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KittyMom
02-27-2008, 11:21 AM
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
Right now defense is crossing LE who examined bullet casings and gun.
kindee
02-27-2008, 11:37 AM
here!!! whooooo hoooooo
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 11:37 AM
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
Right now defense is crossing LE who examined bullet casings and gun.
Now that Jensen sentencing is over, back to this one!! Thanks for thread and links.
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 11:39 AM
here!!! whooooo hoooooo
Are you in another place too?
lost indie
02-27-2008, 11:42 AM
Are you in another place too?
Kindee is kinda like the holy spirit...
no one really knows...
:71526:
shortcake
02-27-2008, 11:46 AM
So they finished cross of MM last night?
kindee
02-27-2008, 11:47 AM
Are you in another place too?
LOL Indie!
Yes, I was "at" Jensen. But that one had a satisfying ending.
lost indie
02-27-2008, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=kindee;139172]LOL Indie!
Yes, I was "at" Jensen. But that one had a satisfying ending.[/QUOTE
I honestly think David will make it out of this alright....
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 11:49 AM
Looks like we Jensen sentencing watchers missed the end of MMoore's testimony.
shortcake
02-27-2008, 11:50 AM
anyone not get enough whine from Albee, he's on with Jami Floyd. 2 such wonderful people at one time, how blessed can one be...not!
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 11:51 AM
So they finished cross of MM last night?
She was supposed to be back on the stand at 8:30 this morning. Was she not?
Baranis
02-27-2008, 11:51 AM
1.I missed the re-direct of MM.
2. Witness Hammond was on the stand as is ballistic expert. He stated that shells found at seen were shot from a Glock.
3. Fred Brown is on the stand has worked for Ford dealerships in the fleet dept. for 14yrs.
He states that a truck viewed by an ATM vid matches the Nelson truck. Confirmed itwas 2001 F250SD XLT 4X4 gas engine.
shortcake
02-27-2008, 11:52 AM
ok, probably, all these different time zones and different court start times are more than I can keep up with. didn't think to check this feed sooner, since I had the Jensen one up.
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 11:53 AM
LOL Indie!
Yes, I was "at" Jensen. But that one had a satisfying ending.
lol...actually I meant here...
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
bambam
02-27-2008, 11:57 AM
i made it!!!! still waiting for my satellite dude!! dang it!!
kindee
02-27-2008, 12:01 PM
[QUOTE=kindee;139172]LOL Indie!
Yes, I was "at" Jensen. But that one had a satisfying ending.[/QUOTE
I honestly think David will make it out of this alright....
How?
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 12:04 PM
lol...actually I meant here...
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
That cat in your avatar is toally cracking me up. :67302:
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 12:19 PM
I have some business to handle so will be AFK for an hour or two. :(
bambam
02-27-2008, 12:20 PM
i will be back in a bit too! later!
Baranis
02-27-2008, 12:20 PM
4th witness was Jonathan Trahan, works for the Evens PD drug task force. Was present with KN at the task force office when the dispatch was aired about a shooting at the credit union. After SN name was aired, KN and KH left in KN's duty Jeep. Trahan stayed at the office.
It was Trahan that later searched KN's duty jeep and found a Glock 22 and rifle.
Witness dismissed and now on morning break.
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 12:21 PM
I missed redirect of MM this morning, too. Hope for re-run like yesterday.
Did anyone here catch it and was there anything outstanding in the testimony? TIA
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 12:26 PM
I missed redirect of MM this morning, too. Hope for re-run like yesterday.
Did anyone here catch it and was there anything outstanding in the testimony? TIA
I missed it too awakening. I am hoping Fox will replay it, if there was anything to see.
kindee
02-27-2008, 12:47 PM
I missed redirect of MM this morning, too. Hope for re-run like yesterday.
Did anyone here catch it and was there anything outstanding in the testimony? TIA
I missed it as well; do you think you all can get your friend Marc to replay it over lunch? :girl_haha:
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 12:56 PM
I missed it as well; do you think you all can get your friend Marc to replay it over lunch? :girl_haha:
They don't have MM back at the station yet, but they will be replaying the testimony later
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Link to story and videos of trial:
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=2310C870AE34F10F846B42DCA1398AA4 ?contentId=5886753&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 01:19 PM
lunch break...went thru all the morning witnesses...faster than expected. Will have 9/10 more.
kindee
02-27-2008, 01:20 PM
lunch break...went thru all the morning witnesses...faster than expected. Will have 9/10 more.
They move fast there in Colorado.
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 01:22 PM
lunch break...went thru all the morning witnesses...faster than expected. Will have 9/10 more.
The prosecutor probably thought the defense would have some questions to ask of the witnesses. They didn't do much cross today, at least that I was able to see.
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 01:23 PM
They move fast there in Colorado.
Have to move fast in Colorado to stay warm. :girl_haha:
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 01:24 PM
MM's testimony will be replayed soon.
Baranis
02-27-2008, 01:28 PM
5. Steve Nelson[no relation to KN] works for Greeley PD for 30 yrs. Received weapons retrieved from KN duty jeep, a Glock handgun with holster and a AR-15 rifle in gun case.
Steve Nelson then secured both weapons in the safe at the task force.
6. Mathew Walsh, Greeley investigator 10 yrs. received Glock gun from Steve Nelson and entered gun into police evidence.
7. Ms Martinez, I think, could not hear her name clearly worked with SN as a dispatcher.
Both had discussions about the affair between IG and SN. At one point, SN stated that she would go to gun range and pretend that the target she was shooting was HG.
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 01:30 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20080226/NEWS01/89832799
And police arrested Shawna Nelson wearing his underwear, something he was unaware of until today.
Ken is just lucky that he's not on trial.
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 01:32 PM
I'm beginning to think that Shawna planned to set Ken up all along. The coffee, his truck, the underwear...Ken is VERY lucky.
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 01:40 PM
Ashleigh just said there is a verdict in another trial. Is that Cutts?
sciencegirl
02-27-2008, 01:41 PM
Hey Guys!!!!!!!!!! Verdict Is In Cutts Trial
bambam
02-27-2008, 03:03 PM
okie dokie. i guess no one is posting here today??? i'm still waiting on the satellite dude. **sigh**
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 03:12 PM
okie dokie. i guess no one is posting here today??? i'm still waiting on the satellite dude. **sigh**
I'm here, but like you said nobody else is posting, so I wait and watch. :girl_haha:
bambam
02-27-2008, 03:25 PM
hey katy, i'm just having another boring day.... been waiting for the satellite ppl to show up all day long...... i'm dying here without my tv!! lol
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 03:27 PM
hey katy, i'm just having another boring day.... been waiting for the satellite ppl to show up all day long...... i'm dying here without my tv!! lol
Hiya bam :0012:
Such a long time without television. That's a major BUMMER! So the satellite installers are like the cable installers...on their own time...when they get to it.
kindee
02-27-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm beginning to think that Shawna planned to set Ken up all along. The coffee, his truck, the underwear...Ken is VERY lucky.
his GUN and bullet casings, and his shoes!
bambam
02-27-2008, 03:34 PM
Hiya bam :0012:
Such a long time without television. That's a major BUMMER! So the satellite installers are like the cable installers...on their own time...when they get to it.
well, yesterday they told me on the phone that it would be between 8-12 today... then i looked up my acct online, and it said between 12-5pm!! aarrghhh!!! so here i sit....
StoneFox
02-27-2008, 03:54 PM
well, yesterday they told me on the phone that it would be between 8-12 today... then i looked up my acct online, and it said between 12-5pm!! aarrghhh!!! so here i sit....
Good Grief!!! They can't even read their own records!
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Seems like SN was making sure every person who would listen would know about the affair with Ig and her anger toward Heather.
Baranis
02-27-2008, 04:18 PM
Seems like SN was making sure every person who would listen would know about the affair with Ig and her anger toward Heather.
Yes, and most were co workers[dispatchers] She could not stop talking about her affair with IG. A daily soap opera of her own life.
As I am watching SN's reaction to all these witnesses today, she's all smiley and upbeat.
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 04:34 PM
I have missed a lot of the trial testimony today!! Have been reading on the chat and here to see what has been happening.
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 04:34 PM
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5893192&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=5893125&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1017&isP16=true
FORT COLLINS – A bullet and two shell casings found at the Heather Garraus shooting scene could have come from different guns, according to a firearms expert who testified Wednesday at the Shawna Nelson murder trial.
A conclusive answer as to how that could be has not yet been provided to jurors through any witness.
Alan Hammond, a firearms analyst for the Aurora Police Department assigned to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, firmly concluded that the two .40-caliber shell casings recovered in the Greeley credit union parking lot where Garraus was killed had been fired from a Glock 22 handgun owned by Shawna Nelson’s husband Ken. At that time he was a deputy with the Weld County Sheriff’s Department.
Hammond also testified that the bullet recovered at the shooting scene was consistent with having been fired by a Glock – but not necessarily Ken Nelson’s Glock. In fact, Hammond said, it could have been fired by two other brands of handgun.
Asked if he could tie the fatal bullet in evidence to Ken Nelson’s handgun, Hammond said, “No I cannot. It’s the proper caliber, but that’s all I can say.”
Hammond did, however, express zero doubt that the casings had – at some point in time but not necessarily the night of the murder – been fired from Ken Nelson’s Glock 22.
This leaves open a scenario, yet to be nailed down by the prosecution case, that the casings found near Garraus’s body had been fired at a different time and place, then left at the crime scene as a diversion.
No one has alleged that Ken Nelson, now living in Walla Walla, Wash., had a direct role in the execution-style shooting of Heather Garraus, who was gunned down upon leaving work the evening of Jan. 23, 2007. Prosecutors allege she died at the hands of a disguised Shawna Nelson, 36, who faces life in prison with no chance of parole if convicted.
Ken Nelson is, however, charged with tampering with evidence in the case, and is due to stand trial for that later this year. Two teen-agers who witnessed the traffic stop and resulting arrest of Shawna Nelson, 15 minutes after Garraus was killed, have testified that they saw a man who could have been Ken Nelson – he was present that night for his wife’s arrest – lean into the driver’s side of the Ford 250 pick-up and remove something from the vehicle, before leaving to check on the couple’s children, who were alone at home, nearby.
Several witnesses have testified already that when Ken Nelson got the news that his wife as being sought as the Garraus murder suspect, he was on duty at the Weld County Regional Drug Task Force operations center, with several other officers.
Nelson, according to testimony, took his service weapon – the Glock 22, serial number KDN907, and handed it to his supervisor, Sgt. Kell Hulsey. They left the operations center in a task force Jeep Cherokee. And, while driving toward what would be the traffic-stop resulting in Shawna Nelson’s arrest, Ken Nelson took that Glock 22, and gave it to Hulsey, who placed it under the passenger seat as they traveled.
Based on the testimony of Hulsey and Ken Nelson – who took the stand Tuesday – it would appear virtually impossible for his service weapon, the same gun that Hammond tied to the shell casings as the scene, to have been used in the murder.
That leaves a question for the jury of seven men and seven women. Were the casings found in the credit union parking lot actually involved in the shooting, or were they dropped there as a ruse by the shooter? And if that’s what happened, then where are the casings connected to the fatal projectiles that killed Garraus.
Prosecutors believe Shawna Nelson plotted for weeks to murder Heather Garraus, after the end of a nearly three-year affair between Shawna Nelson and Garraus’s husband, then-Greeley police officer Ignacio Garraus.
That affair, which produced an infant boy born to Shawna Nelson by Ignacio Garraus, was discovered by Heather Garraus Dec. 16, 2007, and two days later Ignacio Garraus told Shawna Nelson that he would be staying with his wife, and would be cutting off all contact with her, but for communications between their lawyers.
Michelle Moore, Shawna Nelson’s former best friend who concluded her testimony early Wednesday morning, has told the jury that Shawna Nelson outlined in detail her plan to disguise herself, approach Heather Garraus in the credit union parking lot as she left work, shoot her, leave false evidence, then flee the scene.
And that, prosecutors allege, is exactly what happened.
Shawna Nelson has pleaded not guilty, and claims she was running an errand to the liquor store, from her home, at the time Heather Garraus was killed. She was returning from the liquor store, she said, when Ken Nelson and Hulsey -- on their way from the drug task force office, having heard she was at large as a suspect – intercepted her at 65th Avenue and 18th Street in Greeley. She was taken into custody there by Hulsey and other officers.
The high-profile Nelson trial was moved to Larimer County from Weld County due to concerns that heavy publicity would make picking a fair jury in Greeley impossible. The trial is expected to conclude next week.
kindee
02-27-2008, 05:33 PM
thanks a million awakening2!
bambam
02-27-2008, 05:34 PM
ok LOSING MY MIND HERE!!! the satellite dude came and said that there are too many freakin TREES to get a signal!!!! do you believe this??? i don't!!!!! aaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kindee
02-27-2008, 05:39 PM
ok LOSING MY MIND HERE!!! the satellite dude came and said that there are too many freakin TREES to get a signal!!!! do you believe this??? i don't!!!!! aaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh no nonono. You have to find a place it can connect.
Cornblossom
02-27-2008, 05:58 PM
put it on top of the house
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 05:59 PM
ok LOSING MY MIND HERE!!! the satellite dude came and said that there are too many freakin TREES to get a signal!!!! do you believe this??? i don't!!!!! aaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should have advised you of that prior to setting up the satellite!!
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 06:03 PM
I'm beginning to think that Shawna planned to set Ken up all along. The coffee, his truck, the underwear...Ken is VERY lucky.
I agree 100%... I think it is ridiculous for them to move forward with any charges against Ken.
bambam
02-27-2008, 06:31 PM
They should have advised you of that prior to setting up the satellite!!
oh tell me about it!!! grrr!! now they are RE-scheduling, AGAIN--- he wants to bring his supervisor out to see if it can be done!! aarrghh!! i think he's new! lol i will have them CUT the friggin trees down when they come back!!
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 06:36 PM
oh tell me about it!!! grrr!! now they are RE-scheduling, AGAIN--- he wants to bring his supervisor out to see if it can be done!! aarrghh!! i think he's new! lol i will have them CUT the friggin trees down when they come back!!
I'd have ask the one today where his chainsaw was! :67302:
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 07:12 PM
thanks a million awakening2!
yvw, kindee
Everyone knows they are replaying this afternoon's testimony now?
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 07:23 PM
yvw, kindee
Everyone knows they are replaying this afternoon's testimony now?
I am watching it now. Missed a lot today because I was away from home. And reading what was being discussed in court on that chat screen wasn't very helpful ....
awakening2lite
02-27-2008, 07:30 PM
I put the article on Michelle Moore's testimony in the Trial Links thread
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 07:35 PM
I put the article on Michelle Moore's testimony in the Trial Links thread
:)
I am listening to Jennifer Morrison's testimony now. Very interesting stuff!!
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=80E1269DF98C08068FE1539D6A71A157 ?contentId=5893681&version=11&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
TigressPen
02-27-2008, 07:39 PM
IMO Shawna Nelson is a very disbolical person. She was totally immersed in thoughts of killing Heather.
KittyMom
02-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Nelson's defense presentation will likely be brief, meaning the jury could begin deliberating the her fate as early as Friday.
It's bound to be brief when the defendent is guilty. :0doh:
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 08:14 AM
It's bound to be brief when the defendent is guilty. :0doh:
I think all of the LE in Greeley has testified against her and she didn't really appear to have a life outside that Department. I wonder who the defense will call. I think the Pros has a strong case against her but do feel they could've gone further and include the set-up Ken angle. I just believe fully that is what she was doing. But, they'd already debunked using that angle by charging Ken, I guess. And backtracking may have hurt them.
bambam
02-28-2008, 08:55 AM
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z212/mslmorello/Good-Morning.gif
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 09:02 AM
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z212/mslmorello/Good-Morning.gif
Your graphic looks bright and perky!!! :)
RayStar
02-28-2008, 09:04 AM
Love that Good morning sign BAM.
Audie
02-28-2008, 09:08 AM
:mornincoffee:
What about my graphics? LOL Just kidding.
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 09:15 AM
:mornincoffee:
What about my graphics? LOL Just kidding.
:girl_haha: My graphics consist of available smilies too.
lost indie
02-28-2008, 09:29 AM
Good morning all...
http://bestsmileys.com/friendly/3.gif
group hug....
we've been through a lot this week...
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 09:33 AM
Good morning all...
http://bestsmileys.com/friendly/3.gif
group hug....
we've been through a lot this week...
Yes we have!!
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 09:35 AM
I read this article on Warren Jeffs and it says he was to plead NG to the charges in Arizona yesterday!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/5573309.html
Audie
02-28-2008, 09:50 AM
Thanks for the group hug, indie. A busy and emotional week it was. And it isn't even over.
bambam
02-28-2008, 09:50 AM
Your graphic looks bright and perky!!! :)
:mornincoffee:unlike myself! having another boring carless, tvless day here.....**heavy sigh**
but it'll be ok.... i have a trial with live feed, and my buds here! :love0085:
Audie
02-28-2008, 09:56 AM
When has this trial usually been starting? 9 mtn time?
kindee
02-28-2008, 09:56 AM
well, yesterday they told me on the phone that it would be between 8-12 today... then i looked up my acct online, and it said between 12-5pm!! aarrghhh!!! so here i sit....
Did you get the hookup Bam?
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 10:00 AM
When has this trial usually been starting? 9 mtn time?
8:30 mtn
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:00 AM
Did you get the hookup Bam?
no kindee, the guy said he was going to reschedule and bring his supervisor out to check out the "tree situation"--have you ever heard of such??? :girl_sad:
kindee
02-28-2008, 10:01 AM
When has this trial usually been starting? 9 mtn time?
not sure Obi---the mod over there just said 8:30 a.m. (1/2 an hour from now?)
kindee
02-28-2008, 10:02 AM
no kindee, the guy said he was going to reschedule and bring his supervisor out to check out the "tree situation"--have you ever heard of such??? :girl_sad:
OMG that's right---you had trees in the way. We do too, we just found a place where it could peek through. But DANGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they coming back today?
kindee
02-28-2008, 10:03 AM
I put the article on Michelle Moore's testimony in the Trial Links thread
VERY cool! I'd forgotten we HAD a trial lkinks thread. I'm just loving this place.
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:04 AM
OMG that's right---you had trees in the way. We do too, we just found a place where it could peek through. But DANGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they coming back today?
unfortunately...no!! not today! they are supposed to call me with a reschedule time sometime today. but they prolly won't come til tomorrow.... or worse yet.... monday!! this really sux!!! :girl_sad:
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:11 AM
wow they are in court now! i thought it wouldn't happen til 9:30ct! but the sound is crap!
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 10:14 AM
wow they are in court now! i thought it wouldn't happen til 9:30ct! but the sound is crap!
Lawyers are early. LOL Anticipation maybe. :)
StoneFox
02-28-2008, 10:27 AM
Good Morning All! :0012:
They said this morning on the local news the prosecution should rest today and the defense won't take long. This could go to the jury by late tomorrow or Monday.
I have to be in and out today, so I will probably miss a lot of the testimony. :girl_sad:
kindee
02-28-2008, 10:29 AM
Good Morning All! :0012:
They said this morning on the local news the prosecution should rest today and the defense won't take long. This could go to the jury by late tomorrow or Monday.
I have to be in and out today, so I will probably miss a lot of the testimony. :girl_sad:
WHOA really? Man, that was quick!
kindee
02-28-2008, 10:37 AM
trial is live, is anyone here?
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:37 AM
im here and there and everywhere!
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:39 AM
tbritowhere you at this mornin?
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 10:41 AM
wow they are in court now! i thought it wouldn't happen til 9:30ct! but the sound is crap!
Mine just went up and I had to turn my speaker volume down. LOL
Bernie
02-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Good morning all....:howdy:
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:53 AM
Mine just went up and I had to turn my speaker volume down. LOL
no, earlier i was getting some static, but i have really good sound now... loud and clear!! and everyone else is complaining about low sound! bout time sumthin went my way!! lol:hifive:
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:54 AM
Good morning all....:howdy:
hey bernie! :0012: your badger pic cracks me up every time i see it!! :girl_haha:
dojewo
02-28-2008, 10:54 AM
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/dojewo/hello.gifHello all, do we have a working feed?
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 10:56 AM
no, earlier i was getting some static, but i have really good sound now... loud and clear!! and everyone else is complaining about low sound! bout time sumthin went my way!! lol:hifive:
:basic44:
bambam
02-28-2008, 10:57 AM
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/dojewo/hello.gifHello all, do we have a working feed?
here ya go doj:
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
dojewo
02-28-2008, 10:58 AM
here ya go doj:
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.htmlThanks Bam
bambam
02-28-2008, 11:00 AM
rut rho bad buzz on audio
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:02 AM
:mornincoffee:unlike myself! having another boring carless, tvless day here.....**heavy sigh**
but it'll be ok.... i have a trial with live feed, and my buds here! :love0085:
Who do we need to :71541: to get you your service? We'll bring our Drewpy sticks and straighten this mess out.
awakening2lite
02-28-2008, 11:03 AM
Morning Everyone!!!
dojewo
02-28-2008, 11:03 AM
rut rho bad buzz on audio
Yeah just in time for me to sign in. LOL
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:07 AM
I'm not getting any sound. Anybody else having problems?
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:09 AM
Never mind...I had the sound muted. I need another cup of coffee.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:11 AM
Ouch!!!!! The audio is horrible.
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 11:13 AM
She don't remember folks!! Send her home and let her go back to her loving ways!!! :puke:
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:13 AM
So this call was taped by Ken?
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:17 AM
Oh,my...Ken said he doesn't remember seeing the mask????!!!!!
Bernie
02-28-2008, 11:17 AM
So this call was taped by Ken?
I thought I heard it was a jail house tape.....:howdy:
bambam
02-28-2008, 11:20 AM
Who do we need to :71541: to get you your service? We'll bring our Drewpy sticks and straighten this mess out.
lol kitty!! i sure hope the mess gets straightened out SOON!! if i have to go thru the weekend with NO tv... well let's just say, it ain't gonna be pretty!!!! :lex_10:
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:22 AM
OMGosh!!!!...she accused Ig and Ken of murdering HG. Bet Ken likes that.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:24 AM
I thought I heard it was a jail house tape.....:howdy:
You're correct. I just wonder if Ken was told to ask certain questions.
Bernie
02-28-2008, 11:27 AM
lol kitty!! i sure hope the mess gets straightened out SOON!! if i have to go thru the weekend with NO tv... well let's just say, it ain't gonna be pretty!!!! :lex_10:
Oh no...no tv.....that would kill me if my dish failed......hope its up soon....:howdy:
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 11:27 AM
You're correct. I just wonder if Ken was told to ask certain questions.
I feel for Ken! That poor man was put through a lot because of her.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 11:38 AM
7000+ phonecalls, my gosh! was she ever watching those kids?
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:45 AM
Poor Heather had to feel like she was being stalked.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:46 AM
I got booted off the chat. Anyone else?
Cornblossom
02-28-2008, 11:49 AM
it's auto refreshing every two seconds
bambam
02-28-2008, 11:52 AM
it's auto refreshing every two seconds
yep. i can't take that chit! every time i try to type a post, it gets zapped right in the middle!
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Mine is fine now. I'm not having anymore trouble. Apparently, I got booted off for using the word...suckers.
lost indie
02-28-2008, 12:03 PM
Was Heather doing anyone on the side?
kindee
02-28-2008, 12:10 PM
OMGosh!!!!...she accused Ig and Ken of murdering HG. Bet Ken likes that.
With a wife/girlfriend like this who needs enemies? :shock:
kindee
02-28-2008, 12:13 PM
Was Heather doing anyone on the side?
everyone says no, she was the ONLY one.
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:15 PM
everyone says no, she was the ONLY one.
and SHE gets killed :girl_sad:
lost indie
02-28-2008, 12:15 PM
everyone says no, she was the ONLY one.
So it figures she'd end up the victim...
kindee
02-28-2008, 12:28 PM
and SHE gets killed :girl_sad:
shades of Julie Jensen.
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:30 PM
shades of Julie Jensen.
it's a mucked-up world we live in.....:girl_sad:
lost indie
02-28-2008, 12:32 PM
shades of Julie Jensen.
Have you read the Jensen board lately? They are speculating that Kelly and David have a relationship...
:71526:
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:35 PM
Have you read the Jensen board lately? They are speculating that Kelly and David have a relationship...
:71526:
WHAT?????:shock:
lost indie
02-28-2008, 12:36 PM
WHAT?????:shock:
Mostly I think it was Kellabeck...
:022:
I tip-toed out of there...
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:38 PM
Mostly I think it was Kellabeck...
:022:
I tip-toed out of there...
what??? kella is saying that????
lost indie
02-28-2008, 12:39 PM
what??? kella is saying that????
It was on the Jensen boards early this morning or late last night....
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:40 PM
It was on the Jensen boards early this morning or late last night....
omg, i must go check it out..... maybe i need to set them straight!!!!
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 12:41 PM
What place gives you cooties?
bambam
02-28-2008, 12:42 PM
What place gives you cooties?
she was referring to the OTHER board kitty
kindee
02-28-2008, 01:00 PM
Have you read the Jensen board lately? They are speculating that Kelly and David have a relationship...
:71526:
*sigh*:0001:
kindee
02-28-2008, 01:00 PM
Mostly I think it was Kellabeck...
:022:
I tip-toed out of there...
are you kidding me?????????????????????????????
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 01:22 PM
I've had company so I could only hear and couldn't see the boards. What happen on it?
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 01:45 PM
The chat on myfox is starting to get troublesome. I hate it when folks get their panties in a wad and complain like 3 yr olds.
Bernie
02-28-2008, 01:48 PM
Have you read the Jensen board lately? They are speculating that Kelly and David have a relationship...
:71526:
Now our posters are going bonkers......:67302:
Xmygrits
02-28-2008, 01:50 PM
The chat on myfox is starting to get troublesome. I hate it when folks get their panties in a wad and complain like 3 yr olds.
I agree. I am having a hard time keeping up. My puter keeps refreshing every 5 seconds and the conversation is all over the place
Xmygrits
02-28-2008, 01:51 PM
I've had company so I could only hear and couldn't see the boards. What happen on it?
Sorry about offending you on the Lee comment. I personally do not have a high opinion of him any longer. He sold his soul.
Cornblossom
02-28-2008, 02:06 PM
It was on the Jensen boards early this morning or late last night....that's hitting a new low isn't it?:mornincoffee:
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 02:11 PM
Sorry about offending you on the Lee comment. I personally do not have a high opinion of him any longer. He sold his soul.
LOL I didn't mean anything negative. It's just MarcS was getting frustrated with a lot of stuff and constantly saying don't do this or that. It was of a little birdie in ear whisper to ya.
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 02:12 PM
Ohh we are getting the replay of Shawna's selffishness phone call!! Trying to make Ken feel guilty for her being there.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 02:13 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20080228/NEWS/89433283
Nelson tests positive for gunshot residue
Clothing Shawna Nelson was wearing at the time of her arrest last January ,as well as her right hand and face, tested positive for gunshot residue, said Alex Rugh, with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
Rugh testified this morning that Nelson’s sweat pants, tank top, sweater, baseball cap, underwear, latex glove, and right shoe tested positive for gunshot residue.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 02:15 PM
from same article..
Yvonne Woods, a lab agent with CBI, testified she prepared the samples from Nelson’s clothes and found no blood on any of the items.
Xmygrits
02-28-2008, 02:18 PM
LOL I didn't mean anything negative. It's just MarcS was getting frustrated with a lot of stuff and constantly saying don't do this or that. It was of a little birdie in ear whisper to ya.
Gotcha! Thanks!
Xmygrits
02-28-2008, 02:19 PM
Ohh we are getting the replay of Shawna's selffishness phone call!! Trying to make Ken feel guilty for her being there.
I really truly think Ken was so emotionally minipulated by Shawna. I mean, he was even willing to accept her illigitimate child with IG as his own! I think he really did freak out when he heard the radio call that HG was shot and SN was the suspect.
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 02:23 PM
I really truly think Ken was so emotionally minipulated by Shawna. I mean, he was even willing to accept her illigitimate child with IG as his own! I think he really did freak out when he heard the radio call that HG was shot and SN was the suspect.
He said on the stand that his first thought was that his children were dead. That's so sad. I can't imagine how terrified that thought could be.
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 02:25 PM
from same article..
And that is why the Pros asked what hand she used to write with when questioning the detective who arrived on scene of her and Hulsey.
bambam
02-28-2008, 02:36 PM
ok pinky says it was unclebob from the kenosha news that the judge went OFF on yesterday!!! she's not 100% sure tho
Audie
02-28-2008, 02:38 PM
Her undies tested positive for GSR? Is she like a trick shooter or something?
kindee
02-28-2008, 02:46 PM
Her undies tested positive for GSR? Is she like a trick shooter or something?
:girl_haha:
Cornblossom
02-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Her undies tested positive for GSR? Is she like a trick shooter or something?
LMAO.......she had on her hubby's dirty undies.......him being a cop...GSR could have been transferred to his undies...if he was shooting.:0012:
Baranis
02-28-2008, 02:51 PM
LMAO.......she had on her hubby's dirty undies.......him being a cop...GSR could have been transferred to his undies...if he was shooting.:0012:
Must have been when she put the gun in her waistband.
Just my thinking.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 02:51 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20080226/NEWS/435332443
Prosecutor Clifford Riedel said Garraus' letter of "intent to sue" would unfairly taint the jury because it didn't tell the full story -- that Greeley police knew that Nelson had had an affair with another police officer and had also threatened that officer's wife.
"It was put in for the purpose of showing the greedy nature of Mr. Garraus," Riedel said. "Now, the jury has the impression of Mr. Garraus' greedy nature."
Weld District Court Judge Roger Klein, who last fall ruled evidence of previous threats alleged to have been made by Nelson were inadmissible in the current case, disagreed.
I don't agree with the judge here. He should've let others who have been threatened by SN testify.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 02:53 PM
where u guys watching, cuz I've had nothing for a long time. not even replay. i'm on cbs4denver
bambam
02-28-2008, 03:00 PM
where u guys watching, cuz I've had nothing for a long time. not even replay. i'm on cbs4denver
go here, but i think it's lunchtime now:
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 03:05 PM
Her undies tested positive for GSR? Is she like a trick shooter or something?
It could have gotten on them from her hands when she changed clothing at jail house
kindee
02-28-2008, 03:07 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20080226/NEWS/435332443
I don't agree with the judge here. He should've let others who have been threatened by SN testify.
I do too. But you know the perp gets all the rights.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 03:09 PM
go here, but i think it's lunchtime now:
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
thanks, that does seem to be where the replay is playing now. what time are the due back from lunch? man, this audio is terrible.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 03:13 PM
We're back live and waiting for jury/
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 03:16 PM
we're back
Audie
02-28-2008, 03:29 PM
LMAO.......she had on her hubby's dirty undies.......him being a cop...GSR could have been transferred to his undies...if he was shooting.:0012:Ah Ha! The old undie switcheroo trick.
awakening2lite
02-28-2008, 03:30 PM
I posted the story on Shawna's jail phone calls on the trial sticky thread.
There is something about this witness that reminds me of Kate Jackson, although she really doesn't look like her. The eyes maybe? Or, am I :francis:
kindee
02-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Ah Ha! The old undie switcheroo trick.
yeah, the "brief" exchange :girl_haha:
bambam
02-28-2008, 03:36 PM
There is something about this witness that reminds me of Kate Jackson, although she really doesn't look like her. The eyes maybe? Or, am I :francis:
hey cat! didn't know you were "out there" lol! yeah, you're right, she does favor kate jackson!
kindee
02-28-2008, 03:37 PM
There is something about this witness that reminds me of Kate Jackson, although she really doesn't look like her. The eyes maybe? Or, am I :francis:
I can see that...plus, she would make a GREAT Charlie's Angel!~:innocent1:
hey cat! didn't know you were "out there" lol! yeah, you're right, she does favor kate jackson!
Hi, I just came in to "see" all you nice posters. I turned on the feed for a while, and I'm still here. :love0085:
I can see that...plus, she would make a GREAT Charlie's Angel!~:innocent1:
Ok, that's two that agree. I feel better now. :girl_haha: I have always been good at resemblances, but sometimes I don't know what features remind me of someone.
Do you finally have good weather, kindee? We got some warmer days, but are supposed to get snow again this evening. Geez, enough already. :mad:
bambam
02-28-2008, 03:44 PM
ok i prolly shouldn't put this "out there"-- but.... i consider y'all to be my friends....
i just found out that my brother (whom i dearly love, and feel we are close) just discovered that his wife (my SIL) of 13 years.... has been having a FIVE year affair behind his back!!!!!!!!!! FIVE years!!! i just found out that he caught her a few months back.... and she said she would break it off..... and the other nite he found a cell phone in her car that he knew NOTHING about... all calls to her lover!!!!!!! he was devastated!!!! he is heartbroken... finally told her he was filing for divorce, and to get out. she brought her mother over to his house and moved some of her stuff... and took off. this is just crazy for our family.... they have been together and she has been a part of our family for soooooo long... it is BLOWING my mind..... i am sooooo saddened and shocked by the whole thing!! all i know to do is to be there for my brother!!! how could she do this to him???? he is the most wonderful guy a woman could ask for!! she is an idiot!!! i know it will take some time for me to take all of this in.... my poor bro!!!!!
Wow, bambam, that is devastating for your brother and your whole family. I am so sorry. You all will get through it though. Giving your brother your support is the main thing.
bambam
02-28-2008, 03:52 PM
Wow, bambam, that is devastating for your brother and your whole family. I am so sorry. You all will get through it though. Giving your brother your support is the main thing.
yes, you are right cat... all i can do is support him.. poor thing, i hate it for him... and i hate her for doing this!! i am still in shock.... thinking she will come to her senses... but my God-- FIVE years????? screw her!! she needs to go!!! this is crazy!!! but we will get thru it... have to!! thanks cat
yes, you are right cat... all i can do is support him.. poor thing, i hate it for him... and i hate her for doing this!! i am still in shock.... thinking she will come to her senses... but my God-- FIVE years????? screw her!! she needs to go!!! this is crazy!!! but we will get thru it... have to!! thanks cat
Hate will not help, bambam, just release her and let her go. Many women (and men) don't know what they have until they leave it. :love0085:
bambam
02-28-2008, 04:00 PM
Hate will not help, bambam, just release her and let her go. Many women (and men) don't know what they have until they leave it. :love0085:
you are right about hate, cat. i am not a "hating" person. actually, it's not HATE that i feel for her... my family was always quite fond of her... i can't have "instant hate". maybe it's pity... she is soooo wrong to do this. but apparently she has made a choice. i only wish it would not hurt my brother so... but that is unavoidable. he will be ok. he has to. my family will stand by him and make sure!
you are right about hate, cat. i am not a "hating" person. actually, it's not HATE that i feel for her... my family was always quite fond of her... i can't have "instant hate". maybe it's pity... she is soooo wrong to do this. but apparently she has made a choice. i only wish it would not hurt my brother so... but that is unavoidable. he will be ok. he has to. my family will stand by him and make sure!
I knew you weren't that kind of person, bam. I can feel how nice you are through your posts. I gave up hating a long time ago, because it only comes back to us and often makes us ill.
I know your brother will appreciate you and all of your family through this ordeal. Divorce is rarely easy.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:06 PM
bam,
I'm so sorry for you and especially your brother! Your focus will be on helping your brother best deal with his loss. Don't waste energy on your negative feelings to her, though they are understandable. You're human like the rest of us, and no one likes when someone they love has been or is being hurt. It will take a while for your brother to come to full terms of what has happened, so you just need to be there for him for any support he needs. I'll say a prayer for you and your family.
september
02-28-2008, 04:08 PM
Hi everybody!!!!!!!!!!
I found you! I've been wondering where the mensa members of the old courttv message boards had gone. And now I know. I've missed you all so much the insession board is not the same without you. Even Sprocket is here. How great this is.
So happy to be with you all again.
September
Ps: How do I get a great pic to put up along side message?
bambam
02-28-2008, 04:09 PM
I knew you weren't that kind of person, bam. I can feel how nice you are through your posts. I gave up hating a long time ago, because it only comes back to us and often makes us ill.
I know your brother will appreciate you and all of your family through this ordeal. Divorce is rarely easy.
thanks cat. i appreciate you taking some time to talk to me about this. i just gave my bro a call about going over to visit with him tonight. i had to leave a voicemail. i hope he will call me back and want to see me... but if not tonight, i will understand. i will make sure i see him over the weekend. he may need a little time to himself. whew! the things that life hurls at us! wow, you just never know, do ya?
eta: im sorry folks for being so OT. i will not discuss this further. just needed to let it out!
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:09 PM
so she will testify, OMG!
Baranis
02-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Shawna states to judge that she WILL testify.
One witness, and then SN. If I heard correctly.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:10 PM
bet it's so she can discredit things said by MM!
bambam
02-28-2008, 04:11 PM
so she will testify, OMG!
OMG!! shawna's gonna testify???? you're KIDDING!!!!!
Hi everybody!!!!!!!!!!
I found you! I've been wondering where the mensa members of the old courttv message boards had gone. And now I know. I've missed you all so much the insession board is not the same without you. Even Sprocket is here. How great this is.
So happy to be with you all again.
September
Ps: How do I get a great pic to put up along side message?
Welcome, September. For an avatar, you just go to User CP, under the Control Panel, pick Edit Avatar. There are pics to choose from there, or you can upload one from your computer.
bambam
02-28-2008, 04:13 PM
bam,
I'm so sorry for you and especially your brother! Your focus will be on helping your brother best deal with his loss. Don't waste energy on your negative feelings to her, though they are understandable. You're human like the rest of us, and no one likes when someone they love has been or is being hurt. It will take a while for your brother to come to full terms of what has happened, so you just need to be there for him for any support he needs. I'll say a prayer for you and your family.
thank you shortcake! i am kinda embarassed about bringing this here.... sorry! i just needed some encouragment... and value what you all think! so thanks, i appreciate it.
thanks cat. i appreciate you taking some time to talk to me about this. i just gave my bro a call about going over to visit with him tonight. i had to leave a voicemail. i hope he will call me back and want to see me... but if not tonight, i will understand. i will make sure i see him over the weekend. he may need a little time to himself. whew! the things that life hurls at us! wow, you just never know, do ya?
eta: im sorry folks for being so OT. i will not discuss this further. just needed to let it out!
If you want to talk some more, just pm me. I know all about grief, believe me.
september
02-28-2008, 04:14 PM
I just found this trial and you all. Please, can someone give me a quick summary?
TIA
September
I just found this trial and you all. Please, can someone give me a quick summary?
TIA
September
Here are trial links: http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2784
kindee
02-28-2008, 04:19 PM
Hi everybody!!!!!!!!!!
I found you! I've been wondering where the mensa members of the old courttv message boards had gone. And now I know. I've missed you all so much the insession board is not the same without you. Even Sprocket is here. How great this is.
So happy to be with you all again.
September
Ps: How do I get a great pic to put up along side message?
hellllloooooooooo!!!!!!!! :happy0207:
And bam, that reeks. That kind of thing just shakes a world, doesn't it? :1222423:
And Shawna is going to take the stand in a few.
What is happening? Why is everyone just sitting around looking at each other? :confused:
Ok, they are calling her. Big mistake, I think.
bambam
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
omg!!!! she's on the stand!!
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Shawna!!! So glad she's now. I have to leave in 45 min.
Karental
02-28-2008, 04:32 PM
Wow, I found the live stream just in time!
Oh, and hi everybody
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:33 PM
Boy, hope Michelle Bush realizes how lulcky she is to still be alive. I wouldn't want to cross this woman.
Shoot! I should have bet how quickly the tears would start.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 04:36 PM
She should have known their relationship wouldn't last, if when it started it was a terminal relationship. ;) LOL
Wow, I found the live stream just in time!
Oh, and hi everybody
WELCOME, Karental. Glad you found us.
september
02-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Thank you for the welcome and infor, Kindee and Cat
September
Thank you for the welcome and infor, Kindee and Cat
September
You're very welcome, september. You will like it here. I haven't had to put one poster on ignore. It's wonderful. :basic44:
Baranis
02-28-2008, 04:48 PM
Her emotions on the stand quickly change. Even the voice inflection.
Karental
02-28-2008, 04:53 PM
Can someone please explain how this is helping her defense?
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 04:56 PM
I got booted off the chat again.
Can someone please explain how this is helping her defense?
I don't think it is.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 05:03 PM
I got booted off the laptop...can someone post the link to the live feed, pretty please.
shortcake
02-28-2008, 05:03 PM
How in the world could she go back to Iggy with what Ken was willing to do for her. She makes me as sick as MJ!!
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 05:04 PM
This woman is her own worst enemy
Baranis
02-28-2008, 05:05 PM
I got booted off the laptop...can someone post the link to the live feed, pretty please.
http://mfile.akamai.com/12930/live/reflector:59818.asx
This is not much fun with everyone off at the chat on the feed. The Jensen trial was so gripping, it's a hard act to follow anyway.
Karental
02-28-2008, 05:12 PM
:happy0207: Adios, everybody! Hope to see you tomorrow. IMO this woman shoulda kept her trap shut. Jmo of course
shortcake
02-28-2008, 05:16 PM
gotta be the chauffeur, please post some notes somebody. TIA
Baranis
02-28-2008, 05:31 PM
http://cww1981.homestead.com/barbeque_-_lion.gif
She's cooked on cross.
Baranis, is that character supposed to be a cat? :shock:
Baranis
02-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Baranis, is that character supposed to be a cat? :shock:
No, a wolf.
My image was she will be barbecued on cross.
No, a wolf.
Canine
Thank goodness; that would have been one ugly cat. LOL The tail threw me--it looks more like a cat's tail to me.
kindee
02-28-2008, 05:44 PM
Wow, I found the live stream just in time!
Oh, and hi everybody
hello! Are you chatting?:girl_haha:
kindee
02-28-2008, 05:46 PM
Can someone please explain how this is helping her defense?
ya got me! she's a stalker, knows how to shoot a gun and hates the dead woman. Per her own testimony!
shortcake
02-28-2008, 05:55 PM
when should cross start? i just got back and now have to cook dinner but want to try to listen. Thanks!!
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 05:57 PM
http://www.osomin.com/cookedgoose.jpg
kindee
02-28-2008, 06:04 PM
when should cross start? i just got back and now have to cook dinner but want to try to listen. Thanks!!
OOOOOH I have to go to work! I hope I don't miss the cross. THAT is going to be splendid!
TigressPen
02-28-2008, 07:13 PM
OOOOOH I have to go to work! I hope I don't miss the cross. THAT is going to be splendid!
Cross is tomorrow morning.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 07:36 PM
Thank goodness. I was miserable thinking I was missing all the good stuff.
I'll bet the da is so excited he doesn't sleep all night.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 07:48 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20080228/NEWS/208852698
February 28, 2008
While pregnant with Ignacio Garraus' child, Shawna Nelson said in court today that she told Heather Garraus the two never had an affair.
However, Nelson testified that her affair with Garraus lasted nearly three years.
She said that she and Michelle Moore's relationship was intimate, contrary to what Moore testified to earlier this week. Nelson said that while their relationship was not exclusive to each other, they also were free to date men.
Nelson confirmed the she emailed and sent text messages to the Garrauses, including one that called Heather Garraus 'psycho.' She said she was upset that Ignacio Garraus wanted nothing to do with their son.
Nelson said when she confronted Ignacio face to face about their break up, he said that he didn't love her anymore and that their son would be better off with Ken Nelson.
"I was shocked. I was shocked. I looked at him and said, 'You are a loser,' and I got in my car and left," Nelson said.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 07:52 PM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20070427/NEWS/104270117/0/FRONTPAGE
April 27, 2007
Court records unsealed Thursday reveal that police officers, searching a computer tower at the home of Shawna Nelson's sister, found suspected child pornography.
Shawna Nelson does not appear to be suspected of owning the images. The computer was at the home of her sister, Deborah Smith, but it is not clear whether she or someone else is under investigation.
The records explain why police officers wanted to seal court records from the public's view -- specifically, an affidavit supporting a search warrant at Smith's home. The officers wanted to examine computers from which Shawna Nelson told her sister to delete some photographs.
:shock:
Details
02-28-2008, 07:56 PM
I just found this trial and you all. Please, can someone give me a quick summary?
TIA
SeptemberAwhile back, there was an escape from the Jerry Springer show - and this trial is the result. That's pretty much it.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 08:00 PM
Awhile back, there was an escape from the Jerry Springer show - and this trial is the result. That's pretty much it.
You've summed it up nicely.
DeeJay
02-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Thank goodness. I was miserable thinking I was missing all the good stuff.
I'll bet the da is so excited he doesn't sleep all night.
:hifive: He's been salabating all day today and tonight.
DeeJay
02-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Awhile back, there was an escape from the Jerry Springer show - and this trial is the result. That's pretty much it.
:67302: :happy0158:
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 10:20 PM
OMGosh!!! I'm watching part 2 of SN's testimony. She is unbelievable. I so wish I could see the faces of the jury. PLEASE let them talk to the media when this is over.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Noooooo...the video ran out in the middle of her testimony!!!!! :duh::duh::mad:
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 10:49 PM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15435823/detail.html
Good link to blog covering todays testimony. Reporter did a good job of catching the highlights of SN's appearance on the stand.
KittyMom
02-28-2008, 11:07 PM
http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2007/11/20/shawna_nelson_t220.jpg
http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2007/03/03/434624192_e_t220.jpg
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 08:02 AM
OMGosh!!! I'm watching part 2 of SN's testimony. She is unbelievable. I so wish I could see the faces of the jury. PLEASE let them talk to the media when this is over.
Some of what she said was inconsistent with what she said the night of the shooting during her interview with police. During the interview, she said she just decided to take the truck and left her car there because the kids would see it and think she was still home. IIRC
What truck key did she take? Ken stated that she had a key on her keychain to it. Her keychain was beside her purse. How could she forget it, if she took time to remove the truck key from her chain?
Ken also said it wasn't norm for Christian to be in the basement. She said he had toys down there, they'd put a lot of his toys down there with the other kids games etc.
She said she locked the bedroom door so kids wouldn't bother her. Why would they bother her if they were busy watching the baby and playing with their video games. Why leave the BR door locked when she left?
I can't wait until the Pros questions her. All her little forgetfulness will shine as deliberate cold calculating actions of a murderer. IMO.
I guess an invisible friend took over the truck, drove it to the crime scene so the tire tracks could be left, shot Heather, left shell casings belonging to a gun that didn't belong to bullets left in Heather's body and at scene, put on her mask, used Shawna's voice to talk to her, ran like Shawna, and drove off only allowing her to see anything after Ken stopped her. LOL
Yep. The state has convinced me she killed Heather.
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 08:06 AM
OMGosh!!! I'm watching part 2 of SN's testimony. She is unbelievable. I so wish I could see the faces of the jury. PLEASE let them talk to the media when this is over.
I was thinking the same thing while listening to her. I hope the jury talks to media after the trial. I'd like to know how they feel about her not showing remorse at any time during this trial. She only cried at convenient times on the stand. And that was short lived!!
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 08:07 AM
Awhile back, there was an escape from the Jerry Springer show - and this trial is the result. That's pretty much it.
The best description of Shawna I heard yet!!! LOL
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 08:11 AM
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20070427/NEWS/104270117/0/FRONTPAGE
April 27, 2007
:shock:
OMG!! I hope they do a detailed investigation of her!! I had read that Shawna had asked Debra to go to a site and delete certain pics, I wonder if those were the pictures.
If they were Shawna's and not Debra's pics.
KittyMom
02-29-2008, 08:13 AM
:girl_sad:I've got an appt at 10 eastern. I'm guessing that I'll miss the best part of the day...the pros doing a tap dance all over SN's testimony. Will someone PLEASE beg MarcS to get the cross in its entirety. Pretty Please!!! :innocent0001:
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 08:26 AM
:girl_sad:I've got an appt at 10 eastern. I'm guessing that I'll miss the best part of the day...the pros doing a tap dance all over SN's testimony. Will someone PLEASE beg MarcS to get the cross in its entirety. Pretty Please!!! :innocent0001:
I hope they put up all Shawna's testimony on their site. Defense and Cross questioning. She was all explanatory with defense. She'll be on defensive with Pros. :girl_haha:
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 09:34 AM
The Judge told the lawyers to be there at 8 so they could review jury instructions. I hope they go live with that too. They may discuss what exhibits etc the jury will have with them during deliberations. Unless the lawyers have made new ones for CAs and will want those to go back to jurors too.
bambam
02-29-2008, 09:35 AM
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii150/cheercoachbeth/good-morning.jpg
here's my alarm clock from this morning..... it's not going so great yet.... maybe coffee will help, but i doubt it.....
i'll feel better in a little while, won't i???? man... i hope so!!
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 09:43 AM
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii150/cheercoachbeth/good-morning.jpg
here's my alarm clock from this morning..... it's not going so great yet.... maybe coffee will help, but i doubt it.....
i'll feel better in a little while, won't i???? man... i hope so!!
You destroyed Big Ben!!! :1187603408.CR.Mothe :67302:
kindee
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
So did Shawna finish on the stand yesterday? Did the pros. finish their cross?
TigressPen
02-29-2008, 09:45 AM
So did Shawna finish on the stand yesterday? Did the pros. finish their cross?
Pros starts their cross this morning. 8:30!!
kindee
02-29-2008, 09:49 AM
Pros starts their cross this morning. 8:30!!
:basic44:
Oh I'm so excited!
bambam
02-29-2008, 09:50 AM
Pros starts their cross this morning. 8:30!!
http://th156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/pegaduke/ITS%20FRIDAY/th_88574bb02454a65.gif
yea!! now i've found 2 reasons to feel better!! :0012:
kindee
02-29-2008, 09:50 AM
:girl_sad:I've got an appt at 10 eastern. I'm guessing that I'll miss the best part of the day...the pros doing a tap dance all over SN's testimony. Will someone PLEASE beg MarcS to get the cross in its entirety. Pretty Please!!! :innocent0001:
I'll sure give him our opinions KittyMom. Hurry back!
kindee
02-29-2008, 09:50 AM
http://th156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/pegaduke/ITS%20FRIDAY/th_88574bb02454a65.gif
yea!! now i've found 2 reasons to feel better!! :0012:
Bam what is the status of your trees?
bambam
02-29-2008, 09:53 AM
Bam what is the status of your trees?
i didn't hear from them yesterday!! and when i tried to call, i kept getting cut off! that's why i'm not in a real happy mood this morning. i'm trying to call them right now! arrrggghh! the guy was going to bring his supervisor out to check out the tree situation.... or so he SAID! :girl_sad:
bambam
02-29-2008, 10:00 AM
my dh gave me a LIST of things to do today around the house!!!!! can you believe the NERVE of him??? he says i'm sitting on my azz far too much at the puter watching trials!!! he said he will take the puter away if i don't get those things done!!! lol treating me like a child!! i thought he KNEW better! i don't know what's gotten into him, but he has another thing comin if he thinks i will actually do all those "chores" he suggested!! lmao! :67302:
Karental
02-29-2008, 10:01 AM
:basic44:
Oh I'm so excited!
I lost the live feed I had yesterday (maybe channel 9??). Can someone post a good feed link? Thanks 1,000,000 Oh, and good morning everyone.
kindee
02-29-2008, 10:02 AM
oh bam that's hilarious. I can only imagine what would happen around here if my DH gave me the same instructions! HAHAHAHAHAHA Well keep calling the dish folks. They deal with TREES all the time for cripe's sake.
kindee
02-29-2008, 10:03 AM
I lost the live feed I had yesterday (maybe channel 9??). Can someone post a good feed link? Thanks 1,000,000 Oh, and good morning everyone.
I'm watching this 'cause the chat offers so much information...they are now discussing the child porn Shawna wanted her sister to get rid of (on the 'puter).
Shawna has absolutely no morals I do swear:
http://media.myfoxcolorado.com/live/index2.html
and we've got Clock people!
here's the child porn link:
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20070427/NEWS/104270117/0/FRONTPAGE
mitch
02-29-2008, 10:05 AM
http://th156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/pegaduke/ITS%20FRIDAY/th_88574bb02454a65.gif
yea!! now i've found 2 reasons to feel better!! :0012:
good morning bam and everyone.
bam i saw your post yesterday afternoon. i am really sorry about your brother. what else can one say except:1222423:for the both of you.
you didn't mention any kids do they have any?
i got banned from the CO chat yesterday. looking forward to the cross of SN today.
bambam
02-29-2008, 10:07 AM
oh bam that's hilarious. I can only imagine what would happen around here if my DH gave me the same instructions! HAHAHAHAHAHA Well keep calling the dish folks. They deal with TREES all the time for cripe's sake.
yeah, i think this guy was new. he kept saying he was from arizona. ? he had a hard time finding his way here, kept calling me for directions, and getting all turned around! it's like he didn't know where anything was.. no landmarks at all!! someone is supposed to be calling me back any time now... we'll see!
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