Jenson Verdict Watch February 20th Afternoon

[shortcake]

Jump on!

[KellBell]

Present and accounted for!!

[tbrito1]

Here but leaving for a meeting

[TigressPen]

Made it!!

[Bernie]

Where did everyone go......

[bambam]

here barely

[Cat]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i81/hawagner83/a22159a8.gif

[shortcake]

Either that door moved or my computer glitched. Bet my computer glitched.

[kindee]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i81/hawagner83/a22159a8.gif




I'm stealing that.

Kindee here too!

[Bernie]

Either that door moved or my computer glitched. Bet my computer glitched.

it moved

[johnielee333]

:zm10::party52:

[Xmygrits]

The AMA has announced a new serious medical alert.




~Swallowing your gum could have harmful side effects~
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/Xmygrits/dontswallowgum.jpg

[lovelaw]

Jump on!

I'm on!~

[lovelaw]

The ADA has announced a new serious medical alert.




~Swallowing your gum could have harmful side effects~
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/Xmygrits/dontswallowgum.jpg



:67302::67302::67302:

[Cat]

I'm stealing that.

Kindee here too!

Go ahead, I just found it on photo bucket. Also, I don't do Tom Petty. Have you got an ancient favorite perhaps? '20's, 30's, 40's are my specialty.

[sciencegirl]

Bringing this over from the last page in case anyone missed it. Here's an article on stealth jurors by Dan Abrams.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4653700/

[Cornblossom]

daddy Boyles on TruTV......things must be slow for him LMAO but he said there's nothing to worry about.

[sciencegirl]

Well...the jurors have to be asking for lunch some time soon. Right??? Or did they bring in a caserole like they did on the Spector jury???

[gramvof14]

I am here also still looking at the clock. God I need to get a life. hahaha:s1gyahoo::67302::francis:

[kellabeck]

Dang! This got lost at the end of the old thread---

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p219/Foxlewa/Insperational/Obvious.jpg
GUILTY!!

[lovelaw]

daddy Boyles on TruTV......things must be slow for him LMAO but he said there's nothing to worry about.



I really like him!!~ I don't know if that is a popular opinion...but I really do!~

Hey...I was thinking...If this jury is "hung"...is MJ going to want pictures~?:grin:

[cavimom]

Im here! LOL I was ,<~~~~~back there telling everyone "its time" and Im the last one here LOL

[Orchid Corsage]

The AMA has announced a new serious medical alert.




~Swallowing your gum could have harmful side effects~
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/Xmygrits/dontswallowgum.jpg

LMBO L@@K at the one in the 2nd row, 2nd from the left!

L@@KS like Albee :s1gyahoo:

[kellabeck]

Stealth jurors are real. And not just on high-profile cases! I know from experience.

[lost indie]

http://bestsmileys.com/oneofakind/8.gif

[tbrito1]

Im here! LOL I was ,<~~~~~back there telling everyone "its time" and Im the last one here LOL

it was the blue lettering!!!! I was waiting for red...LOL :kidding-01:

[cavimom]

I am here also still looking at the clock. God I need to get a life. hahaha:s1gyahoo::67302::francis:


http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kimberlyjo1/suicide-1.jpg

[Cat]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w67/blunuke2/1290517rs.jpg

Disclaimer: This is just a funny. I am not in favor of drinking, especially when you are driving.

[kindee]

Go ahead, I just found it on photo bucket. Also, I don't do Tom Petty. Have you got an ancient favorite perhaps? '20's, 30's, 40's are my specialty.




Let me think...ok how about You Always Hurt The One You Love? :girl_haha:

[kellabeck]

LMBO L@@K at the one in the 2nd row, 2nd from the left!

L@@KS like Albee :s1gyahoo:


It does!!!

[lovelaw]

LMBO L@@K at the one in the 2nd row, 2nd from the left!

L@@KS like Albee :s1gyahoo:

OMG!! IT DOES!~:zm10:

[tbrito1]

LMBO L@@K at the one in the 2nd row, 2nd from the left!

L@@KS like Albee :s1gyahoo:

OMG it sure does!!!!:s1gyahoo:

[browneyes]

Good afternoon all!! I just got in....what have I missed? Please don't make me read 900 posts. Thanks!! :happy0207:

[cavimom]

it was the blue lettering!!!! I was waiting for red...LOL :kidding-01:
LOL

yup.. YOU right! :zm10:

[tbrito1]

:0012:http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w67/blunuke2/1290517rs.jpg

Disclaimer: This is just a funny. I am not in favor of drinking, especially when you are driving.

[cavimom]

Good afternoon all!! I just got in....what have I missed? Please don't make me read 900 posts. Thanks!! :happy0207:


NUTTIN' http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kimberlyjo1/suicide.gif

[DeeJay]

Imported from morning thread.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sciencegirl
Unfortunately; not a word. There's a fight going on in there; I can just feel it.

What is so obvious to all of us; there is a stealth juror in there. No doubt in my mind. And, it's a man; whether it's the engineer or not.


Oh I dunno....remember in spector, that one WOMAN changed her vote from GUILTY to NOT GUILTY, b/c the foreman was sticking with NOT GUILTY? :71541:

That woman did not want him to be all alone in his NG vote.

[Cat]

Let me think...ok how about You Always Hurt The One You Love? :girl_haha:

That would be VERY appropriate. And after the guilty verdict, how about "Who's Sorry Now?" :girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

Good afternoon all!! I just got in....what have I missed? Please don't make me read 900 posts. Thanks!! :happy0207:

You have missed NOTHING but us having loopy fun as we await any peep from the jury!!~:0012::0012:

[browneyes]

Oh, I need the wisn link again..please and thank you.

[cavimom]

:0012: :0012::0012::happy0207::happy0207:

[KellBell]

Dang! This got lost at the end of the old thread---

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p219/Foxlewa/Insperational/Obvious.jpg
GUILTY!!

Oh wow, that reminded me, I don't think I told you guys, when I went to the funeral on Friday it was in Akron which is about 15 min from Canton. When I got there they said on the radio that the verdict would be announced that morning. Well on my way back I was on I76 and they had a huge electronic billboard that said GUILTY!!!

[browneyes]

You have missed NOTHING but us having loopy fun as we await any peep from the jury!!~:0012::0012:

NO peeps at all today. Darn, I was hoping they went home late last night just to sleep on it. :flirt99:

[cavimom]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee215/monette922photos/tired.gif of looking at that clock!

[Xmygrits]

LMBO L@@K at the one in the 2nd row, 2nd from the left!

L@@KS like Albee :s1gyahoo:

OMG!! You're right!!!! :67302:

[tbrito1]

Oh, I need the wisn link again..please and thank you.

Here ya go:
http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html

[Cornblossom]

I really like him!!~ I don't know if that is a popular opinion...but I really do!~

Hey...I was thinking...If this jury is "hung"...is MJ going to want pictures~?:grin:

:67302: oh I'd bet the farm LMAO

[Orchid Corsage]

Yep it's Albee, L@@king GOOD! :s1gyahoo::0012::s1gyahoo::0012:

[johnielee333]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w67/blunuke2/1290517rs.jpg

Disclaimer: This is just a funny. I am not in favor of drinking, especially when you are driving.


my hand is raised :happy0207: :zm10::party52: and i dont drive at all

[Xmygrits]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w67/blunuke2/1290517rs.jpg

Disclaimer: This is just a funny. I am not in favor of drinking, especially when you are driving.

:67302: Well I am in favor of drinking, especially today...but being resonsible I only drink at home...*alone...no DUI.


*See disclaimer

[tbrito1]

Yep it's Albee, L@@king GOOD! :s1gyahoo::0012::s1gyahoo::0012:

tighten up those cheeks for your client Albee!!!

[Swabby]

I really like him!!~ I don't know if that is a popular opinion...but I really do!~

Hey...I was thinking...If this jury is "hung"...is MJ going to want pictures~?:grin:

ROTFLMAO!

Hey, you know what? Mark had the time of his life yesterday, got to be out and about WAY past "lights-out".

I just LOVED it tho, when Albee had to ask the judge to let him go to the bathroom.

Imagine, being a grown man and having to get another man to ask a third man if you can go wizz.

Swabby

[Cat]

:67302: Well I am in favor of drinking, especially today...but being resonsible I only drink at home...alone...no DUI.


*See disclaimer

I am the next thing to a teetotler. I probably have a drink once in a month or two. DH is recovering alcoholic.

[lovelaw]

NO peeps at all today. Darn, I was hoping they went home late last night just to sleep on it. :flirt99:

ME TOO!~:girl_sad:

[tbrito1]

ROTFLMAO!

Hey, you kow what? Mark had the time of his life yesterday, got to be out and about WAY past "lights-out".

I just LOVED it tho, when Albee had to ask the judge to let him go to the bathroom.

Imagine, being a grown man and having to get another man to ask a third man if you can go wizz.

Swabby

and he said that mj asked twice!!!!

[browneyes]

Here ya go:
http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html


Thank you so much!

[kindee]

daddy Boyles on TruTV......things must be slow for him LMAO but he said there's nothing to worry about.




Oh did he? Hmmmmmm. Well, OK.

I'm going back and forth with the weather---we're getting another ICE storm heading our way tonight into the weekend.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tbrito1]

:waitasec:I'm bored!!!

[Cat]

Oh did he? Hmmmmmm. Well, OK.

I'm going back and forth with the weather---we're getting another ICE storm heading our way tonight into the weekend.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Noooooooooooooooooooo! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[annalyzer]

The AMA has announced a new serious medical alert.




~Swallowing your gum could have harmful side effects~
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/Xmygrits/dontswallowgum.jpg


roflmao :67302:

[lovelaw]

:67302: Well I am in favor of drinking, especially today...but being resonsible I only drink at home...*alone...no DUI.


*See disclaimer

Ahhhhhhh....like George Thorogood...you drink alone!~

One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer!!~:zm10:

[Xmygrits]

I am the next thing to a teetotler. I probably have a drink once in a month or two. DH is recovering alcoholic.

Well I'll let you in on a lil secret of mine. I might have a drink 1-3 times a month and have gone 6 months with not a drop. I just like to talk big about drinking! My father, ex-husband, his father and my brother are/were all alcoholics. That part of drinking is not so funny, I know.

[dojewo]

I really like him!!~ I don't know if that is a popular opinion...but I really do!~

Hey...I was thinking...If this jury is "hung"...is MJ going to want pictures~?:grin:
I'm glad I woke up to some smiles! The headache and leg pain is still here though. What time did the clock appear?

[sciencegirl]

Oh, I need the wisn link again..please and thank you.

http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html

Mornin!! Browny - We are still waiting.

[kindee]

That would be VERY appropriate. And after the guilty verdict, how about "Who's Sorry Now?" :girl_haha:




Do you know Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone??????:girl_haha:

[Xmygrits]

Ahhhhhhh....like George Thorogood...you drink alone!~

One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer!!~:zm10:


I am a situational alcoholic. Today might qualify as a situation.

[kindee]

I'm glad I woke up to some smiles! The headache and leg pain is still here though. What time did the clock appear?




After SG got the tech dude out of a meeting to fix it, hahahahahaha! Maybe an hour ago???

[cavimom]

Is it safe to come out yet? http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/tanishx/peek.gif

[Cat]

Well I'll let you in on a lil secret of mine. I might have a drink 1-3 times a month and have gone 6 months with not a drop. I just like to talk big about drinking! My father, ex-husband, his father and my brother are/were all alcoholics. That part of drinking is not so funny, I know.

Oh, dear, your are right. Not funny at all. :love0085: My family on both sides has a history of alcoholism, BUT none of my immediate family were drinkers. Some did exhibit the dysfunction though. I can't tolerate much alcohol, so I'm very lucky. Are you an Al-Anon member?

[tbrito1]

Is it safe to come out yet? http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/tanishx/peek.gif

um, mark it that your peter????

[kindee]

Noooooooooooooooooooo! :1187603408.CR.Mothe




YEEEEEEEES! :doh: Not many people have even started cleaning up the trees from the mess of 2 weeks ago.

17 hours plus on the jury clock. *sigh*

[lovelaw]

ROTFLMAO!

Hey, you kow what? Mark had the time of his life yesterday, got to be out and about WAY past "lights-out".

I just LOVED it tho, when Albee had to ask the judge to let him go to the bathroom.

Imagine, being a grown man and having to get another man to ask a third man if you can go wizz.

Swabby

I bet he relished every moment!

He sure eyed up the jury when they came in last night!! I WISH Jean would have said if they looked at him...and HOW?!!!

That HAS to be humiliating!! He deserves humiliation!!~

[annalyzer]

daddy Boyles on TruTV......things must be slow for him LMAO but he said there's nothing to worry about.


Who is that?

[Cornblossom]

Oh did he? Hmmmmmm. Well, OK.

I'm going back and forth with the weather---we're getting another ICE storm heading our way tonight into the weekend.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
we got snow last night and it decided to stay.....he said the jury is just REALLY looking over the evidence

[browneyes]

Are the jurors at lunch yet?

[lovelaw]

Oh did he? Hmmmmmm. Well, OK.

I'm going back and forth with the weather---we're getting another ICE storm heading our way tonight into the weekend.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



Gerry Boyle always wants to be the calming voice, it seems to me.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO....not ANOTHER ice storm!!~:missing: Take care!

[cavimom]

Originally Posted by lovelaw
I really like him!!~ I don't know if that is a popular opinion...but I really do!~

Hey...I was thinking...If this jury is "hung"...is MJ going to want pictures~? :67302::67302: WOW im slow, I JUST got this!

[texaslinda]

and he said that mj asked twice!!!!


He just likes mens restrooms... For comparison purposes:67302:

[Orchid Corsage]

I just have to say this, MJ made Julie FRANTIC by giving her nicotine! He knew she was unhappy and depressed, but he HAD to put her over the brink to get her to see a doctor----which would fair better to all the folks after she would be found dead! A set up for over drugging her! Blame it all on Julie! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

Brings me to worry, these jurors it has been stated, all have had a connection in some way or another with mental problems/depression etc, so lets all pray together that one of them or a few of them are not associating their experiences and ignoring the EVIDENCE in THIS case! THAT could be happening, especially if they are of the self-centered type person/s!

Well good posters, I have to run out for awhile, be back Later! :022:

Hold the Fort! :)

[dojewo]

After SG got the tech dude out of a meeting to fix it, hahahahahaha! Maybe an hour ago???Good, I would rather look at a

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/dojewo/clogo.gif then a black screen.

[Cornblossom]

Who is that?
a Wisconsin lawyer...defended Dahmer and one of the cops in the frank Jude trial......Gerry Boyles

[kindee]

we got snow last night and it decided to stay.....he said the jury is just REALLY looking over the evidence




Thanks for the update. I like this pros. lady talking now. She's explaining a lot about the early history of deciding how and whether to prosecute Mark Jensen.


At least it's my day off and I can kick back and not worry about missing a verdict IF it ever comes in today.

[lovelaw]

I'm glad I woke up to some smiles! The headache and leg pain is still here though. What time did the clock appear?

Here's another::grin:

Awwww....I hope you feel better soon!:1222423:

About an hour ago or so...I'd guess.

17 hours of deliberation!~:0012:

[cavimom]

[SIZE="3"]

Well good posters, I have to run out for awhile, be back Later! :022:

Hold the Fort! :) HURRY BACK!

[bambam]

how come they haven't even come out for lunch?? it's 12:30 now!! i think they are just screwin with us and using another door or something... maybe another courtroom for all we know!!

[StoneFox]

Bringing this over from the last page in case anyone missed it. Here's an article on stealth jurors by Dan Abrams.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4653700/

After Spector and Taylor, I am a believer in the 'stealth juror' phenomenon.

The more I see this happen, the more I start to consider the professional juror concept.

:022:

[Xmygrits]

Oh, dear, your are right. Not funny at all. :love0085: My family on both sides has a history of alcoholism, BUT none of my immediate family were drinkers. Some did exhibit the dysfunction though. I can't tolerate much alcohol, so I'm very lucky. Are you an Al-Anon member?

No, that would require attending meetings!

I did remove myself from being around any of them so I really didn't have to deal with that kind of sickness first hand. I have my own addictive personality traits to deal with. Obviously I have a hankerin to follow trials and study up on criminal behaviors, then there is a slight shoe shopping addiction and maybe a little situational sex addiction that sucks (or not) when I am alone.

Phew! I feel so much better after coming forward with my illnesses! How theraputic is this place???? :22wink:

[annalyzer]

a Wisconsin lawyer...defended Dahmer and one of the cops in the frank Jude trial......Gerry Boyles


Oh yeah, you had to tell me once before. or someone did.

[dojewo]

Oh did he? Hmmmmmm. Well, OK.

I'm going back and forth with the weather---we're getting another ICE storm heading our way tonight into the weekend.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHKindee, stay safe my Bud. Sounds like you are getting banged with bad weather just like we are.

[cavimom]

Thanks for the update. I like this pros. lady talking now. She's explaining a lot about the early history of deciding how and whether to prosecute Mark Jensen.


At least it's my day off and I can kick back and not worry about missing a verdict IF it ever comes in today.
]

Me too day off.. So you KNOW it wont come in today! :mad: That would be too convienient!

[lovelaw]

I am a situational alcoholic. Today might qualify as a situation.

LOL!!~ It might for A LOT of people!~

[kellabeck]

Susan ______ worked with Jambois at the beginning of the case is talking to Jack Ford.

She said that Jambois was disturbed when he arrived at the Jensen home and found it was not being treated like a potential crime scene. He got it taped off. He thought that MJ was hinky early on b/c he had no probable cause for a search warrant so he asked for consent to search and asked to seize MJ's computer and MARK HESITATED.

She is giving an account of how the case sputtered along and how she and he would take the case with them to conferences and ask other prosecutors their opinions of the case as it stood-- was there enough to prosecute successfully?

Interesting.

[lovelaw]

Is it safe to come out yet? http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/tanishx/peek.gif

Here??? ALWAYS!!~:girl_haha:

[gramvof14]

I am the next thing to a teetotler. I probably have a drink once in a month or two. DH is recovering alcoholic.
I am with you Cat I don't like the taste of alcohol I take after my mom she never drank either I am coffee, coke and mostly water.:love0085:

[kellabeck]

After Spector and Taylor, I am a believer in the 'stealth juror' phenomenon.

The more I see this happen, the more I start to consider the professional juror concept.

:022:


I worry about that though they could be corrupted.

[Cornblossom]

how come they haven't even come out for lunch?? it's 12:30 now!! i think they are just screwin with us and using another door or something... maybe another courtroom for all we know!!they eat in the jury room.......but i think someone should come into the courtroom and say what they are doing...like on break or something......
Bailiff: Juror #9 just passed gas

[lovelaw]

I just have to say this, MJ made Julie FRANTIC by giving her nicotine! He knew she was unhappy and depressed, but he HAD to put her over the brink to get her to see a doctor----which would fair better to all the folks after she would be found dead! A set up for over drugging her! Blame it all on Julie! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

Brings me to worry, these jurors it has been stated, all have had a connection in some way or another with mental problems/depression etc, so lets all pray together that one of them or a few of them are not associating their experiences and ignoring the EVIDENCE in THIS case! THAT could be happening, especially if they are of the self-centered type person/s!

Well good posters, I have to run out for awhile, be back Later! :022:

Hold the Fort! :)


We'll all hope TOGETHER!~

Hurry back!~:0012:

[SavannahStar]

Sheesh and I thought this was a slam dunk guilty.

This is so weird!

[kindee]

Gerry Boyle always wants to be the calming voice, it seems to me.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO....not ANOTHER ice storm!!~:missing: Take care!




I think he really believes Mark Jensen is double-dog guilty.

We still have some snow on the ground from the last winter storm. I'm just not into another round of this mess. :0001:

[lovelaw]

Thanks for the update. I like this pros. lady talking now. She's explaining a lot about the early history of deciding how and whether to prosecute Mark Jensen.


At least it's my day off and I can kick back and not worry about missing a verdict IF it ever comes in today.

She IS good!~
And, how long things took.

WOO HOO!~ Let's hope!!!!:basic44:

[Cat]

No, that would require attending meetings!

I did remove myself from being around any of them so I really didn't have to deal with that kind of sickness first hand. I have my own addictive personality traits to deal with. Obviously I have a hankerin to follow trials and study up on criminal behaviors, then there is a slight shoe shopping addiction and maybe a little situational sex addiction that sucks (or not) when I am alone.

Phew! I feel so much better after coming forward with my illnesses! How theraputic is this place???? :22wink:

I confess: I am a chocoholic.

Yes, this group is very theraputic. It feels so safe here (just like a meeting).

[Xmygrits]

snipped
Bailiff: Juror #9 just passed gas

:s1gyahoo::67302:


Hey howz come all the smileys change positions over there------> everyday? And and and howz come the dude with the two thumbs up take every other day off? Hmmmm?

[cavimom]

they eat in the jury room.......but i think someone should come into the courtroom and say what they are doing...like on break or something......
Bailiff: Juror #9 just passed gas


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g89/lilkim98/smell.jpg

[Cornblossom]

I think he really believes Mark Jensen is double-dog guilty.

We still have some snow on the ground from the last winter storm. I'm just not into another round of this mess. :0001:
he said many times it looked good for the pros and he did believe the snitches

[DietCokeFan]

I really wish this jury would put a *hitch* in their giddy-up!

[kindee]

]

Me too day off.. So you KNOW it wont come in today! :mad: That would be too convienient!




You are so right. I thought if anything it might come in when I was at the doctor's this a.m. :girl_haha:

[dojewo]

Here's another::grin:

Awwww....I hope you feel better soon!:1222423:

About an hour ago or so...I'd guess.

17 hours of deliberation!~:0012:
Man, I feel like I was hit by a Mack truck today

[bambam]

Sheesh and I thought this was a slam dunk guilty.

This is so weird!

i don't think there is any such thing as "slam dunk" any more!! not with stealth jurors on every jury these days!!

[lovelaw]

Susan ______ worked with Jambois at the beginning of the case is talking to Jack Ford.

She said that Jambois was disturbed when he arrived at the Jensen home and found it was not being treated like a potential crime scene. He got it taped off. He thought that MJ was hinky early on b/c he had no probable cause for a search warrant so he asked for consent to search and asked to seize MJ's computer and MARK HESITATED.

She is giving an account of how the case sputtered along and how she and he would take the case with them to conferences and ask other prosecutors their opinions of the case as it stood-- was there enough to prosecute successfully?

Interesting.



Very interesting!~

[Swabby]

how come they haven't even come out for lunch?? it's 12:30 now!! i think they are just screwin with us and using another door or something... maybe another courtroom for all we know!!


OR maybe they are so close, that they think they will be able to eat dinner at home?

Hey, a gal can hope....

Swabby

[Cornblossom]

:s1gyahoo::67302:


Hey howz come all the smileys change positions over there------> everyday? And and and howz come the dude with the two thumbs up take every other day off? Hmmmm?

I just noticed that......hmmmmmmmmm

[StoneFox]

I worry about that though they could be corrupted.

Possible. I don't think any more than the lay 'stealth juror' with an agenda.

[TigressPen]

This jury can't, they just can't deliberate all day and into the night again!!

But, that they haven't come out with we are hung means they are hanging in there and talking.

[lovelaw]

they eat in the jury room.......but i think someone should come into the courtroom and say what they are doing...like on break or something......
Bailiff: Juror #9 just passed gas



ME TOO!! LOL!! ANYTHING!! I don't care what! Just give us a glimpse!~ Even if it's just gas!~:grin: Come to think of it...the entire defense CIC was just gas!!~

[Cornblossom]

Man, I feel like I was hit by a Mack truck today
it was NOT one of my drivers LMAO

[lovelaw]

Sheesh and I thought this was a slam dunk guilty.

This is so weird!

Same here!~

This is becoming standard operating procedure as of late!~ *sigh*

[DeeJay]

Man, I feel like I was hit by a Mack truck today

I must admit, I don't feel quite myself today.http://bestsmileys.com/tired/1.gif

[KellBell]

oooh the camera moved to the calendar

[TigressPen]

Clock went to calendar then back to clock!!

[kindee]

After Spector and Taylor, I am a believer in the 'stealth juror' phenomenon.

The more I see this happen, the more I start to consider the professional juror concept.

:022:




I don't think there is ANY doubt the phenomenon of stealth juror with a personal agenda is alive and well in our current judicial system. The higher the profile of the case, the more likely some freak will try and do some "social engineering" as that article stated. I don't know what the answer is but I don't see anything wrong with accepting an 11-1 or even a 10-2 vote in certain situations. I KNOW the defense industry will never go for that but it seems to me it's the only way to keep one moron from derailing a whole prosecution.

[KellBell]

The door is opening!!!!!!! I think.

[jcc]

I am here also still looking at the clock. God I need to get a life. hahaha:s1gyahoo::67302::francis:

Well, I gave up hours ago with the black screen.... deciding that I had better things to do than sit at my computer to wait and hope for clock to appear. I decided I'd rely on the TV. Just came back to my computer to see I've been missing CLOCK!!! When did they finally get it rolling? I guess its my fault for giving up. Now I feel like I missed something. Any big fireworks? How often have you seen any action?

[lovelaw]

I think he really believes Mark Jensen is double-dog guilty.

We still have some snow on the ground from the last winter storm. I'm just not into another round of this mess. :0001:

I believe that too. He'll usually say in an interview if he thinks the defendant is innocent. He can't stop himself, IMO. But, here, none of that!~

I wouldn't be either! I feel for you, friend!~:1222423:

[tbrito1]

The door is opening!!!!!!! I think.

the door is OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:basic44:

[KellBell]

COME ON JURY!!!!

TIME TO SEND THEM A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/judge-1.jpg

[lovelaw]

:s1gyahoo::67302:


Hey howz come all the smileys change positions over there------> everyday? And and and howz come the dude with the two thumbs up take every other day off? Hmmmm?

I thought I was nuts!! Thanks! I'm not the ONLY one!~ WHEW!~

[lovelaw]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g89/lilkim98/smell.jpg

:67302::67302:

[browneyes]

http://www.wisn.com/video/14992953/detail.html

Mornin!! Browny - We are still waiting.


Hi SG! How are you today? I want a verdict today...GUILTY!!

[dojewo]

it was NOT one of my drivers LMAOI thought of you Corny, thought for sure you would have a pic with a truck smashing a smiley. LOL

[kellabeck]

I just have to say this, MJ made Julie FRANTIC by giving her nicotine! He knew she was unhappy and depressed, but he HAD to put her over the brink to get her to see a doctor
SNIP


I hadn't thought of this, OC! But you could be right! He needed her to be going to the MD and getting meds which would then be the cause of her sudden, other unexplained, death.

[TigressPen]

the door is OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:basic44:



Yep Yep Yep!! Ooooo I hope they have reached a verdict.

[sciencegirl]

The door is opening!!!!!!! I think.

I know I heard a twinge of noise coming from WISN.

[Cornblossom]

the door is OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:basic44:
maybe Albee's wife just realized she kicked the dog out and kept him in the bed and he's arriving late LMAO

[lovelaw]

he said many times it looked good for the pros and he did believe the snitches



:zm10: And that doesn't come easy for him, IMO!~

[dojewo]

I must admit, I don't feel quite myself today.http://bestsmileys.com/tired/1.gifHopefully it's not that computer flu virus that some of are friendly posters have had.

[sciencegirl]

Hi SG! How are you today? I want a verdict today...GUILTY!!

I'm good Browny; but at this point; I'm just going to say it and get it off my chest.

I think they are at an impasse. They are hung; as much as I hate to say it.

[lovelaw]

Man, I feel like I was hit by a Mack truck today

:1222423:

http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gif

[StoneFox]

I don't think there is ANY doubt the phenomenon of stealth juror with a personal agenda is alive and well in our current judicial system. The higher the profile of the case, the more likely some freak will try and do some "social engineering" as that article stated. I don't know what the answer is but I don't see anything wrong with accepting an 11-1 or even a 10-2 vote in certain situations. I KNOW the defense industry will never go for that but it seems to me it's the only way to keep one moron from derailing a whole prosecution.

There ya go kindee...a majority vote. I'm liking that a lot. :hifive:

[Details]

One more of my relax posts here - they've had weeks of testimony. 2 days, 3 days, a week, is not an abnormal time to deliberate. Imagine you are making a decision that may cost a man his life, for all practical purposes - you want to be quite sure you've overlooked nothing, that you've forgotten nothing, that there isn't some bit of testimony from week 1, that when you are reminded of it, will make you realize he's innocent! This is something you do not want to regret, so you take time to be sure. It's a very serious thing, to be a juror on a murder trial.

I think they're doing just fine.

[lovelaw]

OR maybe they are so close, that they think they will be able to eat dinner at home?

Hey, a gal can hope....

Swabby



KEEP HOPE ALIVE!~

[lovelaw]

This jury can't, they just can't deliberate all day and into the night again!!

But, that they haven't come out with we are hung means they are hanging in there and talking.

I hooooooooooooope not!~

I agree!~ They haven't given up!~ :zm10:

[Swabby]

oooh the camera moved to the calendar

LOL,

We are all still so punch drunk from last night, that we are very easily entertained.

When I go out to smoke, I sit on my front porch and pretend that I am Mark Jensen, and that in literally minutes or hours I will know if that freedom will be lost to me forever. Gives me enough oomph to sit back down and watch that @#$% clock.:D

Swabby

[kellabeck]

All the sensible CDA THs have acknowledged the strength of the prosecution case and the uphill nature of the defense. One said the prosecution case was "monumental." Another said today that he would not have been surprised had they come back with a few hours.

[kindee]

Well, I gave up hours ago with the black screen.... deciding that I had better things to do than sit at my computer to wait and hope for clock to appear. I decided I'd rely on the TV. Just came back to my computer to see I've been missing CLOCK!!! When did they finally get it rolling? I guess its my fault for giving up. Now I feel like I missed something. Any big fireworks? How often have you seen any action?





NOTHING but the clock and it moving now and then. nuttin nuttin nuttin. :000:

They do have a request

Julie's log and calendar? Her best friend's calendar?

Oh for crying out loud.

there is a holdout who just can't be convinced.


Oh my God. They are wanting things of Julie's that aren't even in evidence. *sigh*

[lovelaw]

I must admit, I don't feel quite myself today.http://bestsmileys.com/tired/1.gif


AWWwwwwwwww.....you too!~:1222423:



http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gif

[StoneFox]

Live

[lovelaw]

Noise!~

[johnielee333]

we are live

[bambam]

gosh dang it! i waited around all morning, staring at this stupid clock and being bored outa my friggin mind....now i need to go get some groceries and run a coupla errands.. and i'm skeered to leave, case i miss something!!!!! what if it happens while i'm gone?? oh... what to do what to do... here it is!!!

[dojewo]

:1222423:

http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gifhttp://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/dojewo/thankyou.gif

[KellBell]

new requests geesh

[sciencegirl]

Requested by jury

Julies log/diary
Julie's best friend's calendar

[cavimom]

COME ON JURY!!!!

TIME TO SEND THEM A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/ksquare71/judge-1.jpg


:67302:

[bambam]

more requests!!! they're not close then!

[cavimom]

we are live!

[gramvof14]

Well, I gave up hours ago with the black screen.... deciding that I had better things to do than sit at my computer to wait and hope for clock to appear. I decided I'd rely on the TV. Just came back to my computer to see I've been missing CLOCK!!! When did they finally get it rolling? I guess its my fault for giving up. Now I feel like I missed something. Any big fireworks? How often have you seen any action?
not till just now nothing all morning

[shortcake]

they are just being thorough i think. taking a piece at a time. it's a lot to take in. this is a good jury ladies.

[kellabeck]

a request from the jury
Julie's log/diaries/calendar
JJ's best friend's diary from Dr Spiro's testimony

They are discussing things. I am not clear what the items are.

[Kara]

I'm getting worried now.....

[lovelaw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kindee
I don't think there is ANY doubt the phenomenon of stealth juror with a personal agenda is alive and well in our current judicial system. The higher the profile of the case, the more likely some freak will try and do some "social engineering" as that article stated. I don't know what the answer is but I don't see anything wrong with accepting an 11-1 or even a 10-2 vote in certain situations. I KNOW the defense industry will never go for that but it seems to me it's the only way to keep one moron from derailing a whole prosecution.
*************************



I couldn't agree MORE!~

[bambam]

gosh it's so nice to have some sound in my house right now, even if it's albee!!!!! yea! (my cable's out on my tv remember)

[Xmygrits]

Oh CRAP!!! The jurors are asking for evidence that Albee has no problem with going back and he is smiling like a dog that just ate a cat turd. This is NOT good.

[kindee]

I hooooooooooooope not!~

I agree!~ They haven't given up!~ :zm10:




Why don't they just say a juror would like to see the videotape of Mark killing Julie...or not...and get on with it?

[cavimom]

ALbee us STILL being difficult@!http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kimberlyjo1/HangMan.gif

[JoolzRoolz]

Julie's calendar not in evidence - Jambois moves to admit it. Albee objected. Judge seems to agree with Albee.

[TigressPen]

NOTHING but the clock and it moving now and then. nuttin nuttin nuttin. :000:

They do have a request

Julie's log and calendar? Her best friend's calendar?

Oh for crying out loud.

there is a holdout who just can't be convinced.


Oh my God. They are wanting things of Julie's that aren't even in evidence. *sigh*


It was brought up in trial but wasn't entered into evidence. :( I am worried about them wanting all these logs. Agree with you. I think we have a holdout that needs convincing.

[Bernie]

they are just being thorough i think. taking a piece at a time. it's a lot to take in. this is a good jury ladies.

I totally agree with you .....:howdy:

[cavimom]

Why don't they just say a juror would like to see the videotape of Mark killing Julie...or not...and get on with it? :67302::67302:

[annalyzer]

a request from the jury
Julie's log/diaries/calendar
JJ's best friend's diary from Dr Spiro's testimony

They are discussing things. I am not clear what the items are.


Julie's best friend? Who was that and why would they have her diary? :confused:

[lovelaw]

Why don't they just say a juror would like to see the videotape of Mark killing Julie...or not...and get on with it?

That seems to be about the size of it!~ GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrr

[Xmygrits]

Why don't they just say a juror would like to see the videotape of Mark killing Julie...or not...and get on with it?


For real. GMAFB!

[bambam]

i had hope... changed my attitude this morning after some sleep.... but now.. i'm losin faith again

[kellabeck]

The are getting the former and not the latter.

[Details]

I don't think there is ANY doubt the phenomenon of stealth juror with a personal agenda is alive and well in our current judicial system. The higher the profile of the case, the more likely some freak will try and do some "social engineering" as that article stated. I don't know what the answer is but I don't see anything wrong with accepting an 11-1 or even a 10-2 vote in certain situations. I KNOW the defense industry will never go for that but it seems to me it's the only way to keep one moron from derailing a whole prosecution.Even without stealth jurors, in any crowd, there's a chance of an idiot. Lots of places do have juries that do not need to be unanimous to come to a verdict. I think we could, but changing it would be difficult, and you know that innocent people, saved from conviction by one or two stubborn jurors, would be pulled out to speak against the change. And it'd be real - a change to make it easier to convict the guilty can indeed lead to a few more innocents accidentally convicted. That happens no matter what - we have to decide how many innocents per guilty we will take - there will always be some no matter what. The question is only, how many.

[kindee]

I'm good Browny; but at this point; I'm just going to say it and get it off my chest.

I think they are at an impasse. They are hung; as much as I hate to say it.




these new requests show someone just can't be convinced imo.

NOTHING in evidence is going to bring the PROOF they are looking for. They want it on video and it's just not.

[sciencegirl]

Why don't they just say a juror would like to see the videotape of Mark killing Julie...or not...and get on with it?

And there you have it!!!! The jurors in Orange Taylor's case pretty much had a video; and they hung.

[cavimom]

OH SHUT UP ALBEE http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa179/Kimberlyjo1/HangMan.gif

[JoolzRoolz]

Jambois not fighting to admit the calendar into evidence so he must not think it's all that important or he sees this is a fight he cannot win because it wasn't admitted to evidence during the trial.

[jcc]

Well I'll let you in on a lil secret of mine. I might have a drink 1-3 times a month and have gone 6 months with not a drop. I just like to talk big about drinking! My father, ex-husband, his father and my brother are/were all alcoholics. That part of drinking is not so funny, I know.

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.

[kellabeck]

Julie's best friend? Who was that and why would they have her diary? :confused:

I don't know!!

[KellBell]

well if they were hung up at least they are arguing to that person about Mark's 7 years of stalking.

[kindee]

Julie's best friend? Who was that and why would they have her diary? :confused:




I don't get that one either. Julie's best friend's diary?

Just goofy stuff now.

[cavimom]

OK I have to admit that I am HAPPY something is happening! :rolleye0001:

[jcc]

Jambois not fighting to admit the calendar into evidence so he must not think it's all that important or he sees this is a fight he cannot win because it wasn't admitted to evidence during the trial.


Yeah.... I'm seeing action! I feel back in the loop.

[Cornblossom]

It was brought up in trial but wasn't entered into evidence. :( I am worried about them wanting all these logs. Agree with you. I think we have a holdout that needs convincing.
say hello to my leeeeeetle convincer LMAO
http://bestsmileys.com/shooting1/25.gif

[lovelaw]

What bothers me is that they've taken the BEST of the evidence back there ALREADY...and it didn't do the job. HOW will THIS??????

Ohhhhhh, man, I feel sick!~

[Swabby]

a request from the jury
Julie's log/diaries/calendar
JJ's best friend's diary from Dr Spiro's testimony

They are discussing things. I am not clear what the items are.

Good Grief!

WTH?

They might as well order a box of hickory nuts for lunch, they are going to be in there FOREVER!

CRAP!

Swabby

[sciencegirl]

these new requests show someone just can't be convinced imo.

NOTHING in evidence is going to bring the PROOF they are looking for. They want it on video and it's just not.

Agree Kindee. That's all they are trying to do is to prove to one juror. They must be pulling their hair out. I swore after Spector's jury hung; I would never watch another trial; and look where we are now. Verging on another hung jury.

I don't believe they are going over this case JUST to be through. Votes have been taken by now; and they are split; likely 11-1

[lovelaw]

say hello to my leeeeeetle convincer LMAO
http://bestsmileys.com/shooting1/25.gif


:zm10:

[cavimom]

I don't get that one either. Julie's best friend's diary?

Just goofy stuff now.


Because it said all kinds of NICE mushy stuff... remeber albee said she kept the psalm and ONE death saying.. the Jambois said..You didt mention these nice sayings did you? :22wink:

[Cat]

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.

:love0085: You've been through a lot. God bless you.

[Bernie]

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.

Sorry to hear of your sad time ......same happened to my grandmother who died at 58..:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[StoneFox]

Oh CRAP!!! The jurors are asking for evidence that Albee has no problem with going back and he is smiling like a dog that just ate a cat turd. This is NOT good.

:girl_haha: :67302: You say the funniest things!!

I am ROTFLMAO!!!

[kindee]

And there you have it!!!! The jurors in Orange Taylor's case pretty much had a video; and they hung.



yep. They did have a video (so did the Martin Anderson Boot Camp jury) and a stealth idiot hung it.

Maybe when people realize these jurors are putting killers back on the streets and in their communities they will pay some attention.

[Xmygrits]

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.


I'm sorry.

Today it is clear as a bell to me that life sometimes "ain't fair".

For you :1222423:

[browneyes]

I'm good Browny; but at this point; I'm just going to say it and get it off my chest.

I think they are at an impasse. They are hung; as much as I hate to say it.


I hope not! Remember how long the Scott Peterson jury took? How long was that anyway??? :waitasec:

[gramvof14]

Julie's calendar not in evidence - Jambois moves to admit it. Albee objected. Judge seems to agree with Albee.
I thought it was in evidence when they showed it I said it looks like mine with all the days marked for things she had to do.:eyebrow1qb:

[Kara]

So...if the jury hangs, didn't the judge say he would not scedule a retrial before the supreme court rules on that letter from the grave issue?

Can Mark be held without a trial for that long (legally)??

[bambam]

i'm outa here!! see y'all later, that's all i can take for now... this makes me sick!!

[annalyzer]

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.

I feel for you. :1222423:

I watched my husband die of lung cancer in 2003 and now my mom with Alzheimer's.

[KellBell]

And there you have it!!!! The jurors in Orange Taylor's case pretty much had a video; and they hung.

I don't think that woman on the OT jury was hung because she was an engineer. She was never going to send a black man to jail IMO. I just got that vibe from her.

[lovelaw]

My mom was an alcoholic, too. Died from liver failure just last May. And, I got to witness some pretty nasty withdrawals, too. One of the times it took her six weeks to even be able to walk again, then 3 weeks of inpatient treatment for alcoholism, but she remained sober for a few years after that. Then there were one or two more times.... the last time she was hallucinating for over ten days... saw the craziest things... but at some point she knew to ask ... was that real or a hallucination? Tremors so bad those first days she couldn't feed herself. Anyway...things nobody should ever have to see. The last time she ended up with liver cancer associated with alcoholic cirrhosis... we weren't even going to treat it, but she improved, was treated... and lived her last two years out. The liver never returned, she remained sober, but the liver finally gave out anyway. Whew! She literally 'almost died' at least five times....needing major transfusions, etc.

It is bad stuff... really. We just cut back again at home to only Fri and Sat nights, and I try to hold to a two drink limit. And we took two weeks off at the New Year.



:1222423::1222423:

[kellabeck]

I have to leave the house for a couple of hours in a half hour and so I am thinking that that's when the verdict will come down! I am basing this opinion on my CheckOut Theorem: whichever line I get on, that will be the one with a problem and a big delay.


Albee wants to discuss dinner and how they should proceed.

[sciencegirl]

I don't get that one either. Julie's best friend's diary?

Just goofy stuff now.

Remember how highly Albee relied on this one quote in the calendar which was about psalm about death. It appeared on one page of the calendar. All the other pages of the calendar had light hearted quotes.

[kindee]

What bothers me is that they've taken the BEST of the evidence back there ALREADY...and it didn't do the job. HOW will THIS??????

Ohhhhhh, man, I feel sick!~




Because the holdout needs ONE more thing. Not what they have now, as you say.

Cannot be convinced, period.

[lovelaw]

Because it said all kinds of NICE mushy stuff... remeber albee said she kept the psalm and ONE death saying.. the Jambois said..You didt mention these nice sayings did you? :22wink:

Ahhhhhh....good!~

[sciencegirl]

Albee wants that jury to go home early again. Oh brother!!!! Stop worrying about those jurors Albee; they're adults and can make decisions on their own.

[StoneFox]

Albee arguing for an eight hour day again. I thought judge said it was up to the jury and they should not be coerced per Albee's original argument.

MAN...Albee gets my fur up!!!

[KellBell]

Julie's best friend? Who was that and why would they have her diary? :confused:

NO it was a BEST FRIENDS calendar. Had Best friend type quotes and sayings and verses in it.

[KellBell]

Wow, I am already tired of hearing Albee.

[JoolzRoolz]

My mom was an alcoholic, too.
<snip for space>


My mom was, too. She never had withdrawels that I remember. She did a stint or two in rehab and stopped drinking a couple of times in my childhood. That wasn't her biggest problem though. My mother was mainly mentally ill. She abused us mentally and emotionally and sometimes physically. She died last year as well but I had not talked to her for 10 yrs prior... At the time I was facing problems in my marriage, in therapy for severe clinical depression, and just couldn't take her calling me drunk and adding to my problems. Anyway...

{{{{jc}}}}

[Cat]

I feel for you. :1222423:

I watched my husband die of lung cancer in 2003 and now my mom with Alzheimer's.

:love0085: ann. So sorry about your husband and mom. God bless you.

[kellabeck]

Ooh, Albee is speaking in favor of the "one individual" should be allowed, if they can't make it through a long day, to not have to fight the majority!!

ALBEE SUSPECTS A HOLD OUT. AND HE MUST REALIZE THE MAJORITY ARE G's!!!!

I have never heard of a requirement for unanimity for the jurors to ask for a break says the Judge.

[Xmygrits]

What bothers me is that they've taken the BEST of the evidence back there ALREADY...and it didn't do the job. HOW will THIS??????

Ohhhhhh, man, I feel sick!~


Listening to Albee argue to allow the jury to leave early today if they are "tired" makes me think, he is wanting to protect his hold out and keep the rest from pressuring the hold out and keep the possibility of being under duress this idiot will fold and a guilty will come down. I have a feelin about this!!!!!!!!

[lovelaw]

Albee wants to sneak in a way of communicating to the hold out/s that they should tell the Judge if they are being coerced! He doesn't care if they are tired, or hungry!! JERK!~

[StoneFox]

Because the holdout needs ONE more thing. Not what they have now, as you say.

Cannot be convinced, period.

Yep, they have a stealth juror too!!!

No amount of evidence at this point is going to make a difference.

When does the judge ask them if there is a problem?

[sciencegirl]

Because the holdout needs ONE more thing. Not what they have now, as you say.

Cannot be convinced, period.

That one more think that juror needs is his 15 minutes of fame. Period.

[cavimom]

what did i miss?? i ran upstairs to grab something and came back to ?losing a juror?

[browneyes]

I'm getting worried now.....


Uh oh, if you are worried....I should be worried.

I got your hair product today....I'll bring it to lunch next Tuesday.

[Cat]

My mom was, too. She never had withdrawels that I remember. She did a stint or two in rehab and stopped drinking a couple of times in my childhood. That wasn't her biggest problem though. My mother was mainly mentally ill. She abused us mentally and emotionally and sometimes physically. She died last year as well but I had not talked to her for 10 yrs prior... At the time I was facing problems in my marriage, in therapy for severe clinical depression, and just couldn't take her calling me drunk and adding to my problems. Anyway...

{{{{jc}}}}

:love0085: :1222423:

[annalyzer]

It was brought up in trial but wasn't entered into evidence. :( I am worried about them wanting all these logs. Agree with you. I think we have a holdout that needs convincing.

Is it the logs Julie kept of all the phone calls and porn left everywhere?

[KellBell]

Albee must be on an hourly rate..lol he is really trying to stretch this out. HEHEHE

[Xmygrits]

Ooh, Albee is speaking in favor of the "one individual" should be allowed, if they can't make it through a long day, to not have to fight the majority!!

ALBEE SUSPECTS A HOLD OUT. AND HE MUST REALIZE THE MAJORITY ARE G's!!!!

I have never heard of a requirement for unanimity for the jurors to ask for a break says the Judge.


We did a simi post saying pretty much the same thing! Scary huh?

[jcc]

One more of my relax posts here - they've had weeks of testimony. 2 days, 3 days, a week, is not an abnormal time to deliberate. Imagine you are making a decision that may cost a man his life, for all practical purposes - you want to be quite sure you've overlooked nothing, that you've forgotten nothing, that there isn't some bit of testimony from week 1, that when you are reminded of it, will make you realize he's innocent! This is something you do not want to regret, so you take time to be sure. It's a very serious thing, to be a juror on a murder trial.

I think they're doing just fine.

I agree. I was thinking that same thing. There is a man's freedom at stake, but I just hope they keep equal sight of Julie... who already lost her life. It made me realize they didn't really use a picture of Julie, did they? To remember the person that is gone?

But, I am more at ease today, that they are just dotting their i's and crossing their t's.... to review and consider all the evidence. There is a lot to go through.

[lovelaw]

Listening to Albee argue to allow the jury to leave early today if they are "tired" makes me think, he is wanting to protect his hold out and keep the rest from pressuring the hold out and keep the possibility of being under duress this idiot will fold and a guilty will come down. I have a feelin about this!!!!!!!!


YEP! YEP!! I just posted something similar!~

[Cornblossom]

So...if the jury hangs, didn't the judge say he would not scedule a retrial before the supreme court rules on that letter from the grave issue?

Can Mark be held without a trial for that long (legally)??he has had his trial....so yes:0012:

[bambam]

albee is overly concerned about the jurors and "their" well-being...yeah, right more like "his/her" well being i suspect. are the lawyers always this concerned about jurors and about how long they stay, and when they eat etc etc this seems weird

[JoolzRoolz]

I cannot believe Albee and his arguments re: the jury. Something is wrong with that.

[sciencegirl]

NO it was a BEST FRIENDS calendar. Had Best friend type quotes and sayings and verses in it.

There was a psalm about death that Albee battered home; the rest of the quotes were just cute little sayings. These quotes and the psalm were imprinted on the calendar.

[KellBell]

what did i miss?? i ran upstairs to grab something and came back to ?losing a juror?

No nothing like that at all

[dojewo]

I lost wisn, did anybody else?

[shortcake]

they just asked for mj's medical records

[johnielee333]

i lost my feed

[lost indie]

anyone else lose feed?

[mitch]

I lost wisn, did anybody else?

i did too.

[annalyzer]

NO it was a BEST FRIENDS calendar. Had Best friend type quotes and sayings and verses in it.


Oh. Never heard of one of those.

[Xmygrits]

YEP! YEP!! I just posted something similar!~

"WE" are in trouble!

[sciencegirl]

I lost wisn, did anybody else?

Yup; lost it.

[jcc]

NOTHING but the clock and it moving now and then. nuttin nuttin nuttin. :000:
*

Thanks! Glad I didn't miss much... but I just lost my clock again!

[lost indie]

i did too.

we've been watching clock and now we lose feed...

[KellBell]

There was a psalm about death that Albee battered home; the rest of the quotes were just cute little sayings. These quotes and the psalm were imprinted on the calendar.

Could you imagine someone with a Dilbert calendar. According to Albee they might be capable of workplace violence. He will twist anything.

[JoolzRoolz]

I lost wisn, did anybody else?

mfile dropped too.

[Cat]

I lost the feed, too. :shock:

[mitch]

refresh i just got it back.

[gramvof14]

me too and I tried all of them nothing

[dojewo]

i lost my feed
Me too, is it on CNN?

[shortcake]

i lost mfile and wisn doesn't have a feed either.

[kindee]

One more of my relax posts here - they've had weeks of testimony. 2 days, 3 days, a week, is not an abnormal time to deliberate. Imagine you are making a decision that may cost a man his life, for all practical purposes - you want to be quite sure you've overlooked nothing, that you've forgotten nothing, that there isn't some bit of testimony from week 1, that when you are reminded of it, will make you realize he's innocent! This is something you do not want to regret, so you take time to be sure. It's a very serious thing, to be a juror on a murder trial.

I think they're doing just fine.


It's not how long they've been out, it's the stuff they are requesting.


I hope you are right but this is just too reminiscent of recent trials that have gone pear shaped on us.

had to reboot but got the feeds back...

[johnielee333]

i got the feed back

[jcc]

not till just now nothing all morning
I had good timing then...lol...must have been pyschic

Thanks!