Evening thread February 12th, 08

[lovelaw]

Hop On!~

[JoolzRoolz]

hopped!

[andersson33]

Hop On!~

Thanks!

I've got to figure out how to start a thread.

But thanks for this one....

[KellBell]

***jump***

[JoolzRoolz]

Thanks!

I've got to figure out how to start a thread.

But thanks for this one....

Go to the main thread page (State of WI vs Mark D. Jensen in this case) and click on Start Thread near the top of the page.

[wi_twin_mom]

I'm here!!

[KellBell]

BTW I just saw Vintage Rose started a thread for Jambois questions or comments. I like it!!

[Cat]

Thanks!

I've got to figure out how to start a thread.

But thanks for this one....


I told you how on last thread, andersson. All you do is go to the index page for Jensen forum, and click Start Thread (it's in teal) at the top of the page on the left. EASY.

[KellBell]

But he took information that he didn't know if it was credible or not and made his decision?????

[lovelaw]

I'll bet he is glad to be done!!~

[lovelaw]

BTW I just saw Vintage Rose started a thread for Jambois questions or comments. I like it!!



GOOD IDEA!~ :zm10:

[wi_twin_mom]

I just heard Jambois ask about Klug, has Dr. Quack said anything about his testimony today?

[Cat]

Well, judge sound nice and jolly now. Guess he can't wait to get home.

[JoolzRoolz]

But he took information that he didn't know if it was credible or not and made his decision?????

I know. This guy is unreal.

[Xmygrits]

Oh thank god the jerk is done!

[KellBell]

I love how the doc answers Albee's questions so nicely.

[lovelaw]

Thanks!

I've got to figure out how to start a thread.

But thanks for this one....


I took a risk....and it worked!!~ :basic44:

[spunkylubbock]

I made it!!!!!!

[lovelaw]

Oh thank god the jerk is done!

:67302:

[lovelaw]

I love how the doc answers Albee's questions so nicely.

Quite an amazing change of demeanor!~

[KellBell]

I just heard Jambois ask about Klug, has Dr. Quack said anything about his testimony today?

Oh yeah, at one point he claimed he didn't know who Klug was, then later he started yelling that it was absurd that the prosecution is believing someone who came 9 years after the fact... So basically he knew all about Klug all along. IMO he knows this case inside and out. He is a piece of work.

[texaslinda]

Who is this guy?

[StoneFox]

BTW I just saw Vintage Rose started a thread for Jambois questions or comments. I like it!!

:cool:

[kindee]

'allow!

[JoolzRoolz]

I just heard Jambois ask about Klug, has Dr. Quack said anything about his testimony today?

Well Jambois asked him if he knew who Ed Klug was and the doc said no and Jambois asked again in an incredulous tone and he said no. Then I think later the doc contradicted himself by admitting he had seen something of Ed Klug's statements? And then started to say something about being skeptical of statements made and evidence produced months before a trial. As to what he said or commented about Klug's statements I don't know - if asked he probably didn't straight up answer.

[Alibar]

MJ didn't want to pay the doc for another day of nothing.

[Cat]

Who is this man?

[StoneFox]

Who is this guy?

Albee's partner :z0tdntknw:

[KellBell]

So the doctor lied about how much he was paid. SHOCKER!!!

[Cat]

Albee's partner :z0tdntknw:

Thank you!

[andersson33]

Go to the main thread page (State of WI vs Mark D. Jensen in this case) and click on Start Thread near the top of the page.

You're kidding!

I can probably handle that.

[RayStar]

Bye Bye MJ

[lovelaw]

Oh yeah, at one point he claimed he didn't know who Klug was, then later he started yelling that it was absurd that the prosecution is believing someone who came 9 years after the fact... So basically he knew all about Klug all along. IMO he knows this case inside and out. He is a piece of work.

I agree!! He knows a LOT more than he is willing to admit....even when ASKED, and ASKED!~

[bambam]

tell me this please, did i get this right, or just dream it.... that jambois said "hypothetically dr, if you knew that MJ had been researching ways to kill his wife on the computer, would it influence your opinion?" (paraphrased slightly) and he answered, "of course that would influence my opinion" ?? did they say that???

[KellBell]

wooohooo another lie from the defense....They are racking them up like a 40 car pile up!

[KellBell]

tell me this please, did i get this right, or just dream it.... that jambois said "hypothetically dr, if you knew that MJ had been researching ways to kill his wife on the computer, would it influence your opinion?" (paraphrased slightly) and he answered, "of course that would influence my opinion" ?? did they say that???


He said if he had credible evidence yes but there is no credible evidence in his opinion. that was my take.

[wi_twin_mom]

Well Jambois asked him if he knew who Ed Klug was and the doc said no and Jambois asked again in an incredulous tone and he said no. Then I think later the doc contradicted himself by admitting he had seen something of Ed Klug's statements? And then started to say something about being skeptical of statements made and evidence produced months before a trial. As to what he said or commented about Klug's statements I don't know - if asked he probably didn't straight up answer.

It just seamed strange that one witness would comment on another. For all you expert trial watchers, is this normal?

[lovelaw]

Oooooo...Dr. Rumack has to "get on a plane."!~

[JoolzRoolz]

Who is Dr. Rumack?

[Kara]

The judge wants a defense witness to get on a plane and get back into court because he testified to a completely different fee than invoices show? Dr. Rumack!

[bambam]

He said if he had credible evidence yes but there is no credible evidence in his opinion. that was my take.

ok thanks... i was trippin on that!

[lovelaw]

You're kidding!

I can probably handle that.


YOU CAN! YOU CAN!~ I KNOW IT!~

[texaslinda]

The doctor LIED! The judge is pizzed!

[dojewo]

Oooooo...Dr. Rumack has to "get on a plane."!~
Woo Hoo, this is good stuff

[mitch]

rut roh. dr rumack.

get on a plane.

court's order.

judge is pissed.

[JoolzRoolz]

tell me this please, did i get this right, or just dream it.... that jambois said "hypothetically dr, if you knew that MJ had been researching ways to kill his wife on the computer, would it influence your opinion?" (paraphrased slightly) and he answered, "of course that would influence my opinion" ?? did they say that???

He did but he qualified it with "if I knew there was conclusive evidence that Mark had done that research".

[bambam]

dammit judgey poo is PIZZED!

[spunkylubbock]

Go get him judge! Finally, he's found a backbone!

[Alibar]

Was it said what the amount of the invoice is regarding Rumack?

[KellBell]

Dr. Rumack LIED and JUDGE IS PISSED!!!

He was paid 16,750 so far and he said he was only paid 7,100 on the witness stand.

Judge said call Dr. Rumack and tell him to get on a plane and get back here now!

[KellBell]

Who is Dr. Rumack?


Albee's forensic pathologist.

[Sherbie]

Oh...looks like Rumack is going to be impeached on the amount he says he's been/being paid for his services to the defense in this case. Judge extremely ADAMANT that Rumack is to be back on the stand, period. An ORDER, not a request, says the judge. Very, very short with Albee now. He is PISSED. Maybe this is the Judge S "reputation" that supposedly preceded him into this trial. I love it! ;)

[sciencegirl]

OMG!!! I had to get up and post on this one. I love this Judge. How great is this???

[texaslinda]

Woo Hoo, this is good stuff

It doesn't get any better than this!!!!:zm10:

[JoolzRoolz]

Nevermind - you guys answered it. The judge was so excited and mad it got me all excited lol...

Wow is he pissed.

[lovelaw]

The judge wants a defense witness to get on a plane and get back into court because he testified to a completely different fee than invoices show? Dr. Rumack!

YEP! YEP!~

[sciencegirl]

Dr. Rumack LIED and JUDGE IS PISSED!!!

He was paid 16,750 so far and he said he was only paid 7,100 on the witness stand.

Judge said call Dr. Rumack and tell him to get on a plane and get back here now!

How did Jambois find out he was lying? Who spilled the beans?

[KellBell]

I wish JS had that kind of back bone all the time.

[bigkitty]

Thanks Joolz for reposting your earlier post. I didn't quote it cause I read somewhere they wanted us to try not to repost long quotes. Sounds like I missed alot today. Hopefully, the person that's been posting the video of testimony on u-tube will put up some of today's testimony.

I did catch the so-called doctor say he wouldn't consider any of the info from the prosecutions side. To me, he sounded like he would just say what the defense wanted, and refused to even consider the pros. side. To me, that makes him lose all credibility. If I were a juror, I wouldn't believe anything he said.

jmo, imo, etc.

[RayStar]

dammit judgey poo is PIZZED!

SUPER PO'D

MA AND PA ALBEE to YOU'RE so FIRED!!! lol loL

[wi_twin_mom]

Wow!!! Fireworks in the courtroom!!!!

[KellBell]

OMG!!! I had to get up and post on this one. I love this Judge. How great is this???


I am dancing in my chair!!

[andersson33]

Oooooo...Dr. Rumack has to "get on a plane."!~

:shock: Geeze, Shroeder is as mad as I've ever seen him. What's this about?
Lying about $$??

[sciencegirl]

I am dancing in my chair!!

How and who found out that the doctor was lying about his fee.

[lovelaw]

Dr. Rumack LIED and JUDGE IS PISSED!!!

He was paid 16,750 so far and he said he was only paid 7,100 on the witness stand.

Judge said call Dr. Rumack and tell him to get on a plane and get back here now!

I'm skeered for him!!~

:022:<<<<Rumack pulling a "LEE"!~

[Kara]

Oh...looks like Rumack is going to be impeached on the amount he says he's been/being paid for his services to the defense in this case. Judge extremely ADAMANT that Rumack is to be back on the stand, period. An ORDER, not a request, says the judge. Very, very short with Albee now. He is PISSED. Maybe this is the Judge S "reputation" that supposedly preceded him into this trial. I love it! ;)
If you'll lie about how much you've been paid, what else will you lie about???

[SummerMadness]

How did Jambois find out he was lying? Who spilled the beans?

Who paid him initially and who is paying to fly him in now?

[KellBell]

How did Jambois find out he was lying? Who spilled the beans?


They got copies of the checks from the bank and copies of the invoices.

[wi_twin_mom]

Thanks Joolz for reposting your earlier post. I didn't quote it cause I read somewhere they wanted us to try not to repost long quotes. Sounds like I missed alot today. Hopefully, the person that's been posting the video of testimony on u-tube will put up some of today's testimony.

I did catch the so-called doctor say he wouldn't consider any of the info from the prosecutions side. To me, he sounded like he would just say what the defense wanted, and refused to even consider the pros. side. To me, that makes him lose all credibility. If I were a juror, I wouldn't believe anything he said.

jmo, imo, etc.

I wonder how much he is getting paid for his testimony???????????

[Cat]

I'm skeered for him!!~

:022:<<<<Rumack pulling a "LEE"!~

And he probably doesn't have relatives in China. :s1gyahoo:

[Alibar]

tell me this please, did i get this right, or just

<snip>

and he answered, "of course that would influence my opinion" ?? did they say that???


The doc refused to answer until it was clearly stated it was only a hypothetical with no connection to the truth... He made his usual remarks about the prosecution.

[sciencegirl]

I thought the poor judge was going to have a stroke there for a minute.:love0085:

Course, Albee could cause anyone to have a stroke.

Well; I'm going back horizontal. You all have fun.

[RayStar]

How did Jambois find out he was lying? Who spilled the beans?

Don't know. I always say God don't like UGLY. The mayor of Detroit will also soon find this out. LOL LOL

[Xmygrits]

OMG!!! I had to get up and post on this one. I love this Judge. How great is this???LOL!!! Its about damn time something made my day today and this did it! The defense team is their own worst enemy! :basic45:

[texaslinda]

Is it over or did WISN just poop out?

[lovelaw]

:shock: Geeze, Shroeder is as mad as I've ever seen him. What's this about?
Lying about $$??

YES!! Seems the good Dr. doctored his testimony about how much he was paid!~ I remember how slippery he got when asked that question. Hmmmm...he couldn't seem to remember!~

[StoneFox]

The judge wants a defense witness to get on a plane and get back into court because he testified to a completely different fee than invoices show? Dr. Rumack!

:girl_haha::s1gyahoo::faintTHUD:

Way to go Albee and Rumack!!

[lovelaw]

Is it over or did WISN just poop out?

Done for the day!~ WHEW!~

[JoolzRoolz]

Thanks Joolz for reposting your earlier post. I didn't quote it cause I read somewhere they wanted us to try not to repost long quotes. Sounds like I missed alot today. Hopefully, the person that's been posting the video of testimony on u-tube will put up some of today's testimony.

I did catch the so-called doctor say he wouldn't consider any of the info from the prosecutions side. To me, he sounded like he would just say what the defense wanted, and refused to even consider the pros. side. To me, that makes him lose all credibility. If I were a juror, I wouldn't believe anything he said.

jmo, imo, etc.

You are right about not quoting long quotes. I just wanted to try and answer your question and it was a few pages back.

Anyway, I agree. I think the doc sunk his teeth into the suicide conclusion and won't be persuaded otherwise. Plus there's the whole being paid by the defense thing.

[Cat]

Is it over or did WISN just poop out?

It's over for today, Linda.

[sciencegirl]

They got copies of the checks from the bank and copies of the invoices.

LIFE IS GOOD

See ya all tomorrow.

[bambam]

man oh man!!! did we end with a BANG today or WHAT???!! LOL

[lovelaw]

Oh...looks like Rumack is going to be impeached on the amount he says he's been/being paid for his services to the defense in this case. Judge extremely ADAMANT that Rumack is to be back on the stand, period. An ORDER, not a request, says the judge. Very, very short with Albee now. He is PISSED. Maybe this is the Judge S "reputation" that supposedly preceded him into this trial. I love it! ;)

He has shown his might as of late!!~ I'm LOVIN' it!~:zm10: GO JUDGE!~

[Orchid Corsage]

But he took information that he didn't know if it was credible or not and made his decision?????

LOL KellBell, this must be in response to the doc's entire testimony, and I agree! :zm10: and to call all the people who called today, when I ignored them! Bad me!

Off for dinner, see ya all later!

This was an exhausting day with this doc s!
o

[JoolzRoolz]

Done for the day!~ WHEW!~

I know - I'm exhausted! And I have a long night ahead of me on another board I moderate related to BB9 which starts tonight LOL.

See y'all tomorrow! Thanks for the great comments and posts today! Those stuck in the ice, be safe!

:0012:

[Xmygrits]

It's over for today, Linda.

And on this happy note I'm gonna sign off and fix me sum suppa!

Nite ya'll!:)

[texaslinda]

It's over for today, Linda.

I'm really sick, I could watch this 24 hours/day! Just bring in food occasionally...

Thanks! See you tomorrow!:happy0207:

[KellBell]

I wonder how much he is getting paid for his testimony???????????

Well, Dr. Spiro testified today that he capped his fee at 5,000. So maybe the pros should subpena those records and see if he is lying just like Dr. Rumack just got caught doing. There is so much lying on the stand it is insane.

[lovelaw]

man oh man!!! did we end with a BANG today or WHAT???!! LOL




http://bestsmileys.com/fireworks/2.gif

WE DID!~

[Alibar]

Oh...looks like Rumack is going to be impeached on the amount he says he's been/being paid for his services to the defense in this case. Judge extremely ADAMANT that Rumack is to be back on the stand, period. An ORDER, not a request, says the judge. Very, very short with Albee now. He is PISSED. Maybe this is the Judge S "reputation" that supposedly preceded him into this trial. I love it! ;)


I love it, too! Only wish the judge didn't stammer around most of the time, but, of course, he can't help it. He can get it said when angry!

[StoneFox]

I'm skeered for him!!~

:022:<<<<Rumack pulling a "LEE"!~

:girl_haha: I hope he hasn't already gone to China. Think how much THAT will cost the defense.

Finally we are seeing Bruce the Terrible!!

[KellBell]

And on this happy note I'm gonna sign off and fix me sum suppa!

Nite ya'll!:)

I think I'm gonna make Nachos in honor of Bam!!

[SummerMadness]

I'm really sick, I could watch this 24 hours/day! Just bring in food occasionally...

Thanks! See you tomorrow!:happy0207:


A true addict....just like me:)
Good night all.

[lovelaw]

And he probably doesn't have relatives in China. :s1gyahoo:




:zm10:

[andersson33]

I wonder how much he is getting paid for his testimony???????????

He charges $360 and hour for research pre-trial and $420 an hour during the trial.

He's got 50 hours of research in already, according to him. And who knows how much for the trial, airfare, hotel, transportation.

DH and I did the math and we figured he's at around $25,000 after today.

:shock:

50 hours of research. I just don't think so, doc.

[lovelaw]

If you'll lie about how much you've been paid, what else will you lie about???

THAT is the question!~

[bigkitty]

You are right about not quoting long quotes. I just wanted to try and answer your question and it was a few pages back.

Anyway, I agree. I think the doc sunk his teeth into the suicide conclusion and won't be persuaded otherwise. Plus there's the whole being paid by the defense thing.

I hope you didn't think I meant that you shouldn't have reposted. It was really, really helpful. I just meant that I didn't want to repost it a third time.

Just want to thank all the people who pitch in and fill in the gaps when one of us needs to step away. This is an unbelieveable trial.

I think if Rumack has to go back on the stand in front of the jury its curtains for anyone believing anything he might of said. This defense crew is really a bunch of creeps -- sorry, I can't think of a better description than that. I just hope the jury can see what's really going on here.

jmo, imo etc.

[Sherbie]

If you'll lie about how much you've been paid, what else will you lie about???

Amen and bingo, sister! There is nothing to hide when it comes to payment of expert fees -- experts can charge whatever the client is willing to pay. No reason in the world to be dishonest about that. And if someone is willing to lie over something in which there's really no stake in lying, not much of a leap to think they'd be capable of being dishonest where there IS a stake, such as in an expert's reputation for delivering the goods for his clients.

Not looking good for ol' Marky Mark and his "fun bunch" is it? :girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

How did Jambois find out he was lying? Who spilled the beans?

I haven't read All the way through yet. I HOPE someone answered you. I am not sure how it came to be known. I just came running back in when I heard the commotion!~

[Cat]

For the dear doctor: http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s34/smilies-11096.png

[Baranis]

Hard to post at this time, my jaw is on the floor.
If Rumack lied about his invoices then I'll would think that Dr.Spirrrrrro is squirming for his account of payment.

[andersson33]

Well, Dr. Spiro testified today that he capped his fee at 5,000. So maybe the pros should subpena those records and see if he is lying just like Dr. Rumack just got caught doing. There is so much lying on the stand it is insane.

I heard that part about capping, but I do not believe one word of it.

I'd love to see his invoices.

The Jensen Clan is really burning up their money -- for nothing.

[wi_twin_mom]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

[lovelaw]

LIFE IS GOOD

See ya all tomorrow.


:zm10: Take care!~

[jcc]

Dr. Rumack LIED and JUDGE IS PISSED!!!

He was paid 16,750 so far and he said he was only paid 7,100 on the witness stand.

Judge said call Dr. Rumack and tell him to get on a plane and get back here now!

And I was over ranting on the afternoon thread, in disbelief you all up and left and missed it...lol!

[Cat]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

Enjoy! and don't lose too much on the slots.

[JoolzRoolz]

Just had a funny thought - I can imagine Jambois diary entry tonight:

Dear Diary,

Today was the Best Day Ever!

-----

Especially after how it ended. Jambois must have felt Christmas came early :) .

[lovelaw]

I know - I'm exhausted! And I have a long night ahead of me on another board I moderate related to BB9 which starts tonight LOL.

See y'all tomorrow! Thanks for the great comments and posts today! Those stuck in the ice, be safe!

:0012:

It was a dandy!! I was only here for HALF!!~

:0012:

[lovelaw]

And on this happy note I'm gonna sign off and fix me sum suppa!

Nite ya'll!:)



ME TOO!!~ HAVE A GREAT NIGHT ALL!~:0012:

[StoneFox]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

Have fun wtm!

That's what I do when I travel with my DH, I take the laptop.

[bigkitty]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

Have a great time in Vegas!:zm10: Sneaking a peak isn't so bad!:22wink: I'm sure DH won't mind. Happy wife, happy life you know!:D

jmo, imo, etc.

[wi_twin_mom]

He charges $360 and hour for research pre-trial and $420 an hour during the trial.

He's got 50 hours of research in already, according to him. And who knows how much for the trial, airfare, hotel, transportation.

DH and I did the math and we figured he's at around $25,000 after today.

:shock:

50 hours of research. I just don't think so, doc.

He wasn't doing enough research. He is only coming up with what Albee wants him to think! Follow the $$$$$$$, it leads to the truth!

[lovelaw]

For the dear doctor: http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s34/smilies-11096.png


Glad I saw this before I headed out!~ :67302:

BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!~:0012:

[andersson33]

For the dear doctor: http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s34/smilies-11096.png

LOL.

Why lie?
Why did he?
Is his fee so astronomical?

Lyin' gets you no.where.:lex_10:

[jcc]

Just had a funny thought - I can imagine Jambois diary entry tonight:

Dear Diary,

Today was the Best Day Ever!

-----

Especially after how it ended. Jambois must have felt Christmas came early :) .

:zm10:

[lovelaw]

:girl_haha: I hope he hasn't already gone to China. Think how much THAT will cost the defense.

Finally we are seeing Bruce the Terrible!!



Finally!!~ HOORAY!~:0012:

[bigkitty]

Goodnight everybody!:0012:

See you guys in the morning, bright-eyed and bushy tailed you know!:D

jmo, imo, etc.

[Cat]

LOL.

Why lie?
Why did he?
Is his fee so astronomical?

Lyin' gets you no.where.:lex_10:

Lovelaw, andersson, I couldn't resist. :happy0207:

Night all.

[lovelaw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wi_twin_mom
I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!! What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!


HAVE FUN TWIN MOM

[Sherbie]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

Awwww...well you go on that trip without a second thought for any of this trial nonsense. Put it completely out of your mind.

You will have a far more enjoyable and memorable time with your hubby! I'm excited for you...sounds romantic and fun! Have a great and safe trip! :1222423:

[lovelaw]

I can't believe I'm going to miss the rest of this weeks trial!!!!:( What a time to leave for Vegas. Wait a minute, I'm leaving the snow! Yeah!! My dh and I haven't been on a trip alone in 16 years!! About time! Keep good notes, see you Monday! ( I'm trying to convince him to take his laptop so I can peek at the trial!) Oh no, I'm going through withdrawal!!!!!

HAVE FUN!!~

You'll forget about this the moment you hit the strip!!~:zm10:

[vintage_rose]

I started a new thread for people who have comments/questions/suggestions for Mr. Jambois.
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2372

[jcc]

Have a nice trip with your hubby, wi_twin-mom!


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Have fun watching~

http://th259.photobucket.com/albums/hh298/fermat23/th_penn-teller.jpg

[lyndawitha"y]

But he took information that he didn't know if it was credible or not and made his decision?????

This is not the first time we've heard expert testimony given only taking certain points into account..then on cross they simply say, it's irrelevant..or it's of no consequence..and hope the jury byes it..so for this guy..unfortunately he has been shown up for his buas and that he based his final opinion on faulty information and did not consider ather input..SO guess what..this Forensic Psychiatrist..just blew his credibility.

As for Dr. Rusn.....he's also blown his credibilty..as he was noteably hedging..and now he will be proven to be evasive?/..Albee..U R in trouble!

:waitasec::22wink::duh:

[wi_twin_mom]

Thanks everyone!! I know we'll have fun. We are going to see Penn & Teller, not that much into gambling, just going to see the sights!!! See ya Monday!!!! :0012:

[jcc]

The defense isn't looking too good.

I think today's guy must have looked very bad. What sort of expert bases an opinion on evidence that can't be verified (the whole string of baloney presented by the Jensen family), and doesn't even consider the possibility of homicide when forming an opinion as to whether Julie commited suicide or not. To not even consider for a moment Julie's behaviours and state of mind in her last few days within the framework of a possible homicide paints him to be what he was. A well paid witness. How can you form an opinion without weighing both sides?

And to top that off, tomorrow morning, with information that Dr. Rumack lied about his payment, by material proportion, is not going to look good either. Sure hope MJ doesn't win an appeal on ineffective counsel, because at this point... Mr. Albee should have his tail between his legs. He is the boss of the defense, isn't he?

I wonder how defense supporters will put a happy face on this? I'm sure they will find a way :shock:

[StoneFox]

I started a new thread for people who have comments/questions/suggestions for Mr. Jambois.
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2372

Thank you vintage_rose :0012:

[lyndawitha"y]

The defense isn't looking too good.

I think today's guy must have looked very bad. What sort of expert bases an opinion on evidence that can't be verified (the whole string of baloney presented by the Jensen family), and doesn't even consider the possibility of homicide when forming an opinion as to whether Julie commited suicide or not. To not even consider for a moment Julie's behaviours and state of mind in her last few days within the framework of a possible homicide paints him to be what he was. A well paid witness. How can you form an opinion without weighing both sides?

And to top that off, tomorrow morning, with information that Dr. Rumack lied about his payment, by material proportion, is not going to look good either. Sure hope MJ doesn't win an appeal on ineffective counsel, because at this point... Mr. Albee should have his tail between his legs. He is the boss of the defense, isn't he?

I wonder how defense supporters will put a happy face on this? I'm sure they will find a way :shock:

You simply would not believe THEIR SPINN..kinda reminds of "O'Reilly Factor"

No spin in the no spin zone..well, I beg to differ on this one!..not to mention on O'Reilly's show:waitasec:

It really is hard for me not to jab at them..but contain myself..you'd be proud of me:nonono::nocomment:

[kellabeck]

Hi hi!!

Just got in a while ago with popsicle toes and now I am trying to figure out what I missed! Looks like a LOT!!

Is Doctor Haughty still on cross as the day ended??

[jcc]

I'm now having a mental block on whether Jambois finished or not.... because the big news is that Dr. Rumack actually got paid $16,750 SO FAR, and not the measly $7000 he said he'd recieved.

Just was red hot mad that he lied about a material fact. Told Albee to get him on a plane~ back out to answer to that!

And... so much for Dr. Rumack's comment about being able to buy his grand kids a few toys with these monies... unless he buys them new cars!

I remember Jambois saying he is NOT done with this witness (Spiros). But, I can't remember if that was at the very end of the day or sometime earlier.

[mitch]

Hi hi!!

Just got in a while ago with popsicle toes and now I am trying to figure out what I missed! Looks like a LOT!!

Is Doctor Haughty still on cross as the day ended??

no he is finished.

[gramvof14]

OMG!!! I had to get up and post on this one. I love this Judge. How great is this???
Finally we saw the Judge get really pizzed you rock Judge. Big doings in court tomorrow.:girl_haha::zm10:

[jcc]

Thanks... mental block cleared. That Dr. Rumack stuff just pushed everything else out of my brain...lol I honestly couldn't remember if he'd finished with today's dude.

[Sherbie]

no he is finished.

Ohhhhh yeah, he's finished, alright! :girl_haha:

Night, lovely ladies! See you all tomorrow!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q74/laurasnags/Hugs%20and%20Kisses/_hugs.gif

[jcc]

Does anyone remember... the $10,000 paid to Rumack in 2008 was just a retainer, right? He'll still get extra $$ for his testimony time?

[gramvof14]

Ohhhhh yeah, he's finished, alright! :girl_haha:

Night, lovely ladies! See you all tomorrow!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q74/laurasnags/Hugs%20and%20Kisses/_hugs.gif
night sherbie have a good one.:love0085:

[kellabeck]

WOW! So was Dr Spiro demolished on cross?

[andersson33]

Just had a funny thought - I can imagine Jambois diary entry tonight:

Dear Diary,

Today was the Best Day Ever!

-----

Especially after how it ended. Jambois must have felt Christmas came early :) .

I like that!
:s1gyahoo:

[gramvof14]

That doctor is an Arrogant,Disrespectful,Holier than thou,Obnocious, Look at me how immportant I am LIAR:duh::doh::71541:

[andersson33]

Ohhhhh yeah, he's finished, alright! :girl_haha:

Night, lovely ladies! See you all tomorrow!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q74/laurasnags/Hugs%20and%20Kisses/_hugs.gif

Oh Sherbie. That was sweet!
:love0085:

[vintage_rose]

:zm10:

[gramvof14]

I am sure all that wasn't lost by the jury someone like that they are not going to like at all.Wis ppl are good ppl and know a creep when they see one.:71541::doh:

[kellabeck]

Let's hear it for Judge Seesaw!
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/daz.gif

[kellabeck]

Almost time for American Idol.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/ende.gif

Bye, peeps! Seeya tomorrow!

[gramvof14]

Let's hear it for Judge Seesaw!
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/daz.gif
See you later Kella have a good night.:love0085:

[StoneFox]

WOW! So was Dr Spiro demolished on cross?

Judge destroyed him more than Jambois by having to constantly remind him to JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION..don't embellish the answer.

[shortcake]

Man, I can't get today's ending out of my mind. What a day! Did ya'll see vintage rose put up a thread to post questions you would ask Jambois if you could. I'm thinking. Oh I just thought of one. Gotta head over. BRB

[shortcake]

2 questions came to mind when I got over there. When I think of one, I try to think of how the defense would fight it, so most of the time I shoot myself down.

I loved how things ended today with the judge yelling about Dr. Rumack getting on a plane and back in his courtroom. Would love to have a video camera on that "Airplane", maybe we could come up with a new movie. Bet Rumack will be talking some jive when he gets back before Schroeder.

[IfIMay]

I can't believe I missed this billing stuff. That Dr was hedging...it was so obvious. Brilliant of Jambois to ask for the records. I hope this part makes it to youtube. Thanks for all the great commentary!

[dojewo]

Man, I can't get today's ending out of my mind. What a day! Did ya'll see vintage rose put up a thread to post questions you would ask Jambois if you could. I'm thinking. Oh I just thought of one. Gotta head over. BRB
It was great, I'm glad I got a chance to be here this afternoon.

[dojewo]

I can't believe I missed this billing stuff. That Dr was hedging...it was so obvious. Brilliant of Jambois to ask for the records. I hope this part makes it to youtube. Thanks for all the great commentary!Did you check if it was on youtube yet? I would love to see it again.

[IfIMay]

It's not yet. I hope it is soon. I can't believe I missed it. I am so wiped out by today. Trying to work while listening was tough...luckily I had some mindless stuff to do.

[mitch]

how do you all like my new avitar.

this is who i want to be when i grow up.

[IfIMay]

good one Mitch. Wouldn't you love to see her up against the good Dr today? Crazy. I just can't believe that guy.

[mitch]

good one Mitch. Wouldn't you love to see her up against the good Dr today? Crazy. I just can't believe that guy.


that doctor was wild, right up there with Dr VDM. at first i thougt i liked him he seemed so humble but oh was i wrong.

[IfIMay]

And Dr. Spitz, too. I didn't think anything could top the trifecta of the Spector trial, but I sat at my desk with my mouth open most of the day. My coworkers were looking at me funny.

[dojewo]

how do you all like my new avitar.

this is who i want to be when i grow up.Good one Mitch!

[girlfriday]

Good one Mitch!

Does anyone remember the trip that Mark and Kelly planned.

When was it being discussed?

When were the tickets purchased?

When was the trip planned for?

Thanks in advance :1222423:

[IfIMay]

I believe it was a cruise in January, but like the good doctor today, I'd hedge under oath. :022:

[mitch]

i hope this works. my oldest daughter Jenna she is turning 23 tomorrow.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46630134&MyTok

[girlfriday]

I believe it was a cruise in January, but like the good doctor today, I'd hedge under oath. :022:


Thanks for the help.

I have a theory:
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2372

[Alibar]

i hope this works. my oldest daughter Jenna she is turning 23 tomorrow.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46630134&MyTok


Very pretty girl, mitch, and a nice website. Happy Birthday to Jenn Jenn. :)

[mitch]

Very pretty girl, mitch, and a nice website. Happy Birthday to Jenn Jenn. :)

thank you, she's very special. she tells me that i get no grandchildren from her. i think it's just because she is the oldest of 4 and she'll change her mind in her 30's.

[StoneFox]

how do you all like my new avitar.

this is who i want to be when i grow up.


LOVE IT!!!

Our hero :D

[Alibar]

I like Judge Judy most of the time. :)

[cavimom]

Just had a funny thought - I can imagine Jambois diary entry tonight:

Dear Diary,

Today was the Best Day Ever!

-----

Especially after how it ended. Jambois must have felt Christmas came early :) . :hifive:

[mitch]

I like Judge Judy most of the time. :)


i just love her she is so to the point. i think her show is like anything else just for entertainment.

before i started watching trials and following these boards i use to catch her show and always loved her rulings.

i have a thing for judges and am 100% heart for Judge Herndon from the Mack trail.:22wink:

[RayStar]

I wonder what the good dr. had for lunch!!! Albee has to be furious. See ya in the morn going to bed now.

[mitch]

I wonder what the good dr. had for lunch!!! Albee has to be furious. See ya in the morn going to bed now.

goodnight RayStar, see you men`yona

[Alibar]

i just love her she is so to the point. i think her show is like anything else just for entertainment.

before i started watching trials and following these boards i use to catch her show and always loved her rulings.

i have a thing for judges and am 100% heart for Judge Herndon from the Mack trail.:22wink:


Someone at the other place took great notes of Judge Herndon's sentencing of DM. It is excellent reading... in a separate thread from the main forum. Posted by user name something like Dvore.

[Pinkypoo]

Ok I want to know how many of you would lie for your brother in a case such as this.

If you *thought* your brother was somehow involved in the death of his wife.....would you Lie for him? Let say your brother is MJ (without the porn....cause I can't handle that)
Now don't be wishy washy!

Some would say.....lie for the living.....becasue the dead are dead.

[StoneFox]

Ok I want to know how many of you would lie for your brother in a case such as this.

If you *thought* your brother was somehow involved in the death of his wife.....would you Lie for him? Let say your brother is MJ (without the porn....cause I can't handle that)
Now don't be wishy washy!

Some would say.....lie for the living.....becasue the dead are dead.

Lie for the living even though they are the reason the dead or dead? I never heard anything so nutty. Who ever says that must not believe in a life after death. IMO, they are in for a rude awakening when they ever die.

If it were my brother and my sister-in-law, I don't think I could live with myself if I had knowledge or a suspicion my brother was involved.

JMO

[mitch]

Someone at the other place took great notes of Judge Herndon's sentencing of DM. It is excellent reading... in a separate thread from the main forum. Posted by user name something like Dvore.

thank you for the heads up.

i saw Judge Herndon's sentencing. i also watched that trial to include the withrwl of the plea. JH's rule in that was over an hour long and worth every minute of the investment to me.

I forgot to add that i 99% heart Judge Fidler from the ps trial. he would have gotten a 100% except he kinda of caved toward the end of the trial when that appelate attorney came in.

[shortcake]

Ok I want to know how many of you would lie for your brother in a case such as this.

If you *thought* your brother was somehow involved in the death of his wife.....would you Lie for him? Let say your brother is MJ (without the porn....cause I can't handle that)
Now don't be wishy washy!

Some would say.....lie for the living.....becasue the dead are dead.Oh gosh, I would hope not! Personally, if I don't tell the truth I can't sleep. I would like to believe that I'd tell them I love them, but for my own sanity I couldn't lie for them. Hiding from the truth doesn't protect someone, it only exposes more. Look what all we know about the Jensen family that had truths been told years ago, we would never have found out.

[mitch]

Ok I want to know how many of you would lie for your brother in a case such as this.

If you *thought* your brother was somehow involved in the death of his wife.....would you Lie for him? Let say your brother is MJ (without the porn....cause I can't handle that)
Now don't be wishy washy!

Some would say.....lie for the living.....becasue the dead are dead.

can you see i'm wavering on this question.

my brother is mildly mentally retarded and has a heart of gold so if something did happen i think i would be more than protective on the stand in his favor.

[mitch]

see eveybody in the morning.

bye.

[Pinkypoo]

can you see i'm wavering on this question.

my brother is mildly mentally retarded and has a heart of gold so if something did happen i think i would be more than protective on the stand in his favor.

No shame in that at all. Everyone is different.
Now I wonder.....how far we go for our children. Would you tell a lie like this for your child?
I might. I don't think it's right by any means. But my child....I might tell lies.

[TigressPen]

Ok I want to know how many of you would lie for your brother in a case such as this.

If you *thought* your brother was somehow involved in the death of his wife.....would you Lie for him? Let say your brother is MJ (without the porn....cause I can't handle that)
Now don't be wishy washy!

Some would say.....lie for the living.....becasue the dead are dead.




This is a hard question to answer. I hate being lied to so I really aspire to not lie myself. However, I admit that I'd want my brother to be completely honest with me about what happened. If it was truly an accident or moment of rage, I'd have a heavy, saddened heart and give all factors consideration.

But when it comes down to the 'what's morally right' in my heart, I seriously don't think I could live with myself if I didn't go to cops and give as accurate account as I could about what I was told.

In a situtation such as MJ and Julie. I truly believe I'd risk being ostracized from my family and do what was right. Then, not look back.

[RayStar]

thank you for the heads up.

i saw Judge Herndon's sentencing. i also watched that trial to include the withrwl of the plea. JH's rule in that was over an hour long and worth every minute of the investment to me.

I forgot to add that i 99% heart Judge Fidler from the ps trial. he would have gotten a 100% except he kinda of caved toward the end of the trial when that appelate attorney came in.
:mornincoffee:You may be asleep now but I agree abouty Fidler. He either cave in to the phone atty.:) or he misread the foreman #10. Do you think notetaking will go unnoticed so again? I mean as something else may be going on with the juror. LE should have taken his notepads when he was speaking to the press. I wanted to kick his ha-ha:s1gyahoo:.

[RayStar]

Posts 177 and 178 I agree with both. I hope I am never put in either position. LK must feel awful. Should the chorus all say ""THANK YOU SO MUCH DR. QUACK''. lol