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packy
05-02-2008, 09:08 AM
This case was featured on Discovery program. Sure are many questions and it's possible these people are innocent.

http://members.shaw.ca/imaginarycrimes/smith&allen.htm

Nancy Smith and Joseph Allen were convicted of sexually abusing young children in August of 1994. Smith, a 37-year-old single mother with four children, was a bus driver for the Lorain, Ohio Head Start. The prosecution charged that after delivering the children to school, she would sometimes keep three or four of them and take them to a mysterious location, where she and a man known to the children only as "Joseph" would commit various sexual acts with them, make them drink urine, and poke them with needles and sticks.

But an examination of the police investigation leaves many disturbing questions; questions about the children's testimony, questions about whether Smith and Allen even knew each other -- questions about whether, in fact, any crimes were committed at all. (Much more at link)

Roamer
05-02-2008, 09:27 AM
I remember that case, packy, and I always wondered if they were really guilty or not.

packy
05-06-2008, 09:03 PM
Lots of questions about this case.

SaberGal
05-06-2008, 09:48 PM
This case stunk the first time I saw it on Discovery. Still stinks, IMO.

Claudia
05-06-2008, 10:36 PM
This is the kind of thing that makes me worry about what I do for a living. I have had one child tell lies on me, not for anything serious, stupid things like I slept all day (with 5 toddlers in the room? yeah, right.), I didn't feed them enough, blah blah... But she did this because she got in trouble for breaking my lamp & then lying about it to me. This was an older girl, she was 9.
Then I had a mother send the police to my house. She told them that I had done something to her son to cause a mark he had on his face. He had the mark when he came to me that morning! The police came & talked to me & basically said that they thought she was crazy (she is, I have known her for years). I am the second sitter she did this to. She owed me over $200.00 & didn't want to pay. Guess what? She never did. Oh, and the 9 yr old girl that lied on me? Her parents still owe me over $400.00. Funny how that works, huh?
Anyway, children can & will lie. They can be coerced into saying almost anything. All my friends that also do in home daycare have the same fear, and similar things have happened to a few of them. All I know is I am very happy to be getting out of this business - the sooner the better.