Nancy Cooper, [BODY FOUND] [HUSBAND ARRESTED] 34, Missing Since 07/12/08 Cary, NC.

[sunstar]

Massive Search Underway for Missing N.C. Woman

CARY, N.C. — A massive search was launched on Sunday to find a missing North Carolina woman last seen when she left her home to go running, WRAL.com reported.

Nancy Cooper, 34, reportedly went for a routine jog early Saturday morning, but never returned home to meet friends as planned.

Volunteers and police mobilized a search team with the help of the National Guard and police canines.

"We have had assistance from the National Guard that have flown routes for us in helicopters." Cary Police Capt. Michael Williams told WRAL.

Though Cooper's exact running route is unknown, volunteers reportedly scoured running trails and a golf course by foot and by bicycle — and plastered flyers with Cooper's picture on buildings and street signs.

"That was a little odd," neighbor Diana Duncan told WRAL upon learning of Cooper's disappearance. "She doesn't stand you up. She'll always call."

Authorities described Cooper — an avid runner who was training for a half-marathon — as a caucasian woman, approximately 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair, and was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes, according to WRAL.com.

"She has two beautiful little girls who I love so much," Duncan said. "We her so much; we all do. We just have to keep looking on."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html

[Kaylynn]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6261482

Officers say Nancy Cooper, 34, left her home at 7 a.m. Saturday to go running and never came back home.

Cooper is described as 5 feet 9 inches tall, 120 pounds, hazel eyes and brown hair. She was last seen wearing a t-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Police believe she was in the Lochmere Lake area or near Regency Park.

[sunstar]

Another article and photo of Nancy ~

Search on for missing Cary woman

CARY - Dozens of friends and strangers gathered early today to search for a missing mother of two who hasn’t been seen since Saturday morning.
Nancy Cooper, 34, left her home on Wallsburg Court at 7 a.m. Saturday for a jog and did not return, according to police.

A neighbor, Diana Duncan, said Cooper was on foot, didn’t have her car and wasn’t carrying identification. Duncan said she’s helping organize the volunteer search from the Lochmere Pavilion shopping center off Kildaire Farm Road.

Duncan says she’s known Cooper since Cooper moved to Cary from Canada eight years ago. She said Cooper's husband Brad Cooper was at home with the couple's two young daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.

“She’s the best mom around,” Duncan said.

Police say Cooper is white, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weighs about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair. She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Cooper is very athletic and was training for a half marathon, Duncan said.

Volunteers fanned out through the Lochmere area of Cary, putting up flyers as they went. Duncan said she felt volunteers were running out of places to search.

“I don’t want to leave,” she said. “I keep hoping someone’s going to call.”

Anyone with information is asked to contact Cary Police at 469-4016.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1139901.html

[Heidi J.]

:bump:

Nothing new...:groan:

[Faith]

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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&q=Nancy%20Cooper%2C%20missing

[Faith]

Help find Nancy Cooper
Sunday Jul 13, 2008

Copied verbatim from Rich Sharple's blog, but this is big ... and scary for us.

One of our neighbors - Nancy Cooper has been missing since the morning of Saturday, July 12. She went for a run around 7am on Saturday morning in theLochmere / Regency Lake area of Cary, NC and never returned. Nancy is white, has shoulder length brown hair and hazel eyes, she’s 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighs about 120 pounds. She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes

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There’s more information and photos on WRAL.com and the News & Observer. If you’re a local blogger - please help spread the word and If you have any information contact Cary Police at 919-469-4016 / 4012.

http://blogs.sun.com/davidgs/entry/help_find_nancy_cooper

[Faith]

Police, public searching for missing Cary woman
Nancy Cooper

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Posted: Jul. 12, 2008
Updated: Jul. 13 5:32 p.m.

Cary, N.C. — National Guard pilots, police dogs and friends searched Sunday for a jogger who went missing a day earlier.

Nancy Cooper, 34, of Wallsburg Court, went running at 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return home by 9 a.m. or meet friends later that morning as planned.

"That was a little odd," said neighbor Diana Duncan, who has known the mother of two since she moved from Canada. "She doesn't stand you up. She'll always call."

Duncan said that Cooper did not take her car, keys or identification when she went running.

Dozens of people turned out to join a search party from Lochmere Pavilion, at Kildaire Farm Road and Lochmere Drive, around 8 a.m. Sunday. They combed running trails and a golf course by foot and by bicycle, and volunteers plastered flyers with Cooper's picture on buildings and street signs.

Cary police officers said they have launched an all-out search for Cooper.

"Officers out here on foot, we've had a great number of those out here. We've had K9 out here," Capt. Michael Williams said. "We have had assistance from the National Guard that have flown routes for us in helicopters."

Cooper's running route was believed to be in the Lochmere Lake or the Regency Park areas. She was training for a half marathon and is a member of Lochmere Swim and Tennis Club.

"She has two beautiful little girls who I love so much," Duncan said. "We love her so much; we all do. We just have to keep looking on."

Cooper was described as a white woman, standing 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair that goes just past her shoulders.

She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Anyone with information related to Cooper’s whereabouts should contact the Cary Police Department at 919-469-4016.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3197372/

[Faith]

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http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1139901.html

[Faith]

Search Underway for Missing N.C. Woman

Sunday, July 13, 2008

CARY, N.C. — A search was launched on Sunday to find a missing North Carolina woman last seen when she left her home to go running, WRAL.com reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html

[Faith]

Search continues for missing Cary jogger
Nancy Cooper

Posted: Jul. 13 6:40 p.m.
Updated: 47 minutes ago

Cary, N.C. — The search will continue Monday morning for a missing Cary jogger.

Nancy Cooper, 34, of Wallsburg Court, went running at 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return home.

"That was a little odd," said neighbor Diana Duncan. "She doesn't stand you up. She'll always call."

Duncan said that Cooper did not take her car, keys or identification when she went out.

A search party on Sunday combed Cooper's running route, which was believed to be the Lochmere Lake and Regency Park areas. Volunteers also plastered flyers with Cooper's photo on buildings and street signs.

"Officers out here on foot, we've had a great number of those out here. We've had K9 out here," Capt. Michael Williams said. "We have had assistance from the National Guard that have flown routes for us in helicopters."

Divers also searched Lochmere Lake on Sunday as a precautionary measure, officers said.

Cooper was training for a half marathon and is a member of Lochmere Swim and Tennis Club.

"She has two beautiful little girls who I love so much," Duncan said. "We love her so much; we all do. We just have to keep looking on."

Cooper's husband said Sunday evening that this had been a very difficult time for his family. He asked that everyone continue to spread his wife's photo around.

Cooper, originally from Canada, is 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighs about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair that goes just past her shoulders.

She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Anyone with information about Cooper’s whereabouts is asked to call the Cary Police Department at 919-469-4016.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3199834/

[TigressPen]

This doesn't sound good. :1187603408.CR.Mothe I pray she is found and is safe. :1222423:

[Faith]

Me too TP :1222423:

[Grande]

:1222423:

[Grande]

Posted on Mon, Jul. 14, 2008
Search resumes for missing Cary woman
SAMUEL SPIES
Raleigh News & Observer

Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore plans a news briefing this afternoon on the investigation into the disappearance of a mother of two who has not been seen since Saturday morning.

Police so far have not provided much detail about their search for Nancy Cooper, whose husband last saw her Saturday morning. A town spokeswoman, Deanna Boone, said this morning that officers were expanding the search to include running trails beyond the area searched over the weekend.

Cooper, 34, left her home on Wallsburg Court in the Lochmere subdivision about 7 a.m. Saturday to go jogging, police said over the weekend. She was expected home about 9 a.m. but did not return.

About 75 people, including a number of Cooper's friends and neighbors, gathered this morning in a drizzly rain to look for her along trails and nearby wooded areas.

A neighbor, Diana Duncan, said Cooper was on foot and wasn't carrying identification. Duncan has been organizing the volunteer searches.

Duncan said she has known Cooper since Cooper moved to Cary from Canada eight years ago. She said on Sunday that Cooper's husband, Brad Cooper, was at home with the couple's two daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.

Michael Morwick, whose wife is Cooper's best friend, said Brad Cooper is very concerned.

"He's lost," Morwick said. "He's just doing what police have asked."

He is trying to keep regular bed times and regular play dates for the two girls, Morwick added.

Police described Nancy Cooper as white, 5 feet 9 inches tall and about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair. She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Investigators are treating Cooper's disappearance as a missing-person case.

Cooper was training for a half-marathon, Duncan said.

http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_news/story/711809.html

[SavannahStar]

No, it sure doesn't sound good. I pray she is found and is safe. :1222423:

[Heidi J.]

:1222423: I pray she comes home safe to her family.

[packy]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3203263/

The police have asked us to look a little bit further off the trail," search organizer Mike Morwick said Monday. "Yesterday, we covered every trail in the Lochmere Regency area. We're just going further, we're looking further into the brush to see if there's anything that might raise suspicion."

Meanwhile, investigators said they were also interviewing Nancy Cooper's family members and acquaintances to learn more about her life.

Police say no one has reported seeing Cooper, 34, after a dinner party in the neighborhood that ended late Friday night. They said they do not believe she had any identification on her Saturday when she apparently left the house.

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"We consider her to be alive and a missing person, at this time," Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore said at a news conference Monday afternoon. "And our goal is tor bring her home."

About 200 people were out searching Monday. That included Cooper's husband, said Bazemore, adding that they have been in direct contact with him.

Brad Cooper told WRAL News on Sunday that he and his wife were having "marital issues" but would not elaborate, nor would he comment further about his wife's disappearance.

Cooper's father, mother and identical twin sister traveled from Canada to assist in the search.

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http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3203263/

*bold added by me.

[sunstar]

I haven't heard anything new about Nancy today, but before I left for work I did hear on Fox News that her husband said she didn't have her cell phone or any ID with her. I never would go anywhere without either!! :frown: I pray she's found, but agree it doesnt look good. I also pray this is one case where the husband isn't involved.

[Audie]

Jessica Adams, a friend of Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a press conference Monday evening.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Cary police Chief Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3203263/

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3203263/

Posted: Today at 12:51 p.m.
Updated: Today at 8:11 p.m.

Cary, N.C. — Investigators conducted interviews while officers and hundreds of volunteers searched Monday for a Cary mother of two whose friend reported her missing after she didn't show up for a planned visit Saturday afternoon.

Police say no one has reported seeing Nancy Cooper, 34, after a dinner party in the neighborhood that ended late Friday night. They said they do not believe she had any identification on her Saturday when she apparently left the house.

Jessica Adams, a friend of Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a press conference Monday evening.

Brad Cooper told police his wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Cary police Chief Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."

Police described Cooper as being 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds, with hazel eyes and brown hair that goes just past her shoulders. She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Anyone with information about Cooper’s whereabouts is asked to call the Cary Police Department at 919-469-4016 or Crime Stoppers at 919-226-CRIM(E).

"We consider her to be alive and a missing person, at this time," Bazemore said at a news conference Monday afternoon. "And our goal is tor bring her home."

Bazemore said that Brad Cooper is being cooperative and has agreed to let the police search the couple's house and cars. She confirmed that he had told police that they were experiencing marital problems.

Brad Cooper made his first public statement at the evening press conference, but did not answer any questions. He thanked all the volunteers and said he hopes anyone with information would come forward.

Cooper's father, mother and identical twin sister traveled from Canada to assist in the search.

"We have been here today to help find Nancy," Cooper's father, Garry Rentz said. "We believe she will be brought home soon. And we thank the community for the support that they've given and ask they continue in their effort to find our daughter."

About 200 people joined search parties that covered the areas of Lochmere Lake and Regency Park, which were believed to be routes Cooper regularly jogs. They also posted more than 2,000 fliers.

"The police have asked us to look a little bit further off the trail," search organizer Mike Morwick said Monday. "Yesterday, we covered every trail in the Lochmere Regency area. We're just going further, we're looking further into the brush to see if there's anything that might raise suspicion."

Crews have searched in and around Lochmere Lake for Cooper, and Bazemore said they are also searching near Lake Wheeler and Lake Johnson.

Friends said Monday that the search is personal.

"Nancy is one of our dearest friends, and we miss her dearly," Morwick said. "And we just want to find an end to this."

Reporter: Amanda Lamb
Photographer: Chad Flowers
Web Editor: Kelly Gardner


First red flag...hubby was last to see her alive
Second red flag...martial problems
Third red flag...a friend not hubby reported her missing

This doesn't sound good at all.

[sunstar]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3203263/

First red flag...hubby was last to see her alive
Second red flag...martial problems
Third red flag...a friend not hubby reported her missing

This doesn't sound good at all.

I agree, KittyMom! There's another thing that I personally would never do and that's leave home without cellphone or ID. I also read in one article she was supposed to start her jog at Java Jive. I guess no one saw her there which seems kind of odd on a Saturday morning. About the friend reporting her missing, I think the friend must know something that LE isn't telling the public ~ such as the reason the friend was worried after such a short period of time? Maybe Nancy had told her friend something like, "if I'm ever late, something bad has happened to me"?

[Heidi J.]

I agree, KittyMom! There's another thing that I personally would never do and that's leave home without cellphone or ID. I also read in one article she was supposed to start her jog at Java Jive. I guess no one saw her there which seems kind of odd on a Saturday morning. About the friend reporting her missing, I think the friend must know something that LE isn't telling the public ~ such as the reason the friend was worried after such a short period of time? Maybe Nancy had told her friend something like, "if I'm ever late, something bad has happened to me"?

Could be.. Not sounding good though.

[KittyMom]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1140988.html

Duncan described the event as a cocktail party, but "very casual, sort of a normal Friday-night summer thing." She said Nancy Cooper looked tired and that she had not been feeling well.

Brad Cooper confirmed today the couple were having marital problems but doubted his wife would leave.

"Well, it's not like she would just run away like this," he said.

He said he believes she's still alive. "I'm keeping a positive mindset." The kids, he said, are "doing good. We're keeping them active."

Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore said today she thinks Nancy Cooper, a mother of two who has been missing since Saturday, is still alive.

"There are no suspects or persons of interest in this case," Bazemore said at a news conference today. "We believe Nancy is alive."

Bazemore said police have been talking regularly to Brad Cooper, "and he is answering our questions."

Michael Morwick, whose wife, Clea, is Cooper's best friend, said Brad Cooper is very concerned.

"He's lost," Morwick said. "He's just doing what police have asked."

He is trying to keep regular bed times and regular play dates for the two girls, Morwick added.

[KittyMom]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19645868126

Facebook page for Nancy Cooper.

[KittyMom]

http://nancycooper.blogspot.com/

[sunstar]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1140988.html

Of course LE is going to hope she's alive and want people to help search for her and also not want to say anything that would make Nancy's husband clam up and get a lawyer. Right now there isn't anything either to show that she's not alive or that he did anything to her ~ but, imo, no one would just up and take off without any ID, money, phone, etc. especially with 2 small children and leave them behind. This reminds me so much of Stacy Peterson except this husband is actually trying to show some concern whether it's real or not.

[KittyMom]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3203263/

Hubby says she was due back from her jog at 9am. Her friend reported her missing at 2:15pm. What did hubby do during all that time?

[sunstar]

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3203263/

Hubby says she was due back from her jog at 9am. Her friend reported her missing at 2:15pm. What did hubby do during all that time?

First thought for me is, why didn't he become alarmed during that time and call LE himself? Or did he think that would immediately make him a suspect? If I told my husband I was going to be gone a couple of hours and didn't come home, believe me, he'd be out looking for me before 5 more hrs. passed. Another reason to always take the cell phone! In this case, if everything happened like he says, where did he think she went without any ID or anything? It's not like she decided to go shopping or something like that after jogging. :shrug1:

[Audie]

Greta saying she has been found in a body of water.

eta: found at 7:30 tonite.

[pinetree]

On Greta now....body found....

[pinetree]

Hubby killed her??

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/

A body was found late Monday along Holly Springs Rd. This is not far from where a Cary jogger went missing, police say.

[sunstar]

Greta saying she has been found in a body of water.

eta: found at 7:30 tonite.

I missed the first part but has the body been confirmed to be Nancy?

[sunstar]

Hubby killed her??

I just turned on Greta's show after the first part of the story, but it seems really odd that there were a lot of people out jogging on Sat. morning and no one saw her. The reporter, Amanda Lamb, said there's no confirmation she was alive after Friday night.

[Audie]

On Greta now....body found....Did they say that they think it is her? Or just that a body has been found? I was typing and missed some of what was said.

[jewels]

They say it was not on her jogging path :smiley_aasg:

[Audie]

I missed the first part but has the body been confirmed to be Nancy?I'm not sure what I heard, sunstar. I guess we will have to wait until they get back to the story.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/

A body was found late Monday along Holly Springs Rd. This is not far from where a Cary jogger went missing, police say.

Why would Greta say its not regular jogging path? This is the breaking news header on wral.com

[KittyMom]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6263445

Police: possible jogger discovery

CARY, NC (WTVD) -- Authorities announce in a late night press conference they have made a discovery.
Officials announced late Monday they have discovered a body in Wake County, but have yet to determine if it is the remains of the missing Cary jogger.
They say someone found a female body in Cary. The Wake County sheriff is at the scene.
However, Cooper's family is optimistic that it is not her and hope to continue search efforts Tuesday morning.


more at link

[sunstar]

I'm not sure what I heard, sunstar. I guess we will have to wait until they get back to the story.

Greta's moved on to something else now so I'll just rely on wral.com headlines and see if there's anything on my 11pm news here.

[jewels]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6263445

Police: possible jogger discovery



more at link

Hi kitty,
Didnt greta say it was not near her path? or am i hearing things?:happy0207:

[mollybrown]

Rip :1222423::1222423:

[KittyMom]

Hi kitty,
Didnt greta say it was not near her path? or am i hearing things?:happy0207:

I wasn't watching Greta. I just saw the header that implied the body was found near the path she was to have been on.

[sunstar]

Update on wral.com ~

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

Cary, N.C. — A body was found Monday evening in Wake County, and police said they were looking into the possibility that it was the body of a missing Cary woman.

At about 7:30 p.m., a man walking his dog reported seeing a person floating in a pond near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive.

That location is not far from where a mother of two reportedly went for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday.

Jessica Adams, a friend of Nancy Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a press conference Monday evening.

[Isabella]

Why would Greta say its not regular jogging path? This is the breaking news header on wral.com
The reporter Greta was interviewing who is familiar with the area said the pond was not on a jogging path, but who knows she may not have followed the actual path.

[jewels]

The reporter Greta was interviewing who is familiar with the area said the pond was not on a jogging path, but who knows she may not have followed the actual path.


Thanks!

[KittyMom]

Someone on Websleuths is posting under Nancy's name. Is a friend of Nancy's and was there looking for search info when this was reported.

[sunstar]

Someone on Websleuths is posting under Nancy's name. Is a friend of Nancy's and was there looking for search info when this was reported.

How sad.


Oh ~ Greta has another report coming up about Nancy.

[Audie]

I found the pond on Mapquest. By looking for Holly Springs Rd and Fielding Dr. I tried typing in that location but it couldn't find it. It's SE of her home (Wallsburg Ct.) Where she jogged, I think, is west of her home.

[sunstar]

WRAL reporter Amanda Lamb on the phone with Greta from where the woman's body was found. One mile beyond neighborhood where Nancy lived, in a new subdivision. Investigators and many LE at the scene. Body will go to ME's office for autopsy. Not confirming yet that it is Nancy. Police told media earlier today that husband conceded to allow LE to search their cars. Friends haven't said much about Nancy's behavior Friday night but that she would not leave her children.

[Audie]

If I have the right pond, there are homes around it. Not right up to the pond, though.

[Heidi J.]

Not the way I was hoping this would end.

:1222423:

[sunstar]

Another update ~

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1140988.html

CARY - A body has been found in a pond that police believe may be the missing Cary jogger, Nancy Cooper.

Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore, at a news conference tonight, said a man was walking his dog about 7:30 p.m. near a pond on Fielding Drive when he discovered the body of a woman. Authorities have not confirmed that it is Cooper, but police say they think it may be because of the proximity to where she was last seen.

Her husband, Brad Cooper, told investigators he last saw his wife when she left home at 7 a.m. Saturday for a jog. Nancy Cooper, 34, was reported missing at 2:51 p.m. Saturday by a friend, Jessica Adam, according to Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore.

The volunteer searchers, along with 32 police officers who have been working around the clock, searched the trails around Lake Wheeler and Lake Johnson today, Bazemore said. During the weekend, the search focused on trails and woods in and near the Regency and Lochmere neighborhoods of Cary. The Coopers live in Lochmere with their two daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.

Adam said that Cooper was supposed to join her Saturday morning at Adam’s house to help paint her dining room. The friends had made a deal: Cooper was going to help her paint; and then Adam was going to help Cooper organize her house. Both were runners, training to participate in the Rock 'n' Roll Half Marathon on Aug. 31 in Virginia Beach, Va.

When Cooper didn’t show up, Adam called Brad Cooper. She said he told her that his wife had gone for a run with a friend, but he wasn’t sure which friend. Adam said he later called to say he thought the friend was someone named Carrie, and wanted to know whether Adam knew how to contact Carrie.

Adam knew someone by that name, but said she didn’t know the woman’s last name and did not have her phone number. Cooper said he was going to continue looking for Carrie’s phone number and hung up, Adam said.

Adam said she felt that something had gone wrong and called police.

Cary police said today that Brad Cooper was cooperating with them, answering questions and allowing them to search his house and cars. About 3:45 p.m., police searched the couple’s BMW sedan and BMW SUV. They also removed a Louis Vuitton purse from one of the vehicles.

Brad Cooper said Monday in an interview in the driveway of the couple’s Wallsburg Court home that the couple was having marital problems, but not to the point he felt his wife would leave him and their two children. Adam said the two children stayed at her house Monday.

Brad Cooper works at Cisco Systems while Nancy Cooper stayed at home with their children.

Cooper’s parents, Donna and Garry Rentz of Edmonton, Alberta, and her identical twin sister, Khrista Lister, of Toronto arrived Monday morning.

Reading from a statement earlier in the day, Garry Rentz the family was “overwhelmed” by the support of Cary residents. Bazemore said the degree of community interest and involvement in the search for Cooper was unprecedented.

Nancy Cooper had attended a party with friends Friday night at neighbor Diana Duncan’s home. Duncan described the event as a cocktail party, but “very casual, sort of a normal Friday-night summer thing.” She said Nancy Cooper looked tired and said she had not been feeling well.

[jewels]

They said not on the jogging path! now im starting to think maybe hubby might know something!:1222423:

[sunstar]

They said not on the jogging path! now im starting to think maybe hubby might know something!:1222423:

I believe that too. It's close enough to make it look like something happened to her while she was jogging, but I'd bet she never saw daylight Saturday morning. :frown:

for Nancy :1222423:

[Audie]

I wonder why the Louis Vuitton purse was in the car.

[Audie]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

The best I can do. The instructions I have for posting a pic of the map don't work for me any more.

[sunstar]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

The best I can do. The instructions I have for posting a pic of the map don't work for me any more.

That worked very well ~ thank you! :smile:

[sunstar]

Prayers for Nancy's family and hopefully more details tomorrow morning. :1222423: Have a good night everybody! :happy0207:

[Audie]

That worked very well ~ thank you! :smile:There is a dirt road off of Holly Springs Rd that goes into the woods on the south end of the pond. It doesn't go all of the way thru though. If she was murdered (and I think she was .. JMO), I bet thats where her body was taken in. Accessibility and concealibility. Otherwise he would have had to park on the side of Fielding Dr.

Goodnight, sunstar.

[Heidi J.]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

The best I can do. The instructions I have for posting a pic of the map don't work for me any more.

Very close to home too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

Yellow person is their house. "B" is approx. location of body.

[5boxersmom]

:1222423:

[Harmony]

Very close to home too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

Yellow person is their house. "B" is approx. location of body.

Heidi, did you mean "A"? I can't find a "B" in that map. TIA

[Audie]

Very close to home too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=holly+springs+rd+and+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.216923,67.5&ie=UTF8&ll=35.724941,-78.747339&spn=0.003101,0.008283&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.73041,-78.75677&panoid=q-goAoKphIKH9qbn83VCag

Yellow person is their house. "B" is approx. location of body.Actually, the yellow person is something you can click on to get a street view. Try it. It's pretty cool. Drag your cursor over it. You can look up and down the street, up in the sky, down towards your feet, etc. "A" is just the intersection that I searched on. They actually live about a mile or so, to the northwest on Wallsburg Ct.

Wallsburg Ct to Coltsgait Dr to Lochmere Dr to Lilly Atkins Rd to Holly Springs Rd .. 1.5 miles. One mile the way the crow flys.

[KittyMom]

Heidi, did you mean "A"? I can't find a "B" in that map. TIA

lol...I was going all over that map trying to find the "B"

[KittyMom]

So the little yellow dude isn't where the body was found. It was in the water of the pond below the little yellow dude, correct?

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

The body was lying in dirt alongside a cul-de-sac that has been cut in preparation for a new subdivision, Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said.


Nancy has been missing since Saturday morning so was this the first time in days that this guy walked his dog in that area? Why wasn't she seen before now? If this is an area where work is being done, did no one see her during the day today?

"I never understood there to be anything in terms of a physical threat, but a tense marriage. No, I didn't have any specific reason other than just concern for my friend,” Adams said of reporting her friend missing.


How many of us could describe our marriages as "tense" at times? Especially with two small children and one income.

I'm wondering if she were assaulted.

[nanabillie]

Even with two grown children and two incomes. Well, if you count disabilty an income.

[KittyMom]

Even with two grown children and two incomes. Well, if you count disabilty an income.

true. My marriage gets really tense right before Dec 25th and Apr 15th. One is family the other is money...two things that will have me stiff as a board.

[grammybears]

Monday night, the Town of Cary issued the following media briefing:

The Town of Cary Police Department announced the discovery of a deceased woman Monday night, just outside the Town limits in the area of Lochmere.

While the body cannot be identified until a full medical examination is conducted, it is possible that the body could be that of Nancy Cooper, 34, of Wallsburg Court in Cary, who has been missing since Saturday.

“We’re not making any assumptions that this is Nancy, but we are working with the Wake County Sheriff’s Office to identify the body,” said Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore. “It is a sad and difficult time for all of us. Our hearts are with Mrs. Cooper’s family and close friends during this very trying time.”

At around 7:30 this evening, a man walking his dog called 911 to report seeing a person floating in a pond on Fielding Drive near Holly Springs Road.

Because the person was discovered in Wake County and not in the Town of Cary proper, the investigation is in the hands of the Wake County Sheriff’s Office.

Cooper was last seen by her husband early Saturday morning when she left her home to go running. She is a white female, 5 feet, 9 inches tall, about 120 pounds, with brown eyes and brown hair just past her shoulders. She may have been wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Crime Stoppers will pay up to $2,500 for information leading to the arrest or indictment of those responsible for committing certain types of crimes. If you have information, contact Crime Stoppers at 226-CRIM(E); you may also visit www.carycrimestoppers.net. All calls to Crime Stoppers are kept in complete confidence.

If you have information on this case, you can also call NC WANTED toll free at 1.866.43.WANTED or click on "Report a Tip" Your identity can be kept confidential.

http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3206587/
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[incidentally]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

"Brad Cooper told police his 34-year-old wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."

[Nut44x4]

Body found in Wake County could be missing jogger

Posted: Jul. 14 10:16 p.m.
Updated: Today at 5:34 a.m.

Cary, N.C. — A body was found Monday evening in Wake County, and police said they were looking into the possibility that it was the body of a missing Cary woman, Nancy Cooper.

The body was lying in dirt alongside a cul-de-sac that has been cut in preparation for a new subdivision, Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said.

“It is just a typical subdivision, with a lot of streets cut and cul-de-sacs cut, under construction. I don’t even think there is a house down this particular cul-de-sac,” Harrison added.

Cary police initially had said that a man who found the body while walking his dog had spotted it in a pond. The body was near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive, outside Cary city limits in the area of Lochmere.

That is not far from where the mother of two reportedly went missing.

“We’re not making any assumptions that this is Nancy, but we are working with the Wake County Sheriff’s Office to identify the body,” said Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore. “It is a sad and difficult time for all of us. Our hearts are with Mrs. Cooper’s family and close friends during this very trying time.”

Jessica Adams, a friend of Nancy Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. Saturday when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a news conference Monday evening.

Brad Cooper told police his 34-year-old wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."

Police sent the woman's body found Monday evening to the state medical examiner in Chapel Hill for identification.

"We have an unidentified female body and we are working very closely with Cary and tomorrow (Tuesday) morning they will find out from the autopsy, the cause of death and who this person is," Harrison said.

Police described Cooper as being 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds, with hazel eyes and brown hair that goes just past her shoulders. She was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Bazemore said that Brad Cooper was being cooperative and had agreed to let the police search the couple's house and cars. She confirmed that he had told police that they were experiencing marital problems.

"I never understood there to be anything in terms of a physical threat, but a tense marriage. No, I didn't have any specific reason other than just concern for my friend,” Adams said of reporting her friend missing.

Brad Cooper made his first public statement at an evening news conference, but did not answer any questions. He thanked all the volunteers and said he hopes anyone with information would come forward.

"I want to thank all the hundreds of volunteers who came out and are continuing to come and if anyone knows anything, I would like them to contact the police with any information they may have,” Brad Cooper said.

About 200 people have joined search parties that covered the areas of Lochmere Lake and Regency Park, which were believed to be routes Cooper regularly jogs. They also posted more than 2,000 fliers.

"The police have asked us to look a little bit further off the trail," search organizer Mike Morwick said Monday. "Yesterday, we covered every trail in the Lochmere Regency area. We're just going further, we're looking further into the brush to see if there's anything that might raise suspicion."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

[Audie]

So the little yellow dude isn't where the body was found. It was in the water of the pond below the little yellow dude, correct?Yes, if that is the correct pond. And that's the only pond I see near that intersection. Holly Springs Rd and Fielding Dr. that the media has been saying. Did you try clicking on the "little yellow dude", kitty? It's like you're standing right there.

[Audie]

Hmm, so now they are saying on land, not in water. Sheesh.

The body was lying in dirt alongside a cul-de-sac that has been cut in preparation for a new subdivision, Wake County Sheriff Donnie Harrison said.

“It is just a typical subdivision, with a lot of streets cut and cul-de-sacs cut, under construction. I don’t even think there is a house down this particular cul-de-sac,” Harrison added.

Cary police initially had said that a man who found the body while walking his dog had spotted it in a pond. The body was near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive, outside Cary city limits in the area of Lochmere.


http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

[Faith]

OMG awful-- :1222423::1222423::1222423:

[SavannahStar]

Uh oh. Doesn't sound good.

[Audie]

I guess I'm going to back off one of my earlier posts where I said that IMO she was murdered. I still lean that way, but now that she wasn't found floating in the pond, I'm not sure. I need more (correct) info.

If it is her, she was only out there 2 days, so she ought to be IDd fairly quickly and any evidence hasn't been lost.

[Audie]

Well, I'm at a loss. Mapquest, Google and Google Earth aren't showing any new roads cut or construction in that area. Maps are too old I guess.

[Audie]

This is from maps.live.com. Looks like a pic taken from a plane during the winter.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=pymp2x8f3yqx&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=19574090&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

[jewels]

Someone on websleuths is saying her husband is on video buying bleach at 400 am ! yikes. That isnt good! reminds me of bobby cutts! This persons child works at the convenience store where it occured. jmo

[Audie]

Someone on websleuths is saying her husband is on video buying bleach at 400 am ! yikes. That isnt good! reminds me of bobby cutts! This persons child works at the convenience store where it occured. jmoDo you have a link for websleuths, jewels? I've never been to that site. TIA.

[jewels]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2381892&posted=1#post2381892

[Audie]

Fox News saying there is a presser happening right now.

[Audie]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2381892&posted=1#post2381892Cool, thanks again.

[Faith]

FoxNews says another press conference at 5pm.

LE says this is an isolated case. The public is not in danger.

Still waiting for a positive ID

[Grande]

My thoughts are with Nancy's family and friends this morning.

:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[jewels]

FoxNews says another press conference at 5pm.

LE says this is an isolated case. The public is not in danger.

Still waiting for a positive ID

Maybe by 5 They will have identified the body. This doesnt look too good! They are not warning joggers. jmo :0009:

[Audie]

On Fox News they gave a complete different location where they found the body. I was on the the phone and all I heard was 5 miles from their home. Did anyone catch that location?

[Faith]

On Fox News they gave a complete different location where they found the body. I was on the the phone and all I heard was 5 miles from their home. Did anyone catch that location?

It wasn't clear what she said, hopefully we are about to learn more on Fox.

[jewels]

On Fox News they gave a complete different location where they found the body. I was on the the phone and all I heard was 5 miles from their home. Did anyone catch that location?

I thought it was a new cut road off of holly springs road.:0009:

[Kosmo]

:1222423:

My thoughts and prayers go out to this family!! Those poor little babies...

[KittyMom]

Yes, if that is the correct pond. And that's the only pond I see near that intersection. Holly Springs Rd and Fielding Dr. that the media has been saying. Did you try clicking on the "little yellow dude", kitty? It's like you're standing right there.

Yep...so cool.

[KittyMom]

Guys...we keep reposting the same news reports. Let's check previous pages before posting so we're sure we're posting new info. I'm guilty of not checking back.

[KittyMom]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2381892&posted=1#post2381892

He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. My child works at this store and management did not state to not speak about it.

wow

So, did he leave the kids alone in the house.

[SavannahStar]

I'm not sure I'd completely believe an anonymous poster (websleuths)....I'll wait to hear news from LE.

[Audie]

I still haven't figured out where this location is, but I did find an area that might match. One of the latest news sites is still saying Holly Springs Rd and now a culdesac at "The Oaks at Meadowridge" subdivision. That subdivision is supposed to be on Fielding Dr (off of Holly Springs Rd). If you go all of the way to the dead end of Fielding Dr, there is an area cut out for new construction. A perfect place (better than that other pond) to put a body. The perp would have to know, though, that she would still be found sooner or later with construction going on there.
JMO

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1142058.html

[Audie]

You will have to go full screen, then click on the yellow dude to get the street view, then drag it around to see the dead end.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4600+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=35.723486,-78.735881&sspn=0.012403,0.033131&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=35.723765,-78.734593&spn=0.012403,0.033131&t=h&z=15&cbll=35.718578,-78.736686&panoid=4Lm19FYVBNn5WztKU_4Gxw&cbp=1,173.24743277428297,,0,2.5045206842416982

[Grande]

Thanks Audie!

[nanabillie]

Audie, Is that hard to do? The google map thinge.

[Heidi J.]

Heidi, did you mean "A"? I can't find a "B" in that map. TIA

Yes, I am sorry.:blondblush113268230

[Grande]

Audie, Is that hard to do? The google map thinge.

Hi nanabillie! You can download it here, it's very user friendly.

http://pack.google.com/intl/en/integrated_eula.html?hl=en&ciint=ci_earth&ci_earth=onciint=ci_earth&utm_source=en-cdr-earth4&utm_medium=cdr&utm_campaign=en

[nanabillie]

Thanks Grande!

[jewels]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2381892&posted=1#post2381892



wow

So, did he leave the kids alone in the house.

Im thinking he probally did! If they got into a fight after the kids were a sleep and he killed her. He probally left them and also when he went to the store at 400am. If he is the murderer that is. im starting to think he probally is. The police wouldnt release anything about the tape until he is aressted. Le knows something because they say its a isolated incident and the public is not in danger. jmo

[Audie]

Audie, Is that hard to do? The google map thinge.
Not for me. But I have been messing with it for awhile. I'm not very good at getting it posted here though, lol.

[Kosmo]

Im thinking he probally did! If they got into a fight after the kids were a sleep and he killed her. He probally left them and also when he went to the store at 400am. If he is the murderer that is. im starting to think he probally is. The police wouldnt release anything about the tape until he is aressted. Le knows something because they say its a isolated incident and the public is not in danger. jmo



Has the LE actually released information from the tape? I thought it was just hearsay for right now? I could be wrong though... It has happened a few times before.

If he did do this.. And I am only saying if as we don't have that info yet, why do spouses not just divorce? What goes through someones mind that they can't just walk away?? :0009:

[Heidi J.]

Pictures (http://www.wral.com/news/local/image_gallery/3208444/)

:tender: Her daughters are gorgeous.

:1222423:

[Heidi J.]

Has the LE actually released information from the tape? I thought it was just hearsay for right now? I could be wrong though... It has happened a few times before.

If he did do this.. And I am only saying if as we don't have that info yet, why do spouses not just divorce? What goes through someones mind that they can't just walk away?? :0009:



:attention:Hearsay.

[Kosmo]

Pictures (http://www.wral.com/news/local/image_gallery/3208444/)

:tender: Her daughters are gorgeous.

:1222423:


Absolutely gorgeous!!! This is a true heart breaker... :000a1:

[KittyMom]

Can you imagine how hard its going to for those babies to have their aunt there and their mommy not there?

[nanabillie]

Kosmo, after reading last night about the beautiful soldier whose husband killed her; I can still hear Lacy Peterson's Mom saying "You didn't have to kill her".
Breaks a Mother's heart

[jewels]

Has the LE actually released information from the tape? I thought it was just hearsay for right now? I could be wrong though... It has happened a few times before.

If he did do this.. And I am only saying if as we don't have that info yet, why do spouses not just divorce? What goes through someones mind that they can't just walk away?? :0009:

No they havent released anything. JMO. just my own speculation.

[Heidi J.]

Can you imagine how hard its going to for those babies to have their aunt there and their mommy not there?

Ugh.. your right.. they are twins.:cray:

[Kosmo]

Kosmo, after reading last night about the beautiful soldier whose husband killed her; I can still hear Lacy Peterson's Mom saying "You didn't have to kill her".
Breaks a Mother's heart

It is sad isn't nana?? I just don't get it.. I can't imagine one parent putting their own children through something like that because of the other parent.. It would absolutely crush me if something happened to my kids' dad.. To see the pain in their eyes... And if I was the one to cause that pain??? OH LORD!! LIke I said I just don't get it...

What a beautiful pic you have on your name nana!!!

[Blessed]

What beautiful girls!! My heart aches for them. Even if the body isn't Nancy, their mom is missing but I'm afraid it will turn out to be her. As always, I hope and pray their dad isn't responsible.

[Jessie50]

The body was Nancy Cooper.

Press conference on CNN Headlines now. Not a random act. Husband not at press conference.

[jewels]

The body was Nancy Cooper.

Press conference on CNN Headlines now. Not a random act. Husband not at press conference.

I think he knows. I hope the children are not with him! JMO

[Audie]

Does anyone remember reading where the vehicles were parked? Driveway? Or in the garage?

[jewels]

Does anyone remember reading where the vehicles were parked? Driveway? Or in the garage?

I thought driveway,but i could be wrong. Ive been following all 3 case in nc so its all starting to run together. just sad! :1222423:

[Kaylynn]

I think he knows. I hope the children are not with him! JMO

I remember reading in one of the news articles that the children are not with him. I think they are staying with Nancys family, who flew in from Canada.

[Texy]

:attention:Hearsay.

I've got another hearsay for you. I was shopping in Raleigh today and ran into a woman who is friends with one of Nancy's best friends. She said Nancy had been trying to get her husband to move out of the house and he had been refusing to do so.

[sunstar]

The body was Nancy Cooper.

Press conference on CNN Headlines now. Not a random act. Husband not at press conference.

Thank you ~ I just got home and saw this. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

My prayers for her two precious little children. :1222423:

[sunstar]

Update from wral.com ~

Body identified as missing Cary mom

Updated: 22 minutes ago

Cary, N.C. — Police say the body found Monday night in an undeveloped subdivision just outside Cary's town limit is that of Nancy Cooper, the 34-year-old mother of two whose friend reported her missing Saturday when she failed to show up for a visit.

"The search for our Nancy is over," Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore said at a news conference Tuesday evening, accompanied by Cooper's parents, twin sister and brother. "Nancy was murdered, and our investigation is now a homicide."

A man walking his dog near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive – less than three miles from Cooper's home – found Cooper's body lying on the bank of a storm water pond near a cul-de-sac at the Oaks at Meadowridge subdivision.

Bazemore said investigators do not have a suspect or person of interest in the case, but that they do not believe it was a random crime. She declined further disclosures about the investigation, including a cause of death.

"We are appalled and outraged by this terrible tragedy," Bazemore said. "And as chief of this department, I promise each one of you, nothing will stand in our way to ensure a swift and certain closure to this case."

Cooper is survived by her husband, Brad Cooper; daughters, Bella, 4, and Katie, 2; parents Garry and Donna Rentz, of Edmonton, Alberta; a brother, Jeff Rentz, and two sisters, Khrista Lister, her identical twin, of Toronto, and Jill Dean, of Edmonton.

"The wheel that is our family is missing a spoke. And while that wheel is now forever changed, it's incumbent on us to adapt so we may continue to spin," Cooper's brother, Jeff Rentz, said. "Nancy is a mother, a daughter and a sister, and that's how we'll keep her alive in our hearts."

Town of Cary spokeswoman Susan Moran said she did not anticipate any more information about the case would be released Tuesday. Any new information to be made public would be available at a news conference scheduled for 9 a.m. Wednesday, she said. (Watch it live on WRAL.com.)

more at: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/

[KittyMom]

http://www.wlos.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.nc/2251e163-www.wlos.com.shtml

Late Tuesday afternoon, police surrounded the Cooper home with crime scene tape.


this is an epidemic

[KittyMom]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67337&page=14

According to some Websleuthers, the run to the store for cleaner came up at the pc and LE seemed surprised that the info was out. Also, when the question was asked Nancy's dad started nodding yes. I didn't see the pc but would love to.

[KittyMom]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5378538&page=1

Authorities declined to comment on reports that Brad Cooper had allegedly purchased bleach the night before his wife's disappearance.

[sunstar]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67337&page=14

According to some Websleuthers, the run to the store for cleaner came up at the pc and LE seemed surprised that the info was out. Also, when the question was asked Nancy's dad started nodding yes. I didn't see the pc but would love to.

It's very odd to me to have to run to the store at such an early morning hour for something like that, unless you're trying to do a hurry-up cleaning of something major. MOO! :smile:

[Heidi J.]

I've got another hearsay for you. I was shopping in Raleigh today and ran into a woman who is friends with one of Nancy's best friends. She said Nancy had been trying to get her husband to move out of the house and he had been refusing to do so.

I have heard that too.

"Nancy is a mother, a daughter and a sister, and that's how we'll keep her alive in our hearts."
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/
hmmm.. she'e a wife too. Wonder why that was left out?:g:

[sunstar]

I have heard that too.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/
hmmm.. she'e a wife too. Wonder why that was left out?:g:
Because they probably believe he is the one who killed her. I still think maybe Nancy told her friend something which made her call LE right away when she failed to show up Sat. afternoon.

[Heidi J.]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67337&page=14

According to some Websleuthers, the run to the store for cleaner came up at the pc and LE seemed surprised that the info was out. Also, when the question was asked Nancy's dad started nodding yes. I didn't see the pc but would love to.

I would have like to see it too. I normally like to hold my judgement of people, but it seems everything keeps coming back to him. Of course police are not going to name him a POI or suspect right now, but you know it's coming. The police have stated this is an isolated incident. That is a very telling sentance.

:1222423: For Katie and Bella's mommy :cray:

[Heidi J.]

Because they probably believe he is the one who killed her. I still think maybe Nancy told her friend something which made her call LE right away when she failed to show up Sat. afternoon.

Yes, I agree. If I were to be a 1/2 hour late my hubby would be worried. 5 hours.. there would be search parties already formed.

[sunstar]

I would have like to see it too. I normally like to hold my judgement of people, but it seems everything keeps coming back to him. Of course police are not going to name him a POI or suspect right now, but you know it's coming. The police have stated this is an isolated incident. That is a very telling sentance.

:1222423: For Katie and Bella's mommy :cray:

I'm waiting to see what Greta says tonight! :smile: Except for the link from wral.com, most of what I've learned tonight has come from reading posts.

[sunstar]

Yes, I agree. If I were to be a 1/2 hour late my hubby would be worried. 5 hours.. there would be search parties already formed.

First, I'd have my cellphone and ID with me when I left home. If I was even an hour late getting home he'd be calling that phone and if there wasn't any answer he'd be out looking for me. Nancy's husband says she left home basically without anything, so where did he think she went after jogging? Unless of course he knew she didn't. To me, that's suspicious itself, since he didn't seem to be at all worried after she was over 5 hrs. late coming back. :frown:

[annalyzer]

I wonder if he'll lawyer up and keep his mouth shut like Jason Young.

[Faith]

My condolences to Nancy's family.

My heart aches for her precious little girls.

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[KittyMom]

I have to admit, when I heard the first (incorrect) report that she was found in a body of water, that she had been tired at the party, and with the ages of her children, I thought that maybe she'd committed suicide. Truthfully, I still hope that that is a possibility as I hate to think that those two beautiful babies may lose their mommy and their daddy.

[sunstar]

I have to admit, when I heard the first (incorrect) report that she was found in a body of water, that she had been tired at the party, and with the ages of her children, I thought that maybe she'd committed suicide. Truthfully, I still hope that that is a possibility as I hate to think that those two beautiful babies may lose their mommy and their daddy.

Before I left for work this morning, Fox News was covering the story and when they quoted LE as saying the public didn't have to worry about a predator, someone suggested maybe because it was suicide. But tonight's report is definitely a homicide.

[sunstar]

I wonder if he'll lawyer up and keep his mouth shut like Jason Young.

I hope, if he did it, he doesn't have time and is arrested! The circumstances are different, even though most of us believe Jason was involved in Michelle's murder, in this case the husband was home and doesn't have another alibi to exclude him ~ especially if LE finds Nancy was killed inside the house.

[sunstar]

Amanda Lamb on the phone with Greta ~ Crime scene tape around the house, officers stationed at the house, Brad Cooper probably not in the home. Not a public safety threat, isolated incident, LE saying publicly no suspect yet. Doesn't know where the children are. Nancy's family in from Canada, could be helping with the children, other people have offered their help. LE not releasing cause of death at this point. LE not saying what she was wearing or the state of her body. Nancy was last seen around midnight Friday/Sat. after leaving neighborhood dinner party only husband says she was alive that morning. More with Dr. Baden after the commerical.

[Audie]

First, I'd have my cellphone and ID with me when I left home. If I was even an hour late getting home he'd be calling that phone and if there wasn't any answer he'd be out looking for me. Nancy's husband says she left home basically without anything, so where did he think she went after jogging? Unless of course he knew she didn't. To me, that's suspicious itself, since he didn't seem to be at all worried after she was over 5 hrs. late coming back. :frown:I would think that her friend that normally jogs with her, the one that reported her missing, would know for sure if Nancy carried anything with her on a jog. I imagine LE has already questioned her on that.

For anyone:
About the purse .. what woman would leave her Louis Vitan (sp?) purse in the car? Maybe just briefly while she took something else in, like groceries or the kids. Depending on where the kids were, he could have done something to her on the way home from the party and forgot about her purse.

Just throwing some things out there. What do you think?

[Audie]

Amanda Lamb on the phone with Greta ~ Crime scene tape around the house, officers stationed at the house, Brad Cooper probably not in the home. Not a public safety threat, isolated incident, LE saying publicly no suspect yet. Doesn't know where the children are. Nancy's family in from Canada, could be helping with the children, other people have offered their help. LE not releasing cause of death at this point. LE not saying what she was wearing or the state of her body. Nancy was last seen around midnight Friday/Sat. after leaving neighborhood dinner party only husband says she was alive that morning. More with Dr. Baden after the commerical.My dish network is out .. for greta only. Arggg!

[sunstar]

I would think that her friend that normally jogs with her, the one that reported her missing, would know for sure if Nancy carried anything with her on a jog. I imagine LE has already questioned her on that.

For anyone:
About the purse .. what woman would leave her Louis Vitan (sp?) purse in the car? Maybe just briefly while she took something else in, like groceries or the kids. Depending on where the kids were, he could have done something to her on the way home from the party and forgot about her purse.

Just throwing some things out there. What do you think?

I still think it depends on if the car was in the garage with an electronic garage door that is lockable. I have to admit I leave mine in my car (not a LV though!). I've known other women who do the same, especially when they have a lot of stuff to take in and out of the car when the go out like Nancy would with the 2 small children. :smile:

[sunstar]

My dish network is out .. for greta only. Arggg!

Basically that's all she said, then Dr. Baden came on and gave some ideas about establishing time of death or how long Nancy had been where she was found. Just the usual! :smile:

[Oceanblueeyes]

I still think it depends on if the car was in the garage with an electronic garage door that is lockable. I have to admit I leave mine in my car (not a LV though!). I've known other women who do the same, especially when they have a lot of stuff to take in and out of the car when the go out like Nancy would with the 2 small children. :smile:

I sure have done it and even when I am using my LV purses but this entire thing sounds fishy to me Sun.

I am so afraid he is the one who did this. How horrible for Nancy and the precious children.

imoo

[Audie]

Basically that's all she said, then Dr. Baden came on and gave some ideas about establishing time of death or how long Nancy had been where she was found. Just the usual! :smile:Thanks, sunstar. I guess it's time to call dish about this receiver. I'm glad I was able to see the presser, yesterday, on CNN HLN. They were the only ones to do it, I think.

[StickyBeak]

Press Conference 9AM

Cary, N.C. — Cary police plan to hold a news conference at 9 a.m. Wednesday to update the public on the case of a murdered Cary mom, whose body was found Monday night.

Watch it LIVE on WRAL.com

[Kosmo]

My first thought was the brother didn't say wife too.... I think the thing that will be the deciding factor in this case will be the "time of death".

[Audie]

http://www.wral.com/news/video/3214241/

[StickyBeak]

No New information. No POI at this time. Did not release COD, Home is being searched for evidence, husband staying with friends taking care of children. He did not show to PC. So sad, no funeral arrangements. LE still saying this is an isolated incident. No worries for public.

Next PC Thur. 9am .

[SavannahStar]

Thanks audie and StickyBeak. I caught the last of it.

I LOVED the way that lady would repeat the questions asked of her. That is one of my pet peeves in PCs...you cannot hear the questions, and the person will answer them but you still don't know what the question was, most often!!! Grrrrr!

[Audie]

A couple things I caught were that the crime scene (where Nancy's body was found) has been released and a search warrant has been issued for Brad (assuming that is to get his dna, other samples, inspect his person, etc).

[Audie]

wral.com has the videos from the last press conferences on their website, so I think they will have this one on soon.

[SavannahStar]

There will be another PC at 9 a.m. tomorrow or, if anything significant develops, at any time.

[Audie]

There will be another PC at 9 a.m. tomorrow or, if anything significant develops, at any time.I wonder why they continue to have PCs when they can't release any info. Unless they know that they have info to give soon, but are waiting for the right time. Sheesh, this waiting is tough on me. I can only imagine what it's like on the family. And the perp too, lol.

[StickyBeak]

Her Parents and Sister look stunned, I can't imagine how they are coping with all this non information. My brother lives about 45 min away from Cary, my SIL said they all think the husband did it and are very cautous about going out alone even though LE said there is not a threat. Makes you wonder what the police know, if perhaps a "significant other" is involved. The crime scene is released now they have moved onto the house with search warrant. Did you hear the question if Luminol was used at all during the search? No Comment and if Husband has retained an attorney, No information on that as well. I guess we await the autopsy report. Was there a incident of Husband choking her? I may have the wrong case.

[KittyMom]

I have to say, with all the cases we've seen lately, what husband wouldn't feel uncomfortable being at a news conference. The auto response is to think the husband responsible.

[KittyMom]

someone posted this link on the wral.com message board

http://www.adventuresofbrad.com/joomla/

It would appear to be Brad Cooper. Talks about computer stuff, completing MBA, and working out.

[KittyMom]

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

Many of Nancy Cooper's closest friends have been talking about what they know and what they believe to have happened. Most everyone agrees that the latest of many affairs Brad Cooper has been involved in was too much for Nancy to bear.

Although adultery isn't a crime, it has led to countless murders and assaults. A crime of passion they call it. Just can't help yourself. Till death do you part.

Imagine knowing that the argument or anger that led to Nancy's murder was because of your lack of loyalty, your poor sense of judgment, your part in the betrayal, how would you live with yourself? And imagine thinking nobody knows but they do, they all do. Everyone knows what the anger was all about. Everyone knows why Nancy wanted out.

Friends are talking, they are talking to police and they are talking to us, telling us what they feel set this tragedy into motion.

I'm sure this crime has so many eyes and ears is because too many women and men have found themselves at the end of this same rope, betrayed, isolated, desperate to find a way out. We can all identify with the emotional struggles of a marriage teetering on the brink. If we haven't been thru it ourselves we know someone that has. It's a tinderbox, a dangerous, highly combustible part of at nearly half of all of the divorcing couple's final days, weeks, even months together. Too often an assault or even murder will be a part of that struggle to free yourself from a situation you have no control over. For people with issues of control, violence seems to be the norm.

This tragic murder will break up the neighborhood's superficial camaraderie, but just before it implodes, someone will be thrown to the lions.

Friends of the Coopers tell us that Nancy Cooper wanted out of her marriage to husband Brad Cooper, she had had enough of the extra-marital relationship Brad Cooper carried on with a friend of hers. Nancy and the children had just returned home from a respite visit with her family in Canada when she broke the news to her husband that she was leaving and taking the two children with her. She had enough and she told him that.

Questions arise from the get go, why didn't he report her missing, why did it take one of Nancy's best friends to call police? She had allegedly been gone for over 7 hours.

Then there are the rumors that have Brad at the grocery at 4 that morning purchasing laundry detergent with bleach.

MOMTO3KIDS POSTED: I have a strong feeling her husband Brad has something to do with this. The police are in possession of a video with Brad early Saturday morning at a local store. He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. My child works at this store and management did not state to not speak about it. I feel this is a crucial piece of evidence indicating something had occurred.

Just after the Cary Police Press Conference, police pulled out the crime scene tape to seal off the Cooper house. Seal it off I might add after several friend's of the family went in and out all morning. One might anticipate that tonight luminol will be used to look for traces of blood and body fluid.

The autopsy should have narrowed down a time of death, forensics of the gathered material taken from shoes, socks, clothing and attempt to prove or disprove any outdoor activity that may have left residue or evidence that at some point Nancy was in fact jogging. Blood samples will have been taken to look for toxins. Stomach contents closely looked at to help gauge the time of death.

Apparently enough evidence was presented to a judge in order to receive a search warrant today for the home. Hopefully the warrant will be made available to the media, along with an inventory of items taken from the home.

While there has been no arrest yet there are equally if not more important issues to address. It is an unacceptable risk to allow 2 precious little children to spend one more second of unsupervised time with the killer of their mother. Even supervised, who will check him for weapons, who could stop him from holding them hostage?

Some reading our reports regarding this murder may want to take issue with us about our biased treatment of Brad Cooper and how it might effect law enforcement's efforts to arrest him for the murder. Before you send off that angry email stop and think that anyone desperate enough to take the life of the woman that gave birth to his children, may in fact be equally as desperate to not only take his own life but that of his children. We've seen done all too often. These two innocent children, left alone in that house with him, are in danger. Children come first, always. You have to protect the children.

Rest in peace Nancy, your babies will be safe.

[Blessed]

Heard confirmation body is Nancy after I got home last evening. My heart literally breaks for those two beautiful little girls. This will change the path of their lives from this moment on. They will never be the same again. Doesn't look good for the husband which just makes it all the worse for the girls. Until I know otherwise, I'm going to continue hoping and praying that he wasn't involved . . .

:cray:

:1222423:

Going back to catch up :INhouseReading04:

[mandysmom]

So sorry this has ended this way. I'm not going to point my finger at the hubby just yet, but it's not looking good for him.

RIP Nancy.

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[awakening2lite]

EXCERPT

Detectives executed a search warrant Wednesday for the house and vehicles belonging to a slain North Carolina mother and her husband.

Authorities launched a murder investigation a day earlier, after the body of 34-year-old Nancy Cooper was found near where her husband said she'd gone jogging.

The search warrant includes the house that Nancy and Brad Cooper shared, their two vehicles and forensic evidence from Brad Cooper, himself.

EXCERPT

Bazemore added that Brad Cooper had planned to attend Tuesday’s news conference with authorities and the woman’s family, but he declined at the last minute.

Bazemore declined to comment on whether or not Cooper’s body had suffered defensive wounds and would not confirm or deny reports that Brad Cooper had purchased bleach at a local convenience store just hours before his wife’s body was found.

"We do not have a suspect now," Bazemore said. "We will not stop until we find them."

source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383502,00.html

[Kosmo]

Friends of the Coopers tell us that Nancy Cooper wanted out of her marriage to husband Brad Cooper, she had had enough of the extra-marital relationship Brad Cooper carried on with a friend of hers. Nancy and the children had just returned home from a respite visit with her family in Canada when she broke the news to her husband that she was leaving and taking the two children with her. She had enough and she told him that.


Not much of a friend....

[SavannahStar]

Friends of the Coopers tell us that Nancy Cooper wanted out of her marriage to husband Brad Cooper, she had had enough of the extra-marital relationship Brad Cooper carried on with a friend of hers. Nancy and the children had just returned home from a respite visit with her family in Canada when she broke the news to her husband that she was leaving and taking the two children with her. She had enough and she told him that.


Not much of a friend....


Where is that from? :confused:

[Heidi J.]

So sorry this has ended this way. I'm not going to point my finger at the hubby just yet, but it's not looking good for him.

RIP Nancy.

:1222423:

I know, I hate to judge people.. but it is not looking too good for him right now.

O/T.. nice avitar! lol

[Heidi J.]

EXCERPT

Detectives executed a search warrant Wednesday for the house and vehicles belonging to a slain North Carolina mother and her husband.

Authorities launched a murder investigation a day earlier, after the body of 34-year-old Nancy Cooper was found near where her husband said she'd gone jogging.

The search warrant includes the house that Nancy and Brad Cooper shared, their two vehicles and forensic evidence from Brad Cooper, himself.

EXCERPT

Bazemore added that Brad Cooper had planned to attend Tuesday’s news conference with authorities and the woman’s family, but he declined at the last minute.

Bazemore declined to comment on whether or not Cooper’s body had suffered defensive wounds and would not confirm or deny reports that Brad Cooper had purchased bleach at a local convenience store just hours before his wife’s body was found.

"We do not have a suspect now," Bazemore said. "We will not stop until we find them."

source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383502,00.html


I like the police chief. She seems to know what she is doing. I am sure they want Brad to cooperate as much as possible, so even if he is a suspect or POI, they are not going to announce it, because once they do.. he's lawyering up.

The PC yesterday was very telling. The body language of her family and the statement of the brother that "left out that Nancy was a wife". That basically did it for me. I do hate to judge.. but it looks to me like hubby may have something to hide.

Also, WRAL has a video of where the body was found, definately a drainage or retention type pond. Right off the cul-de-sac, very small.

[sunstar]

EXCERPT

Detectives executed a search warrant Wednesday for the house and vehicles belonging to a slain North Carolina mother and her husband.

Authorities launched a murder investigation a day earlier, after the body of 34-year-old Nancy Cooper was found near where her husband said she'd gone jogging.

The search warrant includes the house that Nancy and Brad Cooper shared, their two vehicles and forensic evidence from Brad Cooper, himself.

EXCERPT

Bazemore added that Brad Cooper had planned to attend Tuesday’s news conference with authorities and the woman’s family, but he declined at the last minute.

Bazemore declined to comment on whether or not Cooper’s body had suffered defensive wounds and would not confirm or deny reports that Brad Cooper had purchased bleach at a local convenience store just hours before his wife’s body was found.

"We do not have a suspect now," Bazemore said. "We will not stop until we find them."

source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383502,00.html
I just have a couple minutes to drop in now, but this is sure different than some story I read elsewhere last night that he was out buying detergent with bleach at 4am on Saturday, when Nancy was supposed to still be alive, and giving the impression he'd left the kids alone while he's out buying something to cover up Nancy's murder. I believe there's a good chance he did this, but I wish stories would get straight before rumors get started. :smile:

[Kosmo]

where is that from? :confused:


#158

[StickyBeak]

LE removed 6 bags of evidence from the house. Nancy's friends have commented at www.Bluelineradio.com that she was fed up with Brad's infidelities. Supposedly Brad's parents knew nothing about this and are on their way to Cary. www.Medicinehatnews.com I can't get on the site, probably too busy. On the one site someone reported that brad had scratch marks on his arms, he is wearing long sleeve shirt and jeans in 90 degree weather. I have trying not to put him in the chair just yet, but sure is leaning that way.
Funeral arrangements I suppose will pend release of her body and to whom? If he is arrested...... So Sad those sweet little babies.

[SavannahStar]

#158


I appreciate that.....but I think we need to have a link in the post. I can't figure out that site, is it like a message board? I know on another thread on here Pauli said we could not copy posts from another board and post them here, but we can just post a link instead. It's very confusing to see something like that and not have a clue where it's from, without going back in the thread.

I dunno....there's a whole lot of gossip going on and like another poster said, I'd rather wait until LE comes out with facts.

(All that being said, I am leaning toward the husband did it.)

[StickyBeak]

I appreciate that.....but I think we need to have a link in the post. I can't figure out that site, is it like a message board? I know on another thread on here Pauli said we could not copy posts from another board and post them here, but we can just post a link instead. It's very confusing to see something like that and not have a clue where it's from, without going back in the thread.

I dunno....there's a whole lot of gossip going on and like another poster said, I'd rather wait until LE comes out with facts.

(All that being said, I am leaning toward the husband did it.)


Hi SS, click on the blueline radio link when it open, clink on web, it goes to a page, just scroll down to article that says He has the kids, that is where friends comments are.

[SavannahStar]

Thanks SB!

[annalyzer]

Where is that from? :confused:

As in the Michelle Young case we are going to hear a lot of "gossip" and rumors from "insiders". From my past experience a lot of it is fact/truth or at least as close to it as you'll get until a trial.

[mandysmom]

I know, I hate to judge people.. but it is not looking too good for him right now.

O/T.. nice avitar! lol
Thanks, lol. I found it and started laughing. I need a laugh now and then.

:happy0207:

[Kosmo]

I appreciate that.....but I think we need to have a link in the post. I can't figure out that site, is it like a message board? I know on another thread on here Pauli said we could not copy posts from another board and post them here, but we can just post a link instead. It's very confusing to see something like that and not have a clue where it's from, without going back in the thread.

I dunno....there's a whole lot of gossip going on and like another poster said, I'd rather wait until LE comes out with facts.

(All that being said, I am leaning toward the husband did it.)


I just was commenting on that post I didn't actually post it.. I'm sorry if I did that wrong I am still a newbie :doh:

[SavannahStar]

I just was commenting on that post I didn't actually post it.. I'm sorry if I did that wrong I am still a newbie :doh:

Not a problem. :)

[awakening2lite]

I just have a couple minutes to drop in now, but this is sure different than some story I read elsewhere last night that he was out buying detergent with bleach at 4am on Saturday, when Nancy was supposed to still be alive, and giving the impression he'd left the kids alone while he's out buying something to cover up Nancy's murder. I believe there's a good chance he did this, but I wish stories would get straight before rumors get started. :smile:


That's one of the reasons I posted from FoxNews. FoxNews interviewed Cary, N.C., Police Chief Patricia Bazemore. Statements from the LE are usually more reliable than reporters interviews of unnamed parties.

reference: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383502,00.html

[awakening2lite]

I like the police chief. She seems to know what she is doing. I am sure they want Brad to cooperate as much as possible, so even if he is a suspect or POI, they are not going to announce it, because once they do.. he's lawyering up.

The PC yesterday was very telling. The body language of her family and the statement of the brother that "left out that Nancy was a wife". That basically did it for me. I do hate to judge.. but it looks to me like hubby may have something to hide.

Also, WRAL has a video of where the body was found, definately a drainage or retention type pond. Right off the cul-de-sac, very small.


I agree, it's not good looking for for him or he is looking good for this, depending on the point of view.

[awakening2lite]

LE removed 6 bags of evidence from the house. Nancy's friends have commented at www.Bluelineradio.com that she was fed up with Brad's infidelities. Supposedly Brad's parents knew nothing about this and are on their way to Cary. www.Medicinehatnews.com I can't get on the site, probably too busy. On the one site someone reported that brad had scratch marks on his arms, he is wearing long sleeve shirt and jeans in 90 degree weather. I have trying not to put him in the chair just yet, but sure is leaning that way.
Funeral arrangements I suppose will pend release of her body and to whom? If he is arrested...... So Sad those sweet little babies.

Here's the image you may have been referring to:

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/ftp/071608-web-Cooper.jpg
Brad Cooper, front, is escorted out of his house by Cary police detectives after an autopsy report came back identifying his wife Nancy Cooper as the body that was discovered Monday night in a pond in Cary, N.C. Cooper had been reported missing since Saturday morning when she left her Lochmere home to go running.

source: http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35915/

[sunstar]

That's one of the reasons I posted from FoxNews. FoxNews interviewed Cary, N.C., Police Chief Patricia Bazemore. Statements from the LE are usually more reliable than reporters interviews of unnamed parties.

reference: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,383502,00.html

Hi! :0012: And I thank you very much for that too! I totally agree.

I still think LE must be considering him their prime suspect since this statement doesn't give much option for anyone else:
"Bazemore said police "still believe this is an isolated case" and urged area residents not to worry."

[TeeOne]

This story is on Nancy Grace right now.

[sunstar]

This story is on Nancy Grace right now.

I'm watching! :smile:

[Heidi J.]

I'm watching! :smile:

Please keep us updated! TIA!:happy0158:

[sunstar]

Please keep us updated! TIA!:happy0158:

It's over now, but basically she was just going over everything we already know. The most interesting parts we still have questions on, still have no answers ~ like him going out to the store in the early morning, cause of death, etc. :shrug1:

[StickyBeak]

Ty Awakenin2Light, I did finally get on that site. I do really hope for the childrens sakes their Father be innocent.

[sunstar]

Ty Awakenin2Light, I did finally get on that site. I do really hope for the childrens sakes their Father be innocent.

I hope too, but it's not looking very much like it's a random stranger who killed her either. And it's so unlikely, imo, that she really went jogging at 7am and was killed while out there with so many people around. Where she was found wasn't on her usual route either. :frown:

[StickyBeak]

Brad Cooper has lawyered up,

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

Brad Cooper had no comment, but his attorneys, Howard Kurtz and Seth Blum, released a statement Wednesday afternoon saying he would not answer questions from the media but would continue cooperating with police.

"Brad is devastated by the news of Nancy's death," the statement read. "He has and will continue to assist in law enforcement efforts to bring his wife's killer or killers to justice."

Investigators were back at the Cooper home Wednesday evening. They took inside several empty boxes.

[Heidi J.]

It's over now, but basically she was just going over everything we already know. The most interesting parts we still have questions on, still have no answers ~ like him going out to the store in the early morning, cause of death, etc. :shrug1:

Thanks. Has it said in the news he went to the store? Or is that hearsay too? I forget. :waitasec:

[sunstar]

Thanks. Has it said in the news he went to the store? Or is that hearsay too? I forget. :waitasec:

LE has been asked during p/c and won't comment. :smile:

[StickyBeak]

I hope too, but it's not looking very much like it's a random stranger who killed her either. And it's so unlikely, imo, that she really went jogging at 7am and was killed while out there with so many people around. Where she was found wasn't on her usual route either. :frown:


Hi Sunstar, so sad, You say not her normal route for running, others say no one would run in this area. Have you heard anymore regarding her running partner no one knew, Connie, I think. LE keeping it pretty tight lipped. God she just came back from visit to her parents, supposedly wanting Brad out of the home due to his marital infidelity, I wonder what if anything she told them, they really seem very stoic at the PC. The rest may be all local heresay. Press conference schedule for 9am tomorrow accordingly unless any new developments this evening. I am sicked of our disposable society.

[sunstar]

Hi Sunstar, so sad, You say not her normal route for running, others say no one would run in this area. Have you heard anymore regarding her running partner no one knew, Connie, I think. LE keeping it pretty tight lipped. God she just came back from visit to her parents, supposedly wanting Brad out of the home due to his marital infidelity, I wonder what if anything she told them, they really seem very stoic at the PC. The rest may be all local heresay. Press conference schedule for 9am tomorrow accordingly unless any new developments this evening. I am sicked of our disposable society.

Hi! :0012: Where she was found was a new planned housing development with some roads but lots of trees and wasn't her usual route, is all I know. I haven't heard anything more about her running partner, or even if she had planned to run that morning. She had plans to meet friends later and failed to show up & that's when LE was called. I really think she'd confided in the friend who became so concerned when she didn't show up that the friend knew something must be terribly wrong. I've been at work all day so I'm really trying to catch up myself on everything! :smile:

[StickyBeak]

LE has been asked during p/c and won't comment. :smile:


IIRC on WRAL comments someone wrote the store has video of BC shopping at 4am, (no confirmation), he bought detergent w/bleach or bleach.
Could he have killed her earlier while children sleeping, leaving them alone? Did he run out to buy laundry supply to clean up his clothes, killed her at home and dropped her body out in the boon docks?
I believe a question was asked at the 9am PC if Nancy's parents were in contact with the children, I think the answer was yes, would have to replay,

[StickyBeak]

Hi! :0012: Where she was found was a new planned housing development with some roads but lots of trees and wasn't her usual route, is all I know. I haven't heard anything more about her running partner, or even if she had planned to run that morning. She had plans to meet friends later and failed to show up & that's when LE was called. I really think she'd confided in the friend who became so concerned when she didn't show up that the friend knew something must be terribly wrong. I've been at work all day so I'm really trying to catch up myself on everything! :smile:

:happy0207: Good to see you again, ITA about the friend, she must have known of the conflict, thank goodness she called.. 911 otherwise who knows how long before she was reported missing. Strange, especially with leaving the babies. Another case of so many twist and turns! The latest info from wral with Brad lawyered up and vowing to help in any way possible is stunning. I would like nothing more than an arrest, I worry for my DB and his family in Wendell, not far from Cary.
You just never know anymore.

[KittyMom]

I appreciate that.....but I think we need to have a link in the post. I can't figure out that site, is it like a message board? I know on another thread on here Pauli said we could not copy posts from another board and post them here, but we can just post a link instead. It's very confusing to see something like that and not have a clue where it's from, without going back in the thread.

I dunno....there's a whole lot of gossip going on and like another poster said, I'd rather wait until LE comes out with facts.

(All that being said, I am leaning toward the husband did it.)

The poster meant post #158 of THIS thread. I linked the site that carried that quote.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6588&page=16

[Audie]

<snip for space>

Also, WRAL has a video of where the body was found, definately a drainage or retention type pond. Right off the cul-de-sac, very small.I can't find the video, heidi. Do you have a specific link?

[sunstar]

Here are some really good photos, including LE searching Cooper's SUV in the driveway, LE carrying objects out of the house and also the area Nancy was found.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/photos/story/1142714.html

Sorry if they've already been posted, but well worth another look! One toward the end shows a man jogging on the road right in front of where she was found.

[Audie]

I appreciate that.....but I think we need to have a link in the post. I can't figure out that site, is it like a message board? I know on another thread on here Pauli said we could not copy posts from another board and post them here, but we can just post a link instead. It's very confusing to see something like that and not have a clue where it's from, without going back in the thread.

I dunno....there's a whole lot of gossip going on and like another poster said, I'd rather wait until LE comes out with facts.

(All that being said, I am leaning toward the husband did it.)ITA, savannah.

[sunstar]

:happy0207: Good to see you again, ITA about the friend, she must have known of the conflict, thank goodness she called.. 911 otherwise who knows how long before she was reported missing. Strange, especially with leaving the babies. Another case of so many twist and turns! The latest info from wral with Brad lawyered up and vowing to help in any way possible is stunning. I would like nothing more than an arrest, I worry for my DB and his family in Wendell, not far from Cary.
You just never know anymore.
Good to see you too!! :0012: I wouldn't worry ~ I trust LE when they say they believe this is an isolated incident and the public isn't in harm's way. I think they just want to make sure they've got enough evidence before making an arrest and to confirm some things from the autopsy like closing in on the time frame of her death. It's already within a 7 hr. window but if she was killed right after getting home from the party her stomach contents & BAC level could really disprove his story she went out at 7am jogging. They also need to test everything seized from the house and meanwhile are keeping a close watch on him. :smile:

[KittyMom]

ITA, savannah.

As has already been pointed out...the quote was from post #158 of THIS thread.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6588&page=16

[Heidi J.]

LE has been asked during p/c and won't comment. :smile:
Yeah, about the bleach. But I think he has said he went to the store for milk, but not sure. After a while it gets hard to remember what was in news articles and what was on other MB's.:shrug1:

[KittyMom]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

Brad Cooper had no comment, but his attorneys, Howard Kurtz and Seth Blum, released a statement Wednesday afternoon saying he would not answer questions from the media but would continue cooperating with police.

hmmm...I'd love to know if LE stills describes him as "cooperating". That usually changes once the lawyers get called.

[awakening2lite]

Here's a link to Nancy's transcript from last night.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/15/ng.01.html

tonight's show isn't up yet.

[sunstar]

Yeah, about the bleach. But I think he has said he went to the store for milk, but not sure. After a while it gets hard to remember what was in news articles and what was on other MB's.:shrug1:

I'm having the same problem ~ facts vs. rumor! I too have seen posts about him saying he went out for milk & bread @ 6am, & someone else saying there is store video of him at 4am buying detergent/bleach, but LE hasn't said anything that I know of except they wouldn't comment. :shrug1:

[Heidi J.]

IIRC on WRAL comments someone wrote the store has video of BC shopping at 4am, (no confirmation), he bought detergent w/bleach or bleach.
Could he have killed her earlier while children sleeping, leaving them alone? Did he run out to buy laundry supply to clean up his clothes, killed her at home and dropped her body out in the boon docks?
I believe a question was asked at the 9am PC if Nancy's parents were in contact with the children, I think the answer was yes, would have to replay,

From some of her friends posts I have read, I got the impression at the party Friday, she was tired, so the whole getting up at 7 am to go jogging was a red flag to them. I would think if he was at the store buying bleach at 4 am, it happened not too long after arriving home from the party. Perhaps they had a sitter and the kids were sleeping when they arrived home from the party. But.. I am not sure he even attened the party:shrug1: I have only ever heard, "she" was last seen at the party:smiley_aasg:

[awakening2lite]

Please keep us updated! TIA!:happy0158:

She's running the repeat now.

[awakening2lite]

Ty Awakenin2Light, I did finally get on that site. I do really hope for the childrens sakes their Father be innocent.

YVW.

And I agree, it would be best for the children for him to be innocent. But, if he is guilty he needs to pay for it.

[Heidi J.]

I can't find the video, heidi. Do you have a specific link?

Video (http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3216471/)

This may take you only to the video section. But it is there under "area where body found".
:happy0207:

[awakening2lite]

I'm having the same problem ~ facts vs. rumor! I too have seen posts about him saying he went out for milk & bread @ 6am, & someone else saying there is store video of him at 4am buying detergent/bleach, but LE hasn't said anything that I know of except they wouldn't comment. :shrug1:

I'm thinking if the LE isn't confirming he was at the store, then it maybe he wasn't or they are not going to confirm until after they have more on him. I think they are working on getting his cooperation.

[Heidi J.]

I'm having the same problem ~ facts vs. rumor! I too have seen posts about him saying he went out for milk & bread @ 6am, & someone else saying there is store video of him at 4am buying detergent/bleach, but LE hasn't said anything that I know of except they wouldn't comment. :shrug1:

I gotta stay away from websluths! I was reading on there last night for a few hours.:blondblush113268230

[Heidi J.]

She's running the repeat now.

Kids have hijacked TV:doh:

[KittyMom]

I was just reading comments at wral's site. A poster with running experience said that a long distance runner would have some type of water bottle or money to buy a bottle with them. I remember reading in the early articles that LE found some items in their search for Nancy that they thought might belong to her. I wondered at the time if it might've been her shoes. Now I'm wondering about her water bottle. If she were going for a 2 hour jog, you'd think she'd have one.

[awakening2lite]

Kids have hijacked TV:doh:


Awwww :67302:

Yep, they can do that!

[awakening2lite]

I'm wondering if they can tell if she was running by detecting sweat on her clothing. Anyone know?

[Heidi J.]

I'm thinking if the LE isn't confirming he was at the store, then it maybe he wasn't or they are not going to confirm until after they have more on him. I think they are working on getting his cooperation.

Well, I don't think they are comfirming it because it is evidence and yes, they are building a case..

Not sure if this has been posted, Wed. evening cops go back to house for more evidence (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/).
Yeah, I believe they were trying to get him to cooperate, perhaps letting him think they are looking in another direction.. but he has lawyered up. He's done cooperating. :0001:

[awakening2lite]

Well, I don't think they are comfirming it because it is evidence and yes, they are building a case..

Not sure if this has been posted, Wed. evening cops go back to house for more evidence (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/).
Yeah, I believe they were trying to get him to cooperate, perhaps letting him think they are looking in another direction.. but he has lawyered up. He's done cooperating. :0001:

hmmmm, good point. Maybe they don't want to appear to rush to judgment and they are going to wait until they look at what they collected from the house. Maybe he was clearly identified on the store video and they are searching for receipt?

[sunstar]

From some of her friends posts I have read, I got the impression at the party Friday, she was tired, so the whole getting up at 7 am to go jogging was a red flag to them. I would think if he was at the store buying bleach at 4 am, it happened not too long after arriving home from the party. Perhaps they had a sitter and the kids were sleeping when they arrived home from the party. But.. I am not sure he even attened the party:shrug1: I have only ever heard, "she" was last seen at the party:smiley_aasg:

I don't believe he went to the party. From what I've heard at least. :smile:

[awakening2lite]

I'm thinking if they don't find sweat on her clothing, can that prove she wasn't out jogging?

[KittyMom]

I'm wondering if they can tell if she was running by detecting sweat on her clothing. Anyone know?

Good questions. I'd love to know the answer.

[StickyBeak]

I am thinking autopsy results may be released. Brad has an attorney, LE went back to house again this evening according to WRAL and recovered more bags of evidence. He will continue to cooperate, my bet is on him attending PC tomorrow at 9am. The video could very well be him picking up milk and detergent, cleaning up the house before Nancy returned home with the children. Time/Date stamp, just wonder why LE is keeping watch.

Time for night night, Sweet Dreams Y'all

[sunstar]

I'm wondering if they can tell if she was running by detecting sweat on her clothing. Anyone know?

Our dear friend, Dr. Baden :girl_haha: said last night that the time of death could be narrowed down by stomach contents and toxicology reports since she'd been at the party and got home at midnight. Now if she were out running, yes sweat would be on her clothes. Just my opinion, it might not be easy to tell though if she were redressed in some jogging clothes she'd already worn on another occasion, though, as there would be sweat, skin cells on the clothes already.

[Heidi J.]

I'm wondering if they can tell if she was running by detecting sweat on her clothing. Anyone know?

Not sure? I do know I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.. but this guy has my hinky meter going.

1. Marital problems
2. Doesn't report her missing
3. Doesn't show up at PC's
4. Doesn't really help too much with searches
There is just so much right off the bat!

I would love for him not to be guilty.. I mean those poor girls..:1187603408.CR.Mothe Ugh..

[awakening2lite]

I don't believe he went to the party. From what I've heard at least. :smile:

EXCERPT

Nancy Cooper, 34, was last seen by friends at a party Friday night. Her husband told police she went running at 7 a.m. Saturday morning and never came back.
source: http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=6a5e4c5b-39dc-4f22-bfd6-60f061d9a94e

Nancy Cooper had attended a party with friends Friday night at neighbor Diana Duncan's home. Duncan described the event as a cocktail party, but "very casual, sort of a normal Friday-night summer thing." She said Nancy Cooper looked tired and said she had not been feeling well.
source: http://www.charlotte.com/news/story/713558.html
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I can't find anything that directly states he was at the party.

[KittyMom]

So Baden says stomach contents will help determin TOD. Does a runner eat breakfast before a run?

[Heidi J.]

I am thinking autopsy results may be released. Brad has an attorney, LE went back to house again this evening according to WRAL and recovered more bags of evidence. He will continue to cooperate, my bet is on him attending PC tomorrow at 9am. The video could very well be him picking up milk and detergent, cleaning up the house before Nancy returned home with the children. Time/Date stamp, just wonder why LE is keeping watch.

Time for night night, Sweet Dreams Y'all

G'nite SB!:happy0207:

Let's hope thats all the shopping trip was for.

[sunstar]

I am thinking autopsy results may be released. Brad has an attorney, LE went back to house again this evening according to WRAL and recovered more bags of evidence. He will continue to cooperate, my bet is on him attending PC tomorrow at 9am. The video could very well be him picking up milk and detergent, cleaning up the house before Nancy returned home with the children. Time/Date stamp, just wonder why LE is keeping watch.

Time for night night, Sweet Dreams Y'all

Cleaning up the house before Nancy returned with the children? I'm confused! :confused: The time of the shopping was supposed to be either 4am or 6am when she was supposed to be home and he says she went jogging at 7am.

[sunstar]

So Baden says stomach contents will help determin TOD. Does a runner eat breakfast before a run?

That I don't know ~ but if the stomach contents were what she had at the party, then that means the murder happened before she digested that food. If the tox screen shows alcohol in her system, it also means she was murdered shortly after the party ~ not after 7am. :smile:

[awakening2lite]

Our dear friend, Dr. Baden :girl_haha: said last night that the time of death could be narrowed down by stomach contents and toxicology reports since she'd been at the party and got home at midnight. Now if she were out running, yes sweat would be on her clothes. Just my opinion, it might not be easy to tell though if she were redressed in some jogging clothes she'd already worn on another occasion, though, as there would be sweat, skin cells on the clothes already.

And if, she was redressed, I'm reasoning, that touch cell dna, from him, would be inside the clothing as he dressed her.

Previous article states DNA is part of the search warrant.

[Audie]

She's running the repeat now.I'm watching, but if one more woman says "Hi Nancy, I love your show or I love your twins", I'm gonna puke, lol.

Note: Bluelineradio.com is wrong when they said she was found in Woody's lake. They also are the ones that said Brad had scratches on his arms. I'm not going to believe that either, until LE tells us. Same with the rumor that he was buying bleach or whatever at 4 am. Might be true, but I'm gonna wait. If people know stuff, they should wait until LE releases it. The perp could go free because of that and possibly kill your friend or your daughter, etc. Hence the term "Loose Lips Sink Ships". Sorry Im on a tangent tonite.

[sunstar]

EXCERPT

Nancy Cooper, 34, was last seen by friends at a party Friday night. Her husband told police she went running at 7 a.m. Saturday morning and never came back.
source: http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=6a5e4c5b-39dc-4f22-bfd6-60f061d9a94e

Nancy Cooper had attended a party with friends Friday night at neighbor Diana Duncan's home. Duncan described the event as a cocktail party, but "very casual, sort of a normal Friday-night summer thing." She said Nancy Cooper looked tired and said she had not been feeling well.
source: http://www.charlotte.com/news/story/713558.html
-----------------

I can't find anything that directly states he was at the party.

I've been reading so much the past couple of days, I can't tell you where I saw it, but it seemed to be one article that said he wasn't at the party. I'm sorry, I can try to find it! :6u8ky2o:

[StickyBeak]

Cleaning up the house before Nancy returned with the children? I'm confused! :confused: The time of the shopping was supposed to be either 4am or 6am when she was supposed to be home and he says she went jogging at 7am.

My Bad :71541: Okay, I am going by the "No Confirmation" of any video except post on a message board. LE has not confirmed. I was reaching, that, Yes, Maybe there is a video, but Wrong Day and TIme :shrug1:


Nite Nite,

[awakening2lite]

That I don't know ~ but if the stomach contents were what she had at the party, then that means the murder happened before she digested that food. If the tox screen shows alcohol in her system, it also means she was murdered shortly after the party ~ not after 7am. :smile:

Excellent point! It was described as a cocktail party, so maybe she did consume alcohol. IIRC alcohol cannot be detected after 6 hours.

[sunstar]

And if, she was redressed, I'm reasoning, that touch cell dna, from him, would be inside the clothing as he dressed her.

Previous article states DNA is part of the search warrant.

That's true too, his DNA could be on her clothes, but he could also say he did the laundry! :thud2: Also, her skin cells could still be on clothing if it hadn't been thoroughly washed. So I think it'd be hard to prove by the clothes themselves if she'd been jogging when she was killed. I think a lot will depend on the cause of death, like if it was blunt force trauma or a head injury with bleeding, there would be blood where she was found if that was the crime scene ~ or whereever blood is found, is the crime scene.

[awakening2lite]

I'm watching, but if one more woman says "Hi Nancy, I love your show or I love your twins", I'm gonna puke, lol.

Note: Bluelineradio.com is wrong when they said she was found in Woody's lake. They also are the ones that said Brad had scratches on his arms. I'm not going to believe that either, until LE tells us. Same with the rumor that he was buying bleach or whatever at 4 am. Might be true, but I'm gonna wait. If people know stuff, they should wait until LE releases it. The perp could go free because of that and possibly kill your friend or your daughter, etc. Hence the term "Loose Lips Sink Ships". Sorry Im on a tangent tonite.

LOL yeah, the twins do seems to come up in the most interesting segments of the show! I wish she would just set up a website for them and let people comment there. But, hey, no body asked me...

Waiting for LE to confirm facts in the case, is the best way to go. It saves so much confusion later.

[Heidi J.]

That's true too, his DNA could be on her clothes, but he could also say he did the laundry! :thud2: Also, her skin cells could still be on clothing if it hadn't been thoroughly washed. So I think it'd be hard to prove by the clothes themselves if she'd been jogging when she was killed. I think a lot will depend on the cause of death, like if it was blunt force trauma or a head injury with bleeding, there would be blood where she was found if that was the crime scene ~ or whereever blood is found, is the crime scene.

Yes.. I agree! I didn't think he went to party.. I wonder if her friends remember what she wore to the party.. and where those clothes are?
:g:

[awakening2lite]

That's true too, his DNA could be on her clothes, but he could also say he did the laundry! :thud2: Also, her skin cells could still be on clothing if it hadn't been thoroughly washed. So I think it'd be hard to prove by the clothes themselves if she'd been jogging when she was killed. I think a lot will depend on the cause of death, like if it was blunt force trauma or a head injury with bleeding, there would be blood where she was found if that was the crime scene ~ or whereever blood is found, is the crime scene.

I agree, it wouldn't be the complete proof of anything, but it would/could be a another piece of evidence. If she was redressed the places where his touch dna would be would not be consistent with folding clothes or laundry. I say this because of the recent touch dna in the Jonbenet case. The touch dna was on the sides of the pants where the predator had pulled them up to redress her. I'm thinking if Nancy was redressed the same cells locations would be detected.

[sunstar]

Yes.. I agree! I didn't think he went to party.. I wonder if her friends remember what she wore to the party.. and where those clothes are?
:g:

I'd like to know about what she wore that night too, or if it happened after she went to bed, where those clothes are. With LE removing so many things from the house, it seems to me ~ just my opinion ~ they're looking for crime scene evidence so it doesn't seem now like she was strangled or smothered.

[sunstar]

I agree, it wouldn't be the complete proof of anything, but it would/could be a another piece of evidence. If she was redressed the places where his touch dna would be would not be consistent with folding clothes or laundry. I say this because of the recent touch dna in the Jonbenet case. The touch dna was on the sides of the pants where the predator had pulled them up to redress her. I'm thinking if Nancy was redressed the same cells locations would be detected.

When you mentioned touch DNA I knew you were thinking of JonBenet! :smile: I'll agree, it wouldn't be in the same places as if touching clothes to fold laundry, but if challenged I wouldn't put it past his defense! If she was found in her jogging clothes, and shoes, his DNA sure shouldn't be on her shoelaces either.

[KittyMom]

If she suffered scratches or cuts and then redressed, wouldn't there be staining in reverse as the clothing were pulled on her? Could that be detectable?

[Audie]

Video (http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3216471/)

This may take you only to the video section. But it is there under "area where body found".
:happy0207:Thankyou, heidi. Very interesting. To me anyway.

[sunstar]

If she suffered scratches or cuts and then redressed, wouldn't there be staining in reverse as the clothing were pulled on her? Could that be detectable?

yes, I do believe CSI could definitely tell if she had the clothing on when she was killed or it was a redressing. A t-shirt would be especially difficult to put on someone with an open head injury without transferring blood.

eta ~ only speculating about the head injury ~ no proof!

[Audie]

From the "A" follow Fielding Dr down to the end where there is just dirt roads cut out. You'll see 2 cul de sacs at the far end (bottom part). She was in between the 2 cul de sacs. Thanks heidi for helping me narrow the place down.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4705+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=35.722441,-78.739572&sspn=0.012403,0.016479&ie=UTF8&ll=35.717563,-78.737748&spn=0.006202,0.00824&t=h&z=16

[Heidi J.]

I'd like to know about what she wore that night too, or if it happened after she went to bed, where those clothes are. With LE removing so many things from the house, it seems to me ~ just my opinion ~ they're looking for crime scene evidence so it doesn't seem now like she was strangled or smothered.

I don't jog.. but I know I wear a tee shirt and shorts to bed almost every night. Could very well have happened after she was dressed for or in bed.:0009:

[Heidi J.]

Thankyou, heidi. Very interesting. To me anyway.
Oh I agree. Close to home.:g:

[Audie]

Oh I agree. Close to home.:g:I can't believe how lazy these perps are. Rarely do they put the bodies more than a 100 ft off the road or trail. Nancy was only about 20 ft. Like a piece of trash. :puke:

[sunstar]

I don't jog.. but I know I wear a tee shirt and shorts to bed almost every night. Could very well have happened after she was dressed for or in bed.:0009:

I'll agree, especially at this time of year, she could've had the t-shirt on before she was killed ~ assuming this is what she was wearing when her body was found. (I can't believe he'd be as stupid as SP and have her in a completely different outfit!)

[awakening2lite]

From the "A" follow Fielding Dr down to the end where there is just dirt roads cut out. You'll see 2 cul de sacs at the far end (bottom part). She was in between the 2 cul de sacs. Thanks heidi for helping me narrow the place down.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4705+fielding+dr,+cary,+nc&sll=35.722441,-78.739572&sspn=0.012403,0.016479&ie=UTF8&ll=35.717563,-78.737748&spn=0.006202,0.00824&t=h&z=16

Thanks heidi and Audie for the map work.

[Audie]

Goodnight y'all. Talk at ya about PC time. (8CT .. 9ET)

[sunstar]

I can't believe how lazy these perps are. Rarely do they put the bodies more than a 100 ft off the road or trail. Nancy was only about 20 ft. Like a piece of trash. :puke:

But the area being grassy and rather isolated maybe he didn't think she'd be found so soon, and wanted her in the open to decompose more rapidly. Or, maybe he got scared off somehow when he was there so he just left her. :shrug1:

[Audie]

Thanks heidi and Audie for the map work.Were ya able to find it?

[sunstar]

Goodnight y'all. Talk at ya about PC time. (8CT .. 9ET)

Please post updates ~ I'll be leaving for work when the pc comes on and will read here when I get to work! Have a good night!! :happy0207:

ps ~ thanks so much for the map!

[Audie]

But the area being grassy and rather isolated maybe he didn't think she'd be found so soon, and wanted her in the open to decompose more rapidly. Or, maybe he got scared off somehow when he was there so he just left her. :shrug1:I'm thinkin he got scared. Perps like to burglarize, rob, dump bodies, etc and keep going. Have another way out. Not have to turn around and go back they way they came in. JMO