April 15 Trial Thread

[Roamer]

:mornincoffee:

[lost indie]

Good morning...

:0012:

thanks for the new thread...

do you know if JP is done or will he be back today?

[Roamer]

Found this while looking for something else this morning. If it's already been posted, someone please PM me and I'll delete it.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/15813723/detail.html

WAYNE COUNTY, Mich. -- WAYNE COUNTY, Mich. -- Testimony continued Monday in the trial of Jean Pierre Orlewicz, accused in the so-called "thrill kill" slaying of Daniel Sorensen, with the defendant breaking down in tears for the first time since the trial began, but jailhouse tapes revealing a darker side to the defendant.

Orlewicz, 18, of Plymouth Township is charged with first-degree murder and the dismemberment of Sorensen.

He took the stand and described how he killed Sorensen in an act that he's claiming as self-defense.



"I said, 'Dan, don't,' " Orlewicz testified. "And he looked at me from the corner of his eye and he straightened out his arm like he was going to shoot Alex right in the face and I kind of grabbed him with my left arm and stabbed him in the back at the same time."

Orlewicz was asked how he felt as he was killing Sorensen.

"I was freaking out when we first were doing it," Orlewicz said. "Then I just decided that if I didn't do something now that it would be too late later to try and do anything. So I just kind of, like, made a decision and went with it."

Family friend Janice Neal, testified first on behalf of Orlewicz. She called him a "warm and caring person." Orlewicz became very emotional during Neal's testimony as she described that he was a sweet kid who she considered a friend.

Orlewicz's father, William, also took the stand on Monday to talk about his son. He said he is not aggressive, he was never in trouble and overall a good kid. He said he was not aware that his son drank or used drugs.

"It seems so far out of character that it's hard to believe," said William Orlewicz about the allegations.

Prosecutor Robert Moran played several taped phone conversations from jail between Orlewicz and his father hoping to show the defendant had anger issues. Several times throughout the tape, Orlewicz swore excessively and became very angry at his parents and their choice for an attorney for him. Moran said the tapes showed Orlewicz did talk to his son about the case after his father had claimed he had not.

"I'm not even going to court if I don't have a 90 percent chance that I’m walking out of the courtroom. … What's the (expletive) point. There's no point."

School friends also testified on Monday about Orlewicz's MySpace page and the video games he played, including Grand Theft Auto.

Orlewicz took the stand around 2:15 p.m. on Monday and testified how he knew Daniel Sorensen. In his testimony he said, "He threatened me. He was going to kill my girlfriend, my brother and my family."

He described Sorensen as pushy and bossy. He said he thought Sorensen was part of organized crime. Orlewicz talked about how they lured Sorensen to his grandfather's house to extort money from another person and said he never intended to steal money or kill Sorensen.

Orlewicz told the court that Sorensen pulled a gun on him when he thought the plan had gone wrong. Orlewicz said he feared for his life and that is why he killed Sorensen.

He said he did not jump Sorensen from behind nor slash his throat as previous testimony showed.

Orlewicz said he thought Sorensen's family was going to come and kill him because "I just killed Dan," he told the court.

Orlewicz admitted to cutting Sorensen's body into several pieces after panicking. He also admitted during testimony that he burned his fingertips.

"I didn't want anyone to be able to ID him," Orlewicz said.

[Try2Win]

The trial of Jean Pierre Orlewicz

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/NEWS02/80408066&template=theme&theme=THRILLKILL042008

click on the comments also, very intersting....

[PatC]

Blast it, I had to work yesterday and missed the kid's testimony! Gotta work today too. :(

Anybody know if a tape of him testifying is available yet?

[TigressPen]

I couldn't believe how JP told his story of how the murder happened, his voice quickened like he was reading a script of a published work and telling it from someone looking down and seeing it all take place. It was surreal. And my stomach knotted. This kid is as cold as they come, he had no remorse in his voice, didn't care that a man was dead.

[lost indie]

Blast it, I had to work yesterday and missed the kid's testimony! Gotta work today too. :(

Anybody know if a tape of him testifying is available yet?

There's a bunch of stuff on youtube...

:0012:

[TigressPen]

Blast it, I had to work yesterday and missed the kid's testimony! Gotta work today too. :(

Anybody know if a tape of him testifying is available yet?



I haven't checked for it but YouTube may have it up. It was unbelieveable. The Pros rattled him.

[sciencegirl]

Good morning my fellow peeps :0012:

I cannot express to you my sincere and heartfelt disapointment that JP will not be on the stand today. :67302:

[gramvof14]

Blast it, I had to work yesterday and missed the kid's testimony! Gotta work today too. :(

Anybody know if a tape of him testifying is available yet?
Morning PatC :mornincoffee:here is the pros cross video:shock:


http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=VIDEO01

[gramvof14]

Morning everyone:mornincoffee: I have to get a few things done and then I will be back.:happy0207:

[wi_twin_mom]

Morning!

A little reminder for you...

The 48 Hours show about the Jensen case will be on tonight on CBS at 10/9 central time. Join us for a chat during the show!

[bambam]

Blast it, I had to work yesterday and missed the kid's testimony! Gotta work today too. :(

Anybody know if a tape of him testifying is available yet?


:mornincoffee: morning peeps!

didn't i see a post with a youtube vid of the charming JP on yesterday's thread? i'm pretty sure i did. ya might wanna check there

[tbrito1]

:mornincoffee: everyone! so that's it, no more jp? is court to resume at 9:00 for closing arguments?

[TigressPen]

:mornincoffee: everyone! so that's it, no more jp? is court to resume at 9:00 for closing arguments?



I thought the defense was going to call the good Dr. back to the stand. But, closing arguments is fine with me. JP deliberately murdered DS and would do it again and IMO it's time to send him to prison for life. If he thinks he will get away with just 10 years or less, then he is in for an eyeopener. I hope.

[bambam]

Morning!

A little reminder for you...

The 48 Hours show about the Jensen case will be on tonight on CBS at 10/9 central time. Join us for a chat during the show!

cool! thanks! :basic44:

[sciencegirl]

I thought the defense was going to call the good Dr. back to the stand. But, closing arguments is fine with me. JP deliberately murdered DS and would do it again and IMO it's time to send him to prison for life. If he thinks he will get away with just 10 years or less, then he is in for an eyeopener. I hope.

That was my understanding also about the Dr. But, I'm wondering if they changed their mind. It seems that JP would be scheduled to be the last witness to testify; which he did.

Also, the defense did not rest their case yesterday. I'm kinda thinking they will rest first thing this morning.

[sciencegirl]

As soon as someone gets a live feed; could you let us know and link us? TIA :basic44:

[SLSmith]

:mornincoffee: morning peeps!

didn't i see a post with a youtube vid of the charming JP on yesterday's thread? i'm pretty sure i did. ya might wanna check there

JP's testinony on UT.

Clips: 4/14 - #17
thru
4/14 - #31

http://www.youtube.com/user/RealityCanBeEvil

[PatC]

I'm going to miss another (the last?) day of testimony. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g258/PatC_pics/smilies/ad5122cc.gif

[bambam]

JP's testinony on UT.

Clips: 4/14 - #17
thru
4/14 - #31

http://www.youtube.com/user/RealityCanBeEvil

thanks, SL!

[PatC]

JP's testinony on UT.

Clips: 4/14 - #17
thru
4/14 - #31

http://www.youtube.com/user/RealityCanBeEvil

THANK YOU! :1222423:

I'll watch when I get home from work.

[sciencegirl]

Jean C. just said the jurors took no notes during JP's testimony. Jean also said that some of the jurors sat back in their chair's like "ok; big guy, you tell us your story". (those are my words) As if the jurors weren't going to believe a word he said. Jean did an actual imitation of the jurors; which I tried to explain above.

[TigressPen]

Morning!

A little reminder for you...

The 48 Hours show about the Jensen case will be on tonight on CBS at 10/9 central time. Join us for a chat during the show!



Another one who could care less about another human beings life. I thought the another ethylene glycol murder trial was going to go to court last month too but the day they were scheduled for opening statements, defense medical expert had a medical emergency and had to be hospitalized. So, the OS didn't happen and the jury was dismissed. Court was postponed until June. Her name is Julie too.

[bambam]

LINKS to live online streaming video of the trial:

http://media.myfoxdetroit.com/streaming/mylive2.html

http://cnn.com/live

http://cnn.com/CRIME

http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/15825002/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/15834619/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/sh/fl...ector:38614.asx

http://mfile.akamai.com/25237/live

http://mfile.akamai.com/12942/live/reflector:38614.asx


__________________

i stole these from lynn gweeny! heehee! thanks lynn!

[Try2Win]

Morning everyone:mornincoffee: I have to get a few things done and then I will be back.:happy0207:

GM

I did my errands this morning: CVS, Krogers, & Meijers to buy JUNO the DVD just released today.

All is good in my world. :basic44:

I decided not to go to court today and will wait to see how things develope today with the possibility of going to this trial tomorrow. no promises.

[Try2Win]

I thought the defense was going to call the good Dr. back to the stand. But, closing arguments is fine with me. JP deliberately murdered DS and would do it again and IMO it's time to send him to prison for life. If he thinks he will get away with just 10 years or less, then he is in for an eyeopener. I hope.

i think they will still call the dr. back and possibly that other friend who was the look out the day before the actual murder. jmo

[tbrito1]

LINKS to live online streaming video of the trial:

http://media.myfoxdetroit.com/streaming/mylive2.html

http://cnn.com/live

http://cnn.com/CRIME

http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/15825002/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/15834619/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/sh/fl...ector:38614.asx

http://mfile.akamai.com/25237/live

http://mfile.akamai.com/12942/live/reflector:38614.asx


__________________

i stole these from lynn gweeny! heehee! thanks lynn!

wow, i was pretty impressed by you for a minute:grin:

[mollybrown]

GM

I did my errands this morning: CVS, Krogers, & Meijers to buy JUNO the DVD just released today.

All is good in my world. :basic44:

I decided not to go to court today and will wait to see how things develope today with the possibility of going to this trial tomorrow. no promises.


I loved the movie Juno :happy0158:

Morning ALL :howdy:

[tbrito1]

I loved the movie Juno :happy0158:

Morning ALL :howdy:

morning Molly! Isn't Juno like a Yahoo?:0009:

[Try2Win]

I loved the movie Juno :happy0158:

Morning ALL :howdy:


me too, the best movie i have seen this year so far.

[mollybrown]

morning Molly! Isn't Juno like a Yahoo?:0009:

Silly YOU http://www.foxsearchlight.com/juno/

[Try2Win]

JP ratted out his bud IGGY big time. pay back i guess. :rolleye0001:

[mollybrown]

I missed all the testimoney after TTV went off the air yesterday. How did JP come off on cross?

[sciencegirl]

I missed all the testimoney after TTV went off the air yesterday. How did JP come off on cross?

Like the lying piece of carp he is. TTV is showing the replay of the cross right now; and it's just as good as it was yesterday. :grin: PATHETIC!!!

[Try2Win]

09:30 a.m. ET - Tue April 15
'THRILL KILL' TRIAL
Jean Pierre Orlewicz is charged with first-degree murder in the stabbing, beheading and burning of Daniel Sorensen in what prosecutors have called a thrill killing.

http://www.cnn.com/live/

[TigressPen]

JP ratted out his bud IGGY big time. pay back i guess. :rolleye0001:



It was Izzy (Isam Ayyash) Isam was my grandfathers name so this one stuck with me.

[mollybrown]

Thanks SG I'm watching TTV, but I didn't know if this was the whole cross or creative editing.

[StoneFox]

Jean C. just said the jurors took no notes during JP's testimony. Jean also said that some of the jurors sat back in their chair's like "ok; big guy, you tell us your story". (those are my words) As if the jurors weren't going to believe a word he said. Jean did an actual imitation of the jurors; which I tried to explain above.

I can understand not taking notes. They would have started with the first two sentences, then marked through them to note JP's change in story. Their notebook would have been cross through on every other line. I missed Jean's interpretation of the jurors. I bet they are sitting there waiting for him to explain why it was necessary to cut the guy's head off in self-defense.

Good Morning Poster Pals :0012: :mornincoffee:

[SLSmith]

Big time. Izzy Confessional as channeled by JP.

"No one was safe" to JP whilst he was on the stand.

[Try2Win]

Like the lying piece of carp he is. TTV is showing the replay of the cross right now; and it's just as good as it was yesterday. :grin: PATHETIC!!!

I loved how Mr. Moran mentioned that if Dan pointed a gun at Alex, wouldn't that help Alex's case?

I thought the same thing, why would Alex take a plea to 2nd degree murder if he was threatened by Dan with a gun???

[sciencegirl]

Thanks SG I'm watching TTV, but I didn't know if this was the whole cross or creative editing.

There's a link in one of the posts above with the entire cross. Truly worth watching.:happy0207:

[StoneFox]

I missed all the testimoney after TTV went off the air yesterday. How did JP come off on cross?

a smug little brat who is used to getting his way no matter what. JMO

[Try2Win]

I can understand not taking notes. They would have started with the first two sentences, then marked through them to note JP's change in story. Their notebook would have been cross through on every other line. I missed Jean's interpretation of the jurors. I bet they are sitting there waiting for him to explain why it was necessary to cut the guy's head off in self-defense.

Good Morning Poster Pals :0012: :mornincoffee:

notice how none of alex's friends looked at the jury, but jp was always looking over to them?

[sciencegirl]

a smug little brat who is used to getting his way no matter what. JMO

Exactly. And a smug little brat that thinks the story he told yesterday is totally believable by this jury.

[StoneFox]

notice how none of alex's friends looked at the jury, but jp was always looking over to them?

hmmm...so that might show humility and embarrassment on the friend's part but nothing like that from JP.

Thanks for pointing that out Try2!

Did you decide to not go to court today?

[IfIMay]

http://media.myfoxdetroit.com/streaming/mylive2.html

Got the courtroom, but hearing commercials still.

[sciencegirl]

notice how none of alex's friends looked at the jury, but jp was always looking over to them?

I'm glad you mentioned that. I noticed it yesterday also; but was trying to post at the same time. But watching today on TTV; he sure did make eye contact with the jury at every possible moment. Almost batting his eyes and looking so innocent as he told his lies. Course, I'm sure his attorney told him to look at the jury when he answers questions.

[mollybrown]

There's a link in one of the posts above with the entire cross. Truly worth watching.:happy0207:

Thanks SG, I have to head out to work in a little bit. I'll see if I can find time later. In any event it sounds like I don't need a lesson on lying 101 :grin:

[Try2Win]

hmmm...so that might show humility and embarrassment on the friend's part but nothing like that from JP.

Thanks for pointing that out Try2!

Did you decide to not go to court today?

yeah, i may go tomorrow but no promises. :22wink:

[dojewo]

Morning!

A little reminder for you...

The 48 Hours show about the Jensen case will be on tonight on CBS at 10/9 central time. Join us for a chat during the show!Morning all, :howdy:I hope to be here for the chat.

[sciencegirl]

We're Live

[sciencegirl]

Looks like the defense is going to rest. They are taking care of business right now.

[mollybrown]

Looks like the defense is going to rest. They are taking care of business right now.


You call that a DEFENSE! :shock:

[sciencegirl]

You call that a DEFENSE! :shock:

:67302: You got me on that one!!

[Try2Win]

There is a good chance that this case will be deliberated today and a verdict reached. :shock:

[dojewo]

You call that a DEFENSE! :shock:It sure wasn't much of a defense

[mollybrown]

This cross is hysterical. :67302:

I forgot that DS said he would kill my family so when he stopped me I didn't want to be rude and ignore him. So we hung out again. :67302:

[sciencegirl]

There is a good chance that this case will be deliberated today and a verdict reached. :shock:

You took the words right out of my mouth. I was just going to post that. :)

[sciencegirl]

This cross is hysterical. :67302:

I forgot that DS said he would kill my family so when he stopped me I didn't want to be rude and ignore him. So we hung out again. :67302:

:67302: It's priceless!!!! Totally priceless!!!

[kindee]

Morning!

A little reminder for you...

The 48 Hours show about the Jensen case will be on tonight on CBS at 10/9 central time. Join us for a chat during the show!




Hey, good to see you WTM! I'll sure try and remember to watch that---

:mornincoffee: all! Are we ready for a verdict today? :basic44: I can't imagine this jury will take very long once they get the case.

[mollybrown]

He is really snotty on the stand. :71541:

[StoneFox]

There is a good chance that this case will be deliberated today and a verdict reached. :shock:

I wondered about that. I'm thinking a quick verdict on this one too.
I will probably miss the majority of live coverage today. Too many real life things to take care of.

[dojewo]

Hey, good to see you WTM! I'll sure try and remember to watch that---

:mornincoffee: all! Are we ready for a verdict today? :basic44: I can't imagine this jury will take very long once they get the case.I don't see them taking to long on this either. I don't see them coming up with anything other then Guilty

[TigressPen]

Hey, good to see you WTM! I'll sure try and remember to watch that---

:mornincoffee: all! Are we ready for a verdict today? :basic44: I can't imagine this jury will take very long once they get the case.



The delibs may take longer since they have lesser degree to consider.

[StoneFox]

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg238/gramvof14/Tantrum.gif

gram found this pic yesterday, which i think perfectly depicts jp!


thanks again gram :howdy:

[SLSmith]

I thought JP looked like he was going to fall asleep @ certain points towards end of his testimony.

[sciencegirl]

See; this is what takes these jurors so long to reach a verdict. They have so many nonsensical instructions. Just put down Premediated Murder and be done with it.

[Try2Win]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/Try2Win/JP.jpg

[kindee]

The delibs may take longer since they have lesser degree to consider.




yeah.....I somehow doubt this jury has much to argue about. But man, you can sure never tell with a jury!

[Cat]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i258/Tabatha_05/Good%20Morning/1abcd20289629.gif

[mollybrown]

yeah.....I somehow doubt this jury has much to argue about. But man, you can sure never tell with a jury!

Scary but true. :eyebrow1qb:

[kindee]

I don't see them taking to long on this either. I don't see them coming up with anything other then Guilty




I can't imagine them wasting much time on ol' J.P. Orlewicz here. He sealed his own fate yesterday imo. But you never know...there might be a stealth wacko on board. I can't see it, though.

:mornincoffee: Do and all! I have bad cobwebs in the brain this a.m.

helllllllllo Cat! Cute cute cute avatar today!

[dojewo]

I can't imagine them wasting much time on ol' J.P. Orlewicz here. He sealed his own fate yesterday imo. But you never know...there might be a stealth wacko on board. I can't see it, though.

:mornincoffee: Do and all! I have bad cobwebs in the brain this a.m.

helllllllllo Cat! Cute cute cute avatar today!
Late night last night Kindee? How did the class go?

[TigressPen]

yeah.....I somehow doubt this jury has much to argue about. But man, you can sure never tell with a jury!




I just hope they don't add to many either/ors in there and create dissidence on which verdict is appropriate in the jurors minds and a mistrial is declared.

[Cat]

I can't imagine them wasting much time on ol' J.P. Orlewicz here. He sealed his own fate yesterday imo. But you never know...there might be a stealth wacko on board. I can't see it, though.

:mornincoffee: Do and all! I have bad cobwebs in the brain this a.m.

helllllllllo Cat! Cute cute cute avatar today!

Thank you. That is Purrcy, our 17 pounder, but he looks smaller on that picture.

I missed you all yesterday, but I had a good day anyway.

[tbrito1]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/Try2Win/JP.jpg

:67302::022:

[gramvof14]

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg238/gramvof14/Tantrum.gif

gram found this pic yesterday, which i think perfectly depicts jp!


thanks again gram :howdy:
YW Stony goodmorning :mornincoffee:I am running around here trying to get things done and my sons are comming over this afternoon, hope they come in with a verdict today, as far as I am concerned it should only take them about 10 minutes to pick a foreman and take a vote.that evil kid needs to go to prison for the rest of his life.:71541::duh::doh:

[TigressPen]

So all that arguing over where the throat was cut and right to recall the doc was for naught -- defense is going to rest.

[Try2Win]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll249/Try2Win/JP.jpg

This is where I found this:

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/684475/Boy_Changes_Murder_Plea_to_Hitman_Made_Me_Do_It.ht ml

[sciencegirl]

Next to Judge Fidler; I'd have to say this is one of my all-time favorite judges. I just love her. Intelligent, confident, can control a courtroom; but is also sweet. JMO, of course.

[bambam]

what happened? i just got back. did they do closings already??????

[Cat]

YW Stony goodmorning :mornincoffee:I am running around here trying to get things done and my sons are comming over this afternoon, hope they come in with a verdict today, as far as I am concerned it should only take them about 10 minutes to pick a foreman and take a vote.that evil kid needs to go to prison for the rest of his life.:71541::duh::doh:

Hi gram. Much as I hate the thought of a young person losing their whole life, I have to agree on this one. I don't think there is any rehabilitating for people like this. So sad.

[Try2Win]

Next to Judge Fidler; I'd have to say this is one of my all-time favorite judges. I just love her. Intelligent, confident, can control a courtroom; but is also sweet. JMO, of course.

She sure is prettier than Fidler. JMO

[Cat]

Next to Judge Fidler; I'd have to say this is one of my all-time favorite judges. I just love her. Intelligent, confident, can control a courtroom; but is also sweet. JMO, of course.

And beautiful, too; what more could you ask?

:love0085: SG

[Try2Win]

what happened? i just got back. did they do closings already??????

closings in about 5 minutes....

[Cat]

what happened? i just got back. did they do closings already??????

I'm not sure, bam. I just got here a while ago. :love0085: bambam

Oh, and your favorite: :francis:

[Cat]

closings in about 5 minutes....

Thanks, Try. :)

[sciencegirl]

And beautiful, too; what more could you ask?

:love0085: SG

That's a given!!! She's gorgeous:)

[Cat]

That's a given!!! She's gorgeous:)

I'd love to look like her, but since I can't, I just will have to love me the way I am.

[sciencegirl]

She sure is prettier than Fidler. JMO

Try; what is this judge's name? Does she preside over high-profile type crimes in this county? What is her reputation in the community. TIA.

[StoneFox]

YW Stony goodmorning :mornincoffee:I am running around here trying to get things done and my sons are comming over this afternoon, hope they come in with a verdict today, as far as I am concerned it should only take them about 10 minutes to pick a foreman and take a vote.that evil kid needs to go to prison for the rest of his life.:71541::duh::doh:

Good Morning gram :mornincoffee:
I agree, this kid should go away like Manson. In my book, he has the same character as Manson.

[sciencegirl]

I'd love to look like her, but since I can't, I just will have to love me the way I am.

:love0085: We all love you the way you are :love0085:

[bambam]

Try; what is this judge's name? Does she preside over high-profile type crimes in this county? What is her reputation in the community. TIA.

annette berry

[sciencegirl]

Good Morning gram :mornincoffee:
I agree, this kid should go away like Manson. In my book, he has the same character as Manson.

JP could be Manson's son.

AND, WE"RE OFF!!! CLOSING ARGUMENTS!!!

[gramvof14]

Hi gram. Much as I hate the thought of a young person losing their whole life, I have to agree on this one. I don't think there is any rehabilitating for people like this. So sad.
Morning Cat how are you feeling today???:love0085:

[kindee]

Late night last night Kindee? How did the class go?




YES, we were at school until after 11 p.m.! Interviews of the 9 witnesses and/or suspects. One of our team members (of 6) didn't show.

It was WILD. You know those suspects just wouldn't co-operate! :girl_haha:

[Cat]

:love0085: We all love you the way you are :love0085:

Oh, thank you, SG. You're sweet. :love0085:

My daughter always says I'm beautiful, but she's prejudiced.

[kindee]

what happened? i just got back. did they do closings already??????




Dang, Bam, you have perfect timing!

Right into closings...:hifive:

[kindee]

Oh, thank you, SG. You're sweet. :love0085:

My daughter always says I'm beautiful, but she's prejudiced.



You're the tops!!!!! :love0085: Beauty is as beauty does, imo, and you are specTACULAR! :howdy:


Is this a sandwich closing? Does the pros get to go twice?

JP looks especially evil this lovely morning.

[Cat]

Morning Cat how are you feeling today???:love0085:

Much better, thank you. :love0085: I think I'm almost at 95% now. I actually did great singing on our job yesterday. It was fun.

[bambam]

OT---- i posted this on the WM3 thread.... but will post here too, in case anyone is interested.....



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hearing Set for Men Convicted in 1993 WM Slayings
Apr 14, 2008 at 6:28 PM
MyFoxMemphis

http://wm3.vox.com/library/post/hear...-slayings.html

[Try2Win]

Try; what is this judge's name? Does she preside over high-profile type crimes in this county? What is her reputation in the community. TIA.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+annette+berry

i am not familiar with this judge, this being the first time watching her in court. i do believe she is married to a man from the middle east because i went to school with people of the last name berry and they were arabics. i also found a link yesterday where she was honored by the arab community:

The Arab American News - EventsFeb 27, 2008 ... The Lebanese American Chamber of Commerce announces its second annual ... Wayne County Circuit Court Judge Annette J. Berry, Wayne County ...

www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=event&year=2008&month=3&day=6 - 9k -

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+annette+berry%27s+chambers

[Cat]

You're the tops!!!!! :love0085: Beauty is as beauty does, imo, and you are specTACULAR! :howdy:


Is this a sandwich closing? Does the pros get to go twice?

JP looks especially evil this lovely morning.

AW, thanks, kindee. I LOVE compliments (don't we all?).

My feed won't work now. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[dojewo]

YES, we were at school until after 11 p.m.! Interviews of the 9 witnesses and/or suspects. One of our team members (of 6) didn't show.

It was WILD. You know those suspects just wouldn't co-operate! :girl_haha:I can't wait to hear more about it Kindee

[kindee]

So all that arguing over where the throat was cut and right to recall the doc was for naught -- defense is going to rest.



What was going to be their point on that anyway? Oh yeah...that there was no throat slashing before the beheading by saw.

I guess that might make a difference but I guess they decided it wasn't worth the trouble.

JP really is giving the pros the evil eye. He'd better watch it. You KNOW the jury is seeing that.

[gramvof14]

Much better, thank you. :love0085: I think I'm almost at 95% now. I actually did great singing on our job yesterday. It was fun.
OH Very good I am glad to hear that.:love0085:

[sciencegirl]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+annette+berry

i am not familiar with this judge, this being the first time watching her in court. i do believe she is married to a man from the middle east because i went to school with people of the last name berry and they were arabics. i also found a link yesterday where she was honored by the arab community:

The Arab American News - EventsFeb 27, 2008 ... The Lebanese American Chamber of Commerce announces its second annual ... Wayne County Circuit Court Judge Annette J. Berry, Wayne County ...

www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=event&year=2008&month=3&day=6 - 9k -

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=judge+annette+berry%27s+chambers


Thanks Try.:happy0207:

[sciencegirl]

JP sooooo thinks he's walking out of that courtroom; doesn't he??:67302:

[kindee]

I can't wait to hear more about it Kindee




We were the first of 5 groups to go, and it really was just insane. We came out and looked at one another and said, "What the he!! was THAT?" As each group came out, they all had the same "deer in the headlights" look that we did. It was pretty funny by 11 p.m. AND, we thought we had a good suspect but at the end of the night we had decided that person didn't fit the evidence we had. So it's back to square one.

I have to run up to work in an hour. I hope I don't miss anything good!

[kindee]

JP sooooo thinks he's walking out of that courtroom; doesn't he??:67302:




yes he does. He's even ticked at the pros. for putting him through this mess.

[lovelaw]

Next to Judge Fidler; I'd have to say this is one of my all-time favorite judges. I just love her. Intelligent, confident, can control a courtroom; but is also sweet. JMO, of course.




I was just thinking that before I logged in!~ Wouldn't it be great to see ALL courtrooms run like this??

[kindee]

OH Very good I am glad to hear that.:love0085:




Gram, any news on your daughter?

[tbrito1]

JP sooooo thinks he's walking out of that courtroom; doesn't he??:67302:

sure does, i think he thinks that his little boy look will set him free, cant wait to see his reaction when they come back with the guilty verdict:francis::basic44:!!!! I think that him testifying didn't help at all!!! I'm loving the way he keeps looking at the jurors!!

P.S. I hate the way they keep moving these emoticons!!:0doh:

[dojewo]

We were the first of 5 groups to go, and it really was just insane. We came out and looked at one another and said, "What the he!! was THAT?" As each group came out, they all had the same "deer in the headlights" look that we did. It was pretty funny by 11 p.m. AND, we thought we had a good suspect but at the end of the night we had decided that person didn't fit the evidence we had. So it's back to square one.

I have to run up to work in an hour. I hope I don't miss anything good!
Sounded like fun, hurry back so you don't miss the verdict!

[lovelaw]

We were the first of 5 groups to go, and it really was just insane. We came out and looked at one another and said, "What the he!! was THAT?" As each group came out, they all had the same "deer in the headlights" look that we did. It was pretty funny by 11 p.m. AND, we thought we had a good suspect but at the end of the night we had decided that person didn't fit the evidence we had. So it's back to square one.




I have to run up to work in an hour. I hope I don't miss anything good!

AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!~ I am so jealous!! WAHHHHHHHHHH

DANG! I was hoping you'd have off today!~:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[bambam]

did they say how long their CA's will be? heck...we really could get a verdict by the end of the day!! cool!

[kindee]

I was just thinking that before I logged in!~ Wouldn't it be great to see ALL courtrooms run like this??




I think she'll be a judge for a looooooooooooong time. She's awesome.

:mornincoffee: lovelaw!

[Cat]

If anyone else is having trouble with their feed, try this one: http://media.myfoxdetroit.com/streaming/mylive2.html

[kindee]

did they say how long their CA's will be? heck...we really could get a verdict by the end of the day!! cool!




I'm thinking the closings will go fast and the delibs. even faster. yep, we sure could have a verdict today.

[lovelaw]

Sounded like fun, hurry back so you don't miss the verdict!

HAHA!~ I guess you aren't thinking the jury will take long!!! I LOVE IT!~

[lovelaw]

I think she'll be a judge for a looooooooooooong time. She's awesome.

:mornincoffee: lovelaw!

I could see her on the Supreme Court!!~:zm10:


:mornincoffee:<<<<<YEP!~ Good morning!~:girl_haha:

[kindee]

AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!~ I am so jealous!! WAHHHHHHHHHH

DANG! I was hoping you'd have off today!~:1187603408.CR.Mothe




Lightning hit the gym and knocked the phones out. Thank heavens the 'puters weren't plugged in at the time---they have to get in to repair the wires. So I have to go up and let them in and show them where the phones and jacks are.

But I'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaack. muahaha.

[Cat]

I could see her on the Supreme Court!!~:zm10:


:mornincoffee:<<<<<YEP!~ Good morning!~:girl_haha:

Yes, she'd pretty things up, lovelaw. Oh, and I didn't forget her smarts and expertise either.

Good Morning!!

[kindee]

Sounded like fun, hurry back so you don't miss the verdict!




HA! No kidding. If this one goes long or hangs I'm really going to be :000::eyebrow1qb::lex_10:

[Cat]

Lightning hit the gym and knocked the phones out. Thank heavens the 'puters weren't plugged in at the time---they have to get in to repair the wires. So I have to go up and let them in and show them where the phones and jacks are.

But I'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaack. muahaha.

Wow, sorry to hear that, kindee, but it could have been worse. So I guess it's "Thank God" huh?

[sciencegirl]

I'm thinking the closings will go fast and the delibs. even faster. yep, we sure could have a verdict today.

I agree; they will have a verdict within a 1/2 hour. It will probably take them 4 hours to get through the instructions. There are so many counts they have to consider.

Premediated murder
Felony murder
Manslaughter
Larseny
Distruction of a corpse


I think there were a couple of more.

[gramvof14]

Gram, any news on your daughter?
The EMG has narrowed it down to the neck so she has to have an MRI and another EMG they will be calling her today to set up an appointment for her to have it done.Thanks for asking.:love0085:

[dojewo]

HAHA!~ I guess you aren't thinking the jury will take long!!! I LOVE IT!~
Hi love, I really don't think it will take them to long, maybe it will take some time to get through all the instructions but after they take their initial vote and talk a couple minutes, I think they'll be ready

[Cat]

The EMG has narrowed it down to the neck so she has to have an MRI and another EMG they will be calling her today to set up an appointment for her to have it done.Thanks for asking.:love0085:

I hope they will get a diagnosis this time. Good luck to her.

[dojewo]

Lightning hit the gym and knocked the phones out. Thank heavens the 'puters weren't plugged in at the time---they have to get in to repair the wires. So I have to go up and let them in and show them where the phones and jacks are.

But I'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaack. muahaha.You have had some rough luck, hopefully there wasn't to much damage.

[TigressPen]

What was going to be their point on that anyway? Oh yeah...that there was no throat slashing before the beheading by saw.

I guess that might make a difference but I guess they decided it wasn't worth the trouble.

JP really is giving the pros the evil eye. He'd better watch it. You KNOW the jury is seeing that.



Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't we hear the Pros mention a stab wound to the heart yesterday? If so, that could have been the fatal wound. I have had a problem envisioning JP slitting DS's throat during a struggle. Unless, DS was on the floor, on his stomach, and JP was sitting on DSs back, grabs the head and slits the throat. DS's would've fought off any other scenario. He was a big man. 100 pounds on JP. So I can see him not slitting the throat until DS was completely incapacitated or deceased.

[lovelaw]

Lightning hit the gym and knocked the phones out. Thank heavens the 'puters weren't plugged in at the time---they have to get in to repair the wires. So I have to go up and let them in and show them where the phones and jacks are.

But I'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaack. muahaha.



Ahhh, yes. I believe I remember you mentioning that last week?????
Or, is this new damage?? :girl_sad:


YIPPEE SKIPPY!~:basic44:

[lovelaw]

Yes, she'd pretty things up, lovelaw. Oh, and I didn't forget her smarts and expertise either.

Good Morning!!

She sure would!~ She's got it all!!~


Good morning to you too Cat!!~:girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

I'm thinking the closings will go fast and the delibs. even faster. yep, we sure could have a verdict today.

ITA!!~

I think the instructions could take up more time than the deliberations!!~ LOL!~

[sciencegirl]

Look at JP's eyes. They are killer eyes, IMO

[Cat]

She sure would!~ She's got it all!!~


Good morning to you too Cat!!~:girl_haha:

It's amazing how much I miss you all when I can't be here. Even though I had a great day, I was thinking of you. We are so lucky to have each other.

[lovelaw]

I agree; they will have a verdict within a 1/2 hour. It will probably take them 4 hours to get through the instructions. There are so many counts they have to consider.

Premediated murder
Felony murder
Manslaughter
Larseny
Distruction of a corpse


I think there were a couple of more.



I agree! There are quite a few matters to be instructed. Defense of others was added also.

[sciencegirl]

It's amazing how much I miss you all when I can't be here. Even though I had a great day, I was thinking of you. We are so lucky to have each other.

I was missing everyone when we said good night after the end of the day yesterday:girl_sad:

[sciencegirl]

I agree! There are quite a few matters to be instructed. Defense of others was added also.

Thanks; I think there is one more; an unusual one; just can't think of it.

[gramvof14]

I hope they will get a diagnosis this time. Good luck to her.
Thanks Cat I sure hope so too.:love0085:

[Try2Win]

I was just thinking that before I logged in!~ Wouldn't it be great to see ALL courtrooms run like this??

YES

especially the 45 minute lunches. jmo

[lovelaw]

Hi love, I really don't think it will take them to long, maybe it will take some time to get through all the instructions but after they take their initial vote and talk a couple minutes, I think they'll be ready

Yep, yep. I will be SHOCKED if we don't get a verdict by tomorrow morning!~


Good morning!`:love0085:

[Cat]

I was missing everyone when we said good night after the end of the day yesterday:girl_sad:

Good thing you have Molly. I was missing my kittens yesterday, too. Boy, are we hooked on our pets, or what?

[kindee]

You have had some rough luck, hopefully there wasn't to much damage.




I didn't realize the phones were out for 3 days. But man, it all fried. My coach Cheryl? My cheer coach, my right arm, my dear friend--owns a hair salon in town. She and her sister have owned it for years--right across the street from the high school. IT was also hit by lightning---and the electric system ignited and burned most of the place down. Just losing my phone seems mild in comparison. We have indeed had enough of this carp to last a lifetime.

I think the pros. is making a lot of sense. He's blowing the self defense claim out of the water.

[Cat]

YES

especially the 45 minute lunches. jmo

I agree, Try. Boy, could CA learn something from this trial.

[lovelaw]

It's amazing how much I miss you all when I can't be here. Even though I had a great day, I was thinking of you. We are so lucky to have each other.

Same here!!~:love0085:

[bambam]

well folks..... what's on for tomorrow?? this'n here's gonna be over.......... yikes :girl_sad:

[Try2Win]

I agree, Try. Boy, could CA learn something from this trial.

Amen

[kindee]

Thanks; I think there is one more; an unusual one; just can't think of it.




Is it the mutilation of a body? I mean this one really DOES have it all.

[Cat]

I didn't realize the phones were out for 3 days. But man, it all fried. My coach Cheryl? My cheer coach, my right arm, my dear friend--owns a hair salon in town. She and her sister have owned it for years--right across the street from the high school. IT was also hit by lightning---and the electric system ignited and burned most of the place down. Just losing my phone seems mild in comparison. We have indeed had enough of this carp to last a lifetime.

I think the pros. is making a lot of sense. He's blowing the self defense claim out of the water.

:1187603408.CR.Mothe So sorry for your friends. Are they going to start over?

Yes, his repeating the testimony of what happened is chilling.

[Try2Win]

well folks..... what's on for tomorrow?? this'n here's gonna be over.......... yikes :girl_sad:

i have some books to read, and because of your reviews of the bugliosi books, i have more to add to my list. :basic44:

[Cat]

Amen

I hear ya sista!!! :girl_haha:

[lovelaw]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't we hear the Pros mention a stab wound to the heart yesterday? If so, that could have been the fatal wound. I have had a problem envisioning JP slitting DS's throat during a struggle. Unless, DS was on the floor, on his stomach, and JP was sitting on DSs back, grabs the head and slits the throat. DS's would've fought off any other scenario. He was a big man. 100 pounds on JP. So I can see him not slitting the throat until DS was completely incapacitated or deceased.

I don't recall....I missed most of yesterday. If DS wasn't aware of the knife, JP could have come up on him from behind like he was going to hug him, and then sliced his throat first thing????

[kindee]

Ahhh, yes. I believe I remember you mentioning that last week?????
Or, is this new damage?? :girl_sad:


YIPPEE SKIPPY!~:basic44:



It's the same old damage---but Cheryl's fire is new.

JP shows no emotions, really, but rage. And disrespect, of course. He really isn't going to do well in prison. Can you imagine? :shock:

NO remorse, no sign of remorse and not even an ATTEMPT to display remorse.

Little monster.

[Cat]

i have some books to read, and because of your reviews of the bugliosi books, i have more to add to my list. :basic44:

Try, "And the Sea Will Tell" is SO good.

[lovelaw]

Thanks; I think there is one more; an unusual one; just can't think of it.

I'm having the same problem. I feel like there is at least one more. You did good getting down that many!~

[gramvof14]

It's amazing how much I miss you all when I can't be here. Even though I had a great day, I was thinking of you. We are so lucky to have each other.
ITA Cat and SG we are lucky to have each other and I too miss everyone when we get done for the day.:love0085:

[TigressPen]

I don't recall....I missed most of yesterday. If DS wasn't aware of the knife, JP could have come up on him from behind like he was going to hug him, and then sliced his throat first thing????



We heard that he stabbed him in the back numerous times first, jumped him, tackled him.

[kindee]

I agree; they will have a verdict within a 1/2 hour. It will probably take them 4 hours to get through the instructions. There are so many counts they have to consider.

Premediated murder
Felony murder
Manslaughter
Larseny
Distruction of a corpse


I think there were a couple of more.


yes
no
no
yes
yes


:girl_haha:

LWOP! :howdy:

[lovelaw]

YES

especially the 45 minute lunches. jmo

Absolutely! I'd bet that most jurors would rather keep things rolling by having a shorter lunch, too!~ It seems they always get plenty of unplanned breaks anyway!~

[bambam]

i have some books to read, and because of your reviews of the bugliosi books, i have more to add to my list. :basic44:

oh yes! i need to check my new 'stash' of books and see if i have any more bugliosi books! i read helter skelter a loooong time ago-- he co-authored that one. so the one i was talking about on the book thread is really the only one i've read by him! he also wrote "outrage" about the OJ trial!
the ones where he is the actual prosecutor tho, i think would be the best! very educational!

[kindee]

:1187603408.CR.Mothe So sorry for your friends. Are they going to start over?

Yes, his repeating the testimony of what happened is chilling.



They moved into the old Tea House (a beautiful old renovated Victorian house), on the main drag in Old Town. I think it took them 2 days (and their whole huge extended family) to get set back up. Cheryl is absolutely amazing. I bet they are more successful than ever. Some people just Git 'Er Dun.

I wonder if JP is feeling his ship sinking as he sits there glowering? :mad:

[sciencegirl]

yes
no
no
yes
yes


:girl_haha:

LWOP! :howdy:

I can't wait for the verdict. Can you imagine the look on JP's face when they say GUILTY. I wonder if he will start effing all over the place. If anyone can do it; he can.:basic44:

[kindee]

oh yes! i need to check my new 'stash' of books and see if i have any more bugliosi books! i read helter skelter a loooong time ago-- he co-authored that one. so the one i was talking about on the book thread is really the only one i've read by him! he also wrote "outrage" about the OJ trial!
the ones where he is the actual prosecutor tho, i think would be the best! very educational!



Bam, could you link that site again? I got into reading it and forgot to bookmark it. I LOVE the "old" murders. I hadn't heard of that one and wondered why---it was from the 60s. Very interesting. :hifive:

[kindee]

Absolutely! I'd bet that most jurors would rather keep things rolling by having a shorter lunch, too!~ It seems they always get plenty of unplanned breaks anyway!~




I think long lunches are for the attorneys (to get organized or do research...or, if you're Carramango...:party52: :girl_haha:) more than the jurors. But I really think the 2 hour thingy we saw in I think Spector? Is an outrageous waste of time.

[lovelaw]

It's the same old damage---but Cheryl's fire is new.

JP shows no emotions, really, but rage. And disrespect, of course. He really isn't going to do well in prison. Can you imagine? :shock:

NO remorse, no sign of remorse and not even an ATTEMPT to display remorse.

Little monster.



:girl_sad: Poor Cheryl. :1222423:


I agree! His range of emotional is is narrow, and to the negative in terms of being appropriate.

I'm not sure where he will fit in, in prison. He seems like the type who will play tough, and attempt to fit in with the worst type there. I don't think he will fold like a little wussy. I just have a feeling.....he gives off a vibe of having an f you attitude.

[dojewo]

I didn't realize the phones were out for 3 days. But man, it all fried. My coach Cheryl? My cheer coach, my right arm, my dear friend--owns a hair salon in town. She and her sister have owned it for years--right across the street from the high school. IT was also hit by lightning---and the electric system ignited and burned most of the place down. Just losing my phone seems mild in comparison. We have indeed had enough of this carp to last a lifetime.

I think the pros. is making a lot of sense. He's blowing the self defense claim out of the water.I'm glad there wasn't to much damage, sounds like you friend had a whole lot more.

I like this Pros., will he be able to speak again after the defense?

[gramvof14]

I think long lunches are for the attorneys (to get organized or do research...or, if you're Carramango...:party52: :girl_haha:) more than the jurors. But I really think the 2 hour thingy we saw in I think Spector? Is an outrageous waste of time.
I hate Cal trials ITA big waste of time and also to many days off.:rolleye0001:

[lovelaw]

We heard that he stabbed him in the back numerous times first, jumped him, tackled him.

Right. I thought he jumped on his back first and stabbed him in the throat, and cut his throat. My bad.

[Try2Win]

Try, "And the Sea Will Tell" is SO good.

thanks, i will check on that one too.

[sciencegirl]

I hate Cal trials ITA big waste of time and also to many days off.:rolleye0001:

Plus it's such a late start for most of us. It' nearly lunchtime for us; when they get started with their day.

[lovelaw]

I can't wait for the verdict. Can you imagine the look on JP's face when they say GUILTY. I wonder if he will start effing all over the place. If anyone can do it; he can.:basic44:



Me either!!
I can see him being pizzed off, and showing it!~

[lovelaw]

I think long lunches are for the attorneys (to get organized or do research...or, if you're Carramango...:party52: :girl_haha:) more than the jurors. But I really think the 2 hour thingy we saw in I think Spector? Is an outrageous waste of time.

GOOD POINT!~

:67302:Our boy Carramagno!~ :party52:


I agree! 2 hours is outrageous indeed!~

[lovelaw]

I hate Cal trials ITA big waste of time and also to many days off.:rolleye0001:

They waste so much time and money!!~

[bambam]

Bam, could you link that site again? I got into reading it and forgot to bookmark it. I LOVE the "old" murders. I hadn't heard of that one and wondered why---it was from the 60s. Very interesting. :hifive:



http://books.google.com/books?id=GHc...r-navigational

bookmark it this time, little missy!!! :basic45:

[Try2Win]

Me either!!
I can see him being pizzed off, and showing it!~

oh no, he might hurt himself. boo effin hoo.

[lovelaw]

Plus it's such a late start for most of us. It' nearly lunchtime for us; when they get started with their day.

I hate that too!~

[Cat]

They moved into the old Tea House (a beautiful old renovated Victorian house), on the main drag in Old Town. I think it took them 2 days (and their whole huge extended family) to get set back up. Cheryl is absolutely amazing. I bet they are more successful than ever. Some people just Git 'Er Dun.

I wonder if JP is feeling his ship sinking as he sits there glowering? :mad:

That sounds great. I just love Victorian houses. Yes, having a BIG family can be a great help sometimes (speaking from experience).

[bambam]

f F F F F F F F Bombs Away!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kindee]

The Real JP tells the tale. I love the temper fit! He's going to hold his breath until he turns blue. Wah.

[Try2Win]

here ya go: http://books.google.com/books?id=GHc...#PRA1-PA268,M1


bookmark it this time, little missy!!! :basic45:

link did not work for me :confused:

[lovelaw]

"One way or the other, I'm not doing any time!!" F this, F that!~

Awwwwwwwwww.....I guess he's WRONG!~

[bambam]

he told him to use the word "F"--- how funny weird----

[kindee]

I'm glad there wasn't to much damage, sounds like you friend had a whole lot more.

I like this Pros., will he be able to speak again after the defense?



I don't know! Anyone know? I bet he gets the last bite.

I'll probably miss it. I have to leave in HALF an hour. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[bambam]

link did not work for me :confused:

:shock: yikes! it was there yesterday!! i'll go find it again...

[Cat]

I hate Cal trials ITA big waste of time and also to many days off.:rolleye0001:

Right, that Hans Reiser trial is still going on and it started HOW many months ago? :0doh:

[TigressPen]

Try, "And the Sea Will Tell" is SO good.



Is that the one where the couple killed another couple and stole their yatch, put the bodies in ice chest or something and they floated up and one of them was found years later? That was a chilling case. The girl ( I forget her name) blamed it all on the man. And I think she got off, but he was found guilty. Her family had money.

[sciencegirl]

Ohhhh; good point by the prosecution about the money issue. I like it.

[Cornblossom]

:mornincoffee:


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[kindee]

:girl_sad: Poor Cheryl. :1222423:


I agree! His range of emotional is is narrow, and to the negative in terms of being appropriate.

I'm not sure where he will fit in, in prison. He seems like the type who will play tough, and attempt to fit in with the worst type there. I don't think he will fold like a little wussy. I just have a feeling.....he gives off a vibe of having an f you attitude.





Yeah but he hasn't been THERE yet. He's been in a cushy jail where he has access to the law library etc. In prison, he won't be in charge of ANYTHING. He sure does have an attitude but that won't fly with guards or fellow inmates for long.

Anyone have any idea what prison he might be assigned to?


GOOD MORNING CORN! THAT'S FRESH AND LOVELY! MMMMMMMMMMMM

[Try2Win]

Right, that Hans Reiser trial is still going on and it started HOW many months ago? :0doh:


i think that trial started last december, but not 100% sure.

[bambam]

link did not work for me :confused:

this oughta work:

http://books.google.com/books?id=GHcl9VeXbK0C&dq=Vincent+Bugliosi&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=+vincent+bugliosi&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIH&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=2&cad=author-navigational

[Cat]

Is that the one where the couple killed another couple and stole their yatch, put the bodies in ice chest or something and they floated up and one of them was found years later? That was a chilling case. The girl ( I forget her name) blamed it all on the man. And I think she got off, but he was found guilty. Her family had money.

Yes, that's the one. Bugliosi was her lawyer.

[sciencegirl]

:mornincoffee:


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OH purty Corn!!! I like it!!!:basic44:

[Try2Win]

:mornincoffee:


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pay your taxes today :basic44:

[Cat]

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Wow, pretty, Corny. Thank you. Good to see you.

[kindee]

Is that the one where the couple killed another couple and stole their yatch, put the bodies in ice chest or something and they floated up and one of them was found years later? That was a chilling case. The girl ( I forget her name) blamed it all on the man. And I think she got off, but he was found guilty. Her family had money.




yes! And Bugliosi defended her, he wasn't a prosecutor in this one.

She blamed him for all the troubles. The movie was good too!

[Try2Win]

this oughta work:

http://books.google.com/books?id=GHcl9VeXbK0C&dq=Vincent+Bugliosi&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=+vincent+bugliosi&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIH&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=2&cad=author-navigational

thanks, that worked. :22wink:

[kindee]

this oughta work:

http://books.google.com/books?id=GHcl9VeXbK0C&dq=Vincent+Bugliosi&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=+vincent+bugliosi&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIH&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=2&cad=author-navigational



Thank you very much! Bookmarked now. :howdy:

[gramvof14]

:mornincoffee:


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Morning C:love0085:orny good to see you, love the flowers they are beautiful

[sciencegirl]

2nd degree murder???? I don't get it. Why not Felony Premediated Murder?

Oh; never mind; he's explaining it now.

[mollybrown]

f F F F F F F F Bombs Away!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hadn't heard that unedited. WOW just WOW what a piece of chit. :shock:

[bambam]

yes! And Bugliosi defended her, he wasn't a prosecutor in this one.

She blamed him for all the troubles. The movie was good too!

oh yeah!! he defended her!! wow! i remember that now!!!!

[Cornblossom]

pay your taxes today :basic44:thanks for the reminder but mine's done I'm so broke I can't pay attention...but Uncle Sam is happy with me LMAO

[bambam]

thanks for the reminder but mine's done I'm so broke I can't pay attention...but Uncle Sam is happy with me LMAO

me too corn....i'm with ya in the BROKE dept!!!! :girl_sad:

[lovelaw]

:mornincoffee:


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[kindee]

2nd degree murder???? I don't get it. Why not Felony Premediated Murder?

Oh; never mind; he's explaining it now.




But it was confusing. I hope it's all clear now.

This little dude is like the little killer Michael Whoozits from Halloween. Just a permanent danger to society imo. It's probably just me but JP oozes evil---he scares the carp out of me.

[tbrito1]

Morning Corny, what beautiful flowers!!!!!!

[Cat]

I hadn't heard that unedited. WOW just WOW what a piece of chit. :shock:

Reminds me of Phil Spector's vocabulary.

[Cornblossom]

But it was confusing. I hope it's all clear now.

This little dude is like the little killer Michael Whoozits from Halloween. Just a permanent danger to society imo. It's probably just me but JP oozes evil---he scares the carp out of me.
you know when he looks at the pros...he is killing him in his mind

[tbrito1]

you know when he looks at the pros...he is killing him in his mind

he looks fn'g pissed!!!Oh, if looks could kill!!!!

[mollybrown]

Pros does get the last word after the defenses CA

[lovelaw]

you know when he looks at the pros...he is killing him in his mind



ITA!~ I have a feeling he has thought that about MOST people he looks at these days!~

[kindee]

you know when he looks at the pros...he is killing him in his mind




That's exactly what I'm getting. My skin crawls.

[tbrito1]

he has that oh chit look!!!! this guy is good!!!

[Cornblossom]

oh gawd the old hand on the shoulder thing.......that only worked in the Cody Posey trial LMAO

[tbrito1]

ok, who thinks tears are gonna start pouring down in about 15 minutes?

[Try2Win]

Excellent closing Mr. Moran :happy0158:

[bambam]

ok i'm bored. i'm ready for this one to be over. i've heard enough of this sordid tale. :girl_sad:

and i have absolutely nothing to do today. hmm. guess i could go walking early... and lift some weights.... have a healthy day, ya know???

hmm. OR.... is it too early to have a beer???? :67302:

[mollybrown]

I'm off to work. You guys have a great day and keep posting so I can catch up later. :happy0158::22wink:

[Xmygrits]

:0012::0012::0012: Mornin ya'll.

By the look on his face during Pros CA's...

Awww man, I'm f****d!"
- J. P. Orlewicz

[kindee]

Pros does get the last word after the defenses CA

Well I'm going to miss it. :doh:


I don't feel this defense atty. is feelin' it. You know what I'm sayin'?

?

[sciencegirl]

oh gawd the old hand on the shoulder thing.......that only worked in the Cody Posey trial LMAO

Yup; and I'm sure the defense will saying something like "this could be my son", "this could be your son", "this is a good boy; you heard the testimony of the long tie friend"

Heck with the icon; PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tbrito1]

ok i'm bored. i'm ready for this one to be over. i've heard enough of this sordid tale. :girl_sad:

and i have absolutely nothing to do today. hmm. guess i could go walking early... and lift some weights.... have a healthy day, ya know???

hmm. OR.... is it too early to have a beer???? :67302:

Bam, save the beer for the guilty celebration!

[Cornblossom]

Pros does get the last word after the defenses CA
they usually do cause they have the burden of proof...I think I've only seen one trial where the def went twice.
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[kindee]

:0012::0012::0012: Mornin ya'll.

By the look on his face during Pros CA's...

Awww man, I'm f****d!" - J. P. Orlewicz




HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hello fred! :mornincoffee:

[Try2Win]

thanks for the reminder but mine's done I'm so broke I can't pay attention...but Uncle Sam is happy with me LMAO

me too, i always get mine done in Feb. :basic45:

had to spend half of my return on fixing my car after a bad hit on some pot holes. :sad0119:

[lovelaw]

Defense of duress! That is the other one SG!~

[lovelaw]

I'm off to work. You guys have a great day and keep posting so I can catch up later. :happy0158::22wink:

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[gramvof14]

But it was confusing. I hope it's all clear now.

This little dude is like the little killer Michael Whoozits from Halloween. Just a permanent danger to society imo. It's probably just me but JP oozes evil---he scares the carp out of me.
Thats what I said Kindee he is evil to the core and needs to go to prison for life he is a danger to society.:shock::71541:

[sciencegirl]

Well I'm going to miss it. :doh:


I don't feel this defense atty. is feelin' it. You know what I'm sayin'?

?

There's nothing to feel. He has to know his client is guilty. There is nothing to fight for. The kid is evil. The kid is Satan.

[kindee]

ok, who thinks tears are gonna start pouring down in about 15 minutes?




He might give it the old middle school try! :000a1:

[TigressPen]

The only fear JP Orlewicz had was the fear of getting caught!! That, and that alone, was why he mutilated DS's body.

[lost indie]

I'm off to work. You guys have a great day and keep posting so I can catch up later. :happy0158::22wink:

Bye Molly...have a good day and stay safe...

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[lovelaw]

:0012::0012::0012: Mornin ya'll.

By the look on his face during Pros CA's...

Awww man, I'm f****d!"
- J. P. Orlewicz



MORNIN'!~:girl_haha:

[bambam]

Bam, save the beer for the guilty celebration!

i have faith in the jury.... so can i celebrate early...you know... to demonstrate my faith in the jury and all......:grin:

[sciencegirl]

Defense of duress! That is the other one SG!~

Yup; that's it. Thanks lovey.

[lovelaw]

Well I'm going to miss it. :doh:


I don't feel this defense atty. is feelin' it. You know what I'm sayin'?

?



I FEEL YA!~:party52:

[Cornblossom]

:0012::0012::0012: Mornin ya'll.

By the look on his face during Pros CA's...

Awww man, I'm f****d!"
- J. P. Orlewicz
And I didn't even get kissed

[Try2Win]

ok i'm bored. i'm ready for this one to be over. i've heard enough of this sordid tale. :girl_sad:

and i have absolutely nothing to do today. hmm. guess i could go walking early... and lift some weights.... have a healthy day, ya know???

hmm. OR.... is it too early to have a beer???? :67302:

no not too early but i quit drinking. i now drink decaff coffee all day, all night. :eyebrow1qb:

[lovelaw]

He might give it the old middle school try! :000a1:

:67302:

[lovelaw]

The only fear JP Orlewicz had was the fear of getting caught!! That, and that alone, was why he mutilated DS's body.

Absolutely!~ He does NOT seem "emotionally" fearful to me. He seems that he has ba!!s much larger than most of his stature!~ JMO

[gramvof14]

:0012::0012::0012: Mornin ya'll.

By the look on his face during Pros CA's...

Awww man, I'm f****d!"
- J. P. Orlewicz
Morning Xmy and you are right he is so guilty.:doh:

[lovelaw]

And I didn't even get kissed



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[kindee]

Defense of duress! That is the other one SG!~




The defendant...killed this guy and decapitated him. Of COURSE he was feeling a bit stressed..but by his own hand!

That is wack.

[sciencegirl]

Oh; here's comes the rain theory to explain circumstantial evidence. He's diggin deep for a defense

[bambam]

no not too early but i quit drinking. i now drink decaff coffee all day, all night. :eyebrow1qb:

really? you don't drink, but you don't think 10:15am is too early for a beer??? hmmmm :eyebrow1qb:



i like your thinkin!!!!!!!! :67302:

but really, :kidding-01:....toooooo early to start on the beer for me!!!!!

[Cornblossom]

I'm betting he blames his dad when he gets convicted...his testimony wasn't heartfelt enough.......any bets?

[lost indie]

And I didn't even get kissed

here ya go...

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