POST Sentencing of Mark Jensen

[DeeJay]

Here we go, folks! New thread! Right here!! :howdy:

[kellabeck]

am sad but not surprised that young David was having nightmares. He remembers the last time he saw his Mommy. Daddy propped her up so that he and Douglas could kiss her. And he begged Daddy to call an ambulance for her and Daddy said no. And soon she was dead. Children often blame themselves. Perhaps he felt guilt for not having saved her.
And then whatever was being heaped on them from the abundant toxix supply that was his killer-dad and his moll he'd moved in right away to take over the spot that was his Mommy's.
And then he's being told Mommy killed herself (prolly his fault too) and Daddy's being blamed and that's Mommy's fault. And that Mommy is here. Here's Mommy in the short dark hair. Julie was his "birth mother."

No wonder the poor kid had nightmares.

[Frankie Bones]

Brought over from the old thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyndawitha"y
Hi everyone..long time no read..LOL..glad to see everyone continuing here..There are certainly a nasty handful of baiters over the hill..but there are alot of good honest debaters too. Anyway, I have a pic in my photo collection and don't know how to insert to replace my avatar..I asked on the othere thread here..but so far no directions...I really hope to learn how to do that?!
LMS
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(posted by FrankieBones)
I hear you, Lynda. I've had it with the trolls over there. They are making it impossible to carry on any kind of discussion. Tubes is the worst right now. She'll be banned in no time and then it'll be nicer over there. Welll, a bit nicer.
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[DeeJay]

am sad but not surprised that young David was having nightmares. He remembers the last time he saw his Mommy. Daddy propped her up so that he and Douglas could kiss her. And he begged Daddy to call an ambulance for her and Daddy said no. And soon she was dead. Children often blame themselves. Perhaps he felt guilt for not having saved her.
And then whatever was being heaped on them from the abundant toxix supply that was his killer-dad and his moll he'd moved in right away to take over the spot that was his Mommy's.
And then he's being told Mommy killed herself (prolly his fault too) and Daddy's being blamed and that's Mommy's fault. And that Mommy is here. Here's Mommy in the short dark hair. Julie was his "birth mother."

No wonder the poor kid had nightmares.


The way MJ was moving right along immediately after
Julie died had to have turned the boy's lives upside
down.

Bringing in the "baby sitter," putting Julie's belongings
out for the rubbish collector.

Removing any and all traces of Julie had to have been
unsettling for David & Douglas.

I just wonder if MJ didn't also remove all photos of
Julie in the home as well.

I shall never believe David & Douglas penned that
letter to the court. It would have been convicing
had David taken the stand and stated his feelings,
and not read:INhouseReading04: from a previous
written statement. I don't know if WI courts require
written statements or not.

[DeeJay]

Brought over from the old thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyndawitha"y
Hi everyone..long time no read..LOL..glad to see everyone continuing here..There are certainly a nasty handful of baiters over the hill..but there are alot of good honest debaters too. Anyway, I have a pic in my photo collection and don't know how to insert to replace my avatar..I asked on the othere thread here..but so far no directions...I really hope to learn how to do that?!
LMS
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(posted by FrankieBones)
I hear you, Lynda. I've had it with the trolls over there. They are making it impossible to carry on any kind of discussion. Tubes is the worst right now. She'll be banned in no time and then it'll be nicer over there. Welll, a bit nicer.
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That place will give you cooties....:71526:

I stay away from there. :francis:

[bambam]

:howdy: howdy folks!

i've been staying away from "there" myself lately. i went over "there" the other night, and that tubes person almost made me lose it! but alas.... i kept my cool! lol that place makes me :francis:

[J Juror]

That place will give you cooties....:71526:

I stay away from there. :francis:

:0012: Hi Everyone!! Can I go back and read the old thread still. I have to catch up

[DeeJay]

:0012: Hi Everyone!! Can I go back and read the old thread still. I have to catch up

Oh sure, you can go back and read any thread.

[Bernie]

Hello all.......its a nice day here in WI....:howdy:

[dojewo]

Hello all.......its a nice day here in WI....:howdy:
Hello all, it's a good day but on a sad note Brett Favre retired. I hope he will enjoy his family now and do all the things he wants to.

[Bayou Lass]

Hello all, it's a good day but on a sad note Brett Favre retired. I hope he will enjoy his family now and do all the things he wants to.

You guys really love that old southern boy don't ya? Personally, I think he is/was an awsome quaterback. Hate to see him go because I loved to watch him after he made a great play or threw a touchdown.

[J Juror]

Hello all, it's a good day but on a sad note Brett Favre retired. I hope he will enjoy his family now and do all the things he wants to.

I hope the best for him. My Sister out of state will be so disappointed. She is such a huge #4 fan. I have the sun shine through the patio door & I feel like a cat absorbing it. OK And being here with you all. Warm and Fuzzy!!

[Bayou Lass]

I hope the best for him. My Sister out of state will be so disappointed. She is such a huge #4 fan. I have the sun shine through the patio door & I feel like a cat absorbing it. OK And being here with you all. Warm and Fuzzy!!

You make us feel warm and fuzzy with your great posts regarding this trial. Welcome JJ and thanks!!

[Bernie]

Hello all, it's a good day but on a sad note Brett Favre retired. I hope he will enjoy his family now and do all the things he wants to.

I liked watching Farve but........Im a Vikings fan..........sorry.....:howdy:

[Bayou Lass]

Question for you JJ - do you think that Kelly was involved in any way with this? I think she knew what was going on and perhaps played a part in the demise of Julie. I was puzzled about the immunity thingy and just keep playing this in my head. She sure didn't have any qualms about moving into Julie's and Mark's house right after her death and 'sleeping in the bed where Julie died'. Just purely morbid and evil if you ask me.

[jcc]

Good afternoon!

I was on vacation for the last week... so... I missed the sentencing. Last night I watched most of the youtube clips (thank you!) so I feel I was able to see most of it. I still haven't read through the threads of the days to get all of your comments. I had set my DVR to record TruTV those days, but it failed... so I missed whatever the talking heads had to say about it. Did they cover it much on TruTv?

On the youtube clips, I heard Julie's four brothers speak, the letter from the "boys", Mr. Jambois, Mr. Albee, and the Judge discussing the dying declaration and the actual sentencing. That covers it, right?

I agree with those who question the authenticity of the boys letter (I wonder who penned it, or who set the talking points), but I don't doubt the boys deeply love their father. What I hope, however, is that they do some day read the court transcript... hear all the evidence... because they should know the truth. I wish Mark was just man enough to be truthful to his boys... that would be a true act of love rather than an act of cover up, denial and deceit.

I also missed the 20/20 program. I found a link that had an article about it, but haven't seen any of the actual video. Does it exist somewhere? I should check my cable quide to see if 20/20 is among the On Demand shows offered.

I did send a card and note to the Griffin family via the P.O. Box listed on their website, but it was returned as not a deliverable address, unable to forward :(. So, if anyone knows of a Griffin address accepting mail, could you please send it to me via private message? I thought it would be hard to find a condolence card appropriate for being nine years late... but I found the simply perfect one. Honoring your loss, wishing you peace~

So... now I guess I will take a browse through days of missed posts....

[Bayou Lass]

Great post JCC!

[bambam]

Good afternoon!


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I also missed the 20/20 program. I found a link that had an article about, but haven't seen any of the actual video. Does it exist somewhere? I should check my cable quide to see if 20/20 is among the On Demand shows offered.



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jcc, i posted a link to an excerpt from 20/20 at the end of the last thread. i missed it too! grrr! it is short, but it shows the wojts and julie's bros discussing her letter.

[gramvof14]

Hello everyone I wondered where you all were, I took a look at the other place and they are pretty boring all they seem to do is argue.:happy0207:

[jcc]

:0012: Hi Everyone!! Can I go back and read the old thread still. I have to catch up


Hi J Juror! I've been on vacation for the last week... so, were you actually one of the jurors?

Here is a thread were some of us discussed what we thought to be the strengths and weaknesses of the prosecution and defense. Perhaps you've already read this one, but in case not:
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2502

And I have a question for you..

... do you know... did the toxicology report show any nicotine in Julie's system? Was it tested for? In any case, I think MJ probably was collecting the nicotrol as part of his arsenal of poisons. Not sure if he used it. I didn't start thinking that until after Dr. Denton said how toxic nicotine was, as well as another member here (Topaz). http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=114092#post114092

[jcc]

Hello everyone I wondered where you all were, I took a look at the other place and they are pretty boring all they seem to do is argue.:happy0207:

How is your daughter doing? Any news?

[bambam]

Hello everyone I wondered where you all were, I took a look at the other place and they are pretty boring all they seem to do is argue.:happy0207:

:0012:hey gram! hope you are well today. have you made any more pies?? wish i had a piece of that chocolate cream pie you made yesterday!!! yyuuuummmm!!! that was it, wasn't it? chocolate cream? mmmmm just saying "chocolate cream" makes me :francis: mmmm!!!

[Bayou Lass]

Hello everyone I wondered where you all were, I took a look at the other place and they are pretty boring all they seem to do is argue.:happy0207:

Gram, you know better than to go over to that other place - it's not a good place - it's discouraging to even look over there. I have only browsed over there a couple of time and I prefer it here with all of you loverly posters. Don't we get along so well? Even if someone has a different opinion than ours, there is reasoning and acceptance of one's view and NO arguing. :hifive:

[bigkitty]

Question for you JJ - do you think that Kelly was involved in any way with this? I think she knew what was going on and perhaps played a part in the demise of Julie. I was puzzled about the immunity thingy and just keep playing this in my head. She sure didn't have any qualms about moving into Julie's and Mark's house right after her death and 'sleeping in the bed where Julie died'. Just purely morbid and evil if you ask me.

Hi Bayou Lass!:)

I totally agree with you on all points you brought up.:zm10:

[bigkitty]

Hello everyone I wondered where you all were, I took a look at the other place and they are pretty boring all they seem to do is argue.:happy0207:

Hi Gram!:happy0207:

[bigkitty]

Good afternoon!

I was on vacation for the last week... so... I missed the sentencing. Last night I watched most of the youtube clips (thank you!) so I feel I was able to see most of it. I still haven't read through the threads of the days to get all of your comments. I had set my DVR to record TruTV those days, but it failed... so I missed whatever the talking heads had to say about it. Did they cover it much on TruTv?

On the youtube clips, I heard Julie's four brothers speak, the letter from the "boys", Mr. Jambois, Mr. Albee, and the Judge discussing the dying declaration and the actual sentencing. That covers it, right?

I agree with those who question the authenticity of the boys letter (I wonder who penned it, or who set the talking points), but I don't doubt the boys deeply love their father. What I hope, however, is that they do some day read the court transcript... hear all the evidence... because they should know the truth. I wish Mark was just man enough to be truthful to his boys... that would be a true act of love rather than an act of cover up, denial and deceit.

I also missed the 20/20 program. I found a link that had an article about it, but haven't seen any of the actual video. Does it exist somewhere? I should check my cable quide to see if 20/20 is among the On Demand shows offered.

I did send a card and note to the Griffin family via the P.O. Box listed on their website, but it was returned as not a deliverable address, unable to forward :(. So, if anyone knows of a Griffin address accepting mail, could you please send it to me via private message? I thought it would be hard to find a condolence card appropriate for being nine years late... but I found the simply perfect one. Honoring your loss, wishing you peace~

So... now I guess I will take a browse through days of missed posts....

Hi JCC!:0012:

[bigkitty]

:0012:hey gram! hope you are well today. have you made any more pies?? wish i had a piece of that chocolate cream pie you made yesterday!!! yyuuuummmm!!! that was it, wasn't it? chocolate cream? mmmmm just saying "chocolate cream" makes me :francis: mmmm!!!


OMG Gram! You made "chocolate cream" and didn't bring some here for us!:1187603408.CR.Mothe That's my favorite!:girl_haha:

[jcc]

:0012: It is great to 'see' you all again!

[bambam]

OMG Gram! You made "chocolate cream" and didn't bring some here for us!:1187603408.CR.Mothe That's my favorite!:girl_haha:

wouldn't it be devine!!!!! hey gram, i'll dance for ya if you send me some pie!!! http://th40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/brownylover182/background%20things/icons/th_pucca.gif

how's that?? :67302:

[bigkitty]

wouldn't it be devine!!!!! hey gram, i'll dance for ya if you send me some pie!!! http://th40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/brownylover182/background%20things/icons/th_pucca.gif

how's that?? :67302:


Me Too!:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::D

[bambam]

Me Too!:s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::D

we're http://th38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/xXxgodsmackXfreakxXx/People/th_163241gx4d30k486.gif CRAZY!!

ya know it????? :basic44:

[bigkitty]

I am so grateful for this place. You allow us to be human ... to laugh, to cry, to express ourselves and to talk about these things that matter so much to us. It's so nice to be able to be a human being and not have to worry about the board being shut down over being one.

For you Harlett......:1222423::1222423::1222423:

[bigkitty]

we're http://th38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/xXxgodsmackXfreakxXx/People/th_163241gx4d30k486.gif CRAZY!!

ya know it????? :basic44:


The GOOD kind!:D

[Bayou Lass]

I am so grateful for this place. You allow us to be human ... to laugh, to cry, to express ourselves and to talk about these things that matter so much to us. It's so nice to be able to be a human being and not have to worry about the board being shut down over being one.

For you Harlett......:1222423::1222423::1222423:

Ditto for me too.

[bambam]

me too, bk, very grateful!!! as we have no trial to occupy us right now, we have a tendency to kinda go off the deep end.... well, i do anyway!! so... i guess maybe i should step away from the puter for a while, til i gain back a lil sanity.... maybe??? but i know my friends are here for me........ http://th176.photobucket.com/albums/w195/GR_GIN/th_th62r56ja.gif

ain't that just sweet? lol see y'all a little later!

[twinkiesmom]

Question for you JJ - do you think that Kelly was involved in any way with this? I think she knew what was going on and perhaps played a part in the demise of Julie. I was puzzled about the immunity thingy and just keep playing this in my head. She sure didn't have any qualms about moving into Julie's and Mark's house right after her death and 'sleeping in the bed where Julie died'. Just purely morbid and evil if you ask me.

I'm not JJ but I can't get over that email that Mark wrote Kelly questioning whether she was ready to take him and the boys on....Back in the 90's a divorced father would normally get every other weekend, so I can't seen Kelly as really taking on a whole family herself...That statement (in my opinion) points to Julie's being out of the picture entirely...and we heard nothing about a divorce lawyer being hired. JMHO.

[bigkitty]

I'm not JJ but I can't get over that email that Mark wrote Kelly questioning whether she was ready to take him and the boys on....Back in the 90's a divorced father would normally get every other weekend, so I can't seen Kelly as really taking on a whole family herself...That statement (in my opinion) points to Julie's being out of the picture entirely...and we heard nothing about a divorce lawyer being hired. JMHO.


I think KJ was up to her eyeballs in the plot to dispose of Julie.:girl_sad:

[shortcake]

Hey all!
Wondering what everyone is doing today and if anyone found a new trial. I've stayed off here all day, til now. WOW! I saw something posted yesterday about there being some other pictures, one with Douglas in it. It sounded like Kelli's stepmom was the one who posted the pics, but I have no idea where. Can someone point me in the direction?

Purrrrty Pleeze! :flirt99:

[Pinkypoo]

I liked watching Farve but........Im a Vikings fan..........sorry.....:howdy:

I may be a true cheesehead.....but....GO BEARS! :girl_haha:

[Bayou Lass]

I'm not JJ but I can't get over that email that Mark wrote Kelly questioning whether she was ready to take him and the boys on....Back in the 90's a divorced father would normally get every other weekend, so I can't seen Kelly as really taking on a whole family herself...That statement (in my opinion) points to Julie's being out of the picture entirely...and we heard nothing about a divorce lawyer being hired. JMHO.

WOW!! I forgot about the email sent to her. That's it in a nutshell for me - she's guilty too in some way. Would just love to see her get what's coming to her. I hope those boys wake up and smell the coffee and get to the truth of this matter and realize that they have been duped for these many years. My heart just goes out to them. :1222423::1222423:

[Pinkypoo]

I think KJ was up to her eyeballs in the plot to dispose of Julie.:girl_sad:

yep I agree 100%. I can see any way that she didn't know what was going on. Honest to god, I wonder how some people ever close thier eyes at night. :z0tdntknw:

[Bayou Lass]

I may be a true cheesehead.....but....GO BEARS! :girl_haha:

Are you cheddar or swiss? JK I live in Louisiana and I gotta go for the Saints, Cowboys, Colts, Giants, Bears, Packers and.........all the others that I don't have time to mention. Just an old football loving fool. I do have to really back the Saints ('aints) because of where I live and they are really trying hard to win a few games.

[jcc]

jcc, i posted a link to an excerpt from 20/20 at the end of the last thread. i missed it too! grrr! it is short, but it shows the wojts and julie's bros discussing her letter.

Thanks! I watched a couple of short clips of the show. Boo Hoo! I want to see the whole show. I had no idea it would be aired so soon... I would have set to record.

[J Juror]

Question for you JJ - do you think that Kelly was involved in any way with this? I think she knew what was going on and perhaps played a part in the demise of Julie. I was puzzled about the immunity thingy and just keep playing this in my head. She sure didn't have any qualms about moving into Julie's and Mark's house right after her death and 'sleeping in the bed where Julie died'. Just purely morbid and evil if you ask me.

I think she is just as selfish of a person as MJ. I find it really hard to beleave she knew nothing of what happened to Julie. I had read or someone told me that Kelly did not know Julie died. How is that possable?? Word of Julie's death spread like wildfire and she worked at the head office? Mark wanted her to attend Julie's wake and funeral. Way too strange any way you look at it. What, when and how she knew we can only guess.
I do know the police went to her job to talk to her. It was then she had learned Mark was arrested. It was a Oh by the way did you know type thing.
And she had no reaction.

[bambam]

I think hse is just as selfish of a person as MJ. I find it really hard to beleave she knew nothing of what happened to Julie. I had read or someone told me that Kelly did not know Julie died. How is that possable?? Word of Julie's death spread like wildfire and she worked at the head office? Mark wanted her to attend Julie's wake and funeral. Way too strange any way you look at it. What, when and how she knew we can only guess.
I do know the police went to her job to talk to her. It was then she had learned Mark was arrested. It was a Oh by the way did you know type thing.
And she had no reaction.


wow. no reaction, huh? hmm. it's prolly cause the only thought she was having then was "it's done." wow. skeery people! :a1chic:

[johnielee333]

:howdy: Howdy partner's ! :s1gyahoo:

[bambam]

:howdy: Howdy partner's ! :s1gyahoo:

:0012:hey johnnielee! not a whole lot happening here today! i've been wandering in and out as i am stuck at home with no car today.....:girl_sad:

how ya doin?

[johnielee333]

:0012:hey johnnielee! not a whole lot happening here today! i've been wandering in and out as i am stuck at home with no car today.....:girl_sad:

how ya doin?

hi bambam, i'm doing good. just going back & forth from here to yonder ! :D
i love your avatar ! i love all your avatar's !

[bambam]

hi bambam, i'm doing good. just going back & forth from here to yonder ! :D
i love your avatar ! i love all your avatar's !

hey i am so bored today, i am here, there, and everywhere! :francis:

[johnielee333]

hey i am so bored today, i am here, there, and everywhere! :francis:

I see you in two places at one time:basic45::s1gyahoo: !

[shortcake]

I'll only ask once more, in case no one saw my last post, but can someone point me to the direction of the Debi Labonte posts/site where she had pics. I saw something about it on here yesterday, but didn't find where the discussion started. I don't mean to be a pest so don't go researching for me, just post the site if you already know. TIA

WE NEED A TRIAL!!

[johnielee333]

I think she is just as selfish of a person as MJ. I find it really hard to beleave she knew nothing of what happened to Julie. I had read or someone told me that Kelly did not know Julie died. How is that possable?? Word of Julie's death spread like wildfire and she worked at the head office? Mark wanted her to attend Julie's wake and funeral. Way too strange any way you look at it. What, when and how she knew we can only guess.
I do know the police went to her job to talk to her. It was then she had learned Mark was arrested. It was a Oh by the way did you know type thing.
And she had no reaction.

yep i agree ! hi :happy0207: J Juror

[shortcake]

hey i am so bored today, i am here, there, and everywhere! :francis:Hi ya Bam!

Oh I've actually got some paperwork accomplished today that I've been putting off tackling (insurance junk). Hubby will be so proud!

But I still want a trial! AND I WANT IT NOW! lol

[johnielee333]

I'll only ask once more, in case no one saw my last post, but can someone point me to the direction of the Debi Labonte posts/site where she had pics. I saw something about it on here yesterday, but didn't find where the discussion started. I don't mean to be a pest so don't go researching for me, just post the site if you already know. TIA

WE NEED A TRIAL!!

go to - http://dobi.celebration-of.com/ this is kellys step mother's site. click on photo album & then click on where it says go to photo album where it says main photo album click on arrow & in the bring down window click on edwards photo album. thats where the boys picture are at.

[bambam]

I'll only ask once more, in case no one saw my last post, but can someone point me to the direction of the Debi Labonte posts/site where she had pics. I saw something about it on here yesterday, but didn't find where the discussion started. I don't mean to be a pest so don't go researching for me, just post the site if you already know. TIA

WE NEED A TRIAL!!

:0012:hey shorty! i do remember seeing the pic. but i can't remember where..... you should last nite's thread. i think maybe it was there. sorry!!

[bambam]

go to - http://dobi.celebration-of.com/ this is kellys step mother's site. click on photo album & then click on where it says go to photo album where it says main photo album click on arrow & in the bring down window click on edwards photo album. thats where the boys picture are at.

oh thanks johnnie! you found it for her!!! dang you're soooo sweet! for you: :1222423:

[johnielee333]

oh thanks johnnie! you found it for her!!! dang you're soooo sweet! for you: :1222423:

You're welcome ! and thanks for saying i'm so sweet ! :) i try to always be sweet but my partner would say i need to maybe try alittle harder sometimes. :D

[bambam]

You're welcome ! and thanks for saying i'm so sweet ! :) i try to always be sweet but my partner would say i need to maybe try alittle harder sometimes. :D

ummmm..... so would mine!! :basic45:

[johnielee333]

so where is everyone today ? wow both places are kind of empty today.

[johnielee333]

thats ok tho i need to catch up on reading all of the post's anyway.

[shortcake]

go to - http://dobi.celebration-of.com/ this is kellys step mother's site. click on photo album & then click on where it says go to photo album where it says main photo album click on arrow & in the bring down window click on edwards photo album. thats where the boys picture are at.

Thank you so much! Looking at those pics (took me a while to find them on the site), I guess we were wrong about Kelly dressing down for court. I'm thinking the life of lies just took a toll on her over time. By that I mean, I felt she looked very attractive in her engagement announcement picture, but in those pics and in her appearance at court, she looked very plain. And the poor boys. I hate seeing them with her. Poor Julie, prepared a ready-made family for Kelly and Mark. Oh I hope those boys soon realize the wonderful men the Griffin bros. are and that they will soon open the lines of communication.

[bambam]

so where is everyone today ? wow both places are kind of empty today.

yep. only us losers with no life are here. :girl_sad:




:kidding-01::kidding-01:!!!!!!!!!! i don't know where everyone is.... i know i'm STUCK in the house with NO car, and that's ALL i know!!! lol :z0tdntknw:

[johnielee333]

Thank you so much! Looking at those pics (took me a while to find them on the site), I guess we were wrong about Kelly dressing down for court. I'm thinking the life of lies just took a toll on her over time. By that I mean, I felt she looked very attractive in her engagement announcement picture, but in those pics and in her appearance at court, she looked very plain. And the poor boys. I hate seeing them with her. Poor Julie, prepared a ready-made family for Kelly and Mark. Oh I hope those boys soon realize the wonderful men the Griffin bros. are and that they will soon open the lines of communication.

yes i agree. did you see how sad douglas looked in those pic's ? those poor boys & it makes me so sad. i hope & pray that they come to realize that julie loved them & didnt take herself away from them. i too hope they go to their uncles.

[bambam]

Thank you so much! Looking at those pics (took me a while to find them on the site), I guess we were wrong about Kelly dressing down for court. I'm thinking the life of lies just took a toll on her over time. By that I mean, I felt she looked very attractive in her engagement announcement picture, but in those pics and in her appearance at court, she looked very plain. And the poor boys. I hate seeing them with her. Poor Julie, prepared a ready-made family for Kelly and Mark. Oh I hope those boys soon realize the wonderful men the Griffin bros. are and that they will soon open the lines of communication.



just think how those boys' lives would have been soooooo much more enriched had they known their uncles, julie's brothers. it's sooooooo sad. they missed out on sooooooo much. so much. it's heartbreaking. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[johnielee333]

yep. only us losers with no life are here. :girl_sad:




:kidding-01::kidding-01:!!!!!!!!!! i don't know where everyone is.... i know i'm STUCK in the house with NO car, and that's ALL i know!!! lol :z0tdntknw:

i love reading what ya'll have to say about this trial here & the other place. sometime tho i get angry over at the other place. how can people not see that mark killed julie ? i just dont get it.

[J Juror]

i love reading what ya'll have to say about this trial here & the other place. sometime tho i get angry over at the other place. how can people not see that mark killed julie ? i just dont get it.

:basic44::basic44: I'm Here:basic44::basic44:Happy to be here HELLO!!!

[bambam]

i love reading what ya'll have to say about this trial here & the other place. sometime tho i get angry over at the other place. how can people not see that mark killed julie ? i just dont get it.

it's an enigma, johnnielee!! it truly is!! they are exasperating!!! they will just say stuff like "it didn't happen. period." "she committed suicide. period." they NEVER back it up!!!!! it's crazy!!!!!!! :francis:

[wi_twin_mom]

yes i agree. did you see how sad douglas looked in those pic's ? those poor boys & it makes me so sad. i hope & pray that they come to realize that julie loved them & didnt take herself away from them. i too hope they go to their uncles.

Good afternoon! (to whoever is here!!!) Not much action today, darn! I didn't want to do any housework! Oh well, it might be a good day to catch up.

I'm still looking for a full copy, on-line, of 20/20. I was hoping that SLSmith would be able to get it on YouTube. I know if anyone is interested, you can by a dvd at ABC.com.

johnielee, I hope you are right! But without some good therapy I don't think they will ever know the truth. How sad.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[johnielee333]

:basic44::basic44: I'm Here:basic44::basic44:Happy to be here HELLO!!!


i seen you over yonder ! hi :0012: J Juror

[bambam]

:basic44::basic44: I'm Here:basic44::basic44:Happy to be here HELLO!!!

:0012:hey j!!! good to see you! tell me something, if you will, please. there was no real evidence of perry porn stalking julie, was there?

[wi_twin_mom]

Wow, hi everyone! I spoke to soon! There are ppl here!!!! Now I don't have to clean!!!

[johnielee333]

it's an enigma, johnnielee!! it truly is!! they are exasperating!!! they will just say stuff like "it didn't happen. period." "she committed suicide. period." they NEVER back it up!!!!! it's crazy!!!!!!! :francis:


thats because they dont have anything to back it up. i cant believe people would rather let a killing out on the streets to do it again. who know's who would of been next.

[johnielee333]

Wow, hi everyone! I spoke to soon! There are ppl here!!!! Now I don't have to clean!!!


:happy0207::s1gyahoo::basic45:

[johnielee333]

:0012:hey j!!! good to see you! tell me something, if you will, please. there was no real evidence of perry porn stalking julie, was there?

nope they had nothin to show that perry did it. thats because he didnt do it.
mark did it & i believe in my heart that marks dad helped him. how sick !

[bambam]

thats because they dont have anything to back it up. i cant believe people would rather let a killing out on the streets to do it again. who know's who would of been next.

some of them (ex: justice dawg) are so caught up in "people who are innocent being wrongly convicted" that is what JD does for a living, or so she says... and i understand... i certainly don't want innocent ppl to go to prison...(WM3 is a really good example of that right now!)
but i think they totally lose sight of the other end of that spectrum... and that's allowing murderers to go free to murder again!!!! they need to get over the tunnel vision!

[wi_twin_mom]

http://abcnewsstore.go.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DSIProductDisplay?catalogId=11002&storeId=20051&productId=2016904&langId=-1&categoryId=100013

I think this is the link to ABC's site. You can order the 20/20 dvd for $29.95.

[johnielee333]

some of them (ex: justice dawg) are so caught up in "people who are innocent being wrongly convicted" that is what JD does for a living, or so she says... and i understand... i certainly don't want innocent ppl to go to prison...(WM3 is a really good example of that right now!)
but i think they totally lose sight of the other end of that spectrum... and that's allowing murderers to go free to murder again!!!! they need to get over the tunnel vision!

yeah & i understand & i'm thankful that we have people fighting for the innocent but they really do need to understand that there is alot of real guilty people too. i think they think everyone who is in prison are innocent.

[J Juror]

:0012:hey j!!! good to see you! tell me something, if you will, please. there was no real evidence of perry porn stalking julie, was there?

None whatsoever! If you want I can explain the whole thing. Just let me know

[Alibar]

thats because they dont have anything to back it up. i cant believe people would rather let a killing out on the streets to do it again. who know's who would of been next.


I think some of them don't even know what being able to support their statement means. In so many ways, many think if they believe something that's all that's needed. IMO, just because we live in a free country doesn't mean we need to say whatever springs into our heads. :basic45:

[Bernie]

None whatsoever! If you want I can explain the whole thing. Just let me know

Please do........:howdy:

[J Juror]

I think some of them don't even know what being able to support their statement means. In so many ways, many think if they believe something that's all that's needed. IMO, just because we live in a free country doesn't mean we need to say whatever springs into our heads. :basic45:

Hey MJ thought the same way. He said a lot of stuff to people and because he said it --- therefor it is true. I don't know how many times I asked for their list of stuff and got nothing back. Go take a look. I don't know who started it--but they are talking closing the thread. Would that be because of me????

[twinkiesmom]

I think she is just as selfish of a person as MJ. I find it really hard to beleave she knew nothing of what happened to Julie. I had read or someone told me that Kelly did not know Julie died. How is that possable?? Word of Julie's death spread like wildfire and she worked at the head office? Mark wanted her to attend Julie's wake and funeral. Way too strange any way you look at it. What, when and how she knew we can only guess.
I do know the police went to her job to talk to her. It was then she had learned Mark was arrested. It was a Oh by the way did you know type thing.
And she had no reaction.

The only thing I'm confused about what you're saying is Julie died in 98, and Mark wasn't arrested until 2002. By 2002, she had to know it was coming. Once they discovered the antifreeze it was only a matter of time before he was arrested, letter or no letter.

It takes a really cold person to lay in bed beside someone night after night whose wife died under such mysterious circumstances (much less in the same bed where she died). Since we know the senior Jensens were in the know (high fives), it's really impossible to believe Kelly didn't know anything. It's just too convenient...The boy scout was presented to her with a bow around it....no one gets out of a marriage with kids that easily.

[bambam]

Hey MJ thought the same way. He said a lot of stuff to people and because he said it --- therefor it is true. I don't know how many times I asked for their list of stuff and got nothing back. Go take a look. I don't know who started it--but they are talking closing the thread. Would that be because of me????

hey seems you being given a "pop quiz" over "there" about the pizza that y'all didn't want from a certain place. geeezz it never ever ends, does it??? :rolleye0001:

[wi_twin_mom]

Hey MJ thought the same way. He said a lot of stuff to people and because he said it --- therefor it is true. I don't know how many times I asked for their list of stuff and got nothing back. Go take a look. I don't know who started it--but they are talking closing the thread. Would that be because of me????

Who knows why CW closes a thread. I was over there for about 3 wks and never understood why she closed a thread. To me the only way a thread should be closed is... If lies are being told & bashing other posters. If CW would reign in the ones who are making trouble and acting like children, she would have a place where you could acually discuss topics!!!

Oh, BTW hi J Juror!!!

[jcc]

go to - http://dobi.celebration-of.com/ this is kellys step mother's site. click on photo album & then click on where it says go to photo album where it says main photo album click on arrow & in the bring down window click on edwards photo album. thats where the boys picture are at.

Thank you for posting the link. I had missed it also.Douglas looks so lost in all these photos.
:(

[johnielee333]

Hey MJ thought the same way. He said a lot of stuff to people and because he said it --- therefor it is true. I don't know how many times I asked for their list of stuff and got nothing back. Go take a look. I don't know who started it--but they are talking closing the thread. Would that be because of me????

no its because when things dont go their way they get like that.

[jcc]

Good afternoon! (to whoever is here!!!) Not much action today, darn! I didn't want to do any housework! Oh well, it might be a good day to catch up.

I'm still looking for a full copy, on-line, of 20/20. I was hoping that SLSmith would be able to get it on YouTube. I know if anyone is interested, you can by a dvd at ABC.com.

johnielee, I hope you are right! But without some good therapy I don't think they will ever know the truth. How sad.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

I'll have to go check how much the DVD is. I'm really bummed I missed it. Thanks.

[jcc]

http://abcnewsstore.go.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DSIProductDisplay?catalogId=11002&storeId=20051&productId=2016904&langId=-1&categoryId=100013

I think this is the link to ABC's site. You can order the 20/20 dvd for $29.95.

Thanks for this! Not sure if I want to pop for it, but I might. Do you know... do they ever show reruns?

[bambam]

geeez i'm too poor to pop for a $29.95 dvd of 20/20!! lol there must be an easier way!!!! ok, who recorded it??? send those of us who missed it copies, ok??? lol

[Alibar]

+Tubesfun started that thread and posted that it had become nothing but bashing; therefore she was asking CW to close it. I cracked up since tubesfan is a primary basher.

[wi_twin_mom]

geeez i'm too poor to pop for a $29.95 dvd of 20/20!! lol there must be an easier way!!!! ok, who recorded it??? send those of us who missed it copies, ok??? lol

I recorded it on VHS. I don't think there is a way to get it on the computer. I also have early tesimony from the trial, before Reality Can Be Evil started. I was watching it on Sat. If someone knows how it can be done... :z0tdntknw: I would buy the dvd if they expanded it with out takes. They interviewed my brother for an hour but only showed about a min. or two.

[Cat]

Are you cheddar or swiss? JK I live in Louisiana and I gotta go for the Saints, Cowboys, Colts, Giants, Bears, Packers and.........all the others that I don't have time to mention. Just an old football loving fool. I do have to really back the Saints ('aints) because of where I live and they are really trying hard to win a few games.


Hi, Bayou Lass. Your mentioning the Saints really brings back memories for me. We lived in La Crosse, WI, where the Saints had their training camp way back when. My husband and I had a Dixieland band, and we were hired to welcome the Saints. It was about a 100 degrees that day. My all-in-one almost melted to my skin. :girl_haha: Haven't thought of that in years.

[johnielee333]

Thank you for posting the link. I had missed it also.Douglas looks so lost in all these photos.
:(


you're welcome & yes he does. poor kid.:(

[J Juror]

Please do........:howdy:

David was not yet a year old. Julie felt Mark did not love her since David was born. Julie worked at a place in Illinois with Perry. They were "work friends". Perry was going through a divorce and he took Julie along to meet his Attny..
So at this point Julie was looking into divorce. Later on Mark went out of town and Julie invited Perry over for the weekend. Perry spent Fri.& Sat. nights and left Sun.. The following week Julie just did not return to her job. She did not notify anyone that she quit. As Perry said she never returned. He had no idea why. How Mark learned about Julie's affair we don't know. We do know Julie did tell him she wanted a divorce and he responded with "If you go through with it,I will see to it you will never see David ever again". So as we know Julie never went through with it. Maybe at this point she came clean to Mark about her affair. Within a month of Julie's affair with Perry, Perry was transferred to one of the Carolina's. All of a sudden the photos and harrassing phone calls started. Mark convincing Julie it was Perry doing it. Yet Julie never called her former job to talk to Perry till years later. Way later on the Jensen's hired a PI to figure out who was doing it. The police had put a trace on the Jensen's home phone three times. Each time--Julie because of her affair did not want to keep anything from Mark and so she told him whenever the trace was put onto their phone. The last time the police begged Julie not to tell him and she did. Of course during those times there were no phone calls received and no pictures found. Years later Perry hears through the office grapevine that he is under investigation and what for. So he wrote Julie a letter a nice letter. Two days after he mailed it the police called him. Perry told the police that he had no contact with Julie at all. He never called her and he never went back to her home and he had the upmost respect for Julie. However Perry did not tell the police that he just mailed a letter to her to her brothers home. So now Julie's sister in law receives the letter in her mailbox and she called Julie to come over. So Julie goes there and now she explains her affair to them. They didn't know about it at all. Now remember Mark has been leaving the picures around and all that. So Julie calls the police over and gives them the letter from Perry "See it is him".
So the police mail Perry a ticket for harrassment. Perry never paid it. The Kenosha DA's "took care of it and made it go away"
So thats it in a nutshell. I need a drink. I'll be right back.

[bambam]

Hi, Bayou Lass. Your mentioning the Saints really brings back memories for me. We lived in La Crosse, WI, where the Saints had their training camp way back when. My husband and I had a Dixieland band, and we were hired to welcome the Saints. It was about a 100 degrees that day. My all-in-one almost melted to my skin. :girl_haha: Haven't thought of that in years.

:0012:hey cat! long time no see! where ya been? i too, am a saints fan!! heck when ya live on the gulf coast, it's mandatory!!! lol that's so cool that y'all played and sang for the saints!!! wooohooo!!! :hifive:

[Cat]

:0012:hey cat! long time no see! where ya been? i too, am a saints fan!! heck when ya live on the gulf coast, it's mandatory!!! lol that's so cool that y'all played and sang for the saints!!! wooohooo!!! :hifive:

I checked in last night, bambam, and posted a little, welcoming new members here. Good to see you. Did you ever get your tv working again?

[bambam]

I checked in last night, bambam, and posted a little, welcoming new members here. Good to see you. Did you ever get your tv working again?

noooo but i got some rabbit ears!!! lol so i get ONE channel that's clear!! the satellite ppl are supposed to come out by tomorrow to scope my "tree" situation, they said i didn't have to be home for that. so i don't know if they came today or not. i don't think so tho. hmmmm.. let's just say i'm still workin on a solution!! :duh:

[Cat]

Bambam, why did you disconnect your cable? We have cable and have NEVER had any problems with it. I always see people with satellite saying it doesn't work when there are storms or lots of rain, so I'm really sceptical of satellite service.

[bambam]

Bambam, why did you disconnect your cable? We have cable and have NEVER had any problems with it. I always see people with satellite saying it doesn't work when there are storms or lots of rain, so I'm really sceptical of satellite service.

well the cable just crapped out one day!! and then when i called them, i felt like i was getting the run around... so i started calling about satellite. i may have screwed up!!! i prolly coulda had my cable fixed by now if they hadn't made me so irate that day!!!!!!! grrrrr!!!!

[wi_twin_mom]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

[Cat]

well the cable just crapped out one day!! and then when i called them, i felt like i was getting the run around... so i started calling about satellite. i may have screwed up!!! i prolly coulda had my cable fixed by now if they hadn't made me so irate that day!!!!!!! grrrrr!!!!

Yes, you probably could, but we all know hindsight is 20/20. I try never to make any decisions in anger. That's when I generally have messed up. Our cable company has a comittment to get to your house on time, or it is free. I really like that. They've always been good.

[Cat]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

That's a thought, twin mom, repulsive as it is to some of us. There are also those that just stick to not guilty on principle (their principle, whatever that is founded on). :0009:

[wi_twin_mom]

That's a thought, twin mom, repulsive as it is to some of us. There are also those that just stick to not guilty on principle (their principle, whatever that is founded on). :0009:

I wonder how Kelly is going to deal with all the LOVE letters that he will be getting?

[bambam]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

yep, i think so!! cos they are dang sure BLIND!!! and they act they are in LOVE!! i think you got it WTM!!:girl_haha:

[bambam]

I wonder how Kelly is going to deal with all the LOVE letters that he will be getting?

wonder how MJ's gonna deal with all the "boy scouts" that he KNOWS kelly will be checking out???? :girl_haha:

[Alibar]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

I mentioned to someone over there maybe they would strike up a correspondence with MJ, telling him how much she believed in him, etc... Oh, course, I only got a snotty response. IIRC.

[twinkiesmom]

Question for locals,
Does anyone know if the Asian teenaged girl with the Caucasian dark haired mom at trial on the day of the verdict is the same little girl seen playing with David and Douglas in the family photos (and on 20/20)...She appears to be David's age or a few years younger.

[johnielee333]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

justice is blind & twisted when it comes to NG's. maybe they did fall in love with him.

[wi_twin_mom]

yep, i think so!! cos they are dang sure BLIND!!! and they act they are in LOVE!! i think you got it WTM!!:girl_haha:

I knew I was right! :s1gyahoo: I don't get very many good ideas, but when I do.....:happy0158:

[bambam]

Yes, you probably could, but we all know hindsight is 20/20. I try never to make any decisions in anger. That's when I generally have messed up. Our cable company has a comittment to get to your house on time, or it is free. I really like that. They've always been good.

well cat, normally i maintain my cool very, very well. really, i do! but i had this really hateful person on the phone that day.... it was terrible! i did report them tho-apparently it did no good, as i have not had any follow-up phone calls. it was ridiculous. i know it's not like this everywhere. i have lived many places and never had such problems!

[wi_twin_mom]

I mentioned to someone over there maybe they would strike up a correspondence with MJ, telling him how much she believed in him, etc... Oh, course, I only got a snotty response. IIRC.

Of course you got a snotty response! That's the only kind they ever give out!

[Cat]

well cat, normally i maintain my cool very, very well. really, i do! but i had this really hateful person on the phone that day.... it was terrible! i did report them tho-apparently it did no good, as i have not had any follow-up phone calls. it was ridiculous. i know it's not like this everywhere. i have lived many places and never had such problems!

Sorry that happened to you. Customer service is really going to hell, isn't it? :love0085:

[wi_twin_mom]

wonder how MJ's gonna deal with all the "boy scouts" that he KNOWS kelly will be checking out???? :girl_haha:

He's not even going to give that a second thought! He's in "boy scout" heaven!!!!:67302:

[Cat]

wi twin mom, you probably missed my answer to your post the other night (about thinking your brother must have moved). I said I was sorry I made an assumption about that. About the only exercise I've gotten this winter is jumping to conclusions. :girl_haha:

[J Juror]

wonder how MJ's gonna deal with all the "boy scouts" that he KNOWS kelly will be checking out???? :girl_haha:

Well his files are in evidence now. Time to start that all over again. Kelly had no problem with that in the past. Sorry I just had to say it. No offence intended to anyone.

[Cat]

Well his files are in evidence now. Time to start that all over again. Kelly had no problem with that in the past. Sorry I just had to say it. No offence intended to anyone.

It's ok, you won't get banned here for that.

[J Juror]

Question for locals,
Does anyone know if the Asian teenaged girl with the Caucasian dark haired mom at trial on the day of the verdict is the same little girl seen playing with David and Douglas in the family photos (and on 20/20)...She appears to be David's age or a few years younger.

A cousin of the boys--Griffin side

[twinkiesmom]

A cousin of the boys--Griffin side

She looks South Korean...I take it one of the brothers adopted...My two are from Russia.

[kellabeck]

I was just over in the abyss... and this thought came to me-

I'm thinking that all those NGs are just like the ppl who fall in love with prisoners! They've fallen in love with MJ!!!! Remember love is BLIND!!!!! What does everyone think? Am I on to something here?

I have given up trying to understand the Defense Fans.

But your guess is as good as any.

[jcc]

geeez i'm too poor to pop for a $29.95 dvd of 20/20!! lol there must be an easier way!!!! ok, who recorded it??? send those of us who missed it copies, ok??? lol

Reruns? I wonder if they could tell us when they might replay it?

[J Juror]

Reruns? I wonder if they could tell us when they might replay it?

Hello:basic44:Hello:basic44:HI

[Bernie]

Hello:basic44:Hello:basic44:HI

Hello......I want to thank you for answering my post....I have to go back and catch up........:howdy:

[Cat]

JCC, I don't know how you would find out about a rerun. They never list what they are going to have in our guides. I guess maybe check their website every week. I thought I read that "48 Hours" was going to do a show on this, too, but I don't know when it will be on. I'm sure someone will post it.

[Bernie]

Bambam, why did you disconnect your cable? We have cable and have NEVER had any problems with it. I always see people with satellite saying it doesn't work when there are storms or lots of rain, so I'm really sceptical of satellite service.

My satellite never has failed me.....knock on wood.....:howdy:

[Bernie]

Question for locals,
Does anyone know if the Asian teenaged girl with the Caucasian dark haired mom at trial on the day of the verdict is the same little girl seen playing with David and Douglas in the family photos (and on 20/20)...She appears to be David's age or a few years younger.

Same girl......

[J Juror]

Hello......I want to thank you for answering my post....I have to go back and catch up........:howdy:

Here I AM

[J Juror]

JCC, I don't know how you would find out about a rerun. They never list what they are going to have in our guides. I guess maybe check their website every week. I thought I read that "48 Hours" was going to do a show on this, too, but I don't know when it will be on. I'm sure someone will post it.
I will let you know. I will email them Tuesday

[twinkiesmom]

We can keep an eye out for the 20/20 rerun...With DirectTV, you can click on the info button, and sometimes it comes up that way.

I just finished watching it on the Comcast site and was really impressed. I think they did an excellent job of editing it. They covered all the major players and the developments in the case. The segments with both Ed and Dillard were very well done. The only thing missing was really a one on one with Albee (either before or after the verdict). But I was thrilled to see Jambois with the rat mug...and they did capture some of the finer trial moments.

I was taken by the transformation in both Julie and Kelly the more years they spent with Mark. With Julie, she was always a lovely woman, but you could see the effect in her eyes of the years of terror. With Kelly, the high point was obviously before he was charged and still working as a stock broker. She sure has come down the ladder. I'm curious as to how big Kelly is...She looks like a size 14 on top and 8 on bottom.

[dojewo]

You guys really love that old southern boy don't ya? Personally, I think he is/was an awsome quaterback. Hate to see him go because I loved to watch him after he made a great play or threw a touchdown.Just got back this evening and had to post a reply, Favre was a great quarterback to watch, he will be missed. We have had Brett news on all day here in Wisconsin.

[shortcake]

Well, I'm late on this but HELLO and WELCOME to J Juror and Dobie! I'm really enjoying your input.

OMG! I'll have to be back shortly (I hope), just saw that we are under a Tornado Warning! Our viewing area is actually pretty large, so I'm hoping it's not right around here. :71526:

[dojewo]

Well, I'm late on this but HELLO and WELCOME to J Juror and Dobie! I'm really enjoying your input.

OMG! I'll have to be back shortly (I hope), just saw that we are under a Tornado Warning! Our viewing area is actually pretty large, so I'm hoping it's not right around here. :71526:
Stay safe Shortcake!

[J Juror]

Stay safe Shortcake!

We had to go to the basement of the courthouse because of tornado alert. Was not fun. Lots of records stored down there. It looked like a jail for files. Keep Safe

[Details]

Awww - they should have let you browse the records - that might have made the tornado alert fun!

Me - I always live in earthquake country - no warnings for those! Although now I'm by a few volcanos, they think they may be able to someday predict them.

[dojewo]

We had to go to the basement of the courthouse because of tornado alert. Was not fun. Lots of records stored down there. It looked like a jail for files. Keep SafeI remember that day well, they left the video on in the court room and I was hoping we wouldn't witness things flying around in there.
My daughter and SIL live in Elkhorn and he was at home that day, didn't even know they were having bad weather until his mother called to see if everything was ok.

[shortcake]

Ok, I'm back. They've downgraded us to a severe thunderstorm warning with expected 60 mph winds. Seems our worst weather will be from midnight til 4 a.m. It looks like the tornado that was spotted is a little southwest from me. Phew! Not sure if it touched down or not, I'll find out with the 10 o'clock news I guess.

[shortcake]

I remember that day well, they left the video on in the court room and I was hoping we wouldn't witness things flying around in there.
My daughter and SIL live in Elkhorn and he was at home that day, didn't even know they were having bad weather until his mother called to see if everything was ok.

Heck! I was hoping more soap opera type stuff would happen while that camera was left rolling. :shock: Now that would have been hysterical. I can't believe how long ago that was now. And I never did get any snow either. Back then I kept begging for the midwesterners to send some this way, but noooo, they kept it all for themselves pretty much. Now it's time for my kid's sports' seasons to start and ya'll send me the tornadoes. I feel the love.

[dojewo]

Ok, I'm back. They've downgraded us to a severe thunderstorm warning with expected 60 mph winds. Seems our worst weather will be from midnight til 4 a.m. It looks like the tornado that was spotted is a little southwest from me. Phew! Not sure if it touched down or not, I'll find out with the 10 o'clock news I guess.I'm glad you weren't hit with the tornado, hopefully no one else will either.

[J Juror]

Awww - they should have let you browse the records - that might have made the tornado alert fun!

Me - I always live in earthquake country - no warnings for those! Although now I'm by a few volcanos, they think they may be able to someday predict them.

Wouldn't you figure--I did ask. Not autherized. I wondered if MJ and the defence went to the jail? Nobody would say.

[J Juror]

Heck! I was hoping more soap opera type stuff would happen while that camera was left rolling. :shock: Now that would have been hysterical. I can't believe how long ago that was now. And I never did get any snow either. Back then I kept begging for the midwesterners to send some this way, but noooo, they kept it all for themselves pretty much. Now it's time for my kid's sports' seasons to start and ya'll send me the tornadoes. I feel the love.

OH BOY They would have to have a delay of the trial with the boxes and boxes of papers in the courtroom. I was convinced that this case alone had taken out a pretty good section of the rain forest.

Can the kids take up skiing???

[Pinkypoo]

Everybody went to bed early I guess....

[ccnsd]

Hi Pinky, I'm here just finishing catch up. I have a question for you. Didn't you go to the trial and you saw Kelly & David? If so, what size of clothes would you guess she wears? Somebody asked & I was curious also. btw No girlscout here :)

[Pinkypoo]

OH my gosh...I have no idea. Maybe an 8 or 10. She is not to big. Why do you ask?

[ccnsd]

To me she looked lg. sitting in the witness stand, but when 20/20 showed her walking across the parking lot, she didn't look lg., but the scene shown was from afar. Just curious...

[vintage_rose]

To me she looked lg. sitting in the witness stand, but when 20/20 showed her walking across the parking lot, she didn't look lg., but the scene shown was from afar. Just curious...

Remember though, the TV adds at least 10 pounds. When I saw Jambois and Dr. Mainland in person, I was surprised how thin they actually were.

[johnielee333]

:shock::zm10::basic45::happy0207::s1gyahoo::71541: :party52:

[kellabeck]

The solution for not missing tv shows you really want to see is to have a DVR or TiVo. That way you can program it to always catch it regardless of when it is on.

[bambam]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z124/cc2742/Good%20Morning/66.gifall!

[bambam]

where is everybody this morning?? is there a trial going on that i don't know about?? lol

[J Juror]

where is everybody this morning?? is there a trial going on that i don't know about?? lol


:mornincoffee: GOOD MORNING :basic44:

[bambam]

:mornincoffee: GOOD MORNING :basic44:

:mornincoffee: morning J! i was up way too early this morning, so i laid back down.... now i'm trying to wake up again, feeling pretty groggy. gonna go make some more coffee right now, altho it doesn't seem to really help.....:z0tdntknw:

[Frankie Bones]

where is everybody this morning?? is there a trial going on that i don't know about?? lol
I don't think there is anything going on as far as trials is concerned. I see the Jensen board -over there- is still closed.

[Frankie Bones]

:mornincoffee: GOOD MORNING :basic44:

Hi, J! Good to see you here. It sure is laid back, isn't it?

Need to go out and shovel several inches of snow/ice pellets and freezing rain. Back in a few hours.

[J Juror]

:mornincoffee: morning J! i was up way too early this morning, so i laid back down.... now i'm trying to wake up again, feeling pretty groggy. gonna go make some more coffee right now, altho it doesn't seem to really help.....:z0tdntknw:

It 20 outside here. Just took out the trash. It's an eye opener. Another sunny day

[wi_twin_mom]

:mornincoffee:Morning everyone! I got called into work today, was hoping to chat some today.:0001: Oh, well. I've got a few min. to talk if anyone is here.:0012:

[bambam]

well, there's a hearing friday relating to spector2:


Judge Larry Fidler has set a hearing for 7 March to check on Mr Plourd's caseload, while a date to determine when a trial will take place has been scheduled for 22 May.


trial not likely to happen til sept. ugh. not a real exciting hearing friday. don't know if we'll be able to watch it or not.

[J Juror]

:mornincoffee:Morning everyone! I got called into work today, was hoping to chat some today.:0001: Oh, well. I've got a few min. to talk if anyone is here.:0012:

Hi Good Morning

[kellabeck]

Looks like Phil has bought himself more months of freedom. Ugh.

[J Juror]

Looks like Phil has bought himself more months of freedom. Ugh.

Yep. I am hoping Dobi comes on today or tonight.

[bambam]

this is NOT a good day to be stuck in the house without a CAR!! we are trialLESS.....waaaaahh i just don't know what to do with myself! i'm sooooo sick of "domestic duties"!!! UGH!

[jcc]

Good Morning!

J Juror, I was catching up reading some posts that I'd missed and see that you were one of the original Guilty's. Welcome aboard. I was sold in those first days when all the computer evidence was put forth with the searches and emails, etc. It was pretty clear who the user of the computer was, and everything else just fit around it. Then there was the fact he didn't take her to the hospital, lied about going to work, and kept the kids in the car while he went into find her. There sure was a lot more the prosecutation had to add to it, but any time there was a point of contention, I just came back to that small handful of things that clearly pointed to guilt.

I have to say I was really surprised to hear that only 5 voted Guilty first time around. I'm assuming it was the five of you who were able to keep bringing forth the evidence that logically pointed to quilty.

I was a little surprised to hear the reasons given by the two who voted NG first time around.... one said it was because she sees good in people and couldn't believe anyone could do that... couldn't imagine her own husband doing it. And the other who couldn't imagine herself staying in a situation where she believed she might be in danger. Neither of those reasons had anything to do with the hard evidence in the case. They were based on their personal feelings. It is is just interesting to me how different people think... the processes they go through. There was just so much EVIDENCE pointing to Guilt.... I'm glad everyone finally saw it! Good work!

Oh... and that call from Mr. Mangi... even though it wasn't a major piece of evidence, it sure did show what kind of a mind MJ had. He was cracking sick jokes while his wife lay dying. Sick, sick man.

[J Juror]

this is NOT a good day to be stuck in the house without a CAR!! we are trialLESS.....waaaaahh i just don't know what to do with myself! i'm sooooo sick of "domestic duties"!!! UGH!

Did you get all the dust bunnies from under the bed and the cobwebs from the corners?

[bambam]

Did you get all the dust bunnies from under the bed and the cobwebs from the corners?

lol i don't even care about the dust bunnies anymore! i've got cabin fever so bad!!

anyway, i just read jcc's post, and was wondering-- you may have addressed this already... but how did the jury take the testimony of mr. mangi about the phonecall. the NG's were saying that it was not mark on the phone! lol

[gramvof14]

Goodmorning Everyone :mornincoffee:
TRUTV is showing another rerun this is the second time they have shown this drag racing one what a bore. I need a live trial.I wish some other station would start doing trials what a bummer, and yes I am addicted .:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[bambam]

Goodmorning Everyone :mornincoffee:
TRUTV is showing another rerun this is the second time they have shown this drag racing one what a bore. I need a live trial.I wish some other station would start doing trials what a bummer, and yes I am addicted .:1187603408.CR.Mothe

:0012:morning gram! yep. i think we're ALL going NUTS!! i really am since i'm stuck inside with no way to even go anywhere!!!!! i'm like :francis:

[shortcake]

:0012:morning gram! yep. i think we're ALL going NUTS!! i really am since i'm stuck inside with no way to even go anywhere!!!!! i'm like :francis:

Hey, I've got a car but no money to go anywhere. So what a pair we are, huh! Oh, I get to make the school and sports practice runs at the end of the day. But I want to do something fun! You know, like go to the courthouse and watch a live trial. But then I couldn't post to my friends and what fun would that be. Hey, I know we could go to Wausau, WI and visit an inmate. Just walk in and say "I knew you were guilty too!" and then walk out. Sounds fun to me!

YES, I'M BORED! YES, I'M ADDICTED! Actually this is therapy for me and without it I seem to get worse. Trials keep me from being cranky I think. That is until the phone rings during the trial. Haha! Oh, I'm bad.

[gramvof14]

:0012:morning gram! yep. i think we're ALL going NUTS!! i really am since i'm stuck inside with no way to even go anywhere!!!!! i'm like :francis:
Hi Bambam I know what you mean, there are hundreds of trials I am willing to pay just to watch them live.It has been pouring here and they had school delays because it was very slippery out crazy weather but I am glad it wasn't snow.But a lot of towns are on flood watch.:francis::basic44:

[J Juror]

lol i don't even care about the dust bunnies anymore! i've got cabin fever so bad!!

anyway, i just read jcc's post, and was wondering-- you may have addressed this already... but how did the jury take the testimony of mr. mangi about the phonecall. the NG's were saying that it was not mark on the phone! lol

Who else would it have been???

[bambam]

Who else would it have been???

lol that's what i said.... who was it then??? the friggin maytag repairman???? heck, mark's daddy???? that's just as bad!!!!! they are nuts over there! and i've been so bored, i've been hopping back and forth, i even started a thread there just a few minutes ago.... can you tell i'm bored outa my mind or WHAT???? :francis:

[mitch]

lol that's what i said.... who was it then??? the friggin maytag repairman???? heck, mark's daddy???? that's just as bad!!!!! they are nuts over there! and i've been so bored, i've been hopping back and forth, i even started a thread there just a few minutes ago.... can you tell i'm bored outa my mind or WHAT???? :francis:

hiya bam bam:0012:

you having live trial withdrawls?:1187603408.CR.Mothe

me too.

[bambam]

hiya bam bam:0012:

you having live trial withdrawls?:1187603408.CR.Mothe

me too.

BIG TIME!!!! :duh:

[kindee]

man I am having withdrawals. Is there nothing good live anywhere?

WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[shortcake]

So what are we gonna do? Has anyone gotten a lead on any "good" trial coming up soon?

[mitch]

Hey, I've got a car but no money to go anywhere. So what a pair we are, huh! Oh, I get to make the school and sports practice runs at the end of the day. But I want to do something fun! You know, like go to the courthouse and watch a live trial. But then I couldn't post to my friends and what fun would that be. Hey, I know we could go to Wausau, WI and visit an inmate. Just walk in and say "I knew you were guilty too!" and then walk out. Sounds fun to me!

YES, I'M BORED! YES, I'M ADDICTED! Actually this is therapy for me and without it I seem to get worse. Trials keep me from being cranky I think. That is until the phone rings during the trial. Haha! Oh, I'm bad.

i tell ya all a little confesstion.

yesterday i asked mr. mitch if jury duty was called by voter registration or drivers licence registration. i haven't been called in years.

the reason i asked is because my DL has been expired since Dec of 06. :71526:

[shortcake]

i tell ya all a little confesstion.

yesterday i asked mr. mitch if jury duty was called by voter registration or drivers licence registration. i haven't been called in years.

the reason i asked is because my DL has been expired since Dec of 06. :71526:

Think they call you by voter registration, but when you get there if your DL is expired, you're the one who goes on trial.:girl_haha:

[kindee]

So what are we gonna do? Has anyone gotten a lead on any "good" trial coming up soon?




PLEASE somebody find us a good live trial or we might turn to lives of crime of our own!!!!! :girl_haha:

[bambam]

PLEASE somebody find us a good live trial or we might turn to lives of crime of our own!!!!! :girl_haha:

man, we have got some SERIOUS addictive behavior going on here!!!! phewwwwwwwwww!!!! :francis:

*i'm talking about ALL of us kindee, not just you!!! lol

[mitch]

Think they call you by voter registration, but when you get there if your DL is expired, you're the one who goes on trial.:girl_haha:


lol i have been using my PassPort at the bank and such, but it expires this August. i have been putting my DL off because i got a ticket for speeding 100mph a few years back so they wouldn't just renew it i have to take the test. well i better get my butt in to DMV pretty soon.

[shortcake]

lol i have been using my PassPort at the bank and such, but it expires this August. i have been putting my DL off because i got a ticket for speeding 100mph a few years back so they wouldn't just renew it i have to take the test. well i better get my butt in to DMV pretty soon.

my word, where were you going? did you go to the Dr. Mainland School of Driving (remember how fast she wanted to get away from the courthouse after testifying?)

[bambam]

i'm stealing stuff from "other" places to have something to read. y'all have prolly seen this already:


http://www.startribune.com/nation/16019787.html



Robert Jambois, who prosecuted the Jensen case, agreed that if the U.S. Supreme Court throws out the California conviction, it will increase the likelihood the Jensen case will have to be retried. But it depends on how broadly the panel rules, he said.

[J Juror]

i tell ya all a little confesstion.

yesterday i asked mr. mitch if jury duty was called by voter registration or drivers licence registration. i haven't been called in years.

the reason i asked is because my DL has been expired since Dec of 06. :71526:

Here it goes by drivers licence

[bigkitty]

Good morning everybody!:0012:

I'm wondering if any of you who live near KJ know how the town is reacting to the verdict? Are the local papers reporting any reactions? I just wonder how KJ can hold her head up after all that we heard during that trial. I know I couldn't. Then again, I wouldn't do anything that I had to worry about people finding out about. Got to look yourself in the mirror everday -- I wonder if she put black cloth over hers.:22wink:

[mitch]

my word, where were you going? did you go to the Dr. Mainland School of Driving (remember how fast she wanted to get away from the courthouse after testifying?)

i was coming home from my mom's house down in the SF bay. it was about 2 in the morning and the freeway was wide open. i had just got this new little volvo and it just kept speeding up.

man the cop was so pissed, he first told me i was going to jail for excibition (sp) of speed. then he let me just go home. the ticket cost just under $700.00. i'll never do that again.

[J Juror]

Good morning everybody!:0012:

I'm wondering if any of you who live near KJ know how the town is reacting to the verdict? Are the local papers reporting any reactions? I just wonder how KJ can hold her head up after all that we heard during that trial. I know I couldn't. Then again, I wouldn't do anything that I had to worry about people finding out about. Got to look yourself in the mirror everday -- I wonder if she put black cloth over hers.:22wink:

I have no idea what the Kenosha papers are saying. I really wish Dobi would join us today. During the trial Kelly really did nothing but add to the sleeze factor of MJ. I wonder what the story was when Kelly was looking for the bail money. Did she know or did MJ snow her over too??? He was very good at that.

[kindee]

man, we have got some SERIOUS addictive behavior going on here!!!! phewwwwwwwwww!!!! :francis:

*i'm talking about ALL of us kindee, not just you!!! lol




Boy howdy don't I know it! I've been everywhere on line looking for a good live trial coming up and NUTTIN'! :girl_haha:

[kindee]

i'm stealing stuff from "other" places to have something to read. y'all have prolly seen this already:


http://www.startribune.com/nation/16019787.html



Robert Jambois, who prosecuted the Jensen case, agreed that if the U.S. Supreme Court throws out the California conviction, it will increase the likelihood the Jensen case will have to be retried. But it depends on how broadly the panel rules, he said.



Thanks bam. Lovelaw I know is concerned about this as well. But I think it will hold.

[J Juror]

i was coming home from my mom's house down in the SF bay. it was about 2 in the morning and the freeway was wide open. i had just got this new little volvo and it just kept speeding up.

man the cop was so pissed, he first told me i was going to jail for excibition (sp) of speed. then he let me just go home. the ticket cost just under $700.00. i'll never do that again.

Did you know that MJ looked up Volvo's on his computer? Kelly's ex Mark Grieman drove a Volvo. I wonder what MG is thinking of about all this with his ex Kelly?

[mitch]

Did you know that MJ looked up Volvo's on his computer? Kelly's ex Mark Grieman drove a Volvo. I wonder what MG is thinking of about all this with his ex Kelly?

i never saw that test in court. and i watched the whole trail. i guess i must have missed that.

[shortcake]

How do you guys search for live trials? I've just been putting in state names and live trials. Usually I come up with a link to some old trial and that is so frustrating. I feel like the guy on that commercial from a while back. "You have just reached the end of the internet"

[J Juror]

i never saw that test in court. and i watched the whole trail. i guess i must have missed that.

When Rhonda Mitchell was first on the stand. They had the huge charts of most words looked up. Volvo was on it--don't remember how many hits. But then he also looked up pipe bombs. Don't know where he was going with that.

[twinkiesmom]

Did you know that MJ looked up Volvo's on his computer? Kelly's ex Mark Grieman drove a Volvo. I wonder what MG is thinking of about all this with his ex Kelly?

Well he was also looking up bombs:a1chic:

[shortcake]

Question for J Juror...

In the beginning of the trial, most on the boards here were not impressed with Mrs. Gabrielle when she would do the questioning of a witness. Over time she seemed to get better, but I'm just wondering how you viewed her earlier in the trial.

[twinkiesmom]

Boy howdy don't I know it! I've been everywhere on line looking for a good live trial coming up and NUTTIN'! :girl_haha:

Hans Reiser is on the stand right now in Cali but there are no cameras in the courtroom. Henry K. Lee (not the scientist) is liveblogging the trial.

[bambam]

ok i fear i have totally lost my mind..... i'm jumping from one board to the next.... and googling all kinds of stuff in between!! H E L P!!!!! someone please HELP me!!!! make me get up from this chair and DO something!!!! :francis::francis::francis::francis:

[J Juror]

Question for J Juror...

In the beginning of the trial, most on the boards here were not impressed with Mrs. Gabrielle when she would do the questioning of a witness. Over time she seemed to get better, but I'm just wondering how you viewed her earlier in the trial.

We all thought this was her first case. She does look much younger than she is. But then she really did not have to go hard on any witnesses she had to question. I thought she could be a wolf in sheeps clothing if needed. We just didn't see it in this trial. In this trial our eyes met a lot and we rolled our eyes at the same stuff.

[twinkiesmom]

Question for J Juror...

In the beginning of the trial, most on the boards here were not impressed with Mrs. Gabrielle when she would do the questioning of a witness. Over time she seemed to get better, but I'm just wondering how you viewed her earlier in the trial.

I felt bad for Ms. Gabrielle because people assumed she was a young-un when she's actually an experienced prosecutor in her own right...I think she first-chaired the Trang Tran trial which was shown on CourtTV and did an admirable job and won a conviction (where there was a very sympathetic defense).

It's got to be hard to step in and handle witnesses when you're not running the whole trial yourself...and she does seem to be more of a thinker than a talker... I think she was used very strategically on direct exam of Kelly Jensen...Kelly seemed so much more putrid by comparison with Ms. Gabrielle....If Jammy had done that examination, he would have had to back off so hard to avoid looking like a bad guy/beating up on the witness....But Ms. Gabrielle was quite adroit at it.

[bambam]

We all thought this was her first case. She does look much younger than she is. But then she really did not have to go hard on any witnesses she had to question. I thought she could be a wolf in sheeps clothing if needed. We just didn't see it in this trial. In this trial our eyes met a lot and we rolled our eyes at the same stuff.

oh that's too funny! you and gabrielle were rolling eyes??? i love it!! :girl_haha:

[J Juror]

ok i fear i have totally lost my mind..... i'm jumping from one board to the next.... and googling all kinds of stuff in between!! H E L P!!!!! someone please HELP me!!!! make me get up from this chair and DO something!!!! :francis::francis::francis::francis:

I just out cornbread into the oven to have with my coffee. Hubby is home (Flu) and he don't want much to eat. Figured I'd get it made before the sun comes through the patio door. Then I'll be planted here.

[bambam]

I just out cornbread into the oven to have with my coffee. Hubby is home (Flu) and he don't want much to eat. Figured I'd get it made before the sun comes through the patio door. Then I'll be planted here.

J, you're on central time like me, aren't you?

[Bernie]

man I am having withdrawals. Is there nothing good live anywhere?

WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Im better live........:howdy:

[bambam]

good Lord.... if i don't get busy soon... i'll start experimenting with different avatars again... help!!!!!

[kindee]

Im better live........:howdy:





badger poking is MUCH better "live" don't ya think Bernie? :girl_haha:

[kindee]

good Lord.... if i don't get busy soon... i'll start experimenting with different avatars again... help!!!!!




bam what happened with your dish and tree situation?

[sciencegirl]

Well; I wondered where everyone was. How's everyone doing. I so need a live trial right now. I may have to resort to my pill box if we don't get something live soon.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/rajenn922/sobored.gif

[kindee]

Well; I wondered where everyone was. How's everyone doing. I so need a live trial right now. I may have to resort to my pill box if we don't get something live soon.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/rajenn922/sobored.gif




we are PAthetic. :love0085:

[bambam]

bam what happened with your dish and tree situation?

well they said they were sending someone to "scope out the tree situation" and that no one had to be here for that. that was supposed to happen by today. but i have been here every day and have yet to see anyone!!!! grrrr!! we'll see if they make it today. i've gotten so used to my ONE channel with rabbit ears.... i'd almost forgotten about it!! HA! thanks for reminding kindee! i'm gonna get on the horn and see if i can find out what the deal is!!!! it will give me something to do!!! lol

[kindee]

well they said they were sending someone to "scope out the tree situation" and that no one had to be here for that. that was supposed to happen by today. but i have been here every day and have yet to see anyone!!!! grrrr!! we'll see if they make it today. i've gotten so used to my ONE channel with rabbit ears.... i'd almost forgotten about it!! HA! thanks for reminding kindee! i'm gonna get on the horn and see if i can find out what the deal is!!!! it will give me something to do!!! lol




Just Do It! Give 'em a :71541:

[Swabby]

Hi Guys,

IF anyone cares, TruTV just said that Chapter 10 (or whatever number we are up to) in the OJ saga starts tomorrow and that they will be carrying it.

Swabby

[shortcake]

well they said they were sending someone to "scope out the tree situation" and that no one had to be here for that. that was supposed to happen by today. but i have been here every day and have yet to see anyone!!!! grrrr!! we'll see if they make it today. i've gotten so used to my ONE channel with rabbit ears.... i'd almost forgotten about it!! HA! thanks for reminding kindee! i'm gonna get on the horn and see if i can find out what the deal is!!!! it will give me something to do!!! lol

oh kindee, those satellite people will just forever be grateful for you sending bambam their way when she's bored. :a1chic:

[gramvof14]

we are PAthetic. :love0085:
You can say that again, Better still I will say it again, WE ARE PATHETIC:thud2::sad0119:

[bambam]

Hi Guys,

IF anyone cares, TruTV just said that Chapter 10 (or whatever number we are up to) in the OJ saga starts tomorrow and that they will be carrying it.

Swabby

will ktla have it??? cos i have NO tv!!! aaarrrrrggghh!

[kindee]

Hi Guys,

IF anyone cares, TruTV just said that Chapter 10 (or whatever number we are up to) in the OJ saga starts tomorrow and that they will be carrying it.

Swabby




hmmmmm thanks Swabby. I think it's just a hearing to set the actual date but I'll TAKE it!

[kindee]

You can say that again, Better still I will say it again, WE ARE PATHETIC:thud2::sad0119:




But we are pathetic TOGETHER! :love0085:

shortcake, I expect the DISH people will only get what they deserve! :girl_haha:

[kindee]

will ktla have it??? cos i have NO tv!!! aaarrrrrggghh!




You KNOW anything OJ will be all over the internet.

[bambam]

hmmmmm thanks Swabby. I think it's just a hearing to set the actual date but I'll TAKE it!

kindee, there is a spector hearing in fidler's court on friday.... just to see how plourd's caseload is coming along...LOL wonder if we can see it too????!! GOD! we are SICK!!!!! lol:francis:

[sciencegirl]

we are PAthetic. :love0085:

:67302:

Pathetic, pitiful and addicted. We are a sorry lot!!!! :francis:

[kindee]

kindee, there is a spector hearing in fidler's court on friday.... just to see how plourd's caseload is coming along...LOL wonder if we can see it too????!! GOD! we are SICK!!!!! lol:francis:





That sounds like something to look forward to! :67302: Seriously, have we ever had such a dearth of live trials? Sometimes over the Christmas holidays, but man...*sigh*...:waitasec:

[Swabby]

hmmmmm thanks Swabby. I think it's just a hearing to set the actual date but I'll TAKE it!

ROTLMAO!

Hey, at least I hadn't seen the "drag racing" one in Tenn., that they are carrying now.

But, it's pretty much a snooze fest.

Swabby

[sciencegirl]

This is soooooooooooooo O/T; but I got hooked on cooking catfish filets about two weeks ago. I've only had two so far; but is too much fish a bad thing??? With all the mercury and carp!! Anyone know?

[Swabby]

This is soooooooooooooo O/T; but I got hooked on cooking catfish filets about two weeks ago. I've only had two so far; but is too much fish a bad thing??? With all the mercury and carp!! Anyone know?

Most all "sold" catfish are farm raised these days, so they are safe.

You aren't catching them below a nuclear plant are you?

Swabby

[kindee]

This is soooooooooooooo O/T; but I got hooked on cooking catfish filets about two weeks ago. I've only had two so far; but is too much fish a bad thing??? With all the mercury and carp!! Anyone know?



I think you're safe...my hubby loves catfish too and we have a lot of it around here. Some people live on no meat BUT fish and I think they are about the healthiest of folks.

Hey, we're having a new roof put on today! In between the storms. How exciting is THAT? :eyebrow1qb:

[Bernie]

This is soooooooooooooo O/T; but I got hooked on cooking catfish filets about two weeks ago. I've only had two so far; but is too much fish a bad thing??? With all the mercury and carp!! Anyone know?

Yummy......I think I heard once a week is good....but where I live its custom to eat fish every friday.....:howdy:

[bambam]

This is soooooooooooooo O/T; but I got hooked on cooking catfish filets about two weeks ago. I've only had two so far; but is too much fish a bad thing??? With all the mercury and carp!! Anyone know?

omg i LOVE fish! but catfish is prolly my least fave! lol i live on the gulf coast and so of course i'm able to indulge in the finest of seafood cuisine!!!! fish is good for you!!! i don't think you have to worry about eating it too much, you are not having it like 20 times a day, are you?? lol we have the alabama deep sea fishing rodeo here on the island, and one year we took home a big ol king mackeral to cook up.... and lo and behold on the news that nite, they said "don't eat the king mackeral over 6lbs (or some weight) and the one we had was WAY over the weight... and we had ALREADY eaten it!!! lol nobody got sick... and as you see.... i am still here today!!!! lol enjoy!!!

oh i forgot to say, the reason they said don't eat it was cos it was supposed to be full of mercury!!!!

[sciencegirl]

Most all "sold" catfish are farm raised these days, so they are safe.

You aren't catching them below a nuclear plant are you?

Swabby

:67302: Nope; course don't know where my grocery store is getting them??? I'm just so leary of food these days. Everything keeps getting recalled. I wanna have a Big Mac and not have to worry while eating the darn thing.

[sciencegirl]

I think you're safe...my hubby loves catfish too and we have a lot of it around here. Some people live on no meat BUT fish and I think they are about the healthiest of folks.

Hey, we're having a new roof put on today! In between the storms. How exciting is THAT? :eyebrow1qb:

Any cute guys to look at???? If so; I'll be right over. Ohhh wait a sec; I can't because we got 7 inches of freaking snow yesterday and I can't get my car out. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[Bernie]

:67302: Nope; course don't know where my grocery store is getting them??? I'm just so leary of food these days. Everything keeps getting recalled. I wanna have a Big Mac and not have to worry while eating the darn thing.

I eat what I want.....if the Big Mac wont kill me something else will.....:howdy:

[kindee]

:67302: Nope; course don't know where my grocery store is getting them??? I'm just so leary of food these days. Everything keeps getting recalled. I wanna have a Big Mac and not have to worry while eating the darn thing.




I know what you're saying. I even quit buying bagged mixed greens because of that spinach epidemic. It shouldn't be so scary to just buy food for yourselves or your pets.

[kindee]

Any cute guys to look at???? If so; I'll be right over. Ohhh wait a sec; I can't because we got 7 inches of freaking snow yesterday and I can't get my car out. :1187603408.CR.Mothe




We got 10 inches of snow but it's mostly melting off and fast. And yes, I saw a young guy I was thinking "Shouldn't you be in school?" when the crew showed up this morning. But I can't see them now; they're on the roof! :girl_haha:

[sciencegirl]

I know what you're saying. I even quit buying bagged mixed greens because of that spinach epidemic. It shouldn't be so scary to just buy food for yourselves or your pets.

OMG!!! So did I. I thought I was the only one. I won't touch that bagged greens anymore. Too bad; because it was so easy to whip up a salad. Just pour the dressing on and you were ready to go.

[kindee]

OMG!!! So did I. I thought I was the only one. I won't touch that bagged greens anymore. Too bad; because it was so easy to whip up a salad. Just pour the dressing on and you were ready to go.



I did go back to some of the mixed bags, though---there is one spring mix I just love love love. Salads Shouldn't be Scary! :shock:


man, we need a new trial. :girl_haha:

[bigkitty]

Hi Guys,

IF anyone cares, TruTV just said that Chapter 10 (or whatever number we are up to) in the OJ saga starts tomorrow and that they will be carrying it.

Swabby

Hi Swabby!:)

Thanks for the info. I have just about given up on TTV, but I would like to see what's up with OJ. I haven't heard anything about the girlfriend that wound up in the hospital in grave condition. Did they say what the coverage would be about?

[RayStar]

PLEASE somebody find us a good live trial or we might turn to lives of crime of our own!!!!! :girl_haha:

:grin:I am not alone.:grin: I know the Jensen trial wore me out.

[shortcake]

If this has already been posted, I apologize but I just came across this while googling "murder trial live".

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=7951763&nav=menu24_3_3

[Bernie]

:grin:I am not alone.:grin: I know the Jensen trial wore me out.

BASEBALL is on ESPN..........:basic44:...........spring is almost here...:howdy:

[Swabby]

Hi Swabby!:)

Thanks for the info. I have just about given up on TTV, but I would like to see what's up with OJ. I haven't heard anything about the girlfriend that wound up in the hospital in grave condition. Did they say what the coverage would be about?

It's about the Nevada thing tomorrow.

I believe I read on the dark-side, that the GF is out of the hospital, but consider the source.

Swabby

[bigkitty]

If this has already been posted, I apologize but I just came across this while googling "murder trial live".

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=7951763&nav=menu24_3_3


Hi Shortcake! Thanks for sharing!:) The more I hear from Ed the more I like him. Better late than never my mom always used to say. Ed's a great example of that!:zm10:

[bigkitty]

It's about the Nevada thing tomorrow.

I believe I read on the dark-side, that the GF is out of the hospital, but consider the source.

Swabby


Swabby -- thats what I call it too "the dark side" -- sounds as scary as it is!:a1chic:

I hope its true that the GF is out of the hospital. And I hope she makes like this guy ":a1chic:" before she winds up dead.:(

[RayStar]

Does anyone know if there a law concerning how long a defendant can have his case unheard because of a busy lawyer? State-to-state or is it under some federal legal something. Wouldn't most guilty people want to delay the event? We have a right to a speedy trial why can't we as "viewers" have a right to a speedy trial without delay because of some busy lawyer? :kidding-01: I
Really, I think this has gone on long enough let him get another atty. If Plourd decides to not represent Spector in August, does PS get to delay again?
Now you see I need a trial my mind is working overtime. LOL

[kindee]

If this has already been posted, I apologize but I just came across this while googling "murder trial live".

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=7951763&nav=menu24_3_3




Well EXCELLENT for Ed Klug. Kudos for that.

[Swabby]

Does anyone know if there a law concerning how long a defendant can have his case unheard because of a busy lawyer? State-to-state or is it under some federal legal something. Wouldn't most guilty people want to delay the event? We have a right to a speedy trial why can't we as "viewers" have a right to a speedy trial without delay because of some busy lawyer? :kidding-01: I
Really, I think this has gone on long enough let him get another atty. If Plourd decides to not represent Spector in August, does PS get to delay again?
Now you see I need a trial my mind is working overtime. LOL

Spector doesn't want to be in Court again.

He's probably handing out Plourd's business cards like crazy. Being in the back of the line suits him just fine. MOO

Swabby

[kindee]

BASEBALL is on ESPN..........:basic44:...........spring is almost here...:howdy:




hey thanks Bernie! ahhhhhhhhhh JUST what I needed! We just got told to expect ANOTHER round of SNOW tomorrow night, as much as 8 more inches!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH but Twins and Yankees looks sweeeeeeeeet!

[kindee]

Spector doesn't want to be in Court again.

He's probably handing out Plourd's business cards like crazy. Being in the back of the line suits him just fine. MOO

Swabby




HA that's true...I bet he is offering to pay their defense fees too! :girl_haha:

[RayStar]

Spector doesn't want to be in Court again.

He's probably handing out Plourd's business cards like crazy. Being in the back of the line suits him just fine. MOO

Swabby
Oh I'm sure he doesn't. I am wondering about the law. How is this delay tactic legal and how long can it go on?

[sciencegirl]

Oh I'm sure he doesn't. I am wondering about the law. How is this delay tactic legal and how long can it go on?

With Fidler on the bench; I doubt it can go on long. A tentative trial date was set way back when; and Plourd tried to get out of that; if I remember correctly. Or should I say; he tried to get it delayed. Fidler said No. Plourd knows this case is due to go to trial; so I can't see the judge letting him delay for any length of time.

And may I say; I'm anxiously awaiting to see the good Judge again. He's gorgeous!!!

[DeeJay]

I found this trial it's in the UP of MI.

http://www.wluctv6.com/news/content.aspx?id=101147

It's not being broadcast 'live' but they do have 57 minutes
of the pros OS. I downloaded it to realplayer so I can have
a larger viewing screen.

There are clips of witnesses. I do not understand, after all
these years, why there are cameras in a courtroom (obviously) but no 'live' coverage. :confused:

Richardson is accused of pushing his wife off a cliff! :francis: :shock:

[J Juror]

I found this trial it's in the UP of MI.

http://www.wluctv6.com/news/content.aspx?id=101147

It's not being broadcast 'live' but they do have 57 minutes
of the pros OS. I downloaded it to realplayer so I can have
a larger viewing screen.

There are clips of witnesses. I do not understand, after all
these years, why there are cameras in a courtroom (obviously) but no 'live' coverage. :confused:

Richardson is accused of pushing his wife off a cliff! :francis: :shock:

It might be it has to viewed first before it hits the airwaves.

[Xmygrits]

It might be it has to viewed first before it hits the airwaves.

:happy0207: J Juror! I haven't said hello to you yet but wish to extend my welcome and appreciation for a job well done! I tried to read the "other" board (<<<<<<<<) yesterday and last night but became so angry I had to step away. I used to be a poster over there, but was banned for being "off topic". Anyway my best buds here in heaven can vouch for me...I am a nut but mostly benign.

:love0085: to all ya'll!

[Cat]

If this has already been posted, I apologize but I just came across this while googling "murder trial live".

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=7951763&nav=menu24_3_3

I saw that interview. Your link is word for word to what I heard, shortcake.

[DeeJay]

AACCCKKK!!! :francis:

Richardson denies pushing his wife (Juanita) off a cliff, BUT! committed suicide! :faintTHUD:
Sound familiar?? :0doh:

Juanita was a teacher and didn't want her students to
know she was suicidal. It would embarrass her. :rolleye0001:

That scenario is beyond the ridiculous! :duh:

[Cat]

:happy0207: J Juror! I haven't said hello to you yet but wish to extend my welcome and appreciation for a job well done! I tried to read the "other" board (<<<<<<<<) yesterday and last night but became so angry I had to step away. I used to be a poster over there, but was banned for being "off topic". Anyway my best buds here in heaven can vouch for me...I am a nut but mostly benign.

:love0085: to all ya'll!

I'll vouch for you, X. :basic44: Heaven is a good way to describe this board.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j257/midnightmewse/Smilies/Angel-1.gif

The forum >>>>>>>>>>> is locked because of off topic.

[Cat]

AACCCKKK!!! :francis:

Richardson denies pushing his wife (Juanita) off a cliff, BUT! committed suicide! :faintTHUD:
Sound familiar?? :0doh:

Juanita was a teacher and didn't want her students to
know she was suicidal. It would embarrass her. :rolleye0001:

That scenario is beyond the ridiculous! :duh:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j257/midnightmewse/Smilies/ROFL.gif