Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #11

[Faith]

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http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146
Caylee discussion thread #1
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702

Caylee discussion thread #2
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6849

Caylee discussion thread #3
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6866
Caylee discussion thread #4
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6888
Caylee discussion thread #5
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6912
Caylee discussion thread #6
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6927
Caylee discussion thread #7
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6947&page=101
Caylee discussion thread #8
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=313258&posted=1#post313258
Caylee discussion thread #9
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7002
Caylee discussion thread #10
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=316834&posted=1#post316834

[Tracian]

Mark said the family was now all considered 'clients' OMG do they all want amunity?

[sunstar]

Thanks so much Faith! :smile:


DeeJay ~ I completely agree. Cindy doesn't seem too concerned either. :frown:

[awakening2lite]

Hi Faith, Is it possible to put a couple of warning in like say a 10 minute and a 20 minute warning that the threads will be closed?

[chambord]

Nancy Grace is on her toes tonight. She just caught Baez redhanded for denying he once asked for immunity for Casey.

[chambord]

Hi Faith, Is it possible to put a couple of warning in like say a 10 minute and a 20 minute warning that the threads will be closed?

That would be great, I was in the middle of writing the next Pulitzer prize winning post. :wink:

[sunstar]

Nancy Grace is on her toes tonight. She just caught Baez redhanded for denying he once asked for immunity for Casey.

Immunity for Casey? WHY? There isn't even any proof this babysitter/nanny/kidnapper even exists. :groan:

[Isabella]

TY Faith :happy0207:

Tracian and DeeJay...Great observations! ITA

[Lilly]

Nancy Grace is on her toes tonight. She just caught Baez redhanded for denying he once asked for immunity for Casey.

WTH.. they are "over it"? according to their family friend.

[Isabella]

Hi Faith, Is it possible to put a couple of warning in like say a 10 minute and a 20 minute warning that the threads will be closed?
lol I never write a long post if we are on page 25, I know that's when a new thread is coming, and if I do I c/p so I don't have to rewrite. lol

[awakening2lite]

That would be great, I was in the middle of writing the next Pulitzer prize winning post. :wink:

LOL I've been caught in that position a couple of times myself.

[awakening2lite]

lol I never write a long post if we are on page 25, I know that's when a new thread is coming, and if I do I c/p so I don't have to rewrite. lol

Sounds like you are more attentive than some of us.

[Lilly]

It might have been discussed pages before now, but what does everyone make of the convo with Lee and Casey where they're speaking code? Are they saying that they're gonna pass info through Baez? Are they getting their stories straight or what?

Thanks :)

[scout]

I..I... I'm so confused.

WHY would you ask for immunity for your client... if *you* felt your client wasn't guilty of anything?

That makes no sense to me...

[sunstar]

"Self-centered, spoiled brat" ~ Geraldo's description of Casey. He's also saying lying to the FBI would be huge. You either keep your mouth shut or tell the truth. Geraldo's really on a tear against Cindy & Casey tonight!! :happy0158:

[Lilly]

I..I... I'm so confused.

WHY would you ask for immunity for your client... if *you* felt your client wasn't guilty of anything?

That makes no sense to me...

Exactly!

[awakening2lite]

It might have been discussed pages before now, but what does everyone make of the convo with Lee and Casey where they're speaking code? Are they saying that they're gonna pass info through Baez? Are they getting their stories straight or what?

Thanks :)

Now that's the $6 dollar question.

Yes, they are saying they want to talk to Casey and then the attorney and then he will pass it to LE. That was the reasoning being not making the calls or visits public

[DeeJay]

TY Faith :happy0207:

Tracian and DeeJay...Great observations! ITA


I've never been one to actually "hate" many ppl in my long lifetime but there are those that force me to HATE them & the Anthonys are just that type.

[scout]

It might have been discussed pages before now, but what does everyone make of the convo with Lee and Casey where they're speaking code? Are they saying that they're gonna pass info through Baez? Are they getting their stories straight or what?

Thanks :)

I think they openly discussed the handing off of the letter to Baez to be given to them. I don't think they were trying to keep that secretive in anyway.

The getting their stories straight? Yeah. Thats gotta be a concern for the 2 of them..

[awakening2lite]

"Self-centered, spoiled brat" ~ Geraldo's description of Casey. He's also saying lying to the FBI would be huge. You either keep your mouth shut or tell the truth. Geraldo's really on a tear against Cindy & Casey tonight!! :happy0158:

Oh DRAT! Dueling talk shows!!!! My nightmare! Thanks for the updates!

[sunstar]

Geraldo saying Casey could be charged with a more serious felony if the hair & other forensic evidence in the car comes back tied to Caylee, maybe not murder, but something more serious to keep her in jail. Still can't meet bail and appellate court upheld judge's decision for the $500,000.

[Lilly]

Now that's the $6 dollar question.

Yes, they are saying they want to talk to Casey and then the attorney and then he will pass it to LE. That was the reasoning being not making the calls or visits public

WTH....lets all get together and make sure we're on the same page (even though we've lied all over the airwaves!) and agree on what lies we'll feed LE next? Ive tried to keep an open mind about all of this.. but dangit! when are some new charges going to be filed against Casey or her family. This is outrageous!

[sunstar]

Oh DRAT! Dueling talk shows!!!! My nightmare! Thanks for the updates!

You're most welcome ~ you cover NG, I'll cover Fox News!! :biggrin: Geraldo also said he fears Caylee is dead. O'Reilly can't stand Cindy or Casey either.

[chambord]

I..I... I'm so confused.

WHY would you ask for immunity for your client... if *you* felt your client wasn't guilty of anything?

That makes no sense to me...

IIRC Baez was using that as a carrot. He said Casey would talk to LE at that time if she was granted immunity. Its water under the bridge now. Too late.

Just a reminder to everyone, Caylee has been missing six weeks now.:frown:

[DeeJay]

"Self-centered, spoiled brat" ~ Geraldo's description of Casey. He's also saying lying to the FBI would be huge. You either keep your mouth shut or tell the truth. Geraldo's really on a tear against Cindy & Casey tonight!! :happy0158:


ITA with Geraldo! The ONLY TIME Cindy was forthright in this thing was the 911 call. I said that earlier today.

The 911 call was the ONLY TIME Cindy was being candid. Since then, she's only been another stumbling block to help find Caylee. I wish LE could come up with something to arrest HER!!

[Tracian]

Lee if I heard correctly wanted Casey to put everything 'through' Jose before giving it to anyone else....gee that makes sense if they really are not concerned about getting Caylee back.

[Faith]

Hi Faith, Is it possible to put a couple of warning in like say a 10 minute and a 20 minute warning that the threads will be closed?

If I'm sitting here I can tell you all. I will let yall know when setting up the new thread next time.

[DeeJay]

You're most welcome ~ you cover NG, I'll cover Fox News!! :biggrin: Geraldo also said he fears Caylee is dead. O'Reilly can't stand Cindy or Casey either.

LOL! Those shows are replayed later in the evening. What I miss on one, I catch later. :hifive:

[Faith]

Nancy Grace is on her toes tonight. She just caught Baez redhanded for denying he once asked for immunity for Casey.

I saw that-- I love it!!

[Tracian]

Okay, maybe I am kinda dumb....

But IF Casey is telling the truth, and knows where or who has Caylee, wouldn't telling the truth...only help her? Wouldn't that get her boney butt out of jail?

What am I missing?

[Lilly]

ITA with Geraldo! The ONLY TIME Cindy was forthright in this thing was the 911 call. I said that earlier today.

The 911 call was the ONLY TIME Cindy was being candid. Since then, she's only been another stumbling block to help find Caylee. I wish LE could come up with something to arrest HER!!

I still think Cindy was honest on that July 3rd post of hers that Casey had no money, no future and left unexpectedly. At that time she clearly didn't trust Casey's ability to take care of Caylee... and she talked about Caylee and her feelings. She must know Caylee is gone and she only has her daughter left to protect now.. unless admitting that Casey is lying would be too much for her to take.. she'd have to admit that her GD is probably not with us anymore.

[DeeJay]

Geraldo saying Casey could be charged with a more serious felony if the hair & other forensic evidence in the car comes back tied to Caylee, maybe not murder, but something more serious to keep her in jail. Still can't meet bail and appellate court upheld judge's decision for the $500,000.

Yea, that's pretty much what I posted on the previous thread.

[Lilly]

NG is saying that Casey refuses to meet directly with FBI even.. all communication has to go through her lawyer. Might be old news to ya'll though!

[scout]

Okay, maybe I am kinda dumb....

But IF Casey is telling the truth, and knows where or who has Caylee, wouldn't telling the truth...only help her? Wouldn't that get her boney butt out of jail?

What am I missing?

OK.. I'll take a shot at this one: She can't say anything because she fears something terrible might happen to caylee if she does!!

Thats right.. isn't it you guys? I think thats what shes been saying all along...
That 'they' could hurt her somehow...

[DeeJay]

I still think Cindy was honest on that July 3rd post of hers that Casey had no money, no future and left unexpectedly. At that time she clearly didn't trust Casey's ability to take care of Caylee... and she talked about Caylee and her feelings. She must know Caylee is gone and she only has her daughter left to protect now.. unless admitting that Casey is lying would be too much for her to take.. she'd have to admit that her GD is probably not with us anymore.

I didn't see that post until this morning. Cindy changed back to molly-coddling Casey since the 911 call.

Casey has been treated like a princess since the day she was born. Natural born liar and her parents really don't realize it, BUT! I do think Lee does.

[awakening2lite]

You're most welcome ~ you cover NG, I'll cover Fox News!! :biggrin: Geraldo also said he fears Caylee is dead. O'Reilly can't stand Cindy or Casey either.


TH's agree because Casey was arrested she should have an attorney and guard her words


NG to Holly: the family met with FBI and they are trying, how did it go?

Holly: spoke with Cindy and they are very happy the FBI is involved

NG: we heard from the FBI that they had no request from the family or Casey to come in. And attorney said they wanted them

Holly: The attorney might be standing in the way

NG: why won't she meet with them to find her daughter

Holly: I do not know. I do not think Casey murdered daughter. (she is getting upset)

NG you think Casey is a good mom, what do you think of the photos?

Holly: ok, the ans I give yo is that makes me think she knows she is ok. I cannot believe this girl could have her in the back of her car. (and she goes on)

NG: Holly I pray you are right

Holly: you and me every night was I tuck my daughter in.

[chambord]

This Holly neighbor/friend of the Anthony's sounds like something is in the drinking water at that neighborhood. She has a daughter and has no compunction about Casey refusing to answer questions.

[scout]

I still think Cindy was honest on that July 3rd post of hers that Casey had no money, no future and left unexpectedly. At that time she clearly didn't trust Casey's ability to take care of Caylee... and she talked about Caylee and her feelings. She must know Caylee is gone and she only has her daughter left to protect now.. unless admitting that Casey is lying would be too much for her to take.. she'd have to admit that her GD is probably not with us anymore.

EXACTLY!... in that post that Cindy made... she was NOT thinking of her daughter Casey as a great mom! NO WAY! She was practically calling her a complete failure... at everything she does!!!

[chambord]

OK.. I'll take a shot at this one: She can't say anything because she fears something terrible might happen to caylee if she does!!

Thats right.. isn't it you guys? I think thats what shes been saying all along...
That 'they' could hurt her somehow...

Cindy said today, Casey is *afraid someone will walk into the room*. WTF does that mean.

[awakening2lite]

Pathologist: The dogs are after something. They are trained to id human remains. They can tell the difference between animal and human. The second dog was brought in to confirm the first

NG to another DR: on the test results

Dr: it takes time to get it done

Caller: When C was first arrested did they take her to Univ and return to scene of the crime,, have they checked out Univ

NG: they went there to find where babysitter came from and they checked Univ

Man: You don't send out question to interviewers you need to sit down and talk to them

sorry it's sketchy

[scout]

Cindy said today, Casey is *afraid someone will walk into the room*. WTF does that mean.

.. there ya go! .... :frustratedf: Exactly. WTF?

[sunstar]

ITA with Geraldo! The ONLY TIME Cindy was forthright in this thing was the 911 call. I said that earlier today.

The 911 call was the ONLY TIME Cindy was being candid. Since then, she's only been another stumbling block to help find Caylee. I wish LE could come up with something to arrest HER!!

I completely agree too and do wish they could charge her with something but I don't know if there's any proof she knows where Caylee is. :shrug1:

[Faith]

It might have been discussed pages before now, but what does everyone make of the convo with Lee and Casey where they're speaking code? Are they saying that they're gonna pass info through Baez? Are they getting their stories straight or what?

Thanks :)

I can't get it straight in my mind what they are doing. It seems they are trying to say for Casey to write the letter then Jose can give it to Lee. IMO that is interfering with an investigation.

[awakening2lite]

This Holly neighbor/friend of the Anthony's sounds like something is in the drinking water at that neighborhood. She has a daughter and has no compunction about Casey refusing to answer questions.

Cham I'm thinking is the woman agree something is wrong how long could she expect to be on TV?
How would it look for her in the community where she is know as a friend of them?
I have to consider the source.

[Lilly]

This Holly neighbor/friend of the Anthony's sounds like something is in the drinking water at that neighborhood. She has a daughter and has no compunction about Casey refusing to answer questions.

If she's really a good friend of Cindy, then she has to know about the struggles they've had with Casey lying and stealing, etc. So yeah, something must be in the water there! She admitted that it sounds bad and they don't understand why Casey is lying but the just KNOW that she didn't do anything to her daughter.. even though she herself watches NG and sees these stories about other people. Maybe they just think they're above all this!

[Tracian]

OK.. I'll take a shot at this one: She can't say anything because she fears something terrible might happen to caylee if she does!!

Thats right.. isn't it you guys? I think thats what shes been saying all along...
That 'they' could hurt her somehow...



That's right, the terrible THEY are lurking...this girl is writing a screen play for a really bad soap opera...

[DeeJay]

OK.. I'll take a shot at this one: She can't say anything because she fears something terrible might happen to caylee if she does!!

Thats right.. isn't it you guys? I think thats what shes been saying all along...
That 'they' could hurt her somehow...

Well......this thing blew WIDE OPEN what, 2 weeks ago? If the napper doesn't know Casey's said the nanny napper kidnapped Caylee.........by NOW! fgs!! Even Cindy's chanting the same thing Casey's been saying.

Casey & Cindy are dumb as a plank.

[Jute]

lol I never write a long post if we are on page 25, I know that's when a new thread is coming, and if I do I c/p so I don't have to rewrite. lol

:blondblush113268230 My threads go up to page 100. :smiley_aasg:

[awakening2lite]

If I'm sitting here I can tell you all. I will let yall know when setting up the new thread next time.


Thank you, bless you for the being considerate and taking the time to do that!

[sunstar]

This Holly neighbor/friend of the Anthony's sounds like something is in the drinking water at that neighborhood. She has a daughter and has no compunction about Casey refusing to answer questions.

I saw her give a brief interview over the weekend and she said she had taken care of Caylee at some point and also said Casey is a good mother. She admitted then she hasn't taken care of Caylee for a while though.

[Lilly]

I can't get it straight in my mind what they are doing. It seems they are trying to say for Casey to write the letter then Jose can give it to Lee. IMO that is interfering with an investigation.

This is what I was thinking. They'd pass info through the lawyer.. write back and forth and see what Baez thinks about it too. Pass info through the lawyer to Lee so that he can check on things that she HASNT/WONT tell LE.

[DeeJay]

I completely agree too and do wish they could charge her with something but I don't know if there's any proof she knows where Caylee is. :shrug1:


I keep holding on to LE knows a LOT that WE aren't aware of....yet!

I know how cases go, not a word from LE sometimes for weeks and THEN BAM! A Breaking News presser! hits us when we least expect it.

[chambord]

I saw her give a brief interview over the weekend and she said she had taken care of Caylee at some point and also said Casey is a good mother. She admitted then she hasn't taken care of Caylee for a while though.

Was she the neighbor who gave Casey the Good Hosukeeping Mother of the Year award because Casey nursed Caylee?

[sunstar]

I keep holding on to LE knows a LOT that WE aren't aware of....yet!

I know how cases go, not a word from LE sometimes for weeks and THEN BAM! A Breaking News presser! hits us when we least expect it.

I did hear the OCSD tell Megyn Kelly yesterday morning that they haven't gotten the test results back yet, so maybe (I pray) when that comes in there will be more charges. :smile:

[Lilly]

I keep holding on to LE knows a LOT that WE aren't aware of....yet!

I know how cases go, not a word from LE sometimes for weeks and THEN BAM! A Breaking News presser! hits us when we least expect it.

TY DeeJay.. that's what I'm hoping.. the test results will get back and BAM!!

[sunstar]

Was she the neighbor who gave Casey the Good Hosukeeping Mother of the Year award because Casey nursed Caylee?

I think so! :puke:

[Tracian]

Wow....Mark is ticked....

[Isabella]

:blondblush113268230 My threads go up to page 100. :smiley_aasg:
lol Oh well I guess you can set your user profile as to how many posts you see on one page? So I guess my post's didn't make sense, sorry..lol And I read backwards, I start on the most current page when I log on and read back. Maybe I am weird, I dunno.

[awakening2lite]

NG runs the tapes of LEE and Casey


She shows the toilet pic of Casey

NG photos are after Caylee was missing

Caller: 2 questions
Has the mother told what she was wearing?
First 911 tape Cindy said daughter missing 31 days and cant find gdaught. Then says she talked to Casey everyday was she setting up an alibi for her?

TH: Good question. Is she. Also on the case granting immunity. This is not Law and Order this is reality you don't grant immunity until after they talk

NG gives descption of clothing

caller: she told her mother the nanny took baby to beach but att. did not know that. Why does she not plea to public

TH she is in great state of denial. She doesn't seem to comp that she is in jail. Some mental problem?

Mark: I thnk she is cold calculation evil woman. The reality the longer it goes the reality is the child may be found dead or not at all (paraphrase)

NG: the car

Penny: how long did she have the car? How long did she not have the car?
Ng: lawless we know she took gas and the car was found with her pocket book on front seat
Lawless: People steal cars all the time. There is no evidence she did anything other than not report her missing

NG 2 cadaver dogs hit on car

TH: if the attorneys believe her why don't they put up their homes and bail her out, they know she is guilty.

break

[DeeJay]

TY DeeJay.. that's what I'm hoping.. the test results will get back and BAM!!

Yesterday, on one of the programs, someone said they expect the DNA on the body fluids should be back by this coming Wednesday. Hair samples would take a few weeks longer.

[Jute]

If the attys really believe her, why don't they put up their homes to bail her out? Because they don't - that's why. - NG Guest

[Lilly]

NG just said that Casey's purse was in her abandoned car. Has this been reported/proven elsewhere? Makes me wonder if Casey was planning on disappearing herself, or setting it up to look like she and Cayley had been abducted, but chickened out or something.

[awakening2lite]

Is everyone watching NG? do you need me to report?

[DeeJay]

Is everyone watching NG? do you need me to report?

I've been watching NG.


eta....Her transcripts should be up soon.

[sunstar]

Is everyone watching NG? do you need me to report?

I switched over to NG after O'Reilly finished his segment on Caylee. :smile: Was Abrams going to have anything tonight or do we now have to wait for Greta?

[chambord]

Wow....Mark is ticked....

Good to see you Tracian. How's the jeep, hubby and fur baby.

Mark Klass is on the money tonight. The longer the loss of Caylee goes on, the less chance anyone has of finding her. I still am reminded of Trenton, its been almost three years. In past missing child cases, Mark usually meets with the family who have lost children to help them walk the walk, in this instance, he has not. I can only assume what he thinks.

[Isabella]

NG just said that Casey's purse was in her abandoned car. Has this been reported/proven elsewhere? Makes me wonder if Casey was planning on disappearing herself, or setting it up to look like she and Cayley had been abducted, but chickened out or something.
Cindy said it the other day BUT it has never been said before, I don't think that is true myself. Casey has even mentioned her missing/lost sim card but never her purse.

[chambord]

NG just said that Casey's purse was in her abandoned car. Has this been reported/proven elsewhere? Makes me wonder if Casey was planning on disappearing herself, or setting it up to look like she and Cayley had been abducted, but chickened out or something.


Casey mentioned the particular purse to Lee on one of the jail calls. She had taken several with her, and IMO, the empty purse was just a prop. She left that car in a lot where Cindy drove by every day, going back and forth to work. IMO, Casey was trying to exact revenge on Cindy, for what reason, I don't know, maybe a mental illness, or a hate that Cindy had become the surrogate mom to Caylee, and she hated that.

[awakening2lite]

I switched over to NG after O'Reilly finished his segment on Caylee. :smile: Was Abrams going to have anything tonight or do we now have to wait for Greta?

I haven't heard anything, don't know.

[sunstar]

Good to see you Tracian. How's the jeep, hubby and fur baby.

Mark Klass is on the money tonight. The longer the loss of Caylee goes on, the less chance anyone has of finding her. I still am reminded of Trenton, its been almost three years. In past missing child cases, Mark usually meets with the family who have lost children to help them walk the walk, in this instance, he has not. I can only assume what he thinks.

I know it seems longer, but didn't Trenton go missing in Aug. 2006? :smile:

[DeeJay]

Cindy on LKL right now.

[awakening2lite]

Cindy is on LK now

[sunstar]

Cindy on LKL right now.

Again??? :groan: OK, I'll watch! :girl_haha:

[Lilly]

Casey mentioned the particular purse to Lee on one of the jail calls. She had taken several with her, and IMO, the empty purse was just a prop. She left that car in a lot where Cindy drove by every day, going back and forth to work. IMO, Casey was trying to exact revenge on Cindy, for what reason, I don't know, maybe a mental illness, or a hate that Cindy had become the surrogate mom to Caylee, and she hated that.

wow.. that's cruel leaving the car with the carseat and her purse in it hoping Cindy would find it and think something had happened

[chambord]

I know it seems longer, but didn't Trenton go missing in Aug. 2006? :smile:

I stand corrected.

[Isabella]

Again??? :groan: OK, I'll watch! :girl_haha:
Be brave :girl_haha:

I remember when Elizabeth Smart went missing the entire family stood behind the family and helped however they could, if the Anthony's have other family, where are they all?

It is always just Cindy.

[DeeJay]

Cindy knows she's safe going on LKL, he won't ask the tough HARDBALL questions like Nancy Grace does.

[awakening2lite]

Larry is such a softy.

[sunstar]

I stand corrected.

For a moment I thought I'd missed a year! :kissyface4:

[awakening2lite]

How much, if anything, is Cindy being paid for the mag stories?

[Lilly]

Cindy is full of cr*p.

[sunstar]

Be brave :girl_haha:

I remember when Elizabeth Smart went missing the entire family stood behind the family and helped however they could, if the Anthony's have other family, where are they all?

It is always just Cindy.

I noticed that. She must be the spokesperson. Of course, the Smarts are all about family. No comparison to this "mess"! :smile:

[Lilly]

Who has supposedly filled Cindy in on "all the facts" and convinced her that Casey is not involved?

[KittyMom]

I've missed all the shows this week...Braves series.

I really wish Casey would break.

[Isabella]

Cindy knows she's safe going on LKL, he won't ask the tough HARDBALL questions like Nancy Grace does.
omg same ole Cindy, she never changes.
The only facts she has is what Casey tells her, and sorry but
yes she (cindy) has lied, she didn't stretch the truth she LIED and she continues.

[Trailblazer]

Who has supposedly filled Cindy in on "all the facts" and convinced her that Casey is not involved?

Casey did...

[Isabella]

Who has supposedly filled Cindy in on "all the facts" and convinced her that Casey is not involved?
Casey :shrug1:

[Faith]

Thank you, bless you for the being considerate and taking the time to do that!

Just always remember I will move it around 100-- :67302:I will let yall know ahead of time tho-

[Lilly]

Casey did...

How though? Through the lawyer? She's saying that she didn't have all the facts when Casey was arrested, but now she knows the "truth" and believes her daughter.

[Trailblazer]

How though? Through the lawyer? She's saying that she didn't have all the facts when Casey was arrested, but now she knows the "truth" and believes her daughter.

Code...thru visits and phone calls...is my guess....
:shrug1:

[Faith]

I've missed all the shows this week...Braves series.

I really wish Casey would break.

I love me some braves~!!

[awakening2lite]

omg same ole Cindy, she never changes.
The only facts she has is what Casey tells her, and sorry but
yes she (cindy) has lied, she didn't stretch the truth she LIED and she continues.


It really got to me when Cindy said she said whatever she needed to to the 911 operator to get LE out immediately, but that doesn't make her a liar. She said she told mistruths but that doesn't make her a liar.

Is it any wonder her daughter can't find her way to a truthful statement?

[sunstar]

I love me some braves~!!

So do I!! :happy0158:

[sunstar]

It really got to me when Cindy said she said whatever she needed to to the 911 operator to get LE out immediately, but that doesn't make her a liar. She said she told mistruths but that doesn't make her a liar.

Is it any wonder her daughter can't find her way to a truthful statement?

Yes, it's obvious where Casey got that trait. :groan:

[awakening2lite]

Dan A promises to cover the story next

[Lilly]

RU playing with me TB? lol They would've been recorded and we'd all be set straight and believing Casey by now! I guess you're saying it's BS? lol

[awakening2lite]

Yes, it's obvious where Casey got that trait. :groan:

Maybe it's just me, but I am surprised the neighbor woman, Holly, can know them, the ease by which they incorporate lies, and defend them. Maybe it's true that birds of a feather do find each other.

Maybe it's just me, but there is no way I could stand to have anyone who lies like that in my life. 2 wild eyed lies and I wouldn't answer the door or the phone to them. Guess that sounds harsh.

[Lilly]

So do I!! :happy0158:

Us too!!:zm10:

[Faith]

Dan A promises to cover the story next

TY, I missed LK- trying to cook and run around looking for todays articles-- I have TV on MSNBC now-- BBIAB-- cooking a burger lol

[Lilly]

Maybe it's just me, but I am surprised the neighbor woman, Holly, can know them, the ease by which they incorporate lies, and defend them. Maybe it's true that birds of a feather do find each other.

Maybe it's just me, but there is no way I could stand to have anyone who lies like that in my life. 2 wild eyed lies and I wouldn't answer the door or the phone to them. Guess that sounds harsh.

My guess is that Holly prides herself in being a good supportive friend, always willing to help. Remember she watched Caylee free of charge for a year. Good Ole Holly.. you can depend on her to be there when you need a friend!~:francis:

[sunstar]

Maybe it's just me, but I am surprised the neighbor woman, Holly, can know them, the ease by which they incorporate lies, and defend them. Maybe it's true that birds of a feather do find each other.

Maybe it's just me, but there is no way I could stand to have anyone who lies like that in my life. 2 wild eyed lies and I wouldn't answer the door or the phone to them. Guess that sounds harsh.
They wouldn't be my friends either. I just can't see someone like Holly getting on national tv and defending Casey when it's obvious to the media & the rest of us that Casey is a habitual liar!

[Trailblazer]

RU playing with me TB? lol They would've been recorded and we'd all be set straight and believing Casey by now! I guess you're saying it's BS? lol


Not playing...but it's obvious that Cindy believes whatever her daughter tells her....and YES, they would have been recorded, but doesn't mean that LE believes Casey...

[awakening2lite]

TY, I missed LK- trying to cook and run around looking for todays articles-- I have TV on MSNBC now-- BBIAB-- cooking a burger lol

I know your day has to be hectic, Faith. You're here, there for your family and I bet you have a real life too. Wow!

[Lilly]

TY, I missed LK- trying to cook and run around looking for todays articles-- I have TV on MSNBC now-- BBIAB-- cooking a burger lol

You didn't miss much! When LK said they were gonna play the 911 tape Cindy said something like "again? we just saw this a couple of days ago!" and Larry said "oh well, we're gonna see it again" :67302:

[DeeJay]

Who has supposedly filled Cindy in on "all the facts" and convinced her that Casey is not involved?


Hundred thousand dollar question.

I wish she'd stop telling that hogwash &
stay off tv!!

[Faith]

Lilly, I want to know that too- I personally think Cindy is making everything fit as questions are asked of her no matter how it sounds. She doesn't care what we think, she's made that clear. What will be funny is IF Casey ever talks or does talk to FBI- no telling how all that will come out. It will be a completely different story than Cindy's.

Unless- Cindy knew something before July 15th and they got their stories together.

[Lilly]

Not playing...but it's obvious that Cindy believes whatever her daughter tells her....and YES, they would have been recorded, but doesn't mean that LE believes Casey...

OK, sorry TB! So, Cindy might have the same info as LE, but believes everything Casey says. I was wondering what she meant by the media is only giving snippetts and if we had the whole story it would make sense. Thanks :)

[KittyMom]

Has the People mag come out?

[DeeJay]

How though? Through the lawyer? She's saying that she didn't have all the facts when Casey was arrested, but now she knows the "truth" and believes her daughter.


Cindy better hope Caylee's found alive and well. If not, I guess that's when we will no longer hear from grandma. thankfully.

[Lilly]

Lilly, I want to know that too- I personally think Cindy is making everything fit as questions are asked of her no matter how it sounds. She doesn't care what we think, she's made that clear. What will be funny is IF Casey ever talks or does talk to FBI- no telling how all that will come out. It will be a completely different story than Cindy's.

Unless- Cindy knew something before July 15th and they got their stories together.

Yup.. I wanna know if she's ignorant and stupid, or has been involved from the start.

[KittyMom]

I love me some braves~!!

8 to 4 right now...let's hope they can keep the lead. :happy0158:

[awakening2lite]

They wouldn't be my friends either. I just can't see someone like Holly getting on national tv and defending Casey when it's obvious to the media & the rest of us that Casey is a habitual liar!

As cold as this may sound, Holly might get something if it becomes a movie and/or book. But, then again, maybe she can really "relate" to them.

[Lilly]

OMG.. Cindy isn't wearing a tank top in the Dan Abrams interview!!!! This must be her supportive Mom attire.

[KittyMom]

I've been reading at the topix forum and someone mentioned that NG said the test results on the trunk should be back in a matter of hours. Did anyone else hear that?

[DeeJay]

Has the People mag come out?

today or tomorrow. depends on individual stores.

I have a dental appt. on tues. and my dentist normally
has People mags....I'll read it there. LOL!

[sunstar]

As cold as this may sound, Holly might get something if it becomes a movie and/or book. But, then again, maybe she can really "relate" to them.

I agree that people one chooses as close friends are much like themselves. :smile:

[Trailblazer]

I've been reading at the topix forum and someone mentioned that NG said the test results on the trunk should be back in a matter of hours. Did anyone else hear that?


Yeah you know NG...but then later said in a few days...So who knows :shrug1:

[KittyMom]

Yeah you know NG...but then later said in a few days...So who knows :shrug1:

lol...thanks, I wondered why no one here was mentioning it.

[awakening2lite]

I agree that people one chooses as close friends are much like themselves. :smile:

Yes, and thank you for finding a better way to express our shared thought.

[sunstar]

I've been reading at the topix forum and someone mentioned that NG said the test results on the trunk should be back in a matter of hours. Did anyone else hear that?

Were they talking about preliminary test results (those done in the field) such as to see if a substance was blood or not, or the test results we're waiting for now?

[Isabella]

I've been reading at the topix forum and someone mentioned that NG said the test results on the trunk should be back in a matter of hours. Did anyone else hear that?
NG can be dramatic..earliest I heard was next Wednesday so that's what 161 hours? lol

[awakening2lite]

I've been reading at the topix forum and someone mentioned that NG said the test results on the trunk should be back in a matter of hours. Did anyone else hear that?


EXCERPT
POSTED: 12:08 pm EDT July 31, 2008
UPDATED: 12:49 pm EDT July 31, 2008

The sheriff’s department also said it is hopeful that lab test results from items found in Casey Anthony’s car, including a hair and a suspicious stain, will be available by the end of next week.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17050469/detail.html

[Faith]

I know your day has to be hectic, Faith. You're here, there for your family and I bet you have a real life too. Wow!

No real life really..lol, working in my yard is what I enjoy but it's too dang hot for that.-- tomorrow will be a mirror of today. :francis:

[sunstar]

Yes, and thank you for finding a better way to express our shared thought.

You're welcome :smile: but I was just trying to generalize the wording!

[DeeJay]

On the Record/FOXNEWS coming up in a few.

[Isabella]

EXCERPT
POSTED: 12:08 pm EDT July 31, 2008
UPDATED: 12:49 pm EDT July 31, 2008

The sheriff’s department also said it is hopeful that lab test results from items found in Casey Anthony’s car, including a hair and a suspicious stain, will be available by the end of next week.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17050469/detail.html
TY..That seems like a long time, I want to know now.

[KittyMom]

On the Record/FOXNEWS coming up in a few.

Please report. Braves are still playing.

[Claycat]

They need to arrest Cindy and force feed her. She's looking really thin.

[sunstar]

Please report. Braves are still playing.

Braves won!!! :s1gyahoo: Now we can all watch Greta!

[sunstar]

Jamie Colby is sitting in tonight for Greta. She's starting out with a report by Steph Watts on the scene, talking about the pictures from the club and what the DJ said. Seems the DJ thinks Casey was a terrific mother (yuck, not again!!) and he was close to Caylee, played games with her and so forth. He hadn't seen her since mid-June though.

[sunstar]

DJ told the reporter that the last time he saw Caylee was June 13. Casey went to club, returned w/o Caylee. After that Casey was always at Tony's and Caylee wasn't around. According to DJ, Casey told him Caylee's father died in a car crash on way to Caylee's birthday party.

[awakening2lite]

Jamie Colby is sitting in tonight for Greta. She's starting out with a report by Steph Watts on the scene, talking about the pictures from the club and what the DJ said. Seems the DJ thinks Casey was a terrific mother (yuck, not again!!) and he was close to Caylee, played games with her and so forth. He hadn't seen her since mid-June though.

13 June ~ last time they saw Caylee. Casey told them Caylee was with Cindy or the babysitter.

[mollybrown]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.

[chambord]

Jamie Colby is sitting in tonight for Greta. She's starting out with a report by Steph Watts on the scene, talking about the pictures from the club and what the DJ said. Seems the DJ thinks Casey was a terrific mother (yuck, not again!!) and he was close to Caylee, played games with her and so forth. He hadn't seen her since mid-June though.

Holy Moly, thanks for the info, I was just going to ask who this dude was. I just logged back on here.

How would any of these characters know what kind of mother Casey was? They only knew her from the club scene.

[awakening2lite]

LE Doing a search NOW where even the family doesn't know based on the evidence found in the car.

[sunstar]

Cindy hasn't talked with Casey today, the only way they can is if she's home when Casey calls. She was out most of today and missed a call and she will be out tomorrow arranging a benefit for Caylee. She feels very confident that things are being followed up with now that FBI is on the case. :groan:

[Isabella]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.
omg well then it can't be Jesus' Ortiz, he was killed in a car wreck May 8th, Caylee's BD is August 9th. :0009:

[Lilly]

they thought the FBI would be there July 16th... Cindy said hopefully they haven't wasted too many days...

[sunstar]

Holy Moly, thanks for the info, I was just going to ask who this dude was. I just logged back on here.

How would any of these characters know what kind of mother Casey was? They only knew her from the club scene.

The DJ also apparently told the reporter that he, Tony, Casey & Caylee lived in this house for a while, but I'm not sure just how long. What seems key to me is no one saw Caylee after June 13. Casey told Tony & DJ that Caylee was with a nanny/sitter.

[chambord]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.


So does that mean Cindy lied when she said she had no idea who Caylee's dad was?

This is getting absurd,

[sunstar]

omg well then it can't be Jesus' Ortiz, he was killed in a car wreck May 8th, Caylee's BD is August 9th. :0009:

It seems it isn't Ortiz, but who can trust anything Casey says? :shrug1:

[Lilly]

So does that mean Cindy lied when she said she had no idea who Caylee's dad was?

This is getting absurd,

It probably means that Casey lied.

OK, they last saw Caylee on June 13th.. Casey and Caylee left around July 3rd according to Cindy's blog.. lived with Toney... they took Caylee to see GGP at the nursing home on the 15th and no one has seen her since?

[awakening2lite]

The DJ also apparently told the reporter that he, Tony, Casey & Caylee lived in this house for a while, but I'm not sure just how long. What seems key to me is no one saw Caylee after June 13. Casey told Tony & DJ that Caylee was with a nanny/sitter.

We need to keep in mind the father's day visit with granddad.

[sunstar]

LE Doing a search NOW where even the family doesn't know based on the evidence found in the car.

Somethings not making sense with this new timeline. If something happened to Caylee on the night of June 13, how can she be with the great granddad on Father's Day, June 15. Also if something happened to her mid-June, then why does Casey wait until the end of the month to ditch the car, and when it's found it smells of decomposition? Wouldn't it be smelling much sooner especially in the heat if something happened mid-month? :smiley_aasg:

[KittyMom]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.

I thought the guy was killed in NC. What was he doing, driving back to FL?

[sunstar]

We need to keep in mind the father's day visit with granddad.

I just posted that question about a minute after you did this one!! :happy0158:

[Pauli]

The DJ also apparently told the reporter that he, Tony, Casey & Caylee lived in this house for a while, but I'm not sure just how long. What seems key to me is no one saw Caylee after June 13. Casey told Tony & DJ that Caylee was with a nanny/sitter.


DJ is saying June 13, Tony said June 2 was that last time Caylee was there...:0009:

[awakening2lite]

TY..That seems like a long time, I want to know now.


yw.

It is a long time. And like you, I want to know now.

[Trailblazer]

It probably means that Casey lied.

OK, they last saw Caylee on June 13th.. Casey and Caylee left around July 3rd according to Cindy's blog.. lived with Toney... they took Caylee to see GGP at the nursing home on the 15th and no one has seen her since?


Last time Cindy saw Caylee was June 15th at the Nursing home......Cindy's blog was dated July 3rd, but it never said that was when Casey and Caylee left...

[sunstar]

I thought the guy was killed in NC. What was he doing, driving back to FL?

I don't put any faith in what Casey says. Caylee's father wasn't part of her life, and I don't think Casey wanted him to be or anyone to know who he was. She might have just made up a lot of stuff, imo.

[Isabella]

Somethings not making sense with this new timeline. If something happened to Caylee on the night of June 13, how can she be with the great granddad on Father's Day, June 15. Also if something happened to her mid-June, then why does Casey wait until the end of the month to ditch the car, and when it's found it smells of decomposition? Wouldn't it be smelling much sooner especially in the heat if something happened mid-month? :smiley_aasg:
Casey didn't move out her her moms home and into Tony's until June 16th, they may have seen Caylee on June 13th, whatever happened happened after the 16th.

[Lilly]

Last time Cindy saw Caylee was June 15th at the Nursing home......Cindy's blog was dated July 3rd, but it never said that was when Casey and Caylee left...

Thanks Trailblazer! I'm getting my June and July mixed up in the timeline! I'm sorry if I confused anyone other than myself.

[sunstar]

DJ is saying June 13, Tony said June 2 was that last time Caylee was there...:0009:

It seems one of those two isn't being truthful, imo.

[Isabella]

DJ is saying June 13, Tony said June 2 was that last time Caylee was there...:0009:
Yep good point.

[Claycat]

Somethings not making sense with this new timeline. If something happened to Caylee on the night of June 13, how can she be with the great granddad on Father's Day, June 15. Also if something happened to her mid-June, then why does Casey wait until the end of the month to ditch the car, and when it's found it smells of decomposition? Wouldn't it be smelling much sooner especially in the heat if something happened mid-month? :smiley_aasg:

Is it possible that she dug the body up where it was originally buried and moved it to a different location? That would be why the car smelled so bad. (I think someone had already posted about this.) Maybe she was afraid someone would find it where it was buried in the Anthony's backyard.

It could be Caylee died in the backyard, was buried there, and then was moved.

[chambord]

Cindy hasn't talked with Casey today, the only way they can is if she's home when Casey calls. She was out most of today and missed a call and she will be out tomorrow arranging a benefit for Caylee. She feels very confident that things are being followed up with now that FBI is on the case. :groan:

Cindy and Casey should remember the old adage, be careful what you wish for. The FBI has run up against these types before.

[awakening2lite]

Jeff Hopkins did not introduce Casey to babysitter and he didn't know Casey was missing. He is not happy his name has been brought into this. He barely knew Casey.

Another lie from Casey

Can't find Juliet Lewis to this day

[Isabella]

Did they say if Jeff Hopkins knew Juliet Lewis?

[Claycat]

It seems one of those two isn't being truthful, imo.

It sure does look that way, Sunstar!

[Trailblazer]

The producer earlier said that Casey can get out in 30 days? And Cindy said she didn't know anything about that...that she left that all to Casey's attorney?

Now I'm confused...I thought she had to wait until a trial.

[Trailblazer]

DJ is saying June 13, Tony said June 2 was that last time Caylee was there...:0009:

And then we wonder why we're confused??? :groan:

[Faith]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.

I don't believe that for a minute.

[sunstar]

Casey didn't move out her her moms home and into Tony's until June 16th, they may have seen Caylee on June 13th, whatever happened happened after the 16th.

That would sure fit in with the original "31 days" from the 911 call, but I was thinking it was closer to the time she abandoned the car, which wasn't until the 24th (?). If something happened to Caylee in the car, then it couldn't have been mid-month or the odor would've been there then. The only thing that makes sense is if Caylee died in the middle of June, could she have been buried and then dug up and put in the trunk and moved somewhere else and that's what caused the odor? :shrug1:

[awakening2lite]

Somethings not making sense with this new timeline. If something happened to Caylee on the night of June 13, how can she be with the great granddad on Father's Day, June 15. Also if something happened to her mid-June, then why does Casey wait until the end of the month to ditch the car, and when it's found it smells of decomposition? Wouldn't it be smelling much sooner especially in the heat if something happened mid-month? :smiley_aasg:

I think this is another piece of the puzzle.

It's the DJ thru the reporter.

They need to go back and check the visitor log at the nursing home. Maybe the father's day was celebrated early. I also wonder why no photo of Dad anthony was taken on that day.

[Faith]

You're correct Pauli. Tony said last time he saw Caylee was on June 2. We may see someone being questioned after this aired.

[sunstar]

It sure does look that way, Sunstar!

I'm so confused with all these different dates and stories!! :groan:

[chambord]

I don't put any faith in what Casey says. Caylee's father wasn't part of her life, and I don't think Casey wanted him to be or anyone to know who he was. She might have just made up a lot of stuff, imo.

I wonder why Casey felt the need to keep paternity secret. Most single moms caught in her situation need the assistance of the sperm donor. Why the need to sheild his identity?

[Pauli]

That would sure fit in with the original "31 days" from the 911 call, but I was thinking it was closer to the time she abandoned the car, which wasn't until the 24th (?). If something happened to Caylee in the car, then it couldn't have been mid-month or the odor would've been there then. The only thing that makes sense is if Caylee died in the middle of June, could she have been buried and then dug up and put in the trunk and moved somewhere else and that's what caused the odor? :shrug1:

that would be my guess...

[Trailblazer]

Did they say if Jeff Hopkins knew Juliet Lewis?


I don't think so...

And I love it...on July 15th after the 911 calls...Casey then sends out a mass email telling every that Caylee is missing...geez

[awakening2lite]

It seems one of those two isn't being truthful, imo.

or accurate.

[Isabella]

That would sure fit in with the original "31 days" from the 911 call, but I was thinking it was closer to the time she abandoned the car, which wasn't until the 24th (?). If something happened to Caylee in the car, then it couldn't have been mid-month or the odor would've been there then. The only thing that makes sense is if Caylee died in the middle of June, could she have been buried and then dug up and put in the trunk and moved somewhere else and that's what caused the odor? :shrug1:
I thought of that to, the thing of that is if it happened closer to the 27th when the car was ditched, and remember Jesse says heard Caylee in the background on the 25th then how come NOBODY saw Caylee after the 16th of June? Not one single person has said they saw Caylee after the 16th of June? :francis:

Yes to what you said.lol

[mollybrown]

I wonder why Casey felt the need to keep paternity secret. Most single moms caught in her situation need the assistance of the sperm donor. Why the need to sheild his identity?

Cause Casey is all about LIES.... There would be no SYMPATHY for CASEY if the father hadn't died. :groan:

[Lilly]

I don't know if I believe in psychics or not, but I found this site and there's a "theory" about how it might have happened that includes the shovel, trunk, etc. A possible theory that would fit :(


http://briansprediction.com/gale/Caylee%20Anthony.htm

[awakening2lite]

Did they say if Jeff Hopkins knew Juliet Lewis?

they said no one has been able to find out anything about J Lewis. No one knows about her or where she is.

[sunstar]

I wonder why Casey felt the need to keep paternity secret. Most single moms caught in her situation need the assistance of the sperm donor. Why the need to sheild his identity?

I agree, most want to reveal the identity for child support. It seems to go back to not knowing who the dad is and this "he was killed in a car accident" is just another story. :shrug1:

[Lilly]

I thought of that to, the thing of that is if it happened closer to the 27th when the car was ditched, and remember Jesse says heard Caylee in the background on the 25th then how come NOBODY saw Caylee after the 16th of June? Not one single person has said they saw Caylee after the 16th of June? :francis:

I'm afraid the reason might explain the shovel and dirt in the car.

[mollybrown]

I thought of that to, the thing of that is if it happened closer to the 27th when the car was ditched, and remember Jesse says heard Caylee in the background on the 25th then how come NOBODY saw Caylee after the 16th of June? Not one single person has said they saw Caylee after the 16th of June? :francis:

So the Babysitter has Caylee from the 16th till the 24th when Casey gets her back (per Jesse's date) and the Death car is found on the 27th. Kinda nails it down for me. :groan:

ETA: Unless you follow CIndy's line of thinking that SOMEONE had CINDY"S car without Caseys knowledge and Caylee died and was put in the trunk..... sheesh

[sunstar]

that would be my guess...

Definitely if she died mid-month and was moved around the time the car was abandoned, it would created a very foul odor in the car. But I can't figure out where she would have been unless it was the back yard, and why wait about 10 days to move her? But on the other hand, it explains the shovel & dirt in the car. What a puzzle!

[Isabella]

I don't think so...

And I love it...on July 15th after the 911 calls...Casey then sends out a mass email telling every that Caylee is missing...geez
OMG but I thought she was so scared and her entire family had been threatened??

And if Tony's roommate is truthful and I assume he is, why would Casey make up the father was on the way to Caylee's BD party. I think she is a total nutcase.

[Pauli]

I wonder why Casey felt the need to keep paternity secret. Most single moms caught in her situation need the assistance of the sperm donor. Why the need to sheild his identity?


maybe she doesn't know the real identity... who knows at this point.

[Lilly]

When were Cindy and George on vacation? And when was the concrete slab being poured? Maybe she had to hide her quickly, but knew she had to find a better place?

[chambord]

Anything going on at Websleuths and Topics? Being many local folks post there some interesting info gets posted.

[Trailblazer]

So the Babysitter has Caylee from the 16th till the 24th when Casey gets her back (per Jesse's date) and the Death car is found on the 27th. Kinda nails it down for me. :groan:

When did Casey tell her mother that she was going on a mini-vacation to Jacksonville? Could that have been the excuse she might have given a babysitter, so that she'd have Caylee for a week? And what babysitter?

[scout]

LE Doing a search NOW where even the family doesn't know based on the evidence found in the car.


Where didya get this info A2L!? This sounds promising!!!

[DeeJay]

WOW Caylee's dad was killed in a car accident on THE WAY TO CAYLEE"S Birthday Party.


Apparently not true. per cindy, he'd never seen Caylee.

[sunstar]

I don't know if I believe in psychics or not, but I found this site and there's a "theory" about how it might have happened that includes the shovel, trunk, etc. A possible theory that would fit :(


http://briansprediction.com/gale/Caylee%20Anthony.htm

I find this very interesting! I read down and noticed the car trunk being mentioned as transporting Caylee's body, and I also found the highlighted area is a good possibility with the lakes.

[DeeJay]

Where didya get this info A2L!? This sounds promising!!!


On Greta/FOXNEWS.

[KittyMom]

OMG but I thought she was so scared and her entire family had been threatened??

And if Tony's roommate is truthful and I assume he is, why would Casey make up the father was on the way to Caylee's BD party. I think she is a total nutcase.

I don't think it has anything to do with being nuts...its evil.

[chambord]

Cardosa and the other guest agree with me. Once formal charges are filed, Casey stays right where she is. IMO, those charges will be filed within the next week.

[Isabella]

When did Casey tell her mother that she was going on a mini-vacation to Jacksonville? Could that have been the excuse she might have given a babysitter, so that she'd have Caylee for a week? And what babysitter?
I don't think so only because Cindy said on the stand when she found out the car was towed and decided to look for Casey, she was suprised she actually found Casey at Tony's she was supposed to be in Jacksonville with Jeff Hopkins. So that would put her vacation
(imaginary) around July 15th, prob the week of or the week before, right?

[mollybrown]

Apparently not true. per cindy, he'd never seen Caylee.

Just quoting another LIE that Casey said to friends. Sorry if I made it sound as fact. :71541: to me. :tongue:

[DeeJay]

maybe she doesn't know the real identity... who knows at this point.

i've thought all along casey doesn't know who the father really is.

[sunstar]

When were Cindy and George on vacation? And when was the concrete slab being poured? Maybe she had to hide her quickly, but knew she had to find a better place?

It's beginning to sound like that's what happened. There's a gap in time in June of about 10 days between when Caylee's last seen and the car is abandoned. I'm not counting on Jesse's phone call with Casey on the 24th as being proof Caylee was alive then. Casey could've been talking to an imaginary Caylee telling her to get off the table. I just can't see where Caylee would've been for those approx. 10 days if she were alive. :shrug1:

[DeeJay]

Just quoting another LIE that Casey said to friends. Sorry if I made it sound as fact. :71541: to me. :tongue:

No, no, no, I didn't take it that way either. :tender:

[Trailblazer]

I don't think so only because Cindy said on the stand when she found out the car was towed and decided to look for Casey, she was suprised she actually found Casey at Tony's she was supposed to be in Jacksonville with Jeff Hopkins. So that would put her vacation
(imaginary) around July 15th, prob the week of or the week before, right?

You're right...so much for my theory :shrug1:

[awakening2lite]

I thought of that to, the thing of that is if it happened closer to the 27th when the car was ditched, and remember Jesse says heard Caylee in the background on the 25th then how come NOBODY saw Caylee after the 16th of June? Not one single person has said they saw Caylee after the 16th of June? :francis:

Yes to what you said.lol

24th or 25th seem closer to being plausible to me. The car was towed on the 30th, it had been parked there (estimate) 3 days making it abandoned on the 27th. However, it already had the odor with would have taken 2 or 3 days from time of death. This brings us to 24 or 25th and Jesse heard Caylee on the 25th. It could be the 25th was the last day Caylee was alive.

I can only imagine the worst as to where she was or who had her, up until the 25th.

[DeeJay]

Cardosa and the other guest agree with me. Once formal charges are filed, Casey stays right where she is. IMO, those charges will be filed within the next week.


Yep! :zm10:

didn't he also say something about cindy could get arrested as well?

[awakening2lite]

Where didya get this info A2L!? This sounds promising!!!

From the On the record reporter.

[awakening2lite]

OMG but I thought she was so scared and her entire family had been threatened??

And if Tony's roommate is truthful and I assume he is, why would Casey make up the father was on the way to Caylee's BD party. I think she is a total nutcase.

I don't think the know who the father of Caylee was. Imagine how many times that must come up and be asked when a person is first meeting Casey and Caylee or the family. I think they cooked up the answer that the father died in a car accident and that it pretty much satisfied everyone. It also left her free to pursue a new life without the new man being concerned about ex inter action with them. People do say these types of things when they don't know who the dad is.

[Claycat]

Definitely if she died mid-month and was moved around the time the car was abandoned, it would created a very foul odor in the car. But I can't figure out where she would have been unless it was the back yard, and why wait about 10 days to move her? But on the other hand, it explains the shovel & dirt in the car. What a puzzle!

I imagine she realized her parents' yard would be the first place searched when everyone finally realized Caylee was missing.

[sunstar]

24th or 25th seem closer to being plausible to me. The car was towed on the 30th, it had been parked there (estimate) 3 days making it abandoned on the 27th. However, it already had the odor with would have taken 2 or 3 days from time of death. This brings us to 24 or 25th and Jesse heard Caylee on the 25th. It could be the 25th was the last day Caylee was alive.

I can only imagine the worst as to where she was or who had her, up until the 25th.

That's what I can't put my mind around. Who had her if she was alive between the 15th & 25th, and if Casey didn't kill her, why would Casey have borrowed the shovel sometime mid-month, and why would Caylee be transported in Casey's car? :shrug1:

[chambord]

maybe she doesn't know the real identity... who knows at this point.

Definently a possibilty, but wouldn't most expectant moms, who made the decision to carry full term would want to know the genetics of such a donor, irregardles of how many sexual partners they were engaged in? Why the heck didn't Casey practise birth control?

[Isabella]

24th or 25th seem closer to being plausible to me. The car was towed on the 30th, it had been parked there (estimate) 3 days making it abandoned on the 27th. However, it already had the odor with would have taken 2 or 3 days from time of death. This brings us to 24 or 25th and Jesse heard Caylee on the 25th. It could be the 25th was the last day Caylee was alive.

I can only imagine the worst as to where she was or who had her, up until the 25th.
But if George and Cindy are telling the truth then george said Casey left home on the 16th of June, no one saw Caylee during that time, so where was Caylle between the 16th and the 25th of June?
Casey was at a Fusion patry on the 20th of June, where was Caylee then, she was staying with Tony I think.

[sunstar]

I imagine she realized her parents' yard would be the first place searched when everyone finally realized Caylee was missing.

That's the only thing that makes sense. Maybe she was in a plastic bag or something where Casey wouldn't have to actually handle her body after such a time, and that's where the dirt came from in the car trunk. Or maybe she had someone help her move Caylee? I just can't imagine it. :frown:

[awakening2lite]

It's beginning to sound like that's what happened. There's a gap in time in June of about 10 days between when Caylee's last seen and the car is abandoned. I'm not counting on Jesse's phone call with Casey on the 24th as being proof Caylee was alive then. Casey could've been talking to an imaginary Caylee telling her to get off the table. I just can't see where Caylee would've been for those approx. 10 days if she were alive. :shrug1:'


The 10 days bothers me. Unless she was in a freezer the odor would have been noticed for blocks around the area. I think you are right but I think it was the 25th when she was last alive. A couple of days in the florida heat in a truck and she would have had to get rid of the body and ditch the car.

[sunstar]

But if George and Cindy are telling the truth then george said Casey left home on the 16th of June, no one saw Caylee during that time, so where was Caylle between the 16th and the 25th of June?
Casey was at a Fusion patry on the 20th of June, where was Caylee then, she was staying with Tony I think.

That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out! The last she was seen was the 15th (Father's Day) and that also fits in with the "31 days" on the 911 call.

[Lilly]

But if George and Cindy are telling the truth then george said Casey left home on the 16th of June, no one saw Caylee during that time, so where was Caylle between the 16th and the 25th of June?
Casey was at a Fusion patry on the 20th of June, where was Caylee then, she was staying with Tony I think.

When did Amy go to PR? Could she have been staying there between those dates?

[Trailblazer]

When did Amy go to PR? Could she have been staying there between those dates?


July 8 thru the 15

[gforce]

I think that when casey decides to tell the real story. We will find out that casey wanted to go out and party. could not find a sitter. decided to give caylee some kind of drug so she would sleep. put her in the trunk of the car and went out for a night on the town. She then either forgot about her in the trunk or she gave her to much of what ever she gave her to put her to sleep. when she found caylee dead she left her there for a few days while she worked on her story( the whole time still partying like nothing was wrong) she burried her somewhere and would still today be out at the bars if her mother had not gotten involved. JMO

[sunstar]

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The 10 days bothers me. Unless she was in a freezer the odor would have been noticed for blocks around the area. I think you are right but I think it was the 25th when she was last alive. A couple of days in the florida heat in a truck and she would have had to get rid of the body and ditch the car.

So where was she for 10 days? I definitely agree about the heat and decomposition. I can't see her in the backyard for 10 days either for that reason. So did someone else actually have her for that time and then gave her back to Casey on the 24th (according to Jesse hearing Caylee in the background on his phone call) and then she was killed?

[Isabella]

I think this is another piece of the puzzle.

It's the DJ thru the reporter.

They need to go back and check the visitor log at the nursing home. Maybe the father's day was celebrated early. I also wonder why no photo of Dad anthony was taken on that day.
You make good sense, LE needs to let us know if there are logs and is the June 15th date visit accurate! lol

[Faith]

Definitely if she died mid-month and was moved around the time the car was abandoned, it would created a very foul odor in the car. But I can't figure out where she would have been unless it was the back yard, and why wait about 10 days to move her? But on the other hand, it explains the shovel & dirt in the car. What a puzzle!

Maybe Casey didn't use the car b/c the baby was in the trunk. She had Amy's car for a week in July.

[awakening2lite]

That's what I can't put my mind around. Who had her if she was alive between the 15th & 25th, and if Casey didn't kill her, why would Casey have borrowed the shovel sometime mid-month, and why would Caylee be transported in Casey's car? :shrug1:

She may have left her with someone she met at a party. Maybe she was carrying her around unconscious in the car under a blanket in the back seat with the window down. Heck she could have been anywhere and with anyone. What I just don't see a body in the florida heat for 10 days and no one noticing. Not possible. A body smells for blocks around.

[Lilly]

Maybe the shovel was just used to break in the shed and get the gas cans and not to dig up ground.

[Trailblazer]

Well I suspect that LE has the right timeline...but they aren't sharing it with us...

What we know is that she was living on and off with Tony, and at sometime with Amy...Now LE has interviewed them...they would tell them whether Caylee was with Casey or not...

So I guess...we'll just have to wait until LE decided to clue us in

[Pauli]

Maybe Casey didn't use the car b/c the baby was in the trunk. She had Amy's car for a week in July.


Why did she need to use Amy's car if she had one of her own...

[mollybrown]

Now that we know that old pizza in a trunk doesn't bring in maggots. HOW did the maggots get there, and then invaded the pizza Box/Bag and "the entire trunk" (per Cindy)?

[mollybrown]

Why did she need to use Amy's car if she had one of her own...
Free Gas and a checkbook?:0009:

[Claycat]

Here is an interesting profile calling Casey a "dark damsel".

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/id-exclusive-cr.html

[awakening2lite]

So where was she for 10 days? I definitely agree about the heat and decomposition. I can't see her in the backyard for 10 days either for that reason. So did someone else actually have her for that time and then gave her back to Casey on the 24th (according to Jesse hearing Caylee in the background on his phone call) and then she was killed?

That's what I think. She was leaving her with someone (probably anyone), maybe several people.

Do her parents have a freezer in the shed?

[Faith]

Maybe the shovel was just used to break in the shed and get the gas cans and not to dig up ground.

If that's the case why did the dogs hit in the back yard? :0009:

[gforce]

That's what I think. She was leaving her with someone (probably anyone), maybe several people.

I think if anyone had watched caylee they would have come foward by now.

[mollybrown]

If that's the case why did the dogs hit in the back yard? :0009:

The DOG(S) hitting in the back yard, really bothers me. :lex_10:

[Trailblazer]

Why did she need to use Amy's car if she had one of her own...

Because she dumped it on the 27th of June...and why did she dump it???

Something happened between June 16th and June 27th..So that timeline needs to be tightened up...

And if Jesse is correct that he heard Caylee on the 24th..then that narrows it further...

[Lilly]

If that's the case why did the dogs hit in the back yard? :0009:

Aaaack! Either someone is mistaken or info is missing to tie this all together.. it's driving me crazy!

[mollybrown]

I think if anyone had watched caylee they would have come foward by now.

That has sent my hincky meter, way into the red. NO one who has come forward, knows these people. :francis:

[sunstar]

Maybe Casey didn't use the car b/c the baby was in the trunk. She had Amy's car for a week in July.

By that time though the car had been impounded anyway.

[Faith]

Now that we know that old pizza in a trunk doesn't bring in maggots. HOW did the maggots get there, and then invaded the pizza Box/Bag and "the entire trunk" (per Cindy)?

If that's the case there had to be more than pizza back there.

[Lilly]

I believe Faith said most likely between 24-27 June.. makes the most sense to me.

[Faith]

By that time though the car had been impounded anyway.

Did she say what day she was at Blanchard park?

[mollybrown]

If that's the case there had to be more than pizza back there.

DING DING DING you win the BIG PRIZE......... :zm10:

Maggots mature within a few days.

http://whatcom.wsu.edu/ag/homehort/pest/calliphoridae.htm

Sorry to be gross. :(

[sunstar]

Because she dumped it on the 27th of June...and why did she dump it???

Something happened between June 16th and June 27th..So that timeline needs to be tightened up...

And if Jesse is correct that he heard Caylee on the 24th..then that narrows it further...

I wonder if there's anyway Casey could've staged the background noise in that phone call to make Jesse think Caylee was really there.

[awakening2lite]

I think if anyone had watched caylee they would have come foward by now.


that's a good point

[Claycat]

Quote from article:

"The hallmark of a good predator is that she constantly tells lies. If you clutter the truth with enough of what's false, no one can tell what is real," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "This is why the female offender keeps everyone guessing with deception. Keep people chasing their tails, and they don't have the time to fight you.

[sunstar]

If that's the case there had to be more than pizza back there.

Exactly!

[Faith]

I believe Faith said most likely between 24-27 June.. makes the most sense to me.

Yes, those are the dates I have pinned down. She dumped the body then the car.

The question still remains what could have happened to her that wasn't an accident?

[sunstar]

Quote from article:

"The hallmark of a good predator is that she constantly tells lies. If you clutter the truth with enough of what's false, no one can tell what is real," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "This is why the female offender keeps everyone guessing with deception. Keep people chasing their tails, and they don't have the time to fight you.

This is so true about Casey! Wow!

[awakening2lite]

I wonder if there's anyway Casey could've staged the background noise in that phone call to make Jesse think Caylee was really there.

Easy. She could have gone to a children park and called him on her cell phone. Even if she called out Caylee's name, I doubt others would have thought anything about it.

[Lilly]

Time to get to bed! Nite all..you guys are awesome!

Praying for Caylee, and answers very soon. Poor baby... she deserves so much better and to be found.

[Audie]

If I'm sitting here I can tell you all. I will let yall know when setting up the new thread next time.I thought you were doing ok before, but then I read almost every post and don't type long posts very often. jmo (if anyone else is having a problem I'll do whatever you decide, faith.)

[Audie]

Okay, maybe I am kinda dumb....

But IF Casey is telling the truth, and knows where or who has Caylee, wouldn't telling the truth...only help her? Wouldn't that get her boney butt out of jail?

What am I missing?And get her daughter back too. Sheesh.

Oh yea. She cares about herself more than Caylee.

[Faith]

DING DING DING you win the BIG PRIZE......... :zm10:

Maggots mature within a few days.

http://whatcom.wsu.edu/ag/homehort/pest/calliphoridae.htm

Sorry to be gross. :(

I looked it up earlier LOL-- there has to be moisture for maggots-- pizza will dry up fast. If maggots were back there ....well, other garbage OR-

[awakening2lite]

Quote from article:

"The hallmark of a good predator is that she constantly tells lies. If you clutter the truth with enough of what's false, no one can tell what is real," Dr. Schurman-Kauflin said. "This is why the female offender keeps everyone guessing with deception. Keep people chasing their tails, and they don't have the time to fight you.

I posted the article and many excerpts from it earlier today on the #10 thread. Dr Schurman-Kauflin has done years of work on serial killers. A few years ago she began concentrating on female killers. She teaches at many LE locations around the country. She is highly respected by her peers.

I'm glad to see you found it.

[sunstar]

Easy. She could have gone to a children park and called him on her cell phone. Even if she called out Caylee's name, I doubt others would have thought anything about it.

I was thinking something like that too, or even a recording of Caylee's voice.

[Faith]

I thought you were doing ok before, but then I read almost every post and don't type long posts very often. jmo (if anyone else is having a problem I'll do whatever you decide, faith.)

I will try to warn you guys before a new thread is started.

[sunstar]

Time to get to bed! Nite all..you guys are awesome!

Praying for Caylee, and answers very soon. Poor baby... she deserves so much better and to be found.

Have a good night! :happy0207: And yes, always praying for Caylee at least if she's no longer here, to have a decent burial and justice!

[Faith]

Nite Lilly :happy0207:

[Audie]

:blondblush113268230 My threads go up to page 100. :smiley_aasg:You prob have your threads set to 10 posts per page, jute.

[awakening2lite]

That's the only thing that makes sense. Maybe she was in a plastic bag or something where Casey wouldn't have to actually handle her body after such a time, and that's where the dirt came from in the car trunk. Or maybe she had someone help her move Caylee? I just can't imagine it. :frown:

If she was kept in plastic, maybe she could have contained the odor for a short while, but the gases would have expanded the bag and put stress on it.

If she used the shovel to break into the storage shed at her parents home and she stole the cans she could have filled them with water, weighted her down and put her into a body of water.

Some dirt from the shovel may have transfered to the trunk if she dragged it across the lawn.

[awakening2lite]

Time to get to bed! Nite all..you guys are awesome!

Praying for Caylee, and answers very soon. Poor baby... she deserves so much better and to be found.

Good night, Lilly :happy0207:

See you tomorrow!