 11:12 PM

Hi OF. Of course no one minds if you get back involved.

I am puzzled by this case. Well all of them are puzzling-- that was a silly statement, but this one seems so easy to solve.

Pauli

01-04-2008, 02:55 AM

Hello OF, it's good to see you again :0012:

Grande

01-04-2008, 12:05 PM

Hi OldFart!

Great to see everyone.

It's only a matter of time before Justice is served, imo.

OldFart

01-05-2008, 11:42 AM

I know that this going to come out wrong... But what the heck...

Does Jamie have a family member that still wants answers and is willing to push for those answers...?

Is there a reward fund set up to help motivate people to come forward with information? One big enough so that they can get the hell out of town too.

As usual I wonder what LE knows that they are keeping under wraps.
Like did they pull cell phone info (location type) for the people that were at the party and try to match that to statements made.. etc.. :duh:

But what do I know...
SeeYa

PinkPony

01-20-2008, 12:14 AM

Pauli

01-20-2008, 12:27 AM

Hi PP, it's great to see you :0012:

I wish we could get something to break on Jamie's case.. it's been a while now since anything new has come up about it.

Thanks for the nice comments, we appreciate it.

Grande

01-21-2008, 12:38 PM

:0012: Just want to jump in here and say hey to everyone.

I really wish something would break in Jami's case.

I haven't had alot of time the last couple of months so I'm trying to catch up.
I have to say HOH and Grande, you are doing an amazing job with this site.

PP

Thanks Pink Pony, great to hear from you!

We look forward to the day resolution comes in this case!

Have a great week.

PinkPony

01-23-2008, 12:52 AM

Thanks Pink Pony, great to hear from you!

We look forward to the day resolution comes in this case!

Have a great week.

That day can't come too soon for me.

You have a great week also!

CR_in_IL

01-31-2008, 08:48 PM

I just wanted to stop in and say hi...... That's all......

OldFart

03-21-2008, 08:51 PM

Hello All :happy0207:
I about fell out of my chair when I saw Jamie back in the news.

Are we using this forum or Jamies @ CTV
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=314772&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 ?Or Both ?

Oh I added a comment at Illinois Home Page ..
http://illinoishomepage.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1

Just to try to get some interest at the local level

Will try to check back in more often

SeeYa

packy

04-01-2008, 05:27 PM

Hi, OldFart. I saw your comment and I wish they could come up with some incentive to get people to remember. Has anyone heard if anything came out after Nibbe's arrest?

Grande

04-01-2008, 06:35 PM

No sure haven't. His younger brother, Josh Nibbe, was dating Jamie at the time. He is still MIA so to speak. He has an active warrant out of Champaign. The other POI (Jeromy Ramm) is in DOC on unrelated charges. He is up for parole in December of 2009. Hopefully something will be done prior to that date so he isn't let back out. He is also the MAIN POI in the Heather Dawn Zimmerman.

cog1

04-02-2008, 03:33 PM

Hi everyone,
This is O/T but I read this earlier at IS. When I first started looking at some of these missing girls cases, April Dawn was one of the girls linked to some of the missing. Anyway, not sure I should post it but I didn't see a thread for her.

"Montville Man Charged with Murder of Missing Girl

The Day, New London Ct.
Published on 4/1/2008

State police have charged a repeat sex offender with the murder of 15-year-old April Dawn Pennington, who disappeared from her Montville home in May 1996.

George Leniart, 42, of Montville, was arraigned today in New London Superior Court. He was charged with three counts of capital felony and one count of murder.

Judge Susan Handy set Leniart’s bond at $2 million based on his extensive criminal history. The arrest warrant detailing why Leniart was arrested was sealed for two weeks.
Leniart’s next court date is scheduled for April 15.

April's mother, Hazel Pennington, said police told her about the arrest this morning but could not provide details.

"I don't think the information has hit me yet," she said. "I would like to know more."
Mrs. Pennington, who now lives in North Carolina, said she has known for years that Leniart and a local teen-ager, Patrick J. "PJ" Allain picked up her daughter that night.

Leniart is currently incarcerated on charges he sexually assaulted a 17-year-old boy at his home on Massapeag Side Road last summer. He has a long history of sex crimes, including a conviction for raping a 13-year-old girl in 1996.

Detectives in the Eastern District Major Crime Squad had continued to investigate April Pennington's disappearance, suspecting Leniart murdered her but not able to charge him without recovering her body. New information came to light in the past year that enabled them to obtain an arrest warrant.

Pennington snuck out of her house on May 29, 1996 and was never seen again."

packy

04-02-2008, 11:47 PM

Thanks, Cog1 for this update. I started a thread and pasted part of your post in it with a link. Hope that is okay with you, and please feel free to start a thread when you have information about a missing person that we do not have featured in these forums.

brad

04-04-2008, 06:02 AM

hello.

i didnt know jamie. i did know heather. i knew jeromy very well kenny mike etc... i was looking at your zoom in map thing that was posted very nice. i think a few areas were over looked that jeromy used to frequent in the middle of the night as i look at the map more ill hopefully make some post to possablly help out. if you go towards gifford about 1 mile outside rantoul take a right towards champaign and go down till u see a grey barn (if i rember right) just past that is a road that u should be able to take all the way to back to a creek.in the summer corn and weeds cover this and it looks like a tractor trail but u can get back there with a car. its hard to see from the road looks like nothing. jeromy used to take girls back there all the time. this may no t help at all. also there is a crawl space under jeromy mom and dads house (secret pass sort of) u cant find it if u just look for cause they have stuff pushed up next to it. it has a dirt bed there its about 4 foot high and u can get in there and he used to use that to hide stuff he stole. also as far as when they searched the resident out by armstrong they used to keep a tractor out there where hey could burry stuff very deep if needed. i dont know if the police no that jeromy had the ability to dig a hole and place a car or 2 over the spot.and then easily move the tractor away the next day or so. i dont want to get everyone in a uproar by postingthis but me and he were very good friends at one time, and it sickens me to see him getting away with both cases. hope this helps no gurantees i just thought i would post because i dont think they searched that well. they prolly looked under there noses and not gave jeromy credit for being a master criminal. he thinks things out very well (typical socail path) more presure needs to be put on kenny ciederhom about heather he has admitted him mike jeromy had something to do with heather but the police thinks he is crazy im gonna end my post with that these ARE ONLY OPINIONS

brad

Grande

04-04-2008, 11:23 AM

Hey Brad, thanks for joining and providing those details.

Here is another map of the first area I believe you are alluding to. Let me know if this is right and I'll pan in closer. Is it further East of County Road 1900?

http://i25.tinypic.com/e88qki.jpg

Thanks Brad!

brad

04-04-2008, 05:51 PM

thats one or 2 to far. its the first mile outside rsntoul. after u pass rural king take a right. the building is on the left side of the road

Grande

04-05-2008, 12:19 AM

Alright, I'll post a new image here soon. Thanks again.

You should look at this thread as well when you have the opprtunity.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17

I can't help but wonder if Jamie and Heather aren't Jeromy's only alleged victims. Thoughts?

TigressPen

04-05-2008, 10:03 AM

Brad, you've given some interesting information with your post. Always, it's nice to have people from the area that knows the victim(s), their family or the suspect(s) joining in the discussions.

packy

04-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Hello and welcome to the boards, Brad.

brad

04-05-2008, 07:06 PM

hi i was a little curious as to if the gravel pits around dog town were searched other than the one were they found the boats? i remeber them boats they were talking about cause i was out there when one of them sank. but there is other gravel pits i have been with jeromy at least 3 others. one of them had been closed for a long time and i knoow there right around dog town. i tried to look for them on the map but had no luck finding them. its been so long since i have been out that way or i would go look myself. and post the addresses. i think they looked at blue water is correct? if so je new of at least 3 others for sure

Grande

04-06-2008, 01:01 AM

brad

04-06-2008, 02:31 AM

dear grande,

unfortunatley after heather went missing i was away sort to say paying for my crimes. when i got home jeromy came to my house and wanted to visit but parted ways at that time and told him if he did do something i did not want to know and asked him to leave. so no he didnt exactly tell me but i could tell he wanted too. now looking back im disappointed that i didnt let him tell me but then again jeromys father is to be feared so im glad i dont know also. besides i did gie some info to an investigator once and he directly told jeromy what i said so had a confrentation with jeromy directly and ever since then i have really never talked with jeromy. but the answer to your ? is i didnt let him tell me anything. he used to be with a girl by the name of patty at the time of herathers dissapperance and she lived arond fisher. maybe someone should talk to her.

brad

Grande

04-06-2008, 02:41 AM

brad

04-06-2008, 05:14 AM

sear grande,

well its like this. bill has many people in the local government that are close friends and that tip him off. he has wirked for the city of rantoul for a long time. so we always new when the police were comming so to say back then. the family also looks after one another. and will protect each other under any circumstance. btw jason stevens is jeromys half brother if u didnt know. i kinda glanced threw some posts and people wondered who he is. i think u should get a list of all of jamie fomer friends and ask them where did they go when she hung out with jeromy. mainly the girls. see if jeromy ever took them to any isloted areas. he has so many. he knows the area very well. maybe possably comepare the lists and look in them areas if u can find them. knowing jeromy i doubt he would tip the police to where he put the missing person. but i do belive he would do that to throw them and change focus on the search. to kinda say i am smarter than you. if that makes sense. if u can get a list of the local gravel pits i would be happy to look at them and poss tell u if i have been to them with jeromy!!

brad

Grande

04-06-2008, 12:29 PM

Alright Brad, sounds good. I'll work on some maps and a list of the gravel pits tomorrow. Thanks for the help!

CR_in_IL

05-09-2008, 12:16 AM

Wow - A few things have happened since I last visited. Brad, you seem very insightful on the area and the POI's.

I wish I had the guts to go to the places you've described. I drove by the garage on route 49 a few times each week. That creeps me out to no end. I can't tell you how many times I've seen Jamie looking out of a window, or sitting in a car.

I would like to know when they did all of their car crushing. Is it possible that she was in one of those cars that they smashed and hauled away?

Does anyone know if any of the POI's families have animal farms? i.e. pigs or cows?

Grande

07-03-2008, 04:13 PM

Less than a year away and the person of interest in Jamie Harper & Heather Zimmerman's disappearances (Perhaps Jane Doe of Thomasboro as well) will be paroled.

Speak up now people or forever hold your peace.

Grande

08-13-2008, 10:44 AM

For Jamie's family & friends... :1222423:

PinkPony

10-22-2008, 01:31 PM

:1222423:For Jamie...

I pray everyday that the truth be known

PP

Grande

11-06-2008, 03:51 PM

Jamie... :1222423:

OldFart

03-10-2009, 03:54 PM

I caught this on the news
http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=73741

Rantoul Police are still working hard to find out what happened to Jamie Harper.

It’s been two years since the 20-year-old’s disappearance, when she was last seen leaving a party in Rantoul.

Since then there have been numerous searches trying to find her. Police are treating it like an abduction, but say they haven’t ruled anything out. They say it’s important to remember Harper and her family until there’s a break in the case.

“We keep our fingers crossed, keep ourselves remembering the case,” Rantoul Chief Police Paul Farber said, “and some prayer for that too that something will come through and somebody will step forward or something will come up that will open this case wide open." .

Police received their last tip a few weeks ago and will investigate every lead they get. They are just waiting for that one piece of information to bring Harper home. Short video clip there too.

nanabillie

03-16-2009, 07:17 PM

I hope Brad comes back with more interesting information.

Grande

03-19-2009, 11:03 AM

<Snipped>

I am very sorry I missed you last night. I got to looking at that website you sent to me, and realized that I knew Jamie, when she was like 14.. or so... That is just really wierd to me. I am not sure how much truth is in all the the rhumors that go around, but a girl that I go to school with says her boyfriends brother brags all the time cause he got away with murder. He claims to have killed someone in Rantoul a while back, and they found the body, but not the killer, and now he is sayin that he is the one who killed Jamie and dumped her in the pits in Paxton. Like I said, I dont know how much truth is in it, but the girl I go to school with said that when they checked the pits in Paxton that the water was really high, so he thinks they arent going to find the body. I am very uncomfrotable knowing that someone is even saying this stuff... and I dont at all want my name to come out in this.

<Snipped>

Thank you for understanding..Umm... I dont really know last names... but Jd is my classmates boyfriend, and his brothers name is Josh.. and I have heard also that Josh has been investigated for this cause he was at the same party, but he told police he passed out drunk, and when he woke up Jamie and some other guy was gone. So I am thinkin he is already a suspect. And My classmate says he thinks its so funny that he has been questioned cause he is gunna get away with it.Like I said before it sucks that I even know this. My heart and Prayer go out to Jamies family and I hope that you find out somthing very soon!

__________________________________________________ __________________________

Ryan Nibbe's MARKS, SCARS, & TATTOOS according to the Illinois Dept of Corrections;

TATTOO, NECK - HEART,LAYLA,AVA,BABYBOY,DEAJA,JO
TATTOO, ABDOMEN - HOPEY(LLEG;HEART)(RLEG;WHITEPRID
TATTOO, HAND, LEFT - INVERTED FORK (NECK/"WHITE BOY")
TATTOO, BACK - CANCER (CHEST/"LIL RYE")
TATTOO, ARM, RIGHT UPPER - CROSS/"JD-JOSH"/FACE/"LOVE"

Grande

03-19-2009, 11:04 AM

This tip was sent to Rantoul PD and other LE Agencies over a year ago for what it's worth.

Grande

03-24-2009, 11:23 AM

Last February, (2008) I met a guy (Grimey scumbag) out of XXXXX who told me some pretty interesting things. He started to tell me some crazy stories about Mr. Jeromy Ramm. Yes, Jeromy is very well known throughout Vermillion county. Of course, we all know, Mr. Ramm is a suspect in both of the cases that I am talking about.

After a few stories, he tells me that he knows who killed "those missing girls". This guy was a very good acquaintance with a man named Larry Conway and, of course, Jeromy Ramm. (Link is to IDOC) Larry is a very good friend of Jeromy Ramm also.

... (Snipped out of respect)

He tells me how Larry and Jeromy killed Heather Zimmerman. He told me that at the time Larry was in trouble, serving "periodic imprisonment", but had weekends free. He said that Heather was raped/killed in the middle of the night on the 24th/25th, but wasnt reported missing until the 26th. He told me that Larry was soo scared, that later that day, (25th, I believe) he actually turned himself in on a probation violation so that he would have an alibi.!

He told me how she was killed, but, since that is irrelevant, I will leave it up to you if you want to know. I will tell you that it was a cruel and sick death.

Anyways, he then starts telling me that Jeromy, "That other missing bitch", (Jessica [sic], in HIS words) and another guy (I have tried and tried to remember this guys name, but, sadly, I cannot. It WAS NOT Nibbe.) left the party together and he said that the other guy passed out once they got into the truck and by the time he woke up, Jessica [sic] was already dead. Raped and beaten/strangled to death) I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER HIM SAYING "THE TRUCK"... NOT A CAR OR VAN.

He assured me that the bodies would NEVER be found. I asked how that was possible and he said:

"They were burned in an incinerator."

Right after he said that, I really started to doubt his story, laughed a little and said something along the lines of:

"Yeah, right. What is this, the movies?"

At this point, he got really mad and didnt like being called a liar. I have been around alot of shit in my life, but I tell you, this guy actually scared me with the look in his eyes....

He started yelling and asking me if I was calling him a liar. After I assured him that I believed him, and he calmed down, I asked him:

"Why the hell would someone own an incinerator?"

And he says:

"Deer huntin, dawg. Thats how alot of hunters dispose of the remains and bones that they dont use. They're gone. They're ashes now. I will bet you $2K that they never get found."

Then it really clicked in.... He wasnt bullshitting....

... (Snipped out of respect)

These guys are ruthless and WILL kill again, even if it years from now. They need to be questioned and stay in jail, where they belong.

I think the whole "JD" and Nibbe thing was just little Nibbe trying to be "cool" by saying his brother did it.

Grande

03-24-2009, 11:30 AM

Keep the tips coming people if you would like justice served in Jamie Harper, Heather Zimmerman and Jane Doe's cases.

Jeromy Ramm will be out on parole and back out prowling the streets of Rantoul and the surrounding communities in the coming weeks. Larry Conway's projected release date is next fall. If you have ANY information that will help bring closure to these cases PLEASE come forward now or forever hold your peace.

Grande

03-24-2009, 11:40 AM

How should I dispose of the bones and offal from my deer?

Bones and offal can be disposed through rendering, burial, incineration or landfill.

Source: Illinois Department of Agriculture
http://www.agr.state.il.us/AnimalHW/cwd/faq.html

Grande

03-24-2009, 11:48 AM

Majestic Gas Incinerator - $50

http://i39.tinypic.com/2rp7jht.jpg

http://chambana.craigslist.org/for/1065061333.html

AmandaReckonwith

03-25-2009, 07:47 PM

Grande.... what a perfect way to get rid of a body. All this time we thought it would be the pits.

So, JR will be coming home soon. I hope Barney Fife is watching him, not that I expect any grand effort. You have done more in finding leads than they have.

Darlene

03-29-2009, 02:24 AM

I am new to this site. I have seen several references to a missing woman from Thomasboro, refered to Jane Doe. Who/what is this all about? I am from Rantoul, and think that there is some sort of nut case doing all of this. At least I hope its one person, its scary enough thinking there is one let alone more doing this sort of thing. Anyone with info on this Jane Doe case please answer.
Thanks.

annalyzer

03-29-2009, 02:34 AM

Faith

03-29-2009, 02:49 AM

Kissy Face

05-01-2009, 12:32 AM

Hmmm.. At the time this crazy guy was telling you these things Grande did you go to the police with this info...And whats the guys name?

Pauli

05-01-2009, 01:04 AM

I've noticed your posts on a couple different missing persons KissyFace.. if you have something to say come right out and say it instead of himhawin around... and hmmmmmmm all over the place.

I'm not Grande, but I will answer your questions for you. We have very good communications with LE, if we feel something we find out is viable information we pass it on to them. That's why we are here, to see if we can help find missing persons.... As for the guys name, for legal reasons that will not be given out to anyone but LE.

Grande

05-01-2009, 10:30 AM

Hmmm.. At the time this crazy guy was telling you these things Grande did you go to the police with this info...And whats the guys name?

Welcome Kissy Face.

For the record I wasn't the source of that information. I stated that it was from an anonymous source if you go back and look. Regardless, I did forward the information on to local and federal LE as has been done in the past with other tips in this case.

blanch1980

05-01-2009, 12:16 PM

jamie is my best friend and those sick bastards need to tell what they know we all deserve closer.

sarahhod

05-02-2009, 05:33 AM

jamie is my best friend and those sick bastards need to tell what they know we all deserve closer.

Welcome to HFTM blanch.

I am so sorry you are going through this nightmare.

ITA with your post. These sick people need to fess up to what they know.

I pray that Jamie will be found and justice will be served.

IMO....It is coming....:innocent0001::innocent0001:

Hope you stick around with us.

:attention:WHERE IS JAMIE!!:attention:

sarahhod

05-11-2009, 08:14 AM

Thinking about you today Jamie. :1222423: :1222423: :1222423:

:attention: WHERE ARE YOU!! SOMEONE KNOWS.:attention:

Grande

05-13-2009, 03:55 PM

Web Extra Heather Zimmerman
Reported by: Dave Benton / WCIA 3
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 @04:12pm CST

A website was set up to honor Heather Zimmerman.

If you have information about her disappearance, call the Champaign County Sheriff's Office at 217/384-1204. One investigator is assigned to this case. But the chief investigator has been involved from the beginning.

Or you can send in a web tip to Champaign County Crimestoppers.

Zimmerman's case is similar to the case of Jamie Harper. Both vanished after going to a party in Rantoul. Harper was 20-years old when disappeared in March 2007. There's a discussion page at Help Find the Missing. Investigators check from time to time to see what bloggers are saying on this and other websites. They have also looked into any links between the two cases.

http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=84672

Grande

05-29-2009, 11:25 AM

5/29/2009

This is an e-mail from the Illinois Automated Victim Notification System. The offender for whom you have registered to receive notification, Jeromy Ramm, with offender number R34673, is tentatively scheduled to be released from Graham Correctional Center on 6/12/2009. You will receive another notification from the Illinois Automated Victim Notification System when the offender has been released.

Pauli

05-29-2009, 12:36 PM

I sure wish something would come out before the 12th...:frown:

nanabillie

12-19-2009, 09:05 PM

I cannot find anything new about Jamie's case. I will continue to look.

Grande

03-10-2010, 12:52 PM

20 Year Old Paxton Woman Disappeared 3 Years Ago Today
Reported by: Christa Dubson/WCIA 3 News
Tuesday, Mar 9, 2010 @12:23pm CST

It's been three years since she vanished. But family and friends haven't forgotten a missing loved one from Paxton.

It's the anniversary of Jamie Harper's disappearance. The 20-year-old was last seen leaving a party in Rantoul in 2007. There have been numerous searches to try to find her.

Police are treating it like an abduction. But say they haven't ruled anything out.

Crime Crimestoppers if you have any information.

http://illinoishomepage.net/content/fulltext/?cid=136981

Grande

03-10-2010, 12:56 PM

What a poor excuse for an update.