ABC's 20/20 Discussion 2/29/08

[wi_twin_mom]

Let the discussion begin!

[kindee]

I have 25 minutes until the show. I'm in!

[kellabeck]

I have decided to watch and not post. But I will check in tomorrow. Really looking forward to this show.

I told a friend about the case and show and she said she had a friend with a letter like Julie's!! I told her to be sure to have her friend WATCH this show!!

[Pinkypoo]

I'm here....and you better not talk about dead people talking to you!




:s1gyahoo:

[kindee]

are you right coasties getting it already?

[IfIMay]

are you right coasties getting it already?

Hi Kindee. Starts at 9:00 here (15 minutes)

[shortcake]

we've got 15 min. to go here

[kindee]

Hi Kindee. Starts at 9:00 here (15 minutes)



woooo hoooooo I'm set!

[Tracian]

I live in CA...what is going to be the topic?????

I don't get it for three hours!

[Tracian]

I live in CA...what is going to be the topic?????

I don't get it for three hours!


See, If I read the whole thing, I would have known...damn trying to make dinner and check the boards...:71541:

I will watch and chime in tomorrow :)

[Bernie]

Hello all......:howdy:

[kindee]

The subject is: Mark Jensen: LWOPP.

[kindee]

Hello all......:howdy:



hiya Bernie! :howdy:

[wi_twin_mom]

3 mins. gals!

[kindee]

& guys! Here we go!

[Pinkypoo]

oh gosh they show Julie in bed......:(

[kindee]

oh gosh they show Julie in bed......:(



and Ed Klug. oh, not in bed!!! ha!

Here we go peeps!

do you think Corny's name might come up?

[Pinkypoo]

Ohh they filmed the house!
I do love seeing pleasant prairie on there.

[shortcake]

if they paint Mark in a favorable light, i'm gonna lose my sanity

[kindee]

Ohh they filmed the house!
I do love seeing pleasant prairie on there.



It looks lovely; I've never seen that group family photo before.

[kindee]

if they paint Mark in a favorable light, i'm gonna lose my sanity



I don't think this is a happy ending for Mark. :1222423:

[Pinkypoo]

Oh I don't like that they show her laying in that bed like that. It is so sad.

[kindee]

he threw Julie's stuff into the trash.

Jambois is a hero. Hero.

[wi_twin_mom]

so far, so good

[kindee]

so far, so good



yes. And knowing how it ends does help.

[RayStar]

His eyes give me the flux.

[wi_twin_mom]

commerical!

[kindee]

I like the photos I haven't seen. And the Vojt's. This is new stuff.

[wi_twin_mom]

This is harder than I thought! Typing and posting... I'm glad I'm recording this.

[kindee]

This is harder than I thought! Typing and posting... I'm glad I'm recording this.



It never hurts to record things. Did you see your bro on already?

[shortcake]

it helps, but I remember the Melanie McGuire stories on these shows, and you really knew there was more to the story. my poor hubby i'm already giving him an ear full about the Ambien and why it was there.

[wi_twin_mom]

This is the clip from ABC's website.

[wi_twin_mom]

It never hurts to record things. Did you see your bro on already?

Yes!

[kindee]

The Vojt's never opened the letter until Julie died. Can you imagine that?

[kindee]

Yes!



Is that just mind blowing for you?

[shortcake]

man you gotta love these brothers

[wi_twin_mom]

The Vojt's never opened the letter until Julie died. Can you imagine that?

No, I would have opened it. I would be too tempted!

[kindee]

man you gotta love these brothers



and Jambois. He is THERE.

The video of MJ...going about his life. Just freaky. I know he had years of freedom but to see it...isn't fair.

[RayStar]

WOW Angie LOL

[kindee]

No, I would have opened it. I would be too tempted!


I don't think they did, though.

This is cool, hearing what Ms. Gabrielle and Mr. Jambois thought when they saw Mark being confronted with the letter.

[IfIMay]

The Vojt's never opened the letter until Julie died. Can you imagine that?

Shows a lot of respect for a friend. I wouldn't open it either.

[kindee]

Shows a lot of respect for a friend. I wouldn't open it either.



I KNOW I would not open it.

[RayStar]

Looking over his shoulder remined me of Cutts when he was at his mom or aunt's house.
Killer lookback I think I'll call it.

[wi_twin_mom]

So far I think this is going to be a positive story about Julie! Looks that way anyway.

[IfIMay]

I KNOW I would not open it.

You're a good person and a good friend, Kindee. I'd trust you with my letter.:friends3:

[Pinkypoo]

WOW Angie LOL


OMG did she say on TV what I think she said! :s1gyahoo:

[kindee]

You're a good person and a good friend, Kindee. I'd trust you with my letter.:friends3:



Count on it. I have 14 year olds telling me their secrets and you could not BEAT them out of me.

Unless you told me when to divulge.

You know it, bud. :love0085:

[SummerMadness]

it helps, but I remember the Melanie McGuire stories on these shows, and you really knew there was more to the story. my poor hubby i'm already giving him an ear full about the Ambien and why it was there.


I think 20/20 is doing a far better job so far on this case. all the shows that did the Mcguire story left out the best parts. They were so sketchy, I wondered why they bothered.

[Pinkypoo]

any chance David, doug or Kelly will be on?

[RayStar]

OMG did she say on TV what I think she said! :s1gyahoo:

I think so.:basic45:

[SummerMadness]

any chance David, doug or Kelly will be on?

I think Kelly is out speed dating

[kindee]

any chance David, doug or Kelly will be on?



Who did they interview last week? I think they must have brought guests to the Green Bay affiliate or whatever.

[shortcake]

I think 20/20 is doing a far better job so far on this case. all the shows that did the Mcguire story left out the best parts. They were so sketchy, I wondered why they bothered.

agreed, so far so good.

[wi_twin_mom]

Who did they interview last week? I think they must have brought guests to the Green Bay affiliate or whatever.

They interviewed my brother in Milwaukee.

[shortcake]

only the shadow knows

[DeeJay]

What did Angie say? :z0tdntknw:

I can't get 20/20 for another 2 1/2 hours!!:girl_sad:

[kindee]

They interviewed my brother in Milwaukee.



I'm not good at geography. :girl_haha:


Thanks for the info! Do you know who else they interviewed?

[IfIMay]

What did Angie say? :z0tdntknw:

I can't get 20/20 for another 2 1/2 hours!!:girl_sad:

she dropped the f-bomb! LOL. She was great.

[wi_twin_mom]

Oooh, Kelly's HS picture!!! Not bad looking back then.

[kindee]

WOW Angie LOL



Ms. Gabrielle is a pistol! :francis:

[kindee]

she dropped the f-bomb! LOL. She was great.



Still Waters Run Deep.

[DeeJay]

she dropped the f-bomb! LOL. She was great.

TY!!

she did? Oh my....:71526:

[shortcake]

the background music is pretty

[shortcake]

wow, did you see KJ picture??????

[wi_twin_mom]

Surprise witnesses next!!! We know who!

[RayStar]

Ms. Gabrielle is a pistol! :francis:
YES :grin:

[kindee]

All the videos etc of Mark at large show the same arrogant superior affect.

Hubris is a bear.

[RayStar]

Surprise witnesses next!!! We know who!
Klug?

[wi_twin_mom]

wow, did you see KJ picture??????

Yes, she was kind of cute, in a plain sort of way. Boy, the sex must have been really, really good!

[SummerMadness]

wow, did you see KJ picture??????

Yes, back when the mattress was firm

[wi_twin_mom]

Klug?

:yes2:

[DeeJay]

Surprise witnesses next!!! We know who!

Dillard?

Tell me if I'm right....I can not see the show yet! TIA! :happy0207:

I'm going to tape it when it does get over here!

[DeeJay]

Yes, back when the mattress was firm

:girl_haha:

[RayStar]

Yes, back when the mattress was firm

LOL Sagging springs now!

[shortcake]

I'm thinking they really had her dress down for the court appearance.

[wi_twin_mom]

:67302::thud2::francis:Yes, back when the mattress was firm

[kindee]

:yes2:



:francis:

[shortcake]

I love J. Schroeder's courtroom, so regal looking.

[SummerMadness]

Dillard?

Tell me if I'm right....I can not see the show yet! TIA! :happy0207:

I'm going to tape it when it does get over here!

It has not come up yet, they are now talking about the letter Julie wrote and almost not making it to trial.

[RayStar]

I love J. Schroeder's courtroom, so regal looking.

YES

[kindee]

It has not come up yet, they are now talking about the letter Julie wrote and almost not making it to trial.



Mr. Jambois and Ms. Gabrielle are awesome.

Here is Ed Klug! I believe him 100%.

[SummerMadness]

Mr. Jambois and Ms. Gabrielle are awesome.

Here is Ed Klug! I believe him 100%.

Klug is talking to Jay Schadler (sp) in a BAR!!!

[DeeJay]

I love J. Schroeder's courtroom, so regal looking.


Yes indeed. I've commented a few times on the
Kenosha courtroom....I really like it. Wish the
trial had been held there.

[shortcake]

Yes, back when the mattress was firm

Summer, is there ever a time when you are not at the top of your game with your wit? :67302::67302:

[kindee]

Klug is talking to Jay Schadler (sp) in a BAR!!!



how ironic! :zm10:

[RayStar]

The JUDGE! LOL This is better than good. LOL I feel giddy.

[SummerMadness]

Summer, is there ever a time when you are not at the top of your game with your wit? :67302::67302:


It's not wit, it's white wine.:zm10:

[wi_twin_mom]

Klug is talking to Jay Schadler (sp) in a BAR!!!

The bar is in some grand old hotel in downtown Milwaukee. My brother said it was on the second floor. They talked for about an hour. After the cameras were off Jay told him that he could understand how MJ opened up to him.

[wi_twin_mom]

Aaron Dillard!

[SummerMadness]

The bar is in some grand old hotel in downtown Milwaukee. My brother said it was on the second floor. They talked for about an hour. After the cameras were off Jay told him that he could understand how MJ opened up to him.

Wait...Klug is your brother?:doh:

[RayStar]

I believed Dillard.

[SummerMadness]

I believed Dillard.


Absolutely. Why didn't the jury believe him?

[wi_twin_mom]

Wait...Klug is your brother?:doh:

Yes, I thought everyone knew. I admitted that the day after the verdict.

[kindee]

It's not wit, it's white wine.:zm10:



The New Motto for Jackson Bros.Wineries ^^^^:zm10:

[kindee]

The bar is in some grand old hotel in downtown Milwaukee. My brother said it was on the second floor. They talked for about an hour. After the cameras were off Jay told him that he could understand how MJ opened up to him.



I LOVE old hotels and old bars in old hotels. SWEEEEET!

[RayStar]

I hate Dr. Borman. I feel he let Julie down.

[SummerMadness]

:hifive:The New Motto for Jackson Bros.Wineries

:hifive:I need a cut of that action.

[kindee]

:hifive:

:hifive:I need a cut of that action.




It's got ZIIIING! :zm10:

[SummerMadness]

Yes, I thought everyone knew. I admitted that the day after the verdict.


I must have missed it. God bless him for coming forward, he did the right thing and I believed him.

[kindee]

I hate Dr. Borman. I feel he let Julie down.



I bet he suffers the consequences. He helped Mark, imo.

[wi_twin_mom]

Robert Jambois, the smartest rat in the sewer. - Old man Jensen

[DeeJay]

I believed Dillard.

Me, too. He knew if he'd lied, it wouldn't bode well
for him. Add lying under oath in a murder trial? :0doh:

Would just get him more time in the pokey.

[RayStar]

I bet he suffers the consequences. He helped Mark, imo. I hope he does especially after this trial. That Pa Jensen is a JEWEL! :grin:
LOL

[SummerMadness]

Robert Jambois, the smartest rat in the sewer. - Old man Jensen


Old man Jensen is just jealous, he is ONLY a rat.

[wi_twin_mom]

I must have missed it. God bless him for coming forward, he did the right thing and I believed him.

Thank you. I've gotten so many supportive posts that I read them to my brother.

[RayStar]

Robert Jambois, the smartest rat in the sewer. - Old man Jensen

LOL:grin:

[kindee]

I hope he does especially after this trial. That Pa Jensen is a JEWEL! :grin:
LOL



Pa and Ma Jensen as well. Karma's a beeetch.

[Bernie]

Old man Jensen is just jealous, he is ONLY a rat.

:67302:........:howdy:

[DeeJay]

I hate Dr. Borman. I feel he let Julie down.

I was not impressed with Borman, either.

[kindee]

Thank you. I've gotten so many supportive posts that I read them to my brother.



You know I've been 100% behind him, and you can pass that on! :howdy:

[Pinkypoo]

I love that....Smartest Rat in the Sewer!

[shortcake]

Too much action on the board tonight. It's not letting me post when I want.http://bestsmileys.com/crying/13.gif

[IfIMay]

ei yi yi...that Spiro. I hope I never have to see him again. I missed all of Dillard's testimony. It was interesting to see him after hearing so much about him.

[kindee]

ei yi yi...that Spiro. I hope I never have to see him again. I missed all of Dillard's testimony. It was interesting to see him after hearing so much about him.


And he's just a fading footnote now.
ahh Julie's Garden. And her boys. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[shortcake]

This is what it's all about. Those boys and what they need to know about the truth.

[shortcake]

Way to go, ABC. Send the message to the boys, THANK YOU!!!

[DeeJay]

I love that....Smartest Rat in the Sewer!


Well he's wrong...MJ is the sewer rat....Jambois caught &
trapped the rat. :basic44:

[kindee]

well that was wonderful..and beyond sad. Later peeps.

[shortcake]

I love that....Smartest Rat in the Sewer!

I would love to have heard more of the telephone conversations.

[wi_twin_mom]

20/20 did a very good job! It showed everyone in a pretty good light , well, except MJ!!

[wi_twin_mom]

well that was wonderful..and beyond sad. Later peeps.

Bye Kindee!

[RayStar]

Way to go, ABC. Send the message to the boys, THANK YOU!!!

Yes, this was truly a very informative program tonight.

[kindee]

Bye Kindee!



bye darlin!

[SummerMadness]

Way to go, ABC. Send the message to the boys, THANK YOU!!!


This was better than most. Still I would like to see these stories done more in depth, 1 hour with so many commercials is not enough.

[wi_twin_mom]

Way to go, ABC. Send the message to the boys, THANK YOU!!!

I wonder if Kelly let them watch. NOT!!! I bet they went to the movies or something. How sad.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[shortcake]

well that was wonderful..and beyond sad. Later peeps.

nite, kindee

[SummerMadness]

Nite everyone.

[wi_twin_mom]

This was better than most. Still I would like to see these stories done more in depth, 1 hour with so many commercials is not enough.

What does everyone think is the most important evidence that 20/20 didn't show?

[Pinkypoo]

Gosh I saw myself on 20/20 .... I wonder if people will want my autogaph now when i go to walmart.

[shortcake]

This was better than most. Still I would like to see these stories done more in depth, 1 hour with so many commercials is not enough.

my dh works with a local tv station, and those commercials have to pay the bills, i'm sorry to say. i hate 'em too, but i do enjoy living in a house.

[shortcake]

Gosh I saw myself on 20/20 .... I wonder if people will want my autogaph now when i go to walmart.
tell me where, i recorded it.

[wi_twin_mom]

Gosh I saw myself on 20/20 .... I wonder if people will want my autogaph now when i go to walmart.

I saw ya! Wow you're as famous as Cornblossom!!

[Pinkypoo]

I saw ya! Wow you're as famous as Cornblossom!!

Oh no...cornblossem is way more famous than I am ! :67302:

[Pinkypoo]

tell me where, i recorded it.


when they read the verdict in the courtroom. I smirk whne they read the verdict. You can barly make me out.

[shortcake]

I just thought about something. The poster that got called before the judge...do we know if her brother ended up getting to deliberate or was he an alternate?? anyone know?

[wi_twin_mom]

What does everyone think is the most important evidence that 20/20 didn't show?

How about the plot to kidnap my brother? Did anyone here this, I didn't.

[Bernie]

when they read the verdict in the courtroom. I smirk whne they read the verdict. You can barly make me out.

You cannt miss your smile............:howdy:

[shortcake]

when they read the verdict in the courtroom. I smirk whne they read the verdict. You can barly make me out.

I'll have to go back to it when others aren't watching too. Don't think they understand being into the Jensen trial that much. A trial is a trial to them.

[wi_twin_mom]

I just thought about something. The poster that got called before the judge...do we know if her brother ended up getting to deliberate or was he an alternate?? anyone know?

Not for sure, but I always thought he was that really young man. He looked about 18 or 19. JMO

[Bernie]

http://www.channel3000.com/news/15448160/detail.html

Heres another sad local story.........:0doh:

[wi_twin_mom]

I thought they would have talked about how smart the jury was putting the post-it note together with Julie's letter.

[Pinkypoo]

How about the plot to kidnap my brother? Did anyone here this, I didn't.


Nothing about that....or about the principal calling the day Julie called and MJ laughing at him.

[Pinkypoo]

http://www.channel3000.com/news/15448160/detail.html

Heres another sad local story.........:0doh:

OMG how awful!

[wi_twin_mom]

Nothing about that....or about the principal calling the day Julie called and MJ laughing at him.

That's a good one! He was so believeable.

[wi_twin_mom]

What does everyone think is the most important evidence that 20/20 didn't show?

How about when David was pleading to his dad to take his mom to the hospital.

[Pinkypoo]

Oh yes, they should have said something about that.

I thought it was a good program....but they did miss alot. Well it is only an hour long.

[shortcake]

I thought they would have talked about how smart the jury was putting the post-it note together with Julie's letter.
I thought that too. I really think someone at ABC (20/20)really wanted the boys to know about their mom.

[wi_twin_mom]

What does everyone think is the most important evidence that 20/20 didn't show?

How sick Julie was and how "SOMEONE" was looking up EG and then double erasing files on the computer. (How smart was Jambois convincing MJ to let them take his computer and do an investigation - for the insurance company!!!)

[Pinkypoo]

fun watching it with all of you....see you later.

[wi_twin_mom]

fun watching it with all of you....see you later.

Bye Pinky!

[wi_twin_mom]

DeeJay and some of you other west coast ppl...continue the conversation. We'll all want to hear what you think too!

[dojewo]

Hi all, I'm sorry I didn't join you for the show, although I did watch it with some of my family. They were very engrossed and I think they now understand why I watch these live trials.

[shortcake]

nite for now, all!

[wi_twin_mom]

Hi all, I'm sorry I didn't join you for the show, although I did watch it with some of my family. They were very engrossed and I think they now understand why I watch these live trials.

It was very hard to watch and post. I taped 20/20 because I knew I couldn't do both at once. They did a good job, but could have done another hour easily!!

[wi_twin_mom]

nite for now, all!

Good night shortcake!

[lovelaw]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I wish I could have been here tonight! I had other obligations. I taped the show. Sounds like it was good. Too tired to watch it now though.

GOOD NIGHT ALL!~

Have a GREAT WEEKEND!~

[dojewo]

It was very hard to watch and post. I taped 20/20 because I knew I couldn't do both at once. They did a good job, but could have done another hour easily!!

I so agree WTM, there is a part of me that's still looking for more of this trial. I'm just glad it ended like it did.

[dojewo]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I wish I could have been here tonight! I had other obligations. I taped the show. Sounds like it was good. Too tired to watch it now though.

GOOD NIGHT ALL!~

Have a GREAT WEEKEND!~
Night Love, you will enjoy how well they put the show together.

[SusiePMcD]

Let the discussion begin!


I just watched and getting here! WOW...I flipped and tried to watch the S. Grant show as well. AND the 3 young women killed in Japan.

Oh my gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello everyone:0012:

[wi_twin_mom]

I just watched and getting here! WOW...I flipped and tried to watch the S. Grant show as well. AND the 3 young women killed in Japan.

Oh my gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello everyone:0012:


Hi Susie! It was a great show!

[SusiePMcD]

http://www.channel3000.com/news/15448160/detail.html

Heres another sad local story.........:0doh:


Oh bernie!!!!!

what are these people thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope they burn...uuummmm you know ...in the HOT place down below!!!!!!!!

What a poor excuse for human beings...I hope they get tortured in the end!!

[Cat]

It was very hard to watch and post. I taped 20/20 because I knew I couldn't do both at once. They did a good job, but could have done another hour easily!!

I sure do agree with you on that, twin mom.

[SusiePMcD]

when they read the verdict in the courtroom. I smirk whne they read the verdict. You can barly make me out.


Okay Pinky...if the TV screen were a clock...what time would you be? That will help us pin point you!!! I want to SEE you.

OR...you could "freeze frame" it amd post it here!

Pretty please.:basic45:

[Bernie]

Oh bernie!!!!!

what are these people thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope they burn...uuummmm you know ...in the HOT place down below!!!!!!!!

What a poor excuse for human beings...I hope they get tortured in the end!!

Its unbelievable what some people will do................they'll get thiers in prison and they will..........:howdy:

[SusiePMcD]

my dh works with a local tv station, and those commercials have to pay the bills, i'm sorry to say. i hate 'em too, but i do enjoy living in a house.


LOL...I hear ya...I worked in local TV for 8 years in production/creative services. Gotta pay for air time!

[dojewo]

I wonder if anyone will post the 20/20 show on Youtube?

[SusiePMcD]

Its unbelievable what some people will do................they'll get thiers in prison and they will..........:howdy:

Yes...I think so...I had a dream about Markie last night...it was X-rated!

Prison...gets the best of him...LOL...In my dream...he had a nickname.

Hope I don't get banned for this...BUTT...his name was...

"The PENIS Poisoner"...and he was tortured...and was made to....you know...

.....uuummmmm....HUMMMMMM...:shock::shock::shock:

[SusiePMcD]

I wonder if anyone will post the 20/20 show on Youtube?


Hello DO...

I sure hope so...I missed the first 15 minutes.

maybe SLSimth will post it:basic45:

[SusiePMcD]

I sure do agree with you on that, twin mom.

Hi Cat:0012:

[Bernie]

For Mark.......

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg48/bernieh/16ae8357.gif

[dojewo]

Hello DO...

I sure hope so...I missed the first 15 minutes.

maybe SLSimth will post it:basic45:
That would be really nice if it was posted, I didn't get a chance to tape it, but I did watch it.

[dojewo]

For Mark.......

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg48/bernieh/16ae8357.gif
:hifive:

[SusiePMcD]

Yes, back when the mattress was firm


OH MY GAWD...you are TOO FUNNY


Just back reading now...your statement has me ROLLING!!!!!

:girl_haha::girl_haha::girl_haha:

[Cat]

Hi Cat:0012:

Hi Susie and good night. I'm bushed. See you soon. :love0085:

[SusiePMcD]

It's not wit, it's white wine.:zm10:


Check the label of your wine...bet it reads "Whitty White"...a sweet dry

wine...roboust...but sophisticated.:zm10:

[dojewo]

I'm out of here for the night also, see you all soon!

[SusiePMcD]

Wait...Klug is your brother?:doh:

Wake up and SMELL the coffee...I mean WINE:kidding-01:...she told us ....after the trial was over. So she keeps good secrets!!!!

We are in really good company here!!!!!:basic44:

[wi_twin_mom]

Okay Pinky...if the TV screen were a clock...what time would you be? That will help us pin point you!!! I want to SEE you.

OR...you could "freeze frame" it amd post it here!

Pretty please.:basic45:

I think vintage_rose did that yesterday!???

[SusiePMcD]

Hi Susie! It was a great show!


A BIG Texas howdy to you! yes it was perfect....:0012:

[wi_twin_mom]

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I hope this works.... this is supposed to be a picture of all of us at the sentencing. You can see Pinkypoo the best.

Ok it didn't work, I think her post is #10 the day of the sentencing. I'll check again.

[SusiePMcD]

I think vintage_rose did that yesterday!???

I missed it then...pooey! Guess I need to go hunt for it!!!!!

[SusiePMcD]

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I hope this works.... this is supposed to be a picture of all of us at the sentencing. You can see Pinkypoo the best.

Ok it didn't work, I think her post is #10 the day of the sentencing. I'll check again.

I don't SEE anything...maybe l'll go to that post number...and see if I can see it...I remember reading and seeing a photo last night...but not knowing who was who...something about sitting behind someone in brown with glasses? that rings a beell now...darn...I'm sleepy.

[wi_twin_mom]

I missed it then...pooey! Guess I need to go hunt for it!!!!!

I found it it's in the sentencing afternoon thread post #10. We are sitting a row behind the jury. Pinkypoo has glasses, I'm behind the lady juror in brown.

[SusiePMcD]

I found it it's in the sentencing afternoon thread post #10. We are sitting a row behind the jury. Pinkypoo has glasses, I'm behind the lady juror in brown.


See...I remembered...brown and glasses...but I think I was watching video on youtube and it was too fast.

I'm gonna hit the hay...this gal is dead dog tired! Thanks for the post..l'll peek in the morning...after my coffee!! goodnight friend.:basic45:

[wi_twin_mom]

See...I remembered...brown and glasses...but I think I was watching video on youtube and it was too fast.

I'm gonna hit the hay...this gal is dead dog tired! Thanks for the post..l'll peek in the morning...after my coffee!! goodnight friend.:basic45:

Good night, I'm heading off to bed too!

[Orchid Corsage]

So sorry I couldn't be here when 20/20 played, because I was too entranced to log on. 20/20 did a great job, for the show being only an hour. Doncha think?

Jambois was terrific! I loved the scene where he was listening to MJ's tapes from jail, while he was putting in some baseboard LOL and his new cup! LOL

Jams was also so great in the way he talked MJ into his taking the computer--oh for insurance LOL MJ not too smart! Not as smart as he thinks!

Also how about the earlier pics of KLB! Actually she looked pretty good a long time ago. I think the past 9+ years have changed her, just just a bit! Unless she dumbed down for the court proceedings. Definetly she was heavier and homely in court, appeared rather old-fashioned the school marmy type! I guess living with MJ and his troubles took its toll on her.

How about MJ reading Julie's letter! If that had been shown before, I missed it. I sat there thinking, WHY WHY WHY is he not pciking it up? Anyone else have that reaction? Reminded me of someone thinking they were going to be bit by a cobra or worse! SHOCK! lol Oh Yeah! I guess he was frozen to the core! LOL And all gussied up in his suit too and trying to get away with murder!!!! NOT! lol Wonder what his BP was at that time? :basic44:

The Voyts were great too, along with Mr. Klugs review.

Julie would be proud, her brothers were there for her. That part was so sad, it breaks my heart. They waited for so long but were ready to charge on! I forget which brother, but they he letter from Julie was ruled in on one of the brother's birthdays! What a gift! (sorry didn't take notes, as I was so glued, I can't think of anything else right now) Then the phone rang!

I know Kellabeck will give a great review, waiting tap tap tap tap :) I read where she was going to watch and post tomorrow! :yes2:

[Bernie]

Yes we saw that part of the interview....2 3/4 hrs........:howdy:

[Orchid Corsage]

Yes we saw that part of the interview....2 3/4 hrs........:howdy:

Oh yeah, I remember part of it Bernie, but I do tend to forget things:z0tdntknw:! LOL Well, I sure enjoyed it again! :)

[annalyzer]

So sorry I couldn't be here when 20/20 played, because I was too entranced to log on. 20/20 did a great job, for the show being only an hour. Doncha think?

Jambois was terrific! I loved the scene where he was listening to MJ's tapes from jail, while he was putting in some baseboard LOL and his new cup! LOL

Jams was also so great in the way he talked MJ into his taking the computer--oh for insurance LOL MJ not too smart! Not as smart as he thinks!

Also how about the earlier pics of KLB! Actually she looked pretty good a long time ago. I think the past 9+ years have changed her, just just a bit! Unless she dumbed down for the court proceedings. Definetly she was heavier and homely in court, appeared rather old-fashioned the school marmy type! I guess living with MJ and his troubles took its toll on her.

How about MJ reading Julie's letter! If that had been shown before, I missed it. I sat there thinking, WHY WHY WHY is he not pciking it up? Anyone else have that reaction? Reminded me of someone thinking they were going to be bit by a cobra or worse! SHOCK! lol Oh Yeah! I guess he was frozen to the core! LOL And all gussied up in his suit too and trying to get away with murder!!!! NOT! lol Wonder what his BP was at that time? :basic44:

The Voyts were great too, along with Mr. Klugs review.

Julie would be proud, her brothers were there for her. That part was so sad, it breaks my heart. They waited for so long but were ready to charge on! I forget which brother, but they he letter from Julie was ruled in on one of the brother's birthdays! What a gift! (sorry didn't take notes, as I was so glued, I can't think of anything else right now) Then the phone rang!

I know Kellabeck will give a great review, waiting tap tap tap tap :) I read where she was going to watch and post tomorrow! :yes2:

Excellent thoughts Orchid. I liked when the snitch said that poor little Marky was being picked on in jail. Can you imagine what he'll have to go through in prison after the inmates found out about his obsessions with penis'? LOL

[johnielee333]

Yes, I thought everyone knew. I admitted that the day after the verdict.

i didnt know Ed Klug was your brother either. let me tell you that i believed him when he said mark told him those things. i also do not hold it against him for not saying anything about it to the DA or Police. i can understand how some people might not want to get involved for one reason or another. i am glad tho that the pro's had him.

[johnielee333]

How about the plot to kidnap my brother? Did anyone here this, I didn't.

me neither & i wonder why . i wish they would of shown more of the evidence against him but of course they would of needed a much longer show.

[kellabeck]

SNIP
I know Kellabeck will give a great review, waiting tap tap tap tap :) I read where she was going to watch and post tomorrow! :yes2:

Thanks for the morning laugh, OC!!

I fell asleep last night and God bless my DVR, not a problem and able to watch again from the beginning....My impression is that they did a very good job, especially at behind the scenes stuff, which I crave, and considering the short time they have. But it's like a tray of hors d'oeurves (sp?), isn't it?

WE know so much more having watched the trial. Still it was terrific.

My favorite part was watching Bob Jambois adding trim to his room while listening to audio tapes of Mark's phone calls from jail.

Dan Jensen says about him he's the "smartest rat in the sewer." And he has a cup that declares that. He's proud of that! I loved him for it!

Unfortunately I have to get ready for my weekly Sat. morning walk in Central Park with Macaroon and some friends and their dogs. So I will sign off until later. I took notes!! I will be back.

[bigkitty]

Good morning everybody!:happy0207:

I watched the 20/20 show last night. Thought it was good, but you and I know that they had to leave ALOT of stuff out to keep it to one hour long.

WI TWIN MOM -- Ed did good. Tell him him from Bigkitty!

:girl_haha::girl_haha: "Smartest Rat in the Sewer" -- Mr. Jambois is my hero. I want to get a t-shirt with a picture of him and his cup. He made me laugh so much at his reaction to MJ and dear old dad's nastiness.

Angie almost made me fall off my chair when she dropped the F-bomb. Didn't expect it from her.:D

MJ - what can I say -- the more I saw of him the creepier he seems to me.:71526: I'm so glad he's off the street. I think he is a very, very dangerous person.

KJ - she definitely uglied up for her testimony. The engagement picture showed what she really looks like. The glasses are probably a prop to make her look less like the sex-crazed marriage wrecker than she is. I LOVED the way the cameras stalked her. I hope they walked on the back of her heels as they got that footage.:eyebrow1qb::mad:

:attention: QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EAGLE EYES:

Does anyone know if David was there at the forfeiture hearing? I saw him get up and hug MJ when MJ's bail was raised and he wound up being sent to jail. Does anyone know if this was separate from the testimony during the forfeiture? If he was there during the forfeiture hearing, then nothing that was brought up during the trial re how his father and kelly were behaving and how MJ was treating his mother was a surprise to him. I wonder if he did hear all of it, what he thinks about all of this.

[Topaz]

did a good job. They seem to have been involved for a long time, did
interviews in the past, etc. So the show was fairly complete.
(Not like the Melanie McGuire show which was awful).

I also got a kick out of the sewer rat comment, and loved Mr. Jambois'
new coffee mug! LOL

This show went a long way in portraying Julie as she was--kind and devoted, so it counterbalanced the smear attempt by the defense.

Also they really chose the most creepy pictures of Mark. Showing him as the scary dude that he really is!

All in all it was a good job. TV can never approach the detail of a trial, but this one was better than most, IMO.

[johnielee333]

quote:

Originally posted by moewinkle


Albee should have a sex change and call himself " Miss Trial". [/*]

__________________________________________________ ______

brought this post above from over yonder. thought it was funny ! :67302:

[kellabeck]

Home from muddy, rainy (at first) Central Park --- with half of its dirt on Macaroon! His jacket, his raincoat and his body all needed a bath!

Things jumped out at me from last night's broadcast.

Jambois noticed her arm position right away. He had no grounds, though, for a search warrant, so he told MJ how sorry he was for his loss and GAVE HIM A HUG and asked for consent to seize the computer. I loved that. Ole Marky is prolly thinking how slick he is and how he has it all made in the shade.

The book club. Nice to see them together.

Clips of Dr Spiro make him seem credible, not destroyed on cross as we know he was. Drs. Long, Mainland and Rumack don't even make a cameo.

Jay Schadler says that "the photo" of the "own drug supply" list was with Julie's letter and that is not true. They had to leave out how the jury put them side by side.

So much had to be left out!!

Ellis, the PI, says that Julie believed Mark was "capable" of being the porn stalker....That was new to me (but b/c of RL I had to miss parts of the testimony so maybe this came up in court.)

Marky all smiles in his orange Tshirt. Looking super smug like the canary-swallowing cat. Like one of the 6000 who get away with murder every year. Makes you want to smack him upside the head.

The engagement photo of Kelly and Mark!!! I had suspected that she drabbed down for court, but wow!!



The high-five with Dad....If you never believed his parents knew before, don't you know it now?

Ed Klug was a surprise witness last summer?? Marky must've about died when he saw him come in the room!

Mark was locked up on Paul Griffin's birthday. And now Mark is sentenced the day after Julie's.

I love watching Mark reading the letter.

We got to see Mark's cell. It's cozy, ain't it?

And there was Aaron Dillard looking better the farther he gets from a cell. I hope he turns his life around.

Margaret Wojt says that Julie told her "Mark would kill me first before he would divorce me."

That was new to me. Did I just miss it in testimony?

The porn pics are staged and not accurate from what we know them to be.

And the 20/20 audience doesn't hear about the 2800 penis pix.

I wish this show had been 3 or 4 hours and they could have done this case better, although it's so complex even that would have left a lot out.

[kellabeck]

:francis:

This smiley is called "Francis" and I have never known why.

Then I noticed last night a bit of KLB-MJ emailing: (ewwww!)
"put the boy scout away Francis"


What is up with that?????????

[kellabeck]

Also ABC was there a lot. I never noticed him before but you can see Jay Schadler sitting in the back of the Elkhorn courtroom.

How great was it seeing Marky led away last summer??

[kellabeck]

Kelly Renee LaBonte 1226 40th Ave. and Mark Daniel Jense, 1226 40th Ave, have announced their engagement and set May 5 for their wedding. Their parents are Don and Kay Jantz, Al burquerque, NM and Diel and Florence Jensen, 8?700 Lakeshore Drive, Pleasant Prairie.

The future bride graduated from Ridorado HS, Albuquerque and the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque. She is employed by Southport Bank.

Her fiance graduated from Tremper HS and the Univerity of Wisconsin, Oshkosh. He is employed by Stifel Nicholas, Racine.

----------------
transcribed off the screen


Kelly LaBonte's parents are Don and Kay JANTZ??

Kelly Renee Jantz LaBonte Grieman Jensen??

[DeeJay]

I think 20/20 should have done 2 hours on this case. It warranted at
least 2 hours.

They did interview Dillard. Wonder what the jury thought
about that....since none of the 12 believed Dillard? I did & do!

Dillard testified to the murder using descriptions that would
NOT have been in any of MJ's files in the cell.

[bambam]

20/20 did a very good job! It showed everyone in a pretty good light , well, except MJ!!

http://th216.photobucket.com/albums/cc93/ashfaqur_rahman/th_Crying_smiley.gif

i didn't have tv, and i missed it!!!!!!!!!!! waaaaaaaaa!!!!!! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[kellabeck]

Yes, as I watched Dillard I found him believable. I am still surprised that the jury didn't believe the smothering wasn't proved BARD.

I do. And the physical evidence that supports that really wasn't discussed last night.

bambam, you can come over here and watch it.

[kellabeck]

transcribed off the screen

the timeline on display in the Jambois/Gabrielle office:

December 3rd 1998
6:30 am
Julie Jensen
is unable to get out of bed.

December 3rd 1998
7:40 am
The Jensen's computer is used
to search for niformation on
"ethylene glycol poisoning."

There are A LOT of these on a big wall chart but they are too distant to read.

[DeeJay]

Yes, as I watched Dillard I found him believable. I am still surprised that the jury didn't believe the smothering wasn't proved BARD.

I do. And the physical evidence that supports that really wasn't discussed last night.

bambam, you can come over here and watch it.


In order to NOT BELIEVE Dillard, one has to ask how could he have
possibly splained all those details he testified to?

"Wasn't dying fast enough."

"Rolled her over and sat on her."

Those 2 details could NOT have been in MJ's case files.

Those details had to have been TOLD to Dillard by no one
but the murderer.

Therefore, Kella, you, me, the pros and Dillard know them to be
TRUE.

Yet not ONE JUROR thought about this!!?? :duh: :francis:

[bambam]

where can i watch it???? is it online somewhere???

[twinkiesmom]

I hate Dr. Borman. I feel he let Julie down.

He really needs to be reported to the medical board...And Ambien needs to be a controlled substance (if it's not already). In the Shawna Nelson case, Ambien came in too...part of the alleged plot was to put Shawna's husband to sleep during the killing.

[kellabeck]

Judge Schroeder has a little white stuffed animal behind his bench? It is prominent in the footage of EK's testimony at the forfeiture hearing.

[DeeJay]

Judge Schroeder has a little white stuffed animal behind his bench? It is prominent in the footage of EK's testimony at the forfeiture hearing.

I noticed that, too. It looks like lamb. :love0085:

[kellabeck]

I was thinking monkey.

[kellabeck]

What does everyone think is the most important evidence that 20/20 didn't show?

*How the physical evidence, the ribcage bruising, lined up so perfectly with Aaron Dillard's info about what Mark said, proving that MJ smothered Julie.

*How David begged Daddy to call an ambulance and how Mark lied about going to work and left the boys in the car when he went into the house to "find" Julie's body.

*How Mark's computer was stuffed with 2800 penis pix arranged by size and that the porn stalking was all about penises and size.

[kellabeck]

when they read the verdict in the courtroom. I smirk whne they read the verdict. You can barly make me out.

You smirked? I cheered. But I wasn't in the courtroom.

Tee hee!!

[kellabeck]

We have spoken often about denial and its power.

I am watching DATELINE from last night covering a case utterly new to me: Gordon Weaver's estranged wife Jean dies with a huge gash on her head and her body and the basement around it set on fire.

Gordon was arrested and released on bond. His mother's car is found many miles away with blood inside. His mother sends out a Christmas card with the message that Jean "fell and died in a fire" and that Gordon has disappeared and they don't know if he is alive.

Anyone with a brain saw that Gordon killed Jean and staged his own disappearance. But not Mommy and Daddy.

[kellabeck]

Turns out his parents knew where he was hiding all along and they helped him.

ETA: His elderly parents were charged with aiding him. (Boy, that's an exception!!!) Charges v. the father were dropped b/c of med. condition and mother had to do community service.

Gordon Weaver was convicted of unintentional homicide but that was overturned and he remains in custody awaiting a new trial.

The family in Oregon which took him as "David Carson" in, remains splintered because of him.

What a despicable, toxic POS.

[RayStar]

He really needs to be reported to the medical board...And Ambien needs to be a controlled substance (if it's not already). In the Shawna Nelson case, Ambien came in too...part of the alleged plot was to put Shawna's husband to sleep during the killing.I have not kept up with the Nelson trial. I guess the jury is deliberating that case. Being Julie was his patient for 4 years and I'm assuming this is not a very large town, Dr. Borman just from his notes of a day earlier should have insisted that Julie be re-examined! I can't see his practice being so large he could not have gone the extra step. He noted how different Julie was acting, this should have sent off an alarm. OK perhaps he did have a large practice back then. I think after this case if he were my doctor, I might be shopping around for a new one. He is probably a good doctor with old- fashioned bedside manners.
Dr. Denton was blindsided.

[Orchid Corsage]

Excellent thoughts Orchid. I liked when the snitch said that poor little Marky was being picked on in jail. Can you imagine what he'll have to go through in prison after the inmates found out about his obsessions with penis'? LOL

Good Afternoon Anna, :) I was up all night and missed the morning!:shock:

Thank you! Yeah and 5000+ wasn't it? YIKES! Gives his future friends opportunity for some really neat nicknames and MORE! LOL And I thought most guys were into breasts! :s1gyahoo: Leaves a lot to the imagination, doesn't it? :thud2: So often there are visuals in these trials which my memory doesn't need. What a pitiful legacy MJ leaves for his children all the way around!

[Orchid Corsage]

Home from muddy, rainy (at first) Central Park --- with half of its dirt on Macaroon! His jacket, his raincoat and his body all needed a bath!

Things jumped out at me from last night's broadcast.

Jambois noticed her arm position right away. He had no grounds, though, for a search warrant, so he told MJ how sorry he was for his loss and GAVE HIM A HUG and asked for consent to seize the computer. I loved that. Ole Marky is prolly thinking how slick he is and how he has it all made in the shade.

The book club. Nice to see them together.

Clips of Dr Spiro make him seem credible, not destroyed on cross as we know he was. Drs. Long, Mainland and Rumack don't even make a cameo.

Jay Schadler says that "the photo" of the "own drug supply" list was with Julie's letter and that is not true. They had to leave out how the jury put them side by side.

So much had to be left out!!

Ellis, the PI, says that Julie believed Mark was "capable" of being the porn stalker....That was new to me (but b/c of RL I had to miss parts of the testimony so maybe this came up in court.)

Marky all smiles in his orange Tshirt. Looking super smug like the canary-swallowing cat. Like one of the 6000 who get away with murder every year. Makes you want to smack him upside the head.

The engagement photo of Kelly and Mark!!! I had suspected that she drabbed down for court, but wow!!



The high-five with Dad....If you never believed his parents knew before, don't you know it now?

Ed Klug was a surprise witness last summer?? Marky must've about died when he saw him come in the room!

Mark was locked up on Paul Griffin's birthday. And now Mark is sentenced the day after Julie's.

I love watching Mark reading the letter.

We got to see Mark's cell. It's cozy, ain't it?

And there was Aaron Dillard looking better the farther he gets from a cell. I hope he turns his life around.

Margaret Wojt says that Julie told her "Mark would kill me first before he would divorce me."

That was new to me. Did I just miss it in testimony?

The porn pics are staged and not accurate from what we know them to be.

And the 20/20 audience doesn't hear about the 2800 penis pix.

I wish this show had been 3 or 4 hours and they could have done this case better, although it's so complex even that would have left a lot out.

See you DID do Good! :happy0207: And more to reread I see!

Kella, Laughter is Good eh LOL I enjoy your posts as they are always very informative, cause I sure miss a lot sometimes and also forget. RL too dang! You and Kindee have carried me through this trial! I don't have DSL, still waiting for V! Some days I could get the feed and somedays not! It was very frustrating!

Ah a walk in the park sounds nice, poor Macaroon, but now all cleaned up and warm. Lots of snow here dangit! Not bad if there wasn't so much ice under it.

Jams had it all over on MJ, LOL just picturing the hug and all Mark must have thought, "home free"! LOL No wonder his work computer fried HA!

It was a shame they didn't give the jury their credit due for putting the list and the letter together! It was an AMAZING moment for me! KUDOS to the Jury!

I thought it was portrayed Julie thought the porn stalker was PT, which really made me feel so sad for him as he said he would have done anything to help Julie. I missed too, about Julie thinking it could have been MJ. Maybe they were wrong, as they were about the letter.

You did fill in some for me tho! :) I needed to take notes, sure would help my memory!

Well seems 20/20 rushed this presentation. I am hoping someone will write a book, and hopefully all the facts will be right on spot!

:happy0207:

[DeeJay]

Until 20/20's show last night,
I did not know Jambois viewed Julie's body while
it was still in the house.

Yeah, that bit of info was a total surprise to me.

First time I saw the photo of Julie in the bed, the
arm under her, caught my eye first. No one in
a concious state, or just sleeping, could
sleep like that.

It fits perfectly with Dillard's testimony. Julie was on
her back, MJ "rolled her over and sat on her."

Funnily enough, the position of her limbs didnt dawn
on MJ or he would have done a better job in the
"staging" process.

[bambam]

Until 20/20's show last night,
I did not know Jambois viewed Julie's body while
it was still in the house.

Yeah, that bit of info was a total surprise to me.

First time I saw the photo of Julie in the bed, the
arm under her, caught my eye first. No one in
a concious state, or just sleeping, could
sleep like that.

It fits perfectly with Dillard's testimony. Julie was on
her back, MJ "rolled her over and sat on her."

Funnily enough, the position of her limbs didnt dawn
on MJ or he would have done a better job in the
"staging" process.

man dee, i wish i could have seen it!! aarrrgghh!!! i was just checking out the abyss..... yes, well, nothing much was happening here lol---- my loyalty is STILL here, believe me!!! but... one of the jensen jurors is posting over there right now. pretty interesting.

[mitch]

i just got through watching last nights 20/20. i think they did a good job for an hour show.

the one thing new that i saw was a the hearing when mj's bail was set up to 1.2 mil and he is hand cuffed in the court room. i put the recorder on slow mo and went frame by frame of the quick hug that David gives mj. David pats his fathers back three times and then rubs it up and down two. it looks like a parent comforting a child, not the other way around. then he pulls back and puts his two hands together down close to his belt line and picks at his fingernails and hangs his head.

well i am off to do yard work that i have been putting off for about a month.

[bambam]

i just got through watching last nights 20/20. i think they did a good job for an hour show.

the one thing new that i saw was a the hearing when mj's bail was set up to 1.2 mil and he is hand cuffed in the court room. i put the recorder on slow mo and went frame by frame of the quick hug that David gives mj. David pats his fathers back three times and then rubs it up and down two. it looks like a parent comforting a child, not the other way around. then he pulls back and puts his two hands together down close to his belt line and picks at his fingernails and hangs his head.

well i am off to do yard work that i have been putting off for about a month.

:0012:mitch! you lucky dog, you! i am now sooooo jealous of ppl with access to TV!!! thanks for reminding about yard work--- i'm going out right now with my chainsaw to hack down some trees!!!! :francis:

[Topaz]

I could have passed on showing her corpse so many times. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

This borders on sleaze. Even though the show was basically good for a TV thing.

[kellabeck]

man dee, i wish i could have seen it!! aarrrgghh!!! i was just checking out the abyss..... yes, well, nothing much was happening here lol---- my loyalty is STILL here, believe me!!! but... one of the jensen jurors is posting over there right now. pretty interesting.

Are you sure it's a real juror and how do you know? And can you PM me the hat so I can check out this person's posts? Please? Don't want to spend too much time in the abyss.

[bambam]

Are you sure it's a real juror and how do you know? And can you PM me the hat so I can check out this person's posts? Please? Don't want to spend too much time in the abyss.

pm sent your way

[mitch]

pm sent your way


bam i went over and checked out the poster "Juror" to bad she decided to post on that board. they are so rude over there.

and Pinky Poo IMO is very aggressive and down right rude to the poster.

[Pinkypoo]

bam i went over and checked out the poster "Juror" to bad she decided to post on that board. they are so rude over there.

and Pinky Poo IMO is very aggressive and down right a bully.

sorry PP but man you don't really have the right to tell somebody they are not of right mind or what a jurior can or can't say on a public MB. the defence can't do chit about what a jurior says after the fact unless he/she post that they did research or talked about the case. PP you crossed the line.

Funny, you say I have no right to tell someone what they can and can't say....but didn't you just do the EXACT same thing here?
Why is OK for you and not me?

Oh well....you don't have to like me. I think I'll get by. ;)

[Pinkypoo]

I could have passed on showing her corpse so many times. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

This borders on sleaze. Even though the show was basically good for a TV thing.


I agree. I avoided seeing Julie in the courtroom pics and video. It's just to much for me to see.

[mitch]

Funny, you say I have no right to tell someone what they can and can't say....but didn't you just do the EXACT same thing here?
Why is OK for you and not me?

Oh well....you don't have to like me. I think I'll get by. ;)


PP it has nothing to do with liking you or not.

i just think maybe you are somewhat over involved and interjecting yourself into the case.

listen what a jurior says after the verdict is not grounds for appeal unless the jurior talks about jurior misconduct. which that poster has not. to judge her/him about what their spirtitual beliefs about their decesssed mother is and further say that albee could use it for a new trail well to me is just not right.

JMO and i truly mean no offense to you.

[Pinkypoo]

PP it has nothing to do with liking you or not.

i just think maybe you are somewhat over involved and interjecting yourself into the case.

listen what a jurior says after the verdict is not grounds for appeal unless the jurior talks about jurior misconduct. which that poster has not. to judge her/him about what their spirtitual beliefs about their decesssed mother is and further say that albee could use it for a new trail well to me is just not right.

JMO and i truly mean no offense to you.

She said nothing about her spirtitual beliefs that I saw. I did not accuse her of misconduct. I do think Albee will use anything he can to further his case for appeal....weather it will work or not is another story.

[Orchid Corsage]

Until 20/20's show last night,
I did not know Jambois viewed Julie's body while
it was still in the house.

Yeah, that bit of info was a total surprise to me.

First time I saw the photo of Julie in the bed, the
arm under her, caught my eye first. No one in
a concious state, or just sleeping, could
sleep like that.

It fits perfectly with Dillard's testimony. Julie was on
her back, MJ "rolled her over and sat on her."

Funnily enough, the position of her limbs didnt dawn
on MJ or he would have done a better job in the
"staging" process.

DeeJay, I remember hearing Jams was the the J home, but didn't realize Julie's body was still there. At the time, I thought, well gee he was on the ball. Guess he was REALLY on the ball! :howdy:

I believed DIllard! As for the jury, just my opinion, that they didn't want to be connected with giving a verdict based on a dirty jailbird. Clearly they didn't want any connection with Dillard and wanted to appear very righteous. I said it before and I'll say it again, Dillard's testimony had to have been in the back of their minds. I loved this jury tho! Remember Jambois saying "Mark likes to talk"? :0012:Mr.Klug and Dillard:0012:


Off to the store before the snow comes :)
Picturing MJ having his boloney sandwich today! :lex_10: Thinking, dang it! :lex_10:

[bambam]

i don't about where you all are.... but here it http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc132/spaydschlear/feelslikespring.jpg and i'm LOVIN' it!!!! wooooohooooo!!!!!

[chambord]

I can't believe as much as I was looking forward to seeing this program, I fell asleep 10 minutes into it. Thanks everyone for your coverage. I was amazed that Jambois was present the very evening at the scene, and was able to see Mark up close and personal so soon after her death. It must have been chilling for him, I bet Jambois got vibes right away. Seasoned prosecutors do have an incredible intuitive.

[Baranis]

Why do people ask for,'wait for the jury to decide', tho in the past have supported the evidence of guilt. Then later post MJ is not guilty by reason of appeal? Have they lost faith in the jury system?
Even the possibility of a new trial and JJ letter is not allowed, I am convinced that if a new trial does go forward, the jury will still convict MJ.
Remember Sprio's testimony/opinion was based on JJ letter.[jury did not rely on experts]
Borman, family doctor, gave MJ abmien that were found in JJ body. JJ never asked for such meds and my opinion did not really know why the paxil was given.
JJ expressed her doubts about MJ to others, before the letter was given to LE by the Wojts'.
No one proved that JJ was delusional or psychotic and on the verge of suicide.
If a new trial is granted, let it go forward. It will still be the same outcome.
IMO

[kellabeck]

I agree that in the remote chance that MJ got a retrial without the letter, that he would still be convicted because
1) Julie's statements to the Wojts and to Mrs DeFazio would still come in
2) the internet searches would too and they are the smoking gun\
3) the porn stalking
4) his behavior
would all still come in. I think the photos she turned over to the police would also as they are physical evidence.

But I am thinking that his appeal is going to be denied. I hope so.

[Pinkypoo]

I agree that in the remote chance that MJ got a retrial without the letter, that he would still be convicted because
1) Julie's statements to the Wojts and to Mrs DeFazio would still come in
2) the internet searches would too and they are the smoking gun\
3) the porn stalking
4) his behavior
would all still come in. I think the photos she turned over to the police would also as they are physical evidence.

But I am thinking that his appeal is going to be denied. I hope so.

I think it's all going to rest on the California case. Jambois already has said if the letter gets tossed on appeal he will again come back as a special pro and do it again. He has told the Griffen brothers he would go after Mark again. This has been his case since day one, he will never give up if Mark is a granted an appeal.

[DeeJay]

DeeJay, I remember hearing Jams was the the J home, but didn't realize Julie's body was still there. At the time, I thought, well gee he was on the ball. Guess he was REALLY on the ball! :howdy:

I believed DIllard! As for the jury, just my opinion, that they didn't want to be connected with giving a verdict based on a dirty jailbird. Clearly they didn't want any connection with Dillard and wanted to appear very righteous. I said it before and I'll say it again, Dillard's testimony had to have been in the back of their minds. I loved this jury tho! Remember Jambois saying "Mark likes to talk"? :0012:Mr.Klug and Dillard:0012:


Off to the store before the snow comes :)
Picturing MJ having his boloney sandwich today! :lex_10: Thinking, dang it! :lex_10:

I, too, knew Jambois was at the house that night but
didn't know until 20/20, Jambois had seen Julie's body
still in the bed.

Jambois was remiss by not telling the jury (about jailhouse snitches);

"Sometimes we have go to hell,
to put the devil in jail."

[Cat]

Ed Klug gave an interview on one of our local channels tonight. He apparently moved since then, because he's now in the Fox Cities area. Unfortunately, it's not online. He is giving public support to the local battered women's shelter.

[Baranis]

The 20/20 was NOT anything new that we had already seen during the live stream of the trial.
Nothing like the Ed Bradley 60 minutes about the Duke Rape Hoax.

After hearing the jurors speaking that the JJ letter was the road map and applied the photo of the sticky note was very important. I feel that without the letter, the photo of the sticky note is far more relevant that supports JJ suspicion of her husband.

[RayStar]

The 20/20 was NOT anything new that we had already seen during the live stream of the trial.
Nothing like the Ed Bradley 60 minutes about the Duke Rape Hoax.

After hearing the jurors speaking that the JJ letter was the road map and applied the photo of the sticky note was very important. I feel that without the letter, the photo of the sticky note is far more relevant that supports JJ suspicion of her husband.

We had not heard of "The smartest rat in the sewer" before. I hadn't. LOL:)

[RayStar]

:0012:mitch! you lucky dog, you! i am now sooooo jealous of ppl with access to TV!!! thanks for reminding about yard work--- i'm going out right now with my chainsaw to hack down some trees!!!! :francis:

And you want Spring to arrive. LOL I do too. I am sick of winter. I listened to you. Like James Brown said "I'm Back". LOL

[RayStar]

The 20/20 was NOT anything new that we had already seen during the live stream of the trial.
Nothing like the Ed Bradley 60 minutes about the Duke Rape Hoax.

After hearing the jurors speaking that the JJ letter was the road map and applied the photo of the sticky note was very important. I feel that without the letter, the photo of the sticky note is far more relevant that supports JJ suspicion of her husband.
ED was great on that interview. I wish he had done the Clarence Thomas story. CT probably would/did have rejected that interview with Mr. Ed Bradley. I doubt it would have been so nice. I like Steve Croft but Ed would have had Thomas right where he belongs!!! I feel EB looked down and smirked when this interview aired. :)

[bambam]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj95/ladyerisa666/good_night_2.gifpeeps!!!! wow, it IS like a playground here! i love it! hasta manana!

[Pinkypoo]

http://www.popham.org.uk/flint/bambam.jpg
Bam bam, I think this should be your avatar! :girl_haha:

[kellabeck]

I beg to differ, Baranis. I listed a number of new things to me in my posts.

[kellabeck]

I encourage you to visit a new thread I have created in the CONVICTED section: Other Killers -- Evil Among Us.

I have posted about two convicted killers along with links to more info and I am hoping you will add the stories by posting others along with links.

This would give posters a starting point if they are curious about a particular case and search on the name, these would come up.

I find the cases via books and via tv shows.

[vintage_rose]

There is a new post by Kelly's step-mom on the www.oursisterjulie.com site under the memorials section. She relays more information about David. She also posted her email address.

[bambam]

http://www.popham.org.uk/flint/bambam.jpg
Bam bam, I think this should be your avatar! :girl_haha:

pinky, i've got that one in my collection! i'm sure i'll use it one day.... i change just about every other day! :girl_haha:

[DeeJay]

:67302: I found these interesting..

Video titles on youtube....from Albee's remarks in CA.
[Don't believe I'd used those.] :faintTHUD:

2/18 - #17 - Julie died pointing her finger at her husband
[You betcha & she was right!] :hifive:

2/18 - #20 - Julie Jensen was spying on her husband!
[Yep! Julie had GOOD REASON to "spy" on MJ]:girl_haha:

[twinkiesmom]

There is a new post by Kelly's step-mom on the www.oursisterjulie.com site under the memorials section. She relays more information about David. She also posted her email address.

The only post I saw was the one about Douglas making an affirmation of faith...which gives strong comfort considering the influences in his life.

[twinkiesmom]

Dr. Denton was blindsided.

Dr. Denton's patients are cadavers...Dr. Borman continues to see the living. That is why I am concerned about Dr. Borman.

[wi_twin_mom]

Ed Klug gave an interview on one of our local channels tonight. He apparently moved since then, because he's now in the Fox Cities area. Unfortunately, it's not online. He is giving public support to the local battered women's shelter.

Hi Cat,
He has always lived in the same town. He built a new home about 8 yrs. ago. He is trying to get ABC to send a check to the women's shelter. He's also trying to get Stiefl Nicolas to donate. He also wants to donate.