July 23, 2008--Drew's pals wore wire

[rockford2]

Drew's chilling words caught on tape

BY JOE HOSEY Sun-Times News Group
Drew Peterson likes to talk an awful lot — especially for a guy whose third wife was murdered and fourth wife is missing.

And now two of his closest friends say they caught it all, cooperating with State Police by wearing a wire and recording seven months of intimate conversations with the former Bolingbrook cop.

Peterson mocked investigators as “idiots,” called his third wife “a bitch” whose body he should have had cremated and predicted he’d be tried and acquitted long before his fourth wife’s remains were found, Wawczak said.

Wawczak, 42, said he and his wife, Paula Stark, 38, have known Peterson for about 16 years, a friendship that began over drinks at a Bolingbrook watering hole , included talk of going into business together flipping homes and became so close that Peterson trusted the couple to watch his children.

But a few weeks after Stacy Peterson disappeared last year, the couple began to have suspicions about their longtime friend. Partly because of a tragedy in his own past, Wawczak said he had no reservations about turning informant for the police, but his wife was afraid.

“I talked her into it,” Wawczak said.

And the next seven months would have plenty of nerve-wracking moments, the couple said, including requests from Peterson that they prove their loyalty and worries that a hug could reveal their subterfuge.

‘A bunch of f------ idiots’
Early in their friendship, Wawczak says he heard Peterson complaining about his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

In 2004, about 12 years into Wawczak’s friendship with Peterson, Savio was found dead in a waterless bathtub, and State Police determined she was the victim of an accidental drowning.

Stark said at the time Peterson mocked the cops investigating the drowning, saying, “‘She was in a dry bathtub, what a bunch of f------ idiots.’”

Then, Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy, vanished in October, sparking officials to exhume Savio’s body and declare her death a homicide.

Wawczak recalled Peterson telling them, “‘I should have had that bitch cremated. It would have cost me less and I wouldn’t be going through this trouble.’”

Peterson has been named a suspect in Stacy Peterson’s disappearance, which police have labeled a “potential homicide.” Peterson has publicly said he had nothing to do with the fate of either of his wives.

And privately, he didn’t sound nervous, Wawczak said.

“He said he wasn’t worried about them finding Stacy’s remains down the road because he figured by that time he would have been tried and acquitted, and you can’t be tried for the same case twice because of double jeopardy or something,” Wawczak said.

Modeling Stacy’s bikinis
The couple contacted Peterson after Stacy Peterson disappeared.

“We figured we were being good Joes, that’s all, helping him out,” Wawczak said.

As the investigation escalated, Peterson took to spending more and more evenings at Wawczak and Stark’s Bolingbrook home, the couple said. He would sneak out his back door, crawl through the yard and jump into their waiting van.

“He didn’t know if they were coming for him, and he thought this would be a good place to hide,” Wawczak said.

In mid-November, the State Police met with Wawczak and eventually began talking about enlisting his help, asking him to take a polygraph in the process, Wawczak said.

Stark, who has two sons and a daughter with Wawczak, said she remained nervous throughout their clandestine work, which ceased in mid-June. The worst day was probably when Peterson took her up in his ultra-light airplane in early spring for its first flight since Stacy Peterson vanished. A GPS device was hidden inside the thermal vest she wore so police could track where he flew, Stark said.

“I swear to God, I don’t think I was more scared,” she said.

She said she was also worried when Peterson hugged her and asked her to model his missing wife’s bikinis and fur coats.

“Even hugging him goodbye, trying to kiss me, rubbing up against me, whispering in my ear, ‘I love you,’” Stark said, adding she was worried Peterson might discover the recording device she wore.

“I thought a few times he might have felt it and might say something,” she said.

‘Don’t make me shoot him’
Stark said Peterson asked her to run off with him.

“He wanted to move to Kentucky and put a business and a house in my name in case they came to get him,” she said. “I said, ‘You plan to take me to Kentucky? You think Lenny’s going to let me go without a fight? You know how he is.’ He said, ‘Don’t make me shoot him.’”

Wawczak said he had his own uncomfortable moments. He said he balked when Peterson asked him to prove his loyalty by torching a bunch of plants a neighbor assembled in memory of Stacy and sabotage a boat that was being used in searches.

What was Peterson’s motivation?

“‘It would just be funny,’” Wawczak said Peterson told him.

‘He's done’
Wawczak and Stark said Peterson trusted them so much that he gave them a .22-caliber folding revolver for safe keeping. Police missed the gun when they searched his home, they said, and Peterson needed someone to take it when his firearm owner’s identification card was revoked. The couple said they surrendered the gun to police immediately, but told Peterson investigators seized it during a March search.

Stark and Wawczak said they grew close to Peterson’s children — the two teenage sons he had with Savio and the boy and girl he had with Stacy Peterson. The couple said they miss the children since they broke contact with Peterson when their work with police ended.

“It f------ kills me I’ll never get to see [them] again because I did the right thing,” Wawczak said.

“I would take those kids in a second,” Stark said. “I would take custody of those kids in a heartbeat.”

Wawczak said his own father was slain during a holdup of his gas station in 1975, when Len was 9.

The killer was found thanks to a woman who reported the license number of the getaway car. Wawczak said that’s partly why he agreed to help police investigating Savio’s murder and Stacy Peterson’s disappearance.

“Look what that lady did for my dad,” Wawczak said. “Had she not, that guy would have got away. Plus, it’s the right thing to do.”

Wawczak and Stark declined to spell out all the conversations they helped record for State Police, but they expect the information to lead to their former friend’s arrest.

“He’s done,” Wawczak said. “He’s going away.”

‘They’re wrong’
Peterson was nonplussed when he learned his friends were spying on him for the police. He said he felt no sense of betrayal, suggesting the couple had other motives.

“They stormed off mad one day when I wouldn’t lend them money,” Peterson said. “They wanted some big money from me.”

Peterson said he never voiced wishes Savio had been cremated, talked of shooting Wawczak or asked his friend to vandalize any flower memorial or boat.

“The only thing I talked about was him walking up and down and taking the ribbons off the trees” memorializing Stacy, Peterson said.

Peterson also disputed Wawczak’s claim that the words recorded by the wire would be his undoing.

“No,” he said, “They’re wrong.”

Peterson even said whatever he uttered in the presence of Stark and Wawczak would help clear him.

“I’m almost glad,” he said. “Good.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1069491,boling072308.stng

[packy]

If that is true that he complained about his wife's body being found in a dry tub, you would think a guilty man would not call attention to it although in another way it could be very clever too.

[rockford2]

Wawczak and Stark declined to spell out all the conversations they helped record for State Police, but they expect the information to lead to their former friend’s arrest.

“He’s done,” Wawczak said. “He’s going away.”


This is what I'm curious about. Just my opinion, the other stuff that was recorded damaged even more so, Peterson's reputation, but prosecutors still don't have much to go on.

We need to find the body or a witness.......unless what was recorded and not released is the 'smoking gun.'

This is the first time though, (that I can remember, and only IMO) that Peterson hasn't replied without a cocky attitude and not having much to say.

[rockford2]

If that is true that he complained about his wife's body being found in a dry tub, you would think a guilty man would not call attention to it although in another way it could be very clever too.

How so? About the clever part, Packy??

[rem16]

Of course Joel Brodsky is on tv now saying he doesn't believe there are any tapes..He said it would be a felony if the couple actually spoke publically about surveillence tapes. :0009: I so want this to be the smoking gun in this case! Of course, still no body.

[packy]

How so? About the clever part, Packy??

Well if no one would expect him to go on and on about the law not considering that she was in a dry tub if he was guilty, then do go on about it on purpose so that people would get an impression that he wasn't guilty when it may be possible that he was.

[rockford2]

Of course Joel Brodsky is on tv now saying he doesn't believe there are any tapes..He said it would be a felony if the couple actually spoke publically about surveillence tapes. :0009: I so want this to be the smoking gun in this case! Of course, still no body.

don't forget, Rem,

You don't need to find the corpse to convict the killer: 30-year-old case reminds us that `no body' does not necessarily mean no justice

The Stephanie Lyng case...Dorsey Connors daughter.

"There have been a substantial number of successful murder prosecutions based solely on circumstantial evidence that a murder occurred," said Fordham University law professor Deborah Denno, who has studied the case law in this area. The body is "a key piece of evidence," she said, "but it is just one piece of evidence."

Courts have repeatedly held that other evidence – such as blood stains, apparent efforts to remove blood stains, a stormy history with the victim and even the defendant's lack of distress at the victim's disappearance – can add up to proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in what are informally called "no-body" cases.

The legal standard is not 100 percent certainty, observed Ronald Allen, an expert on evidence and criminal procedure at the Northwestern University School of Law. "The burden is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and though that burden obviously gets higher without a body, it's not insurmountable."

In the Lyng case, for instance, investigators learned from one of Ed Lyng's former employees that she had helped him leave his wife's car at a remote parking lot at O'Hare International Airport on the day she vanished. That wasn't enough for an indictment. Neither was a statement from one of Ed Lyng's nephews that Lyng had offered him $50,000 to kill Stephanie.

It wasn't until 1992 that the ex-employee finally told investigators that Lyng had drawn her into his scheme, told her how he'd stabbed Stephanie and dumped her body in a remote area of Lake County, then threatened to have her killed if she told on him.

That was enough. Cook County prosecutors didn't have a body or a murder weapon, but they still had enough to convict Lyng of murder in March, 1994.


http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/11/lyng.html

[rockford2]

Well if no one would expect him to go on and on about the law not considering that she was in a dry tub if he was guilty, then do go on about it on purpose so that people would get an impression that he wasn't guilty when it may be possible that he was.


ok....i see.

Why is Brodsky calling this a felony if this couple actually spoke publically about surveillence tapes?

Need to check into that....never heard of that. :shrug1:

[Breezy]

The case of missing Bolingbrook, Ill., mom Stacy Peterson took a new turn today when details came out about friends secretly taping comments her husband Drew Peterson made. In those comments, he referred to "the remains" of Stacy, a far cry from his public statements that she ran away. Stacy's sister Cassandra Cales, told CBS in Chicago, "It's contradicting prior when he said she ran off with another man, so we knew that wasn't true all along and now he's changing it talking about her remains." Cassandra told me last night to expect an arrest very soon. Let's hope so.


http://zerogossip.com/2008/07/23/stacy-petersons-sister-cassandra--shouldnt-be-much-longer-until-an-arrest.aspx

[rockford2]

Just my opinion......

I think that Peterson really trusted these two people who wore a wire and he's kicking himself for it, and Peterson's attorney is backpedaling as quickly as he can.

Drew knew it, Brodsky knew it, but lonliness and liquor can be a deadly mix when keeping one's thoughts to themself. :0devil: if that was the case.

Just throwing out thoughts for the day...and all just a formed opinion by yours truly.

[packy]

I remember when Stephanie Lying disappeared and they didn't find her did they? Wasn't she Dorsey connor's daughter?

Didn't Drew's lawyer say they don't really have anything incriminating.

[Texas53]

Just my opinion......

I think that Peterson really trusted these two people who wore a wire and he's kicking himself for it, and Peterson's attorney is backpedaling as quickly as he can.

Drew knew it, Brodsky knew it, but lonliness and liquor can be a deadly mix when keeping one's thoughts to themself. :0devil: if that was the case.

Just throwing out thoughts for the day...and all just a formed opinion by yours truly.

Since Peterson hasn't been indicted yet, why are these people even giving out this information? If he ever is indicted, the DA can call them up as a witness against Peterson because it is not here say. However, letting this info out, could be a good argument for the defense these people are not credible and are trying to get themselves in the spotlight. JMHO

[rockford2]

I remember when Stephanie Lying disappeared and they didn't find her did they? Wasn't she Dorsey connor's daughter?

Didn't Drew's lawyer say they don't really have anything incriminating.

yes, Lyng was Dorsey Connor's daughter, and no, they never did find Lyng's body.

The 4 daughters of Stephanie and Edward Lyng, have talked about how difficult their lives were after their mother disappeared and living with their father.
IMO, it opens up a glimpse of how life MIGHT be for these children who are missing a mother, and in some cases, their father...IF....IF, their other parent had something to do with the disappearance of said mom or dad.

Before the Lyng daughters opened up about 4 years ago to talk about the abuse they suffered and the isolation from their mother's side of the family, due to their father's insistence, nobody had any real insight as to what really goes on for [I] or went on for these girls growing up without their mother and not knowing what happened to her.

[rockford2]

Since Peterson hasn't been indicted yet, why are these people even giving out this information? If he ever is indicted, the DA can call them up as a witness against Peterson because it is not here say. However, letting this info out, could be a good argument for the defense these people are not credible and are trying to get themselves in the spotlight. JMHO


yes, I thought about this as well. But it could also be a ploy to get Peterson good and scared because we don't know all that was discussed on those alleged tapes.

People sometimes make mistakes and run back to make sure that there aren't any mistakes...

Didn't the article say that this couple babysat for the kids?

[rockford2]

http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=801902227&pl=801417768.xml&plc=801417768&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml

The possible felony regarding these tapes is also explained...

Here is my question:

What does this couple hope to obtain IF they were working for the state police and released information regarding the tapes?

IF it's true, as Brodsky says in the link provided, that the couple is in dire monetary straights and are in the process of losing their home, what did they hope to expect by going public with the tapes?
Anyone???

[Land Shark®]

Fantastic news. Don't you agree? :smile:

Len Wawczak did more than just talk with his former friend Drew Peterson using a wire. CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli talked with Wawczak overnight about Peterson professing his love online to what he thought was another woman.

When Wawczak wasn't wearing a wire to tape his former friend Drew Peterson for the police, he was often on his computer setting a different kind of trap. It involved lust and a made-up girl named Ashley.

Len Wawczak Says He Was 'Ashley' In A Mock Online Romance With Drew Peterson (http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.love.2.778811)

[awakening2lite]

EXCERPT

And tonight, the mystery surrounding 23-year-old mom Stacy Peterson, vanishing up scale Chicago suburbs, husband/cop Drew Peterson the prime suspect in his fourth wife`s disappearance, the suspicious bathtub drowning of wife three officially ruled homicide. Tonight, is there finally a break in the case?

Long-time friends say -- of Peterson`s -- they were wired secretly by police for months, allegedly catching Peterson mocking the cops and wishing he had wife three cremated. Peterson then allegedly states on tape by the time Stacy`s body is found, he`ll be acquitted of her murder and escape justice because of double jeopardy. Peterson allegedly goes on to ask friends to sabotage a boat used in the search for Stacy and to destroy a memorial garden in Stacy`s memory.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two of Drew Peterson`s former long-time friends are talking to "The Sun-Times."` They told the paper they were undercover informants, wearing wires for months to help authorities build a case against the ex-Bollingbrook cop.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No way that this happened. The Illinois State Police and the prosecutors would never allow a witness, an undercover witness, for seven months to talk to the media like this.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All this starts (ph) as Peterson mocks investigators, saying she was in a dry bathtub. What a bunch of expletive idiots. Len Wawczak also recalls Peterson telling them, I should have had that "expletive" cremated. It would have cost me less, and I wouldn`t be going through this trouble. According to the paper, Wawczak also says that Peterson told him he wasn`t worried about them finding Stacy`s remains down the road because he figured by that time, he would have been tried and acquitted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This morning, Drew Peterson spoke to reporters through his front door.

DREW PETERSON, SUSPECTED IN WIFE STACY`S DISAPPEARANCE: I`d love to talk to you, but my attorney has instructed me not to make any comments today.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have to be thinking something about those comments that they made that they say on tape. They say, you know, this is going to be the end of you.

PETERSON: OK. We`ll see.

EXCERPT

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Len Wawczak and his wife Paula Stark wore a wire and recorded their conversations with Drew Peterson. They tell the "Chicago Sun-Times" this went on for seven months.

The couple says they became suspicious after Stacy Petersons disappeared last October and agreed to help state police with the investigation. They say Peterson mocked the police investigating the death of his third wife Kathleen Savio whose death was originally ruled an accidental drowning.

According to Paula Stark, Peterson said, quote, "She was in a dry bathtub," and that he called police a bunch of idiots.

After Stacy disappeared, Savio`s body was exhumed and her death was reclassified as a homicide. Wawczak says Peterson commented, quote, "I should have had that, expletive, cremated. It would have cost me less and I wouldn`t be going through this trouble."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRACE: Is he caught on tape?

Out to our producer Ellie Jostad. Elli, in summary, tell me what is allegedly on the tape and where they came from.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, here`s the thing. We don`t know what is on the tape. But two friends of Drew Peterson, a married couple who says they`ve known him for 16 years, they now say that they agreed to work with the Illinois state police, wear a wire and secretly recorded conversations with Drew Peterson.

Now they say they became suspicious when Drew said things like he called the cops investigating Kathleen Savio`s death a bunch of f-ing idiots. He later said after they exhumed Kathleen Savio he said something to his friend, allegedly, I should have just had her cremated. It would have been cheaper and saved me a lot of trouble.

Another friend says -- the woman in this couple says that Drew Peterson even asked her to run away with him to Kentucky where, presumably, he could escape the law enforcement and media.

GRACE: Ellie, thank you.

To Joe Hosey with the "Herald News" and author of "Fatal Vows" -- Joe, I found most interesting that he said he would never really be prosecuted on this until after her body was found and then he would have already escaped by acquittal and double jeopardy.

JOE HOSEY, HERALD NEWS, INTERVIEWED FRIENDS CLAIMING THEY TAPED PETERSON: Yes, Nancy. That`s what Len and Paula are alleging, yes.

GRACE: And what is his reaction to the revelation he was caught on tape?

HOSEY: I spoke to him several time -- three times after this, and he -- as he seems to usually do, you know, he calls her character into question and says they were after money, they`re creating -- you know, the (INAUDIBLE) sold the story to the "Enquirer" now they`re trying to capitalize off this thing.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Is Drew Peterson finally tape?

Out to Joe Hosey with "The Herald News" -- Joe, can we confirm the secret tapes actually exist?

HOSEY: I believe so, yes.

GRACE: How?

HOSEY: I can`t say that at this time.

GRACE: OK. So you have a source.

To Ellie, what`s the most damning thing in the tapes?

JOSTAD: Well, I think what you mentioned, Nancy, Drew Peterson said that he wasn`t (INAUDIBLE)

HOSEY: Paula would carry it in her purse. She also had it inserted into her bra. Lenny had it under his shirt.

GRACE: And is it true, Ellie, that according to this couple, former friends of Petersons, he actually asked the woman to model his dead wife`s by bikinis and fur coat?

JOSTAD: That`s right. She says that he asked her to model Stacy`s clothing. He also would try to hug her, try to kiss her, whisper in her ear, I love you. That`s what she`s claiming right now.

GRACE: OK. Well, Ellie referred to bikinis as clothing, but thank you, Ellie.


source: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/23/ng.01.html

[Land Shark®]

I was going to post the latest news here but I thought it deserved it's own thread. I recommend everyone here check it out. :smile:

Drew must be kicking himself now. Brodsky must be wanting to kick Drew right about now. :s1gyahoo:

[rockford2]

I was going to post the latest news here but I thought it deserved it's own thread. I recommend everyone here check it out. :smile:

Drew must be kicking himself now. Brodsky must be wanting to kick Drew right about now. :s1gyahoo:

where is the latest news, Land Shark? On a thread of its own??

[rockford2]

EXCERPT

And tonight, the mystery surrounding 23-year-old mom Stacy Peterson, vanishing up scale Chicago suburbs, husband/cop Drew Peterson the prime suspect in his fourth wife`s disappearance, the suspicious bathtub drowning of wife three officially ruled homicide. Tonight, is there finally a break in the case?

Long-time friends say -- of Peterson`s -- they were wired secretly by police for months, allegedly catching Peterson mocking the cops and wishing he had wife three cremated. Peterson then allegedly states on tape by the time Stacy`s body is found, he`ll be acquitted of her murder and escape justice because of double jeopardy. Peterson allegedly goes on to ask friends to sabotage a boat used in the search for Stacy and to destroy a memorial garden in Stacy`s memory.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two of Drew Peterson`s former long-time friends are talking to "The Sun-Times."` They told the paper they were undercover informants, wearing wires for months to help authorities build a case against the ex-Bollingbrook cop.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No way that this happened. The Illinois State Police and the prosecutors would never allow a witness, an undercover witness, for seven months to talk to the media like this.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All this starts (ph) as Peterson mocks investigators, saying she was in a dry bathtub. What a bunch of expletive idiots. Len Wawczak also recalls Peterson telling them, I should have had that "expletive" cremated. It would have cost me less, and I wouldn`t be going through this trouble. According to the paper, Wawczak also says that Peterson told him he wasn`t worried about them finding Stacy`s remains down the road because he figured by that time, he would have been tried and acquitted.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This morning, Drew Peterson spoke to reporters through his front door.

DREW PETERSON, SUSPECTED IN WIFE STACY`S DISAPPEARANCE: I`d love to talk to you, but my attorney has instructed me not to make any comments today.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have to be thinking something about those comments that they made that they say on tape. They say, you know, this is going to be the end of you.

PETERSON: OK. We`ll see.

EXCERPT

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Len Wawczak and his wife Paula Stark wore a wire and recorded their conversations with Drew Peterson. They tell the "Chicago Sun-Times" this went on for seven months.

The couple says they became suspicious after Stacy Petersons disappeared last October and agreed to help state police with the investigation. They say Peterson mocked the police investigating the death of his third wife Kathleen Savio whose death was originally ruled an accidental drowning.

According to Paula Stark, Peterson said, quote, "She was in a dry bathtub," and that he called police a bunch of idiots.

After Stacy disappeared, Savio`s body was exhumed and her death was reclassified as a homicide. Wawczak says Peterson commented, quote, "I should have had that, expletive, cremated. It would have cost me less and I wouldn`t be going through this trouble."

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRACE: Is he caught on tape?

Out to our producer Ellie Jostad. Elli, in summary, tell me what is allegedly on the tape and where they came from.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, here`s the thing. We don`t know what is on the tape. But two friends of Drew Peterson, a married couple who says they`ve known him for 16 years, they now say that they agreed to work with the Illinois state police, wear a wire and secretly recorded conversations with Drew Peterson.

Now they say they became suspicious when Drew said things like he called the cops investigating Kathleen Savio`s death a bunch of f-ing idiots. He later said after they exhumed Kathleen Savio he said something to his friend, allegedly, I should have just had her cremated. It would have been cheaper and saved me a lot of trouble.

Another friend says -- the woman in this couple says that Drew Peterson even asked her to run away with him to Kentucky where, presumably, he could escape the law enforcement and media.

GRACE: Ellie, thank you.

To Joe Hosey with the "Herald News" and author of "Fatal Vows" -- Joe, I found most interesting that he said he would never really be prosecuted on this until after her body was found and then he would have already escaped by acquittal and double jeopardy.

JOE HOSEY, HERALD NEWS, INTERVIEWED FRIENDS CLAIMING THEY TAPED PETERSON: Yes, Nancy. That`s what Len and Paula are alleging, yes.

GRACE: And what is his reaction to the revelation he was caught on tape?

HOSEY: I spoke to him several time -- three times after this, and he -- as he seems to usually do, you know, he calls her character into question and says they were after money, they`re creating -- you know, the (INAUDIBLE) sold the story to the "Enquirer" now they`re trying to capitalize off this thing.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Is Drew Peterson finally tape?

Out to Joe Hosey with "The Herald News" -- Joe, can we confirm the secret tapes actually exist?

HOSEY: I believe so, yes.

GRACE: How?

HOSEY: I can`t say that at this time.

GRACE: OK. So you have a source.

To Ellie, what`s the most damning thing in the tapes?

JOSTAD: Well, I think what you mentioned, Nancy, Drew Peterson said that he wasn`t (INAUDIBLE)

HOSEY: Paula would carry it in her purse. She also had it inserted into her bra. Lenny had it under his shirt.

GRACE: And is it true, Ellie, that according to this couple, former friends of Petersons, he actually asked the woman to model his dead wife`s by bikinis and fur coat?

JOSTAD: That`s right. She says that he asked her to model Stacy`s clothing. He also would try to hug her, try to kiss her, whisper in her ear, I love you. That`s what she`s claiming right now.

GRACE: OK. Well, Ellie referred to bikinis as clothing, but thank you, Ellie.


source: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/23/ng.01.html


oooh.....this is great!!! thank you for posting this. I was soooo danged tired last night that I didn't watch any news and then son got hurt on his bike so I ended up dealing with that as well. Thanks for catching me up.

[rockford2]

so Paula Stark allegedly had Peterson sign a hat and tried to sell it on EBay for $10,000???? And Brodsky says that both Paula Stark and her husband, Len, filed for bankrupcty several times?? Hmm.....that might explain why Stark goes by another name.

And why wouldn't the cops pose as an internet pal to Peterson? I'm a thinking that Len W. decided to try that ruse all on his own. Very interesting...

[rockford2]

He pulls on his ear right away....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRnjMWKQQo

[Land Shark®]

where is the latest news, Land Shark? On a thread of its own??

Go back to my post that you quoted & scroll up to see my thread starting post. It was moved here. :smile:

Damn good news. :s1gyahoo:

ETA: Nevermind. I see you already saw it. :smile:

[Land Shark®]

Drew's latest response to the wire tapping:

Peterson: Duo 'Taking Advatage' Of 'Anguish' (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1072168,4_1_JO24_PETERSON_S1.article)

A quote from the link:

Stark and Wawczak are just looking to cash in on his misery and were sniffing around for money long before this, Peterson said.

"And on top of that, I caught Paula in my bedroom taking pictures," Peterson said. "So I have more friends taking advantage of my anguish."

What 'misery'?

What 'anguish'?

This idiot was smiling on every damn interview right after his wife 'left him for another man'.

If Stacy left this idiot for another man... why would this idiot talk about remains?

Rhetorical question. I know the answer.

[awakening2lite]

He pulls on his ear right away....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRnjMWKQQo


Heehee! :hifive:

[rem16]

Wawczak and Stark are on Greta right now.. she said she thinks he will get convicted for BOTH murders!

[rockford2]

Wawczak and Stark are on Greta right now.. she said she thinks he will get convicted for BOTH murders!


who says? Greta??

[rem16]

who says? Greta??

No, Paula Stark..:s1gyahoo: From her mouth to God's ears.

[rockford2]

No, Paula Stark..:s1gyahoo: From her mouth to God's ears.

Can you post what you learn after this interview, on this thread? I'll be back sometime tomorrow to read it. :6u8ky2o: I sincerely appreciate it, Rem.

night!! :000a1:

[rockford2]

Apparently, Drew's EX friends are in hiding. The wife is hiding out in somebody's basement, and she THINKS her husband went off on a fishing trip.

[awakening2lite]

Can you post what you learn after this interview, on this thread? I'll be back sometime tomorrow to read it. :6u8ky2o: I sincerely appreciate it, Rem.

night!! :000a1:

EXCERPT

Brodsky also said Peterson told the attorney he never said some of the things the couple attributed to him, including their contention that he'd told them he wishes he'd had Kathleen Savio's body cremated. Brodsky also said Peterson told him he never asked Wawczak to set fire some to a memorial to Stacy Peterson that a neighbor had erected or sabotage a boat that had been used to search for her.

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Brodsky also dismissed some of what Stark and Wawczak said as ridiculous, particularly their comments that Peterson told them he wasn't worried Stacy Peterson's remains would be found because he believed he would have been already tried and acquitted by then.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390072,00.html

Link to video of Greta's interviewing DP's friends
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/

[rockford2]

EXCERPT

Brodsky also said Peterson told the attorney he never said some of the things the couple attributed to him, including their contention that he'd told them he wishes he'd had Kathleen Savio's body cremated. Brodsky also said Peterson told him he never asked Wawczak to set fire some to a memorial to Stacy Peterson that a neighbor had erected or sabotage a boat that had been used to search for her.

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Brodsky also dismissed some of what Stark and Wawczak said as ridiculous, particularly their comments that Peterson told them he wasn't worried Stacy Peterson's remains would be found because he believed he would have been already tried and acquitted by then.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390072,00.html

Link to video of Greta's interviewing DP's friends
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/

thank you so much!!

[rockford2]

so what does everyone think? Is this couple in this for the money/notoriety? Or did they want to help State Police?