Breaking News: Accused Ex-Cop Bobby Cutts Jr. Sobs on Stand: 'I Didn't Mean to Hurt

[Texas53]

Breaking News >> Accused Ex-Cop Bobby Cutts Jr. Sobs on Stand: 'I Didn't Mean to Hurt Her': Watch Live

http://www.foxnews.com/

This is the only link for the moment!

Its on now. I hope his azz fries! But I think he made a deal to confess on the stand so he will get life!!!

[Texas53]

His tears appear forced. What a POS SOB! If he' have kept his pants zipped, then this might not be happening!

[Texas53]

His sniffling is for his own sorry azz.

[Texas53]

bump

[KittyMom]

drama king :rolleye0001:

[Texas53]

Everything is about him, "this isn't supposed to be happening to me. I'm supposed to have a normal life."

[gibbrishclown]

Jurors also heard from another of Cutts' friends, Richard Mitchell, who said Cutts threatened to kill Davis and throw her body in the woods about a month before she disappeared. Mitchell added that he believed Cutts was joking

But he didn't mean to? I hope he doesn't make it to the electric chair... I hope he's taken out in a manner of unspecified violence by his peers in prison before he gets a chance at a humane death. :mad: scumbag is way too kind for this man, but I value my posting privledges here enough to leave it at that.

[Texas53]

Jurors also heard from another of Cutts' friends, Richard Mitchell, who said Cutts threatened to kill Davis and throw her body in the woods about a month before she disappeared. Mitchell added that he believed Cutts was joking

But he didn't mean to? I hope he doesn't make it to the electric chair... I hope he's taken out in a manner of unspecified violence by his peers in prison before he gets a chance at a humane death. :mad: scumbag is way too kind for this man, but I value my posting privledges here enough to leave it at that.

The only reason he is coming clean on the stand is because a deal has already been made to give him life instead of Death.

[KittyMom]

Jurors also heard from another of Cutts' friends, Richard Mitchell, who said Cutts threatened to kill Davis and throw her body in the woods about a month before she disappeared. Mitchell added that he believed Cutts was joking

But he didn't mean to? I hope he doesn't make it to the electric chair... I hope he's taken out in a manner of unspecified violence by his peers in prison before he gets a chance at a humane death. :mad: scumbag is way too kind for this man, but I value my posting privledges here enough to leave it at that.

With him being LE, is that possible?

[KittyMom]

I wish we could see him eyes not his freakin ear.

[gibbrishclown]

The only reason he is coming clean on the stand is because a deal has already been made to give him life instead of Death. Are they going to take care of him in prison or might be be in gen pop? I definitely don't want to hear he's going to the country club with the white collar criminals!!

With him being LE, is that possible? IDK I'm just hoping here.

[KittyMom]

Please tell me that the pros is going to rip him a new one and not kid glove this creep.

[Texas53]

I wish we could see him eyes not his freakin ear.


If he was really crying as much as he's sniffling, you would be able to see some tears fall to the side of his face a little bit. He probably has sinus. He only is crying because he got caught. Not because he is the murderer of a woman and her unborn child. IMO

[Texas53]

Are they going to take care of him in prison or might be be in gen pop? I definitely don't want to hear he's going to the country club with the white collar criminals!!

IDK I'm just hoping here.

Country Club, white collar is usually Federal or minimum security. He will go into Solitary Confinement in State Prison.

[KittyMom]

He's waving that hanky like a flag. If he were crying that thing would be soakeed by now.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[KittyMom]

I hope his parents arelistening to his sob story.

[KittyMom]

pros is up

[KittyMom]

ooooohhhhh...did you hear tht?

[Battnt]

I'm watching to KM!...I cant believe his story!....

[Battnt]

pros is up

And they are doing a good job to!....

[KittyMom]

This pros is giving it to him good. :hifive:

[KittyMom]

"Do you know what happens to a baby in the womb when its mother dies and they receive no immediate medical attention? Do you think baby Cloe died right away?"

[KittyMom]

He sticks his finger in his nose and then puts it in her face.

yuck!!!!

[Tam5115]

Boy, he's really putting on a show now.

[Texas53]

After Bobby Cutts Jr. left Jessie Davis’ body in a County park, he:

– Stopped at a store so Myisha Ferrell could get some cigarettes.

– Washed his pickup truck at the nearby car wash. “I had bugs all over my windshield,” Cutts said.

– Got some mulch.

– Went to football practice.

– Applied for a home loan.

– Picked up his daughter, and went to Wal-Mart to buy her a toy.

Meanwhile, Cutts left Blake, age 2, at home with an open bottle of bleach. When the ADA asked why, "At that time Blake was not the top priority,” said Cutts.

This guy had no remorse for what he did and showed that he cared nothing for Blake. The only reason he would see the boy, I'm guessing, is because there was a child support order and he wanted to get his money's worth. What piece of worthless excrement his is. IMO

[sunstar]

If only I could see the jury's reaction to his testimony. Does he really expect them to believe him?

[Tracian]

Sorry if this was already posted, Nancy is going to cover this POS's sobbing tonight, in her next segment.

[sunstar]

Sorry if this was already posted, Nancy is going to cover this POS's sobbing tonight, in her next segment.

I saw it! Of course Nancy doesn't believe any of the garbage Cutts was trying to convince the jury of. I was reading through the blog at http://www.newsnet5.com/news/15268368/detail.html and some of his testimony is ridiculous. Trying to revive a pregnant woman with bleach? :doh:

[Tracian]

I saw it! Of course Nancy doesn't believe any of the garbage Cutts was trying to convince the jury of. I was reading through the blog at http://www.newsnet5.com/news/15268368/detail.html and some of his testimony is ridiculous. Trying to revive a pregnant woman with bleach? :doh:


It helps when one splashes it all over the room....what an evil creature...who with an IQ above room temperature would buy that nonsense.

[sunstar]

It helps when one splashes it all over the room....what an evil creature...who with an IQ above room temperature would buy that nonsense.
There's just so much of his testimony that is incredulous to me. I believe he thought up this story after LE started interrogating him but when the crime actually happened he'd tried to set it up like someone had broken into her house and kidnapped her. I remember her purse was dumped on the kitchen floor, cell phone missing and the back patio door left open.

[Tracian]

There's just so much of his testimony that is incredulous to me. I believe he thought up this story after LE started interrogating him but when the crime actually happened he'd tried to set it up like someone had broken into her house and kidnapped her. I remember her purse was dumped on the kitchen floor, cell phone missing and the back patio door left open.


Well, that is typical, with this type of humanoid...they mimic whatever seems right to get there butt out of trouble.

[Hope]

Self-serving POS.

[sunstar]

Well, that is typical, with this type of humanoid...they mimic whatever seems right to get there butt out of trouble.

I just hope he lost all credibility with the jury ~ especially when they saw the photos of Jessie's remains. :(

[KittyMom]

I absolutely loved the pros' first sentences to Cutts..."Mr. Cutts, do you have sinsus? Because I don't see any tears?" lolol...

[Pauli]

[OH] Officer Cutts Trial, Day 6 - Cutts appearing to weep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCyEaR_1lE

[Texas53]

What I hope will stay in the jurors minds is that after he left Jessie's body in that park, he then:
– Stopped at a store so Myisha Ferrell could get some cigarettes.

– Washed his pickup truck at the nearby car wash. “I had bugs all over my windshield,” Cutts said.

– Got some mulch.

– Went to football practice.

– Applied for a home loan.

– Picked up his daughter, and went to Wal-Mart to buy her a toy.

And left 2 yr old Blake alone in the house with a bottle of open bleach. Had that child injested any of that bleach, by the time he was actually found, he might have been dead or close to death. All because per Cutts, "Blake was not a priority."

So far, everything is about him. Not Jessie or his own son. What a sleeze. $1200 ($354 for his unborn daughter) was being paid out to 3 women for 4 kids, he had approx a $3500 mortgage and made $5800 per month. But during the whole time, he had or was spending time with other women. Just another DP narcistic psycho. IMO

[Claudia]

He sticks his finger in his nose and then puts it in her face.

yuck!!!!

I didn't get to watch - who stuck their finger where & did what & why??? :shock:

[kellabeck]

Only saw a bit of this sorry performance. His acting is less credible than Paris Hilton's.

I heard a lot of sniffling but saw no tears. He is about to be convicted and I think it will be in record time.

[Texas53]

Boy, he's really putting on a show now.

Only saw a bit of this sorry performance. His acting is less credible than Paris Hilton's.

I heard a lot of sniffling but saw no tears. He is about to be convicted and I think it will be in record time.

He had what I refer to as "Susan Smith" tears. Remember she was the one who drove her beautiful babies off into a lake, but she jumped out of the car.
She had tears like his when she reported them being kidnapped. :mad:

[Texas53]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330402,00.html

Quote from Article:

After more than two hours of testimony, Cutts sat sniffling on the stand as assistant prosecutor Dennis Barr began his cross-examination.

"Mr. Cutts do you have a cold? Because I don't see any tears," Barr said.

Defense attorneys objected.

"Did you cry this much when you dumped Jessie's body in the park?" Barr said.

"After I dumped her body, yes, I did cry," Cutts said.


He cried "Susan Smith" tears for Jessie. For his own sorry self, the tears will be real.

This article hit all the high spots in this trial. The Jury will probably get the case late this afternoon or tomorrow. I predict a verdict by Friday if not sooner. The Defense will be trying to get him convicted on a lessor charge since he testified about what he "did". IMO

[StoneFox]

He had what I refer to as "Susan Smith" tears. Remember she was the one who drove her beautiful babies off into a lake, but she jumped out of the car.
She had tears like his when she reported them being kidnapped. :mad:

On GVS show last night they interviewed a Fox reporter who was in the court room during Cutts testimony. She said there were no visible tears. Said it was clear to everyone in the court room, even the jury that Cutts was faking his remorse.

I like the judge's ruling this morning, the jury will NOT be instructed on the charge of manslaughter. :hifive:

[Texas53]

On GVS show last night they interviewed a Fox reporter who was in the court room during Cutts testimony. She said there were no visible tears. Said it was clear to everyone in the court room, even the jury that Cutts was faking his remorse.

I like the judge's ruling this morning, the jury will NOT be instructed on the charge of manslaughter. :hifive:


I have to say if they give this man the Death Penalty, I would make a special trip to Ohio to be there when its done. The same goes for DP, if they ever find Stacey's body and convict him. I haven't seen 2 narciscistic people like these 2 since Scott Peterson!

[Dotcomrade]

What a piece of garbage Cutts is. This SOB was a cop :confused: I can't phathom leaving a baby alone for TWO minutes let alone TWO DAYS. :mad: Watching him weep........he needs acting lessons.

[Texas53]

What a piece of garbage Cutts is. This SOB was a cop :confused: I can't phathom leaving a baby alone for TWO minutes let alone TWO DAYS. :mad: Watching him weep........he needs acting lessons.


He has 3 living children: a daughter in CA, who is about 8 and there is a restraining order against him for the child and the mother, the daughter by his wife who is about 5, and Blake who is about 3. Chloe would have been his fourth child. He was already paying $1200 per month for the 3 living children.

Keeping his pants zipped or using a cover on it, might have kept this horrible situation from happening. He also had other GF's during his affair with Jessie, being married to his wife, therefore his is lower then a slug.

[StoneFox]

He has 3 living children: a daughter in CA, who is about 8 and there is a restraining order against him for the child and the mother, the daughter by his wife who is about 5, and Blake who is about 3. Chloe would have been his fourth child. He was already paying $1200 per month for the 3 living children.

Keeping his pants zipped or using a cover on it, might have kept this horrible situation from happening. He also had other GF's during his affair with Jessie, being married to his wife, therefore his is lower then a slug.

One of those GFs testified she became pregnant by Cutts and decided to get an abortion. I wonder how many of those GFs are out there. Yeah, the guy needs to learn how to zip it up. Of course, he won't have to worry about that in prison.

Is the death penalty available on this case? I thought they weren't pursuing it because he surrendered himself. I might be thinking of another case. I've been watching so many trials lately. :z0tdntknw:

[KittyMom]

I didn't get to watch - who stuck their finger where & did what & why??? :shock:

Cutts says that he did this to Jessie when they were arguing and that she bit his finger.

[Texas53]

Closing Arguements are now in session. Cutts has a smug look on his sorry face. I wonder if he actually thinks he will get off.

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Death Penalty is still on the table, so yes, he can get Death.

[Texas53]

Does anyone know the make up of the Jury? Number of women vs men?

[KittyMom]

I think Cutts needs a vasectomy with a dull spoon.

[StoneFox]

Closing Arguements are now in session. Cutts has a smug look on his sorry face. I wonder if he actually thinks he will get off.

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Death Penalty is still on the table, so yes, he can get Death.

Thank you Texas friend :0012:

I must have been thinking of another trial. This is good news. I hope he gets death. Anyone that murders an innocent child should not be able to walk this earth.

[KittyMom]

Does anyone know the make up of the Jury? Number of women vs men?

I don't know but would love to. After the college student rape/murder trial where the defendent got off because a lone juror believe his bullcarp story about getting off on a dead body, I just don't have much faith in jurors anymore.

[Texas53]

I don't know but would love to. After the college student rape/murder trial where the defendent got off because a lone juror believe his bullcarp story about getting off on a dead body, I just don't have much faith in jurors anymore.


I know there is a racial divide on this, or was until he admitted killing her. We all don't want to think about race as an issue. But his parents brought that out last year when he was arrested and charged and they felt it was because of his race and that Jessie was white.

[KittyMom]

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/15023291.html

CANTON: A 12-member jury was seated this afternoon in the Bobby Cutts Jr. murder trial.

The jury is made up of six men and six women, plus six alternates.

[Texas53]

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/15023291.html

Men are most often willing to convict then women, if the evidence supports. The evidence supports. IMO

[StoneFox]

I know there is a racial divide on this, or was until he admitted killing her. We all don't want to think about race as an issue. But his parents brought that out last year when he was arrested and charged and they felt it was because of his race and that Jessie was white.

So true Texas. His parents were the FIRST to bring it up and make an issue of it. Obviously Cutts has a liking for white females, those seem to be the ones he chased and impregnated. Bobby's choice!

[KittyMom]

Men are most often willing to convict then women, if the evidence supports. The evidence supports. IMO

I hope that the jury can't get the photos of Jessie and Chloe out of their heads. If they have to sleep each night with those images in their minds they'd have to be totally disgusted by Cutts. Did they bring the comforter in to court? I think that would be VERY impressive to jurors as smells and visuals have a way of sticking in your mind. The smell of death never leaves you.

[StoneFox]

I don't know but would love to. After the college student rape/murder trial where the defendent got off because a lone juror believe his bullcarp story about getting off on a dead body, I just don't have much faith in jurors anymore.

After Spector and Orange Taylor hung jurys, I too have become skeptical of jurors' ability to make a decision using the BARD instruction. The jurors that hung on the Spector and Taylor jurys were both engineers. I hope we don't have any of those on this jury.

[Texas53]

So true Texas. His parents were the FIRST to bring it up and make an issue of it. Obviously Cutts has a liking for white females, those seem to be the ones he chased and impregnated. Bobby's choice!

His attorney says after all his GF's testified, there is no indication of agravated murder. None of them were pregnant!

Race card being snuck in. Jessie's family complained of abuse and not getting along, but no one on Bobby's side complained.

[Dotcomrade]

I think Cutts needs a vasectomy with a dull spoon.
:girl_haha:

[Texas53]

I hope that the jury can't get the photos of Jessie and Chloe out of their heads. If they have to sleep each night with those images in their minds they'd have to be totally disgusted by Cutts. Did they bring the comforter in to court? I think that would be VERY impressive to jurors as smells and visuals have a way of sticking in your mind. The smell of death never leaves you.

When I was juror on a murder trial, every night I went home I would see the autopsy photos in my head of victim. Normally, when a victim is strangled, blood rises and will be in the eyes. After we convicted the man who killed her and hung her body over a fence, I have never been able to invision those pics in my mind. She got justice and is at rest now.

[Texas53]

:girl_haha:


Just slam it in a car door and don't open the door for an hour :D

[KittyMom]

This so reminds me of Orange Taylor's trial for the murder of Laura Dickinson. ME wasn't able to determine exact TOD or means either.

[KittyMom]

I just love the way this lawyer talks about Jessie calling Kelly telling her about the sex she and Cutts have and how Jessie calls him for pampers. Makes her sound like a bad person causing trouble for poor Bobby.

[StoneFox]

Just slam it in a car door and don't open the door for an hour :D


:hifive:

[Texas53]

I just love the way this lawyer talks about Jessie calling Kelly telling her about the sex she and Cutts have and how Jessie calls him for pampers. Makes her sound like a bad person causing trouble for poor Bobby.

Its always the victim who is put on trial instead of the murderer. :mad:

I'm sure no one had to hold him back to have sex with Jessie or any of the others. Thats where his only brain is. :mad:

[Dotcomrade]

Just slam it in a car door and don't open the door for an hour :D That should do it ! :grin: Remind me never to tick you off! LoL

[KittyMom]

http://www.ohio.com/news/15060841.html

The jury is made up of six men and six women — all of whom appear to be white. The six alternates also are split evenly by gender, and one woman appears to be black.

Cutts is black and Davis was white.

Defense attorneys have previously raised the issue of the ''racial dynamics'' of the case, and had requested that the jury pool be expanded to increase the racial diversity of potential jurors.

Mack declined to comment Wednesday on the racial makeup of the jury.


There's the appeal if its needed. :rolleye0001:

[StoneFox]

I just love the way this lawyer talks about Jessie calling Kelly telling her about the sex she and Cutts have and how Jessie calls him for pampers. Makes her sound like a bad person causing trouble for poor Bobby.

And because she did that, she deserves to be murdered. It's not like Kelly wasn't aware of Bobby's affair with Jessie and his responsibility to Blake.

This defense attorney is making me mad the way he is blaming Jessie for Bobby getting upset and murdering her. :rolleye0001:

[KittyMom]

Its always the victim who is put on trial instead of the murderer. :mad:

I'm sure no one had to hold him back to have sex with Jessie or any of the others. Thats where his only brain is. :mad:

Oh, if only he could be that popular in prison. :girl_haha:

[KittyMom]

oh, bad woman she bit his finger

blame the victim, blame the victim, blame the victim

[Texas53]

Oh, if only he could be that popular in prison. :girl_haha:

I predict: Guilty with Life
This will allow him to be put in the general population. The old rule of protecting guilty cops in prison convicted of murder, doesn't apply anymore.

He will be safer in prison than he will be if they find him not guilty.

Even though the make-up of the jury is white, I know many Black Women who feel he is guilty and should be put to death. So whether is one black woman or 4 black people or more, a woman being murdered with a full-term fetus does not sit well.

[Texas53]

He will either be popular with Bubba in prison, or have some prison gang after his sorry butt. He is going to need some Big Bubba in the prison to protect him. (thats if he does not get Death as the penalty).

[KittyMom]

How is he making 6K a month without paying some major taxes?

[Texas53]

He was a good father? Left his son alone by himself with open bleach, didn't care to check on him and of course, kept Mr. Happy poking anything it would go in. Yep good father and good man. :mad:

He purposely caused the death of Chloe when he did not see medical attention for Jesse and took her to her shallow grave and left her there.

[KittyMom]

You know, I just never knew that LE folks were so well-off. If you believe Cuts and Peterson, LE have extra hours in the week to work these extra jobs and make bundles doing it. My hubby works an extra job, but he doesn't make this kind of jack. I'm just not getting it.

[Texas53]

How is he making 6K a month without paying some major taxes?


Part-time jobs which allowed him part-time booty calls with any female who would take him on. Most all cops take on part-time jobs because they have to.

[KittyMom]

He was a good father? Left his son alone by himself with open bleach, didn't care to check on him and of course, kept Mr. Happy poking anything it would go in. Yep good father and good man. :mad:

He purposely caused the death of Chloe when he did not see medical attention for Jesse and took her to her shallow grave and left her there.


Oh, his lawyer says except that ONE day. :rolleye0001:

[KittyMom]

Part-time jobs which allowed him part-time booty calls with any female who would take him on. Most all cops take on part-time jobs because they have to.

Maybe his part-time job was being a "call-guy". :22wink:

[KittyMom]

Oh, I hope pros gets up there and all fired up and slams it home.

[Texas53]

Both Defense Attorneys doing the closing, they are desparate to get him off.

What do you want to bet, another woman is pregnant by Cutts? However, we wouldn't hear of it til after this is over.

She's reaching far to say Blake caused the purse to be strown on the floor.

[KittyMom]

blaa, blaa, blaa...money, money, money...

[KittyMom]

lol...judge tells lawyer to slow down. lol Isn't fast talking a sign of lying?

[Texas53]

Prosecutors have already given their closing. Just Cutts testimony alone, if I knew nothing else about the case except what I heard in court, it would Guilty on all 3 charges including Abuse of a Corpse.

[KittyMom]

oh, now its Blake's fault...

[KittyMom]

Prosecutors have already given their closing. Just Cutts testimony alone, if I knew nothing else about the case except what I heard in court, it would Guilty on all 3 charges including Abuse of a Corpse.

won't pros have an opportunity to re-but?

[Texas53]

won't pros have an opportunity to re-but?


In Texas, no. The next chance is the penalty stage of he is found guilty.

In fact, I don't think any state allows rebuttal on a closing. Once you have said your piece, thats it.

[KittyMom]

Boy they are reaching...she goes on and on about Wiseburg immediately knowing Cutts was involved and then has to say, well he was

What????

[Texas53]

Someone besides the murderer sent text messages from HIS phone?

I don't think so..

[KittyMom]

In Texas, no. The next chance is the penalty stage of he is found guilty.

In fact, I don't think any state allows rebuttal on a closing. Once you have said your piece, thats it.

I've watched trials where pros was allowed rebut...iirc, Couey in FL was one.

[KittyMom]

Maybe rebut is the wrong word. I just know that I've watched trials where the pros was allowed to "speak" after defense closing.

[Texas53]

Due to the condition of the body, blood was not available and this information is known. She is an idiot! That woman doesn't know science from her mouth.

What does tie Cutts to scene at her house, is his admission that he was there. Blake touched the bleach container but Jessie, Blake's and the murdered's fingerprints are in the home.

She is trying to confuse the jurors. Just because you strangle a person, does not mean they will bleed out on their surroundings.

[KittyMom]

Blame Blake again...Blake, that bad kid, spilled the bleach.

[KittyMom]

How can this woman defend this creep? She's female and possibly a mother. Does she not have a soul? How does she sleep at night?

[KittyMom]

2 minutes...great, the carp is piling up fast.

[Texas53]

How can this woman defend this creep? She's female and possibly a mother. Does she not have a soul? How does she sleep at night?


When you take on a case to defend someone, you have to try the case without predjudice regardless of what you think. The client has to be given the best defense the lawyer can give.

[KittyMom]

pros will get 15 minutes...I hope its good

[KittyMom]

When you take on a case to defend someone, you have to try the case without predjudice regardless of what you think. The client has to be given the best defense the lawyer can give.

I know that...I just couldn't do it. I have too much sympathy for victims.

[Texas53]

I know that...I just couldn't do it. I have too much sympathy for victims.


I could prosecute, but no way could I defend someone like him.

[KittyMom]

This is the first time I've seen a case where the judge had to step down from the bench to have a sidebar.

[KittyMom]

I could prosecute, but no way could I defend someone like him.

I'm not sure I could prosecute, they have to be pretty level-headed at time too. My disgust would be pretty evident on my face.

[KittyMom]

Did you watch the Couey trial? I wanted so badly to reach thru the screen and break those freakin' crayolas!!!

[Texas53]

I'm not sure I could prosecute, they have to be pretty level-headed at time too. My disgust would be pretty evident on my face.

I guess we can say you and I would not be successful criminal defense attorneys. :)

I got to see some of the Couey trial. To me the crayons deal was just for show and sympathy.

[KittyMom]

lol...I've seen the stenographer nod her head a few times. I bet she could write a book!

[KittyMom]

"Bobby Cutts is an effective liar." Truer words have not be spoken.

[KittyMom]

lunch break

[StoneFox]

Did you watch the Couey trial? I wanted so badly to reach thru the screen and break those freakin' crayolas!!!


:yes2: :hifive:

[Tracian]

I just love this testimony. He took Jesse's body out of the house, so his son that he left all alone in that house would not find his mother in that condition.

What a guy.....

[Texas53]

:yes2: :hifive:


What I would have broken would not have been the crayolas. It would have been much more personal.

[ravenmom1]

Cutts is a PUTZ!!!
:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[Tracian]

What I would have broken would not have been the crayolas. It would have been much more personal.


Yeah, that was my line of thinking as well, that man would have pooped a rainbow.

[ravenmom1]

I just love this testimony. He took Jesse's body out of the house, so his son that he left all alone in that house would not find his mother in that condition.

What a guy.....

Yeah... what a guy... left his 2 1/2 year old ALONE for 2 days.... I can only IMAGINE what 'could have' happened to this poor little guy. Also, what really gets my goat is that Bobby Cutts keeps saying that Blake was asleep while this was going on and DID not see.. well, how in the world did this little guy come up with so much seemingly accurate information?? LIAR LIAR LIAR

[Texas53]

Its with the jury now. I expect a Guilty with Life sentence before Thursday afternoon. JMHO

[Tracian]

I am hoping for the DP, but LWOP, and his sorry butt in general population works for me.

[StoneFox]

I've been over on Jensen board. Is judge in Cutts giving jury instructions now?

TIA

[Texas53]

I've been over on Jensen board. Is judge in Cutts giving jury instructions now?

TIA

No. Lunch first then instructions. No more closing remarks from the attys.

[KittyMom]

Judge is giving instructions.

[StoneFox]

Thank you KittyMom and Texas53!

[KittyMom]

juror #423 just called to the back

[KittyMom]

I think they inadvertantly showed the juror. The judge was beside her and a court worker was handing her kleenex.

[KittyMom]

camera showing Jessie's mom, dad, other family in courtroom

[Tracian]

Yeah... what a guy... left his 2 1/2 year old ALONE for 2 days.... I can only IMAGINE what 'could have' happened to this poor little guy. Also, what really gets my goat is that Bobby Cutts keeps saying that Blake was asleep while this was going on and DID not see.. well, how in the world did this little guy come up with so much seemingly accurate information?? LIAR LIAR LIAR


Banfeild just brought up a good point, Cutts left that baby alone, with an open bottle of bleach within his reach. What in the heck was he thinking? (should anyone believe that fairy tale he offered) Was he hoping that the baby would die also?

[KittyMom]

Banfeild just brought up a good point, Cutts left that baby alone, with an open bottle of bleach within his reach. What in the heck was he thinking? (should anyone believe that fairy tale he offered) Was he hoping that the baby would die also?

That would've been one less expense for him.

[KittyMom]

Interesting read of court proceedings.
http://www.newsnet5.com/akroncanton/15251106/detail.html

[Tracian]

Thanks for all the links KittyMom!!

[KellBell]

So the judge wasn't finished with instruction?

[Tracian]

That would've been one less expense for him.


and it seems one less 'witness'....:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[StoneFox]

Is there sound on the fox feed? I'm getting picture, but no sound.

[Texas53]

Is there sound on the fox feed? I'm getting picture, but no sound.


Me too!

[StoneFox]

Ah, sound just came on for me.

[KittyMom]

The judge was reading and then said, I'm sorry we have to take a break. Stay where you are. And then called the juror back.

[KittyMom]

I was caught in the posting twilight zone...I'm finally back and have audio.

[Texas53]

Didn't the judge tell the jury to bring a suitcase as they would be sequestered on this case? That will help in making a decision of the verdict.

[KittyMom]

awwww...Bobby is sweepy.

[Texas53]

awwww...Bobby is sweepy.


yep.....he's scared he will meet Bubba and Bubba will not be kind to him, but will make him his luv slave!

[StoneFox]

Didn't the judge tell the jury to bring a suitcase as they would be sequestered on this case? That will help in making a decision of the verdict.

Oh, did he? I agree, that will prompt a faster verdict.

:innocent0001: for guilty with the death penalty!

[Texas53]

If it takes longer then Thursday or Friday to get a verdict, then things will be leaning towards Cutts. You never know how a jury will rule, even if a murder is taped while happening.

[KittyMom]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330402,00.html

Jurors may consider a murder charge, which would spare Cutts from a possible death sentence. They were to be sequestered overnight if they didn't reach a verdict Tuesday.



You were correct Tex. They'll not lollygag.

[StickyBeak]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330402,00.html



You were correct Tex. They'll not lollygag.

I am awed by the way this Judge handled this case. Very Professional IMO.
The Prosecutor was right on, kudos to the people who elected him, very astute. BC's team, shameful, but they had to change course in middle, so with what they had, certainly gave it their all. In my opinion, he is guilty.
I think there was alot of stress in this relationship and his life, nothing constitues his denial to LE, no help at all, while he struggled "How can I explain this", I believe he acted out after Jessie confronted him and maybe that elbow came up as he said, but he forgot to include, how he turned around and grabbed her by the throat and choaked the life out of her while poor Blake watched. JMO.
The jury has an awful lot of decision to make with regards to 3 counts.
So today, I hope they can select a foreperson and get on with the boggel they face tomorrow while deliberating. LWOP seems doable. A Cold Hearted Snake, repeating myself, Paul Abdul's only song seems written for Bobby Cutts.

Peace for Jessie, Chloe and the Family :1222423:

[Texas53]

I am awed by the way this Judge handled this case. Very Professional IMO.
The Prosecutor was right on, kudos to the people who elected him, very astute. BC's team, shameful, but they had to change course in middle, so with what they had, certainly gave it their all. In my opinion, he is guilty.
I think there was alot of stress in this relationship and his life, nothing constitues his denial to LE, no help at all, while he struggled "How can I explain this", I believe he acted out after Jessie confronted him and maybe that elbow came up as he said, but he forgot to include, how he turned around and grabbed her by the throat and choaked the life out of her while poor Blake watched. JMO.
The jury has an awful lot of decision to make with regards to 3 counts.
So today, I hope they can select a foreperson and get on with the boggel they face tomorrow while deliberating. LWOP seems doable. A Cold Hearted Snake, repeating myself, Paul Abdul's only song seems written for Bobby Cutts.

Peace for Jessie, Chloe and the Family :1222423:

All the "i's" have to be dotted and "t's" crossed correctly or this case and its verdict could be thrown out on appeal and they would have to start over. I don't think anyone, especially her family, would want to go through another trial.

Actually, to get LWOP, he could be thrown into the general population (of course, due to available room in a prison) and that is far worse for a Rogue Cop than a death sentence. Plus he will never be free to womanize ever again or contribute to making babies he doesn't care about in the first place!
Plus he might start singing in a soprano key...(if he sings at all) :D

[sunstar]

What I hope will stay in the jurors minds is that after he left Jessie's body in that park, he then:
– Stopped at a store so Myisha Ferrell could get some cigarettes.

– Washed his pickup truck at the nearby car wash. “I had bugs all over my windshield,” Cutts said.

– Got some mulch.

– Went to football practice.

– Applied for a home loan.

– Picked up his daughter, and went to Wal-Mart to buy her a toy.

And left 2 yr old Blake alone in the house with a bottle of open bleach. Had that child injested any of that bleach, by the time he was actually found, he might have been dead or close to death. All because per Cutts, "Blake was not a priority."

So far, everything is about him. Not Jessie or his own son. What a sleeze. $1200 ($354 for his unborn daughter) was being paid out to 3 women for 4 kids, he had approx a $3500 mortgage and made $5800 per month. But during the whole time, he had or was spending time with other women. Just another DP narcistic psycho. IMO
And don't forget too that he'd left the patio door open so Blake could've gotten out. Thank goodness all he did was retrieve some hamburger buns from the kitchen counter and take them to his room!

I hope what really sticks in the jurors minds are the photos of Jessie after she was found. :(

[Texas53]

And don't forget too that he'd left the patio door open so Blake could've gotten out. Thank goodness all he did was retrieve some hamburger buns from the kitchen counter and take them to his room!

I hope what really sticks in the jurors minds are the photos of Jessie after she was found. :(


Other than being selfish, egotistical, a horrible excuse of a parent, too lazy to wrap it up, a narsistic psycho, and a murderer, he was actually a cop who was supposed to protect and serve!

[sunstar]

Other than being selfish, egotistical, a horrible excuse of a parent, too lazy to wrap it up, a narsistic psycho, and a murderer, he was actually a cop who was supposed to protect and serve!

And for that reason alone he deserves the DP, imo. I believe those who are sworn to protect us should be held to a higher standard.

[Texas53]

And for that reason alone he deserves the DP, imo. I believe those who are sworn to protect us should be held to a higher standard.

Can you imagine what he might have done if some regular citizen crossed him? He had no problem in killing Jessie, her unborn baby, or leaving Blake alone to fend for himself. The man is evil!

[KittyMom]

posting this site as a place to look for breaking news

http://www.newsnet5.com/cuttstrial/index.html

[KittyMom]

Interesting poll

http://cf.newsnet5.com/nn5/sh/con_surveycontest_display/displaySurveyResults.cfm?contentid=15279804&sitekey=NN5&questionum=1&answer1=2

What do you think of Cutts' testimony?
Choice Votes Percentage of 3124 Votes
I believe the slaying was an accident. 370 12%
I don't believe him. He meant to kill her. 2314 74%
I don't know. 233 7%
I haven't heard the testimony. 207 7%

[sunstar]

Can you imagine what he might have done if some regular citizen crossed him? He had no problem in killing Jessie, her unborn baby, or leaving Blake alone to fend for himself. The man is evil!
That's where I'm coming from too. He's someone the public placed their trust in and he's the exact opposite.

[StickyBeak]

And for that reason alone he deserves the DP, imo. I believe those who are sworn to protect us should be held to a higher standard.


Your Previous post also very much articulated No Mercy should be shown to BC, someone who knew how LE handles cases with regard to CPR and domestic. This Dude, womanizer, pretty boy player, seemed to blow off the norm of relationships. This little man, whose main concern was his sexual gratification with a number of willing females, had no concern for the offspring he produced, just another drop in the bucket of support. This Man was nothing more than a low life who was fortunate to acquire a JOB of STATUS. I think his days were numbered and he knew that as well.

Next available would be garbage disposal, IMO he would be highly qualified.

His current wife Kelly, she had to bring in a substantial amount of support to the home, I also think Kelly knew BC had this (problem) of keeping his pants zipped. He needed her income to support his lifestyle. IMO

[sunstar]

posting this site as a place to look for breaking news

http://www.newsnet5.com/cuttstrial/index.html

I had an open window on that site all day at work on my computer in case there was a verdict! They also have the trial video.

[Texas53]

I believe he meant to kill her, so the general public is in sync on this case.

I'm wondering how he passed the psych test to get on the force, unless they didn't give him one. :mad:

[StickyBeak]

I believe he meant to kill her, so the general public is in sync on this case.

I'm wondering how he passed the psych test to get on the force, unless they didn't give him one. :mad:


His Teary Eyed on stand confession "How can I explain this" "What will they think" "No one Will Believe me", so therfore he dragged Jessie, wrapped in a "blanket or rug" down the stairs, thumping his way out through the garage"?
Lost a pillow in the driveway,(his words, making them us as he went along. IMO I would love to have him recant, does anyone remember a lie?

[sunstar]

His Teary Eyed on stand confession "How can I explain this" "What will they think" "No one Will Believe me", so therfore he dragged Jessie, wrapped in a "blanket or rug" down the stairs, thumping his way out through the garage"?
Lost a pillow in the driveway,(his words, making them us as he went along. IMO I would love to have him recant, does anyone remember a lie?
The one thing I don't understand is initally he's supposed to have told LE he found her dying when he got to her house. No mention of hitting her, accidentally or otherwise. So why didn't this come up during the trial to prove that he's already changed his story? Or did I miss it?

[annalyzer]

Are they on verdict watch and are they sequestered?

[Texas53]

Are they on verdict watch and are they sequestered?

He changed his story and the juror are sequestered.

[Dotcomrade]

Banfeild just brought up a good point, Cutts left that baby alone, with an open bottle of bleach within his reach. What in the heck was he thinking? (should anyone believe that fairy tale he offered) Was he hoping that the baby would die also? IMO YES!

[Texas53]

IMO YES!


If he gets off the charges and goes free, I would hate to have been on that jury. There will be big problems in that community if he gets off.

Frankly, I can't see it. It will probably be: GUILTY: LWOP

[Dotcomrade]

And for that reason alone he deserves the DP, imo. I believe those who are sworn to protect us should be held to a higher standard. Couldn't agree more Sunstar. :yes2:

[Dotcomrade]

Morning Texas53, thanks for the links and updates. I ended up working yesterday and had to miss the coverage on In Session. :1222423: I would not want to be around. :71526: should he get off. Keeping the faith! I believe he will spend the rest of his life rotting in prison.

[Dotcomrade]

I believe he meant to kill her, so the general public is in sync on this case.

I'm wondering how he passed the psych test to get on the force, unless they didn't give him one. :mad: Thats exactly what I was wondering Texas53. I know we do psych evaluations. Only guarantees in life are death and taxes. :INhouseReading04:

[KittyMom]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?021208/021208_hapnow_house&Happening%20Now&House%20on%20Edge&House%20on%20Edge&US&-1&News&298&&&exp

Body language expert breaks down Bobby Cutts Jr.'s trial mannerisms

[Texas53]

Before I had to go out this morning, I was listening on CTV /TRU TV In Session and an attorney was being interviewed who handle a child custody case Cutts was involved in(probably the child in CA). The attorney said they had trouble with Cutts lying in that case on the stand(and he was caught), which apparently Cutts is good at lying. Cutts thought he could do anything he wanted and no one would catch him. Finally, he murders Jessie & her baby, and he and his attitude have been stopped. Its just so sad a woman & her unborn child had to die at his hands! If they come back with Guilty on all 3 charges, I can't wait to see his face. Then he will be really crying. He will no longer have freedom and be able to womanize again.

[KittyMom]

Before I had to go out this morning, I was listening on CTV /TRU TV In Session and an attorney was being interviewed who handle a child custody case Cutts was involved in(probably the child in CA). The attorney said they had trouble with Cutts lying in that case on the stand(and he was caught), which apparently Cutts is good at lying. Cutts thought he could do anything he wanted and no one would catch him. Finally, he murders Jessie & her baby, and he and his attitude have been stopped. Its just so sad a woman & her unborn child had to die at his hands! If they come back with Guilty on all 3 charges, I can't wait to see his face. Then he will be really crying. He will no longer have freedom and be able to womanize again.

Can't wait to see his tears when he realizes he'll be the one "wo-MAN-ized" by his cellmates. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[KittyMom]

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/02/cutts_jurors_resume_deliberati.html

Cutts jurors resume deliberations after lunch
Posted by James Ewinger February 13, 2008 13:13PM
Lunch was delivered to the jury room around noon. The panel broke for an hour and resumed deliberations at 1 p.m.

The jury in the Bobby Cutts murder trial returned to work at 8:30 this morning after failing to reach a verdict last night.

Because a death sentence is possible, the panel of six men and six women is sequestered under the supervision of court bailiffs and sheriff's deputies.

Cutts, a former Canton policeman, is accused of strangling Jessie Davis, his pregnant lover, also causing the death of the unborn daughter she was expected to deliver weeks later. She died June 14, and Cutts lied about the slaying before leading authorities to her body June 23.

He testified Monday and admitted to the slaying and deception. He said he panicked after Davis died during an argument that escalated into a physical confrontation. The jury got the case Tuesday around 3 p.m. and deliberated for three hours.



I'm thinking that if they were sure on the murder charge, they'd have reached a decision by now. This is taking too long. Someone is holding out.

[Texas53]

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/02/cutts_jurors_resume_deliberati.html



I'm thinking that if they were sure on the murder charge, they'd have reached a decision by now. This is taking too long. Someone is holding out.

They're probably debating on whether he intentionally or accidently killed her. Or whether he guilty of abusing a corpse. On the latter, I think if you drive around with her body bouncing all over the back end of the truck, bury her in a shallow grave and her body was exposed to some extreme conditions, heat then rain, its abuse. The latter is a misdemeanor in Ohio, which that is my understanding.

If someone is holding out for accidently killing her, it will lessen the murder charge. I was glued to the tv and heard the same things they did and just can't believe he didn't want the whole situation and her to disappear. Plus the POS accused the 2 yr old of spilling the bleach! Just forget the child was unsupervised, hungry, dirty diaper and could have suffered death if he had really gotten that bleach in his little system!

Then again, they have 100 pages of Jury instructions!

Lets go jurors! Guilty on all 3 charges! Either they are milking time for being put up at a hotel and meals paid for or someone is stuck on whether he killed her accidently or intentionally. IMO

[sunstar]

Couldn't agree more Sunstar. :yes2:
I'd just hate to think that Scott Peterson's sitting on DR in California and Cutts wouldn't get the same punishment in Ohio ~ for the same crime.

[sunstar]

Jury raises questions in Cutts case

POSTED: 08:48 p.m. EST, Feb 13, 2008

CANTON:Jurors in the Bobby Cutts Jr. murder trial indicated in a question tonight to the judge that they had reached a verdict on one murder charge.

Their verdict was not announced.

Deliberations resume Thursday.

So far, the Stark County Common Pleas panel has debated Cutts' guilt or innocence for about 11 hours.

The jury of six men and six women has been sequestered each night at a Canton hotel.

Jurors late tonight asked a series of questions and in one they indicated they had reached a verdict on the first count of aggravated murder relating to the death of Jessie Marie Davis. The jury also asked if there was a lesser offense to consider on a charge of aggravated burglary.

Judge Charles E. Brown Jr. referred them to their instructions. They also asked about a list of contents of Davis' purse and to listen to a tape statement from a witness.

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/15615867.html

[KittyMom]

So the question on the murder charge must concern the baby.:z0tdntknw: Well, if you turn off the method by which a person receives air, food, and shelter, doesn't that kill them? What the difference with killing a pregnant woman whose baby can't crawl out of her womb? :z0tdntknw: People are so willing to excuse any and every behavior. :girl_sad:

[KittyMom]

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=7869909

Associated Press - February 13, 2008 11:25 PM ET

CANTON, Ohio (AP) - Jurors deliberating in the case of a former police officer accused of murdering a woman pregnant with their second child asked a judge a series of questions today.

According to media Web sites, the questions indicated they may have reached a verdict on 1 of the most serious counts.

Jurors asked the judge in the case whether a juror who needs to be replaced be substituted with an alternate if they had already reached a verdict on the first count.
That count accuses Bobby Cutts Junior of the aggravated murder of Jessie Davis.

But Stark County Common Pleas Judge Charles Brown Junior told them no alternates could step in once deliberations have begun.
Jurors have spent the past day.5 in the jury room. They were sequestered in a local hotel tonight and will return tomorrow for their third day of deliberations.

[Texas53]

So the question on the murder charge must concern the baby.:z0tdntknw: Well, if you turn off the method by which a person receives air, food, and shelter, doesn't that kill them? What the difference with killing a pregnant woman whose baby can't crawl out of her womb? :z0tdntknw: People are so willing to excuse any and every behavior. :girl_sad:


Though the child had not been born, the baby was full term and a human. She would have delivered her daughter during the time she was missing had she not been murdered. So that, hopefully, is not the problem.

If they have given Cutts a guilty verdict on Jesse's murder, then convicting him of murder of the child should not be a problem. Abuse of a corpse is a misdemeanor and maybe thats what they are having a problem, or someone is tired and just wants off the case. IMO

[KittyMom]

Though the child had not been born, the baby was full term and a human. She would have delivered her daughter during the time she was missing had she not been murdered. So that, hopefully, is not the problem.

If they have given Cutts a guilty verdict on Jesse's murder, then convicting him of murder of the child should not be a problem. Abuse of a corpse is a misdemeanor and maybe thats what they are having a problem, or someone is tired and just wants off the case. IMO

Apparently, from what I've read, its the aggravated murder charge that has them in a funk. And it seems to be the charge concerning the baby.

This is why I think there needs to be an intelligence test for jurors.

[KittyMom]

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=399419&r=0&Category=9&subCategoryID=0

UPDATE: 9:39 AM, Thursday, February 14, 2008
REPOSITORY STAFF REPORT
CANTON Jurors in the Bobby L. Cutts Jr. trial have resumed deliberations this morning.

There were some interesting developments last night, and a roomful of reporters are agitated by them.

Reporters were told that jurors had gone to dinner just before 5:15 p.m. The jury never actually left and sent a question for Judge Charles E. Brown Jr. A majority of the media were gone by then.

The jury wanted to know if they signed a verdict form on one count of aggravated murder and a juror had to be replaced, would they have to redecide the charge. Brown said no substitutions are allowed.

It wasn't the only question put on the record by Brown at 6:05 p.m. A handful of others questions — and not all from Wednesday —were made public:

1. Is there a master list of the contents of Jessie's purse?

2. Can we listen to the evidence tapes?

3. Can you give us an example of when you'd find somebody guilty of murder rather than aggravated murder?

4. Is there a lesser included charge to aggravated burglary?

Brown put the questions on the record after a majority of media outlets dispatched for the night. It was the first time since the jury began deliberating that questions were put on the record in an open court.

[KittyMom]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

This station will have live coverage when something happens.

[StickyBeak]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

This station will have live coverage when something happens.

I am on pins and needles. Jurors requested to go back to hotel. Then intend to resume deliberations tonight at 6pm in court house. Last I heard verdict may be immenient. I think they are stuck on the Murder/Burgulary (aggrevated) which could bring DP. After his show of drama anything is possible. I am thinking guilty all (7) counts, but specials were counts 1,2 & 4
all related to aggravated. I am against DP, hoping Jury comes back with Life without parole. Horrendous crime, so many variables. JMO

[Texas53]

I am a for the DP. However, for Cutts, I would love to see him thrown in the general prison population and stay there for the rest of his life. When a bad cop was sent to prison in the past, it was common to try and keep them out of the general population. However with overcrowding, that rule is long gone.

JMHO

[StickyBeak]

I am a for the DP. However, for Cutts, I would love to see him thrown in the general prison population and stay there for the rest of his life. When a bad cop was sent to prison in the past, it was common to try and keep them out of the general population. However with overcrowding, that rule is long gone.

JMHO


:basic45:Hi Texas, yeah I know how ya feel, only problem it seems anyone DP is just sucking up space at taxpayer expense forever and ever. So whats the point. The appeals, costs, things sure aren't what they use to be. Us poor people pay for these scum criminals. Too bad we coulden't just Hang Em High or draw and quarter. These days good ole dna changed alot for the good and bad IMO Me, personally, love to see BC suffer like Chole, :D

[sunstar]

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=7869909

Associated Press - February 13, 2008 11:25 PM ET

I read this earlier today and can't understand something here. I thought that if a juror needed to be replaced during deliberations, the jury would start deliberations all over. I've seen a few trials where a juror had to be replaced with an alternate. Is this not the case in Ohio? :waitasec:

[Texas53]

:basic45:Hi Texas, yeah I know how ya feel, only problem it seems anyone DP is just sucking up space at taxpayer expense forever and ever. So whats the point. The appeals, costs, things sure aren't what they use to be. Us poor people pay for these scum criminals. Too bad we coulden't just Hang Em High or draw and quarter. These days good ole dna changed alot for the good and bad IMO Me, personally, love to see BC suffer like Chole, :D


I have to say if he is given the DP, when his sentence is finally carried out, I would like to be there cheering. What he did to the baby and Jesse is cold heartless murder. But locking him up, would take a real toll on the arrogant POS. IMO

If it really was an accident, there is a chance they could have saved the baby if she had gotten ER care soon enough. IMO

[sunstar]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

This station will have live coverage when something happens.
I just went back to the link and see they're still deliberating after taking a 1-1/2 hour break. Interesting! :0009:

[StickyBeak]

I have to say if he is given the DP, when his sentence is finally carried out, I would like to be there cheering. What he did to the baby and Jesse is cold heartless murder. But locking him up, would take a real toll on the arrogant POS. IMO

If it really was an accident, there is a chance they could have saved the baby if she had gotten ER care soon enough. IMO


I totally agree! I think he is a lying POS, in many ways I believe he went over there in a major huff especially after being with Stephanie, his latest flame, who just happened to have an abortion that day or about. He had mucho child support to come up with on his salary, his wife Kelly filed for divorce, house under foreclosure. This Dude was nothing more than a man about the hour, a legend in his own mind. I think his child support payments were up there, not counting Chloe. He had all the information as to how to handle a crime scene. BC, threw them in the woods and hoped the sun, rain and animal population would cover his tracks. No DNA to speak of. I agree, DP but think it is too good for him. When is it every carried out.

[KittyMom]

Where is the dang verdict??? Don't these 12 people know we're waiting here????

Seriously, can you imagine how Jessie's family is feeling?

[Texas53]

I read this earlier today and can't understand something here. I thought that if a juror needed to be replaced during deliberations, the jury would start deliberations all over. I've seen a few trials where a juror had to be replaced with an alternate. Is this not the case in Ohio? :waitasec:

State laws vary. However, usually if one main juror has to leave, then they bring in the alternate but do not start the process all over again.

I'm getting a bit concerned about how long they are staying out. Usually, the longer a jury stays out, the better the results for the Defendant. (Usually but not always). This case does not take a Rocket Scientist to make a decision. The penalty phase when considering the DP, usually takes longer and it should. IMO

[StickyBeak]

I just went back to the link and see they're still deliberating after taking a 1-1/2 hour break. Interesting! :0009:


Sunstar, this morning we read a juror questioned "what if we have a verdict on count one and a juror would like to be replaced, can an alternate step in. The Judge ruled NO. The alternates are sequested as well as the jurors. My understanding is, only in the event of death or extreme emergency woudl an alternate replace a juror. In this case, if they reached a verdict on one count, that would stand. But, then if a new juror (alternate) was brought in, deliberations would have to start all over again.
State of Ohio ruling.

Jurors requested today to go back to hotel and then come back to court house for dinner and more deliberations. It is a holiday weekend, so I think they have all counts down but 1,2 and possible 4. All dealing with aggrevated murder and burglary. They must include agg. burglary if they have aggrevated murder. Cutts gave a horrible (confession) on stand, can't see how anyone could not convict him of all counts. Just My Opinion.
You Never know.

Prayers for Jessie, Chloe, Blake and all Family, Tis a heartache

[Texas53]

Since this is a holiday weekend, we might get a verdict tomorrow. Then they can work on the penalty phase next week, after the Impact statements from the families. I just hope he doesn't get off because someone wanted to leave for the 3 day weekend. :rolleye0001:

[sunstar]

State laws vary. However, usually if one main juror has to leave, then they bring in the alternate but do not start the process all over again.

I'm getting a bit concerned about how long they are staying out. Usually, the longer a jury stays out, the better the results for the Defendant. (Usually but not always). This case does not take a Rocket Scientist to make a decision. The penalty phase when considering the DP, usually takes longer and it should. IMO

I'm thinking they're confused over aggravated murder and murder, and maybe the burglary. What I was more surprised at today was them taking a break then going back to deliberate tonight. Tomorrow also starts the President's Day weekend so I'd think they'd want to go home!

[Texas53]

If the Judge wanted to, he could have them deliberate all weekend. If not they will remain sequestered until they render a verdict. He can't afford to let anyone loose for the weekend without a verdict, because I can guarantee, someone will spill their guts about whats going on during deliberation. IMO

[sunstar]

Sunstar, this morning we read a juror questioned "what if we have a verdict on count one and a juror would like to be replaced, can an alternate step in. The Judge ruled NO. The alternates are sequested as well as the jurors. My understanding is, only in the event of death or extreme emergency woudl an alternate replace a juror. In this case, if they reached a verdict on one count, that would stand. But, then if a new juror (alternate) was brought in, deliberations would have to start all over again.
State of Ohio ruling.

Jurors requested today to go back to hotel and then come back to court house for dinner and more deliberations. It is a holiday weekend, so I think they have all counts down but 1,2 and possible 4. All dealing with aggrevated murder and burglary. They must include agg. burglary if they have aggrevated murder. Cutts gave a horrible (confession) on stand, can't see how anyone could not convict him of all counts. Just My Opinion.
You Never know.

Prayers for Jessie, Chloe, Blake and all Family, Tis a heartache
Oh, I think I understand now why the juror wouldn't be replaced ~ because they've already reached a verdict on one count, or so it seems. :doh:

[sunstar]

If the Judge wanted to, he could have them deliberate all weekend. If not they will remain sequestered until they render a verdict. He can't afford to let anyone loose for the weekend without a verdict, because I can guarantee, someone will spill their guts about whats going on during deliberation. IMO
I know, that's why it would seem they'd want to reach a verdict before the day ends tomorrow or they're stuck in the hotel with each other over the holiday weekend. Hopefully they're just confused over the charges themselves instead of having a problem juror (or two) like Spector's trial.

[StoneFox]

:happy0207: Hey Everybody!

Is everybody here waiting on the verdict? I've had the newsnet5 llive stream running on my computer. It looks like the jury is still delibrating.

[StoneFox]

I know, that's why it would seem they'd want to reach a verdict before the day ends tomorrow or they're stuck in the hotel with each other over the holiday weekend. Hopefully they're just confused over the charges themselves instead of having a problem juror (or two) like Spector's trial.

Oh goodness, let's pray they don't have problem jurors. Do we know if they had any engineers on the jury? :0doh:

Hiya sunstar :0012:

[sunstar]

Oh goodness, let's pray they don't have problem jurors. Do we know if they had any engineers on the jury? :0doh:

Hiya sunstar :0012:
I was thinking the same thing Katy! :0012: Please no engineers!!

[Texas53]

For sure tomorrow a verdict. Or sequestered all the holiday weekend. IMO

[KittyMom]

:happy0207: Hey Everybody!

Is everybody here waiting on the verdict? I've had the newsnet5 llive stream running on my computer. It looks like the jury is still delibrating.

I think we all keep popping by just to check. I really thought this would be finished by now.

[Texas53]

I think we all keep popping by just to check. I really thought this would be finished by now.


So did all of us!

[KittyMom]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/596975/bobby_cutts_trial_if_i_were_a_juror.html

Interesting read.

[sunstar]

I think we all keep popping by just to check. I really thought this would be finished by now.
The trial seemed so short for the length of these deliberations. Thankfully the judge didn't allow the lesser charges (manslaughter)!!

[StoneFox]

The trial seemed so short for the length of these deliberations. Thankfully the judge didn't allow the lesser charges (manslaughter)!!

Do you guys think the jury is having trouble with the aggravated murder charge?

[sunstar]

Do you guys think the jury is having trouble with the aggravated murder charge?

I think so. From what I've read today it seems by their questions that's what the problem is. :0009:

[StoneFox]

I was reading on the canton reps blog page. I think the reporters are blogging from inside the court room. Ben Duer is his name. He is making replies to questions in the comment section.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=575

[StoneFox]

I think so. From what I've read today it seems by their questions that's what the problem is. :0009:

Oh me, and they don't have another option on the table if they can't agree on that charge, do they? Wasn't this an all or nothing charge?

[Texas53]

Oh me, and they don't have another option on the table if they can't agree on that charge, do they? Wasn't this an all or nothing charge?


The thing I'm worried about is a mis-trial. If they cannot agree on a verdict, this could happen.

[sunstar]

Oh me, and they don't have another option on the table if they can't agree on that charge, do they? Wasn't this an all or nothing charge?
They've got aggravated murder and murder. Plus burglary, child endangerment.

[StoneFox]

The thing I'm worried about is a mis-trial. If they cannot agree on a verdict, this could happen.

Hiya Texas :happy0207:

Good to post with you on this forum.

Isn't that the oddest thing. Here is a guy who admitted he killed Jessie and Chloe, and there is an issue about giving him what he deserves. It seems like a no-brainer to me.

IMO

[KittyMom]

I was reading on the canton reps blog page. I think the reporters are blogging from inside the court room. Ben Duer is his name. He is making replies to questions in the comment section.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=575

My laptop is acting goofy. I tried to register to post a question and got booted off the net.
Can someone ask if the juror will be sequestered over the weekend should they not reach a verdict by tomorrow night?

[KittyMom]

Hiya Texas :happy0207:

Good to post with you on this forum.

Isn't that the oddest thing. Here is a guy who admitted he killed Jessie and Chloe, and there is an issue about giving him what he deserves. It seems like a no-brainer to me.

IMO

Sadly, our society isn't about justice anymore, its about making excuses for those who commit crimes even if it means blaming the victims. imo

[StoneFox]

They've got aggravated murder and murder. Plus burglary, child endangerment.

Hmmm...so if they can't agree on aggravated murder, but agree on all other counts, it still ends in a mistrial?

What time is it there now, 9:30?

Maybe they think they are close and that is why they keep going.

[StoneFox]

My laptop is acting goofy. I tried to register to post a question and got booted off the net.
Can someone ask if the juror will be sequestered over the weekend should they not reach a verdict by tomorrow night?

I'll try KittyMom.

Give me a sec.

[KittyMom]

I'll try KittyMom.

Give me a sec.

Thank you. I'm not sure it its my laptop or dsl.

[sunstar]

Hmmm...so if they can't agree on aggravated murder, but agree on all other counts, it still ends in a mistrial?

What time is it there now, 9:30?

Maybe they think they are close and that is why they keep going.
I guess it's possible he could be convicted of child endangerment (Blake) and have to be retried for murder. I sure hope not though! :) Yes, it's 9:30pm.

[StoneFox]

Okay, posted the question for you KittyMom.

[sunstar]

The jury is deliberating tonight.

Marc Warner, court administrator, said the jury has not reached verdict, but jurors did take a quick break before they resumed deliberations. He anticipates the judge will allow the jury to keep going within reason. “If they do reach a verdict tonight, it will be read in open court tonight,” he told reporters.
About 36 members of the media are here. Throughout the day, Cutts’ supporters and Davis’ family members have been here, too. Davis’ mother, Patricia Porter, and Davis’ sisters have spent the majority of the deliberations in a separate room in the courthouse. Cutts’ supporters and family members wait in another section of the second-floor hallway where the trial’s courtroom and the media room are.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=576

[StoneFox]

I guess it's possible he could be convicted of child endangerment (Blake) and have to be retried for murder. I sure hope not though! :) Yes, it's 9:30pm.

I hope not too. Looks like the jury is trying hard to make the right decision.

[KittyMom]

Okay, posted the question for you KittyMom.

Thanks! :happy0207:

[sunstar]

I hope not too. Looks like the jury is trying hard to make the right decision.

At least they're diligent! They could be in bed sleeping instead of deliberating. I just heard Greta's preview and apparently she has some news on Joran. :)

[StoneFox]

The jury is deliberating tonight.

Marc Warner, court administrator, said the jury has not reached verdict, but jurors did take a quick break before they resumed deliberations. He anticipates the judge will allow the jury to keep going within reason. “If they do reach a verdict tonight, it will be read in open court tonight,” he told reporters.
About 36 members of the media are here. Throughout the day, Cutts’ supporters and Davis’ family members have been here, too. Davis’ mother, Patricia Porter, and Davis’ sisters have spent the majority of the deliberations in a separate room in the courthouse. Cutts’ supporters and family members wait in another section of the second-floor hallway where the trial’s courtroom and the media room are.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=576

HeeHee..thank you sunstar. I was trying to copy it to post here and my keyboard started messing up.

So either this is typical of this court room to go long hours, or they believe a verdict is close.

[StoneFox]

Thanks! :happy0207:

You're welcome!

No answer yet. Maybe the guy is grabbing some more coffee. :grin:

[KittyMom]

o/t...for anyone interested...I posted the pdf of the search of Gary Hilton's van (Meredith Emerson's thread). WOW!

[sunstar]

HeeHee..thank you sunstar. I was trying to copy it to post here and my keyboard started messing up.

So either this is typical of this court room to go long hours, or they believe a verdict is close.
I'm really lazy ~ I c/p it from a post at In Session! :D There's another post over there from an Akron news source that says they judge will probably stop them at 11pm if they haven't reached a verdict.

[StoneFox]

I was sitting here thinking. The jurors sent a note to the judge about possibly replacing one of th jurors with an alternate. Judge said no.

I betcha one of those jurors has plans that they can't change. In order to accomodate this juror, maybe the other jurors are willing to go the long hours to reach a verdict. So maybe it will be tonight.

Now that leaves me wondering, if one of the jurors had a death in the family or something really serious, what would happen, since judge said no alternates?

[StoneFox]

I'm really lazy ~ I c/p it from a post at In Session! :D There's another post over there from an Akron news source that says they judge will probably stop them at 11pm if they haven't reached a verdict.

:girl_haha: I was over there reading earlier. I really like it over here.



so that would be another hour if he stops them at 11.

[StoneFox]

o/t...for anyone interested...I posted the pdf of the search of Gary Hilton's van (Meredith Emerson's thread). WOW!

Thank you kitty :0012:

I'll go take a look while we wait.

[sunstar]

I was sitting here thinking. The jurors sent a note to the judge about possibly replacing one of th jurors with an alternate. Judge said no.

I betcha one of those jurors has plans that they can't change. In order to accomodate this juror, maybe the other jurors are willing to go the long hours to reach a verdict. So maybe it will be tonight.

Now that leaves me wondering, if one of the jurors had a death in the family or something really serious, what would happen, since judge said no alternates?
If it was something serious like that, they'd have to replace the juror with an alternate. I think they all want to be home this weekend so they're using the available time tonight so they can get out of there tomorrow.

[sunstar]

:girl_haha: I was over there reading earlier. I really like it over here.

so that would be another hour if he stops them at 11.
I'm posting a little there, but mainly reading and stealing the links to new information! :)

[sunstar]

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=16287&section=news&subsection=localnews&%20title=AUDIO_Day_9_Cutts_Trial_Verdict_Still_Und eci<br%20/>

9:50 pm: Jurors are going back to a hotel for the night without coming to a decision on Cutts' fate. Deliberations will pick up Friday morning at 8:30 and last until the wee hours of the evening if need be.

[StoneFox]

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=16287&section=news&subsection=localnews&%20title=AUDIO_Day_9_Cutts_Trial_Verdict_Still_Und eci<br%20/>

9:50 pm: Jurors are going back to a hotel for the night without coming to a decision on Cutts' fate. Deliberations will pick up Friday morning at 8:30 and last until the wee hours of the evening if need be.

Well drat!! Tune in tomorrow. The jurors must be exhausted.

[sunstar]

Well drat!! Tune in tomorrow. The jurors must be exhausted.
And me too! I'm going to watch Greta, then off to bed! :happy0207:

[StoneFox]

And me too! I'm going to watch Greta, then off to bed! :happy0207:

Me too. She just said breaking news in Natalie's case. Hope she isn't pulling our leg.

Have a good night sunstar:0012:

[sunstar]

Me too. She just said breaking news in Natalie's case. Hope she isn't pulling our leg.

Have a good night sunstar:0012:
You too Katy! I'm still here for a few more minutes waiting for the update on Joran and hoping it'll be the right news! :happy0207:

[StoneFox]

You too Katy! I'm still here for a few more minutes waiting for the update on Joran and hoping it'll be the right news! :happy0207:

3 judge panel decided if he will be reassrested...tap...tap..tap..through the commercial.

[KittyMom]

:mornincoffee:

It's Friday. I'm ready for a verdict.nn:eyebrow1qb:

[KittyMom]

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5784243&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Last Edited: Friday, 15 Feb 2008, 7:21 AM EST
Created: Friday, 15 Feb 2008, 7:17 AM EST

CANTON, Ohio (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a former police officer charged with killing his pregnant lover and their unborn child deliberated overtime but were unable to reach a verdict after three days of trying.