Feb 13 08 Evening Thread State of WI vs. Mark D. Jensen

[twinkiesmom]

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[KellBell]

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[JoolzRoolz]

New thread

Thanks twinkiesmom!

[IfIMay]

did Jambois ask this guy how much he was paid? I missed it if he did.

[KellBell]

Doc's demeanor is totally changed.

[kellabeck]

I think Albee needs to spoon his way to health with VitaMeataVegemin. It's so tasty, too.

Mark's smirk is gone. Me thinks he sees the wall and it's full of writing.

[kindee]

did Jambois ask this guy how much he was paid? I missed it if he did.




I didn't hear it Iffy if he did.

[KellBell]

Question: Doc, how much were you paid for your testimny?
Answer: Not enough after this crap!

:shock:

[kindee]

I think Albee needs to spoon his way to health with VitaMeataVegemin. It's so tasty, too.

Mark's smirk is gone. Me thinks he sees the wall and it's full of writing.


he looks JUST a bit like Darren Mack did when HE realized he was goin' down the tubes for life. :0doh:

[IfIMay]

I didn't hear it Iffy if he did.

Maybe he was afraid he'd have to pay him. He was a great state's witness.

[jcc]

Does anyone know who the dark haired woman next to Mom Jensen? She has been there just about every day.

[JoolzRoolz]

I didn't hear it Iffy if he did.

Me neither. My DSL connection burped right at the end of Jambois's cross.

[KellBell]

I think Albee needs to spoon his way to health with VitaMeataVegemin. It's so tasty, too.

Mark's smirk is gone. Me thinks he sees the wall and it's full of writing.


Mark should just thank his lucky stars that he has had the last 9 years of freedom.

[jcc]

did Jambois ask this guy how much he was paid? I missed it if he did.

No, because he got something better~ A reversal of his original testimony.

[kindee]

Maybe he was afraid he'd have to pay him. He was a great state's witness.



ha yeah. He made a new friend and didn't want to mess it up.

[jcc]

Mark should just thank his lucky stars that he has had the last 9 years of freedom.

They were nine years he didn't deserve.

I can't decide whether it was better or worse for their sons. They had their dad for nine years... but it was Mark Jensen.... and they had to go through this trial at an age that is probably more difficult for them.

Julie's mom and dad were gone. I'm sure one her brothers would have taken those boys in a flash.

[spunkylubbock]

did Jambois ask this guy how much he was paid? I missed it if he did.

I haven't heard either. Hopefully Jammy will get to it in re-cross.

Jammy! My hero!!!

[spunkylubbock]

I think Albee needs to spoon his way to health with VitaMeataVegemin. It's so tasty, too.

Mark's smirk is gone. Me thinks he sees the wall and it's full of writing.

Yep, Marky boy is watching the wall! http://bestsmileys.com/movingeyes/3.gif http://bestsmileys.com/movingeyes/3.gif http://bestsmileys.com/movingeyes/3.gif http://bestsmileys.com/movingeyes/3.gif http://bestsmileys.com/movingeyes/3.gif

[mitch]

did Jambois ask this guy how much he was paid? I missed it if he did.

i didn't hear it either.

[KellBell]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!

[kellabeck]

Right now, Dr Denton is thinking: Wish I had gone for that root canal today.

[IfIMay]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!

:girl_haha:

[mitch]

i hope the judge lets court go to 6 tonight. this doctor has a couple of bodies waiting for him.

[jcc]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!

:zm10:

[DeeJay]

KINDEE! From the other thread.........

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kindee
some expert!!!


I replied:

He could have checked with any one of us on Turner. We're experts on her case. :s1gyahoo:
__________________

[kellabeck]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!
:zm10:

Has Jambois finally wiped the smiles off Ma and Pa J's faces???

[kindee]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!



:hifive:

[spunkylubbock]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!

Oh that's soo good!! http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/8.gif http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/8.gif http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/8.gif

[kindee]

KINDEE! From the other thread.........

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by kindee
some expert!!!


I replied:

He could have checked with any one of us on Turner. We're experts on her case. :s1gyahoo:
__________________


no excuse for ignorance. :duh:

[sciencegirl]

Hired Gun: $18,462.00
Flight: $ 675.00
Hotel: $387.00
Getting the defense witness to turn states witness: PRICELESS!

:67302: Oh; that was great!!!! :grin:

[texaslinda]

Are they through for the day or did I lose the feed???

[KellBell]

:zm10:

Has Jambois finally wiped the smiles off Ma and Pa J's faces???

Ma yes, I haven't seen pa in at least a week. I'm thinking he might be a little embarrassed.

wait, is pa there today? Oh, I didn't see him.

[kindee]

Are they through for the day or did I lose the feed???



Albee is still on redirect.

[sciencegirl]

:attention: Still no verdict in the Cutts trial. Can you believe it???:doh:

[JoolzRoolz]

Are they through for the day or did I lose the feed???

They had a sidebar about some professional doc Albee wanted Dr Denton to read and reference. Looks like the judge allowed Albee to ask if he had ever read it but nothing else about it.

[IfIMay]

take good notes. I gotta drive home. This has been unbelievably great today.

[kellabeck]

Albee brings up Rumack. And I do mean "brings up."

[JoolzRoolz]

:attention: Still no verdict in the Cutts trial. Can you believe it???:doh:


I know! I mean what the heck?

[kindee]

:attention: Still no verdict in the Cutts trial. Can you believe it???:doh:



:shock:

:71526:

[sciencegirl]

take good notes. I gotta drive home. This has been unbelievably great today.

:0012: Be careful. We'll see you tomorrow.

[kindee]

take good notes. I gotta drive home. This has been unbelievably great today.



Take it easy missy! :love0085: Oh, P.A. says why aren't you married yet?

:girl_haha:

[mitch]

that was a stupid ? albee.

[KellBell]

I tell ya, I think Cutts is guilty but I don't know if they proved premeditated murder. Anyone know what evidence they brought on that? I am betting on a lesser charge on that count. But I am a newbie so I probably am wrong.

[mitch]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.

[DeeJay]

Are they through for the day or did I lose the feed???

You lost the feed. they're still going.

[Haz]

Looks to me like this guy is going to side/agree with whoever is questioning him. I'm calling him 'The Waffler'. Sorry, he is not credible to me.

[kindee]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.



I have homework to do, doesn't Albee know that? :22wink:

[mitch]

I tell ya, I think Cutts is guilty but I don't know if they proved premeditated murder. Anyone know what evidence they brought on that? I am betting on a lesser charge on that count. But I am a newbie so I probably am wrong.

i watched only when BC was on the stand, but i think you maybe right about the premediation part. it is a DPcase.

[JoolzRoolz]

Albee is really dragging this on. I think he's trying to reach for anything he can to rehabilitate this witness and it looks like he's got nothing.

[sciencegirl]

She said you might not see me at the next karate; because I expect my doctor will give me antidepressants and antidepressants usually may be sick.

[bambam]

ok you turkeys! i've been booted offline this line this whole time!!!! help! what happened?? im soooo sad!! http://th43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/agate_47/th_crying-1.gif

[spunkylubbock]

On that calling the neighbor thing........was Mark home then? If he was he could have been standing next to Julie making her say that. Then unplugged the phone!

[sciencegirl]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.

I heard this doctor whisper early today to the judge; that he really needed to be home today. He would appreciate if that could be done. The judge said "we'll try"

[JoolzRoolz]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.

Dr Denton said he has autopsies scheduled for tomorrow and I think the judge is trying to allow them to finish up with him today.

[KellBell]

I can't believe the judge didn't just say wait until tomorrow. It is already 5 and he is letting Jam start???

[Sherbie]

I noticed Dr. D. several times qualified his answers to Albee with:

"...based on the information I had/that was given to me..."

:girl_haha:

[sciencegirl]

On that calling the neighbor thing........was Mark home then? If he was he could have been standing next to Julie making her say that. Then unplugged the phone!

I said that about a couple of weeks ago. I think Mark very well could have been there telling Julie to call the neighbor. He probably dialed the number and held the phone to her ear.

[KellBell]

ahh ok I read the other posts about doc needing to wrap up.

[JONOTWO]

The Doc is now back to his previous opinion. Looks like he can change his mind to fit
whatever either pros or def asks him. His testimony is totally worthless.

[KellBell]

Not a problem for me judge, go all night if you want to!!

[jcc]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.


5:30... or a few minutes later

[JoolzRoolz]

I can't believe the judge didn't just say wait until tomorrow. It is already 5 and he is letting Jam start???

Well, it is re-cross. Again, he's trying to allow them to finish up with Dr. Denton as Denton has other obligations tomorrow.

[mitch]

ok im loving this judge more everyday.

he gives me another half hour of pleasure.

[sciencegirl]

Well dang!!!! I can't make it till 5:30. I'm going to go lay down and listen to the rest. I see you all tomorrow.:0012:

[kellabeck]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.

5:30

[JoolzRoolz]

Well dang!!!! I can't make it till 5:30. I'm going to go lay down and listen to the rest. I see you all tomorrow.:0012:


Have a good rest SG! :0012:

[KellBell]

Well dang!!!! I can't make it till 5:30. I'm going to go lay down and listen to the rest. I see you all tomorrow.:0012:

Good night SG!

[bambam]

what IS up?? why are they going this long??

[mitch]

Not a problem for me judge, go all night if you want to!!

girl you are so in for the DT's when this trail comes to an end.LMAO

[mitch]

what IS up?? why are they going this long??

I think because this doc has two autopsies schduled for tomorrow.

[KellBell]

girl you are so in for the DT's when this trail comes to an end.LMAO


DT?

[RayStar]

:attention: Still no verdict in the Cutts trial. Can you believe it???:doh:

NO

[spunkylubbock]

I said that about a couple of weeks ago. I think Mark very well could have been there telling Julie to call the neighbor. He probably dialed the number and held the phone to her ear.

That's what I've always thought. I wish there was some way for Jambois to get into testimony something about whether the phone could be unplugged for the time Mark was gone. I know it's speculation but it makes more sense than some of the stuff Albee has brought up.

[mitch]

DT?
detox tremors.

[DeeJay]

did they decide to extend court today? did i miss it.

Yeah for a bit longer than usual.

[Sherbie]

ok im loving this judge more everyday.

he gives me another half hour of pleasure.

Heck, between the judge and Jambois together the past two days, it's been more fun than a rickety ol' washing machine stuck on the spin cycle. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/linx_79/blush.gif

[johnielee333]

stop winning albee

[annalyzer]

what IS up?? why are they going this long??

You couldn't get on this board all day? :shock:

[RayStar]

Albee "SHUT UP"". Dr. Denton has an autopsy in the am. Hurry up. LOL

[spunkylubbock]

Well dang!!!! I can't make it till 5:30. I'm going to go lay down and listen to the rest. I see you all tomorrow.:0012:

:0012: SG! Take care!

[Swabby]

Not a problem for me judge, go all night if you want to!!

:hifive:

[kindee]

Not a problem for me judge, go all night if you want to!!



I second that motion! :happy0158:

apparently I third or fourth that motion!

Albee is indignant!

[bambam]

detox tremors.

dilirium tremors

[TigressPen]

Go Judge!!! :hifive:

[lovelaw]

I was gone for the last hour and a half! Did I miss anything even HUGE-ER than was going on when I left?? TIA!~

[jcc]

Mr. Albee is losing it...

[lovelaw]

Go Judge!!! :hifive:



Wellll......if this post is indicative of things....all went well!!~

[KellBell]

detox tremors.



http://bestsmileys.com/excited/1.gif

[mitch]

You couldn't get on this board all day? :shock:


bam you looked so sad in that post.

you need us to come and lock mr. bam in the closet until this trail is over.

[kellabeck]

Get out the cheese tray and pass it to Craig.

[KellBell]

Mark is gonna miss his wonderful jailhouse dinner if he gets home too late.

[Sherbie]

Mr. Albee is losing it...

He usually does about this time every day...LOL http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/dadada_hady/crazy.gif

[bambam]

yikes! what happened?

[jcc]

http://th92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/bmahfood/Blog%20Photos/th_temper-tantrum.jpg

ANyone we know?

[TigressPen]

Wellll......if this post is indicative of things....all went well!!~



I loved the way he hushed Albee and just said, bring in the jury. He is standing by his decisions more and more and not changing his mind mid argument.

[lovelaw]

I second that motion! :happy0158:

apparently I third or fourth that motion!

Albee is indignant!

Awwwww...is he incensed by the Judge's unfairness???? BWAHAHAHA

[bambam]

Mark is gonna miss his wonderful jailhouse dinner if he gets home too late.

yeah, i hear they're havin sh*t on a shingle too! YUMMMMY!!! LOL

[lovelaw]

http://th92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/bmahfood/Blog%20Photos/th_temper-tantrum.jpg

ANyone we know?

:67302:

[JoolzRoolz]

http://th92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/bmahfood/Blog%20Photos/th_temper-tantrum.jpg

ANyone we know?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :67302:

[spunkylubbock]

I loved the way he hushed Albee and just said, bring in the jury. He is standing by his decisions more and more and not changing his mind mid argument.

Yep, judge is taking control of his courtroom & he's not as intimidated by Albee & all his appeal objections. Judge has finally found some b**ls!!

[lovelaw]

I loved the way he hushed Albee and just said, bring in the jury. He is standing by his decisions more and more and not changing his mind mid argument.

If he'd have been this adamant throughout he'd have had a heart attack by now!!
Jambois and the witness are getting along swimmingly!!~:happy0158:

[mitch]

I loved the way he hushed Albee and just said, bring in the jury. He is standing by his decisions more and more and not changing his mind mid argument.

he has really changed the last couple of days.

[TigressPen]

http://th92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/bmahfood/Blog%20Photos/th_temper-tantrum.jpg

ANyone we know?



:67302:

[bambam]

he has really changed the last couple of days.

BOUT TIME!!

[kellabeck]

How reasonable is it that this pathologist who investigated EG deaths doesn't know the half life of EG in the blood?

[JoolzRoolz]

How reasonable is it that this pathologist who investigated EG deaths doesn't know the half life of EG in the blood?

I would think not very reasonable.

[lovelaw]

How reasonable is it that this pathologist who investigated EG deaths doesn't know the half life of EG in the blood?


It is UNreasonable!~

[Sherbie]

http://th92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/bmahfood/Blog%20Photos/th_temper-tantrum.jpg

ANyone we know?

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee65/97123/LOL.gif

[TigressPen]

If he'd have been this adamant throughout he'd have had a heart attack by now!!
Jambois and the witness are getting along swimmingly!!~:happy0158:



LOL If anyone just came in to this trial with Jambois cross or recross, they'd think State had called him as a witness. I sometimes find myself just watching and listening and forgetting to post comments on what I am hearing. I get enthralled with what's being said. :francis:

[JoolzRoolz]

In looking at the gallery behind defense it seems like there was a field trip from a retirement community today LOL . The old guy closest to the aisle is starting to creep me out.

[TigressPen]

Isn't .... that .... true?! Said plainly and with passion. :girl_haha:

[TigressPen]

In looking at the gallery behind defense it seems like there was a field trip from a retirement community today LOL . The old guy closest to the aisle is starting to creep me out.



I noticed a couple times the old guy was sitting on edge of chair like he was ready to run if fireworks broke out. LOL

[JoolzRoolz]

Question: what was the point of Jambois asking about Mark's medical records and the nicotrol or whatever that was?

[jcc]

I do feel a tiny bit sorry for Dr. Denton at this point in the day.

[texaslinda]

Isn't .... that .... true?! Said plainly and with passion. :girl_haha:

A lot of actors could take lessons from him...

[bigkitty]

Albee just lied. Borman testified he was sure that Julie called in one of the nicotine meds, not sure on the other. I know that Albee is well aware of that. Albee is full of bull-dinky.

jmo, imo

[kindee]

I was gone for the last hour and a half! Did I miss anything even HUGE-ER than was going on when I left?? TIA!~



not really...albee is getting nowhere with his own witness, and jambois gets another bite if he wants it.

I have a paper to write lovelaw! Tell them to get along with it! :)

[kellabeck]

Question: what was the point of Jambois asking about Mark's medical records and the nicotrol or whatever that was?

Because of internet searches for nicotine info.

[kindee]

Mark is gonna miss his wonderful jailhouse dinner if he gets home too late.




oh, tonight's Wing Wednesday...:a1chic:

[JoolzRoolz]

Because of internet searches for nicotine info.

To try and link the internet searches to Mark? TIA!

[kellabeck]

Suddenly now he knows THAT number?

[kellabeck]

To try and link the internet searches to Mark? TIA!

Yes.

And let's not forget that Dr Borman said on the stand that "JULIE DENIES SMOKING." Meaning he asked her and she said, "No, I don't smoke."

[jcc]

Question: what was the point of Jambois asking about Mark's medical records and the nicotrol or whatever that was?

It is a teeny tiny point.

Dr. Denton said Julie's letter was contrived ~

Jambois was trying to show that the "list" might not have been that obvious to Julie... just 'odd'... because Julie said she didn't know what the list means. Since Mark smoked... 'nicotine' might not have jumped out at her as a way to kill someone.

This doctor thought the list was rather obvious... with items related to killing someone.

But... it is so weird... because it was MARK's list.. and if this doctor thought the list was an obvious list of items to be used to kill someone... you'd think he'd agree with a COD of homicide.

yes... then it got into even more little pieces of the significance.. Mark smoked..

[JoolzRoolz]

I don't know about you guys but I don't think I'll ever forget the half-life of EG in the blood after this LOL . Now if I could only get on a game show where the question was asked...

[annalyzer]

ok I'm lost, trying to care for mom. what are they trying to prove or show?

[Sherbie]

In looking at the gallery behind defense it seems like there was a field trip from a retirement community today LOL . The old guy closest to the aisle is starting to creep me out.

OMG, me too! Started to say something earlier. Has the look of the weird old neighborhood creep who limps up and down the street, scaring and killing all the little children. :eek:

[spunkylubbock]

Denton wants to get this OVER! He seems pizzed at Albee!!!

[kindee]

This was NOT a single dose. Period.

NOT suicide.

[KellBell]

OMG, me too! Started to say something earlier. Has the look of the weird old neighborhood creep who limps up and down the street, scaring and killing all the little children. :eek:


I asked about him yesterday. I wonder if he is a homeless person who came in off the street to stay warm. He picked a good past time. Learning lots and getting entertained at the same time!

[JoolzRoolz]

ok I'm lost, trying to care for mom. what are they trying to prove or show?

I'm starting to get a little lost but I think that pros and defense are going back and forth trying to prove/disprove the multiple dose theory.

Gah! the feed just dropped. Ah it's back whew!

[kellabeck]

I don't know about you guys but I don't think I'll ever forget the half-life of EG in the blood after this LOL . Now if I could only get on a game show where the question was asked...


"I'll take POISON POTPOURRI for $1000, Alex!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/kidzrgr8t/Jeopardy.jpg

[jcc]

Well, it looks like Mr. Jambois has learned a few tricks from Mr. Albee...lol.

[Sherbie]

I asked about him yesterday. I wonder if he is a homeless person who came in off the street to stay warm. He picked a good past time. Learning lots and getting entertained at the same time!

Awww...poor thing. I feel bad for making fun of him now. Could well be the case, I guess. :(

[annalyzer]

"I'll take POISON POTPOURRI for $1000, Alex!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/kidzrgr8t/Jeopardy.jpg


:67302:

[mitch]

:hifive:"I'll take POISON POTPOURRI for $1000, Alex!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/kidzrgr8t/Jeopardy.jpg

[jcc]

I'm starting to get a little lost but I think that pros and defense are going back and forth trying to prove/disprove the multiple dose theory.

Gah! the feed just dropped. Ah it's back whew!

Yep... but, I think they are over caught up in it. But, gotta admit... Mr. Jambois persistence has paid off. I guess he just doesn't want to quit when the going is good.

[kindee]

"I'll take POISON POTPOURRI for $1000, Alex!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/kidzrgr8t/Jeopardy.jpg




You hit the daily double!!!!!

Who is...Lynn Turner?????

[JoolzRoolz]

"I'll take POISON POTPOURRI for $1000, Alex!"
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/kidzrgr8t/Jeopardy.jpg

:67302:

[mitch]

i hope they still argue after court.

[KellBell]

ooohhh the doc looks so happy he is done.

[jcc]

Whew! What a day. Off to dinner and my daughter's voice lesson! See you tomorrow for sure!

[JoolzRoolz]

ooohhh the doc looks so happy he is done.

He's probably goin to peel out of that parking lot faster than Dr. Mainland did LOL .

[mitch]

oh albee doesn't disappoint.

are we all going to have to drink.

lets see

[TigressPen]

I don't know about you guys but I don't think I'll ever forget the half-life of EG in the blood after this LOL . Now if I could only get on a game show where the question was asked...


Yep. Those who paid attention in this trial would make a mint! LOL

[kellabeck]

You hit the daily double!!!!!

Who is...Lynn Turner?????

You could write a whole bunch of answers/questions!

Is Albee gonna move for a MISTRIAL??

[JoolzRoolz]

So is the start of court delayed tomorrow or ending early? I wasn't paying attention...

[KellBell]

Sound please!! Thank you!

[twinkiesmom]

I asked about him yesterday. I wonder if he is a homeless person who came in off the street to stay warm. He picked a good past time. Learning lots and getting entertained at the same time!

I vote for a Jensen grandparent or great uncle...only the good die young.

[KellBell]

get your drink refreshed, I think we need to drink in a minute....

[shortcake]

Darn!! I didn't know the trial was still on! Haven't been able to get my helpfindthemissing page to load (had to run out unexpectedly to get my daughter) thought I'd check the mediafile just on the chance it was running long...mediafile loaded in time to here the judge say they jury had earned thir $20 today...Mannnn!

[kindee]

You could write a whole bunch of answers/questions!

Is Albee gonna move for a MISTRIAL??



yeah!! We could make us one sick game show could we not?

:hifive:

[KellBell]

Jambois should have known better than to use that horses and zebras line cuz judge ruled against it the last time he said it.

[kellabeck]

I vote for a Jensen grandparent or great uncle...only the good die young.

:grin:

[spunkylubbock]

Here Comes The Mistrial Request!!!!

ETA: I'm shocked Albee didn't ask for a mistrial today!

[kindee]

get your drink refreshed, I think we need to drink in a minute....



hahaha! Just filled up my Diet Cherry Coke! :party52:

[mitch]

finally judge is spanking albee.

lmao, get dr borman i'll give him a ride.

[TigressPen]

ooohhh the doc looks so happy he is done.





He deserves a big steak for dinner!! :francis:

[kellabeck]

yeah!! We could make us one sick game show could we not?

:hifive:

Let's try a few!!

Who is that speaking?

[Alibar]

he has really changed the last couple of days.

Maybe he's reading about his behavior and decided to shape up. :basic45:

[Swabby]

ROTFLMAO,

Now Albee is crying about zebras & horses.

Swabby

[kellabeck]

Maybe he's reading about his behavior and decided to shape up. :basic45:

If that were the case he would get rid of the LaZBoy!

[KellBell]

what happened????

[JoolzRoolz]

And.... we're out.

As usual it was really fun hanging out with you guys today! See you all tomorrow!

:0012:

[TigressPen]

Let's try a few!!

Who is that speaking?


The whiner!!

[TigressPen]

And.... we're out.

As usual it was really fun hanging out with you guys today! See you all tomorrow!

:0012:


Have a good night. See ya tomorrow!!

[kellabeck]

Kindee--- For $500-- in POISON POTPOURRI

Stella Nickell killed two people after adding cyanide to this OTC medicine.

[KellBell]

well that sucks,

[mitch]

If that were the case he would get rid of the LaZBoy!

man that is one hell of a chair. bet it cost a pretty penny.

[bigkitty]

Goodnight everybody!:happy0207:

What an awesome day for the prosecution ... and especially for the prospect of Julie getting JUSTICE!:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo:

jmo, imo, etc.

[kindee]

Let's try a few!!

Who is that speaking?




We need 5 categories. Women Poisoners...Serial Killers...Deadly Doctors...HA!

I have to go do Real Life but this could be real fun!

[spunkylubbock]

Kindee--- For $500-- in POISON POTPOURRI

Stella Nickell killed two people after adding cyanide to this OTC medicine.

What is Tylenol????????

[KellBell]

Kindee--- For $500-- in POISON POTPOURRI

Stella Nickell killed two people after adding cyanide to this OTC medicine.

KellBell ringing in.... What is Excedrin

[mitch]

gotta do the homework dinner thing.

BBlater.

[kellabeck]

We need 5 categories. Women Poisoners...Serial Killers...Deadly Doctors...HA!

I have to go do Real Life but this could be real fun!

Tomorrow let's have everyone list their Dream Jeopardy categories (a la Cliff Claven!!!)

[TigressPen]

Time for me to sign out, finish preparing dinner, and get grandbabies feed. Mom is getting a needed night off and watching a movie with friends.


Need to finish reading all the threads and catching up with what I missed today too.

See you guys tomorrow.

[kindee]

What is Tylenol????????




She got the cyanide from fish tank algae cleaner, no?

Oh, we need to do this.

[kellabeck]

KellBell ringing in.... What is Excedrin

BING BING BING!!!!

[kindee]

Tomorrow let's have everyone list their Dream Jeopardy categories (a la Cliff Claven!!!)



I'm in. I think it needs to be a thread on the main board. Oh, yeah.

:hifive:

[kellabeck]

She got the cyanide from fish tank algae cleaner, no?

Oh, we need to do this.

It was the algae-cide that did her in!! YES!!

[kellabeck]

I'm in. I think it needs to be a thread on the main board. Oh, yeah.

:hifive:

Let's discuss tomorrow!!

[girlfriday]

Right now, Dr Denton is thinking: Wish I had gone for that root canal today.

:girl_haha:

[KellBell]

BING BING BING!!!!


I saw that one on forensic files I think.

[spunkylubbock]

Goodnight everybody!:happy0207:

What an awesome day for the prosecution ... and especially for the prospect of Julie getting JUSTICE!:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo:

jmo, imo, etc.

Nite bigkitty! Nite all!:love0085::0012::000a1::friends3::happy0207:

[kellabeck]

Night, everybody!!

[spunkylubbock]

She got the cyanide from fish tank algae cleaner, no?

Oh, we need to do this.

Correct! Her husband's death was ruled heart disease maybe? To get the double indemnity insurance payment she needed his cause of death to be an accident or something.....don't remember exactly what. So she killed someone else so her husband's case could be re-opened & she could get more insurance money.

[Swabby]

I can't wait to see Dr. Rumack tomorrow. I have the feeling that we haven't even seen attitude yet.

LOL

Swabby

[Details]

Most experts are hired to deliver for the side that hired them; but in actuallity; they are there to tell the truth; no matter which side it favors. I think this guy gave his testimony based on his truth of the evidence he was giving; even though it favored the defense. Though on cross; he finds out he wasn't given all of the information he needed to make an informed opinion. I sure don't think it's his fault if his career is sunk.Just wanted to address this a little, agree with you - I think the expert did mostly the right thing.

In the ideal world, experts are not about bias, nor being paid for filtered testimony. They testify as to how their knowledge applies to the facts. The attorneys select the experts whose knowledge applies to their theory of the case. So, in a case where the question is, suicide by EG or murder, an EG expert would be called to testify how compatible with EG the death is - as a neutral scientist, called by the defense because his knowledge and expertise relates to the point they want to make. Of course, the expert may look at the evidence the defense sends them, and disagree with the defense - in which case they would be unlikely to call him - just pay for the time spent, and go your separate ways.

My point here is that it is not the expert's job to go hunting for more evidence, for the facts of the case. They take what is sent to them, and render their expert opinion on the info provided. They're not experts in Internet searching, nor should they look at media reports - they need to try to only form an opinion based on the source materials, not reports.

When the expert testifies, it is the job of the opposing attorney to add missing information, correct any misinformation that the expert may be basing their opinion on. To me - he did a fair job there. He said, when asked, by either attorney, what his opinion would be, based on a particular set of facts. Naturally that opinion varies based on the set of facts. He did go a bit too far on the letter and such - but mostly he stuck to his job, which is a simple matter of giving an expert opinion based on a set of data.


Of course, in the real world, some are always willing to corrupt their ethics for money, and a defense attorney with no good case is going to look for these people to testify, look to people who have done so in other cases - if you are a corrupt expert, you know that when someone contracts with you to look at their evidence, if your opinion is that they're guilty - that's it - no more money for you! Oddly enough, it's always pretty obvious in their testimony because their opinion does not vary with different facts, hypothetical or not - they've lost their objectivity and become an advocate - which means they are no longer of any use (in scientific terms) as an expert. But I think this was an honest expert - he got info, testified as to what conclusions he'd reach based on that info.





By the way - a request - I read on this case, but cannot watch it. If anyone can take pity on me, and provide a bit more info about the funny remarks everyone laughs at, the testimony - I'd loooove it.

[girlfriday]

It is a teeny tiny point.

Dr. Denton said Julie's letter was contrived ~

Jambois was trying to show that the "list" might not have been that obvious to Julie... just 'odd'... because Julie said she didn't know what the list means. Since Mark smoked... 'nicotine' might not have jumped out at her as a way to kill someone.

This doctor thought the list was rather obvious... with items related to killing someone.

But... it is so weird... because it was MARK's list.. and if this doctor thought the list was an obvious list of items to be used to kill someone... you'd think he'd agree with a COD of homicide.

yes... then it got into even more little pieces of the significance.. Mark smoked..


I can't remember what was on the list. Anyone remember?

thanks in advance

[StoneFox]

:happy0207: Hi All

I missed almost the entire afternoon testimony. Have been reading here to see what I missed. Looks like another banner day for the prosecution.

Wish I could have seen Albee's own witness getting frustrated with him. :girl_haha:

Tomorrow should be a jewel with Rumack back. Judge is so pizzzzzzzzzzed at him, I predict NO patience and a public flogging. :D

[DeeJay]

I can't wait to see Dr. Rumack tomorrow. I have the feeling that we haven't even seen attitude yet.

LOL

Swabby

Same here!!! I can't wait for Rumack to splain his fees. :girl_haha:

The judge was so pizzed this morning.

[Swabby]

((snipped))

By the way - a request - I read on this case, but cannot watch it. If anyone can take pity on me, and provide a bit more info about the funny remarks everyone laughs at, the testimony - I'd loooove it.


Details,

The only instance I know about for sure from today when they all broke out laughing, was right after the last break.

Before that...Out of the jury's sight, Albee was arguing that Denton couldn't read the other doctor's notes, because even that doctor couldn't read his own notes. (forgot the other doctor's name, sorry) But the Judge said, 'who knows, show me doctor stuff, I probably couldn't read a word, but IF you (Albee) gave me pages of your legal scribble, I could probably figure most of it out.'

Well, when the jury came back in and Denton was being questioned by Jambois, he was reading all of the other doctor's notes. Jambois asked him how he could do that, and he said that he took a class.

The judge erupted in laughter and the others followed.

Swabby

[DeeJay]

Jambois asking RUMACK about his fees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWl7WE_tjWY

About 5:35 minutes into the tape. (Screen goes dark a few minutes into it but the audio is clear.)

[andersson33]

She got the cyanide from fish tank algae cleaner, no?

Oh, we need to do this.

It's been 25 years since the 1982 Tylenol murders in the Chicago suburbs.
The Janus family (3 died) lived on the next block from us, in Arlington Heights, Illinois.

That was the beginning of a horribly frightening time, as you can imagine.
It was from our local grocery store, Jewel Foods, that they found more tainted Tylenol.

It was in September when it happened, and all us parents were terrified of Halloween--as in, would anyone spike our children's candy or worse?
It was the first of many Halloweens that parents accompanied their kids, no matter the age, on their Trick or Treat night--and NO opening or eating of the candy until we got it home and dumped it on the kitchen and went through all of it. Anything unsealed got thrown out.

No cyanide or other poisons were found in Arlington Heights, but there were apples with razor blades found in several kids bags.

My daughter was 7 that year. Her dad and I covered her that Halloween like white on rice.

And it's a Cold Case, these murders. No one has been charged in what would be 7 murders that day in Arlington Heights and a neighboring town.

That awful day in September 1982 marked the beginning of the 'end of the innocence' for a lot of people everywhere, young and old alike.

And the killer might still be out on the streets walking free, and doing who-knows-what to innocent people anywhere.

This is one Cold Case I'd really like to see solved.

:1222423:

[shortcake]

...snipped...

Well, when the jury came back in and Denton was being questioned by Jambois, he was reading all of the other doctor's notes. Jambois asked him how he could do that, and he said that he took a class....snip



So do you think by his statement "I took a class", he was simply saying it was in a different language that was maybe familiar to drs but not lothers? And if so were the other drs who were claiming their handwriting was so bad just lying saying they couldn't read it to avoid answering questions by the pros? I have to say, I found it very odd during testimony by the other drs that they would say they couldn't read their own handwriting when the pros. was asking questions, but could spew off all sorts of answers when the def. was asking questions.

[Swabby]

So do you think by his statement "I took a class", he was simply saying it was in a different language that was maybe familiar to drs but not lothers? And if so were the other drs who were claiming their handwriting was so bad just lying saying they couldn't read it to avoid answering questions by the pros? I have to say, I found it very odd during testimony by the other drs that they would say they couldn't read their own handwriting when the pros. was asking questions, but could spew off all sorts of answers when the def. was asking questions.


I'm not sure. I thought laziness/possible deception on the Defense Drs. in the beginning, but I just tried to read a grocery list for my poor husband, and until I need whatever is on that list, needless to say, we ain't getting it. :D

Swabby

[Details]

I think to some degree, reading unfamiliar terminology in bad handwriting may be impossible, where reading familiar terminology in bad handwriting may be far simpler. I'm not sure about a class though.

[dojewo]

Good evening all, I'm about to watch American Idol but just wanted to know if anything really big happened this afternoon?

[shortcake]

Understood, Swabby.

I got bumped off the mediafile around 4:15 (trial time) and had to fly out the door in a whirlwind to pick up my daughter who I thought my son was picking up. Thinking court was done when I returned 40 min. later I waited to try to get back to read what I'd missed. Well, I couldn't get the msg. board to load, so I thought for kicks I'd tried to load the mediafile. Immediately Jambois voice came on so I thought, we'll gee aren't I lucky, the feed must have stuck and now I'll hear what I missed. About that time the judge told the dr. he could step down and told the jury they'd earned their $20 for the day. Oh well.

[DeeJay]

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=16234&section=news&subsection=localnews&title=AUDIO_Day_8_Cutts_Trial_Has_The_Jury_Reached


Jury thinks they'll have a verdict on Thursday. :0009:

[jcc]

I can't remember what was on the list. Anyone remember?

thanks in advance
No, but I swear I've seen the photo of it on the Internet somewhere... maybe it was just in the testimony. I'm going to try later on tonight to track it down. It has to be somewhere! I'm curious, too. All I remember for sure is syringes.

I think it would probably be in Kosman's testimony...I may look for those on youtube.

[shortcake]

I think to some degree, reading unfamiliar terminology in bad handwriting may be impossible, where reading familiar terminology in bad handwriting may be far simpler. I'm not sure about a class though.I get what you are saying, Details. I was thinking of maybe a Latin class which I believe doctor's have to take. But then I've heard some legal terms are latin, so maybe lawyers have to take it too. :z0tdntknw:

[gramvof14]

omg My sons and my grand-daughter came over this afternoon and I missed it all BWAAAAAAAA:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe I can't believe it.

[DeeJay]

omg My sons and my grand-daughter came over this afternoon and I missed it all BWAAAAAAAA:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe I can't believe it.

Don't they know you have a case in court? :67302: And they should visit on weekends and holidays?

[shortcake]

omg My sons and my grand-daughter came over this afternoon and I missed it all BWAAAAAAAA:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe I can't believe it.

Oh gram, I'm so sorry! Guess I won't complain for missing the last hour anymore then.

[DeeJay]

Monday's a holiday.........President's Day.....I don't think court will be in session. Have to wait until Tuesday for Closings......IF they are on the schedule the judge thinks they are.

[IfIMay]

I've never seen such an inspired cross. masterful. The way he began with all the evidence that the doc didn't know or consider. Jambois fought for Julie today. That, at least, should give her brothers a bit of peace.

[StoneFox]

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=16234&section=news&subsection=localnews&title=AUDIO_Day_8_Cutts_Trial_Has_The_Jury_Reached


Jury thinks they'll have a verdict on Thursday. :0009:

Cool. They've reached a verdict on the murder charge, but are having trouble with the lesser charges. That shouldn't take too much longer.

Thanks for the update DeeJay :happy0207:

[DeeJay]

Cool. They've reached a verdict on the murder charge, but are having trouble with the lesser charges. That shouldn't take too much longer.

Thanks for the update DeeJay :happy0207:

I am a bit confused why the jury wanted to replace a juror with an alternate and the judge said during deliberations, a juror can't be replaced. :shock:

What are alternates for in OH? :confused:

[Orchid Corsage]

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=16234&section=news&subsection=localnews&title=AUDIO_Day_8_Cutts_Trial_Has_The_Jury_Reached


Jury thinks they'll have a verdict on Thursday. :0009:

-from above link-

"The jury also asked the judge if they already had a verdict to count one, involving the actual murder of Jessie Davis, and signed off on it, then a juror needed replaced during Thursday's deliberations, does an alternate take their place? And do they re-deliberate? Judge Brown replied that no alternate can be substituted for a juror during deliberations."

Isn't this a strange question? Is the jury thinking, they are going to lose a juror? LOL One of them has something else to do? Or What? :duh: LOL well maybe I'm nuts, but this is wierd!

[Orchid Corsage]

HI! :happy0207:

I have read thru the last 6 pages.

How did court end?

Is Denton free to return to ILL for

his autopsys?

Denton dismissed? or more to come?

Sorry to be a pain, but I couldn't tell! :duh: lol :duh:

[IfIMay]

I think Denton is finished. Rumack will be back to answer his billing issues. Not sure after that. But I just got that from reading. I missed the end.

[Orchid Corsage]

I think Denton is finished. Rumack will be back to answer his billing issues. Not sure after that. But I just got that from reading. I missed the end.

Thanks IfImay :) I had to leave early.

WOW, I thought he would be on cross/recross re re re re re till the cows came home! LOL

I'm looking forward to hear from Rumack, Mr. $18,000and some, plus expenses! :hifive:

[DeeJay]

-from above link-

"The jury also asked the judge if they already had a verdict to count one, involving the actual murder of Jessie Davis, and signed off on it, then a juror needed replaced during Thursday's deliberations, does an alternate take their place? And do they re-deliberate? Judge Brown replied that no alternate can be substituted for a juror during deliberations."

Isn't this a strange question? Is the jury thinking, they are going to lose a juror? LOL One of them has something else to do? Or What? :duh: LOL well maybe I'm nuts, but this is wierd!

I think it sounds odd, too.....see my post below. Why do they have alternates if they can't use them? :doh:

[Orchid Corsage]

I am a bit confused why the jury wanted to replace a juror with an alternate and the judge said during deliberations, a juror can't be replaced. :shock:

What are alternates for in OH? :confused:

DeeJay, I kinda remember hearing on trutv, the alternates were dismissed when deliberations began. Might be a reason why a juror can't be replaced.

If so, that is whacky! :doh:

[Orchid Corsage]

I think it sounds odd, too.....see my post below. Why do they have alternates if they can't use them? :doh:

I guess they are for only while the trial itself is going on. :0009: Not deliberations.

I tried to search for an answer, looks like there have been some problems about the alternate jurors/court cases/deliberations and all, but nothing I could find which explained it. o well, I do believe I heard, the alternates were being dismissed tho. Maybe the sitting jurors didn't know that. :confused:

[DeeJay]

DeeJay, I kinda remember hearing on trutv, the alternates were dismissed when deliberations began. Might be a reason why a juror can't be replaced.

If so, that is whacky! :doh:

I've seen alternates let go in some other trials and I am like :shock:

What if one or some jurors get sick or have a family emergency? ( It does happen, too. ) I guess it goes to a mistrial. Then the defendant gets a do over.

[spunkylubbock]

I've never seen such an inspired cross. masterful. The way he began with all the evidence that the doc didn't know or consider. Jambois fought for Julie today. That, at least, should give her brothers a bit of peace.

You're soooo right! Jambois showed his passion for this case today. He also showed how knowledgeable he was on all the key facts, technical data, etc. I've never seen a cross like that! He kept firing away point after point! Jambois is my hero!!!

[shortcake]

Thanks IfImay :) I had to leave early.

WOW, I thought he would be on cross/recross re re re re re till the cows came home! LOL

I'm looking forward to hear from Rumack, Mr. $18,000and some, plus expenses! :hifive:

Rumack was rather arrogant too though. I'm thinking after seeing what that expert got away with on Monday that Rumack will be quite testy himself on Thursday. Will he just have to answer to the Judge about false/misleading testimony, or will Jambois have to question him again. Inquiring minds want to know.

[spunkylubbock]

Rumack was rather arrogant too though. I'm thinking after seeing what that expert got away with on Monday that Rumack will be quite testy himself on Thursday. Will he just have to answer to the Judge about false/misleading testimony, or will Jambois have to question him again. Inquiring minds want to know.

I'm wondering about that too. I guess we'll just have to wait & see.:z0tdntknw: I would guess all he can be questioned on is the billing question & since he lied, he'd better be contrite. I'm not expecting him to be accomodating but we can hope!:shock:

[gramvof14]

Hi everyone I am going to lock my doors and not answer the phone tomorrow I can't miss anymore J/K can't do that to my kids. OH well I guess I will survive it.haha:duh:

[mitch]

just getting back to the board after "family time". going back to read some pages but if anybody is still around what is the next trial were going to. i was hoping Eintwistle, but i think gram told me it's not a go until june 3rd. anybody know the next one up.

[spunkylubbock]

just getting back to the board after "family time". going back to read some pages but if anybody is still around what is the next trial were going to. i was hoping Eintwistle, but i think gram told me it's not a go until june 3rd. anybody know the next one up.

Mitch!! I love your avatar!:basic44: That is soooo cool!!!:francis:

I don't know what the next trial is......sorry.:0009:

ETA: I was talking about the one with all the people dancing!

[mitch]

Mitch!! I love your avatar!:basic44: That is soooo cool!!!:francis:

I don't know what the next trial is......sorry.:0009:

ETA: I was talking about the one with all the people dancing!

lol was scanning and changing avatars. they sure are fun.

wish entiwhistle wasn't delayed because it would have been right on the heels of this one.

oh well we'll find one.

[mitch]

btw my son patrick likes yours and corny's avatars the best.

[Pinkypoo]

Is dr. Airplane suppose to be first up tomorrow? Did Albee say who else he was putting up?

[spunkylubbock]

btw my son patrick likes yours and corny's avatars the best.

Thanks! I fell in love with this little fella as soon as I saw him. I'm a dog person so it fits me. I think corny's is a little better though......drumming those paws is the best ever!:girl_haha:

[spunkylubbock]

Is dr. Airplane suppose to be first up tomorrow? Did Albee say who else he was putting up?

I have some kind of vague memory of "character" witnesses for Mark. I don't know when Dr Airplane is scheduled to show up. Personally, I hope he had to fly in tonight at the highest fare possible, pay an over-priced rate for a hotel room & has caviar for breakfast! I'd like to see as much of ma & pa's $$$$ spent as possible! That means less left for the appeal.

[shortcake]

Can't hang around but I wonder what happened to corny, she wasn't around long after lunch. Always miss her wit when she doesn't post for a little while.

As far as witnesses, the only one I remember Albee talking about is the other character witness against Dillard. Guess we'll see in another 8 hrs. or so. Sure hope there's no connection problems tomorrow. I got cheated out a little at the end today.

Nite folks!

[mitch]

Thanks! I fell in love with this little fella as soon as I saw him. I'm a dog person so it fits me. I think corny's is a little better though......drumming those paws is the best ever!:girl_haha:


both of them are great. love the cat it fits corny's devious personality and love the pup it fits your fun loving personaltiy too.

[mitch]

Is dr. Airplane suppose to be first up tomorrow? Did Albee say who else he was putting up?


i don't know if he is first up, but he will be back on the stand tomorrow. i don't know that albee said who else he was calling. i guess though that we are sure that MJ is not going to take the stand.

IMO big mistake.

[Pinkypoo]

Well I sure don't know who is gonna speak up for MJ from around here. LOL
Must be someone from out of town!

[Orchid Corsage]

Well I sure don't know who is gonna speak up for MJ from around here. LOL
Must be someone from out of town!

Pinkypoo has spoken! :s1gyahoo: LOL

I don't feel one itty bitty bit sorry for him either! :lex_10:

[mitch]

good night anybody that still up. see you in the morning.

[kellabeck]

Correct! Her husband's death was ruled heart disease maybe? To get the double indemnity insurance payment she needed his cause of death to be an accident or something.....don't remember exactly what. So she killed someone else so her husband's case could be re-opened & she could get more insurance money.

His death was ruled natural (emphysema) and wouldn't double her pay out. She tampered with more Excedrin and killed Sue Snow, a total stranger, then alerted LE and gave them TWO bottles of tainted capsules which she said she bought in TWO DIFFERENT STORES.

LE thought the odds that she would buy TWO of the FIVE tainted bottles in Seattle area to be incredibly long and began to look at her.

Stella still claims to be "innocent."