Febuary 13 08 Mark D. Jensen

[gramvof14]

Morning All :mornincoffee: hope I did this right.

[RayStar]

:mornincoffee:Great minds think alike. I will get mod to delete my thread.

[gramvof14]

:mornincoffee:Great minds think alike. I will get mod to delete my thread.
No problem I didn't know what the heck I was doing, but I thought I would try.:)

[sciencegirl]

Morning all:basic44:

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.

[kellabeck]

:mornincoffee:

Good morning, Gram!!
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Congrats on starting a thread and putting the defendant's whole name in it, just as it will be in the verdict.

"In the matter of STATE OF WISCONSIN v. MARK D. JENSEN, how do you find on count one, premeditated murder?"

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Time is running out, Marky!
Enjoy your suit and tie cuz you ain't gonna be wearin' it for long!

[gramvof14]

Morning all:basic44:

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.
OK SG I will say a prayer for your dad.:1222423:

[Roamer]

Best wishes for your dad to have a clean test, SG. :1222423:

Good morning, everyone. :)

Wish I'd watched this trial. Just reading all your posts, it sounds fascinating.

[kellabeck]

Good luck to your father, SG!!

[gramvof14]

:mornincoffee:

Good morning, Gram!!
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Congrats on starting a thread and putting the defendant's whole name in it, just as it will be in the verdict.

"In the matter of STATE OF WISCONSIN v. MARK D. JENSEN, how do you find on count one, premeditated murder?"

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Time is running out, Marky!
Enjoy your suit and tie cuz you ain't gonna be wearin' it for long!
Thank you Kella I hoped I did it right, but thought I needed to try I have been on the messages boards for years and never have learned to start a thread.haha:happy0207:

[RayStar]

No problem I didn't know what the heck I was doing, but I thought I would try.:)

DITTO I was shocked it worked. All gone now thanks to Roamer.:)

[RayStar]

OK SG I will say a prayer for your dad.:1222423:

Good luck.

[gramvof14]

Best wishes for your dad to have a clean test, SG. :1222423:

Good morning, everyone. :)

Wish I'd watched this trial. Just reading all your posts, it sounds fascinating.

Thanks Roamer for teaching me how to start a thread, hope I did it right, and it is a great trial.:happy0207::love0085:

[NavyMom58]

:mornincoffee:Good morning all!
SG I hope all goes well for your dad and will say a prayer for him.

Well was the judge upset yesterday or what? That Dr. Rumack sounds like he is in a heap o trouble about the amount he was paid.

[JONOTWO]

So far Albee has had the fired lady, snitch, DR.s Rumack and Spiro on the stand. I give the snitch top spot for honesty, unsat for not being able to be understood well, and dead even with all the others for zero to negative worth to the defense. How can
this quad be surpassed today? ''THE WORLD WONDERS''

[gramvof14]

:mornincoffee:Good morning all!
SG I hope all goes well for your dad and will say a prayer for him.

Well was the judge upset yesterday or what? That Dr. Rumack sounds like he is in a heap o trouble about the amount he was paid.
Morning NavyMom :mornincoffee:He sure is and I have never seen the Judge so angry its about time he took charge of his court.:shock:

[kellabeck]

Can I hope that stupid In Session will actually play moments from the LIVE frickin trial they've supposedly been covering and I could see Judge Seesaw come down on Rumack?

And I could see the cross of Spiro??

[RayStar]

I doubt this trial will go on much longer after that mess yesterday. How does the defense recover from this? I bet Albee and team Jensen gave the doctor an earful:s1gyahoo::sad0119:.:( I wonder if Albee was aware of this doctor not being able to withstand the questioning of the pros.:0009: His whole demeanor changed as soon as ""Mr. Jamblois"" asked the first question. :hifive: I think the doctor had too much lunch .:happy0158:

[NavyMom58]

Morning NavyMom :mornincoffee:He sure is and I have never seen the Judge so angry its about time he took charge of his court.:shock:
Hi Gram,I certainly agree to that! I was beginning to think this judge was a pushover for Albee!
I just hope he will continue to take charge. I wish he would jump Albee about talking over him.

[gramvof14]

I doubt this trial will go on much longer after that mess yesterday. How does the defense recover from this? I bet Albee and team Jensen gave the doctor an earful:s1gyahoo::sad0119:.:( I wonder if Albee was aware of this doctor not being able to withstand the questioning of the pros.:0009: His whole demeanor changed as soon as ""Mr. Jamblois"" asked the first question. :hifive: I think the doctor had too much lunch .:happy0158:
I think he has to much ego.I was wondering with all that yelling if the jurors could hear any of it????:shock::rolleye0001:

[kellabeck]

I totally missed the snitch. What did Albee's snitch have to say? And how could Albee bring on a snitch with a straight face after he laced into the crowd of 'em on the prosecution side?

Memo to Gram-- you posted a long time before starting a thread and now you know how very easy it is to do. And that explains the phenomenon of first-time posters starting threads.

:rolleyes:

[RayStar]

So far Albee has had the fired lady, snitch, DR.s Rumack and Spiro on the stand. I give the snitch top spot for honesty, unsat for not being able to be understood well, and dead even with all the others for zero to negative worth to the defense. How can
this quad be surpassed today? ''THE WORLD WONDERS''
:67302::67302::67302::67302: We must not forget Laura Jensen Koster.:)

[RayStar]

Yes, I'm sure they heard some of that yelling. The judge showed his Big k's yesterday.LOL

[kellabeck]

I think he has to much ego.I was wondering with all that yelling if the jurors could hear any of it????:shock::rolleye0001:

Remember when the Spector jury buzzed because they could hear the shouting in Judge F's courtroom??

My guess is that the juryroom is one wall away and that they can hear raised voices but prolly not the words.

My guess is that they sit there, annoyed that they are once again cooling their heels (because that's what juries do and how they feel) and they know they cannot know what is going on, but they know something is going on, and when they hear that they are arguing, they know it's heated but they can't speculate, can't discuss it. They prolly giggled, laughed nervously and shrugged. And they are thinking "This has gotta be over soon. Give us the case already!!!"
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[NavyMom58]

Remember when the Spector jury buzzed because they could hear the shouting in Judge F's courtroom??

My guess is that the juryroom is one wall away and that they can hear raised voices but prolly not the words.

My guess is that they sit there, annoyed that they are once again cooling their heels (because that's what juries do and how they feel) and they know they cannot know what is going on, but they know something is going on, and when they hear that they are arguing, they know it's heated but they can't speculate, can't discuss it. They prolly giggled, laughed nervously and shrugged. And they are thinking "This has gotta be over soon. Give us the case already!!!"
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You are probably right , I just realized I'm too nosy to be on a jury! I'd want to peek in, see what was happening!

[kellabeck]

Jonotwo--- aren't you glad you came over here and did you see my big
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[gramvof14]

Remember when the Spector jury buzzed because they could hear the shouting in Judge F's courtroom??

My guess is that the juryroom is one wall away and that they can hear raised voices but prolly not the words.

My guess is that they sit there, annoyed that they are once again cooling their heels (because that's what juries do and how they feel) and they know they cannot know what is going on, but they know something is going on, and when they hear that they are arguing, they know it's heated but they can't speculate, can't discuss it. They prolly giggled, laughed nervously and shrugged. And they are thinking "This has gotta be over soon. Give us the case already!!!"
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Yes I do remember that is what came to my mind when Judge S was yelling so loud.:girl_haha:
Welcome Jonotwo I was not posting a lot yesterday I wasn't feeling well so I didn't get a chance to welcome you,hope you like it here it is a much nicer place to be.:basic44::happy0207: gramv

[gramvof14]

:attention:Just thought I would give you a weather update for NH it snowed last night and now it is sleeting what a mess out there, a lot of no schools to day.I am glad I cancelled my Cat-scan for this morning.I have to feed Cody and let him out BRB.:basic45:

[dojewo]

Morning all:basic44:

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.
Morning all, SG, my prayers are for your Dad today. Gram, thanks for starting the thread. I wonder if we will have fireworks in the court room first thing in the morning?

[IfIMay]

Bummed. The only video up from yesterday is the direct of the doc. Just can't listen to that garbage again. I wanna see the billing fiasco.

Good morning!

Good luck to your Dad, SG. And Happy Birthday to Mitch's Daughter!

[dojewo]

Bummed. The only video up from yesterday is the direct of the doc. Just can't listen to that garbage again. I wanna see the billing fiasco.

Good morning!

Good luck to your Dad, SG. And Happy Birthday to Mitch's Daughter!
I was really hopeing that the arguement would have been on youtube.

[IfIMay]

Maybe it will be later. RCBE put up two long videos of the doc. I'll keep checking and let you know.

[KellBell]

Good Morning!

I can't wait to hear about Dr. Rumack being told he must come back. The defense is sunk. Albee really screwed this one up. Not that he had much to work with.

[dojewo]

Maybe it will be later. RCBE put up two long videos of the doc. I'll keep checking and let you know.Thanks, it's something definately worth watching again.

[IfIMay]

Good Morning!

I can't wait to hear about Dr. Rumack being told he must come back. The defense is sunk. Albee really screwed this one up. Not that he had much to work with.

Seriously. If these two were the best *money* could buy, he shoulda just said the prosecution didn't prove their case and sit down. These *experts* have been pathetic.

[KellBell]

I really hope the person posting those videos on youtube still had it running when the billing fiasco started. I want everyone to see and hear the judge yelling. He was so livid. I never have seen him that mad. You could tell how disrespected he felt. There could have been flames shooting out of his ears.

[KellBell]

Seriously. If these two were the best *money* could buy, he shoulda just said the prosecution didn't prove their case and sit down. These *experts* have been pathetic.

Amen!

[kellabeck]

Oh, man!! I am so sorry to have missed that!!
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[JONOTWO]

Kellabeck- much nicer here, for sure, and your welcome was welcomed!! The snitch said
he saw MJ being intimidated by other inmates, like having to give his commissary goodies to them, and making phone calls for them. I think Albee tried to get him to say if he saw anyone reading things in NJ's cell, unsuccessfully.
Yes, I forgot to add MJ's sister in my defense all-star list. She falls in the zero to negative worth bunch. Please change ''quad'' to ''pentagon''.

[dojewo]

I really hope the person posting those videos on youtube still had it running when the billing fiasco started. I want everyone to see and hear the judge yelling. He was so livid. I never have seen him that mad. You could tell how disrespected he felt. There could have been flames shooting out of his ears.I"m sure the Dr. will come back with a lot of, I forgot, It slipped my mind, I didn't have all the paper work together, kind of talk. Just saying it was an innocent mistake and he didn't remember actually what he was paid. It wasn't important because it was money he was going to use to buy his grandchildren toys. Can you hear it now?

[dojewo]

Kellabeck- much nicer here, for sure, and your welcome was welcomed!! The snitch said
he saw MJ being intimidated by other inmates, like having to give his commissary goodies to them, and making phone calls for them. I think Albee tried to get him to say if he saw anyone reading things in NJ's cell, unsuccessfully.
Yes, I forgot to add MJ's sister in my defense all-star list. She falls in the zero to negative worth bunch. Please change ''quad'' to ''pentagon''.I also would like to welcome you here, it's a great place.

[NavyMom58]

Oh, man!! I am so sorry to have missed that!!
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It was so great to see the judge yelling at Albee! Albee was really caught off guard with this!

[KellBell]

I"m sure the Dr. will come back with a lot of, I forgot, It slipped my mind, I didn't have all the paper work together, kind of talk. Just saying it was an innocent mistake and he didn't remember actually what he was paid. It wasn't important because it was money he was going to use to buy his grandchildren toys. Can you hear it now?

Yes I can hear it, I will remember not to eat before he gets on the stand. I wouldn't want to lose my lunch.

[IfIMay]

I"m sure the Dr. will come back with a lot of, I forgot, It slipped my mind, I didn't have all the paper work together, kind of talk. Just saying it was an innocent mistake and he didn't remember actually what he was paid. It wasn't important because it was money he was going to use to buy his grandchildren toys. Can you hear it now?

Yes, I can hear it, but it will be disingenuous at best. He was so obviously trying to discount his earnings. He's testified 100 times and he doesn't know this will be asked? I hope the Judge gives it to him.

[kellabeck]

So the snitch added ZERO because we already knew that Marky had been hit by Thompson. Didn't Thompson admit it? And Bush said so, too, IIRC.
The jury must be humming Peggy Lee, "Is That All There Is?"

Meanwhile I have unearthed a scientific recreation of the Mind of Mark Jensen and what occupies it. You get to figure out what the "Other" is.

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[dojewo]

It was so great to see the judge yelling at Albee! Albee was really caught off guard with this! I think Albee should have corrected this payment issue right away. I'm sure he had records with him or at least at the office. Why didn't he forward them much earlier? Or isn't this something he should do?

[gramvof14]

Morning all, SG, my prayers are for your Dad today. Gram, thanks for starting the thread. I wonder if we will have fireworks in the court room first thing in the morning?
Morning Dojewo and everyone, your welcome Doj and I sure loved seeing the Judge finally take charge of his court room, I hope they show that again on TTV this morning:girl_haha:

[dojewo]

Yes I can hear it, I will remember not to eat before he gets on the stand. I wouldn't want to lose my lunch.Truthfully, after all the trials I have watched, this one has been the most exciting. I love the arguements they've had.

[dojewo]

Yes, I can hear it, but it will be disingenuous at best. He was so obviously trying to discount his earnings. He's testified 100 times and he doesn't know this will be asked? I hope the Judge gives it to him.He definately should have known he would be asked, maybe he just thought it would all just go away. Dang, I wish the Jury would be able to hear these arguements, but I know they can't.

I have to run DD to school, see you all in a bit.

[gramvof14]

So the snitch added ZERO because we already knew that Marky had been hit by Thompson. Didn't Thompson admit it? And Bush said so, too, IIRC.
The jury must be humming Peggy Lee, "Is That All There Is?"

Meanwhile I have unearthed a scientific recreation of the Mind of Mark Jensen and what occupies it. You get to figure out what the "Other" is.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/andyboy444/whatmenlove.jpg
:s1gyahoo::67302::happy0158:

[KellBell]

One may never know but it makes me wonder if Albee told him to mislead (**cough**lie**cough**) or did the doctor do this on his own just knowing that the jury's jaws would drop to the floor knowing how much he really makes for his testimony.

Not to mention I am sure he gets paid his bigger portion after testimony.

[dojewo]

Morning Dojewo and everyone, your welcome Doj and I sure loved seeing the Judge finally take charge of his court room, I hope they show that again on TTV this morning:girl_haha:I wouldn't wait to long for TTV to show it, they've seemed to forget about us and the trial that's live. BRB

[KellBell]

Truthfully, after all the trials I have watched, this one has been the most exciting. I love the arguements they've had.

Well someone said in I think week 3 that I had picked a good trial for my first to watch in its entirety but it just keeps getting better and better as the weeks go on. Kind of bums me out that after this trial none will give me that special feeling inside...:girl_haha:

[gramvof14]

I think Albee should have corrected this payment issue right away. I'm sure he had records with him or at least at the office. Why didn't he forward them much earlier? Or isn't this something he should do?
Sure it is, and the Judge ordered him to fax them to Jambois, I think that is correct and that is how Jam knew.:basic45:

[Sherbie]

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Do y'all think that Dr. Rumack will appear today or that he'll take his sweet time getting back there?

[KellBell]

Do you think that the judge assumes that everyone will tell the truth under oath? Come on! Does he seriously think people don't lie on the stand everyday??? Especially people with motive to do so?

[IfIMay]

One may never know but it makes me wonder if Albee told him to mislead (**cough**lie**cough**) or did the doctor do this on his own just knowing that the jury's jaws would drop to the floor knowing how much he really makes for his testimony.

Not to mention I am sure he gets paid his bigger portion after testimony.

I think they both thought Jambois would just accept the info given. You could tell he was perplexed after Jambois started in on the *I didn't ask the last amount you were paid, I asked for the total amount paid*.

Albee should have *gently reminded* him of the amount in re-direct. Then it would have been a much smaller issue. I think Jambois could call him back to the stand to *clarify* the issue, correct?

Honestly, to me the amount is pretty low. I've seen a lot more be paid to experts.

[KellBell]

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Do y'all think that Dr. Rumack will appear today or that he'll take his sweet time getting back there?


I would be scared if I were him but the judge was clear when he said he wanted him on a plane NOW. I am sure he will subpena him or court order or something, he didn't sound like he was messing around.

[KellBell]

I think they both thought Jambois would just accept the info given. You could tell he was perplexed after Jambois started in on the *I didn't ask the last amount you were paid, I asked for the total amount paid*.

Albee should have *gently reminded* him of the amount in re-direct. Then it would have been a much smaller issue. I think Jambois could call him back to the stand to *clarify* the issue, correct?

Honestly, to me the amount is pretty low. I've seen a lot more be paid to experts.

Wow, I need to become an expert in something. I said in an earlier post, don't know if it is true or not, but if these hired guns are always asked these questions on the stand why don't they just wait until after the trial to send an invoice? Or maybe they bill for the rest after?

[cavimom]

Originally Posted by sciencegirl
Morning all

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.

GL to your dad and you! My mom had it too and frequent colonoscopies are the ONLY way to keep those polyps under wraps! :1222423: for u and ur dad!

Oh and :mornincoffee: to everyone.... Hoping JS remembered where he found his Kahonas yesterdayand keeps them OUT! :s1gyahoo:

[KellBell]

So the snitch added ZERO because we already knew that Marky had been hit by Thompson. Didn't Thompson admit it? And Bush said so, too, IIRC.
The jury must be humming Peggy Lee, "Is That All There Is?"

Meanwhile I have unearthed a scientific recreation of the Mind of Mark Jensen and what occupies it. You get to figure out what the "Other" is.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/andyboy444/whatmenlove.jpg


The snitch added zero in my eyes. IIRC Thompson said he only pushed/shoved MJ. All the other snitches said he punched/hit/slapped him. Albee has nothing. I honestly thought he had a little something with the doc that was on yesterday until Jambois chewed him up and spit him out. So Albee has had nothing but :faintTHUD:

[kindee]

So the snitch added ZERO because we already knew that Marky had been hit by Thompson. Didn't Thompson admit it? And Bush said so, too, IIRC.
The jury must be humming Peggy Lee, "Is That All There Is?"

Meanwhile I have unearthed a scientific recreation of the Mind of Mark Jensen and what occupies it. You get to figure out what the "Other" is.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/andyboy444/whatmenlove.jpg



So the snitch for the defense testified? I miss all the good stuff! :22wink:

mornin' all!

Good luck SG! hurry back! (((hugs)))

[IfIMay]

Wow, I need to become an expert in something. I said in an earlier post, don't know if it is true or not, but if these hired guns are always asked these questions on the stand why don't they just wait until after the trial to send an invoice? Or maybe they bill for the rest after?

They always bill something...cause how bad would that look if they are on the case for years, but don't bill at all. It's like the ones that observe autopsies but don't take notes (in public) because they become discovery. They write a one paragraph summary of their work to turn over. Yeah right.

[cavimom]

I would be scared if I were him but the judge was clear when he said he wanted him on a plane NOW. I am sure he will subpena him or court order or something, he didn't sound like he was messing around.

:shock: WOW JS impressed me , I hope he stands his ground! I wanna see Spiros invoices now too...i think he :022: around that question!

[TigressPen]

:mornincoffee: Good morning All! I will be away for an hour or so this morning also... But these threads are the Best :love0085: for catching up what I miss. So it won't take long to get back up to speed when I return.

Hope weather is good for everyone today!! No outages allowed during trials!!:lex_10:

[shortcake]

Morning all:basic44:

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.
Prayers for your dad and you.:innocent0001:

[kellabeck]

Any predictions? In Session will spend their entire day replaying Cutts testimony and verdict watch with occasional microseconds with Jean Casarez ("Short Shrift with Jean C") for updates.

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[kindee]

Well someone said in I think week 3 that I had picked a good trial for my first to watch in its entirety but it just keeps getting better and better as the weeks go on. Kind of bums me out that after this trial none will give me that special feeling inside...:girl_haha:


Men keep killing their wives and girlfriends..but this new trend (Bobby Cutts, the Marine dude, MJensen) of blaming the DEAD woman is kind of new.

I bet there are many more good trials in your future.

[cavimom]

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Do y'all think that Dr. Rumack will appear today or that he'll take his sweet time getting back there?

:waitasec: I'm sure Albee will have some sort of bologna why he cannot get back soon! He will TRY his best to :71526: hide not knowing the totals because of how LONG its been.. but I :innocent0001: JS will keep his Kahonas on his bench today! :girl_haha:

[IfIMay]

I truly hope we get to see Drew Peterson on trial for at least his 2nd wife's murder. I feel he murdered Stacy, too, but I don't know if they will be able to prove it.

[kindee]

So far Albee has had the fired lady, snitch, DR.s Rumack and Spiro on the stand. I give the snitch top spot for honesty, unsat for not being able to be understood well, and dead even with all the others for zero to negative worth to the defense. How can
this quad be surpassed today? ''THE WORLD WONDERS''



:girl_haha: and welcome "here" jono, great to see you!

[StoneFox]

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Do y'all think that Dr. Rumack will appear today or that he'll take his sweet time getting back there?


I think he will be there. He might otherwise face contempt charges, and I wouldn't want to be him facing a *mad* judge with contempt. Judge might give him the max.

Does anybody remember the amounts Rumack reported and what was actually billed?

Was it $7100 reported/testified to, and 17000+ that was actually billed?

If so, I'm wondering if Rumack will say he mistated the amounts believing he said 17k.

[cavimom]

Any predictions? In Session will spend their entire day replaying Cutts testimony and verdict watch with occasional microseconds with Jean Casarez ("Short Shrift with Jean C") for updates.

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:000: I hope not... they are in verdict watch... I wanna see fireworks in the MJ trail! :67302:

[RayStar]

:shock: WOW JS impressed me , I hope he stands his ground! I wanna see Spiros invoices now too...i think he :022: around that question!
Gosh when I read your post I thought JS was for the dr. Now I know it is for for THE JUDGE!:basic44::basic44:

[cavimom]

I think he will be there. He might otherwise face contempt charges, and I wouldn't want to be him facing a *mad* judge with contempt. Judge might give him the max.

Does anybody remember the amounts Rumack reported and what was actually billed?

Was it $7100 reported/testified to, and 17000+ that was actually billed?

If so, I'm wondering if Rumack will say he mistated the amounts believing he said 17k.

I betcha he will say that it was $7100 at that point that Jambois asked him....and THEN billed for the rest after he testified?? what do you think?
either that he will be :missing: today in the court room...

[kellabeck]

Well, I couldn't resist and have fired off an email to Lisa and Vinnie:
What is wrong with you people and your decisionmakers??

You abandoned the Mark Jensen trial for the Darren Mack sentencing, understandable since you had covered that trial, but now you have all but dropped a LIVE trial, a FASCINATING LIVE TRIAL that you have been covering in order to rehash and rehash and show and reshow OLD FOOTAGE OF FRICKIN BOBBY CUTTS, a trial you didn't cover, that is covered in other venues and are ignoring the fireworks and excitement in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.

Are you going to spend yet another day in verdict watch replaying Bobby's fake tears while totally dissing the Mark Jensen trial??

Do you think we are not interested in Mark Jensen because the In Session forum has gone squishy and not as active? That's because all the good responsible posters have FLED to another board (helpfindthemissing.org/forums) which is not run by trolls.

First your network cuts back on courtroom coverage and foists Star Jones on us. We could have told you that would be the disaster it was.

And when she gets cancelled, do you restore your courtroom coverage? No!

Come back, Steve Brill!! Bring back CourtTV!!!!!!!!! We are not all Anna Nicole and Car Crash fans, you know!
(signed)

[shortcake]

I was wondering what Albee's office was anticipating going down yesterday because I had noticed the partner, Stephen Glynn, sitting in the rows behind Albee, and saw Albee go sit down and talk with him while other testimony was going on. I believe they knew their butts were going to be in trouble. Did you notice that when Jambois brought up that it was Tuesday and the Rumack billing records were due, it was Stephen Glynn that spoke up to address the this and thats. I think that's because he is a more senior lawyer and they believed the judge would be more inclined to accept what they had to say if it came from Glynn. Wrongo Bongo!

[gramvof14]

They keep showing Cutts with his crocodile tears, I never saw any tears running down his face.they are on verdict watch so if they come in with a verdict thts all that will be on TTV. they are saying he should not have taken the stand because he has a track record of violents.I think he strangled her.
Sorry for the O/T

[dojewo]

Well someone said in I think week 3 that I had picked a good trial for my first to watch in its entirety but it just keeps getting better and better as the weeks go on. Kind of bums me out that after this trial none will give me that special feeling inside...:girl_haha:There is always that certain catch in every trial that keeps you going, it's a drug, and I'm addicted.

[StoneFox]

Found this on yesterday's afternoon thread. Posted by jcc:

COOL!!! On Rumack's fees!!

$5000 1990's
$5000 1990's
$2600 2007
$4600 2007 $4 something anyway (I think I heard the total was $16, 750 to date.)
$10,000 2008


We are now up to $16,750. ALBEE doesn't now how much he was paid?????

This is so good!

The judge is so mad!!! Dr. Rumack is going to be back. OMGoodness. Judge is very upset! This is a material difference.

Thank you jcc!

[cavimom]

Kell,

WTG! Fantastic e-mail! :hifive: good for you! I have e-mailed them too but they never listen!:mad:

[cavimom]

Morning Dojewo and everyone, your welcome Doj and I sure loved seeing the Judge finally take charge of his court room, I hope they show that again on TTV this morning:girl_haha:

Mee too.. That was VERY impressive to see him WAKE up and take control of Albee and his court room! :hifive: GO JS!

[shortcake]

Well, I couldn't resist and have fired off an email to Lisa and Vinnie:
What is wrong with you people and your decisionmakers??

...snipped...

Do you think we are not interested in Mark Jensen because the In Session forum has gone squishy and not as active? That's because all the good responsible posters have FLED to another board (helpfindthemissing.org/forums) which is not run by trolls.

First your network cuts back on courtroom coverage and foists Star Jones on us. We could have told you that would be the disaster it was.

And when she gets cancelled, do you restore your courtroom coverage? No!

Come back, Steve Brill!! Bring back CourtTV!!!!!!!!! We are not all Anna Nicole and Car Crash fans, you know!
(signed)

Nice job! Wonder how thick headed they are though. Will they comprehend?

[dojewo]

Sure it is, and the Judge ordered him to fax them to Jambois, I think that is correct and that is how Jam knew.:basic45:I guess my question is, when it was ordered that the doctor send the papers by yesterday, didn't Albee have copies that could have been in court much earlier?

[KellBell]

I betcha he will say that it was $7100 at that point that Jambois asked him....and THEN billed for the rest after he testified?? what do you think?
either that he will be :missing: today in the court room...


He can't because they have copies of the cleared check from 2003 and 2004 totalling 10,000 by itself and then another 7,100 in 2007 IIRC. So not only did he invoice it but he cashed the checks...OOPS :022:

[kellabeck]

opencourt@cnn.com

If you care to add your voice to cavimom's and mine! Maybe they don't listen to one or two, but dozens??

[KellBell]

Any predictions? In Session will spend their entire day replaying Cutts testimony and verdict watch with occasional microseconds with Jean Casarez ("Short Shrift with Jean C") for updates.

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-055.gif


Yeah I was gonna say earlier they are probably going to show recaps and verdict watch. This Jensen trial is good, I don't know why they don't wanna show it.

[cavimom]

I would be scared if I were him but the judge was clear when he said he wanted him on a plane NOW. I am sure he will subpena him or court order or something, he didn't sound like he was messing around.


Didnt Albee say that he was going out of the country??:0009:. I am sure he can get on touch BUT ho fast he will hve him back, I dunno??

[gramvof14]

Jean is on now about the fireworks in the court room.

[kellabeck]

Ha!!!

They must have read our emails because they have suddenly switched to Elkhorn!!

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/party/party-smiley-047.gif

[cavimom]

I just noticed A LOT of us have pics of our pets as avitars.. How cute! Oh MJ trial so as not to be off topic :22wink:

[KellBell]

Men keep killing their wives and girlfriends..but this new trend (Bobby Cutts, the Marine dude, MJensen) of blaming the DEAD woman is kind of new.

I bet there are many more good trials in your future.


Sad but true, I am really hoping for an arrest of Cesar Lorean and a trial. I really would like to know what happened that day and why she was at his house. Why she would write that note to her roommate, so many questions.

[cavimom]

Ha!!!

They must have read our emails because they have suddenly switched to Elkhorn!!

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/party/party-smiley-047.gif

again WTG Kell :zm10:

[Xmygrits]

Morning all:basic44:

I've got to leave in 15 minutes to go take my Dad for his colonoscopy. He's had colon cancer once; and we're hoping it's not back again. Keep your fingers crossed. Not sure what time I will get back; but hopefully between 9-10. Take good notes please.

See you all soon.


:love0085:SG

For your dad :1222423:

[Shotzie]

Jean is on now about the fireworks in the court room.
Please tell us what she says...We out here in CAlif have to wait til 9:00 our time almost 2.1/2 hrs..Bring it on Jean..Thank You Gramvolf

[bambam]

Sad but true, I am really hoping for an arrest of Cesar Lorean and a trial. I really would like to know what happened that day and why she was at his house. Why she would write that note to her roommate, so many questions.

:mornincoffee: all!

i've not been keeping up with all the news shows...has that guy been caught yet? surely i woulda seen it if he had....

[kindee]

opencourt@cnn.com

If you care to add your voice to cavimom's and mine! Maybe they don't listen to one or two, but dozens??



Just added mine. Hopefully we'll get all Jensen today at any rate.

[kindee]

Sad but true, I am really hoping for an arrest of Cesar Lorean and a trial. I really would like to know what happened that day and why she was at his house. Why she would write that note to her roommate, so many questions.



yep. I can think of 2 or 3 upcoming trials that might be good watching...if they are covered live of course.

[dojewo]

I just sent my email:

To whom it may concern,

I would sure like to see more coverage ot the live trial right now then repeated coverage of the non tearing cry baby Cutts. Please go back to the Jensen trial. Thank you xxxxx

[dojewo]

I just noticed A LOT of us have pics of our pets as avitars.. How cute! Oh MJ trial so as not to be off topic :22wink:Cav, they
definately are cuties, I still have to find a good pic of my dog

[kellabeck]

"It's practically a memory test, the question is so long"
Weak, Albee!! What number objection is that?

[StoneFox]

Just added mine. Hopefully we'll get all Jensen today at any rate.

Just sent mine. :basic45:

[mitch]

good morning everyone.

i see kellabeck had to beat TTv this morning into showing her some of the doctor.

[dojewo]

Anyone have a clock yet? Wisn is a black screen for me.

Now I have a clock

[KellBell]

Didnt Albee say that he was going out of the country??:0009:. I am sure he can get on touch BUT ho fast he will hve him back, I dunno??

I would leave the country too! No seriously I don't know if he said that or not.

[andersson33]

Good morning everyone!
I think this is the earliest I've gotten up since day 1 of the trial--the judge got my blood boiling, I guess!:0012:

And to gram: thanks so much for starting the thread!

And to SG: I've got you and your dad in my thoughts this morning. And my fingers are crossed for good news. :love0085:

We are done with that arrogant SOB from yesterday, aren't we?

[kindee]

good morning everyone.

i see kellabeck had to beat TTv this morning into showing her some of the doctor.




We ought to send her in for us EVERY time!

:)

Jean is talking about the jurors watching the fireworks yesterday.

Bet they were UNimpressed with the good psychiatrist. The TH on with Vinnie ain't too impressed either. I agree with her: WAY too much speculating about the state of Julie's mind. Hired Hand BIG time.

[Sherbie]

Katy and Cavi, I *think* the state produced actual checks (or copies thereof) that had been cut for/cashed by the doctor, showing what he'd been paid before he testified (they weren't billing statements, but actual payments). The amounts he had already been paid were far in excess of what he testified he'd either billed or would be billing. But I'm not certain I got it right -- I wasn't real sure what was going on at first and didn't pay as close attention as I now wish I had.

There is something hinky about it all for the judge to have been so incredibly pissed about it. For the judge to court order the guy to get on a plane and get back in the courtroom pronto, he must feel there is not a plausible, innocent, excusable explanation for the discrepancies.

You know, the judge also got really peeved during the other doctor's testimony yesterday, especially with his lecturing the DA, giving sermons, making personal opinion comments, etc. I wonder if the judge was just completely fed up with defense tactics in general and blew his stack over that as much as Dr. R's billing/payment discrepancies.

ETA: Sorry, was replying to posts on previous page and forgot to quote them. Doh!

[kindee]

Anyone have a clock yet? Wisn is a black screen for me.

Now I have a clock




I just got clock too Do. Looks like we're on our way! :happy0207:

[KellBell]

I sent my email...

[cavimom]

"It's practically a memory test, the question is so long"
Weak, Albee!! What number objection is that?

697 objections so far
56 motions for mistrial
:girl_haha:

[dojewo]

I just got clock too Do. Looks like we're on our way! :happy0207:I wonder if there will be any fireworks before we get started this morning?

[mitch]

i haven't watched this trial on TTv at all until this morning. man these folks in WI are milky white. it doesn't really show on the computer like on the TV

i should'nt talk though because i am too and i live in a very sunny state.

[StoneFox]

Katy and Cavi, I *think* the state produced actual checks (or copies thereof) that had been cut for/cashed by the doctor, showing what he'd been paid before he testified (they weren't billing statements, but actual payments). The amounts he had already been paid were far in excess of what he testified he'd either billed or would be billing. But I'm not certain I got it right -- I wasn't real sure what was going on at first and didn't pay as close attention as I now wish I had.

There is something hinky about it all for the judge to have been so incredibly pissed about it. For the judge to court order the guy to get on a plane and get back in the courtroom pronto, he must feel there is not a plausible, innocent, excusable explanation for the discrepancies.

You know, the judge also got really peeved during the other doctor's testimony yesterday, especially with his lecturing the DA, giving sermons, making personal opinion comments, etc. I wonder if the judge was just completely fed up with defense tactics in general and blew his stack over that as much as Dr. R's billing/payment discrepancies.

ETA: Sorry, was replying to posts on previous page and forgot to quote them. Doh!


Hiya Sherbie :0012:
Yep, ITA, judge has had it with defense tactics.

He's also had it with the snarky disregard these def experts have for his court room, IMO.

[Sherbie]

I was wondering what Albee's office was anticipating going down yesterday because I had noticed the partner, Stephen Glynn, sitting in the rows behind Albee, and saw Albee go sit down and talk with him while other testimony was going on. I believe they knew their butts were going to be in trouble. Did you notice that when Jambois brought up that it was Tuesday and the Rumack billing records were due, it was Stephen Glynn that spoke up to address the this and thats. I think that because he is a more senior lawyer they believed the judge would be more inclined to accept what they had to say if it came from Glynn. Wrongo Bongo!

Thank you for clarifying this, Shorty! I didn't catch the name of the gentleman who was showing the checks to the judge. So it was the defense partner...I thought he was likely an investigator for the DA or something. Thank you very much for this info!

[Topaz]

is very poor for the defense. His demeanor is hard, his face is cruel.
I don't think Albee is a people person to pick him.

People in general do not like shrinks (especially males). This Spiro comes over
very hard, and dogmatic. I don't think the jury will like him at all. NOPE.

Irregardless of the content he may wish to convey...he is not a likeable person or compassionate. No wonder he hires out to trials.

Don't forget in the Andrea Yates trial, the appeal reversed the verdict based on a lie given by a shrink witness who said he provided scripts to the TV show Law and Order. So he won the jury over with fake celebrity! I think this goes both ways.

Albee the Alienator... that should be his title.

[bambam]

omg y'all..dh was watching ttv, and said hey i want you to post this for me... and post it on the ctv board. i was like OH NO--he's like yeah, you can tell em it's me, and not you... here's what i wanna say... and proceeded to have me type out this silly little post and put it over there. *sigh* the things i do for him! sheesh!

[kellabeck]

TG for pic in pic tv and the internet so I can watch this trial AND see Roger Clemens lie like a rug to the Senate.

[gramvof14]

Please tell us what she says...We out here in CAlif have to wait til 9:00 our time almost 2.1/2 hrs..Bring it on Jean..Thank You Gramvolf
the guest Austin PHD said the Doc came off looking bad.

[KellBell]

http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream3

[andersson33]

I sent my email...

:hifive:

[Kara]

All righty....I'm ready to go. The THs on Ttv this morning seem to think the psych testimony yesterday was bunk The one lady (I can't remember her name...a psychotherapist) said this guy gives shrinks a bad name because he had no business pretending he could analyze information he didn't have.

[Xmygrits]

Just in case somebody needs em:



Live Links

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream3

http://mfile.akamai.com/12894/live/reflector:22674.asx

http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html

[girlfriday]

Ha!!!

They must have read our emails because they have suddenly switched to Elkhorn!!

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/party/party-smiley-047.gif

I think you are right! Thanks!

I want trials that give me the opportunity to play armchair sleuth, lawyer and judge.

For trials like Mack and Cutts, I only have a fleeting interest - but I find the Jensen case riveting. I want to see every detail of it I can - right through to the end.

[KellBell]

omg y'all..dh was watching ttv, and said hey i want you to post this for me... and post it on the ctv board. i was like OH NO--he's like yeah, you can tell em it's me, and not you... here's what i wanna say... and proceeded to have me type out this silly little post and put it over there. *sigh* the things i do for him! sheesh!


:67302::hifive::happy0158::s1gyahoo:

[kindee]

We are LIVE!!!!!

[KellBell]

Live!

[andersson33]

Live.

[girlfriday]

Just in case somebody needs em:



Live Links

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream3

http://mfile.akamai.com/12894/live/reflector:22674.asx

http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html


:1222423:

Thanks!

[shortcake]

oh good gosh! a lawyer by phone!

[KellBell]

oooooooooo Rumack got his lawyer involved... Yikes...

[kindee]

All righty....I'm ready to go. The THs on Ttv this morning seem to think the psych testimony yesterday was bunk The one lady (I can't remember her name...a psychotherapist) said this guy gives shrinks a bad name because he had no business pretending he could analyze information he didn't have.




I wish she was on the pros. witness list to say that.

I liked her a lot...I bet she's a great shrink.

Albee is talking about Dr. Rumack and WHERE IS HE??????????????

[shortcake]

heck! dr. rumack by tomorrow!

[andersson33]

He's sticking to his guns. He wants Rumack.
And Albee's not a happy guy.

[KellBell]

Albee uh uh uh uh uh uh uh stutter much Albee...

[bambam]

omg somebody over there said they reported that post! FGS! those ppl are ridiculous!! oh well, guess i'll be banned AGAIN-- like i CARE! LOL sheeesh!! sorry, no more talk about that!

[shortcake]

don't agree Jambois! Def. is dishonest!

[Sherbie]

Rumack's gonna try to wiggle out of coming back into court via groveling by his attorney. :girl_haha:

[Topaz]

Rumack needs a lawyer === perjury potential!

[mitch]

omg y'all..dh was watching ttv, and said hey i want you to post this for me... and post it on the ctv board. i was like OH NO--he's like yeah, you can tell em it's me, and not you... here's what i wanna say... and proceeded to have me type out this silly little post and put it over there. *sigh* the things i do for him! sheesh!

you large dingdong. you know "you have been reported"

hope your scared IG lmfao.

cervesa for mr. bambam:party52:

[andersson33]

Whoa.

What a day this is turning out to be already.

[kindee]

Albee the Alienator... that should be his title.


When he yells at the judge like he's doing now he looks like the world's biggest 3 year old having a temper fit in Toys-R-Us. I don't know how the judge takes it.

Judge is onto him, though, about his lying witness.

[Topaz]

I wish she was on the pros. witness list to say that.

I liked her a lot...I bet she's a great shrink.

Albee is talking about Dr. Rumack and WHERE IS HE??????????????

Today's guest on Bloom and Politan is excellent. I forget her name, but she
is always right on the button about behavior. I've seen her many many times over the years, and like her very much!

[mitch]

omg somebody over there said they reported that post! FGS! those ppl are ridiculous!! oh well, guess i'll be banned AGAIN-- like i CARE! LOL sheeesh!! sorry, no more talk about that!

lol you know WE have turned into the trolls.

[bambam]

you large dingdong. you know "you have been reported"

hope your scared IG lmfao.

cervesa for mr. bambam:party52:

:67302:i told him he got reported, and he loves it! oh well... another one bites the dust!! LMAO!

[shortcake]

don't cave Jambois, please!! Go Judge! Start the day off right!

[kindee]

Rumack needs a lawyer === perjury potential!




WOOOOOOOT! Talk about a trial within a trial!

GREAT defense case so far Albee!!!! :francis:

Dillard the snitch is more believable than Albee's PAID PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS.

Judge thinks this is bigger than this case; this is HUGE for the whole system when you pay a guy for his testimony and he LIES about it.

"motive to lie, bias...this is saturated with it. To have a person come in here, say the most bizarre things and then lie about how much he was paid for it..." says the judge.

HOLY MOLY Albee and his expert are BUSTED.
"You lie and I'll swear to it" is an old saying my BFF and I have said for decades. But dang, to get caught at it in your CIC? Albee you really don't look too good here buddy.

[andersson33]

Albee be quiet.

[ja77]

Hey Guys:0012:
I missed the last hour of testimony last night and was too tired (surprised) to read the boards last night but what happened? Can someone give me a quick synopsis!!!

[annalyzer]

Good morning everyone. :mornincoffee:

[StoneFox]

:girl_haha: GO JUDGE!!!

Yes, Albee should have his own records and should KNOW what his experts have been paid.

Oh judge...these experts saying the MOST BIZARRE things. :hifive:

Albee is lying, AGAIN!

[andersson33]

Oh my.
You missed SO much!

I wouldn't know where to begin!

[shortcake]

Rumack's testimony is saturated with bias, per judge.

[KellBell]

Good job Judge, FINALLY take control of YOUR courtroom!!!

[kindee]

:girl_haha: GO JUDGE!!!

Yes, Albee should have his own records and should KNOW what his experts have been paid.

Oh judge...these experts saying the MOST BIZARRE things. :hifive:

Albee is lying, AGAIN!



Apparently the judge thinks the "Julie killed herself, if you don't believe me just ask me" testimony from the defense witnesses is bizarre. HEEEEEEEEEE!

Oh, now Albee says the pros. clients were lying too and they should be slapped as well.

Really Albee, you are in a hole and you continue to dig dig dig.

So be it. The jury needs to know your paid experts are bigger liars than the snitches the pros. put on the stand.

[KellBell]

NO prosecution witness has acted like Rumack or Spiros. That's crap Albee!

[andersson33]

If I were an expert witness I'd bring copies of all invoices and cancelled checks.
You know you're going to be asked.
Being evasive and lying leads to this unholy mess.




:girl_haha: GO JUDGE!!!

Yes, Albee should have his own records and should KNOW what his experts have been paid.

Oh judge...these experts saying the MOST BIZARRE things. :hifive:

Albee is lying, AGAIN!

[Kara]

omg somebody over there said they reported that post! FGS! those ppl are ridiculous!! oh well, guess i'll be banned AGAIN-- like i CARE! LOL sheeesh!! sorry, no more talk about that!
The ding dong post?:67302:

[KellBell]

Yeah Judge, tell Albee to rewatch it on camera.

[KellBell]

Judge: I'm in charge here!

[gramvof14]

Today's guest on Bloom and Politan is excellent. I forget her name, but she
is always right on the button about behavior. I've seen her many many times over the years, and like her very much!
Her name is Leslie Austin PHD she is very good.:basic45:

[kellabeck]

Here is Dr Rumack, testifying about his fees:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/Cristi70x7/Spice%20It%20Up/Comedy/funny.jpg

[bambam]

The ding dong post?:67302:

yep! the dingdong post! LOL:67302:

[Kara]

Good job Judge, FINALLY take control of YOUR courtroom!!!
Yeah....the judge has slowly grown on me. :)

[Xmygrits]

*THUMP THUMP THUMP*

"I'm in charge here!" ~ Judge

[bambam]

we are finally lovin this judge! lol bout time!

[Cornblossom]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO

[kellabeck]

"I share blame for that"??? Sorta like Captain Smith should have seen the iceberg??

[KellBell]

:67302:i told him he got reported, and he loves it! oh well... another one bites the dust!! LMAO!


I can be the messenger, no matter what I have posted over there (and I have posted some pretty good stuff that should have been banned) she has never banned me. She has deleted some posts but never been banned. I don't know why.

[andersson33]

:mornincoffee:

:0012::0012::0012:

good morning to you!

[KellBell]

Here is Dr Rumack, testifying about his fees:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/Cristi70x7/Spice%20It%20Up/Comedy/funny.jpg


OUCH!!!

[johnielee333]

:s1gyahoo: good morning all !

[andersson33]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO

Oh responsible one! YOUR judge is being extremely feisty this morning.:)

[dojewo]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO
Now the world knows about the real you Corny! to know you is to love you

[Kara]

Wow...the clerk looks like Miss Jane Hathaway (Beverly Hillbillies)

[Xmygrits]

Albee don't look so good! :girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

:s1gyahoo: good morning all !


GOOD MORNING ALL!~

WOW! We need the fireworks icon already this a.m.!~:basic44:

[bambam]

I can be the messenger, no matter what I have posted over there (and I have posted some pretty good stuff that should have been banned) she has never banned me. She has deleted some posts but never been banned. I don't know why.

well, that's pretty unusual! lol hey, i'm not worried about it. i haven't been posting there anyway.

[shortcake]

i swear i've been stuck on the phone for 10 min and have missed all the arguing.

[kindee]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO




:francis: Obviously he has excellent taste and superb judgment.


:girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

Wow...the clerk looks like Miss Jane Hathaway (Beverly Hillbillies)

OMG!! I said several weeks back!!~

[KellBell]

Wonder if Rumack is going to bill Albee for his lawyer fees for this... :girl_haha:

[StoneFox]

Apparently the judge thinks the "Julie killed herself, if you don't believe me just ask me" testimony from the defense witnesses is bizarre. HEEEEEEEEEE!

Oh, now Albee says the pros. clients were lying too and they should be slapped as well.

Really Albee, you are in a hole and you continue to dig dig dig.

So be it. The jury needs to know your paid experts are bigger liars than the snitches the pros. put on the stand.


Yes, the jury has every right to know. It is standard questioning for expert witnesses. Albee knows it and his experts know it. On the surface, it looks as though they tried to conceal.

Albee's argument about 2002-2003 payments being too far in the past is nothing more than a bunch of baloney. If Albee is that bad at doing his job as a defense attorney, then so be it. It is not the responsibility of the judge to make it right for him.

:eyebrow1qb:

[Topaz]

Here is Dr Rumack, testifying about his fees:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/Cristi70x7/Spice%20It%20Up/Comedy/funny.jpg

Oh I love that graphic....This forum is so creative!

Dr. Rumack is looking more and more like Leslie Nielsen every day! :girl_haha:

[kindee]

GOOD MORNING ALL!~

WOW! We need the fireworks icon already this a.m.!~:basic44:



yeah, talk about starting off with a

BANG!

[mitch]

yep! the dingdong post! LOL:67302:


you need to put that post with that old song.

My ding~a~ling.

[lovelaw]

:francis: Obviously he has excellent taste and superb judgment.


:girl_haha:



INDEED!~:girl_haha:

[Kara]

OMG!! I said several weeks back!!~
Really? I didn't see it...but she sure looks like her. lol

[andersson33]

Wow...the clerk looks like Miss Jane Hathaway (Beverly Hillbillies)

YES!
I was thinking the same thing, but I couldn't think of her name!

She's a hottie, huh?:)

[kindee]

Oh I love that graphic....This forum is so creative!

Dr. Rumack is looking more and more like Leslie Nielsen every day! :girl_haha:




bwahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You are so right!

:67302::67302::67302::67302:

(only not as smart...)...:a1chic:

dang this phone call thingy is HILARIOUS!!!!!!

[KellBell]

Lawyer Springer is probably watching on CNN.com...

[IfIMay]

I can't believe we are back to phoneguy. YIKES.

[gramvof14]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO
Morning Corny you are just in time for the fire works.:happy0207:

[lovelaw]

:mornincoffee: I've loved this judge since he found out about the REAL me LMAO


And we've known it all along!~:girl_haha:

[Kara]

I can't believe we are back to phoneguy. YIKES.
At least we're not getting a close up of the phone. :)

[lovelaw]

Morning Corny you are just in time for the fire works.:happy0207:

It's going to be a gooooood morning.................for SOME of us!!~ LOL!~:0012:

[lovelaw]

At least we're not getting a close up of the phone. :)



:67302:

[andersson33]

Whew.
The Judge is hot.
When he gets really mad, he stays mad.

It's about the truth and nothing but, Mr. Lawyer.

[IfIMay]

At least we're not getting a close up of the phone. :)

THAT was priceless. Too bad Judge Fidler listened to that guy. Gave a bad instruction. Although that juror would never have convicted.

[StoneFox]

:67302: Rumack's attorney making sure Rumack's arse doesn't end up in jail for fasle testimony if Rumack appears in judge's court.

Tell him judge!!!

[kindee]

Lawyer Springer is probably watching on CNN.com...




With the mess this trial has become I thought the judge was calling JERRY Springer! :71541::bump::71541:

[lovelaw]

With the mess this trial has become I thought the judge was calling JERRY Springer! :71541::bump::71541:

HAHAHAHA!~

Ooooooo...Dr. needs to be there tomorrow!!~

[bambam]

wooohooooo go judgey! wow! this really fires him up!!

[shortcake]

Go judge! Don't bend!

[lovelaw]

OOHHHHH!! WE MAY just go the PHONE route!~

[kellabeck]

"What's our last date for getting him there?"
"Tomorrow."

LOL!

[StoneFox]

NO MERCY JUDGE!!!!

I love it. He is totally pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzed about Rumack lying.

NO Judge MAKE him come to court. Make him show his lying face!!

[Kara]

I'm loving the judge.

Question--When is the last day we can arrange to be there?

Answer--Tomorrow

[andersson33]

Tomorrow, tomorrow,
I love ya, tomorrow,
It's only a day away....

:girl_haha:

[Cornblossom]

omg y'all..dh was watching ttv, and said hey i want you to post this for me... and post it on the ctv board. i was like OH NO--he's like yeah, you can tell em it's me, and not you... here's what i wanna say... and proceeded to have me type out this silly little post and put it over there. *sigh* the things i do for him! sheesh!tell him to sign up...I'll be more'n happy to show him the ropes and take care of him LMAO wink wink

[Cornblossom]

OOHHHHH!! WE MAY just go the PHONE route!~
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo...not the phone people!!!!

[StoneFox]

"What's our last date for getting him there?"
"Tomorrow."

LOL!

I wish judge had said TODAY!! He made an order form the bench for Rumack to appear in court today. Rumack ignored that order and now has his attorney speaking on his behalf.

Rumack is :71526:

[bambam]

tell him to sign up...I'll be more'n happy to show him the ropes and take care of him LMAO wink wink

you promise??!! :67302::67302:

[DeeJay]

I see the judge is STILL angry today! :girl_haha:

Who is Mr. Springer? Attorney for Rumack?

[mitch]

Wow...the clerk looks like Miss Jane Hathaway (Beverly Hillbillies)


lol you nailed it.

i was thinking she looked like somebody.

[StoneFox]

Go Jambois...Rumack is retired so it doesn't seem he should have that much on his calendar. :girl_haha:

MAKE Rumack come in to the court room to make amends for his testimony!!

[shortcake]

...snipped

Dr. Rumack is looking more and more like Leslie Nielsen every day! :girl_haha:

Yes he is! Like I said on the forum last night, I bet he will be doing some jive talking on that "Airplane" coming back to WI, and I am hopeful he will be coming back!

[Cornblossom]

you promise??!! :67302::67302:Scouts honor LMAO

[girlfriday]

Mr. Springer was so very respectful. That is the way a lawyer should address the court.

[lovelaw]

Scouts honor LMAO

:67302:

[lovelaw]

Mr. Springer was so very respectful. That is the way a lawyer should address the court.


:zm10:

[kindee]

NO MERCY JUDGE!!!!

I love it. He is totally pizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzed about Rumack lying.

NO Judge MAKE him come to court. Make him show his lying face!!


AND in front of the jury.

What else does Albee have up his sleeve?

So far he's helping the prosecution nail Mark Jensen's cell door shut.

WEAK Albee. WEAK and dishonest. mm mm mm.

[andersson33]

We're getting a long camera shot.
Showed Julie's brothers and her supporters for a change.

[bambam]

Scouts honor LMAO

ya mean like BOY scouts honor??!!:67302::67302: LMAO!

[StoneFox]

Mr. Springer was so very respectful. That is the way a lawyer should address the court.

Especially when you are trying to keep your client out of jail on contempt charges for lying in a court room. :D

[kindee]

Yes he is! Like I said on the forum last night, I bet he will be doing some jive talking on that "Airplane" coming back to WI, and I am hopeful he will be coming back!



Can you IMAGINE the 'tude he's going to be bringing with him? Oh, that should be FUN!!!!!!!:basic44:

Miss Cooper, a coworker of Kelly's????

[kellabeck]

Here's a photo of Craig Albee handling conflict during his teen years
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/ericaroxill3/PICT1109.jpg

[Cornblossom]

Mr. Springer was so very respectful. That is the way a lawyer should address the court.

AND in front of the jury.

What else does Albee have up his sleeve?

So far he's helping the prosecution nail Mark Jensen's cell door shut.

WEAK Albee. WEAK and dishonest. mm mm mm.I think what he had up his sleeve just went down his leg LMAO

[Xmygrits]

Can you IMAGINE the 'tude he's going to be bringing with him? Oh, that should be FUN!!!!!!!:basic44:

Miss Cooper, a coworker of Kelly's????:happy0158: This is getting good! Why, I do believe it is better then a Hollywood movie! AND I get to sit and watch the plot thicken and stew for day's!!!

[shortcake]

Scouts honor LMAO

Corny, did you see when I said that's what Mark would say if asked to testify
Court: Do you solemnly swear...
MJ: Scouts honor!

[kindee]

I think what he had up his sleeve just went down his leg LMAO




:girl_haha:


I really think Albee would have been better off skipping his whole CIC. Saved some money, too! :grin:

[Topaz]

you know these symptoms that Lisa just listed, asking Dr. Austin, her opinion....they can be organic not just psychological.

The family doctor testified and showed on screen that JJ's blood work
showed increased MCV...this is a sign of B12 deficiency which gives the same symptoms as depression. And HE chose not to follow that warning sign with further testing. Many doctors have no clue how insidious and dangerous B12
deficiency really is. I personally think JJ had organic reasons to feel sick, as well as feeling trapped and abused. She could have had that fixed and perhaps found the energy to cope more effectively!.

I don't think we can eliminate organic causes here. I see the family doctor as
very poor in treating Julie.

[bambam]

:girl_haha:


I really think Albee would have been better off skipping his whole CIC. Saved some money, too! :grin:

i agree!

[Cornblossom]

Corny, did you see when I said that's what Mark would say if asked to testify
Court: Do you solemnly swear...
MJ: Scouts honor!:67302:

[kindee]

:happy0158: This is getting good! Why, I do believe it is better then a Hollywood movie! AND I get to sit and watch the plot thicken and stew for day's!!!



Publicly humiliated in front of the jury...that'll teach hired guns to LIE on the stand.

I think the jury is going to dismiss the whole defense case.

Leaving nuttin' but a fat GUILTY behind.

So this woman is going to say Ed Klug didn't tell her about Mark's statements either?

He didn't tell ME either. So I guess it didn't happen. :rolleye0001:

[andersson33]

This is Dawn? As in Klug's "friend."??

[Bayou Lass]

omg somebody over there said they reported that post! FGS! those ppl are ridiculous!! oh well, guess i'll be banned AGAIN-- like i CARE! LOL sheeesh!! sorry, no more talk about that!

BamBam - join the crowd. I like it here better anyway. Why anyone would stay over there is beyond belief.

[shortcake]

I'm skeptical of witnesses who have had the opportunity to listen to others testimony.

[kellabeck]

Shall we guess what she's going to say?
That Mark Jensen never told Ed Klug that he was researching poisons and was going to kill his wife??

[Xmygrits]

Publicly humiliated in front of the jury...that'll teach hired guns to LIE on the stand.

I think the jury is going to dismiss the whole defense case.

Leaving nuttin' but a fat GUILTY behind.

So this woman is going to say Ed Klug didn't tell her about Mark's statements either?

He didn't tell ME either. So I guess it didn't happen. :rolleye0001:

This is the ultimate train wreck for sure!

[kindee]

I don't think we can eliminate organic causes here. I see the family doctor as
very poor in treating Julie.



^snipped^

No doubt Julie was afraid to eat or drink anything Mark had access to. I do think she wasn't eating well---

And I agree the doctor wasn't a good advertisement for himself. If he was my primary physician I'd be looking for another doctor right about now.

[kellabeck]

Is anyone else annoyed by Albee's smacking mouth noise when he starts a question?

[Cornblossom]

Publicly humiliated in front of the jury...that'll teach hired guns to LIE on the stand.

I think the jury is going to dismiss the whole defense case.

Leaving nuttin' but a fat GUILTY behind.

So this woman is going to say Ed Klug didn't tell her about Mark's statements either?

He didn't tell ME either. So I guess it didn't happen. :rolleye0001:I'm betting someone's praying for a HUGE snowstorm for tomorrow lmao

[kindee]

Shall we guess what she's going to say?
That Mark Jensen never told Ed Klug that he was researching poisons and was going to kill his wife??




How in the WORLD can anyone say Mark DIDN'T tell Klug about wanting his wife dead?

You can't prove a negative but it appears THIS is all Albee has.

Weak weak weak.

[kellabeck]

Okay, she was too drunk to drive but not too drunk to remember?

[kindee]

I'm betting someone's praying for a HUGE snowstorm for tomorrow lmao



And it ain't me. :girl_haha:

[Cornblossom]

ya mean like BOY scouts honor??!!:67302::67302: LMAO!girl scout LMAO

[kindee]

Okay, she was too drunk to drive but not too drunk to remember?



And she NEVER left the table. :rolleye0001:

Oh brother.

[IfIMay]

another case of astro-nut diapers?

[shortcake]

I'm betting someone's praying for a HUGE snowstorm for tomorrow lmao
:hifive: or overbooked flights

[kellabeck]

Oh, man! In Session does not think that MSNBC, CNN and ESPN and FAUX covering the Clemens hearing (in the HOUSE, not the Senate as I said earlier erroneously) is enough and they go to it, too.

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