Bobby Cuts Sentencing Phase Starts 2/25/08

[Texas53]

Bobby Cuts Sentencing Phase Starts 2/25/08

Don't forget that the sentencing phase for Cutts starts tomorrow (Monday).

[Trailblazer]

Bobby Cuts Sentencing Phase Starts 2/25/08

Don't forget that the sentencing phase for Cutts starts tomorrow (Monday).

Thanks for the heads up...I almost forgot....

I have it now on TruTV

[sciencegirl]

I've got it on TTV also; does anyone know if there is a Live Feed for this. We're going to miss half of it with TH's and commercials.

TIA :0012:

OMG!!! Linda Kenney Baden is on with Lisa. Looks like she cleaned up her roots!!!

[Roamer]

I had forgotten it, too. Thanks for the reminder.

[DeeJay]

Try these links:

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

http://mfile.akamai.com/25240/live/r...935.asx?prop=n

[DeeJay]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

[DeeJay]

Not one person is going to speak for Jessie? :shock:

[chambord]

I just tuned in. Is his mother the first one to take the stand? Have I missed anyone?

[StoneFox]

Not one person is going to speak for Jessie? :shock:

WHAT :shock:

I can't believe that. Wouldn't her mom want to speak?
WOW! I find that shocking.

Just tuning in here.

[DeeJay]

I just tuned in. Is his mother the first one to take the stand? Have I missed anyone?


Yes & yes. No, you haven't missed anyone. NO one's speaking on Jessie behalf.....I am floored! :faintTHUD:

[StoneFox]

I've got it on TTV also; does anyone know if there is a Live Feed for this. We're going to miss half of it with TH's and commercials.

TIA :0012:

OMG!!! Linda Kenney Baden is on with Lisa. Looks like she cleaned up her roots!!!

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

LKB looks like she got an eye lift and a nose job too. :girl_haha:

[DeeJay]

WHAT :shock:

I can't believe that. Wouldn't her mom want to speak?
WOW! I find that shocking.

Just tuning in here.


Yes, when OS were over, the pros said,
"The prosecution rests."

[chambord]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

LKB looks like she got an eye lift and a nose job too. :girl_haha:

Courtesy of Phil Spector, no doubt.

[Texas53]

Right now they are hearing people who knew Bobby. This is his mother. She doesn't seem enthused about answering anything.

[StoneFox]

Courtesy of Phil Spector, no doubt.

Touche` chambord. I think you hit that right on the NOSE! :zm10:

[StoneFox]

Right now they are hearing people who knew Bobby. This is his mother. She doesn't seem enthused about answering anything.

Makes me wonder how much GOOD there is to hear about BCutts.

[sciencegirl]

Notice how truly emotional he is now when his mother talks about his kids, etc. Are you crying for the child you murdered Bobby? I doubt it. Crying for himself as all of murder suspects do.

He literally make me sick to my stomach.:puke:

[dojewo]

Oh I forgot this was today!

[Texas53]

Makes me wonder how much GOOD there is to hear about BCutts.


I guess the abuse excuse won't work for Cutts, huh. (if he plans on using it now that his mother said he was normal).

[sciencegirl]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

LKB looks like she got an eye lift and a nose job too. :girl_haha:

She looks like she needs a pimp :67302:

[sciencegirl]

Why did they skip over the physical/mental issues when they went to sidebar? Or did I just miss it.

[Try2Win]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

LKB looks like she got an eye lift and a nose job too. :girl_haha:

A lot of woman her age get plastic surgery. :a1chic:

[chambord]

Touche` chambord. I think you hit that right on the NOSE! :zm10:

She reminds me of a blonde Elvira now.

[DeeJay]

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?cat=10


'We can expect up to 16 witnesses to testify this week as defense attorneys try
to convince jurors not to sentence their client to death.

Only one witness, psychologist John Matthew Fabian, can be photographed.

The prosecution has no witnesses; only the defense.
Among those witnesses includes Cutts’ mother, Renee Jones,
and father, Bobby L. Cutts, Sr.

[chambord]

A lot of woman her age get plastic surgery. :a1chic:

Maybe true, but when its overdone your facial expressions freeze. Look at Meg Ryan.

[kindee]

Notice how truly emotional he is now when his mother talks about his kids, etc. Are you crying for the child you murdered Bobby? I doubt it. Crying for himself as all of murder suspects do.

He literally make me sick to my stomach.:puke:




Did she even mention Jessie? I tuned in when she'd already started talking but I didn't hear her mention her?

[StoneFox]

She looks like she needs a pimp :67302:

:girl_haha: :67302: :nocomment:

[sciencegirl]

I can understand why the mother wasn't shown on TTV; but why isn't the teacher being shown? If a person wants to get up and defend a murderer; they may as well shout it to the world and be on national tv.

[kindee]

I can understand why the mother wasn't shown on TTV; but why isn't the teacher being shown? If a person wants to get up and defend a murderer; they may as well shout it to the world and be on national tv.



ITA. I guess they aren't so proud to be there are they?

[chambord]

I can understand why the mother wasn't shown on TTV; but why isn't the teacher being shown? If a person wants to get up and defend a murderer; they may as well shout it to the world and be on national tv.

I agree.

[StoneFox]

Maybe true, but when its overdone your facial expressions freeze. Look at Meg Ryan.

When they don't look like themselves any longer, I think it is a problem. They get over-stretched and tucked. Meg Ryan is a good example that once is never enough. Once they start, they keep going back.

IMO, of course. :)

[DeeJay]

Did she even mention Jessie? I tuned in when she'd already started talking but I didn't hear her mention her?

No, she did not mentioned a word about Jessie....Didn't get near her name. Matter of fact no one has.

[sciencegirl]

I also want to know what this incident is that almost kept him from getting his college scholarship. The teacher mentioned it; so I assume the proscutor can ask about it; right?

[kindee]

No, she did not mentioned a word about Jessie....Didn't get near her name. Matter of fact no one has.




That's what I thought.

And is it TRUE no impact statements from the victim's family? What's up with that?

[kellabeck]

The prosecution didn't put on any witnesses? Do they believe the guilt phase was enough, do you suppose? The crime itself is aggravating enough?

And they are not broadcasting the faces of people standing up for Bobby?? WHY??

Considering that Bobby's time is going to be hard regardless. And considering that he is going to die in prison, personally I hope he gets LWOP, especially from an all-white jury for a black defendant and a white and mixed race victim.

And may I add: how very nauseating to see Linda KB again. Peh!!!

[DeeJay]

I can understand why the mother wasn't shown on TTV; but why isn't the teacher being shown? If a person wants to get up and defend a murderer; they may as well shout it to the world and be on national tv.

Personal perference or judge's order? :0009:

Only one witness, psychologist John Matthew Fabian, can be photographed.

[sciencegirl]

That's what I thought.

And is it TRUE no impact statements from the victim's family? What's up with that?

Hey ya Kindee

I tried to PM you over the weekend and I kept looking for Kindeekat. Geeesh!! Never thought of looking for just Kindee

[DeeJay]

That's what I thought.

And is it TRUE no impact statements from the victim's family? What's up with that?


Nothing on Jessie's behalf....cept for the pros statements in opening/closing.

This is all done very strange in this trial and courtroom. VERY strange.

[kindee]

Nothing on Jessie's behalf....cept for the pros statements in opening/closing.

This is all done very strange in this trial and courtroom. VERY strange.



that STINKS!

[DeeJay]

The prosecution didn't put on any witnesses? Do they believe the guilt phase was enough, do you suppose? The crime itself is aggravating enough?

And they are not broadcasting the faces of people standing up for Bobby?? WHY??

Considering that Bobby's time is going to be hard regardless. And considering that he is going to die in prison, personally I hope he gets LWOP, especially from an all-white jury for a black defendant and a white and mixed race victim.

And may I add: how very nauseating to see Linda KB again. Peh!!!

NO witnesses from the pros....check my posts.

[Try2Win]

I do, we know 100% he is the killer.

[sciencegirl]

No questions????? What in the heck was this "incident" in school? Why wouldn't the prosecutor have asked about it.

[dojewo]

That's what I thought.

And is it TRUE no impact statements from the victim's family? What's up with that?
I can't believe it, I would think her family would be up there in full force

[Texas53]

No questions????? What in the heck was this "incident" in school? Why wouldn't the prosecutor have asked about it.


That teacher had to really think about how she worded her statements. The Defense is really stretching so far. IMO

[Roamer]

Reminds me of the Westerfield and Scott Peterson trials. They have to reach back 20 years to find someone to say something good about them.

[kellabeck]

Perhaps they have Bobby's golf instructor from 20 years ago to say what a polite boy he was...

[Try2Win]

Barbara Eden IMO

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001174/

[dojewo]

Perhaps they have Bobby's golf instructor from 20 years ago to say what a polite boy he was...I did think this was a little over the edge to go that far back, 4th and 5th grade teacher. Most kids have teachers that will say good things about them at that age.

[DeeJay]

I can't believe it, I would think her family would be up there in full force


Passed up their golden opportunity to speak on the behalf of Jessie. I do not get it. :francis:

[dojewo]

Passed up their golden opportunity to speak on the behalf of Jessie. I do not get it. :francis:If she was my family member, there would be no one that could hold me down from making a statement.

[sciencegirl]

Passed up their golden opportunity to speak on the behalf of Jessie. I do not get it. :francis:

I don't get it at all. I've never seen a victim's family not speak at a sentencing.

[Texas53]

I was a juror on a murder trial once where we convicter the guy. In the sentencing phase, first we heard from the Defendents side. Then we heard from the victims side. I'm guessing that they will do that in Ohio. We do that here in Texas.

[kellabeck]

Lisa and Vinnie are talking about the limitations the state has, that they cannot go beyond the aggravating factors already in evidence.

Aside to Kindee: Did you ever see GASLIGHT.

[DeeJay]

I don't get it at all. I've never seen a victim's family not speak at a sentencing.

Nor I. This is & has been the strangest trial. :waitasec:

[sciencegirl]

I was a juror on a murder trial once where we convicter the guy. In the sentencing phase, first we heard from the Defendents side. Then we heard from the victims side. I'm guessing that they will do that in Ohio. We do that here in Texas.

The judge already asked the prosecutor first today if he had any witnesses and he said "no". Strange; isn't it?

[DeeJay]

I was a juror on a murder trial once where we convicter the guy. In the sentencing phase, first we heard from the Defendents side. Then we heard from the victims side. I'm guessing that they will do that in Ohio. We do that here in Texas.


But Mr. Barr said up front, "The prosecution rests."

I've seen other trials from Ohio and they were conducted
like others we always see.

[sciencegirl]

Say What??? Is Beth saying this is an entirely different jury hearing the sentencing case? Surely not!!!

[DeeJay]

Say What??? Is Beth saying this is an entirely different jury hearing the sentencing case? Surely not!!!


She surely misspoke. I distinctly heard the judge tell the
jury to be back on Feb. 25th.

[sciencegirl]

She surely misspoke. I distinctly heard the judge tell the
jury to be back on Feb. 25th.

Oh; thanks. I probably mis-heard Beth.


So, now Bobby's sista has a child out of wedlock also. Nice family values. Now sista says the father of her son wasn't around for a couple of years because he was in jail. My, my, my!!!!!

[chambord]

Reminds me of the Westerfield and Scott Peterson trials. They have to reach back 20 years to find someone to say something good about them.

So true. In Scott's case they had to rely on his golf technique.

[DeeJay]

Oh; thanks. I probably mis-heard Beth.


So, now Bobby's sista has a child out of wedlock also. Nice family values. Now sista says the father of her son wasn't around for a couple of years because he was in jail. My, my, my!!!!!

I heard all that too.....:faintTHUD:

And was thinking the same thing as you.

[chambord]

Its difficult to understand the sister. Is she saying Bobby had seizures or her son?

[Try2Win]

Its difficult to understand the sister. Is she saying Bobby had seizures or her son?

sis has the seizures

[sciencegirl]

Anyone know if Jamie thinks Cutts is innocent?:67302:

[sciencegirl]

Its difficult to understand the sister. Is she saying Bobby had seizures or her son?

I think the sister had the seizures.

[Roamer]

I'm not impressed hearing what a good dad Bobby was. He wasn't a good dad to the baby he murdered, or to the son he left along with his mother's dead body.

[Tracian]

Yeah, Bobby is a great guy.....except for those pesky little murders of two people, he is just swell....GMAB

[DeeJay]

Anyone know if Jamie thinks Cutts is innocent?:67302:


Nah...she likely buys the story of it was an accident...Backarmed to the throat. :girl_haha:

[DeeJay]

Yeah, Bobby is a great guy.....except for those pesky little murders of two people, he is just swell....GMAB


Exactly...all this is falling on my deaf ears.

[Tracian]

OMG....this is a one time thing....what is wrong with these people?

[sciencegirl]

This is absolutely insane. "Did you and Bobby play X-Box?" "Did you beat him?"

Who in the heck cares and how is that mitigating evidence.

[chambord]

I'm not impressed hearing what a good dad Bobby was. He wasn't a good dad to the baby he murdered, or to the son he left along with his mother's dead body.

Yet, he played Xbox on his lunch hour. That means a lot, don'cha think?:rolleye0001:

[Tracian]

This is absolutely insane. "Did you and Bobby play X-Box?" "Did you beat him?"

Who in the heck cares and how is that mitigating evidence.



They are attempting to make him look more human, it's not working.

[chambord]

This is absolutely insane. "Did you and Bobby play X-Box?" "Did you beat him?"

Who in the heck cares and how is that mitigating evidence.

LOL...we are thinking alike. Yes spare his life so he can play his little xbox.:0009:

[chambord]

Anyone know if Jamie thinks Cutts is innocent?:67302:

LOL. Not sure, but she does think this hearing is very *emotional*.

[sciencegirl]

LOL. Not sure, but she does think this hearing is very *emotional*.

OMG!!! She said that? I've got TTV on mute and watching the sentencing on line.

[Tracian]

Did you see Bobby with his children? they asked.

Which ones? the one he left alone for 26 hours or the one he murdered?


Making me sick.

[chambord]

Anyone know if the sentence will be announced today?

[sciencegirl]

Did you see Bobby with his children? they asked.

Which ones? the one he left alone for 26 hours or the one he murdered?


Making me sick.

Yup; and this guy says "Oh; Bobby loved kids". Yeah right!! He loved one of them to death.

[sciencegirl]

Anyone know if the sentence will be announced today?

Good question. I have no idea.

[chambord]

OMG!!! She said that? I've got TTV on mute and watching the sentencing on line.

Classic Jamie, *she doesn't think this is a death case*!!!

[Tracian]

Yup; and this guy says "Oh; Bobby loved kids". Yeah right!! He loved one of them to death.



He's a great dad? What kind of great dad leaves his son alone for 26 hours with an open bottle of bleach within reach? Not to mention the murder of his own daughter.

[KittyMom]

Morning ya'll!

Are we hearing what a great guy Booby Cutts is?

[sciencegirl]

Morning ya'll!

Are we hearing what a great guy Booby Cutts is?

He's a marvelous, loving human being!!!:67302:

[KittyMom]

My FOX link is doing funky stuff...is there a local link?

[DeeJay]

The pros are not crossing these witnesses, only asked a few questions here and there. Very odd. :0doh:

[DeeJay]

My FOX link is doing funky stuff...is there a local link?

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

[sciencegirl]

This testimony about this witness's personal tragedy has no bearing on this case, IMO.

[KittyMom]

He's a marvelous, loving human being!!!:67302:

Yeah! That's why he murdered his lover and his baby daughter. This folks are nuts. :rolleye0001:

[KittyMom]

http://www.newsnet5.com/video/15210390/index.html

Thanks! :howdy:

[DeeJay]

This testimony about this witness's personal tragedy has no bearing on this case, IMO.


ITA. But have to remember, the def has very little to work with even in this penalty phase.

[chambord]

This testimony about this witness's personal tragedy has no bearing on this case, IMO.

She was hit by a drunk driver and dumped in a field to die. Shades of Bobby Cutts. Wonder if the jury will relate.

[Try2Win]

He's a great dad? What kind of great dad leaves his son alone for 26 hours with an open bottle of bleach within reach? Not to mention the murder of his own daughter.

it his horrible to imagine that blake could of been found dead also if he had put the wrong thing into his mouth during that 26 hours of being unattended.

[sciencegirl]

ITA. But have to remember, the def has very little to work with even in this penalty phase.

I think the whole impact is to bring out how she forgave this almost DUI killer.

[Tracian]

This witness is completely irrelevant to this case. Bobby didn't make a 'mistake' that theory goes out the window the minute this 'cop' tried to cover this up, and then has the gall to go on interviews claiming innocents, and online looking for dates.

[chambord]

He's a great dad? What kind of great dad leaves his son alone for 26 hours with an open bottle of bleach within reach? Not to mention the murder of his own daughter.

Exactly, and now the defense atty. is asking this witness about Bobby loving his children!!

Big mistake to keep asking about his children. A reminder to what Cutts did to Blake and his unborn child.

[sciencegirl]

She was hit by a drunk driver and dumped in a field to die. Shades of Bobby Cutts. Wonder if the jury will relate.

Good point. Didn't think of it that way. She just refreshed the jurors memories on this young pregnant mother and where she was dumped.

[DeeJay]

it his horrible to imagine that blake could of been found dead also if he had put the wrong thing into his mouth during that 26 hours of being unattended.

That opened bottle of bleach sticks in my mind.

[Tracian]

I think the whole impact is to bring out how she forgave this almost DUI killer.



I respect that, he is alive to forgive unlike Jesse and Cloey.

When she used the term 'mistake' that is where she lost me.

[KittyMom]

I think the whole impact is to bring out how she forgave this almost DUI killer.


Let's hope the jury remembers that this chick is still around to forgive...Jessie doesn't have that luxury.

[Tracian]

That opened bottle of bleach sticks in my mind.


mine too. How can anyone say he is a 'great dad'?

[sciencegirl]

Let's hope the jury remembers that this chick is still around to forgive...Jessie doesn't have that luxury.

ITA. But, I was also thinking that the impact was for the jury to forgive.

[KittyMom]

ITA. But, I was also thinking that the impact was for the jury to forgive.

I hope Jessie's mom gets up there and they relate to her more than Booby.

[Tracian]

I hope Jessie's mom gets up there and they relate to her more than Booby.



Right, they are trying to avoid the fact that he was convicted of murder.

[sciencegirl]

Looks like some of Bobby's friends didn't get a ticket or hauled off to jail when they should have.

[sciencegirl]

I hope Jessie's mom gets up there and they relate to her more than Booby.

The prosecution rested without witnesses. There will be no one testifying today on behalf of Jessie.

[Tracian]

Looks like some of Bobby's friends didn't get a ticket or hauled off to jail when they should have.


Yeah, I caught that.

[DeeJay]

I hope Jessie's mom gets up there and they relate to her more than Booby.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?cat=10


'We can expect up to 16 witnesses to testify this week as defense attorneys try
to convince jurors not to sentence their client to death.

Only one witness, psychologist John Matthew Fabian, can be photographed.

The prosecution has no witnesses; only the defense.
Among those witnesses includes Cutts’ mother, Renee Jones,
and father, Bobby L. Cutts, Sr.

[Tracian]

The prosecution rested without witnesses. There will be no one testifying today on behalf of Jessie.



Not even victim impact statements? Or did I miss those?

[sciencegirl]

Not even victim impact statements? Or did I miss those?

Nope!!! Nothing at all. Really strange, huh?

[KittyMom]

So, what gives? Does the pros think his job is done?

[Tracian]

Nope!!! Nothing at all. Really strange, huh?



It seems unfair. Jesse can't speak for herself, and no one is going to speak for her.

[sciencegirl]

So, what gives? Does the pros think his job is done?

The prosecutor may as well have just asked for LWOP; instead of the Death Penalty. If you can't put up family members of the victim to testify about her loss and who she was; the jury will never know her.

All they are finding out is who Bobby Cutts was before he became a murderer.

[KittyMom]

This is yet another example of how screwed up our justice system has become...the trial becomes all about the perp instead of all about the victim. Just sicking.

[chambord]

Jamie bringing out the *race issue*. All white jury and a black defendent. No suprise coming from her.

[DeeJay]

This is yet another example of how screwed up our justice system has become...the trial becomes all about the perp instead of all about the victim. Just sicking.

Well that certainly is true in THIS Ohio courtroom.

Apparently, it is the choices of Jessie's family. They had the choice to speak & have chosen not to.

[sciencegirl]

Jamie bringing out the *race issue*. All white jury and a black defendent. No suprise coming from her.

Yeah; I heard that. She sure doesn't miss a chance; does she?:puke:

[KittyMom]

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/15938147.html

Prosecutors, limited by law in presenting victim impact-type testimony, did not call any witnesses. An assistant prosecutor urged jurors to recommend death in opening statements.

[sciencegirl]

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/15938147.html

I'm disappointed that Ohio is so far behind the times. Someone needs to be fighting for some laws to be changed. This is outrageous.

[KittyMom]

Well that certainly is true in THIS Ohio courtroom.

Apparently, it is the choices of Jessie's family. They had the choice to speak & have chosen not to.


Mark Lunsford had to have his VIS approved by the pros so that it didn't raise any issues for appeal in John Couey's sentencing. It just seems so wrong that these grieving families NEVER get the chance to just let loose on this pieces of carp.

[DeeJay]

Mark Lunsford had to have his VIS approved by the pros so that it didn't raise any issues for appeal in John Couey's sentencing. It just seems so wrong that these grieving families NEVER get the chance to just let loose on this pieces of carp.


At least he got to have his say. I think his mother did also. As well as others.

[sciencegirl]

OMG!!! This TH on Jamie's show just said that Cutts is expected to take the stand. More fake tears to come.

[DeeJay]

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/15938147.html

"Limited," but not forbidden.

[DeeJay]

OMG!!! This TH on Jamie's show just said that Cutts is expected to take the stand. More fake tears to come.


No surprise to me. He loves being in the spotlight now. What's he got to lose?

[Try2Win]

Doesn't the state still get the last word at the end of all this today?

Maybe then they will just play a fav song of Jessie and put up posters of her and Blake?

JMO

[DeeJay]

Doesn't the state still get the last word at the end of all this today?

Maybe then they will just play a fav song of Jessie and put up posters of her and Blake?

JMO


The norm is the state does get the last word, but in THIS courtroom, don't count on it.

This penalty phase is the most sanitized I've ever seen.

The pros opening today was very short and not a lot of
substance.

[RayStar]

Wow Jami. I really think Charles Manson is one of the worst. Cutts deserves the DP!

Hello every one.

[chambord]

The norm is the state does get the last word, but in THIS courtroom, don't count on it.

This penalty phase is the most sanitized I've ever seen.

The pros opening today was very short and not a lot of
substance.

Don't take it to the bank, but didn't Jamie say this is to continue till tomorrow, or was it Beth that said it?

[DeeJay]

Don't take it to the bank, but didn't Jamie say this is to continue till tomorrow, or was it Beth that said it?

My cable is just showing Bloom & Politan.

I did hear this is suppose to last 2 days. So thru tomorrow.

[sciencegirl]

My cable is just showing Bloom & Politan.

I did hear this is suppose to last 2 days. So thru tomorrow.

So you're just now seeing the beginning of this?? Is that right?

[DeeJay]

So you're just now seeing the beginning of this?? Is that right?

No, been watching on 'live' streaming since it started this
morning.

[sciencegirl]

Not a word about Jessie and their little boy. Makes me sick.

[chambord]

This may seem nuts to you all, but if I was to face the rest of my entire life locked up in prison, especially being an ex-cop, which is a target in of itself, I would prefer death. Does anyone else think like that, or is it just me?

[lost indie]

This may seem nuts to you all, but if I was to face the rest of my entire life locked up in prison, especially being an ex-cop, which is a target in of itself, I would prefer death. Does anyone else think like that, or is it just me?


Me too cham....no quality of life...

[DeeJay]

This may seem nuts to you all, but if I was to face the rest of my entire life locked up in prison, especially being an ex-cop, which is a target in of itself, I would prefer death. Does anyone else think like that, or is it just me?

Agree. Protective custody means everything. General population is not a good idea.

Cutts was a cop and he also killed a child along with the
mother. Double strikes against him in prison.

[KittyMom]

At least he got to have his say. I think his mother did also. As well as others.

Well, actually, he was allowed to say only what the pros approved. Mark didn't get to say what he really wanted to say. And yes, his mother, a family friend, and one of Jessie's teachers were able to make statements.

[KittyMom]

I wouldn't want to be Cutts in prison.

[KittyMom]

I think Bobby is stuck in his little fantasy world where this really isn't happening.

[DeeJay]

Well, actually, he was allowed to say only what the pros approved. Mark didn't get to say what he really wanted to say. And yes, his mother, a family friend, and one of Jessie's teachers were able to make statements.

But Jessie's family isn't saying a word. zip, nada.

The pros announced they "rested." up front, right after
OS, which was very short and not much substance.

[KittyMom]

But Jessie's family isn't saying a word. zip, nada.

The pros announced they "rested." up front, right after
OS, which was very short and not much substance.


IDK...I just don't get it.:z0tdntknw:

[chambord]

Me too cham....no quality of life...

I just don't get it. Why prolong the agony. How is living for the rest of your life locked up preferable to the inevitable? I would go insane under those conditions. The claustophia alone would kill me. I can never come to terms that these murderers would prefer prison rather than face their consequences.

[DeeJay]

What's going on now? Did they end for the day?:shock:

[sciencegirl]

This may seem nuts to you all, but if I was to face the rest of my entire life locked up in prison, especially being an ex-cop, which is a target in of itself, I would prefer death. Does anyone else think like that, or is it just me?

The TH's were talking about this on Jamie's show I think. It's not as much as him being a cop in jail as it is him being a baby killer.

[Adalena935]

Nope!!! Nothing at all. Really strange, huh?

It seems unusual to me although all the jurors have to do is look what he did. His crime was so hideous and reeks of premeditation. Total disregard for both those little baby's; Blake and unborn Chloe. Then hiding her and letting her family and loved ones grieve so for so long. The man is a monster.

I hope the jury gives him life without parole.

[sciencegirl]

What's going on now? Did they end for the day?:shock:

:shock: Are you serious? I thought they were on break. You may be right. They said it would take two days. These are short witnesses for the most part; so maybe they are done for the day.

[Adalena935]

I just don't get it. Why prolong the agony. How is living for the rest of your life locked up preferable to the inevitable? I would go insane under those conditions. The claustophia alone would kill me. I can never come to terms that these murderers would prefer prison rather than face their consequences.

I agree with you on that. It's amazing isn't it.

[Adalena935]

The TH's were talking about this on Jamie's show I think. It's not as much as him being a cop in jail as it is him being a baby killer.


That's an awful cute dog. I just love that one little eye peeking out. I'll be honest; she's DARLING!

[DeeJay]

:shock: Are you serious? I thought they were on break. You may be right. They said it would take two days. These are short witnesses for the most part; so maybe they are done for the day.

Well I dunno.....that's why I was asking. I saw Mr. Barr take his overcoat and leave the courtroom but the camera's still on.

What a crazy :francis: run courtroom this is.

I can hardly wait to get back to Jensen.

[sciencegirl]

That's an awful cute dog. I just love that one little eye peeking out. I'll be honest; she's DARLING!

Thanks. She's my one TRUE Love :yes2:

[sciencegirl]

Well I dunno.....that's why I was asking. I saw Mr. Barr take his overcoat and leave the courtroom but the camera's still on.

What a crazy :francis: run courtroom this is.

I can hardly wait to get back to Jensen.

Jack and Banfield are on now. They are not done. The next witness is due on the stand soon.:0doh:

[sciencegirl]

Dang!!! He must have just got out of school with all of those Masters' Degrees. He's awful young.

[DeeJay]

Jack and Banfield are on now. They are not done. The next witness is due on the stand soon.:0doh:


TY. I don't get Jack & Ashleigh for a few more hours. I've just been watching 'live' streaming since court started this morning.

[sciencegirl]

I don't know how this psychologist can say there is any kind of mental problem of any sort; after all; Bobby Cutts was just one of the good ole' boys; loving son, loving father, loving friend, loving brother, loving student, loving husband. No one so far has even leaned toward a mental illness; depression; or anything psychological with him. And, now he has a mental disorder?????

[kindee]

Jack and Banfield are on now. They are not done. The next witness is due on the stand soon.:0doh:




That was one long introduction! :grin:

[kindee]

I don't know how this psychologist can say there is any kind of mental problem of any sort; after all; Bobby Cutts was just one of the good ole' boys; loving son, loving father, loving friend, loving brother, loving student, loving husband. No one so far has even leaned toward a mental illness; depression; or anything psychological with him. And, now he has a mental disorder?????




I hate this kind of a Monday Morning quarterbacking. Why didn't the PD pick up on his mental disorders a long time ago?

[kindee]

Anyone know if Jamie thinks Cutts is innocent?:67302:




I'm sure if nothing else she believes HIS version of The Accidental Elbow.:rolleye0001:


Wow, this guy wasn't a bought witness at all d'ya think?

[DeeJay]

This court has WACKY sidebars. :thud2:

Lengthy ones, too. :rolleye0001:

[DeeJay]

I'm sure if nothing else she believes HIS version of The Accidental Elbow.:rolleye0001:


Wow, this guy wasn't a bought witness at all d'ya think?

:67302: I said same about Jami earlier. :girl_haha:

[sciencegirl]

I'm sure if nothing else she believes HIS version of The Accidental Elbow.:rolleye0001:


Wow, this guy wasn't a bought witness at all d'ya think?

Hey Kindee -

This is just the most unbelievable sentencing hearing I have ever seen in my life. The victim's family couldn't even speak in court today.

[sciencegirl]

I'm sure if nothing else she believes HIS version of The Accidental Elbow.:rolleye0001:


Wow, this guy wasn't a bought witness at all d'ya think?

Jack Ford's TH said this would be a great witness to bring some "impartiality" for the jurors to consider. I laughed out loud!!!

[kindee]

How did this abused, damaged, mentally defected guy slip through all those psychological profiles and tests cops are given?

[sciencegirl]

Oh; I see. This is all dad's fault now!!! Oh brother!!!

[kindee]

Hey Kindee -

This is just the most unbelievable sentencing hearing I have ever seen in my life. The victim's family couldn't even speak in court today.





I just do NOT understand that at all. There must be a strategy involved but dang if I can figure it out. SOMEbody on that jury bought his story. This could be a dangerous tactic.

[sciencegirl]

How did this abused, damaged, mentally defected guy slip through all those psychological profiles and tests cops are given?

I suspect he became mentally ill after he murdered two people.:rolleye0001:

[kindee]

Jack Ford's TH said this would be a great witness to bring some "impartiality" for the jurors to consider. I laughed out loud!!!




I HEARD that. holy cow. But really, I agreed with whoever said it's the JURY's job to declare mitigation and to what extent. I'd be kind of :eyebrow1qb: if I were on that jury and this guy was trying to sell me this bought testimony.

[sciencegirl]

I just do NOT understand that at all. There must be a strategy involved but dang if I can figure it out. SOMEbody on that jury bought his story. This could be a dangerous tactic.

It's the law in Ohio. The victim's family are "limited" in what they can say. And Beth keeps saying that the prosecution already gave the aggravating circumstances during trial. Yup; go figure. Never seen anything like this.

[kindee]

I suspect he became mentally ill after he murdered two people.:rolleye0001:




aYEP. Mentally ill AND found Jesus, no doubt. :rolleye0001::INhouseReading04:

Can I get a witness?

[sciencegirl]

aYEP. Mentally ill AND found Jesus, no doubt. :rolleye0001::INhouseReading04:

Can I get a witness?

:67302: Oh; forgot about Jesus. Of course he found Jesus.

[sciencegirl]

No mental disorder? So what's the point of this witness?

[KittyMom]

Tendency to act out aggressively and violently in stressful situations????? And he's a cop????

[kindee]

Tendency to act out aggressively and violently in stressful situations????? And he's a cop????




Maybe they pinned a medal on him and said "you're our boy"? sheesh. :0doh:

[sciencegirl]

Tendency to act out aggressively and violently in stressful situations????? And he's a cop????

Blows your ever-lovin mind; doesn't it?

[sciencegirl]

Whut??? He said that he tends to act out agressively and violently in stressful situations; but the good doc says; I don't think he would do that again.

OMG!!!! pathetic

[DeeJay]

How did this abused, damaged, mentally defected guy slip through all those psychological profiles and tests cops are given?

If the pros aren't sleeping....they'll be on top of that
on cross.

[KittyMom]

Whut??? He said that he tends to act out agressively and violently in stressful situations; but the good doc says; I don't think he would do that again.

OMG!!!! pathetic

I think we could find this doc's ad in the yellow pages....

1-800-BUY-ADOC

[kindee]

Whut??? He said that he tends to act out agressively and violently in stressful situations; but the good doc says; I don't think he would do that again.

OMG!!!! pathetic




Well nuttin' much more stressful for a COP than LWOPP behind bars.

Expect much aggression and violence from this one in the future.

This is just laughable. This is making it easier for the jury to go DP if you ask me. Get this guy off the planet so he doesn't erupt from stress again!

[kindee]

If the pros aren't sleeping....they'll be on top of that
on cross.





So will Jessie's family and atty. in their civil suit against the PD.

[sciencegirl]

I still want to know what the "incident" was that almost kept him from going to college; that his teacher testified to.

[kindee]

I still want to know what the "incident" was that almost kept him from going to college; that his teacher testified to.




How DO these people we are watching today get to be COPS? It really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in those vowing to Serve And Protect.

[sciencegirl]

Off to the eye doctor. Be back later.

[kindee]

"see" you later SG!

Am I alone here now?

[KittyMom]

"see" you later SG!

Am I alone here now?

I'm here, watching in disgust.

[KittyMom]

The doc's voice is just like Jeff Daniels'.

[Adalena935]

It's the law in Ohio. The victim's family are "limited" in what they can say. And Beth keeps saying that the prosecution already gave the aggravating circumstances during trial. Yup; go figure. Never seen anything like this.

I wanted to tell you Jeff Goldblatt was telling E.D. Hill that in Illinois it's against the law for the prosecution to bring in victim impact statements.

I didn't know that. I think that's so weird. Can't help but wonder what prompted that law.

[kindee]

I'm here, watching in disgust.



Me too but the pros. got 'em good.

[KittyMom]

long sidebar...

[DeeJay]

"see" you later SG!

Am I alone here now?


I'm here, just had a tickle in my throat and having a
coughing and sneezing fit!! :francis:

Trying to catch my breath! :0doh:

[KittyMom]

I wanted to tell you Jeff Goldblatt was telling E.D. Hill that in Illinois it's against the law for the prosecution to bring in victim impact statements.

I didn't know that. I think that's so weird. Can't help but wonder what prompted that law.

That is so freakin' wrong!!! :mad:

[DeeJay]

long sidebar...

LONG AND WACKY! Why does the judge have to leave the bench? He can turn the mics on and off.

[kindee]

That is so freakin' wrong!!! :mad:





That HAS to change.

I just finished the chapter in my homicide book about victims' rights (as if a thing exists...)---and how traumatized the survivors are by the revictimization in the criminal justice system.

This needs to be addressed, and fixed. And now. At least most of us have a clue how one sided it all is; can you imagine if you had to learn that the hardest way possible? :0001:

[Try2Win]

LONG AND WACKY! Why does the judge have to leave the bench? He can turn the mics on and off.

i bet the judge likes getting up for a bit anyways. jmo

[Audie]

Obi here. Better late than never, I think.

Is this guy still on? Sheesh!

[KittyMom]

Pros is ripping those stats up.

[Try2Win]

This is so pathetic. I understand that Bobby has the right to all of this, but this seems to be so dragged on. jmo

[kindee]

Obi here. Better late than never, I think.

Is this guy still on? Sheesh!




obi you are Audie? No wonder I couldn't find you! :girl_haha:

[Audie]

obi you are Audie? No wonder I couldn't find you! :girl_haha:Sorry, kindee. I decided on a new nic. Audie for Audie Murphy, my all time hero. Still obi at heart though, lol.

So is this the penalty phase or sentencing phase? The CTV people have me all confused.

[kindee]

Sorry, kindee. I decided on a new nic. Audie for Audie Murphy, my all time hero. Still obi at heart though, lol.

So is this the penalty phase or sentencing phase? The CTV people have me all confused.




This is the penalty phase.

Will the jury (the same one that decided the verdict) give him the DP or not? is the question.

[KittyMom]

This doc is such a weinner.

[Audie]

This is the penalty phase.

Will the jury (the same one that decided the verdict) give him the DP or not? is the question.I think they will, but I didn't watch the trial and not sure what the jury makeup is. Is this trial in Canton or did they move it?

[KittyMom]

Here come the violins....

[Audie]

BC giving a statement now. Will the pros get to ask him any questions? Probably not.

[KittyMom]

Wow...lots of sniffles...no tears.

[kindee]

I think they will, but I didn't watch the trial and not sure what the jury makeup is. Is this trial in Canton or did they move it?



Not sure of it either, Obi, but someone on the jury believed his story on the stand so I am not expecting the DP. You never know though!

[KittyMom]

He keeps saying....the baby....DUH...YOUR baby has a name.

[Audie]

Both mothers are crying.

[KittyMom]

No apology to Jessie? He apologizes to Myeosha and not Jessie????

[Audie]

Not sure of it either, Obi, but someone on the jury believed his story on the stand so I am not expecting the DP. You never know though!It's the judge's final decision though, right?

[kindee]

He keeps saying....the baby....DUH...YOUR baby has a name.




I think at one point in his "confession" he called him "her baby". :mad:

[KittyMom]

I saw folks getting up...guess the janitor needs to come in and scoop up all the bull carp.

[kindee]

It's the judge's final decision though, right?




Well, the jury gets to say today (or whenever they finish), and I guess the judge could change their decision but usually they accept the jury's decision.


He's begging the jury to save his life. I do think someone on there won't go for the DP.

[DeeJay]

I haven't seen or heard anyone mention this but on that day, Cutts was going to leave Blake with Ferrel...When she adimtted she and her girl friend had been doing dope and dirnking all day and night.

The girl friend said they had been "KICKIN' IT." When asked what that meant she said drinking and drugs.

[Audie]

I saw folks getting up...guess the janitor needs to come in and scoop up all the bull carp.:67302:

[DeeJay]

So the def didn't call all seventeen witnesses they had
on their list.

[KittyMom]

So the def didn't call all seventeen witnesses they had
on their list.

Nope...guess they think they've done their best.

[Audie]

How many did they have? Over 10, I think.

[kindee]

Nope...guess they think they've done their best.






I think Bobby begging on the stand worked once,might work again.

good luck jury!

[DeeJay]

How many did they have? Over 10, I think.

Certainly not more than 10. This was suppose to last
thru tomorrow but guess not. Jury will be deliberating.

[DeeJay]

I think Bobby begging on the stand worked once,might work again.

good luck jury!

I'm still :shock: that the jury bought his phonyness,
trying to squeeze out a tear during his testimony.

[Audie]

Mother
Father
Sister
Cousin
Friend
Coworker
Teacher
and the last guy, psychiatrist?

8 I guess.

eta: there was a cop too, I think

[sciencegirl]

I wanted to tell you Jeff Goldblatt was telling E.D. Hill that in Illinois it's against the law for the prosecution to bring in victim impact statements.

I didn't know that. I think that's so weird. Can't help but wonder what prompted that law.

I'm back!!! Illinois victims can bring impact statements in and present them to the judge.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=072501200K6

(b) The crime victim has the right to prepare a victim impact statement and present it to the Office of the State's Attorney at any time during the proceedings. Any written victim impact statement submitted to the Office of the State's Attorney shall be considered by the court during its consideration of aggravation and mitigation in plea proceedings under Supreme Court Rule 402.

[sciencegirl]

I think Bobby begging on the stand worked once,might work again.

good luck jury!

Crapola = I missed Cutts? Say it ain't so. I thought they were going into tomorrow with witnesses.

[Audie]

See y'all tomorrow morning! Gotta finish the yard work before it rains.

[KittyMom]

What the hay...that judge is down there laughing it up with the defense attys????

[DeeJay]

I'm back!!! Illinois victims can bring impact statements in and present them to the judge.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=072501200K6

(b) The crime victim has the right to prepare a victim impact statement and present it to the Office of the State's Attorney at any time during the proceedings. Any written victim impact statement submitted to the Office of the State's Attorney shall be considered by the court during its consideration of aggravation and mitigation in plea proceedings under Supreme Court Rule 402.

The fine folks of Ohio need to get on to the state legislatures and get one of those going for the fine
folks in the State of Ohio.

[DeeJay]

What the hay...that judge is down there laughing it up with the defense attys????


:shock: :francis: Well that's NOT GOOD!! :francis: :faintTHUD:

[kindee]

See y'all tomorrow morning! Gotta finish the yard work before it rains.




Later bud, SO glad you are here now.

[KittyMom]

Note to self...don't ever be a victim in Ohio.

[kellabeck]

I think at one point in his "confession" he called him "her baby". :mad:

Who does that remind you of? Scott?

[Texas53]

When I got home this afternoon, I saw a report of Cutts on the stand again crying his fake tears. Are they going hear victim impact statements (from anyone on Jessie's side)?

[sunstar]

I totally missed the coverage today with work boggling me down. I'll go to the media links and see what's over there now, but as for Cutts he's just trying to save his own life now, imo.

[Sumanadevii]

Cry me a river Cutts....
Save it for someone that cares

[Audie]

:mornincoffee: everyone!

I bet BC Sr was up all night thinking about that suit that his son was wearing yesterday.

[chambord]

Yikes, this defense atty. Raine, has some kind of hairdo going on. lol

[Audie]

So they have opening and closing arguments for the penalty phase also?

[Audie]

Yikes, this defense atty. Raine, has some kind of hairdo going on. lolLOL

[lost indie]

Yikes, this defense atty. Raine, has some kind of hairdo going on. lol

:67302:

I was thinking the exact same thing....

[chambord]

Haha, the expressions on the court stenographer are priceless. I don't think she's buying this defense's story.

[sciencegirl]

Yikes, this defense atty. Raine, has some kind of hairdo going on. lol

Morning all:mornincoffee:

Isn't that hairdo awful. I just want to take scissors and cut those bangs off so bad.

[Audie]

Haha, the expressions on the court stenographer are priceless. I don't think she's buying this defense's story.Now you have me watching her. Uh oh, she scratched her nose. That means what she is typing is a lie.

[KittyMom]

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/15411857/detail.html

Blog: 'Cutts Is Not Saddam Hussein'

[sciencegirl]

What was the actual cause of death for Jessie? Was it the blow to the neck as Bobby said?

[KittyMom]

http://www.wkyc.com/news/regional/akron_article.aspx?storyid=83980

8:53 a.m. Mack now talking about Blake and the needs he'll have growing up for a father. "This prosecution wants you to kill Blake's father," Mack said. He's urging the jurors not to take away the boy's father considering his mother is already dead.


:shock:

[sciencegirl]

Beth K. said this morning that four of the jurors were crying yesterday during Cutt's testimony and of the four jurors; some were men. :shock:

I'm doubtful he will get death based on this.

[KittyMom]

Beth K. said this morning that four of the jurors were crying yesterday during Cutt's testimony and of the four jurors; some were men. :shock:

I'm doubtful he will get death based on this.

What is wrong with people?????? They cry for the murderer but not the murdered????:duh:

[Audie]

What was the actual cause of death for Jessie? Was it the blow to the neck as Bobby said?Last I heard was "undetermined".

eta: due to 9 days of decomposition in the heat.

[DeeJay]

What was the actual cause of death for Jessie? Was it the blow to the neck as Bobby said?

They couldn't tell, b/c Jessie was a skeleton. She looked like a body that had been buried for a thousand years.

I saw the photos taken at autopsy.

[KittyMom]

They couldn't tell, b/c Jessie was a skeleton. She looked like a body that had been buried for a thousand years.

I saw the photos taken at autopsy.

:shock: Those were posted???

[DeeJay]

:shock: Those were posted???

I saw them in court on 'live' stream when the ME testified.

[Audie]

They couldn't tell, b/c Jessie was a skeleton. She looked like a body that had been buried for a thousand years.

I saw the photos taken at autopsy.Autopsy photos were released to the public?

eta: Oh okay.

[DeeJay]

Beth K. said this morning that four of the jurors were crying yesterday during Cutt's testimony and of the four jurors; some were men. :shock:

I'm doubtful he will get death based on this.

Dang! WTH is up with that!? :duh: