Verdict Watch February19, 2008 AFTERNOON

[DeeJay]

Now Can You Hear Me?

[JoolzRoolz]

Can't hear you but I sure can read you LOL .

[KellBell]

Thanks Deejay! I was lurking waiting to jump on the new thread.

[Cornblossom]

NEW YORK – This week, Jean Casarez continues our gavel-to-gavel coverage of Wisconsin v. Mark Jensen. Closing arguments took place Monday and now jurors are deliberating the fate of 48-year-old Jensen, accused of poisoning his wife, Julie, with ethylene glycol, the main ingredient in antifreeze. He faces life in a Wisconsin prison if convicted.



Mark Jensen’s murder trial is winding down.
We also have producers covering trials in Florida and Colorado, where Shawna Nelson, the wife of a sheriff’s investigator, is accused of first-degree murder in the killing of a fellow cop’s wife. Prosecutors say Nelson was angry when Ignacio Garraus ended their affair, and allegedly shot his wife, Heather. Both trials will air on In Session in the future.

Next week, correspondent Beth Karas returns to Canton, Ohio, for In Session’s coverage of the penalty phase in the case of former police officer Bobby Cutts Jr., convicted of double murder in the death of Jessie Davis and her unborn daughter.

Jurors will hear testimony from prosecution and defense witnesses and then decide if Cutts will be sentenced to death, or spend the rest of his life in prison.

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/

[JoolzRoolz]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:

[lovelaw]

Now Can You Hear Me?

LOUD AND CLEAR!~
:s1gyahoo:

[tbrito1]

:girl_sad:phew, thought you all had left me alone in here!!!!

[lovelaw]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:


:67302::67302::67302:

[lovelaw]

Thanks Corny!!

[cavimom]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:
:67302::67302:

Grouped by Circumfrance...............................


of thier heads! :22wink: Just something about those balding men! Makes me flush! :shock:

[DeeJay]

Thanks Deejay! I was lurking waiting to jump on the new thread.

I had posted in bold red we were over 800 posts and if someone would start a new thread but AS PERUSUAL..........NO ONE PAYS ME ANY MIND!
:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe:118760340 8.CR.Mothe

[kindee]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:


:girl_haha: ALL those cybervisits to www.What'sundertherobe.sidebar


HEEEEEEE!

[bambam]

well folks, i GOT to get some stuff done today--but i'll be checking in and out of course! later!

btw-- i finally got some sleep last nite!! about 5 hours anyway... and that's a good thing! :)

:0012::0012::0012:

[cavimom]

:girl_sad:phew, thought you all had left me alone in here!!!!


That was quick.. i have whiplash! :shock:

[tbrito1]

well folks, i GOT to get some stuff done today--but i'll be checking in and out of course! later!

btw-- i finally got some sleep last nite!! about 5 hours anyway... and that's a good thing! :)

:0012::0012::0012:

see ya later bambam!!!

[cavimom]

well folks, i GOT to get some stuff done today--but i'll be checking in and out of course! later!

btw-- i finally got some sleep last nite!! about 5 hours anyway... and that's a good thing! :)

:0012::0012::0012:

C U later! :basic45:

[cavimom]

:girl_haha: ALL those cybervisits to www.What'sundertherobe.sidebar


HEEEEEEE!

:girl_haha::girl_haha: and im such a dumb blonde I CLICKED IT! :67302:

[kindee]

some jurors had 5 notebooks! Can you imagine taking all those notes and then NOT being allowed to be in on the decision? ACK ACK ACK ACK

[StoneFox]

NEW YORK – This week, Jean Casarez continues our gavel-to-gavel coverage of Wisconsin v. Mark Jensen. Closing arguments took place Monday and now jurors are deliberating the fate of 48-year-old Jensen, accused of poisoning his wife, Julie, with ethylene glycol, the main ingredient in antifreeze. He faces life in a Wisconsin prison if convicted.



Mark Jensen’s murder trial is winding down.
We also have producers covering trials in Florida and Colorado, where Shawna Nelson, the wife of a sheriff’s investigator, is accused of first-degree murder in the killing of a fellow cop’s wife. Prosecutors say Nelson was angry when Ignacio Garraus ended their affair, and allegedly shot his wife, Heather. Both trials will air on In Session in the future.

Next week, correspondent Beth Karas returns to Canton, Ohio, for In Session’s coverage of the penalty phase in the case of former police officer Bobby Cutts Jr., convicted of double murder in the death of Jessie Davis and her unborn daughter.

Jurors will hear testimony from prosecution and defense witnesses and then decide if Cutts will be sentenced to death, or spend the rest of his life in prison.

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/


Colorado? I wonder where? I'll google it. Depending on the location, I could go to that one.

[Cat]

I had posted in bold red we were over 800 posts and if someone would start a new thread but AS PERUSUAL..........NO ONE PAYS ME ANY MIND!
:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe:118760340 8.CR.Mothe

I have that same problem, DeeJay. It's just that things more SO FAST here.

[Xmygrits]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:

Which way does the grouping go? Tall to short or short to tall? I'm just seein which page numbers I will be requesting!

[kindee]

:girl_haha::girl_haha: and im such a dumb blonde I CLICKED IT! :67302:



OHHHHHHHHH that's hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! You wanted to see what's under the robe didn't you?????? :girl_haha:

[tbrito1]

:girl_haha::girl_haha: and im such a dumb blonde I CLICKED IT! :67302:

me too and i'm not even blonde!!!!:girl_sad:

[DeeJay]

QUESTION!!

Are they (JUDGE & ATTORNEYS) at lunch and coming back?

I've been busy doing things around the house.

TIA!

[lost indie]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:

Fess up Joolz....

theyd be grouped by gavel size...

:grin:

:happy0158:

[Xmygrits]

well folks, i GOT to get some stuff done today--but i'll be checking in and out of course! later!

btw-- i finally got some sleep last nite!! about 5 hours anyway... and that's a good thing! :)

:0012::0012::0012:

:0012: Bam, hurry back!

[tbrito1]

Which way does the grouping go? Tall to short or short to tall? I'm just seein which page numbers I will be requesting!

gurth!!!

[cavimom]

OHHHHHHHHH that's hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! You wanted to see what's under the robe didn't you?????? :girl_haha:

:67302: to both of you!

[cavimom]

Fess up Joolz....

theyd be grouped by gavel size...

:grin:

:happy0158:
:67302:

[tbrito1]

Kindee what's WWCD?

[DeeJay]

I have that same problem, DeeJay. It's just that things more SO FAST here.

I skirt thru all posts on each thread.

When I post in BOLD RED HOW CAN ANYONE MISS IT? :0009:

[Cornblossom]

Colorado? I wonder where? I'll google it. Depending on the location, I could go to that one.
Greeley http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/11003582/detail.html

[twinkiesmom]

I had posted in bold red we were over 800 posts and if someone would start a new thread but AS PERUSUAL..........NO ONE PAYS ME ANY MIND!
:1187603408.CR.Mothe:1187603408.CR.Mothe:118760340 8.CR.Mothe

I started one yesterday and stepped on someone's toes...so I held off today.:71526:

[kindee]

Fess up Joolz....

theyd be grouped by gavel size...

:grin:

:happy0158:




I was gonna say grouped by # of sidebars...

[KellBell]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:

sounds like a plan for a charity calendar to raise money for missing persons... a calendar of Hot Honorable Judges. I will volunteer to be the photographer! Just need to pick 10 more and we have a full calendar year.

[tbrito1]

I skirt thru all posts on each thread.

When I post in BOLD RED HOW CAN ANYONE MISS IT? :0009:

we're sorry DeeJay, we will never do it again!!!!:71541: to us!!!

[kindee]

Kindee what's WWCD?



....WHAT WOULD CORNY DO?

[cavimom]

QUESTION!!

Are they (JUDGE & ATTORNEYS) at lunch and coming back?

I've been busy doing things around the house.

TIA!

I see nothiing.. I suppose they are back at offices waiting to hear from the jury! I do see a clock in the court room too.... :waitasec:

[tbrito1]

....WHAT WOULD CORNY DO?

rut row, there's the bold red letters again....:attention::attention::attention::attenti on:

[Xmygrits]

gurth!!!

:happy0158:

Is someone taking orders?

[Cat]

I skirt thru all posts on each thread.

When I post in BOLD RED HOW CAN ANYONE MISS IT? :0009:

I never miss yours, DeeJay. I skim, too.

[tbrito1]

:happy0158:

Is someone taking orders?

I'll have a large pepperoni please!!!:hifive:

[Cornblossom]

Kindee what's WWCD?What Would Cornblossom Do

[KellBell]

I skirt thru all posts on each thread.

When I post in BOLD RED HOW CAN ANYONE MISS IT? :0009:

I was afraid to start one at the same time someone else was, that is why I was lurking. Maybe we should direct a specific one to do it when we get to 775 or so so that at 800 we will know who the new thread starter will be and there is no confusion.

[Alibar]

Seeing Albee on TV right now, his forehead is weird the way light hits it. Maybe he was in an accident once upon a time.

[KellBell]

What Would Cornblossom Do

:zm10:

[Cat]

I started one yesterday and stepped on someone's toes...so I held off today.:71526:

No, you didn't, twinkie. Honest. I just asked Roamer to delete it. :basic45:

[cavimom]

sounds like a plan for a charity calendar to raise money for missing persons... a calendar of Hot Honorable Judges. I will volunteer to be the photographer! Just need to pick 10 more and we have a full calendar year.

Yum!! I would buy one!! GREAT IDEA! :67302:

[Cat]

I was afraid to start one at the same time someone else was, that is why I was lurking. Maybe we should direct a specific one to do it when we get to 775 or so so that at 800 we will know who the new thread starter will be and there is no confusion.

I think that's a great idea. Maybe for the next trial, we'll do that.

[kindee]

I'll have a large pepperoni please!!!:hifive:




:shock:

mark jensen, is that you????? :a1chic:

[tbrito1]

Seeing Albee on TV right now, his forehead is weird the way light hits it. Maybe he was in an accident once upon a time.

Every time I see your Avitar I just want to kiss those cheeks!!! Your baby is so darn cute!!!:love0085:

[KellBell]

I'll have a large pepperoni please!!!:hifive:



http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/pizza.jpg

[tbrito1]

:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::67302::shock:

mark jensen, is that you????? :a1chic:

[Alibar]

I was afraid to start one at the same time someone else was, that is why I was lurking. Maybe we should direct a specific one to do it when we get to 775 or so so that at 800 we will know who the new thread starter will be and there is no confusion.


I think the person who notices we have hit 800 should announce they are going to start a new thread....

[Cat]

Seeing Albee on TV right now, his forehead is weird the way light hits it. Maybe he was in an accident once upon a time.

I didn't want to appear petty, but isn't that the biggest crease in a forehead you ever saw? I just was thinking maybe lying makes big wrinkles. :67302:

[kindee]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/pizza.jpg




OH, you guys meant a PIZZA! :girl_haha:

[lost indie]

:shock:

mark jensen, is that you????? :a1chic:

Might be Kelly...

after the cs she must be in full trolling mode...

[kindee]

:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::67302:




You made me LOL! :francis:

[tbrito1]

:shock:

mark jensen, is that you????? :a1chic:

Kindee you are going to get me FIRED!!!! I almost fell outta my seat laughing!!!! :67302:

[Cat]

I think the person who notices we have hit 800 should announce they are going to start a new thread....

Doesn't work. Bambam posted that I should start one, and by the time I did, someone else had done it. A lot of people don't skim every post.

ETA: It's no BIGGIE (oops, terminology).

[tbrito1]

I think the person who notices we have hit 800 should announce they are going to start a new thread....

she did....:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[cavimom]

I'll have a large pepperoni please!!!

mark jensen, is that you?????

:67302:

[twinkiesmom]

Doesn't work. Bambam posted that I should start one, and by the time I did, someone else had done it. A lot of people don't skim every post.

Actually, I was making the new thread at the same time you were volunteering to do it.

[Alibar]

Every time I see your Avitar I just want to kiss those cheeks!!! Your baby is so darn cute!!!:love0085:

Thanks. I've been looking through my file of her pics for another one to use.

[kindee]

Might be Kelly...

after the cs she must be in full trolling mode...



The high five is mark's M.O. but you could be right...

[KellBell]

I think the person who notices we have hit 800 should announce they are going to start a new thread....


that would definitley work!

[Cat]

Actually, I was making the new thread at the same time you were volunteering to do it.

Exactly, that's why designated thread starter would be a good idea. :love0085:

[Cornblossom]

The Shawna Nelson trial sounds like it's gonna be a good one...sex extramarital affairs,cops.............http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=14992

[tbrito1]

that would definitley work!

or start a new thread first then announce we have reached the 800 mark.....then they might avoid duplicates???:happy0158:

[JoolzRoolz]

Fess up Joolz....

theyd be grouped by gavel size...

:grin:

:happy0158:

LOL - you guys are so funny. :girl_haha:

[JoolzRoolz]

I started one yesterday and stepped on someone's toes...so I held off today.:71526:

That's all it is, DeeJay. No one was ignoring you - it's just nobody wants to be the one to create the duplicate thread.

[annalyzer]

some jurors had 5 notebooks! Can you imagine taking all those notes and then NOT being allowed to be in on the decision? ACK ACK ACK ACK

IIRC we were allowed to take notes when I served on a murder trial but were not allowed to take the notes with us when we deliberated. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. :waitasec:

[DeeJay]

I see nothiing.. I suppose they are back at offices waiting to hear from the jury! I do see a clock in the court room too.... :waitasec:

I have the clock up on mfile.

[Alibar]

she did....:1187603408.CR.Mothe


But, initially asked for someone else to start one....

[DeeJay]

That's all it is, DeeJay. No one was ignoring you - it's just nobody wants to be the one to create the duplicate thread.

Got it. But what about all the posts I make and no one responds? Okay, so I don't expect a reply to every single post. I do get replys now and then.

Not complaining.......just sayin'.

[KellBell]

The Shawna Nelson trial sounds like it's gonna be a good one...sex extramarital affairs,cops.............http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=14992


Thanks Corny, I just read up on it. Sounds interesting. So how does CNN decide if they are going to cover a trial or not? Anyone know?

[kindee]

The Shawna Nelson trial sounds like it's gonna be a good one...sex extramarital affairs,cops.............http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=14992




That does sound good. I wonder if we'll get a live feed on it?

[kindee]

Thanks Corny, I just read up on it. Sounds interesting. So how does CNN decide if they are going to cover a trial or not? Anyone know?



You know, since we JUST switched over a few WEEKS ago (from Court to Tru Tv) it is going to be interesting to see what trials they do cover. Maybe we can help influence some of their choices?

[twinkiesmom]

How about the poster creating the 800th post is responsible for starting the new thread?

[annalyzer]

That does sound good. I wonder if we'll get a live feed on it?


I hope. I don't get TTV.

[JoolzRoolz]

Got it. But what about all the posts I make and no one responds? Okay, so I don't expect a reply to every single post. I do get replys now and then.

Not complaining.......just sayin'.

It happens to all of us. Personally, I will try and answer questions if I have the answer. Mostly I read a lot of posts that I agree with, or just make me laugh, and try not to "noise it up" by just posting an ITA or LOL if I have nothing to add to it. So when I don't respond, I'm not ignoring. I just don't have the answer or don't have anything to really respond.

I do enjoy your posts Very Much. :love0085:

[kindee]

IIRC we were allowed to take notes when I served on a murder trial but were not allowed to take the notes with us when we deliberated. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. :waitasec:




I meant the alternates released this morning.

[tbrito1]

How about the poster creating the 800th post is responsible for starting the new thread?

ooh ooh i like that suggestion....:zm10:

[KellBell]

I hope SG is ok, she went to the store and hasn't come back yet. Where are ya SG?

[DeeJay]

Thanks Corny, I just read up on it. Sounds interesting. So how does CNN decide if they are going to cover a trial or not? Anyone know?


Per what I saw on cnn's site yesterday, that one and another one they are going to tape them for "future viewing."

[gramvof14]

NEW YORK – This week, Jean Casarez continues our gavel-to-gavel coverage of Wisconsin v. Mark Jensen. Closing arguments took place Monday and now jurors are deliberating the fate of 48-year-old Jensen, accused of poisoning his wife, Julie, with ethylene glycol, the main ingredient in antifreeze. He faces life in a Wisconsin prison if convicted.



Mark Jensen’s murder trial is winding down.
We also have producers covering trials in Florida and Colorado, where Shawna Nelson, the wife of a sheriff’s investigator, is accused of first-degree murder in the killing of a fellow cop’s wife. Prosecutors say Nelson was angry when Ignacio Garraus ended their affair, and allegedly shot his wife, Heather. Both trials will air on In Session in the future.

Next week, correspondent Beth Karas returns to Canton, Ohio, for In Session’s coverage of the penalty phase in the case of former police officer Bobby Cutts Jr., convicted of double murder in the death of Jessie Davis and her unborn daughter.

Jurors will hear testimony from prosecution and defense witnesses and then decide if Cutts will be sentenced to death, or spend the rest of his life in prison.

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/
Hey corny great information you rock girl:basic45::happy0207::s1gyahoo:

[Xmygrits]

The Shawna Nelson trial sounds like it's gonna be a good one...sex extramarital affairs,cops.............http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=14992

That looks like a real juicy one Corny! Also could be perfect timing since it starts next Tuesday and if we're lucky, we'll have MJ behind bars for life by then.

[Cornblossom]

How about the poster creating the 800th post is responsible for starting the new thread?what if they don't know how?

[tbrito1]

I hope SG is ok, she went to the store and hasn't come back yet. Where are ya SG?

SG?????? WE MISS YOU??????:missing:

[kindee]

I have the clock up on mfile.



I do like that they are keeping that clock up.

It's nearing the 4 hour mark----I guess they deliberated through their lunch?

[StoneFox]

Greeley http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/11003582/detail.html

Thank Corny :0012:

Greeley is north of Denver and I am south of Denver. Maybe I can pack up my best friend and we can take a field trip to Greeley. :hifive:

[KellBell]

You know, since we JUST switched over a few WEEKS ago (from Court to Tru Tv) it is going to be interesting to see what trials they do cover. Maybe we can help influence some of their choices?

Who is the person who knows Jean and Beth? Maybe they could ask what trial is being covered next.

[tbrito1]

what if they don't know how?

I don't know how but we'll just have to learn right????:)

[JoolzRoolz]

Per what I saw on cnn's site yesterday, that one and another one they are going to tape them for "future viewing."

Grrrrr I hate that. That's why I became disinterested in CourtTV to begin with. I like live action trials.

[Cornblossom]

Who is the person who knows Jean and Beth? Maybe they could ask what trial is being covered next.warhorse

[tbrito1]

I do like that they are keeping that clock up.

It's nearing the 4 hour mark----I guess they deliberated through their lunch?

there doing a WL!!!!! (working lunch) PEPPERONI PIZZA!!!! you know, from the new place!!

[Cornblossom]

I don't know how but we'll just have to learn right????:)

guess you will lmao

[tbrito1]

guess you will lmao

:girl_haha::girl_haha:

I'll just keep saying to myself while i'm trying to figure it out....

WWCD, WWCD,WWCD !!!!:yes2:

[kindee]

there doing a WL!!!!! (working lunch) PEPPERONI PIZZA!!!! you know, from the new place!!




I like that they are working through lunch. That's my kind of jury.

[DeeJay]

Grrrrr I hate that. That's why I became disinterested in CourtTV to begin with. I like live action trials.


So do I. When they TAPE them, they edit the hell outta them. :duh:

[KellBell]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/19/wrestling.death.ap/index.html

Lionel Tate is going back to prison. What an idiot!!

[KellBell]

I don't know how but we'll just have to learn right????:)

Click on start thread and type in a title and post a message. If someone can post a message they can start a thread.

[DeeJay]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/19/wrestling.death.ap/index.html

Lionel Tate is going back to prison. What an idiot!!

I knew that kid wouldn't stay out of trouble when I watched the trial.

[gramvof14]

Hey SG where are you ?????COME OUT, COME OUT, WHERE EVER YOU ARE.HAHAHA:girl_haha:I hope you are feeling alright my friend.((((hugs))))
gramv

[KellBell]

Grrrrr I hate that. That's why I became disinterested in CourtTV to begin with. I like live action trials.


Yeah, that's crap, I don't like watching them on TTV anyway because they only show tiny bits and pieces and then you have to listen to all the TH. They annoy me. I like the meat and potatoes not all the fixins...

[twinkiesmom]

I hope SG is ok, she went to the store and hasn't come back yet. Where are ya SG?


My dad grew up downstate IL, and a trip to the store could take awhile if you have to pass a bunch of farms to get there.

[tbrito1]

snip*** I like the meat and potatoes not all the fixins...

that's what mj said!!! LOL

[Cornblossom]

:girl_haha::girl_haha:

I'll just keep saying to myself while i'm trying to figure it out....

WWCD, WWCD,WWCD !!!!:yes2:
not make the 800th post LMAO

[kindee]

Oh man, here we go: just passed the 4 hour mark.

[lost indie]

I've got to leave for a few...

don't let the verdict come in without me...

:basic44:

[KellBell]

Well I know I will be watching the Nelson trial live now that I have heard a little about it.

[KellBell]

that's what mj said!!! LOL


:67302:

[gramvof14]

I've got to leave for a few...

don't let the verdict come in without me...

:basic44:
OK hurry back but drive careful.:)

[KellBell]

that's what mj said!!! LOL


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/4-9-2007-10.jpg

[IfIMay]

I like that they are working through lunch. That's my kind of jury.

certainly different than the 1.5 hr lunches that Spector jury took.:0doh:

[KellBell]

Oh man, here we go: just passed the 4 hour mark.

This is worse than I thought it would be.

[Swabby]

Hi Guys!

Heads UP!

The neighbors are going to be on Ford's program, after the commercial.

Voijts (sp)

Swabby

[kellabeck]

Just got back. All quiet in the courtroom? They are deliberating over pizza?? That's a good sign.

[KellBell]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/Megaphone.jpg

SG! WHERE ARE YOU???

[twinkiesmom]

Hi Guys!

Heads UP!

The neighbors are going to be on Ford's program, after the commercial.

Voijts (sp)

Swabby

Thanks for the heads up...I have Albee's closing muted...

[kellabeck]

I do like that they are keeping that clock up.

It's nearing the 4 hour mark----I guess they deliberated through their lunch?

But in less than an hour when IS ends, we should keep our own clock, eh?

[cavimom]

Per what I saw on cnn's site yesterday, that one and another one they are going to tape them for "future viewing."

Dee Jay, I like your signature comment! and I AGREE! :innocent0001: please In Session.. GET ON THE COURT TV BOAT!

[Cornblossom]

Jean just gave occupations...we have an engineer tech fer sure

[tbrito1]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/4-9-2007-10.jpg

is that you?

[tbrito1]

Hi Guys!

Heads UP!

The neighbors are going to be on Ford's program, after the commercial.

Voijts (sp)

Swabby

please fill us people at work in on what they said...TIA!!

[cavimom]

what if they don't know how?
:67302: i think maybe whoever thinks of it... post in

big red letters..... come to afternoon thread! jmo

[tbrito1]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/Megaphone.jpg

SG! WHERE ARE YOU???

you are too much kellbell!!!!:67302::67302:

[DeeJay]

Dee Jay, I like your signature comment! and I AGREE! :innocent0001: please In Session.. GET ON THE COURT TV BOAT!

Thank you! :hifive:

[kellabeck]

Ashleigh is in NY. What was up with yesterday and that moment with the judge??

Does anyone know what an engineering tech does??

[kellabeck]

:67302: i think maybe whoever thinks of it... post in

big red letters..... come to afternoon thread! jmo

I saw this and I thought--- aren't I here??

The Wojts are on with AB and JF.

[tbrito1]

Ashleigh is in NY. What was up with yesterday and that moment with the judge??

Does anyone know what an engineering tech does??

http://smarthunt.com/Smartjob.cfm?projectid=41086

[Cornblossom]

:67302: i think maybe whoever thinks of it... post in

big red letters..... come to afternoon thread! jmo
then proceede to tell them how to start one?

[cavimom]

I saw this and I thought--- aren't I here??

The Wojts are on with AB and JF.

oops sorry!

[KellBell]

Grr, Jean is obviously not fully informed. She reported that the jury hates pizza and won't be having that again. Obviously wrong because they ordered it today, just from a different place. That makes me wonder what else she is misinformed about. I should know better than to watch TTV. I never knew how often they get info wrong until I started watching online. Just venting I guess.

[mitch]

Cavimom wrote on the other thread:

Idlike to see Judge Fidler & Judge Herndon without thier Robes!

LOL!

I can picture it now - cavimom having 2800 pics on her computer of disrobed judges... grouped by, uh, height.

:22wink:

wild guess, but i think Hand size.

[KellBell]

is that you?

No lol, photobucket

[Xmygrits]

Ashleigh is in NY. What was up with yesterday and that moment with the judge??

Does anyone know what an engineering tech does??

Where I work they are typically hired on as the bottom rung to a full fledge engineering position. They are working on obtaining a degree in the engineering field or their position does not require the amount of education as another engineering position would. We have 3 levels of eng here where I work. The mentality is pretty much across the board with of course the rare exception.

[cavimom]

I saw this and I thought--- aren't I here??

The Wojts are on with AB and JF.

oops sorry !!! :022:

[StoneFox]

Jean just gave occupations...we have an engineer tech fer sure



Job descriptions for engineer techs:

Engineering Technician
Performs tasks to assist engineers such as preliminary research, initial drawings or diagrams, design modification, or testing. Operates under direct supervision. Usually requires a 2 year degree plus 1-3 years relevant experience, or equivalent.

Engineering Technician - Senior
Performs tasks to assist engineers such as research, initial drawings or diagrams, design modification, or testing. Operates under general supervision and may provide technical assistance to lower level technicians. Usually requires a 2 year degree plus 3-4 years relevant experience, or equivalent.

http://www.salarysource.com/description2.cfm?cdkey=5#103

key words, IMO: research, diagrams, modification

we shall see if the engineer causes any problems, hopefully we have a verdict soon.

[kindee]

certainly different than the 1.5 hr lunches that Spector jury took.:0doh:



No kidding.



I hope locals can keep us up to date. TruTV (and the clock) will be leaving the air here in 40 minutes. :girl_sad:

[KellBell]

Ashleigh is in NY. What was up with yesterday and that moment with the judge??

Does anyone know what an engineering tech does??

I dont think it was her. Someone heard the judge say Ashley and someone suspected it might be Banfield but no one ever saw her.

No idea what the engineering tech does.

[tbrito1]

then proceede to tell them how to start one?

Click on start thread and type in a title and post a message. If someone can post a message they can start a thread. LOL!!!!!:zm10:

[Xmygrits]

Job descriptions for engineer techs:

Engineering Technician
Performs tasks to assist engineers such as preliminary research, initial drawings or diagrams, design modification, or testing. Operates under direct supervision. Usually requires a 2 year degree plus 1-3 years relevant experience, or equivalent.

Engineering Technician - Senior
Performs tasks to assist engineers such as research, initial drawings or diagrams, design modification, or testing. Operates under general supervision and may provide technical assistance to lower level technicians. Usually requires a 2 year degree plus 3-4 years relevant experience, or equivalent.

http://www.salarysource.com/description2.cfm?cdkey=5#103

key words, IMO: research, diagrams, modification

we shall see if the engineer causes any problems, hopefully we have a verdict soon.


Excellent FYI Stoney!

[cavimom]

wild guess, but i think Hand size.

:67302: too funny.. everyone is trying to be so nice and squeeky clean..:67302: dammit I'm arranging them by weenie size..!! :22wink:

[DeeJay]

Glenn Turner & Randy Thompson both were found dead from EG poisoning, & in bed on their left side.

Anyone else find this ironic as did I? I think it's like :shock:!

I posted this info on the Sunday night thread but no one responded.

[kindee]

Jean just gave occupations...we have an engineer tech fer sure




carap. :duh::doh:

[tbrito1]

carap. :duh::doh:

shhhhh don't let bambam see this!!!

[cavimom]

No kidding.



I hope locals can keep us up to date. TruTV (and the clock) will be leaving the air here in 40 minutes. :girl_sad: :duh: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO where do we keep informed?? :0009:

[Xmygrits]

Glenn Turner & Randy Thompson both were found dead from EG poisoning, & in bed on their left side.

Anyone else find this ironic as did I? I think it's like :shock:!

I posted this info on the Sunday night thread but no one responded.

Well when things I read here make me go, "Hmmmmmmmmmmm" I sometimes don't post my thoughts!

[Cornblossom]

Click on start thread and type in a title and post a message. If someone can post a message they can start a thread. LOL!!!!!:zm10:
I know how to start one LMAO BUT won't...ever!

[cavimom]

Glenn Turner & Randy Thompson both were found dead from EG poisoning, & in bed on their left side.

Anyone else find this ironic as did I? I think it's like :shock:!

I posted this info on the Sunday night thread but no one responded.

HMM.. Thats WIERD!! and eerie! :shock:

[twinkiesmom]

then proceede to tell them how to start one?

It's really simple...You would go to the main forum for the trial of interest (e.g., State of WI vs. Mark D. Jensen) and select Start Thread (in large letters near top of screen) and then you have to put in a title. You just type in the date and time of day.

[kindee]

But in less than an hour when IS ends, we should keep our own clock, eh?


Yeah...but we won't know if they stop for breaks or the day or anything. I'm hoping the locals with access to local TV etc. keep us informed of any action!

[tbrito1]

I know how to start one LMAO BUT won't...ever!

why not?

[kindee]

I know how to start one LMAO BUT won't...ever!


I do too and I won't either.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:francis :

[cavimom]

does anyone know IF they decided to sequester the jurors? I can see Albee fighting for this BIG TIME!

[StoneFox]

Excellent FYI Stoney!

:howdy: Thank ya!

[Cornblossom]

why not?I don't want to

[StoneFox]

does anyone know IF they decided to sequester the jurors? I can see Albee fighting for this BIG TIME!

Jean C said no sequestration.

[kindee]

:duh: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO where do we keep informed?? :0009:




The only place is the local feeds, the WISN site etc. Or local posters who get alerts somehow.

*sigh* I really feel, though, like the jurors have a lot of "stuff" to go through and probably will NOT come back with a decision today.

[Alibar]

wild guess, but i think Hand size.


Foot size first.... then hand size... :67302:

[mitch]

Greeley http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/11003582/detail.html

thanks corny,

katydid looks like we have us a good un here.

how close is this courthouse to you?

[cavimom]

Jean C said no sequestration.

Thank you! :howdy:

[KellBell]

my WISN feed wasn't even working and I didn't know it. Now I am going to be paranoid all night.

[gramvof14]

:67302: i think maybe whoever thinks of it... post in

big red letters..... come to afternoon thread! jmo
Cavimom my sister lives in the same town that the Entwisles lived. I know that is not how they spell their name.

[cavimom]

No sequestration! OH BOY.. Albee will have spies out collecting the jurors computers and tapping thier cable lines... MISTRIAL!

[DeeJay]

HMM.. Thats WIERD!! and eerie! :shock:


Beyond ironic. Can't explain it.

[KellBell]

does anyone know IF they decided to sequester the jurors? I can see Albee fighting for this BIG TIME!


No they are not sequestered and I didn't hear Albee ask for them to be.

[cavimom]

Cavimom my sister lives in the same town that the Entwisles lived. I know that is not how they spell their name.

Oh, I dont know how to spell it I guess. Will she go to the trial? I'll look for her if she does. Let me now maybe we can sit next to each other and you will know where to LQQK for me :basic44:

[KellBell]

Live!!!!!!!

[gramvof14]

there back in court

[kindee]

judge is in his chair (no robe) and we have sound????


Has Mark been sitting there all along?


Jury clock still ticking so wth?

[KellBell]

Live Live Live!

[KellBell]

No family there....

[kellabeck]

AB asks TW about Julie's letter and how he feels about the jury's not asking to see it. Does it strike him as odd?
TW: No not really. It didn't strike me at all.

AB asks how they weren't tempted to open the letter.
TW: In a way I kinds knew what was inside b/c the stuff actually inside was the stuff she was telling me about.

AB asks MW how she feels this trial has played out?
Margaret: I am very anxious and I hope I can be here for the verdict. Waiting for 9 yrs. We talk about it for 9 yrs. It's been very hard on our family. Hopefully it is over today.

AB: What kind of verdict are you waiting for?
MW: Oh, the obvious one-- guilty. Mark is guilty.

AB: Did the defense do an admirable job?
MW: Yeah, I think so.
AB Do you think it's possible this jury could findhim NG?

TW: Kids are the real victims. He doesn't care much which way it will go.

COuld she have done this?
TW: No way, she would never have committed suicide and framed Mark. She would never leave the kids.

AB asks why she didn't cry out for help?
MW-- thinks she was at the stage she couldn't have done it. She trusted M. She couldn't have done it.

TW: she never believed M would do it. Thought he was playing with her mind. He repeated to her many times, You're an unfit mother,

AB asks if they worry the jury might not see it their way.
MW: No. Doesn't think so.

[sciencegirl]

We're LIVE. WHY?????????????????? Are they just back from lunch and have to finish the exhibits?

[KellBell]

Can't be a verdict. Right.

[Cornblossom]

Judge is eating something......kicking back reading LMAO

[lovelaw]

there back in court

WHAT"S UP!!~:basic44:

[jcc]

So... does MJ just sit in this room all day?

[mitch]

whats up do you think there is a verdict.

[kellabeck]

judge is in his chair (no robe) and we have sound????


Has Mark been sitting there all along?


Jury clock still ticking so wth?

He'd have to have a guard, no?? Do you think they keep him in a holding cell? That's what I imagine.

[twinkiesmom]

We're Live!

[kindee]

No family there....




Who IS there? What they hey? It's empty but for Albee, Mark and the judge?

[KellBell]

We're LIVE. WHY?????????????????? Are they just back from lunch and have to finish the exhibits?


WELCOME BACK! We missed you. They deliberated through lunch. DOn't know what this is yet but I don't see family so I don't think it is a verdict.

[cavimom]

Maybe jurors asked for another exibit?

[kellabeck]

Maybe a question?

[sciencegirl]

Can't be a verdict. Right.

I doubt it; if he doesn't have his robe on. Were they finished with their exhibits/evidence this moring? Maybe this is just a continuation?

[kindee]

He'd have to have a guard, no?? Do you think they keep him in a holding cell? That's what I imagine.



yeah, but there he sits...I wonder if we're gonna hear more about allowing exhibits......or something. :rolleye0001:

[Cornblossom]

So... does MJ just sit in this room all day?probably in holding room

[KellBell]

Here comes some journalists...

[StoneFox]

thanks corny,

katydid looks like we have us a good un here.

how close is this courthouse to you?

It's about 80 miles north of me. I would have to pull a couple overnighters. It's actually closer to Cheyenne Wyoming than me. I'm thinking of asking my best friend if she might want to take a field trip with me.

But, I am thinking about it. :grin:

[lovelaw]

Can't be a verdict. Right.

Never know!~

[gramvof14]

Oh, I dont know how to spell it I guess. Will she go to the trial? I'll look for her if she does. Let me now maybe we can sit next to each other and you will know where to LQQK for me :basic44:
I am sure she would like to but she has Fiber Myalger very bad and can not drive has to spend a lot of time resting. thanks anyway.:happy0207:

[Xmygrits]

AB asks TW about Julie's letter and how he feels about the jury's not asking to see it. Does it strike him as odd?
TW: No not really. It didn't strike me at all.

AB asks how they weren't tempted to open the letter.
TW: In a way I kinds knew what was inside b/c the stuff actually inside was the stuff she was telling me about.

AB asks MW how she feels this trial has played out?
Margaret: I am very anxious and I hope I can be here for the verdict. Waiting for 9 yrs. We talk about it for 9 yrs. It's been very hard on our family. Hopefully it is over today.

AB: What kind of verdict are you waiting for?
MW: Oh, the obvious one-- guilty. Mark is guilty.

AB: Did the defense do an admirable job?
MW: Yeah, I think so.
AB Do you think it's possible this jury could findhim NG?

TW: Kids are the real victims. He doesn't care much which way it will go.

COuld she have done this?
TW: No way, she would never have committed suicide and framed Mark. She would never leave the kids.

AB asks why she didn't cry out for help?
MW-- thinks she was at the stage she couldn't have done it. She trusted M. She couldn't have done it.

TW: she never believed M would do it. Thought he was playing with her mind. He repeated to her many times, You're an unfit mother,

AB asks if they worry the jury might not see it their way.
MW: No. Doesn't think so.


thank you very much for typing this out for those of us away from a TV.

[Cornblossom]

Baby Boyles on Banfield and Ford

[kellabeck]

Judge put his black dress on.

[kindee]

Can't be a verdict. Right.




The jury clock is still ticking, meaning no verdict.

Courtroom is filling up, though.

[lovelaw]

Looks like Jensen wore a tie he and Albee could play checkers on while awaiting the verdict!~

[JoolzRoolz]

probably in holding room

... thinking of all the ways he's going to have to barter for cigarettes while rotting away in prison.

[cavimom]

OMG! I want the VERDICT! Im going nutz here!:francis:

[StoneFox]

What's up? Have the jurors asked for more evidence? Or maybe they want to kick off the engineer. :francis:

[kellabeck]

Judge said to Jambois "Instructions I am thinking of giving to the jury when we are all done" or something close!

[lovelaw]

Baby Boyles on Banfield and Ford

She has the same voice inflection as daddy Boyle!`

[KellBell]

what do you think they are all reading???

[kindee]

Baby Boyles on Banfield and Ford




She looks like a completely different person than we saw in Frank Jude.

Come on, tell us what gives!

jurors want additional exhibits says Jack Ford. hmmmmmmmmmm

[kellabeck]

Now what happened? The camera's focused on the sidebar. Oh, here come da judge again.

[JoolzRoolz]

what do you think they are all reading???

The judge said something about additional instructions for the jurors when "this is all through".

[kindee]

What's up? Have the jurors asked for more evidence? Or maybe they want to kick off the engineer. :francis:




HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I think the former but hoping for the latter!
jury wants:
bedroom photo of Julie in bed

Ed Klug personal notes

1991 divorce papers

something about a note of Julie's?



Oh they didn't ask for anything about Dillard?

[lovelaw]

Hmmmmmmmmmm...the PHOTO of Julie in bed!~

[Cornblossom]

wants to see Julie in bed photo and letter

[jcc]

He almost had me... putting on his robe and everything.

Do you think Mark has a hope he'll be found not guilty?

Curses! I keep accidentally hitting refresh on my video feed instead of here... and then have to sit through the load up...but, hey! no commercial this time! And back to clock.

[gramvof14]

We're LIVE. WHY?????????????????? Are they just back from lunch and have to finish the exhibits?
Glad you are back we were wondering where you were.:basic45:

[kellabeck]

JJ letter of 21 Nov.
divorce papers
EK personnel notes ??
photos of JJ from the scene
photos from that day????

I wasn't quick to my pen. That went so fast. Anyone help??

[KellBell]

The jury wanted to see more evidence.

Divorce filing
Julie's letter
Klug's notes
Pictures of Julie in the bedroom
Internet history

[lovelaw]

She looks like a completely different person than we saw in Frank Jude.

Come on, tell us what gives!

jurors want additional exhibits says Jack Ford. hmmmmmmmmmm



She does! She is much more self assured, articulate, and better "groomed" if you will!~

[cavimom]

interesting.. these jurors are moving fast!

[lovelaw]

He almost had me... putting on his robe and everything.

Do you think Mark has a hope he'll be found not guilty?


I think he does.

[kindee]

He almost had me... putting on his robe and everything.

Do you think Mark has a hope he'll be found not guilty?




I just hope the engineer isn't making the rest of them go through EVERY word every witness uttered. What are they looking for?

[kellabeck]

Internet history! Thank You! I missed that.

These things are all the most important things in the case, and they are all bad for MJ, I think.

[KellBell]

interesting.. these jurors are moving fast!

Is this fast? I dont' have anything to compare it to.

[Xmygrits]

I just hope the engineer isn't making the rest of them go through EVERY word every witness uttered. What are they looking for?
Oh me too! I like what they are asking for. I have a hunch they are almost united in one vote, but perhaps 1-2 are not quite sure.

[StoneFox]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I think the former but hoping for the latter!
jury wants:
bedroom photo of Julie in bed

Ed Klug personal notes

1991 divorce papers

something about a note of Julie's?

Oh they didn't ask for anything about Dillard?

Hmmmm...maybe they haven't started discussing Dillard yet. Wonder if they dismissed all the snitch testimony.

[JoolzRoolz]

The jury wanted to see more evidence.

Divorce filing
Julie's letter
Klug's notes
Pictures of Julie in the bedroom
Internet history

Looks like another promising list.

[cavimom]

The EK note isnt good.. because Albee pointed out that he ADDED the line IN about talking about killing wife. I bet they want to see the divorce papers to see haat the reason was that julie was stating as grounds? Just pure speculation on my part!

[lovelaw]

I just hope the engineer isn't making the rest of them go through EVERY word every witness uttered. What are they looking for?

I'm trying hard to decipher what it is they are after...but....what a mish mash of evidence!!~

[JoolzRoolz]

Hmmmm...maybe they haven't started discussing Dillard yet. Wonder if they dismissed all the snitch testimony.

I will LMAO if they never ask to see one thing related to Dillard.

[cavimom]

Is this fast? I dont' have anything to compare it to.
Well they have asked TWICE for exibits.. so sounds like they are on SOME track at least. The first nnote came out pretty quickly too... JMO

[kellabeck]

Hmmmm...maybe they haven't started discussing Dillard yet. Wonder if they dismissed all the snitch testimony.


That would not be unreasonable, would it? Just set them completely aside and look to the unbiased witnesses, photos, physical evidence, behavior and internet.

[KellBell]

I will LMAO if they never ask to see one thing related to Dillard.


What is there to ask for on Dillard? Albee's flip chart. :22wink:

[StoneFox]

Internet history! Thank You! I missed that.

These things are all the most important things in the case, and they are all bad for MJ, I think.

ITA kella!

Sounds like they are putting a timeline together. I like they asked for the internet history. When Mark talked with Klug and how the internet searches line up with that.

[cavimom]

I will LMAO if they never ask to see one thing related to Dillard.
OMGosh me too... Albee put all his eggs in the "discredit Dillard basket" . Even if they throw out everything he said I feel there is still enough evidence for a Guilty verdict. JMO of course :0009:

[lovelaw]

Internet history! Thank You! I missed that.

These things are all the most important things in the case, and they are all bad for MJ, I think.

I hope you are right!`

The letter?? I'd be interested in her hand writing. I think someone in the midst of a clinical depression would have somewhat scattered thoughts, and sloppy handwriting. I'd compare it to other known, earlier, samples of her handwriting. Just me...maybe!~

[cavimom]

What is there to ask for on Dillard? Albee's flip chart. :22wink: :67302::67302:

[StoneFox]

That would not be unreasonable, would it? Just set them completely aside and look to the unbiased witnesses, photos, physical evidence, behavior and internet.

That's what I think too. The snitch testimony was only the icing on the cake. It didn't have anything to do with Mark committing the crime.

[kellabeck]

The EK note isnt good.. because Albee pointed out that he ADDED the line IN about talking about killing wife. I bet they want to see the divorce papers to see haat the reason was that julie was stating as grounds? Just pure speculation on my part!

Yes, but. Ed Klug
1) had no motive to make this up unless you believe he is just an attention seeker!

2) is corroborated by his wife, Stacy Bauer, Dave Nehring, Quin Yorton and even Dawn Cooper.

[JoolzRoolz]

The EK note isnt good.. because Albee pointed out that he ADDED the line IN about talking about killing wife. I bet they want to see the divorce papers to see haat the reason was that julie was stating as grounds? Just pure speculation on my part!

I think you may be right about the divorce papers because Albee said in his CA that Julie was planning "a whole new life with this other person" (Perry) and that's why she filed for divorce. That's hogwash. I don't remember one shred of evidence to that.

The EK note might be a bad sign since Albee highlighted it in his CA. :0009:

[Kara]

wants to see Julie in bed photo and letter

Aha....I saw action in the courtroom but missed what was going on. That's all they want? Just the 2 items?

I had to go to town again today to get a new kitchen faucet. Do you know how inconvenient it is to not have water in the kitchen???

[lovelaw]

That would not be unreasonable, would it? Just set them completely aside and look to the unbiased witnesses, photos, physical evidence, behavior and internet.

Sounds completely reasonable to me!`

[Cornblossom]

IMO...they have already found him guilty...they are just asking for this stuff cause they know it will make us bonkers LMAO

[kellabeck]

OMGosh me too... Albee put all his eggs in the "discredit Dillard basket" . Even if they throw out everything he said I feel there is still enough evidence for a Guilty verdict. JMO of course :0009:

What eggs weren't in the Dillard basket were in the Credit Spiro and Rumack and Denton basket.

Only the first two were obviously biased and the third was unbiased and became a prosecution witness!!

[Bernie]

What is there to ask for on Dillard? Albee's flip chart. :22wink:

I suppose jail records....fruitless as they would be :howdy:

[DeeJay]

WHAT!!! The jury isn't asking for all that verbal abuse Albee did yesterday, on his favorite subject.....DILLARD!!!???

Albee must be feeling really dejected and unloved.

:girl_haha:

[KellBell]

Aha....I saw action in the courtroom but missed what was going on. That's all they want? Just the 2 items?

I had to go to town again today to get a new kitchen faucet. Do you know how inconvenient it is to not have water in the kitchen???


Divorce filing
Julie's letter
Klug's notes
Pictures of Julie in the bedroom
Internet history

[JoolzRoolz]

What is there to ask for on Dillard? Albee's flip chart. :22wink:

There's the letter he wrote to his attorney (I think it was submitted as an exhibit). And that thing from the agent that Albee read from during his closing might be an exhibit though I am not sure - they fought about it outside the presence of the jury during Albee's CA and the judge allowed Albee to reference/read from it.

[kellabeck]

ITA kella!

Sounds like they are putting a timeline together. I like they asked for the internet history. When Mark talked with Klug and how the internet searches line up with that.

AND they have not asked for any of the Smoke or any of the Mirrors!

[lovelaw]

WHAT!!! The jury isn't asking for all that verbal abuse Albee did yesterday, on his favorite subject.....DILLARD!!!???

Albee must be feeling really dejected and unloved.

:girl_haha:


:s1gyahoo:

[Cornblossom]

Aha....I saw action in the courtroom but missed what was going on. That's all they want? Just the 2 items?

I had to go to town again today to get a new kitchen faucet. Do you know how inconvenient it is to not have water in the kitchen???
:0012:
Divorce filing.....Klug's notes.....Internet history

[andersson33]

I think this is a practical, common sense jury.
No fooling around, and no getting side tracked.

To me, it's all good for a conviction.

:yes2:

[tbrito1]

I don't want to

sounds good to me!!!