Cesar Laurean Captured!

[Battnt]

Man accused in fellow Marine's death captured

U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean -- the main suspect in the killing of 20-year-old pregnant Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach -- has been captured in Mexico, federal authorities say. Authorities are awaiting extradition to bring Laurean, who has been on the run since January, back to North Carolina.

http://www.cnn.com/


Thank God!

Maybe you and your little one can RIP now Maria...:1222423:

[KittyMom]

Man accused in fellow Marine's death captured

U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean -- the main suspect in the killing of 20-year-old pregnant Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach -- has been captured in Mexico, federal authorities say. Authorities are awaiting extradition to bring Laurean, who has been on the run since January, back to North Carolina.

http://www.cnn.com/


Thank God!

Maybe you and your little one can RIP now Maria...:1222423:



:basic44::basic44::basic44:

[KittyMom]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350032,00.html

RALEIGH, N.C. — The FBI says it has taken a North Carolina-based Marine wanted in the brutal murder of a pregnant colleague into custody.

The FBI office in Charlotte said Thursday night that special agents and Mexican authorities have arrested Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, who is charged with murder in the slaying of Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach.

The FBI said Laurean is still in Mexico and is awaiting extradition back to the U.S.
The Marines first began searching for Lauterbach on Dec. 17, after Lauterbach failed to show up for work. Local authorities took up the case Dec. 19, after her mother reported her missing. Three weeks later, officials found Lauterbach's burned remains in a fire pit in Laurean's back yard.

Lauterbach had earlier accused Laurean of rape. Laurean left a note for his wife, Christina, that said Lauterbach slit her own throat with a knife, and he then buried her in the woods near their home.

An autopsy found that Lauterbach died of blunt force trauma to the head.



Let's hope the Mexican gov't just turns him over and doesn't do any of their crap regarding death sentence crimes.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/2718866/

"Laurean's swift arrest in Mexico was due to the diligence and dedication of the Mexican government and our law enforcement partners," Nathan Gray, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Charlotte office, said in a statement.

"This was truly an international effort, and we will do all we can to ensure Laurean is brought back to Onslow County (North Carolina) as quickly as possible to answer the charges against him."

But Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson immediately cautioned Thursday night that "it could be a year or two" for authorities to bring Laurean back to North Carolina if he decides to fight the extradition process.

"The extradition process is one where you have a right to appeal," Hudson told The Associated Press. "I have no idea whether he would waive extradition."

[Battnt]

You know damn well he is gonna fight extradition!...:mad:

[Claudia]

YES!
I have been waiting for this news for what felt like forever! :s1gyahoo:

[gramvof14]

OH WOW thank God the sob should get the death penalty.:71541:

[mollybrown]

You know damn well he is gonna fight extradition!...:mad:

Well IF he has really been communicating with Xtrina to get money. I would dought that the Mexican goverment would foot the bill for him to fight extradition. :z0tdntknw:

Let's hope they are more coming with this perp then Andrew Luster :mad:

[Harmony]

OH WOW thank God the sob should get the death penalty.:71541:

If I understood correctly, the District Attorney said on CNN that the death penalty will not be sought since he was found in Mexico.

[KellBell]

:basic44::basic44::basic44:

I cannot wait for justice for Maria :1222423:

[KellBell]

If I understood correctly, the District Attorney said on CNN that the death penalty will not be sought since he was found in Mexico.

As long as he is put away forever I can live with that.

[mollybrown]

Just because I can

:basic44::hifive::s1gyahoo::s1gyahoo::happy0158:

For Maria and Their Baby :1222423::girl_haha::love0085::1187603408.CR.Mothe

[packy]

Glad they found him, it was beginning to look like they might not.

[dojewo]

Man accused in fellow Marine's death captured

U.S. Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean -- the main suspect in the killing of 20-year-old pregnant Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach -- has been captured in Mexico, federal authorities say. Authorities are awaiting extradition to bring Laurean, who has been on the run since January, back to North Carolina.

http://www.cnn.com/


Thank God!

Maybe you and your little one can RIP now Maria...:1222423:Wonderful news!

[Roamer]

If I understood correctly, the District Attorney said on CNN that the death penalty will not be sought since he was found in Mexico.

Mexico won't agree to extradition if the perp faces the death penalty, so even if it was planned, they'd have to drop it to bring him back.

[chambord]

Finally! He claims he *loved Maria*. I wonder what his wife thinks of that.

[LiveLaughLuv]

If I understood correctly, the District Attorney said on CNN that the death penalty will not be sought since he was found in Mexico.


Yes, that is the only way Mexico would hand him over, if the US took the death penalty off the table.

At least he is in custody, he will stand trial and get LWOP!


"This is a clear message to all would-be fugitives from U.S. law that Mexico will not provide them refuge," U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Antonio O. Garza said in a statement. "Laurean fled to Mexico early this year in the hope of avoiding justice. Despite his attempts to elude apprehension, international police cooperation and cutting edge technology led law-enforcement officials to his capture."

However, if Laurean chooses to fight extradition, it could take two years to return him to North Carolina, said Dewey Hudson, district attorney for Onslow County, North Carolina.

"I'm very happy he was caught today in Mexico, but I'm disappointed we didn't catch him in America," Hudson said. Mexico's extradition policy prohibits U.S. authorities from seeking the death penalty against fugitives who are turned over by Mexican authorities.

[StoneFox]

OMG!!! This is the best news!! Listening to it on the morning news.

He slept in fields and lived on avocados. It might take a years or two to get him back. At least he is caught and will be brought back.

[StoneFox]

Finally! He claims he *loved Maria*. I wonder what his wife thinks of that.

These fools that say they LOVE the people they kill. I don't believe a word of it. He loved himself more. :mad:

[tbrito1]

These fools that say they LOVE the people they kill. I don't believe a word of it. He loved himself more. :mad:

morning stony!!!! where is everyone today? I don't even see a thread for the trial?

[StoneFox]

morning stony!!!! where is everyone today? I don't even see a thread for the trial?

Morning Miss T!
The trial is dark today. Judge had to take care of some other things. It will resume on Monday. I will be posting here and on the Texas Takes Kids...forum about the polygamist compound raid in Texas. Some others are posting over there too.

[tbrito1]

Morning Miss T!
The trial is dark today. Judge had to take care of some other things. It will resume on Monday. I will be posting here and on the Texas Takes Kids...forum about the polygamist compound raid in Texas. Some others are posting over there too.

sounds good, i guess i'll catch up on some work today.... I'll pop in and out throughout the day! :basic45:

[sciencegirl]

Great News!!!! Fox is reporting that his wife may face charges as she has been in contact with him the entire time the search was on.

[tbrito1]

Great News!!!! Fox is reporting that his wife may face charges as she has been in contact with him the entire time the search was on.

Morning princess! :0012: They said on the news today that she can't be charged or it's not illegal to talk to him but it she would be charged if she helped him....

[LiveLaughLuv]

Morning princess! :0012: They said on the news today that she can't be charged or it's not illegal to talk to him but it she would be charged if she helped him....

She knew he was on the run.

Isn't that obstruction of justice or aiding and abeiting?

She should have told the authorites they were in contact with each other?

[tbrito1]

She knew he was on the run.

Isn't that obstruction of justice or aiding and abeiting?

She should have told the authorites they were in contact with each other?

Oh i totally agree i was surprised to hear the news report that it's not against the law to talk to him:confused:

[StoneFox]

Great News!!!! Fox is reporting that his wife may face charges as she has been in contact with him the entire time the search was on.

I figured they were just waiting to get him in custody before they charged the wife. IMO, she knows more and has more involvement than LE has let the public know about. They both deserve as much punishment as the law can give them. I hope we hear more of the details since CL is now in custody.

[sciencegirl]

Morning princess! :0012: They said on the news today that she can't be charged or it's not illegal to talk to him but it she would be charged if she helped him....

Morning toots:0012:

If she knew where he was all of this time; I think that's worthy of being charged. And wouldn't that be interfering with a police investigation or obstruction or something????

I'm tellin ya; if it were my husband and he did that to the woman and her baby; plus to their own marriage; I'd turn him over to the coppers in a heartbeat!!

[sciencegirl]

I figured they were just waiting to get him in custody before they charged the wife. IMO, she knows more and has more involvement than LE has let the public know about. They both deserve as much punishment as the law can give them. I hope we hear more of the details since CL is now in custody.

:mornincoffee: Katy

Didn't the wife get some kind of immunity at the very beginning? After all, there's no way she didn't know what happened in her own home. JMO

[sciencegirl]

She knew he was on the run.

Isn't that obstruction of justice or aiding and abeiting?

She should have told the authorites they were in contact with each other?

I totally agree with you. There has to be some kind of obstruction charge or something. And I'm sure she was told; if you hear from him, let the coppers know about it.

[sciencegirl]

Oh gee; didn't realize I was talking to myself :faintTHUD:

[StoneFox]

:mornincoffee: Katy

Didn't the wife get some kind of immunity at the very beginning? After all, there's no way she didn't know what happened in her own home. JMO

She got something for talking, but I think any deal she got could be off the table IF she didn't live up to the balance of the deal agreement. Whether she continued to talk with him to help LE, is a question I have. IMO, she is up to her eyeballs in this and I believe her story about the Christmas party may have holes in it. I mean, CL TOLD her he buried Maria and she WAITED to let LE know that so CL could get a day or two head start on his escape. OMG~~it makes me so sick to think she could be party to killing a pregnant woman and a child soon to be born.

:0012: Good Morning to you too SG!

[tbrito1]

Morning toots:0012:

If she knew where he was all of this time; I think that's worthy of being charged. And wouldn't that be interfering with a police investigation or obstruction or something????

I'm tellin ya; if it were my husband and he did that to the woman and her baby; plus to their own marriage; I'd turn him over to the coppers in a heartbeat!!

ITA!!!! something smells fishy!!!:0009:

[LiveLaughLuv]

Obstruction of justice

Definition -
: the crime or act of willfully interfering with the process of justice and law esp. by influencing, threatening, harming, or impeding a witness, potential witness, juror, or judicial or legal officer or by furnishing false information in or otherwise impeding an investigation or legal process <the defendant's obstruction of justice led to a more severe sentence>


Q: Can being present at the scene of a crime make you guilty?


A: In most states, juries are instructed that merely being present at the scene of a crime, even with guilty knowledge that a crime is being committed, isn't enough to convict a person of a crime.
But there are principles of criminal liability that apply to people other than the actual perpetrator of a crime. For example, under federal law there is a crime called "misprision" of a felony, which applies to a person who has actual knowledge of the commission of a felony and doesn't report it to the authorities.

Also, a person can be held criminally liable as an "accessory after the fact" if she has knowledge that a crime was committed and assists the offender to hinder his apprehension, trial or punishment. You can also be guilty of aiding and abetting a crime if you help another person in committing the crime, with knowledge of the criminal nature of the act they're committing.

Additionally, a person who agrees with another person to commit a crime, after which the other person commits a criminal act to further their agreement, may be guilty of conspiracy.
http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Crime-Definition-FAQs.html
But merely witnessing a crime, without any participation in it and without providing assistance, isn't a crime.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/glossary/obstruction-of-justice.html

Seems to me she fits in with a couple of categories.

[StoneFox]

Obstruction of justice

Definition -
: the crime or act of willfully interfering with the process of justice and law esp. by influencing, threatening, harming, or impeding a witness, potential witness, juror, or judicial or legal officer or by furnishing false information in or otherwise impeding an investigation or legal process <the defendant's obstruction of justice led to a more severe sentence>


Q: Can being present at the scene of a crime make you guilty?


A: In most states, juries are instructed that merely being present at the scene of a crime, even with guilty knowledge that a crime is being committed, isn't enough to convict a person of a crime.
But there are principles of criminal liability that apply to people other than the actual perpetrator of a crime. For example, under federal law there is a crime called "misprision" of a felony, which applies to a person who has actual knowledge of the commission of a felony and doesn't report it to the authorities.

Also, a person can be held criminally liable as an "accessory after the fact" if she has knowledge that a crime was committed and assists the offender to hinder his apprehension, trial or punishment. You can also be guilty of aiding and abetting a crime if you help another person in committing the crime, with knowledge of the criminal nature of the act they're committing.

Additionally, a person who agrees with another person to commit a crime, after which the other person commits a criminal act to further their agreement, may be guilty of conspiracy.
http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Crime-Definition-FAQs.html
But merely witnessing a crime, without any participation in it and without providing assistance, isn't a crime.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/glossary/obstruction-of-justice.html

Seems to me she fits in with a couple of categories.

Hi LLL :howdy:

Yep, she gets my vote for at least a couple of these offenses.

[Harmony]

I agree, a couple of those offenses would seem applicable to the wife. I am just wondering if she was secretly communicating with him or was she assisting LE and offered immunity. It would seem that if she was using her sister's computer it was done secretly. I read that is not illegal to communicate with him but if she knew where he was and did not tell LE of his approximate location wouldn't that be considered aiding and abetting?

[Lynn Gweeny]

VIDEO: Marine's mother reacts (6:20)
Maria Lauterbach's mother reacts to news that Cesar Laurean, her daughter's accused killer, has been captured.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/04/11/intv.marine.lauterbach.mother.cnn

[StoneFox]

I agree, a couple of those offenses would seem applicable to the wife. I am just wondering if she was secretly communicating with him or was she assisting LE and offered immunity. It would seem that if she was using her sister's computer it was done secretly. I read that is not illegal to communicate with him but if she knew where he was and did not tell LE of his approximate location wouldn't that be considered aiding and abetting?

Oh, she was using her sister's computer?!?!?! That sounds secretive to me. I betcha she is up on charges SOON. She screwed up, and IMO, she played a part in the things that happened after Maria and her child were killed~~the clean up, CL getaway, and possibly the disposal of the body.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Investigators probe Laurean communication
April 11, 2008 - 11:36AM
LINDELL KAY
DAILY NEWS STAFF

Search warrants for the Jacksonville house investigators raided nearly two weeks ago looking for evidence of communication between Cesar Laurean and his wife Christina were sealed by a judge at the time the search occurred.

But Dewey Hudson, district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District that includes Onslow County, said law enforcement officials have information that the Laureans were communicating by computer and may have made plans to meet.

Cesar Laurean, captured Thursday evening in Mexico, has been indicted for first-degree murder in the death of pregnant Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach.

The warrants for the home and property were sealed by Onslow County Superior Court Judge Charles Henry at the time the search occurred, according to a court official.

Laurean was arrested Thursday evening wandering a street in Tacambaro, Mexico by the FBI and Mexican authorities - nearly three months after fleeing Onslow County. Authorities said they had zeroed in on his location by seizing computers at the home of Christina's sister, where she has been staying since her husband fled.

Prosecutors continue to say Christina Laurean was not involved in the death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach.

Bearded, thin and chained at the wrists and ankles, Laurean spoke briefly with The Associated Press while being held at the Michoacan state Attorney General's Office in Morelia, the state capital. He appeared slightly disoriented and stared straight ahead, his eyes occasionally filling up with tears as he answered a reporter's questions in terse phrases.

"You know my name. You know who I am," Laurean said. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean answered, "Proof," but wouldn't explain.

When Mexican authorities who stopped Laurean, they realized he didn't speak Spanish well and became suspicious.

Laurean told the arresting officers he had only 10 pesos - about $1 - in his pocket when arrested.

Laurean, of Las Vegas, was born in Guadalajara, but family members there have said he moved to the U.S. more than 10 years ago. He had told members of his unit that he would flee to Mexico if it appeared he would be found guilty of rape. Authorities believe he entered Mexico on a bus on Jan. 14.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/laurean_55990___article.html/authorities_mexico.html

[Isabella]

Oh, she was using her sister's computer?!?!?! That sounds secretive to me. I betcha she is up on charges SOON. She screwed up, and IMO, she played a part in the things that happened after Maria and her child were killed~~the clean up, CL getaway, and possibly the disposal of the body.
I think it was his sister's computer the wife was using.
But it is odd the prosecutor said at one point the wife is still cooperating but then he said they didn't know about 'some' of the e-mails.
When asked if Cesar's sister knew the wife was using she said he wouldn't comment and they are looking into that.
Something sounds fishy to me. .jmo

[sciencegirl]

There is supposed to be a presser in about an hour or so; per Fox News.

[tbrito1]

There is supposed to be a presser in about an hour or so; per Fox News.

I just cancelled my 2:00 meeting so that I can watch it....:zm10:

[StoneFox]

There is supposed to be a presser in about an hour or so; per Fox News.

Thanks for the heads up SG!

[StoneFox]

I think it was his sister's computer the wife was using.
But it is odd the prosecutor said at one point the wife is still cooperating but then he said they didn't know about 'some' of the e-mails.
When asked if Cesar's sister knew the wife was using she said he wouldn't comment and they are looking into that.
Something sounds fishy to me. .jmo

Oh yeah, very fishy!

I don't guess we have a smells fishy emoticon.

:eyebrow1qb: that'll work. :grin:

[tbrito1]

go to cnn, they are setting up for the briefing...

[Claudia]

go to cnn, they are setting up for the briefing...

I don't have cable where I am right now - could one of you watching give us a summary of the briefing? TIA!!! :happy0207:

[tbrito1]

I don't have cable where I am right now - could one of you watching give us a summary of the briefing? TIA!!! :happy0207:

they are streaming it:

http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/live_video.html

[sciencegirl]

Presser is starting LIVE...now

[Isabella]

Oh yeah, very fishy!

I don't guess we have a smells fishy emoticon.

:eyebrow1qb: that'll work. :grin:
lol Works for me.
I might have been wrong on who's computer the wife was on, different stations say different things. No suprise there.
I only caught the last few minutes of the press conf. but I still don't get how you know where a fugitive on the 10 most wanted list is and it's not a crime not to tell, especially when she was clearly in contact with LE? :confused:

[chambord]

I missed the 2pm press conferance, was filing my taxes. *groan*. Can anyone get me up to speed as to what was said? TIA

[StoneFox]

I missed to press conference too. Went looking for something on Fox, found this.

Wife Refused to Help Marine Wanted in Pregnant Colleague's Killing



MORELIA, Mexico — North Carolina authorities on Friday said the wife of a Marine charged with murdering a pregnant colleague denied his requests for assistance as he hid in Mexico.
Onslow County Sheriff's Capt. Rick Sutherland said Cpl. Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his family and his wife, Christina, for resources after he fled in January to Mexico.
"She specifically denied to provide those resources when she was asked," Sutherland said. "She knew that was against the law."
He added: "We received cooperation from family members. … That got us to the place we are today."

More at the link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350070,00.html

[chambord]

I missed to press conference too. Went looking for something on Fox, found this.

Wife Refused to Help Marine Wanted in Pregnant Colleague's Killing



MORELIA, Mexico — North Carolina authorities on Friday said the wife of a Marine charged with murdering a pregnant colleague denied his requests for assistance as he hid in Mexico.
Onslow County Sheriff's Capt. Rick Sutherland said Cpl. Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his family and his wife, Christina, for resources after he fled in January to Mexico.
"She specifically denied to provide those resources when she was asked," Sutherland said. "She knew that was against the law."
He added: "We received cooperation from family members. … That got us to the place we are today."

More at the link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350070,00.html

Hmm. So she is denying she aided him. How does she explain the emails?

[StoneFox]

Hmm. So she is denying she aided him. How does she explain the emails?

:z0tdntknw: I dunno, maybe she was actually helping them while sending the emails, or she was communicating with him, but refusing to send him money. Sounds like she knew it was okay to communicate with him, but illegal to send him money.

Just guessing about that from the way that news article reads.

"She specifically denied to provide those resources when she was asked," Sutherland said. "She knew that was against the law."

[chambord]

:z0tdntknw: I dunno, maybe she was actually helping them while sending the emails, or she was communicating with him, but refusing to send him money. Sounds like she knew it was okay to communicate with him, but illegal to send him money.

Just guessing about that from the way that news article reads.

"She specifically denied to provide those resources when she was asked," Sutherland said. "She knew that was against the law."

Stone

My opinion, if she had access has to how to reach him, she should have alerted LE. I'm not buying into her excuses yet. I can't believe she is still a member of our armed forces. Very disturbing.

[Isabella]

It disturbs me that LE seems to take everything she says at her word.
I still say if she was e-mailing with someone who is on the 10 most wanted list that is not fully cooperating with LE in my mind, unless there is more to the story they aren't telling.
I just hope they haven't already given her immunity. .jmo

[StoneFox]

Stone

My opinion, if she had access has to how to reach him, she should have alerted LE. I'm not buying into her excuses yet. I can't believe she is still a member of our armed forces. Very disturbing.

I agree cham!
I definitely don't believe her. Maybe LE is still covering for her hoping to get more information. Did you see what Laurean said when he was asked by an AP reporter if he wanted to say something? He said "Proof". I wonder what he means by that? Do you think he is going to turn on Christina now?

Here is the part of the article where he speaks:

Bearded, thin and chained at the wrists and ankles, Laurean spoke briefly with The Associated Press while being held at the Michoacan state Attorney General's Office in Morelia, the state capital. He appeared slightly disoriented and stared straight ahead, his eyes occasionally filling up with tears as he answered a reporter's questions in terse phrases.

"You know my name. You know who I am," Laurean said. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean answered, "Proof," but wouldn't explain.

Asked what he would do next, he replied, "Do I have a choice?... I don't know."

[StoneFox]

It disturbs me that LE seems to take everything she says at her word.
I still say if she was e-mailing with someone who is on the 10 most wanted list that is not fully cooperating with LE in my mind, unless there is more to the story they aren't telling.
I just hope they haven't already given her immunity. .jmo

Hiya Isabella!

If she doesn't live up to her end of the original deal, can they withdraw an immunity offering?

[Isabella]

Hiya Isabella!

If she doesn't live up to her end of the original deal, can they withdraw an immunity offering?
Hi Stone, great question!
I really don't know the answer to that.
If I understand right since they are married she couldn't be compelled to testify against him anyway could she?

[StoneFox]

Hi Stone, great question!
I really don't know the answer to that.
If I understand right since they are married she couldn't be compelled to testify against him anyway could she?

Oh, good point about the marriage. I bet they are putting the pressure on her though. She HAD to know something. I mean, she KNEW something the morning he left, and let him get away before she went to the LE.

On Nancy Grace now. The sheriff is on saying there is no evidence to bring charges against Christina. He is being a little evasive though.

[LiveLaughLuv]

On Friday, Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson said Laurean and his wife, Christina, sent Internet messages to each other through the MySpace social-networking service. Christina Laurean used her sister's computer, which was seized, Hudson said.

Christina Laurean did not break any laws by communicating with her husband as long as she did not provide him with money or aid of any other kind, Hudson said.

Onslow County Capt. Rick Sutherland said Cesar Laurean "repeatedly asked for resources from family members" and that his wife "specifically denied those resource when she was asked."

Christina Laurean fully cooperated with investigators, he said, "and got us to the point where we are today."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/11/missing.marine.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


This reads to me that Christina Laurean had kept the police informed each and every step of the way, hence the "got us to the point where we are today".

I also caught the "PROOF" statement and I'm guessing he will stick to his story of Lauterbach committing suicide, even though the evidence doesn't support that theory.

I just hope he cooperates, I'm sure he'd rather be in a prison in the US vs Mexican prison...

[Isabella]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/11/missing.marine.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


This reads to me that Christina Laurean had kept the police informed each and every step of the way, hence the "got us to the point where we are today".

I also caught the "PROOF" statement and I'm guessing he will stick to his story of Lauterbach committing suicide, even though the evidence doesn't support that theory.

I just hope he cooperates, I'm sure he'd rather be in a prison in the US vs Mexican prison...
TY for the link.
I almost wonder now if she was trying to lure him to Las Vegas (working with LE) but that he was captured in Mexico before it actually happened?

[LiveLaughLuv]

I almost wonder now if she was trying to lure him to Las Vegas (working with LE) but that he was captured in Mexico before it actually happened?

I'm not sure if that was the case. He needed money and she was not going to send any, she knew if she did, she too would be prosecuted.

I know from the press conference yesterday, they wanted to capture him on US soil rather than Mexican soil so that the death penalty would have been on the table. The prosector reluctantly took the death penalty off the table so that Mexican officals would hand him over. He now will face LWOP....

It can take days or up to two years depending on if he fights extradition to get him home...

[Isabella]

I'm not sure if that was the case. He needed money and she was not going to send any, she knew if she did, she too would be prosecuted.

I know from the press conference yesterday, they wanted to capture him on US soil rather than Mexican soil so that the death penalty would have been on the table. The prosector reluctantly took the death penalty off the table so that Mexican officals would hand him over. He now will face LWOP....

It can take days or up to two years depending on if he fights extradition to get him home...
But if LE says the wife kept them informed every step of the way, then I assume they knew about the communications via e-mail and if that is the case then LE would or could authorize her offering him money to come to the US I would think without her being prosecuted.

I guess I just have a hard time believing that she didn't notice the sudden paint slpotches that were made to cover blood, and a big fire pit in the back yard...I don't get this at all.

[sciencegirl]

Oh, good point about the marriage. I bet they are putting the pressure on her though. She HAD to know something. I mean, she KNEW something the morning he left, and let him get away before she went to the LE.

On Nancy Grace now. The sheriff is on saying there is no evidence to bring charges against Christina. He is being a little evasive though.

My understanding from other reports; is that is how the police tracked him. Her instant messaging/emails to him at a local internet cafe in Mexico. So, maybe she was helping the police.

But, at the presser the reporters kept asking about her; and the Captain kept saying over and over; that the wife is really torn and confused; "that's her husband, and she loves him."

How does someone love someone who murdered a woman and child and cheated on her, and put her husband on the top 10 most wanted list??? I don't understand that at all.

[LiveLaughLuv]

I guess I just have a hard time believing that she didn't notice the sudden paint slpotches that were made to cover blood, and a big fire pit in the back yard...I don't get this at all.

Possibly why she received immunity. She must have knowledge even if after the fact.

I wonder how she felt after hearing Laurean say he loved Lautenbach. I don't know if I could have assisted my hubby after such an atrocious act. I think I would have told him to turn himself in, not run. You can't hide forever.

Even those in Mexico wondered who this new face was.



updated 9:03 p.m. EDT, Fri April 11, 2008

Captured Marine provoked curiosity in Mexico
Villagers say Cpl. Cesar Laurean spent hours at the local Internet cafe

Laurean, suspect in death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, captured Thursday

He told police he survived for months largely by eating avocados

"He always seemed really happy to see us," village resident says

SAN JUAN DE LA VINA, Mexico (AP) -- People wondered about the bearded foreigner who moved into a rustic cabin weeks ago in the pine-clad mountains surrounding this picturesque village.


Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, on the run since January, was captured Thursday night in Mexico.

Some thought maybe he was a drug trafficker -- something not unheard of in these parts.

It was not until Friday when they saw Cpl. Cesar Laurean's photograph in the local newspaper that they learned he was a U.S. Marine suspected of killing a pregnant colleague.

Police arrested Laurean, 21, on Thursday as he was walking along the main street in San Juan de la Vina in the municipality of Tacambaro, ending a three-month manhunt.

He is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, 20, who had accused him of rape.

Lauterbach's burned remains were found in January in the backyard of his home near Camp Lejeune, a coastal North Carolina base that is home to roughly 50,000 Marines.

FBI Public Affairs Specialist Amy Thoreson said FBI agents were present at Laurean's arrest in Mexico, but it was unclear what role they played. Watch authorities discuss the arrest »

Bearded and thin, Laurean told police he survived for months largely by eating avocados from the orchard in the mountains where he lived in Michoacan state.

After his arrest Thursday, a slightly disoriented Laurean spoke briefly with The Associated Press while being held by Mexican police.

"You know my name. You know who I am," Laurean said. Asked if he wanted to say anything, Laurean answered, "Proof," but would not explain.

Asked what he would do next, he replied, "Do I have a choice? ... I don't know."

Residents here said Laurean lived in a three-room wood cabin with a corrugated metal roof where he slept on a bed of crushed cardboard boxes.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/11/missing.marine.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[LiveLaughLuv]

Cpl. Cesar Laurean.


At a press conference January 15, 2008, Lt. Col. Curtis Hill -- the public affairs officer of the Second Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Lejeune, N.C. -- released the following timeline of events related to the disappearance and murder of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach:

May 11, 2007

Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach reports two encounters of a sexual nature with Cpl. Laurean to her supervisor. She reported that the first encounter occurred on March 26, the second about two weeks later. At that time, a pregnancy test was performed, which came back negative.

May 11

Naval Criminal Investigative Service opens rape investigation

May 12

Verbal order issued barring contact or communication between Laurean and Maria. Maria moved to another building across the base from Laurean.

May 24

Written order issued barring contact or communication between Maria and Laurean.

June 19 - June 24

Maria takes annual leave home to Ohio.

June 27

Maria goes to a doctor feeling sick. A pregnancy test was performed, which came back positive. Doctors estimate the date of conception to be May 14.

Over the summer months, Maria and Laurean each take leave time and return to the base as scheduled.

September 17

Maria requests permission to move into off-base housing to care for her baby. Her request was approved on Oct. 31.

October 18

NCIS recommends that no disciplinary action be taken until evidence can be taken from the child.

October 22

Witnesses questioned in rape investigation.

November 5

Maria moves off-base into home with Sgt. Durham, who planned to leave North Carolina in December for training in California. Maria planned to sublet the home in his absence.

The same day, a trial council re-interviews Maria, at which time she adjusts her statement to say that her pregnancy was not the result of a sexual assault.

November 26

Trial council discusses what possible charges -- if any -- would be filed against Laurean. Maria attends her last doctor's appointment.

December 14

Maria reported to work. Her workday ended at noon for a Christmas party, which she did not attend. Sgt. Durham returned to their home and says he finds a note from Maria that expressed her desire to leave the Marine Corps. Sgt. Durham said her car was gone, and some personal items were taken. Marine command determined that Maria had gone U.A. Investigators find that Maria withdrew $700 from a Jacksonville, N.C. ATM, and bought a Greyhound bus ticket to El Paso.

December 19

Maria fails to report to work. Sgt. Durham gives commanders Maria's note; command sends investigators to her house, and reports that her car and her things were gone. She's listed as a deserter because of concern over her health.

December 19

Command calls Maria's mother, who she says she last spoke with her daughter on Dec. 14. Maria's mother says she doesn't know where Maria is; her mom files a missing persons report in Ohio. Maria's cell phone is found along Hwy 24 when a stranded motorist uses the phone to call Maria's sister. She asked the person to turn the phone in to police.

December 24

An unidentified man withdraws $400 from Maria's bank account at an ATM in Jacksonville, N.C.

December 26

Maria misses an appointment with her obstetrician.

January 7, 2008

NCIS finally learns about the cell phone's discovery, the ATM withdrawals, and the Greyhound bus ticket. Up to this point, they still thought Maria was UA. Laurean is questioned as possible witness to Maria's disappearance, but not as a suspect. Laurean asks to leave work to meet with his civilian attorneys. Command doesn't see anything unusual with this given the status of the rape investigation.

January 8

The protective order between Laurean and Maria is reissued. It's learned that the order of protection had lapsed between Dec. 24 and Jan, 7 due to an administrative oversight.

January 11

Laurean doesn't report to work, and commanders are unable to get in contact with him by phone. He is presumed to be U.A. Onslow County Sheriff's Office holds press conference announcing they believe Maria is dead and buried in Onslow County, and Laurean is considered a person of interest. Laurean's wife gives authorities a note from Laurean stating that Maria had taken her own life. This was deemed to be impossible.


The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=52333

[Isabella]

Does anyone remember the case of Karla Homolka and how LE was so quick to give her immunity?
I just hope they have all the facts in this case, not that I would believe Cesar but still I think they should be sure that the wife was in no way involved before jumping the gun on giving her immunity. JMHO

[Harmony]

From LLL's timeline above, it appears that CL may not be the father of her baby. Unless there was another sexual encounter between them after her reporting to her supervisor.
(Am I misinterpreting the information?)

May 11, 2007

Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach reports two encounters of a sexual nature with Cpl. Laurean to her supervisor. She reported that the first encounter occurred on March 26, the second about two weeks later. At that time, a pregnancy test was performed, which came back negative.

June 27

Maria goes to a doctor feeling sick. A pregnancy test was performed, which came back positive. Doctors estimate the date of conception to be May 14.

[sciencegirl]

From LLL's timeline above, it appears that CL may not be the father of her baby. Unless there was another sexual encounter between them after her reporting to her supervisor.
(Am I misinterpreting the information?)

May 11, 2007

Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach reports two encounters of a sexual nature with Cpl. Laurean to her supervisor. She reported that the first encounter occurred on March 26, the second about two weeks later. At that time, a pregnancy test was performed, which came back negative.

June 27

Maria goes to a doctor feeling sick. A pregnancy test was performed, which came back positive. Doctors estimate the date of conception to be May 14.


I thought the same thing. I think the police already know if it's his child or not; afterall; it's been 3 months. And, I'm sure a DNA test was expedited in this case.

[LiveLaughLuv]

I think the police already know if it's his child or not; afterall; it's been 3 months. And, I'm sure a DNA test was expedited in this case.

No, they have not confirmed his paternity/DNA yet.


On Friday, Navy investigators said they would wait until Laurean is returned to the United States to perform a paternity test to determine if he was the father of the unborn child, because they want a reliable DNA sample from him.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,350834,00.html

[sunstar]

Finally! He claims he *loved Maria*. I wonder what his wife thinks of that.
Hi chambord! :0012: He *loved Maria* so much he killed her & her baby, and burned her body in his fire pit. I really wonder what his defense is going to be or if he's still going to try to say she killed herself?

[sunstar]

I'm not sure if that was the case. He needed money and she was not going to send any, she knew if she did, she too would be prosecuted.

I know from the press conference yesterday, they wanted to capture him on US soil rather than Mexican soil so that the death penalty would have been on the table. The prosector reluctantly took the death penalty off the table so that Mexican officals would hand him over. He now will face LWOP....

It can take days or up to two years depending on if he fights extradition to get him home...

Do you or anyone here happen to know if he's given a lawyer in Mexico or will his lawyer from the US go down there?

[StoneFox]

My understanding from other reports; is that is how the police tracked him. Her instant messaging/emails to him at a local internet cafe in Mexico. So, maybe she was helping the police.

But, at the presser the reporters kept asking about her; and the Captain kept saying over and over; that the wife is really torn and confused; "that's her husband, and she loves him."

How does someone love someone who murdered a woman and child and cheated on her, and put her husband on the top 10 most wanted list??? I don't understand that at all.

Hiya SG :0012:
I missed the presser. Okay, that's her husband and she loves him, but when Cesar is arrested and asked about Maria, he said he loved HER. Holy Moly~~this is one mixed up case. Who is telling the truth here? There is something about Christina that just doesn't jive in my book. I mean, what are LE saying, they feel sorry for her. :confused: It almost sounds that way. They have said the same thing from the beginning, it's her husband, they live in the same house, she loves him. Hopefully he will be back in the state in 60 days on the expidited extradition and the faces of this story will start to show themselves.

[StoneFox]

Hot dog, check this out~~~

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAxQfkotgyOSgs3LXmXYW6hy6PgD900H6180

Wanted Marine May Have E-Mailed Sheriff
By ESTES THOMPSON – 9 minutes ago

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Detectives are investigating whether a Marine charged with the brutal slaying of a pregnant colleague might have e-mailed North Carolina authorities to ask about turning himself in while he was on the run in Mexico.

However, Onslow County sheriff's officials cautioned Saturday that they are not sure whether a March 30 e-mail that claimed to be from Cpl. Cesar Laurean is genuine. Among other concerns, it was sent with the wrong spelling of Laurean's name, as Lauren.

"I tend to think it's less than a 50 percent probability," said sheriff's Capt. Rich Sutherland. "It had no impact on him being apprehended."

Laurean was arrested Thursday in a small town in Mexico. He is charged with the December killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, who had accused him of rape. The burned remains of her body and her fetus were found buried in his backyard.

He faces an extradition process that will take at least 60 days, and maybe longer than a year, depending on whether he fights efforts to return him to the United States.

The e-mail was sent to Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown. Sutherland said it appeared to have been sent from Mexico and was consistent with others that authorities know he sent while in hiding.

It read: "Sir, Can you assure immunity from a military court martial if I come back? , I know they will convict me with no evidence, I cant risk Leavenworth or a chain gang, what can you do for me?"

Laurean is charged with first-degree murder in civilian court. While the military could technically seek charges at the same time as civilian authorities, legal experts have said such a joint prosecution is not recommended by the military's manual for courts-martial and happens rarely.

Three days after receiving the e-mail, Brown replied, telling Laurean that turning himself in would be the "wisest thing you could do."

Brown also said he could not give an assurance of immunity from court-martial, but he added, "I understand the military is leaving everything up to the civilian authorities."

Police arrested Laurean, 21, of Las Vegas, as he was walking along the main street of San Juan de la Vina in the Mexican municipality of Tacambaro. He was born in Guadalajara but reportedly moved to the U.S. more than 10 years ago.

While in Mexico, Laurean communicated with his wife, Christina, using the MySpace social-networking service and repeatedly asked for help — which she refused. Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson has said that evidence recovered from the computer Christina Laurean used allowed detectives to identify the Internet cafes in Mexico where Laurean was accessing the Web.

Sutherland said Friday that Christina Laurean fully cooperated with investigators.
Laurean and Lauterbach were assigned to the same logistics unit at Camp Lejeune, a base on the North Carolina coast that is home to about 50,000 Marines.

[StoneFox]

Do you or anyone here happen to know if he's given a lawyer in Mexico or will his lawyer from the US go down there?

Hiya sunstar :0012:

I haven't read or heard anything yet about him being represented. I would think he would be unless he refuses. His US attorney may be trying to find somebody to work with down in Mexico.

Katy

[Harmony]

Excellent article! (you can read the alledged Email from CL to Sheriff Brown)

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html

[StoneFox]

Excellent article! (you can read the alledged Email from CL to Sheriff Brown)

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html

C~O~O~L!!

Nice find Harmony! Thanks for posting it. :0012:

[Harmony]

You are welcome, StoneFox! :0012:

Dayton Daily News Photo Gallery (including pictures of shack CL stayed at in Mexico)

http://www.daytondailynews.com/p/content/gen/sharedoh/photos_galleries/news/local/011008missingmarine.html

[Claudia]

You are welcome, StoneFox! :0012:

Dayton Daily News Photo Gallery (including pictures of shack CL stayed at in Mexico)

http://www.daytondailynews.com/p/content/gen/sharedoh/photos_galleries/news/local/011008missingmarine.html

Great site. Tons of photos. Thanks for posting it, Harmony!

[LiveLaughLuv]

Yes, Harmony. Thanks for that link. This is an article from that same link I thought very interesting. Seems Laurean may not be the father of that child.

Lives taken for nothing!

Officials want to wait until they have the suspect in custody to obtain a clean DNA sample.

By Kevin Maurer

Associated Press

Sunday, April 13, 2008

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — Naval investigators have not yet performed a paternity test to determine if Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean is the father of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's unborn child.

Prosecutors charged him with first-degree murder in January after finding Lauterbach's burned remains and those of her fetus buried in his backyard. Under North Carolina law, he can only be charged with Lauterbach's death.


Lauterbach initially told authorities Laurean was the father, but said in November she no longer believed that to be the case. She alleged Laurean had raped her in March and April, and a pregnancy test performed in May was negative. A later test performed in June was positive, and doctors estimated her date of conception as May 14.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/12/ddn041308laureandna.html

[Harmony]

From this link I posted :


http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html


Christina Laurean cooperated with authorities, but she had also communicated with her husband without telling investigators, said Hudson, the district attorney for the state's 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.


Two weeks ago, investigators seized a computer belonging to Christina Laurean's sister that Christina Laurean was using to communicate with her husband via the MySpace social networking Web site. Evidence recovered from the computer allowed detectives to identify the Internet cafes in Mexico where Laurean was going online, Hudson said.



So she was cooperating but not telling them everything!!

[sunstar]

Hiya sunstar :0012:

I haven't read or heard anything yet about him being represented. I would think he would be unless he refuses. His US attorney may be trying to find somebody to work with down in Mexico.

Katy
Hi Katy! :0012: It's good to see you! It probably all depends if he wants to fight extradition. From his comments when he was arrested it sounds pretty much like he's given up his flight and is willing to come back to the US as long as the state tries him and not the military.

[sunstar]

From this link I posted :


http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html


Christina Laurean cooperated with authorities, but she had also communicated with her husband without telling investigators, said Hudson, the district attorney for the state's 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.


Two weeks ago, investigators seized a computer belonging to Christina Laurean's sister that Christina Laurean was using to communicate with her husband via the MySpace social networking Web site. Evidence recovered from the computer allowed detectives to identify the Internet cafes in Mexico where Laurean was going online, Hudson said.



So she was cooperating but not telling them everything!!
Thank you Harmony! I think this goes along with what she's put in the diary that she still loved him but was angry with his unfaithfulness. I still wonder if her lawyer hadn't told her that sending money or helping him would bring charges against her if she would've done it. I have this feeling that when he left their plan was that they'd meet up again maybe in Las Vegas.

[KittyMom]

From this link I posted :


http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html


Christina Laurean cooperated with authorities, but she had also communicated with her husband without telling investigators, said Hudson, the district attorney for the state's 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.


Two weeks ago, investigators seized a computer belonging to Christina Laurean's sister that Christina Laurean was using to communicate with her husband via the MySpace social networking Web site. Evidence recovered from the computer allowed detectives to identify the Internet cafes in Mexico where Laurean was going online, Hudson said.



So she was cooperating but not telling them everything!!

She needs to face charges. She is not innocent in all of this.

[StoneFox]

Hi Katy! :0012: It's good to see you! It probably all depends if he wants to fight extradition. From his comments when he was arrested it sounds pretty much like he's given up his flight and is willing to come back to the US as long as the state tries him and not the military.

Hiya Sweetie :happy0207:

Personally, I want to know what he meant by his one word reply of "Proof". Maybe he was just being snotty with the press. I can't wait to hear his 'story'.

[StoneFox]

From this link I posted :


http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen_56005___article.html/coordinated_effort.html


Christina Laurean cooperated with authorities, but she had also communicated with her husband without telling investigators, said Hudson, the district attorney for the state's 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.


Two weeks ago, investigators seized a computer belonging to Christina Laurean's sister that Christina Laurean was using to communicate with her husband via the MySpace social networking Web site. Evidence recovered from the computer allowed detectives to identify the Internet cafes in Mexico where Laurean was going online, Hudson said.



So she was cooperating but not telling them everything!!

:confused: Is that cooperating then? It sounds to me she was telling them only what she 'wanted' to tell them.

[Harmony]

Laurean Web Use Tracked:

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_56036___article.html/investigators_information.html

[sunstar]

Hiya Sweetie :happy0207:

Personally, I want to know what he meant by his one word reply of "Proof". Maybe he was just being snotty with the press. I can't wait to hear his 'story'.

Maybe he meant they don't have proof that he killed Maria? Despite what the DA said about Christina not being involved, I'm still not so sure about it. The whole scene looks more like jealous rage by a woman than a trained male Marine who could've taken her out with one swift slice to her neck rather than going after her using what seems to be a weapon that someone with not as much upper body strength would need. Another thing, Christina wrote in her diary that she'd been contemplating suicide in January after CL left. How coincidental since the note CL supposedly left says Maria committed suicide. :0009:

[Harmony]

Maybe he meant they don't have proof that he killed Maria? Despite what the DA said about Christina not being involved, I'm still not so sure about it. The whole scene looks more like jealous rage by a woman than a trained male Marine who could've taken her out with one swift slice to her neck rather than going after her using what seems to be a weapon that someone with not as much upper body strength would need. Another thing, Christina wrote in her diary that she'd been contemplating suicide in January after CL left. How coincidental since the note CL supposedly left says Maria committed suicide. :0009:

Hi SunStar: Thought provoking post! Do you have a link to the diary entries or information? TIA

[KittyMom]

Laurean Web Use Tracked:

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_56036___article.html/investigators_information.html

Christina Laurean refused to aid her husband, but did not alert authorities she had been communicating with him, said Dewey Hudson, district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.


So this tells me that she didn't bother to tell investigators until they came knocking for her sister's computer.

[KittyMom]

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/04/12/ddn041308laureandna.html

Officials want to wait until they have the suspect in custody to obtain a clean DNA sample.

Authorities wanted to wait for Laurean's capture before performing a paternity test, to ensure it would be based on a clean DNA sample that would stand up to scrutiny in a legal proceeding, Naval Criminal Investigative Service agent Paul Ciccarelli said Friday, April 11.

"Obviously, this paternity test is going to impact this investigation," Ciccarelli said. Ciccarelli said the test will not be performed until Laurean is returned to Onslow County.

During their investigation, Naval investigators concluded the sexual encounters the two had were not criminal.

They have said Lauterbach considered both incidents to be rape, and her regimental commander was intent on taking the case to an Article 32 hearing — the military equivalent of a grand jury proceeding.

Laurean, 21, of Las Vegas, had told members of his unit he would flee to Mexico if it appeared he would be found guilty of rape.

[Harmony]

So this tells me that she didn't bother to tell investigators until they came knocking for her sister's computer.

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson confirmed to WRAL that the computer was taken from the sister of Laurean's wife, Christina Laurean. Investigators believe Christina Laurean had been using the computer since February to contact her husband over the Internet, he said.
The FBI was combing the computer for evidence of the messages that went back and forth, and charges could be filed if authorities determine information was being passed to Cesar Laurean to help him elude capture, Hudson said.
"Communicating with someone who's a fugitive in North Carolina is not against the law," he said. "To be an accessory after the fact to a crime, you have to do more than just communicate. Even knowing where the person is and not reporting it is not a crime."
Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his wife and relatives for money and other resources to help him on the run, Sutherland said, but his wife refused to provide it, knowing it was illegal.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2719416/?pda=1

[StoneFox]

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson confirmed to WRAL that the computer was taken from the sister of Laurean's wife, Christina Laurean. Investigators believe Christina Laurean had been using the computer since February to contact her husband over the Internet, he said.
The FBI was combing the computer for evidence of the messages that went back and forth, and charges could be filed if authorities determine information was being passed to Cesar Laurean to help him elude capture, Hudson said.
"Communicating with someone who's a fugitive in North Carolina is not against the law," he said. "To be an accessory after the fact to a crime, you have to do more than just communicate. Even knowing where the person is and not reporting it is not a crime."
Cesar Laurean repeatedly asked his wife and relatives for money and other resources to help him on the run, Sutherland said, but his wife refused to provide it, knowing it was illegal.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2719416/?pda=1

Ummmm, okay it's not a crime to secretly communicate, but what does that do to LE's confidence in her fully cooperating?

[KittyMom]

Ummmm, okay it's not a crime to secretly communicate, but what does that do to LE's confidence in her fully cooperating?

Exactly! :zm10:

[Harmony]

Ummmm, okay it's not a crime to secretly communicate, but what does that do to LE's confidence in her fully cooperating?

I agree and it seems to me that Christina communicating with CL, for a couple of months and not telling LE, would be considered helping a fugitive elude the authorities since she possessed info (eMails) that could be tracked to his location.

How can LE be sure that she did not hide other info? :0009:

[StoneFox]

I agree and it seems to me that Christina communicating with CL, for a couple of months and not telling LE, would be considered helping a fugitive elude the authorities since she possessed info (eMails) that could be tracked to his location.

How can LE be sure that she did not hide other info? :0009:

Cesar could have been in custody two months earlier. See, I have an issue with that, and I am wondering why LE doesn't.

[LiveLaughLuv]

In North Carolina it is not against the law to speak to someone who is wanted or on the run.

Only if she aided him, sent him money, helped elude capture, would she be arrested. There maybe more to this since they confiscated her sisters computer. I'm sure they are looking with a fine tooth comb to come up with something.

I can't believe she didn't know her husband committed this offense, it happened in their backyard. Could she have helped him after the fact? I know a wife is not compelled to take the stand, husband/wife privlege and could hide behind this.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Extradition procedure under way for Laurean
Mexican judge’s recommendation just the beginning

April 14, 2008 - 11:46PM
LINDELL KAY
DAILY NEWS STAFF
Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, accused of murder in Onslow County and arrested in Mexico after a three-month manhunt, could not immediately waive extradition back to the United States even if he wanted to, officials say.

"I have heard the rumors that he will be back here in a day or two, but there is a process that will take a certain period of time," said Dewey Hudson, district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.

Laurean - indicted for the first-degree murder in the bludgeoning death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach in December and accused of burying her body and that of her unborn child beneath his backyard fire pit - had his first appearance in front of a judge in Mexico over the weekend, said Capt. Rick Sutherland of the Onslow County Sheriff's Department.

The judge recommended extradition, Sutherland said, adding there are steps to be taken and "we do not know what (Laurean) will want to do."

Laurean has representation in Mexico, said Jacksonville lawyer Wally Paramore, who has been appointed as Laurean's attorney by the state's Capital Defender's Office.

He said he hoped to be in contact with Laurean through his representatives there and would then have a better idea of his client's situation.
http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_56066___article.html/county_mexico.html

[StoneFox]

In North Carolina it is not against the law to speak to someone who is wanted or on the run.

Only if she aided him, sent him money, helped elude capture, would she be arrested. There maybe more to this since they confiscated her sisters computer. I'm sure they are looking with a fine tooth comb to come up with something.

I can't believe she didn't know her husband committed this offense, it happened in their backyard. Could she have helped him after the fact? I know a wife is not compelled to take the stand, husband/wife privlege and could hide behind this.

Hi LLL:0012:

I say she had to know, and she helped clean up. IIRC, there is a 2 hour or less time window when the crime was commited, the blood cleaned up, and Maria buried before Christina returned home. I think she knew the evening she came home from the Xmas party and helped clean up the blood.

JMO~

[KittyMom]

Hi LLL:0012:

I say she had to know, and she helped clean up. IIRC, there is a 2 hour or less time window when the crime was commited, the blood cleaned up, and Maria buried before Christina returned home. I think she knew the evening she came home from the Xmas party and helped clean up the blood.

JMO~

ITA!!!! She knew immediately something had happened. Then she helped clean the home and was aware that he was burning their bodies in the backyard. Bet she even called some of the friends who came over for the bonfire.

[Claudia]

Hi LLL:0012:

I say she had to know, and she helped clean up. IIRC, there is a 2 hour or less time window when the crime was commited, the blood cleaned up, and Maria buried before Christina returned home. I think she knew the evening she came home from the Xmas party and helped clean up the blood.

JMO~

I agree 100% with this. There is no way on earth she didn't know. I have thought from day one that she had to have some knowledge of what happened.

[Harmony]

Internet Activity Helped Investigators Track Laurean ~includes news video~

http://www.wnct.com/midatlantic/nct/news/local_news.apx.-content-articles-NCT-2008-04-14-0059.html

[LiveLaughLuv]

<snipped from article>He says Laurean's curiosity about the coverage of his own manhunt is part of what led officers to him in San Juan Vina, Mexico.

The fugitive corporal kept tabs on the case through the Jacksonville Daily News website. Sutherland says Laurean also used MySpace to contact his wife, Christina.

“Certainly the internet is a very prominent way that people communicate these days,” Sutherland said. “So that's something that we had investigators with training and experience looking in to. There's no denying the fact that it did play a role in helping us to locate him."

Relying on support from the FBI, the US Marshals and the NCIS, deputies logged the websites Laurean visited -- and the Mexican internet cafes he visited them from.

“Federal authorities and state police in Mexico were able to pinpoint that further and to narrow down the geographical focus and actually locate Cesar Laurean in a part of the country where we thought he would be,” Sutherland said.

And now, thanks in part to the worldwide web, the international manhunt for an accused murderer is over.

Sutherland says the sheriff's office got court orders to track the IP addresses of visitors to MySpace.com, JDNews.com and other websites.

Those records, as well as the search warrant officers used to seize a computer Christina Laurean used to communicate with her husband, are currently sealed under a judge's order.

Seems his curiosity killed the cat!

He is so arrogant to contact peeps through the internet. Did he think he could't be tracked down?

Great job with LE officials. I just now want to see the outcome with his wife and where she stands in all this. Laurean's short statement "proof" has me wondering. I think he had help and that help couldn've been anyone, but inclined to think his wife...

Hopefully he will get back to the states quickly and start this trial...

[StoneFox]

Those records, as well as the search warrant officers used to seize a computer Christina Laurean used to communicate with her husband, are currently sealed under a judge's order.

Um, I dunno, IMO Christina only cooperated when she got caught. :z0tdntknw:
LE had to get a search warrant to seize the computer. :confused: If she were really cooperating with LE, wouldn't she be turning over all the communications voluntarily to LE? Wouldn't she tell LE up front she made contact and have them tracing from the beginning?

:eyebrow1qb: Stinky and hinky!!

[sunstar]

Those records, as well as the search warrant officers used to seize a computer Christina Laurean used to communicate with her husband, are currently sealed under a judge's order.

Um, I dunno, IMO Christina only cooperated when she got caught. :z0tdntknw:
LE had to get a search warrant to seize the computer. :confused: If she were really cooperating with LE, wouldn't she be turning over all the communications voluntarily to LE? Wouldn't she tell LE up front she made contact and have them tracing from the beginning?

:eyebrow1qb: Stinky and hinky!!

Hi Katy! :0012: To start with, she was using her sister's computer and myspace to communicate with him. He was stupidly spending hours using a computer at an Internet Cafe in Mexico following his case and also sent an email to Sheriff Brown at the end of March. I've got to say that these two seem to know nothing about computer technology or wanted to get caught!!:shock: And as for her cooperating, I agree with you. She would've told LE before they had to get a warrant.

[StoneFox]

Hi Katy! :0012: To start with, she was using her sister's computer and myspace to communicate with him. He was stupidly spending hours using a computer at an Internet Cafe in Mexico following his case and also sent an email to Sheriff Brown at the end of March. I've got to say that these two seem to know nothing about computer technology or wanted to get caught!!:shock: And as for her cooperating, I agree with you. She would've told LE before they had to get a warrant.

:0012: Hiya Sunstar!!!

I think Cesar was getting desperate. He needed money and was a stranger in a strange land. It sounds like his relatives in Mexico pretty much put him in hiding and said adios.

[sunstar]

:0012: Hiya Sunstar!!!

I think Cesar was getting desperate. He needed money and was a stranger in a strange land. It sounds like his relatives in Mexico pretty much put him in hiding and said adios.
Hi Katy! :0012: I think so too, and fleeing wasn't quite as easy as he thought it might be. He probably didn't realize that his wife couldn't send him any money. By his own email to Sheriff Brown it sounds like he was ready at the end of March to give it up, if the Marines couldn't touch him.

[Miss Behavin]

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_56160___article.html/lauterbach_christina.html

Cesar Laurean's subpoenas unsealed

Seven subpoenas that shed some light on the way Cesar Laurean may have communicated with his wife prior to his April 10 capture in Mexico were unsealed by a judge Monday.

[Miss Behavin]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=82

Off the Cuff - with Lindell Kay is a blog at the JD News site. Very interesting reading. This guy seems to get the scoop quickly. This is something I hadn't seen until today - you might want to check it out.

A reliable source inside the federal investigation has told me there is a very strong possibility that Cesar Laurean is not the father of Maria Lauterbach’s unborn child. In fact, officials are pretty sure he is not.

[KittyMom]

So, if the child wasn't Laurean's why murder Maria and baby. Seems to me it was in his best interests to keep her alive and healthy until the baby was born so that testing could be done and he could have "proof" that he didn't rape her. Why committ murder?

[sunstar]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=82

Off the Cuff - with Lindell Kay is a blog at the JD News site. Very interesting reading. This guy seems to get the scoop quickly. This is something I hadn't seen until today - you might want to check it out.
Thanks for the update! :) I've been reading over there and agree about his blog seeming to have the "latest", but hadn't gotten over there yet today to read it. Now, if the baby wasn't Cesar's, then who is the father and did Cesar know he wasn't?

[Miss Behavin]

This case is complex and has more twists and turns than a country road. Just when I think it couldn't get any more bizarre, then this stuff comes out.

I don't know what to think at the moment.

[KittyMom]

http://www.mexiadailynews.com/opinion/local_story_114131537.html?keyword=topstory

[KittyMom]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=48#comments

It took a lot of work but I finally got investigators to confirm that Maria’s car (pictured here in the sally port behind the Onslow County Sheriff’s Department on Jan. 9) was not at the Jacksonville Bus Station for the three weeks after Maria went missing Dec. 14. The car was found by Maj. Terwilliger and two other detectives Jan. 7 in the parking lot shared by the bus stop, a bread store and Checkers. But it had been moved around several times.



Capt. Sutherland said the detectives working the homicide side of the case tracked down several of the places the car had been between Dec. 14 and Jan. 7. Investigators won’t tell me where the car was being stashed and only confirmed it was being moved around after I came up with enough info on my own to get me to that conclusion. They are frustrating like that. But…given past experience, like when the captain talked about AMW with y’all, I figured he might do it again with the car movement situation if enough people asked.



I so hope they come up with someone who saw the person driving this car around.

[Harmony]

More from Lindell Kay's blog (about the purchase of the bus ticket a day ahead):

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=160

[KittyMom]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=160

She was missing pants. They weren’t burned off as no other piece of clothing was to badly burned. That jumped out at my boss, Cyndi Brown, right away. We reported it because we felt it would have some significance down the line. The D.A. later mentioned he was surprised The Daily News was the only news outlet to report that.

Maria's pants were missing. :shock:

[Harmony]

http://onslowcrime.encblogs.com/?p=160



Maria's pants were missing. :shock:

From the autopsy report cited in the comments of that link:
"The sheet is removed to reveal fragments of charred clothing on top of a charred and decomposed body. The clothing consist of a sports bra, medium size, and a green knit shirt."


It seems other items were missing as well. I wonder what it means by "on top".

[Claudia]

From the autopsy report cited in the comments of that link:
"The sheet is removed to reveal fragments of charred clothing on top of a charred and decomposed body. The clothing consist of a sports bra, medium size, and a green knit shirt."


It seems other items were missing as well. I wonder what it means by "on top".

Hmmm.... that tells me that she was naked when she was put there & the clothes were thrown in on top of her. Hate to think what when on that night...:1187603408.CR.Mothe


& where the heck do you suppose her pants went to???

[Harmony]

Hmmm.... that tells me that she was naked when she was put there & the clothes were thrown in on top of her. Hate to think what when on that night...:1187603408.CR.Mothe


& where the heck do you suppose her pants went to???

That is how I interpret it because I would think it would state "charred clothing on a ......." if they were worn. Lindell Kay states in one of his comments that he is going to look into it. Also, where are the rest of her things- shoes, socks, underwear, sweatshirt she had on at the ATM?

(reading the autopsy is heartbreaking)

[sunstar]

That is how I interpret it because I would think it would state "charred clothing on a ......." if they were worn. Lindell Kay states in one of his comments that he is going to look into it. Also, where are the rest of her things- shoes, socks, underwear, sweatshirt she had on at the ATM?

(reading the autopsy is heartbreaking)

I noticed that too when I read the autopsy report, but wondered if it was just the way it the ME dictated it. :0009: I still do wonder what happened to her clothing she had on at the ATM or if she'd changed, like you said, where were her pants, shoes (or are the black sneakers hers?), etc. Why discard her clothes but put the plastic bag of baby clothes in the grave? So many questions!

[Claudia]

I noticed that too when I read the autopsy report, but wondered if it was just the way it the ME dictated it. :0009: I still do wonder what happened to her clothing she had on at the ATM or if she'd changed, like you said, where were her pants, shoes (or are the black sneakers hers?), etc. Why discard her clothes but put the plastic bag of baby clothes in the grave? So many questions!

Oh, yeah - the baby clothes. I had forgotten about them. Where do you suppose the came from? Do you guess she bought them & had them with her or what? Was anything more ever said about them?

[sunstar]

Oh, yeah - the baby clothes. I had forgotten about them. Where do you suppose the came from? Do you guess she bought them & had them with her or what? Was anything more ever said about them?

I haven't heard anything more about them, but they really are an intriguing part of this scene, imo. With so many things of Maria's not mentioned or maybe not accounted for like the clothes & things she took from Durham's house, purse, and her own things she would've been wearing ~ yet here is a plastic bag with newborn-size clothes in it. Did she get it out of the car to show Cesar? Did Cesar get it for the baby? And why was it put in the grave? :0009:

[KittyMom]

The fact is, Christina and Cesear had enough time to make sure that the truth won't be known.

I do hope that LE did a complete job with the searching and interviewing.

[sunstar]

The fact is, Christina and Cesear had enough time to make sure that the truth won't be known.

I do hope that LE did a complete job with the searching and interviewing.
Yes sadly that is true. Despite LE saying she wasn't involved, for some reason I think it would be more like a scorned woman to put the bag of baby clothes in the grave.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2950414/

Posted: Today at 3:46 p.m.
Updated: Today at 7:01 p.m.

Jacksonville, N.C. — A Camp Lejeune Marine indicted in the death of a pregnant comrade frequently communicated with his wife during his three months on the run, according to search warrants released Wednesday.

Cpl. Cesar Laurean is charged with murder in the December death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, whose charred remains were found buried in his back yard in January.

Laurean, 21, fled Jacksonville on Jan. 11, hours before Lauterbach's remains were discovered. Mexican authorities arrested him on April 10 in the small town of Tacambaro, which is between Mexico City and Guadalajara.

An Onslow County judge on Wednesday unsealed more than 200 pages of search warrants in the case that provide details about the investigation of Lauterbach's death and the search for Laurean.

Investigators searched Yahoo e-mail accounts belonging to Laurean's wife, Christina, and her sister, Amber Emrick, logs for a MySpace page used by Christina Laurean and an Adult Friend Finder account used by Cesar Laurean, according to search warrants.

The warrants state authorities were trying to find evidence related to obstruction of justice, accessory after the fact of a homicide or unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.

Onslow County authorities have said that Christina Laurean, an active-duty Marine, has cooperated with their investigation and that they couldn't charge her for simply communicating with her fugitive husband.

"There were obviously some times that she had information that she could have called us before we found out. When we did call her when we found out, she quickly answered our questions," said Capt. Rick Sutherland of the Onslow County Sheriff's Office. "We asked her to contact us if she heard from him. When we specifically asked her about specific communication, she did not lie to us."

One warrant stated that Christina Laurean opened a bank account after her husband fled and transferred money into it. He did access other personal and joint bank accounts online from Mexico, the warrants said, but authorities said they had no evidence that she provided money to him during his flight.

Detectives have said they believe Cesar Laurean killed Lauterbach, 20, who was eight months pregnant, on Dec. 14 after forcing her to remove money from her bank account.

She had accused him of rape last spring. He denied the charge, but Camp Lejeune officials were intent on taking the case to a hearing that could have led to a trial.

The Marines first began searching for Lauterbach on Dec. 17 after she failed to show up for work. Local authorities took up the case Dec. 19 after her mother reported her missing.

Three weeks later, authorities found the burned remains of Lauterbach and her unborn child in a fire pit in the Laureans' back yard near Camp Lejeune.

Cesar Laurean left a note for his wife that said Lauterbach slit her own throat with a knife and he buried her in the woods near their home. An autopsy found that Lauterbach died of blunt force trauma to the head.

A judge refused to unseal letters left by Cesar Laurean for his wife, saying they might be excluded as evidence at trial because they would be considered spousal communication.

A Chevy Trailblazer used by the Laureans was searched to determine if it was used to transport Lauterbach's body after her slaying, according to one warrant.

Investigators reviewed files on Cesar Laurean's home computer and found he researched how to buy land and get a job in Mexico, especially in an Americanized area near Guadalajara, before he fled Jacksonville. He also followed media accounts of Lauterbach's disappearance online, according to the warrants.

"There are some indicators that there was some planning after the fact.," Sutherland said. "As to whether or not the crime itself of murder was spontaneous or not is something I just can't discuss right now."

Christina Laurean accessed her husband's Adult Friend Finder account on Jan. 21 and was in contact with him from at least Feb. 10 until he was captured, investigators said. She used e-mails and text messages and sometimes had her sister act as a go-between, the warrants state.

When asked about the communications, she told investigators Cesar Laurean was living on a ranch in Guadalajara and had visited the beach and other locations in Mexico while on the run. He was planning to visit his parents in Las Vegas, she said.

The searches of the e-mail accounts and other information on Emrick's computer helped federal and Onslow County authorities narrow their search for Cesar Laurean and ultimately led to his capture, investigators said.

An Onslow County grand jury indicted him on chargers of first-degree murder, financial card theft, attempted financial card fraud, fraud and robbery with a dangerous weapon.

The case is wending its way through the extradition process, and it's unclear when he will return to the U.S. Sutherland said investigators have sent a complete case file to Mexican authorities to assist with the process.

Prosecutors already have said they won't seek the death penalty against him in the case, a concession they had to make to ensure Mexican authorities would turn him over. Mexico has for decades resisted extraditing people to the U.S. if they could face capital punishment.

Reporter: Mike Charbonneau
Web Editor: Matthew Burns

[KittyMom]

It seems to me that the Laureants knew exactly what to do and not to do to keep Christine out of trouble.

[sunstar]

It seems to me that the Laureants knew exactly what to do and not to do to keep Christine out of trouble.

Hi KittyMom :0012: thank you for posting this new article! I can't believe it!! She's sure spent a lot of time with her lawyer, imo, to know what she can't be charged with. :madranting94dp:

[KittyMom]

Hi KittyMom :0012: thank you for posting this new article! I can't believe it!! She's sure spent a lot of time with her lawyer, imo, to know what she can't be charged with. :madranting94dp:

IIRC, she went to LE (with lawyer in hand) the morning that CL ran. She knew exactly what she needed to tell and what she needed to sit on. She hasn't been cooperating with LE. She answers questions to keep herself out of jail. That just makes me that much more suspicious of her and her involvement of Maria's murder and the attempted coverage up.

[Harmony]

IIRC, she went to LE (with lawyer in hand) the morning that CL ran. She knew exactly what she needed to tell and what she needed to sit on. She hasn't been cooperating with LE. She answers questions to keep herself out of jail. That just makes me that much more suspicious of her and her involvement of Maria's murder and the attempted coverage up.

It does all seem fishy!! http://bestsmileys.com/fish/5.gif

[sunstar]

IIRC, she went to LE (with lawyer in hand) the morning that CL ran. She knew exactly what she needed to tell and what she needed to sit on. She hasn't been cooperating with LE. She answers questions to keep herself out of jail. That just makes me that much more suspicious of her and her involvement of Maria's murder and the attempted coverage up.

Yes, that's right, and I think they both saw the attorney the day before he left and they both were in on Maria's death. The way Maria was killed looks so much like rage that would come from a wife toward the pregnant mistress, imo. I also think Cesar had so many other opportunities to kill her somewhere else and dump her body where it wouldn't be tied to him.

[Harmony]

Yes, that's right, and I think they both saw the attorney the day before he left and they both were in on Maria's death. The way Maria was killed looks so much like rage that would come from a wife toward the pregnant mistress, imo. I also think Cesar had so many other opportunities to kill her somewhere else and dump her body where it wouldn't be tied to him.

Why would Christine stay instead of running with Cesar? :confused:

[sunstar]

Why would Christine stay instead of running with Cesar? :confused:

This is just my opinion, but she wouldn't blend in very well in Mexico like he could with him having been born there and having several aliases. One guy traveling alone isn't as obvious as a man, woman and a young child. With her staying behind, with their daughter, and supposedly cooperating with LE I think she thought she'd be in the clear and so far she is. I also think she may have planned on seeing him later on, maybe after he returned to US (like he was wanting to do).

[Harmony]

This is just my opinion, but she wouldn't blend in very well in Mexico like he could with him having been born there and having several aliases. One guy traveling alone isn't as obvious as a man, woman and a young child. With her staying behind, with their daughter, and supposedly cooperating with LE I think she thought she'd be in the clear and so far she is. I also think she may have planned on seeing him later on, maybe after he returned to US (like he was wanting to do).

Good points!! I had forgotten about their daughter- it would have been difficult to travel, provide for her needs and hide with her along.

[sunstar]

Good points!! I had forgotten about their daughter- it would have been difficult to travel, provide for her needs and hide with her along.

I really do think them having a child had a lot to do with the decision for him to leave by himself. He was able to hide out in Mexico much easier without her & the little girl, especially since they would've looked like tourists, not natives. It would've also made it look like she was involved in Maria's death with her fleeing with him. :)

[Oceanblueeyes]

It seems to me that the Laureants knew exactly what to do and not to do to keep Christine out of trouble.

Oh course Kitty but then Christina Laurean has had a criminal defense lawyer representing her since a 4:14 am call was made from her cell phone the morning Laurean fled.

It will be interesting to learn if the new account in her name only, was accessed by Laurean from Mexico. She would not be in trouble for that as long as she didn't SEND him any money directly. If he made access then it would be him getting the money out and not her sending it to him.

His sister was to come to visit Christina in the last of March. Most likely she was bringing CSL untraceable money so the balance in the new account could remain at a lucrative balance.

imoo

[Oceanblueeyes]

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Records show early morning contact from wife's phone to attorney's phone
May 29, 2008 - 11:53PM
LINDELL KAY
DAILY NEWS STAFF
The wife of a Marine accused in the bludgeoning death of a pregnant colleague, who has drawn public criticism for not informing law enforcement about the crime for several hours after her husband fled, may have contacted someone immediately.

Christina Laurean told detectives she found out about the death of Maria Lauterbach on Jan. 10 on the way to Jacksonville attorney Mark Raynor's office, according to affidavits in court documents.

On Jan. 11, someone in the Laurean residence viewed an online news story about Lauterbach's disappearance about 4 a.m. Law enforcement officials believe Cesar Laurean fled Onslow County about that time.

Information from telephone records, confirmed by a legal source close to the case, show a phone registered to Christina Laurean placed a call to a phone belonging to Jacksonville attorney Paul Castle at 4:14 a.m. on Jan. 11. Castle, Raynor and Ed Bailey had been retained by Cesar Laurean.

"I am not going to address that allegation," Castle told The Daily News on Thursday. "I cannot confirm or deny that."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_56819___article.html/christina_cesar.html

[lyndawitha"y]

Oh course Kitty but then Christina Laurean has had a criminal defense lawyer representing her since a 4:14 am call was made from her cell phone the morning Laurean fled.

It will be interesting to learn if the new account in her name only, was accessed by Laurean from Mexico. She would not be in trouble for that as long as she didn't SEND him any money directly. If he made access then it would be him getting the money out and not her sending it to him.

His sister was to come to visit Christina in the last of March. Most likely she was bringing CSL untraceable money so the balance in the new account could remain at a lucrative balance.

imoo


It will be interesting to learn if the new account in her name only, was accessed by Laurean from Mexico. She would not be in trouble for that as long as she didn't SEND him any money directly. If he made access then it would be him getting the money out and not her sending it to him.

It is this paragraph of your post that puzzles me..If in fact she opened this account in her name only, and he was able to acces this same account from outside of the country, to my lowly understanding..means he had to have been informed on the INFORMATION:..such as Bank Name..Acct Number, Login information, passwords..etc..If he did not get it directly from his wife..then yowza..who else would have access to that information..maybe her lawyer...maybe her friend, maybe a Facsimile Personna on myspace, ..Doesn't realy matter to me..The acct was hers..and she somehow got that information to Cesar..Case made in my mind for aiding and abetting!1

[Oceanblueeyes]

It will be interesting to learn if the new account in her name only, was accessed by Laurean from Mexico. She would not be in trouble for that as long as she didn't SEND him any money directly. If he made access then it would be him getting the money out and not her sending it to him.

It is this paragraph of your post that puzzles me..If in fact she opened this account in her name only, and he was able to access this same account from outside of the country, to my lowly understanding..means he had to have been informed on the INFORMATION:..such as Bank Name..Acct Number, Login information, passwords..etc..If he did not get it directly from his wife..then yowza..who else would have access to that information..maybe her lawyer...maybe her friend, maybe a Facsimile Personna on myspace, ..Doesn't really matter to me..The acct was hers..and she somehow got that information to Cesar..Case made in my mind for aiding and abetting!1

I totally agree with you but I have come to believe in NC there is a fine line that makes someone and aider and abettor and from what they have been saying she has not broken any law unless she SENDS him money.

For some reason they seem to want to cover her butt no matter what she does. I think they felt she was getting ready to funnel him money and that is the reason they swooped in and stopped her before she crossed that illegal line.

They sure are covering for this woman for some unexplainable reason. Holding her up as credible:innocent1: when the facts show she withheld information from them on purpose and would have continued if they hadn't caught her.

Just why they feel it so necessary to do so with this dishonorable woman makes me think they desperately need her testimony and that makes me question just how strong their case really is without her.

Ocean

[lyndawitha"y]

I totally agree with you but I have come to believe in NC there is a fine line that makes someone and aider and abettor and from what they have been saying she has not broken any law unless she SENDS him money.

For some reason they seem to want to cover her butt no matter what she does. I think they felt she was getting ready to funnel him money and that is the reason they swooped in and stopped her before she crossed that illegal line.

They sure are covering for this woman for some unexplainable reason. Holding her up as credible:innocent1: when the facts show she withheld information from them on purpose and would have continued if they hadn't caught her.

Just why they feel it so necessary to do so with this dishonorable woman makes me think they desperately need her testimony and that makes me question just how strong their case really is without her.

Ocean

To me there is enough to indicate to me that she did indeed assist this bimbo..but if LE wants to cover her "Assets'..it's their problem..but morally we all know she knew what was going on back then, she knew what was going on during, and she knows whats going on now...She only wishes to cover her own ass..simple as that..She better be very careful tho..it wouldn't take much to negate her deal with the prosecution..but for myself..She will suffer the consequences one day!..Guilt does transend to the next level!

:104511::71541::groan:

[sunstar]

I missed the program but apparently the case was on Dateline last night! :0012:

Story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25011671/


Video
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25013288#25013288

[Amaryllis]

Will be so glad when he gets his but back in the statesd and on trial......plus his wife just what does she know that keeps her from getting charges agaisnst her....Must know something very good........

[Nut44x4]

The Virginian-Pilot(Norfolk, VA.)

September 12, 2008 Friday

Man accused in death of pregnant Marine to face extradition
A Mexican court is allowing a Marine accused in the slaying of pregnant colleague to be extradited to the United States , but it could be weeks or months before he returns to stand trial, North Carolina authorities said Thursday.

Cpl. Cesar Laurean is charged with first-degree murder in Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's death.

Lauterbach, 20, of Vandalia, Ohio, was eight months pregnant when she disappeared in December. Her burned remains, and those of her unborn child, were found in January in a shallow grave in the backyard of Laurean's home near Camp Lejeune, the military base on the North Carolina coast where both served .

Laurean, 21, went to Mexico when investigators began questioning him in Lauterbach's disappearance, and he was arrested there in April. Under an agreement with Mexico, he will not face the death penalty , North Carolina authorities have said .

The U.S. Embassy expected a ruling on Laurean's extradition this week but had not yet been notified on Thursday.

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson and Laurean's defense attorney, Dick McNeil, were among those who said they were alerted to the Mexican court's decision.

Both embassy and local officials also said Laurean has 15 days to appeal that decision. McNeil would not comment on whether Laurean planned to appeal.

"If he does appeal, that will extend this outward for a few more months," McNeil said.

Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown said he expects to have Laurean in his custody in about a week, based on a conversation with the FBI. However, both McNeil and Hudson said it was more likely that it would take several weeks to arrange Laurean's return, assuming he does not appeal the order.

The Mexican Ministry of Foreign Affairs granted the extradition Sept. 4, the Mexican Embassy said in a state ment. Both a judge and the ministry of foreign affairs analyze extradition cases in Mexico.

The presiding judge supported Laurean's return, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which makes the final decision, agreed.

Laurean, of Las Vegas, and Lauterbach were assigned to the same logistics unit at Camp Lejeune, and she had accused him of rape last year. Naval investigators were unable to corroborate the allegation, and she later recanted her claim that Laurean was the father of her unborn child.

Still, the Marines have said their regimental commander was intent on taking the case to a hearing that could have led to a trial. Laurean had told friends he would flee to Mexico if it appeared he would be convicted of rape.

Detectives have said Laurean, in a note to his wife, denied killing Lauterbach, claiming she committed suicide and that he buried her. Laurean's constant contact with his wife and family eventually led to his arrest.

Prosecutors say he frequently logged into an e-mail account belonging to his wife, Christina, and left her messages. She refused to help him and has cooperated with authorities.

the victim

Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, 20, was found in January in a shallow grave in the backyard of Laurean's home near Camp Lejeune. Lauterbach was eight months pregnant. the accused

Cpl. Cesar Laurean, 21, was arrested in Mexico in April. He is charged with first-degree murder but under an agreement with Mexico will not face the death penalty.
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:850236292&start=21

[Nut44x4]

Attorney says Marine accused of killing pregnant colleague is fighting extradition to US
5:52 AM EDT, October 12, 2008

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) _ The attorney for a Marine accused of killing a pregnant colleague says his client is fighting extradition to the United States.

Dick McNeil says 21-year-old Cpl. Cesar Laurean has filed an extradition appeal in a Mexican court.

In September, North Carolina officials said a Mexican court approved returning Laurean to the U.S.

Laurean is charged with first-degree murder in the slaying of Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach. The 20-year-old from Vandalia, Ohio, was eight months pregnant when she was killed late last year.

Her remains were found in Laurean's backyard near North Carolina's Camp Lejeune where both Marines served as clerks.

Laurean was arrested in Mexico in April.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-missing-marine,0,6932428.story

[sunstar]

:madranting94dp:Christina Laurean in Mexico visiting her jailed husband

November 6, 2008 - 2:45PM
LINDELL KAY
A potential witness in the 2007 bludgeoning death of a pregnant Marine has flown to Mexico for what could be a conjugal visit with the main suspect in the case, prosecutors said.

Christina Laurean, wife of Camp Lejeune Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean who is accused of killing a pregnant colleague, is in Mexico visiting with him now, said Dewey Hudson, the district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.

"It is my understanding that Mexico allows prisoners a conjugal visit on their birthday," Hudson said during a press conference on the Onslow County Courthouse steps Thursday.

Cesar Laurean's birthday is Nov. 13, according to his marriage certificate. His wife, Christina Laurean took leave from Camp Lejeune on Monday and is not expected to return until Nov. 17.

An Onslow County Grand Jury indicted Laurean in January with first-degree murder in the December death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, who had accused him of rape. Laurean fled the area the day before Lauterbach's body and that of her unborn child were found buried in the Laureans' Half Moon community backyard. Cesar Laurean was arrested in Mexico in April and has filed an extradition appeal.

Hudson said the Marines Corps has assured him they have taken extra steps to stay in contact with her during the visit, and they are confident she will return to the U.S. A 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force spokesman confirmed Christina Laurean's leave.

"Lance Corporal Christina Laurean is currently in an authorized annual leave status," said II MEF Capt. William Pelletier. "Lance Corporal Laurean's request for annual leave was approved by her commanding officer."

He said the Privacy Act prohibited him from disclosing any further details.

Authorities have called Christina Laurean a "cooperating witness" throughout the investigation, but Hudson said he is concerned how the visit will impact her willingness to testify against her husband. He stressed prosecutors cannot compel Christina Laurean to testify due to North Carolina law.

"This throws us for a loop," Hudson said.

Laurean's Jacksonville attorney Dick McNeil said he was concerned about any possible recordings that might be made during the visit.

McNeil - who said he was at a disadvantage in the case because he has not seen all of the evidence the prosecution has - said the extradition process was daunting.

"I have read some of the extradition packet and it is way over our pay grade," he said, referring to himself and Hudson. "There is a letter in it from (Secretary of State) Condoleezza Rice to the Mexican government. That's how serious this is."

Christina Laurean's Jacksonville attorney Chris Welch attended the downtown press conference Thursday but would not comment about his client's trip.

Christina Laurean has been speaking with her husband over the phone, and his parents and sister have been to visit him in Mexico since his confinement, McNeil said

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_60520___article.html/christina_hudson.html

[StoneFox]

That just disgusts me!! I still believe Christina has more to do with the murder/cover up than we know.

[Faith]

:45024:

[sunstar]

That just disgusts me!! I still believe Christina has more to do with the murder/cover up than we know.

It's one of the most disgusting things I've read lately! It just confirms in my mind that his wife gave her approval to him killing Maria, or maybe helped out. Otherwise why is she still standing by her man and travelling to Mexico for his birthday? GMAB! :madranting94dp: MOO of course.

[nicky]

It's one of the most disgusting things I've read lately! It just confirms in my mind that his wife gave her approval to him killing Maria, or maybe helped out. Otherwise why is she still standing by her man and travelling to Mexico for his birthday? GMAB! :madranting94dp: MOO of course.

I agree! I hope the Mexican officials have the cell bugged and turn it over to the FBI after she visits, there probably wouldn't be an expectation of privacy there, so what she says should be admisable. jmo or wishful thinking

[Harmony]

I understood the evidence in this case had been compromised a while back. What is the status of that?

[sunstar]

I agree! I hope the Mexican officials have the cell bugged and turn it over to the FBI after she visits, there probably wouldn't be an expectation of privacy there, so what she says should be admisable. jmo or wishful thinking

I'd hope they'd do something like that but I won't hold my breath! :frown:

[sunstar]

I understood the evidence in this case had been compromised a while back. What is the status of that?

I'm not sure! I'll see if I can find anything on that for you. :6u8ky2o:

[sunstar]

I understood the evidence in this case had been compromised a while back. What is the status of that?

Is this what you're talking about?

Sheriff: DA Intern Arrested for Offering to Sell Missing Marine Files

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404947,00.html

I haven't heard anything more about it since the news broke. :shrug1:

[Harmony]

Is this what you're talking about?

Sheriff: DA Intern Arrested for Offering to Sell Missing Marine Files

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404947,00.html

I haven't heard anything more about it since the news broke. :shrug1:

Hi SunStar!!

Yes I was wondering if they would still be able to use those in a trial?

Thank you for taking the time to look for the info.

[sunstar]

Hi SunStar!!

Yes I was wondering if they would still be able to use those in a trial?

Thank you for taking the time to look for the info.

Oh you're most welcome my friend! :smile: But I'm not sure about the legal question. :shrug1:

[KittyMom]

:madranting94dp: OMGosh!!!! That is just un-freakin-believable! What woman of any value would want a "visit" with such a monster. LE screwed up big time by not throwing the book at the wife from day one. She helped that sorry piece of trash leave the country. LE should;ve played hard ball with her. Now I really suspect she knew about the killing and the burned bodies. That could;ve been her and her baby lying in that pit.

[sunstar]

:madranting94dp: OMGosh!!!! That is just un-freakin-believable! What woman of any value would want a "visit" with such a monster. LE screwed up big time by not throwing the book at the wife from day one. She helped that sorry piece of trash leave the country. LE should;ve played hard ball with her. Now I really suspect she knew about the killing and the burned bodies. That could;ve been her and her baby lying in that pit.

I so agree ~ she's no cooperating witness, imo. It sure seems she's still in love with him and what woman in her right mind would be ~ unless ~ she helped him. :mad: MOO

[Harmony]

http://www.jdnews.com/news/house_61474___article.html/laurean_home.html

Laurean house on the auction block

January 4, 2009 - 7:28 PM
LINDELL KAY
DAILY NEWS STAFF

The former home of Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean, where authorities say a year ago he beat, burned and buried a pregnant colleague who had accused him of rape, could go to the highest bidder this afternoon.
The ranch-style, 1,100-square foot house at 103 Meadow Trail will be auctioned off for cash at the Old Bridge Street entrance to the E.W. Summersill Courthouse Building at 2 p.m. There is no minimum starting bid.
The three-bedroom, two-bath house on a half-acre plot is owned by Laurean and his wife, who defaulted on their home loan, according to a legal clerk at Brock & Scott, PLLC, the Wilmington law firm handling the foreclosure.
Detectives with the Onslow County Sheriff's Department said they are not concerned by the sale of the house.
"Ownership is not an issue," said Sheriff's Capt. Rick Sutherland. "If we develop probable cause that we need to go back to the house, we will serve a search warrant on the current owner."
The buyer of the Laurean home assumes the structure "as is where is," according to the legal notice.
The buyer must pay 5 percent of the sale price or $750, whichever is greater, at the time of sale.
Laurean, a Camp Lejeune Marine with deserter status, is fighting extradition back to the U.S. from a Mexican jail. He was arrested in Tacambaro, Mexico, in April.
He had been on the lam three months, living in a rundown shack and surviving on avocados. Sheriff Ed Brown declared an "earthwide" search for Laurean after he fled his home in mid-January 2008 as investigators zeroed in on him as a suspect in the disappearance of a coworker.
Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach disappeared in mid-December 2007 and became the focus of an intense search by authorities and the media in early January 2008. On Jan. 11, 2008, authorities found her and her unborn child's remains in a fire pit in the backyard of 103 Meadow Trail.
Authorities believe she was killed on Dec. 14, 2007, and buried shortly after that. Video surveillance footage shows Laurean buying paint, cinder blocks - which ended up lining the fire pit - and a wheel barrow from Lowe's Home Improvement on Dec. 16, 2007.
One neighbor said he remembered loaning a shovel to Laurean in mid-December 2007.
Laurean reportedly held a bonfire party in his backyard on Christmas Eve while his wife was out of town, according to several neighbors in the area.
Sheriff's Detectives found a large amount of blood splatter in the garage and traces of blood in another room in the house. There was also evidence that someone used paint to try to cover the blood splatter, authorities said.
Authorities said Laurean left behind a note saying Lauterbach had killed herself and he buried the body. A medical examiner later said Lauterbach had been beaten to death.

[sarahhod]

DA: Laurean set to return to United States

District Attorney says extradition appeal denied

April 15, 2009 - 6:02 PM
LINDELL KAY (lkay@freedomenc.com)

Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean is due in Houston by the end of the week, according to District Attorney Dewey Hudson.
Hudson was notified by military officials that Laurean's extradition appeal has been denied and military officials expect Laurean turned over to U.S. by end of the week. Hudson is the district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.
Laurean, a Camp Lejeune Marine with deserter status, was fighting extradition back to the U.S. from a Mexican jail. He was arrested in Tacambaro, Mexico, in April after being on the lam three months, living in a rundown shack and surviving on avocados.
Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown declared an "earthwide" search for Laurean after he fled his home in mid-January 2008 as investigators zeroed in on him as a suspect in the disappearance of a coworker.
Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach disappeared in mid-December 2007 and became the focus of an intense search by authorities and the media in early January 2008. On Jan. 11, 2008, authorities found her and her unborn child's remains in a fire pit in the backyard of 103 Meadow Trail.
Authorities believe Lauterbach was killed on Dec. 14, 2007, and buried shortly after that. Video surveillance footage shows Laurean buying paint, cinder blocks - which ended up lining the fire pit - and a wheel barrow from Lowe's Home Improvement on Dec. 16, 2007.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/laurean_63656___article.html/authorities_lauterbach.html

[Harmony]

DA: Laurean set to return to United States

District Attorney says extradition appeal denied

April 15, 2009 - 6:02 PM
LINDELL KAY (lkay@freedomenc.com)

Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean is due in Houston by the end of the week, according to District Attorney Dewey Hudson.
Hudson was notified by military officials that Laurean's extradition appeal has been denied and military officials expect Laurean turned over to U.S. by end of the week. Hudson is the district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.
Laurean, a Camp Lejeune Marine with deserter status, was fighting extradition back to the U.S. from a Mexican jail. He was arrested in Tacambaro, Mexico, in April after being on the lam three months, living in a rundown shack and surviving on avocados.
Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown declared an "earthwide" search for Laurean after he fled his home in mid-January 2008 as investigators zeroed in on him as a suspect in the disappearance of a coworker.
Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach disappeared in mid-December 2007 and became the focus of an intense search by authorities and the media in early January 2008. On Jan. 11, 2008, authorities found her and her unborn child's remains in a fire pit in the backyard of 103 Meadow Trail.
Authorities believe Lauterbach was killed on Dec. 14, 2007, and buried shortly after that. Video surveillance footage shows Laurean buying paint, cinder blocks - which ended up lining the fire pit - and a wheel barrow from Lowe's Home Improvement on Dec. 16, 2007.

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/laurean_63656___article.html/authorities_lauterbach.html

:000: I can't believe it took a whole year to get him back. I wonder when the trial will take place?

[sarahhod]

DA: Laurean set to return to United States

District Attorney says extradition appeal denied

April 15, 2009 - 6:02 PM
LINDELL KAY and JENNIFER HLAD (lkay@freedomenc.com)

A Camp Lejeune Marine accused of killing a pregnant colleague and fleeing to Mexico is expected to be returned to the U.S. by the end of the week, local and federal authorities said.
Cpl. Cesar Laurean, 22, is expected to be transferred from the custody of Mexican authorities to U.S. federal law enforcement officials shortly. He will remain in federal custody until he can be transferred to Onslow County authorities, said Maj. Cliff W. Gilmore, a spokesman for II Marine Expeditionary Force.
"Once he is back in Onslow County, we will have a first appearance and begin the trial process," said Dewey Hudson, the district attorney for the 4th Prosecutorial District, which includes Onslow County.
Laurean's attorney, Jacksonville lawyer Dick McNeil, said he is ready to get started.
"I'm relieved he will be back and we will finally get some answers about what happened," McNeil said. "I am anxious to work on the case."
McNeil said his client will enter a plea of not guilty.
Laurean - who has been in deserter status for more than a year - fought extradition back to the U.S. since his arrest in Tacambaro, Mexico, in April 2008. He had been on the lam three months, living in a rundown shack and surviving on avocados, according the Associated Press.
Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown declared an "earthwide" search for Laurean after he fled his home in mid-January 2008 as investigators zeroed in on him as a suspect in the disappearance of a coworker.
Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, 20, disappeared in mid-December 2007 and became the focus of an intense search by authorities and the media in early January 2008. On Jan. 11, 2008, authorities found the remains of her and her unborn child in a fire pit in Laurean's backyard at 103 Meadow Trail.
Laurean's wife, Marine Cpl. Christina Laurean - recently returned from a period of leave, which included a visit to see her husband in a Mexican jail - was heavily scrutinized by authorities and the media while Laurean was on the run. A raid on her sister's house by the FBI in March 2008 produced evidence that while Christina communicated with her fugitive husband, she did not aid him financially.
Although Laurean, a native Mexican, has been indicted with first-degree murder, which caries the death penalty, prosecutors had to forgo the possibility of capital punishment in order to get Mexican authorities to agree to extradition.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/laurean_63656___article.html/authorities_lauterbach.html

[sarahhod]

DP not on the table, but this is one case that I wish DP was on the table.

Shame they had to forgo this possibility to get him back.

I wouldn't expect the trial anytime soon.:madranting94dp:

[Oceanblueeyes]

DP not on the table, but this is one case that I wish DP was on the table.

Shame they had to forgo this possibility to get him back.

I wouldn't expect the trial anytime soon.:madranting94dp:

Me either. He has never even been arraigned so they have to go through all of that and then his attorney has to get with him so he can assist in his defense. I would say it probably won't happen for another 9 months to a year...maybe even more.

imo

[sarahhod]

Me either. He has never even been arraigned so they have to go through all of that and then his attorney has to get with him so he can assist in his defense. I would say it probably won't happen for another 9 months to a year...maybe even more.

imo

ITA Oceanblueeyes.

I cannot see this trial happening for at least another 12 months..

That is gonna be a real heartbreaking trial to watch if it gets shown live.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

Poor Maria and her baby.:1222423::1222423:

[sunstar]

At least he's going to be back on U.S. soil and that is good news in itself. :happy0158:

[sunstar]

I just found this update! :happy0158:

Accused Marine back in Onslow County

Posted: Apr. 17, 2009
Updated: Today at 6:24 a.m.

Jacksonville, N.C. — A Camp Lejeune Marine charged with killing a pregnant comrade returned to Onslow County on Friday, representatives with the sheriff’s office said.

Cpl. Cesar Laurean was booked around 9 p.m. inti the Onslow County Jail. He was being held without bond.

Laurean arrived back in the U.S. earlier Friday, a year after an international manhunt led to his arrest in Mexico.

Laurean was charged with first-degree murder in the December 2007 death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, whose charred remains were found a month later in a shallow grave behind his Jacksonville home.

more at: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4975050/

[sarahhod]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/4977420/

Expected first court appearance is Monday.

[sarahhod]

http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/04/17/4977024/cl-300x400.jpg


http://www.wral.com/news/local/image/4977024/?img_list=4977024%2C2298871&ref_id=4975050

[RayStar]

He deserves the DP. Wonder what ticked him off.

[sunstar]

Lauterbach’s father deploying as accused killer returns to U.S.

Updated 10:52 AM Friday, April 17, 2009
The father of slain pregnant Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach is preparing to deploy to Iraq next week as his daughter’s accused killer is being returned to the United States.

Victor Lauterbach is an Air Force Reserve master sergeant in the 87th Aerial Port Squadron, which is part of the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. The squadron is responsible for the on- and off-loading of equipment, cargo and personnel onto aircraft.

Victor Lauterbach is expected to deploy for four months. He leaves Thursday, April 23.

“I will go to the trial even if it falls during that time period,” his wife Mary Lauterbach told the Dayton Daily News Thursday.

Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean is expected back in the United States Friday to face charges of first-degree murder in the slaying of Maria Lauterbach, 20, said the Lauterbachs' attorney, Merle Wilberding.

Mary Lauterbach said she was surprised to learn the news.

“I was shocked. We had braced ourselves for a long-term wait,” she said.

Laurean was arrested in Mexico last April.

more at: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/lauterbachs-father-deploying-as-accused-killer-returns-to-us-83677.html

[SavannahStar]

I just found this update! :happy0158:

Accused Marine back in Onslow County

Posted: Apr. 17, 2009
Updated: Today at 6:24 a.m.

Jacksonville, N.C. — A Camp Lejeune Marine charged with killing a pregnant comrade returned to Onslow County on Friday, representatives with the sheriff’s office said.

Cpl. Cesar Laurean was booked around 9 p.m. inti the Onslow County Jail. He was being held without bond.

Laurean arrived back in the U.S. earlier Friday, a year after an international manhunt led to his arrest in Mexico.

Laurean was charged with first-degree murder in the December 2007 death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, whose charred remains were found a month later in a shallow grave behind his Jacksonville home.

more at: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4975050/

Amazing. Finally.

I followed this case and posted frequently on another board. Wonder if this case will heat up once again. It's very interesting.

[sunstar]

Amazing. Finally.

I followed this case and posted frequently on another board. Wonder if this case will heat up once again. It's very interesting.

It should be very interesting, imo. Remember CL saying "proof" and "I loved her"? :shrug1: MOO

[SavannahStar]

It should be very interesting, imo. Remember CL saying "proof" and "I loved her"? :shrug1: MOO

I don't remember that as much as I remember the huge hatred toward Laurean's wife, who so many believed had a hand it the murder, or at least the cover up. I didn't agree. So I was in the minority opinion and got plenty bashed over it. :parting:

[sunstar]

I don't remember that as much as I remember the huge hatred toward Laurean's wife, who so many believed had a hand it the murder, or at least the cover up. I didn't agree. So I was in the minority opinion and got plenty bashed over it. :parting:

I don't know what happened, but I do think there's a possibility she was involved. I wouldn't bash anyone though for a different opinion! :give_rose: MOO

[sunstar]

Laurean denied bond in pregnant Marine's slaying

Updated: Today at 7:05 p.m.

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — A Camp Lejeune Marine who fled to Mexico shortly before he was charged in the death of a pregnant comrade 16 months ago made his first court appearance Monday.

Cpl. Cesar Laurean was charged with first-degree murder in the December 2007 death of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, whose charred remains were found in a shallow grave behind the Jacksonville home Laurean shared with his wife and young daughter.


WATCH VIDEO
Web only: Laurean makes first court apperance

Lauterbach, 20, was seven months pregnant at the time of her death. Authorities haven't determined who fathered her child, but they plan to seek a DNA test to determine if Laurean is the father.

In addition to murder, Laurean faces charges of robbery with a dangerous weapon, financial transaction card theft, attempted financial transaction card fraud and obtaining property by false pretenses. Those charges stem from the theft of Lauterbach's bank card, which was later used to withdraw money.

During a brief court appearance Monday, Laurean told Superior Court Judge Paul Hardison that he understood the charges against him. Hardison denied bond on the murder charge and set a $5,000 bond on the other charges.

None of Laurean's or Lauterbach's relatives attended the hearing.

Laurean fled Jacksonville in January 2008, hours before Lauterbach's body was found. An international manhunt resulted in his arrest a year ago in a small town in western Mexico.

When he fled, he left behind a note in which he claimed Lauterbach had committed suicide and that he had buried her out of fear. An autopsy determined she had been beaten to death, and authorities said they found traces of blood inside Laurean's home. They have not said if it was Lauterbach's blood.

Laurean tried to fight his extradition from Mexico, but his final appeal was denied last week. He was brought back to Onslow County late Friday.

"I'm glad that Cesar Laurean is in our jail and the process of justice is underway," Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown said. "You can run, you can hide, but you cannot get away from the long arm of the law."

The death of Lauterbach and her unborn child, whom the family named Gabriel, has elicited an unprecedented level of anger among area residents, Brown said.

"It appears to me that the murder of Gabriel incites the unbelievable desire for vengeance from the people," he said.

Laurean wore a bullet-proof vest under his orange jail jumpsuit to his court hearing, authorities said.


WATCH VIDEO
Web only: Authorities discuss Laurean case

Defense attorney Dick McNeil said he would likely seek to have the trial moved from Onslow County. He cited Brown's comments about local anger over the case as evidence that extensive publicity surrounding the case would jeopardize Laurean's right to impartial jurors and a fair trial.

"We feel the loss of the Lauterbach family and we sympathize with them, but we have to be concerned about justice," he said.

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson previously agreed not to seek the death penalty against Laurean to secure his extradition from Mexico. That country has refused to send people who could be executed back to the U.S. He said Monday he was disappointed with that aspect of the case but said it wouldn't affect how he tries the case.

"They get to tell our courts what the proper punishment is for crimes in our country," he said. "I disagree with that."

McNeil said he met with Laurean for the first time Saturday and said the Marine was in good spirits and was glad to be back in Jacksonville and close to his family.

Laurean's wife, Lance Cpl. Christina Laurean, also visited him in the Onslow County Jail, McNeil said.

The Marine Corps will soon file the paperwork to issue a dishonorable discharge to Cesar Laurean for being absent without leave, McNeil said, adding that Laurean has agreed not to contest the move.

McNeil said he was eager to get the criminal case going, saying "there's a whole other side of the story that hasn't been told." Still, he said the case likely wouldn't go to trial until next year.

He said he is handling three other murder cases scheduled for trial in the next five months. Also, prosecutors are expected to hand over about 6,000 pages of evidence in the next few days, and McNeil said he needs time to review the case with Laurean.

Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson has said he would be ready to go to trial in the fall.

Laurean's next court date was set for May 18.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4985143/

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Judge: No bond for NC Marine in colleague's death


01:53 PM EDT on Monday, April 20, 2009


By KEVIN MAURER / Associated Press


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JACKSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- A judge denied bond Monday for a Marine who fled to Mexico shortly before he was charged with killing a pregnant colleague in North Carolina.
Cpl. Cesar Laurean, 22, wore a bulletproof vest under an orange jail jumpsuit as he appeared in Onslow County District Court. He replied, "Yes, sir" when Judge Paul A. Hardison asked if he understood the charges.
Before the hearing, investigators served Laurean with a search warrant seeking a DNA sample.
He was extradited from Mexico on Friday to face a first-degree murder charge in the death of 20-year-old Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach of Vandalia, Ohio.
Authorities said he fled in January 2008, shortly before Lauterbach's burned remains were found buried in his backyard in Jacksonville. Investigators believe she was killed the month before
~Complete story at link~

[sunstar]

Cesar Laurean arraignment delayed

Published: May 14, 2009

Cesar Laurean’s next court date has been pushed back.

The State and the defense agreed to reschedule the Marine’s arraignment from May 18 to June 8 in Onslow County Superior Court. Laurean is charged with first degree murder for the death of fellow Marine LCpl. Maria Lauterbach, who was pregnant at the time. Prosecutors say Laurean burned her body and burried it in a shallow grave in the backyard of his Onslow County home.

Investigators say Laurean fled to Mexico and was caught by authorities there. He spent nearly a year in a Mexican jail before being extradited back the United States in April. Laurean’s first court appearance was April 20. He was denied bond.

Laurean is expected to plead not guilty at his arraignment.

http://www.wnct.com/nct/news/local/article/cesar_laurean_arraignment_delayed/37320/

[Harmony]

Cesar Laurean arraignment delayed

Published: May 14, 2009

Cesar Laurean’s next court date has been pushed back.

The State and the defense agreed to reschedule the Marine’s arraignment from May 18 to June 8 in Onslow County Superior Court. Laurean is charged with first degree murder for the death of fellow Marine LCpl. Maria Lauterbach, who was pregnant at the time. Prosecutors say Laurean burned her body and burried it in a shallow grave in the backyard of his Onslow County home.

Investigators say Laurean fled to Mexico and was caught by authorities there. He spent nearly a year in a Mexican jail before being extradited back the United States in April. Laurean’s first court appearance was April 20. He was denied bond.

Laurean is expected to plead not guilty at his arraignment.

http://www.wnct.com/nct/news/local/article/cesar_laurean_arraignment_delayed/37320/

<SIGH> The wheels of justice have turned very slowly in this case. :zm1:

[sunstar]

<SIGH> The wheels of justice have turned very slowly in this case. :zm1:

I know. I wish there had been an explanation for the delay. :frown:

[LaciBlue]

:give_rose:
I AM JUST HAPPY THAT HE WAS ARRESTED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE US.
BUT I DO HAVE A ? HE WAS CHARGED WITH 1ST DEGREE MURDER FOR THE ALLEGED MURDER OF HIS PREGNANT GF.DOES ANY ONE KNOW IF HE WILL GET A SECOND 1ST DEGREE CHARGE FOR THE DEATH OF THE UNBORN CHILD.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE SHOULD BUT THAT IS JMO.
MAY MARIA AND HER BABY NOW REST IN PEACE...
GOD BLESS....

[Harmony]

:give_rose:
I AM JUST HAPPY THAT HE WAS ARRESTED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE US.
BUT I DO HAVE A ? HE WAS CHARGED WITH 1ST DEGREE MURDER FOR THE ALLEGED MURDER OF HIS PREGNANT GF.DOES ANY ONE KNOW IF HE WILL GET A SECOND 1ST DEGREE CHARGE FOR THE DEATH OF THE UNBORN CHILD.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE SHOULD BUT THAT IS JMO.
MAY MARIA AND HER BABY NOW REST IN PEACE...
GOD BLESS....

Welcome to HFTM Laci!!

No fetal homicide law in NC

VIDEO: http://www.wwaytv3.com/video/no_fetal_homicide_law_in_nc/01

http://www.wwaytv3.com/no_fetal_homicide_law_in_nc/01/2008

JACKSONVILLE -- The recent murdered Marine case has raised questions about North Carolina laws regarding the death of a fetus.

Corporal Cesar Armando Laurean faces charges for the murder of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, but not of her unborn baby.

Currently there are no fetal homicide laws in North Carolina. Representative Carolyn Justice (R-16th) is among the state lawmakers who think Lauterbach's killer should be charged with two murders - hers and her child's. Rep. Justice said, "This baby very probably would have lived if she had delivered. so he in essence did kill two people."

Justice supports an unborn victims of violence bill that didn't make it to the general assembly in 2007. It's a bill State Senator Julia Boseman Opposes. Boseman said, "First-degree murder is going to give him life imprisonment or the death penalty. They're going to go away forever or die and adding another charge to it is not going to make them die twice or spend two lives in prison."

Justice said people get reduced sentences too often and a fetal homicide bill would help prevent that. "Many of us felt that if you also could be convicted or tried for the death of the fetus, that you would probably get a guarantee that these people would serve some serious time," she said.

Gubernatorial candidate Bill Graham said if he is elected, he will aggressively pursue a fetal homicide bill. Senator Boseman said she thinks it's a way for pro-life candidates, like graham, to make headlines. She said, "This is looked at as a back door way of going in and taking away a woman's right to choose and right now the general assembly supports a woman's right to choose, many of us do and given the makeup I don't think a bill like that would have any chance right now."

Justice said the bill she supports isn't about abortion and it's about serving justice in cases similar to that of Maria Lauterbach.

In 2004 President Bush signed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act into law. Under federal law, any person who causes death or injury to a child in the womb can be charged with a separate offense, in addition to any charges relating to the mother. At least 35 states recognize the unborn child as a crime victim in some circumstances.

[Harmony]

I think the Unborn Victim's of Violence Act was instigated because of Laci Peterson's fetus Connor.

[sunstar]

AP: Laurean not father of slain Marine's child

Posted: Today at 3:13 p.m.
Updated: Today at 6:04 p.m.

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. — Documents obtained by The Associated Press show that a former Camp Lejeune Marine charged with killing a pregnant comrade wasn't the father of her unborn child.

In a report completed by the Department of Defense Armed Forces Institute of Pathology on May 7, DNA analysts concluded that former Cpl. Cesar Laurean was not the father of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's child.

Lauterbach, 20, was about seven months pregnant when she died in late 2007. Her charred remains were found in January 2008 in a shallow grave behind Laurean's Jacksonville home.

She told Navy investigators that she was raped by Laurean in 2007, but she later recanted. Investigators couldn't corroborate her story, but they planned to proceed with a full investigation of the allegations before her disappearance in December 2007.

Camp Lejeune officials said Friday that Laurean was separated from the service Wednesday.

Base spokesman Maj. Cliff Gilmore wrote in an e-mail that the Marine Corps would not release the reason for Laurean's discharge "in accordance with the Privacy Act."

more at: http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/5155972/

[Nut44x4]

http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?s=11640926&clienttype=printable

Updated: Dec 08, 2009 11:19 AM EST
ONSLOW COUNTY, NC (WECT) - The 22-year-old former Marine accused of killing a pregnant colleague is expected in a North Carolina courtroom Monday afternoon for pretrial motions.

Cesar Laurean is charged with the first degree murder in the death of 20-year-old Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach in 2007.

Lauterbach's burned body was found buried in a pit behind Laurean's house.

Lauren fled to Mexico just before being indicted for the murder. He was on the run for several months, but was caught in April 2008.

Prosecutors agreed to take the death penalty off the table as part of the extradition agreement with Mexico.

Laurean is charged with first degree murder, financial card transaction fraud, and obtaining property by false pretenses.

[LiveLaughLuv]

In a report completed by the Department of Defense Armed Forces Institute of Pathology on May 7, DNA analysts concluded that former Cpl. Cesar Laurean was not the father of Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's child.

Lauterbach, 20, was about seven months pregnant when she died in late 2007. Her charred remains were found in January 2008 in a shallow grave behind Laurean's Jacksonville home.

She told Navy investigators that she was raped by Laurean in 2007, but she later recanted. Investigators couldn't corroborate her story, but they planned to proceed with a full investigation of the allegations before her disappearance in December 2007.

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Lauren should have not acted so impulsively...he might have been exonerated from this entire fiasco had he just waited until Maria had her baby and then do a paternity test...she did recant her allegations of rape...:groan:

[Nut44x4]

Trial date set for Cesar Laurean; trial to move to another county

Updated 3:21 PM Tuesday, December 8, 2009

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — A North Carolina judge has ruled that the trial of a 22-year-old former Marine accused of killing Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach of Vandalia will be held outside the county where authorities say it occurred.

Onslow County Superior Court Judge Charles Henry ruled Tuesday, Dec. 8, that the trial of Cesar Laurean should be moved. District Attorney Dewey Hudson said it would be best for him and defense attorney Dick McNeil to move the trial.

Henry set a trial date of June 28, 2010, although that date depends on where the trial is moved. Both sides have until Dec. 18 to file suggestions on a potential trial location.

Laurean is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Lauterbach, 20. The pregnant Marine’s burned body was found buried behind Laurean’s house.

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/crime/trial-date-set-for-cesar-laurean-trial-to-move-to-another-county-438897.html?printArticle=y

[sunstar]

I just pray the trial doesn't get postponed any longer. It's already two years since Maria and her baby were murdered. :1222423:

[LiveLaughLuv]

I've been wondering why the military are not trying Laurean?

Didn't this happen on military grounds? Maria was on active duty as was Laurean, weren't they?

[annalyzer]

I've been wondering why the military are not trying Laurean?

Didn't this happen on military grounds? Maria was on active duty as was Laurean, weren't they?


I don't know. Good question. Maybe because the crime isn't military related as in a war crime or awol or something?

[SavannahStar]

I've been wondering why the military are not trying Laurean?

Didn't this happen on military grounds? Maria was on active duty as was Laurean, weren't they?

This is a start to answering that question. It's an old article; maybe there is more info since then. I used to follow this case VERY closely, on another board. Maybe news will heat up again.

Laurean e-mail to sheriff asks for immunity from military prosecution

Cesar Laurean sent an e-mail to Sheriff Ed Brown almost two weeks before he was captured in Mexico, asking whether Brown could provide immunity from military prosecution if Laurean returned to Onslow County.

"I know they will convict me with no evidence, I can't risk Leavenworth or a chain gang," Laurean wrote in the e-mail sent March 30. The e-mail was traced by authorities to the region in Mexico where Laurean was arrested Thursday, Brown said.

(SNIP)

Brown replied to the e-mail, saying he felt compelled to be honest and could not guarantee immunity, but "turning yourself in would be a positive step, the wisest thing you could do."

http://www.jdnews.com/news/happen-56005-coordinated-effort.html

[sunstar]

I've been wondering why the military are not trying Laurean?

Didn't this happen on military grounds? Maria was on active duty as was Laurean, weren't they?

Maria's remains were found in Laurean's back yard, which wasn't on-base.

[sunstar]

Family Of Maria Lauterbach Sues For Wrongful Death

The family of a slain Marine lance corporal has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the 22-year-old former Marine accused of killing her.

The wrongful death suit was filed in Onslow County on Monday on the two-year anniversary of 20-year-old Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's disappearance.

more at http://news.mync.com/site/news/story/45720/family-of-maria-lauterbach-sues-for-wrongful-death/

[Oceanblueeyes]

I've been wondering why the military are not trying Laurean?

Didn't this happen on military grounds? Maria was on active duty as was Laurean, weren't they?

Good Morning LLL,

No, this crime occurred out in the town of Jacksonville at Laurean's personally owned property. The Sheriff's department and DA Hudson has jurisdiction........not the Marine base. Nothing ever happened between the two of them while either one was on base after the MPO was enacted.

The military hardly ever intervenes in a State case where the acts weren't on a military base. Their investigators (NIC) will work with the local DA but they do not take the case from them.

Had it happened on base then yes, the military would have tried him. Just like they are going to do Major Hasan because his murders and attempted murders happen on the base at Ft. Hood.

I guess the one nagging question I will always have about this case is why they both broke the MPO that eventful tragic day. I hope that "why" is answered but it may never be unless Laurean testifies, which I find doubtful.

We know that DA Hudson doesn't have evidence of a kidnapping for if he did he would have charged Laurean in a NY minute with that offense also and he didn't.

imo

[Oceanblueeyes]

Family Of Maria Lauterbach Sues For Wrongful Death

The family of a slain Marine lance corporal has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the 22-year-old former Marine accused of killing her.

The wrongful death suit was filed in Onslow County on Monday on the two-year anniversary of 20-year-old Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach's disappearance.

more at http://news.mync.com/site/news/story/45720/family-of-maria-lauterbach-sues-for-wrongful-death/

I can understand their desire to do this but this defendant doesn't have two nickels to rub together. He has been declared indigent.

But the civil case will be held after the criminal proceedings and all he has to do, I guess, is not appear and it will automatically be won by the Lauterbachs.

imo

[LiveLaughLuv]

Good Morning LLL,

No, this crime occurred out in the town of Jacksonville at Laurean's personally owned property. The Sheriff's department and DA Hudson has jurisdiction........not the Marine base. Nothing ever happened between the two of them while either one was on base after the MPO was enacted.

The military hardly ever intervenes in a State case where the acts weren't on a military base. Their investigators (NIC) will work with the local DA but they do not take the case from them.

Had it happened on base then yes, the military would have tried him. Just like they are going to do Major Hasan because his murders and attempted murders happen on the base at Ft. Hood.

I guess the one nagging question I will always have about this case is why they both broke the MPO that eventful tragic day. I hope that "why" is answered but it may never be unless Laurean testifies, which I find doubtful.

We know that DA Hudson doesn't have evidence of a kidnapping for if he did he would have charged Laurean in a NY minute with that offense also and he didn't.

imo

Thanks Ocean for that explanation...I always thought since they were both military personnell, the military would take charge..doesn't matter, either way, as long as justice is served for Maria and her unborn child..:give_rose:

As far as the civil wrongful death lawsuit...it's a statement of sorts...The family will not be able to collect a dime, if he's found guilty at the criminal trial so it's about taking a stand, I guess...

Even OJ got away with paying the Goldmans...they can attach his wages probably but OJ isn't working and won't be working for a long time...but he's got monetary value with his memorablia..Laurean hasn't got anything as far as we know..