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sciencegirl
12-20-2007, 12:45 PM
Fox is just reporting that the prosecutors in Aruba will be releasing evidence they had against the 3 boys sometime today. Fox said it wasn't going to be a televised event; but they have contacts in Aruba who will report back.

This should be interesting to say the least.
Amused
12-20-2007, 01:03 PM
Thanks sciencegirl.......
I am anxiously waiting to hear what they had.

Although every time I anxiously await news from Aruba I am usually disappointed.
sciencegirl
12-20-2007, 01:19 PM
Thanks sciencegirl.......
I am anxiously waiting to hear what they had.

Although every time I anxiously await news from Aruba I am usually disappointed.

Oh; you and me too. I was trying to find a sarcastic smiley for my last sentence. After the outrage over Aruba closing the case; I heard yesterday; that now the case is still open. So, who in the he!! knows with these people.
Luke Davis
12-20-2007, 01:57 PM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba - One of three top suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway wrote during an Internet chat session that the teenager was dead, Aruba‘s chief prosecutor said Thursday.



AP (http://www.onelocalnews.com/akronfarmreport/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=106984)
Justiceguy
12-20-2007, 02:09 PM
And did you read with the prosecutor's office Public Relations guy said? He's got BETTER THINGS TO DO???? GMAB!!!
Luke Davis
12-20-2007, 02:09 PM
How many times have we read on a board that Natalee is dead? And that is the basis for arresting them again? Hans Mos is a joke!


IMO
sciencegirl
12-20-2007, 02:10 PM
AP (http://www.onelocalnews.com/akronfarmreport/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=106984)

Thanks for the link Luke :happy0207:
SavannahStar
12-20-2007, 02:20 PM
How many times have we read on a board that Natalee is dead? And that is the basis for arresting them again? Hans Mos is a joke!


IMO


Precisely.
Details
12-20-2007, 03:08 PM
And did you read with the prosecutor's office Public Relations guy said? He's got BETTER THINGS TO DO???? GMAB!!!He's trying to do his job, getting a few thousand calls from media represenatives all asking the same questions that they've already put out the answers to - yeah, I think he's got better things to do. I can see myself saying the same thing.


I don't think much of the reporter, trying to mess with the guy, by posting that comment of his.
Xainia
12-20-2007, 03:11 PM
And did you read with the prosecutor's office Public Relations guy said? He's got BETTER THINGS TO DO???? GMAB!!!

I thought he meant doing the interview via phone. IF so I agree.

Xainia
Details
12-20-2007, 03:13 PM
Looking forward to the evidence though - it'll be nice to see what they've had.

But - yeah - saying Natalee is dead in a chat room - that's just obvious, IMHO.
Luke Davis
12-20-2007, 05:11 PM
It just dawned on me! This is Hans Mos's proof Natalee is dead, one of the suspects said so in a chat session. http://i12.tinypic.com/29bnd4y.gif
sciencegirl
12-20-2007, 05:15 PM
I can't believe that is all they are releasing. Someone said she was dead in a chat session. I was expecting a whole lot more than that. Not just one incident. I think these judges would let them go if they had a freaking video tape of the death.

And...oh brother...Joe Taco is now on Fox talking about his client. Joran WAS his client when Joran was in the US. Joe IS NOT his lawyer in Aruba and I don't get why Joe keeps referring to Joran as his client.:z0tdntknw:

ETA: Now Joe is saying that this chat session is being taken out of context. What a loser!!!!
Luke Davis
12-20-2007, 05:44 PM
Search Blog with map (http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/12/viii-day-1-side-scan-sonar-search.html)
SavannahStar
12-20-2007, 07:24 PM
Looking forward to the evidence though - it'll be nice to see what they've had.

But - yeah - saying Natalee is dead in a chat room - that's just obvious, IMHO.

I've said it myself. Wonder when they'll suspect me.

:67302:
LiveLaughLuv
12-20-2007, 08:34 PM
AP (http://www.onelocalnews.com/akronfarmreport/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=106984)

Can't that statement be used as an admission of guilt? Why are they releasing this info if they still can't be charged?

We know Natalee is dead, or she would have surfaced already.

This is such an emotional roller coaster for the Holloway family. I really wish the Aruban authorities would do something daring and get those three. I think Joran is the guilty party and the other two the accomplices, or the three of them were in it together. They just know the law, and without a body, no one can be charged! :1187603408.CR.Mothe
TobyTiger
12-20-2007, 08:36 PM
Search Blog with map (http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007/12/viii-day-1-side-scan-sonar-search.html)
Thanks, Luke. Great update on the search.

Is there any confirmation the following is true?
"Anonymous said...
I guess van der Sloots attorneys filed to disallow any of your findings in a court of law due to the fact that you are a private search party for the Holloways and evidence may be planted."
TobyTiger
12-20-2007, 08:40 PM
ETA: Now Joe is saying that this chat session is being taken out of context. What a loser!!!!

It would be great if we knew just what the context was...
Chocoholic
12-21-2007, 12:46 AM
Can't that statement be used as an admission of guilt? Why are they releasing this info if they still can't be charged?

We know Natalee is dead, or she would have surfaced already.

This is such an emotional roller coaster for the Holloway family. I really wish the Aruban authorities would do something daring and get those three. I think Joran is the guilty party and the other two the accomplices, or the three of them were in it together. They just know the law, and without a body, no one can be charged! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

No a statement that Natalee is dead is not an admission of guilt. The first person to publicly state that Natalee was dead was Beth.

We do not know that Natalee is dead. As the judge stated there is no evidence of a violent crime against Natalee, so why should we assume that she is dead?

Even if a body were found, one would have to establish how the murder was committed. Unless Natalee's body was hacked into pieces with a blunt knife or a chainsaw, that's going to be very hard to prove as there will be little or no soft tissue left to look at. Even IF Natalee's remains were found in a crab trap, trick #2 will be to tie the crime to whomever committed the crime. Without anything but a bunch of lies and no other forensic evidence it will be impossible.

Sorry to bust some bubbles but no trap with evidence will be found, no evidence will be found to tie any of the suspects to an crime which as yet has to be established.

I don't understand why so many people would rather see evidence of Natalee dead when the chances of her having run away and living are so much greater.
Luke Davis
12-21-2007, 11:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSAL4FiXAo
Details
12-22-2007, 12:49 AM
It would be great if we knew just what the context was...JMO - but - based on the past history, and general prosecutor tendencies - if the context were incriminating at all - it would have been given.
TobyTiger
12-22-2007, 04:15 PM
I don't understand why so many people would rather see evidence of Natalee dead when the chances of her having run away and living are so much greater.
In order to prosecute Joran and the Kalpoe brothers for her murder. However there would still need to be evidence that THEY did it.
TobyTiger
12-22-2007, 04:16 PM
JMO - but - based on the past history, and general prosecutor tendencies - if the context were incriminating at all - it would have been given.

And in my opinion they would still be in jail.
Luke Davis
12-23-2007, 06:28 PM
"I would have liked to have seen a trial, so that everything could be out in the open," Van der Sloot told DAG in his first public remarks since being released Dec. 7. He had been re-arrested in November for a new interrogation about Holloway's disappearance in 2005.

Herald (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/23/europe/EU-GEN-Netherlands-Aruba-Missing-Teen.php)
TobyTiger
12-23-2007, 07:47 PM
"I would have liked to have seen a trial, so that everything could be out in the open," Van der Sloot told DAG in his first public remarks since being released Dec. 7. He had been re-arrested in November for a new interrogation about Holloway's disappearance in 2005.

Herald (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/23/europe/EU-GEN-Netherlands-Aruba-Missing-Teen.php)

He must be certain there would have been an acquittal. The statute of limitations has not yet expired, however...
Chocoholic
12-24-2007, 02:48 AM
He must be certain there would have been an acquittal. The statute of limitations has not yet expired, however...

Statute of limitations of what?

There is no evidence that Natalee is the victim of a violent crime. The judge said so. He is far more familiar with all the information in the files than any of us are.
jitterbug
12-24-2007, 08:47 AM
There is no evidence because Aruba LE didn't try to find any. They took the lies of 3 suspects and ran with it.

Three men drove off with her in the middle of the night and she was never seen again.

Their lies to the police prove they are guilty for killing her as far as I'm concerned.
TobyTiger
12-24-2007, 04:29 PM
Statute of limitations of what?

There is no evidence that Natalee is the victim of a violent crime. The judge said so. He is far more familiar with all the information in the files than any of us are.
For murder or manslaughter. Correct, there is no evidence, and Joran must be certain that there never will be any evidence that would connect him to a crime, to make such a confident statement. Since there is no such thing as a perfect crime...he must not have committed one.
Luke Davis
12-25-2007, 12:21 AM
There is no evidence because Aruba LE didn't try to find any. They took the lies of 3 suspects and ran with it.

Three men drove off with her in the middle of the night and she was never seen again.

Their lies to the police prove they are guilty for killing her as far as I'm concerned.For those who think Joran is responsible for Natalee vanishing, the best situation would be a cover-up. Then there is always the possibility that someone would get upset and spill the beans.

But assuming that ALE did the best they could and Paulus didn't have the power some want to grant him. Then it is over. Unless Natalee comes out of hiding.


IMO
Chocoholic
12-26-2007, 09:41 AM
There is no evidence because Aruba LE didn't try to find any. They took the lies of 3 suspects and ran with it.

Three men drove off with her in the middle of the night and she was never seen again.

Their lies to the police prove they are guilty for killing her as far as I'm concerned.

ALE's best interest is to find what happened to Natalee, to somehow suggest that they are involved in a coverup is rather ludicrous. One would need to also presume then that ALE would sponsor an Aruban boycott and that all the other law enforcement agencies are also somehow involved in this plot.

If every person that lied to the police was guilty of a crime there would be few people free today.