View Full Version : Artist puts face on woman's skeletal remains-Montgomery AL
Nut44x4
04-29-2008, 09:19 AM
The Montgomery County Sheriff's Office hopes to gain a lead in a missing persons case now that they have a facial reconstruction for remains found in December.
Investigators believe the skeleton, found by a road crew Dec. 19 on U.S. 331 in Snowdoun, is that of a black female between 30 and 45 years old.
The severe drought in the area made it difficult to determine the exact amount of time the body had been left to decompose, but investigators said it was anywhere between two weeks and six months.
Millbrook-based forensic artist Ann Morland began working on the reconstruction April 9. Using the skull and information in the anthropology reports on the remains, Morland was able to re-create the woman's appearance.
Anyone with information on the woman's identity is asked to call the Sheriff's Office at 832-2532.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/NEWS/80428018&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
AU_Grad
04-29-2008, 01:33 PM
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AU_Grad
04-29-2008, 01:39 PM
Updated: April 28, 2008 03:24 PM CDT
Face Given to Skeleton Found in Montgomery County
For the first time in department history, the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office is relying on a facial reconstruction specialist to help them solve a mystery.
"I can't tell you how close this bust is or how far away it is, but I do feel we're a mile ahead of what we had to go on," said Sheriff D.T. Marshall.
What investigators do know is the remains are those of a black female between 30 and 45 years old and she was somewhere between five foot one and five foot eight..
A highway crew discovered the skeleton about a week before Christmas last year. Since then investigators have gotten tips but nothing's panned out.
"We feel like she was murdered. We got some ideas but nothing we can elaborate on," said Marshall.
"She was wearing faded blue jeans and a Life South blood donor t-shirt. She was also wearing a High Point jacket with a fleur de lea pattern," said Investigator Mary Griffith.
Homicide investigators, meantime, hope the work of the specialist who spent two weeks building the bust with clay will provide clues they so desperately need; who was she and what happened. So close yet so far.
"We're kind of at a standstill. We need to have this person identified. Until then we don't have many leads to go by," Sheriff Marshall said.
Forensic investigators believe the woman's body may have been off Highway 331 near mile-marker 92 anywhere from two weeks to six months.
The specialist declined to be interviewed for this story saying the case is still unsolved. However, Ann Morland did tell us she used certain Forensic formulas to help craft the face.
Call the Secret Witness Line at 832-1200 if you have information that might help county investigators.
http://wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?s=8239001
Roamer
04-29-2008, 01:42 PM
Nut & Au Grad please check your PMs regarding this case.
Nut44x4
04-29-2008, 05:59 PM
Just for the record:
LifeSouth collects and distributes blood in the following Regions and Donor Centers:
Alabama:
East Alabama (Auburn), Birmingham, Montgomery and North Alabama (Huntsville), Morgan, Marshall, Shoals, Wiregrass, Coastal Alabama and Cullman.
Florida:
Citrus, (Lecanto), Civitan (Gainesville), Hernando (Brooksville), Marion (Ocala), Putnam (Palatka), and Suwannee Valley (Lake City).
Georgia:
Greater Atlanta and Northeast Georgia (Gainesville).
Blood Drive Schedules are posted by region - select a state and locate the LifeSouth region nearest you.
http://www.lifesouth.org/RegionsAndDonorCenters.html
Nut44x4
04-29-2008, 06:07 PM
High Point jacket with a fleur de lea pattern
I am assuming they mean "fleur de lis"
Doing some searches on this now.
Nut44x4
04-29-2008, 06:15 PM
What does the symbol of fleur-de-lis mean?
Question:What is its origin?
Answers:
Fleur-de-lis is literally translated from French as "flower of the lily", and is widely thought to be a stylized version of the species Iris pseudacorus. Decorative ornaments that resemble the fleur-de-lis have appeared in the artwork from the earliest civilizations.
"The use for ornamental or symbolic purposes of the stylised flower usually called fleur de lis is common to all eras and all civilizations. It is an essentially graphic theme found on Mesopotamian cylinders, Egyptian bas-reliefs, Mycenean potteries, Sassanid textiles, Gaulish coins, Mameluk coins, Indonesian clothes, Japanese emblems and Dogon totems. The many writers who have discussed the topic agree that it has little to do graphically with the lily, but disagree on whether it derives from the iris, the broom, the lotus or the furze, or whether it represents a trident, an arrowhead, a double axe, or even a dove or a pigeon. It is in our opinion a problem of little importance. The essential point is that it is a very stylised figure, probably a flower, that has been used as an ornament or an emblem by almost all civilizations of the old and new worlds."
It has consistently been used as a royal emblem, though different cultures have interpreted its meaning in varying ways. Gaulish coins show the first designs which look similar to modern fleurs-de-lis.
much more at the site:
http://eduqna.com/Trivia/1278-Trivia-7.html
AU_Grad
04-30-2008, 10:15 AM
When I read that the jacket had a "fleur de lea" pattern, I also interpreted that as "fleur de lis"... then being from the southern states, automatically associated it with New Orleans ..... virtually everything in New Orleans is decorated with the pattern (fence post tops, signage, clothing, etc....) Additionally, that is the logo for the New Orleans Saints.
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Roamer
04-30-2008, 10:23 AM
That's very interesting, Au_Grad. I wonder if she's from New Orleans.
Auburnmommyof2
04-30-2008, 11:50 AM
I am very interested to see what comes of this case. Just a side note...we had alot of people in the Auburn/Opelika area from New Orleans after Katrina. Makes me wonder if this could be one of them.
Roamer
04-30-2008, 12:36 PM
That's a good question, AM. I looked at LA missing people at the center for missing adults this morning, and there are only four people there, none of whom fit this description. That doesn't mean she couldn't be from there, though.
AU_Grad
04-30-2008, 01:05 PM
Roamer,
I found reference to a Constance Anderson missing from Louisianna yesterday. The only link I could find to her information was on the National Center for Missing Adults. It states that she disappeared on January 24, 2006 from Mansfield, Louisianna.
http://i29.tinypic.com/2hs42tw.jpg
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200604190S
Roamer
04-30-2008, 01:08 PM
Is this the woman you showed me yesterday, AUG? There is certainly a close resemblance!
AU_Grad
04-30-2008, 01:10 PM
Yes, that's her. She is the only one that resembles the re-creation from Louisianna.
Roamer
04-30-2008, 01:10 PM
That information was given to LE last night, AUG, by the moderator who saw the resemblance in her and the other woman I mentioned to you.
Thanks!
AU_Grad
04-30-2008, 01:14 PM
I wish they could release a picture (or at least a better description) of the jacket that she was wearing. I keep wondering if it was just a jacket with a random "fleur de lis" pattern or if it was sportswear/fan-gear for the New Orleans Saints.
Auburnmommyof2
04-30-2008, 02:18 PM
How accurate would LE estimated age be? I don't know much about the forensics of age determination
Nut44x4
05-01-2008, 03:59 PM
http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=8252806&nav=menu33_3
A number of tips have come into the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office in response to a story that WSFA 12 News ran on Monday.
In the story, we showed a picture of the recreated face of a woman whose skeletal remains were found off of Highway 331 four months ago.
The woman is described as African American and between the heights of 5'1 and 5'8. A pair of size 12 women's jeans were also found with the remains.
According to Montgomery County Sheriff D.T. Marshall, his office has received numerous tips from cases reaching as far back as 1992.
"Hopefully one of these is the victim, and we can put that part to rest for the family," Marshall says.
If you have any information in regards to the case, you can call the Sheriff's secret witness line at 832-1200.
Posted: April 30, 2008 08:25 PM EDT
Updated: April 30, 2008 08:31 PM EDT
Roamer
05-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Glad to hear they're getting so many tips. Maybe this lady can finally be taken home.
AU_Grad
05-29-2008, 02:30 PM
http://www.wsfa.com/global/story.asp?s=8252806
A number of tips have come into the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office in response to a story that WSFA 12 News ran on Monday.
In the story, we showed a picture of the recreated face of a woman whose skeletal remains were found off of Highway 331 four months ago.
The woman is described as African American and between the heights of 5'1 and 5'8. A pair of size 12 women's jeans were also found with the remains.
According to Montgomery County Sheriff D.T. Marshall, his office has received numerous tips from cases reaching as far back as 1992.
"Hopefully one of these is the victim, and we can put that part to rest for the family," Marshall says.
If you have any information in regards to the case, you can call the Sheriff's secret witness line at 832-1200.
Nut44x4
07-09-2008, 07:53 PM
When I read that the jacket had a "fleur de lea" pattern, I also interpreted that as "fleur de lis"... then being from the southern states, automatically associated it with New Orleans ..... virtually everything in New Orleans is decorated with the pattern (fence post tops, signage, clothing, etc....) Additionally, that is the logo for the New Orleans Saints.
http://i25.tinypic.com/jpipzr.jpg
Fleur-de-lis becomes Louisiana state symbol
July 9, 2008 5:24 AM ET
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - The fleur-de-lis is now an official symbol of Louisiana.
Governor Bobby Jindal on Tuesday signed into law a bill that allows use of the flower image on official documents, alongside the state's official insignia.
The bill was sponsored by Representative Nickie Monica, a Republican from LaPlace.
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=8645167&nav=menu50_1
Nut44x4
09-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Another possibility????? 200 mile distance though, but not impossible. Timeline/age matche
Chastity Jones
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12215&highlight=Cobb+Volvo
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