Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #15

[Faith]

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Information Threads (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146)
Caylee discussion thread #1 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702)
Caylee discussion thread #2 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6849)
Caylee discussion thread #3 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6866)
Caylee discussion thread #4 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6888)
Caylee discussion thread #5 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6912)
Caylee discussion thread #6 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6927)
Caylee discussion thread #7 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6947)
Caylee discussion thread #8 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6978)
Caylee discussion thread #9 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7002)
Caylee discussion thread #10 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7025)
Caylee discussion thread #11 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7047)
Caylee discussion thread #12 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7059)
Caylee discussion thread #13 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7079)
Caylee discussion Thread #14 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7101)

[sunstar]

Thanks Faith! :kissyface4: o/t but I'm still watching Greta and this Rockefeller case is sure getting mysterious!

[DeeJay]

:howdy:

Methinks I'm outta words. :doh:

[sunstar]

:howdy:

Methinks I'm outta words. :doh:

I can see parents wanting to defend their daughter, but this is beyond ridiculous ~ they're making idiots of themselves with these new stories!

[Isabella]

:howdy:

Methinks I'm outta words. :doh:
I may need to increase my blood pressure meds, these people make my blood boil. :madranting94dp:

[Xmygrits]

Brought over from closed thread.

Harmony: "We should make a thread listing all the lies and inconsistencies."

I don't think there is enough cyberspace available for all the lies. Seriously, I can't even begin to keep count or keep them straight.

[awakening2lite]

I know I can't have been the only one to catch Cindy on Greta say, "lying is not a crime".

:67302:

I wonder if she is puzzled by the second charge against Casey. :67302:


These people are the biggest liars I have ever, ever seen.

[mollybrown]

Well carp I lost ANOTHER pulitzer BLOG LOL

Clark Rockafeller's finger prints linked to a murder in CA. His real name is Chris Something and we will be able to read more at The Boston Globe. (I think that's what I typed before) LOL

[Lilly]

I may need to increase my blood pressure meds, these people make my blood boil. :madranting94dp:

Me too..I'm gonna go to bed. Night all! C'ya tomorrow..let's hope it holds good news. Caylee :1222423:

[Heidi J.]

Harmony:We should make a thread listing all the lies and inconsistencies.

Harm, there can not possibly enough bandwidth to support a thread like that!:67302:

[gramvof14]

Well I am off to bed have a good night everyone:happy0207::love0085:
I will pray that Caylee will be home tomorrow i know its not likely but i will pray anyway.:love0085::happy0207:

[Xmygrits]

Oh and thanks Faith!!!

[sunstar]

Well carp I lost ANOTHER pulitzer BLOG LOL

Clark Rockafeller's finger prints linked to a murder in CA. His real name is Chris Something and we will be able to read more at The Boston Globe. (I think that's what I typed before) LOL

I'm not even going to try to get started on following that case!! :groan:

[Isabella]

Me too..I'm gonna go to bed. Night all! C'ya tomorrow..let's hope it holds good news. Caylee :1222423:
NN Lilly and Gram! :smile:

[DeeJay]

If you couldn't see Greta tonight, perhaps some kind soul will put it on youtube.

Ppl have been good about doing that in this case.
Also, Greta will be replayed at 10:00 PDT.

[sunstar]

Well I am off to bed have a good night everyone:happy0207::love0085:
I will pray that Caylee will be home tomorrow i know its not likely but i will pray anyway.:love0085::happy0207:

Just remember George said she'd be home for her birthday on Saturday!! :biggrin: Have a good night gram! :love0081: :happy0207:

eta ~ I'm sure there will be some breaking news this weekend since I want to watch the Olympics! LOL

[mollybrown]

Harm, there can not possibly enough bandwidth to support a thread like that!:67302:

I agree, these people make me question my sanity. IIRC doesn't apply here, because these people make me want to get my hearing checked. :groan:

[annalyzer]

Well I am off to bed have a good night everyone:happy0207::love0085:
I will pray that Caylee will be home tomorrow i know its not likely but i will pray anyway.:love0085::happy0207:


Nite Lilly and gram :kissyface4:

[Heidi J.]

I can see parents wanting to defend their daughter, but this is beyond ridiculous ~ they're making idiots of themselves with these new stories!

I realize at first it was just a defense mechanism that kicked in.. But now they are just making themselves look like azzes!
:groan:

[awakening2lite]

I'm off, too.

Good night everyone!

I so enjoy posting with you!


:happy0207:

[Faith]

Thanks Faith! :kissyface4: o/t but I'm still watching Greta and this Rockefeller case is sure getting mysterious!

I know, another weird one!!

[Faith]

I may need to increase my blood pressure meds, these people make my blood boil. :madranting94dp:

I wonder if LE will call them back to the station tomorrow? George is out of his mind!!

[Heidi J.]

Boy.. I can really clear a room..:happy0158:
J/K good nite all!! I have not been on all day, but it doesn't look like I missed much..:groan:

[scout]

... sounds like I missed somethin' good!!! :(

[Xmygrits]

Local news is covering the story about the threats made to the Anthony's. Several threats have been received at their home. Letters, extortion letters, threatening phone calls. Cindy say's the extortion letter was forwarded to LE, HOWEVER, a spokesperson for OCSO/LE is saying they know nothing of that letter.

Cindy is also complaining about old friends turning on them...Cindy say's "People can hate me, they can continue to send me hate mail, but I am just going to ask them, you know, you never know, I am fifty years old and I never would have dreamed I would be walking and living this nightmare right now".

Awwwww, poor lady. It's so sad this happened to her. (major sarcasm)

[sunstar]

I'm off, too.

Good night everyone!

I so enjoy posting with you!


:happy0207:

Good night a2l! :happy0207: :love0081:

[Xmygrits]

NN A2L-same here.

I'm headed to bed to. I can't handle one more lie tonight, so I'm going to dream about MY MARK!

Nite all.

[scout]

Thank XMyGrits! I'll have a look around some of the local news station links and check it out!

[sunstar]

I wonder if LE will call them back to the station tomorrow? George is out of his mind!!

Seriously since the FBI is involved and this really doesn't sound like a kidnapping could they bring charges for filing a false report? :shrug1:

[sunstar]

NN A2L-same here.

I'm headed to bed to. I can't handle one more lie tonight, so I'm going to dream about MY MARK!

Nite all.

:happy0207: sweet dreams!!! :girl_haha:

[Pauli]

Local news is covering the story about the threats made to the Anthony's. Several threats have been received at their home. Letters, extortion letters, threatening phone calls. Cindy say's the extortion letter was forwarded to LE, HOWEVER, a spokesperson for OCSO/LE is saying they know nothing of that letter.

Cindy is also complaining about old friends turning on them...Cindy say's "People can hate me, they can continue to send me hate mail, but I am just going to ask them, you know, you never know, I am fifty years old and I never would have dreamed I would be walking and living this nightmare right now".

Awwwww, poor lady. It's so sad this happened to her. (major sarcasm)


I wouldn't doubt a bit that they are getting hate mail and phone calls..

[Faith]

Nite to all that's leaving- cya tomorrow :happy0207:

[Pandabear]

I don't post much, but I do read, and agree with, everything you guys post about this case. It would honestly be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Every time I watch the video of Cindy telling everyone to get off their azzes and find her granddaughter, I want to scream and shake the stuffing out of her.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of the Anthony house tonight and just listen to these people talk about what lies they will tell tomorrow. I pray that charges are brought against both George and Cindy for the lies they've told LE and for the lies told under oath on that witness stand. If enough pressure is put on them, maybe, just maybe one of them, or Lee, will crack and tell the truth about this baby.

:1222423: Caylee, you are in my thoughts and prayers sweet baby.

ETA I dreamed about Caylee again last night. In my dream, Casey was partying and was so drunk she forgot where she left the baby.

[sunstar]

I don't post much, but I do read, and agree with, everything you guys post about this case. It would honestly be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Every time I watch the video of Cindy telling everyone to get off their azzes and find her granddaughter, I want to scream and shake the stuffing out of her.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of the Anthony house tonight and just listen to these people talk about what lies they will tell tomorrow. I pray that charges are brought against both George and Cindy for the lies they've told LE and for the lies told under oath on that witness stand. If enough pressure is put on them, maybe, just maybe one of them, or Lee, will crack and tell the truth about this baby.

:1222423: Caylee, you are in my thoughts and prayers sweet baby.

ETA I dreamed about Caylee again last night. In my dream, Casey was partying and was so drunk she forgot where she left the baby.
It does seem like they must be figuring out a new story every day. I too dream that Caylee is safe with somebody who thought they could love her and take better care of her than Caylee or her family, like maybe her father's family. Sadly though I don't think that's where she is, but instead she's safe in Heaven. :smile:

[sunstar]

Have a good night everybody! :happy0207:

[annalyzer]

Have a good night everybody! :happy0207:
Nite Star :kissyface4:

[Isabella]

I was actually surprised to learn that Casey didn't even leave for 'work' until 1 pm, did she work full time?
Seems odd to me that if she did Cindy or George wouldn't ever pick Caylee up on their way home from work from any sitter and go ahead and feed her and give a a bath etc..Obviously George was home that day (the 16th) why couldn't he watch Caylee?

[Isabella]

Have a good night everybody! :happy0207:
NN Sunstar :smile:

[annalyzer]

I was actually surprised to learn that Casey didn't even leave for 'work' until 1 pm, did she work full time?
Seems odd to me that if she did Cindy or George wouldn't ever pick Caylee up on their way home from work from any sitter and go ahead and feed her and give a a bath etc..Obviously Geaorge was home that day (the 16th) why couldn't he watch Caylee?
That is really strange.

[chambord]

I hope Cindy keeps blabbing about Caylee's dad. In the beginning she couldn't recal his name. Tonight she tells us he had moved to another state and had started a family. By the end of the week she will inform us he is in politics and is running for an electictive office. By next week, he'll be a presendential candididate, and then we will all know why Casey is sitting in jail for lying. She is protecting our homeland security.

[KittyMom]

I just got caught up. Man! What a let down. I thought Greta would've found something interesting today.

[Faith]

Good Night all-- :happy0207:

[Claycat]

Y'all were going so ape over Mark, I had to don a Jack Sparrow avatar in self defense. LOL!

[P.I.Jane]

Y'all were going so ape over Mark, I had to don a Jack Sparrow avatar in self defense. LOL!

Hi Claycat. Well, I hate to say it, but neither Jack Sparrow or Mark Furman hold a candle to my hottie! :67302::67302:

[P.I.Jane]

OK... It took me a couple hours to catch up on all the reading. I have so many comments I don't know how to do it!

I guess I'll just go quote them all. Not sure if that's cool or not, but hey...you will get to see my pretty in pink babe all that much more! Whooo Hoooo!!

:s1gyahoo:

[Pauli]

You can quote a bunch of them at one time.... click on http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/images/styles/default/buttons/multiquote_off.gif (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=326763) and then when you get ready click the reply button and it will list all the posts you have checked...

[P.I.Jane]

You can quote a bunch of them at one time.... click on http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/images/styles/default/buttons/multiquote_off.gif (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=326763) and then when you get ready click the reply button and it will list all the posts you have checked...

Thank you! Now... if only I can follow directions! :blondblush113268230

[Polonius]

I know I can't have been the only one to catch Cindy on Greta say, "lying is not a crime".

:67302:

I wonder if she is puzzled by the second charge against Casey. :67302:


These people are the biggest liars I have ever, ever seen.


No, I heard this too.

I'm reading up here every day but not posting.

I just don't understand the parents' pycho-babbling. I'm frustrated by the law even though I'm an upright citizen who pays her taxes and generally accepts the status quo. Something very dark inside me wants to drag this Casey out of her cell and and violate all her rights and just beat the snot out of her until the truth comes out.

God forgive me for thinking this way, but I do.

[KittyMom]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HFTM

Lite a candle for Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/images/bigcandle_flame.gif

[KittyMom]

No, I heard this too.

I'm reading up here every day but not posting.

I just don't understand the parents' pycho-babbling. I'm frustrated by the law even though I'm an upright citizen who pays her taxes and generally accepts the status quo. Something very dark inside me wants to drag this Casey out of her cell and and violate all her rights and just beat the snot out of her until the truth comes out.

God forgive me for thinking this way, but I do.

You aren't alone. Many of us feel just the same.

[P.I.Jane]

No, I heard this too.

I'm reading up here every day but not posting.

I just don't understand the parents' pycho-babbling. I'm frustrated by the law even though I'm an upright citizen who pays her taxes and generally accepts the status quo. Something very dark inside me wants to drag this Casey out of her cell and and violate all her rights and just beat the snot out of her until the truth comes out.

God forgive me for thinking this way, but I do.


I agree with you 100%. Glad to have you here!

[P.I.Jane]

Ok... I decided just to shorten all the comments I had since most were from the last thread and couldn't be quoted. So here they are.


Ditto.

I couldn't agree more.

I see dead people.

My dog does that too!

What the heck are you talking about Cindy? :smiley_aasg:

Eeewwwww!

If it isn't one thing, it's another.

:71526:

Good night. :0012:

[Claycat]

Hi Claycat. Well, I hate to say it, but neither Jack Sparrow or Mark Furman hold a candle to my hottie! :67302::67302:

:girl_haha: :girl_haha: :girl_haha:

[Claycat]

Aug. 5, 2008

First Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIu7Ens4WIo

Second Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMDQzXM4zU

Third Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIsJhP2kvc

[Claycat]

Aug. 5

Nancy Grace 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuNSniH-i8k

NG 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOgELYMlXGo

NG 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXIbDr0UHrE


These were the only ones posted on youtube. Maybe the third one dealt with something else?

Nancy Grace said there were cadaver dogs searching a wooded area behind a nearby elementary school based on a tip, but they did not find anything.

She also said that they had an unconfirmed report that the DNA evidence from the car trunk was back.

[nicky]

Clay, I just love your av and the man. Sorry I had to leave so abrubtly last night. Hubby came home and he thinks I'm getting obssesed with the case, he worries it will make my depression worse. But I like beig in here and trying to toss out theories and find facts that might help. If you didn't have to study math and chemistry, I would love to be CSI. I read enough by P Cromwell, etc that I can catch somethings. I would love to know her take on this case.

[nicky]

Do you guys remember Lee saying we could figure out who the Dad was....Casey got pregnant in November, and the guy died in another state. When did they move from Ohio? He also said the guy was around Casey's age. Wonder if he was a friend from Ohio, or a friend from Florida that moved. I also remember someone, possibly Padillo saying the father died in a wreck in South Carolina.

[annalyzer]

Aug. 5, 2008

First Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIu7Ens4WIo

Second Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMDQzXM4zU

Third Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIsJhP2kvc

Thank you Claycat! :love0085:

[Emyo]

Do you guys remember Lee saying we could figure out who the Dad was....Casey got pregnant in November, and the guy died in another state. When did they move from Ohio? He also said the guy was around Casey's age. Wonder if he was a friend from Ohio, or a friend from Florida that moved. I also remember someone, possibly Padillo saying the father died in a wreck in South Carolina.

This is what I thought. Maybe the "father" joined the military after highschool and went to basic training in (I thought I heard (North) Carolina. Then I thought :lex_10: don't even go there, this family makes stuff up as they go along.

[Pandabear]

I think that Casey doesn't really know who the father of Caylee is. I keep thinking about that picture of her passed out in the car and I think, the father could be most anyone. Is that terrible of me?

She's lied about so much, I can't imagine it bothering her one tiny bit to lie about the father of her child. All they have is her word, and that's not worth squat.

[nicky]

This is what I thought. Maybe the "father" joined the military after highschool and went to basic training in (I thought I heard (North) Carolina. Then I thought :lex_10: don't even go there, this family makes stuff up as they go along.

If he died in SC, that's where alot of Marines do basic training, and isn't there a picture of a guy in uniform? I don't know if she knows or not. It just got me to thinking, because this is the first time I heard Lee say something like that and that the news could probably figure it out. Strange is nt the word for this family.

[nicky]

Are there any PC sceduled for today or new tapes going to be released? I don't want to go to work today....lol

[mollybrown]

i hope cindy keeps blabbing about caylee's dad. In the beginning she couldn't recal his name. Tonight she tells us he had moved to another state and had started a family. By the end of the week she will inform us he is in politics and is running for an electictive office. By next week, he'll be a presendential candididate, and then we will all know why casey is sitting in jail for lying. She is protecting our homeland security.

:67302::67302::67302:

[Claycat]

Thank you Claycat! :love0085:

You're welcome!

[Faith]

y'all were going so ape over mark, i had to don a jack sparrow avatar in self defense. Lol!

omg :67302::67302::67302:

[Faith]

I agree with you 100%. Glad to have you here!

you make me spit my coffee :67302::67302:

[Faith]

Aug. 5, 2008

First Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIu7Ens4WIo

Second Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMDQzXM4zU

Third Greta OTR video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIsJhP2kvc

Thank you CC for posting Greta & NG videos- :love0085:


GM all- :happy0207:

[Claycat]

Thank you CC for posting Greta & NG videos- :love0085:


GM all- :happy0207:

You're welcome! Good morning!

[Grande]

<Snipped>

Baby Sitter Remains Mystery

Deputies are still trying to figure out exactly when Caylee vanished and are not ruling out that her mother, Casey, may have posed as the mystery baby sitter no one can find.

Casey Anthony maintains the last time she saw her daughter was the day she dropped her off with a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez at the Sawgrass Apartments in Orlando.

According to the original arrest report from July 15, someone by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez looked at an apartment on April 17, 2008.

Local 6 has confirmed with apartment managers that the incident didn't happen in April but on June 17.

The date is important because Caylee was last seen two days before on June 15, Local 6's Lauren Rowe said.

Sawgrass managers said on June 17, someone came to inquire about an apartment.

Investigators said the person filled-out a guest card using the name Zenaida Gonzalez and the person who wrote it had sloppy handwriting.

Someone misread the date when filing out an original arrest record, Local 6 reported.

Sources told Local 6 that when apartment managers tried to follow up with the woman after June 25, the phone number she gave was no longer valid.

And the apartment where Anthony said she left Caylee had been vacant for about six months, Local 6 has learned.

Investigators said they located a woman named Zenaida Gonzales but she said she'd never heard of Caylee or Casey.

http://www.local6.com/news/17108143/detail.html

[scout]

.. good morning all!:happy0207:

[scout]

<Snipped>

Baby Sitter Remains Mystery

Deputies are still trying to figure out exactly when Caylee vanished and are not ruling out that her mother, Casey, may have posed as the mystery baby sitter no one can find.

Casey Anthony maintains the last time she saw her daughter was the day she dropped her off with a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez at the Sawgrass Apartments in Orlando.

According to the original arrest report from July 15, someone by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez looked at an apartment on April 17, 2008.

Local 6 has confirmed with apartment managers that the incident didn't happen in April but on June 17.


http://www.local6.com/news/17108143/detail.html

So.. if I understand *this* correctly they are saying that Casey herself.. filled out that card at the apartments.. right?

[Pandabear]

OMG Grande! Thanks for posting that.

I'll bet this is all part of Casey's cover up plan. Good grief this just gets more bizarre every day! :boredom:


Could the phone number that was no longer working be the Blackjack that Casey says she lost?

[Grande]

Darnit, I have to step out momentarily ya'll. Be back shortly.

Hope everyone's having a good morning!

[Trailblazer]

<Snipped>

Baby Sitter Remains Mystery

Deputies are still trying to figure out exactly when Caylee vanished and are not ruling out that her mother, Casey, may have posed as the mystery baby sitter no one can find.

Casey Anthony maintains the last time she saw her daughter was the day she dropped her off with a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez at the Sawgrass Apartments in Orlando.

According to the original arrest report from July 15, someone by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez looked at an apartment on April 17, 2008.

Local 6 has confirmed with apartment managers that the incident didn't happen in April but on June 17.

The date is important because Caylee was last seen two days before on June 15, Local 6's Lauren Rowe said.

Sawgrass managers said on June 17, someone came to inquire about an apartment.

Investigators said the person filled-out a guest card using the name Zenaida Gonzalez and the person who wrote it had sloppy handwriting.

Someone misread the date when filing out an original arrest record, Local 6 reported.

Sources told Local 6 that when apartment managers tried to follow up with the woman after June 25, the phone number she gave was no longer valid.
And the apartment where Anthony said she left Caylee had been vacant for about six months, Local 6 has learned.

Investigators said they located a woman named Zenaida Gonzales but she said she'd never heard of Caylee or Casey.

http://www.local6.com/news/17108143/detail.html


Wow...I never thought of that...but it could be...Casey pretending she was Zanaida and trying to rent an apartment under that name....

[Trailblazer]

Next thought on that...wouldn't the apt. manager be able to recognize a photo of Casey as to the one that might have posed as Zanaida??? Or remember if that person showed up with a small toddler?

[SavannahStar]

Wow...I never thought of that...but it could be...Casey pretending she was Zanaida and trying to rent an apartment under that name....

Interesting.

Mornin' peeps! :happy0207:

[scout]

WOW,WOW, WOW! I *knew* this was comin'! I just KNEW it! Cindy is now saying that Casey did not drop that car off at the Amscot!! But we have Tony that can verify that she called to come and pick her up from there.. RIGHT?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../05/ng.01.html

EXCERPT from NG show:



GRACE: The search for Caylee.

ANTHONY: All right. Here`s the thing. Your expert witness, who has some, you know -- some experience in this doesn`t have the exact experience that I have. And I -- you know, I understand that he has a perspective that a lot of people don`t have. But to compare Casey to O.J. Simpson, that she had no way out.

Casey had a way out if she wanted to not be a mom anymore. Casey lived in a loving family and so did Caylee. Casey knew that any time she had any opportunity -- and obviously if you guys have photographs of her over the last few years going out and enjoying her life -- you know, enjoying life as a 22-year-old and a 20-year-old and a 21-year-old, and a 19-year-old normally would, she had that opportunity.

So someone needs to step back for a minute and think what changed? What would make sense? Well, what we`ve been saying all along that someone took her daughter. Casey has not an irresponsible mother. She did not leave her car. She`s not embarrassed. I mean to say that it`s an embarrassment that she`s trying to sit in jail to cover up, you know, to think about a cover-up for an embarrassment?

Casey`s a mom that puts an extra key in her pocket every time she takes her daughter in the car because she`s afraid if she tries to grab too many things and she leaves her purse she doesn`t want to lock the car and not have a key that she can get in there and get her purse back out or to take care of her daughter.

[protectkidz]

Next thought on that...wouldn't the apt. manager be able to recognize a photo of Casey as to the one that might have posed as Zanaida??? Or remember if that person showed up with a small toddler?

should be able to remember better a June showing than a April showing!

good morning everyone!

[KittyMom]

Cindy doesn't want to face the fact that Casey hated her enough to make sure that Caylee was never raised by Cindy. Casey and Cindy are just alike...its all about them and making other people the enemy to justify their own actions. If Cindy ever wants to get the truth out of Casey she's going to have to make her mad enough to throw the truth in Cindy's face.

[KittyMom]

oops...forgot...

Good Morning!!!


Don't forget to lite a candle for Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HFTM

[Xmygrits]

should be able to remember better a June showing than a April showing!

good morning everyone!

:0012: ya'll!

I agree. I wonder if who ever "showed" the apt did in fact recall what "Zenaida" looked like and the authorities are not saying? I wish hope pray. The weird thing is, Casey does not look hispanic and to use such an unusual name is nuts too.

Man, this pot of lies is about to boil over.

[Claycat]

Next thought on that...wouldn't the apt. manager be able to recognize a photo of Casey as to the one that might have posed as Zanaida??? Or remember if that person showed up with a small toddler?

Either that, or Caylee was already dead by that point, and Casey had to come up with a fictitious babysitter.

Here's another possibility as well. Casey may have been the one that stole the real Zenaida's computers on the 9th and was trying to steal her identity.

[Xmygrits]

oops...forgot...

Good Morning!!!


Don't forget to lite a candle for Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HFTM

:howdy: Good mornin KM!

[KittyMom]

Either that, or Caylee was already dead by that point, and Casey had to come up with a fictitious babysitter.

Here's another possibility as well. Casey may have been the one that stole the real Zenaida's computers on the 9th and was trying to steal her identity.

I wonder if that Zenaida has had anyone attempt an id theft...credit cards, bank loans, etc

[Claycat]

:0012: ya'll!

I agree. I wonder if who ever "showed" the apt did in fact recall what "Zenaida" looked like and the authorities are not saying? I wish hope pray. The weird thing is, Casey does not look hispanic and to use such an unusual name is nuts too.

Man, this pot of lies is about to boil over.

I'm assuming Zenaida is a Cuban name. I grew up with Hispanic people in El Paso, and I never heard the name Zenaida before. One of the few Cubans I have known had lighter hair and skin than Casey.

[protectkidz]

you are all raising good questions.

Funny how the Zanaida thing is coming back up.

I guess its because of the June 17th date being revealed as the correct date?

[protectkidz]

well, she could've picked the name out from her graduating class - there was a girl named Zenaida.

And there were Gonzalezs and Fernandezs too.

[protectkidz]

have we heard from our gulf coast friends? wondering how they weathered the storm?

[Audie]

Hi Claycat. Well, I hate to say it, but neither Jack Sparrow or Mark Furman hold a candle to my hottie! :67302::67302:HEY!! where'd you get that pic of me?

[Claycat]

Oh, KittyMom, I read one of your candle messages that made me sob!

:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[KittyMom]

HEY!! where'd you get that pic of me?

Morning Audie! How was the storm?

[Claudia]

Y'all were going so ape over Mark, I had to don a Jack Sparrow avatar in self defense. LOL!

Now that's what I'm talking about! Yummy!!! :kissyface4:

[Claudia]

Hi Claycat. Well, I hate to say it, but neither Jack Sparrow or Mark Furman hold a candle to my hottie! :67302::67302:

Ummm.... okayyy. :blondblush113268230




:67302:

[P.I.Jane]

Good Morning all! I can see it's going to be another monkey butt day. But mine is going to come from finishing laying a floor in one of my bedrooms...all by my little self too!

I know, I know, not only am I amazingly beautiful and intellient (LOL!) I'm foolish enough to think that when I'm done I'll be able to get out of bed without screaming in pain!

Speaking of pain...Didn't see Cindy anywhere on the news this morning! There is a God after all!!!! :67302:

Thanks everyone for being so great in posting the links and articles. You guys are awesome. Two thumb up!
:happy0158:

[Xmygrits]

well, she could've picked the name out from her graduating class - there was a girl named Zenaida.

And there were Gonzalezs and Fernandezs too.

I just asked some of my Spanish friends here at work and they stated Zenaida is a very popular Puerto Rican name. There are many Puerto Rican students that attend Colonial High School as well so you may be right!

[KittyMom]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/6/anthony_family_looks_for_2_assistants.html

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:23:31 AM
ORLANDO -- The Anthony family is now looking for two personal assistants in their search for Caylee.

The job has some stiff qualifications.




:67302:

[Audie]

you are all raising good questions.

Funny how the Zanaida thing is coming back up.

I guess its because of the June 17th date being revealed as the correct date?June 17? What happened on that date? I'm totally :francis: after yesterday.

[P.I.Jane]

HEY!! where'd you get that pic of me?

You thought your secret was safe, you closet cross dresser you! :67302:

[P.I.Jane]

June 17? What happened on that date? I'm totally :francis: after yesterday.


June 17th is when Zanny supposedly filled out a guest card at the apartment complex where Casey said she dropped Caylee off.

[P.I.Jane]

Ummm.... okayyy. :blondblush113268230




:67302:

He has a twin if your are interested.

[Xmygrits]

June 17th is when Zanny supposedly filled out a guest card at the apartment complex where Casey said she dropped Caylee off.

Also 2 day's after Father's Day, when Caylee was last seen.

[Audie]

have we heard from our gulf coast friends? wondering how they weathered the storm?Thanks for asking, pk. Just a nice all day medium rain here (about an inch or two). No big wind. Not even a lawn chair tipped over. There was some flooding and wind damage in Houston and the coast. No injuries that I heard.

About the gas cans. Didn't we just hear that a neighbor took them? Or was that a media screwup?

[Grande]

<Snipped>

George Anthony, Cindy's husband and grandfather of missing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony, said late Tuesday night that the gas cans stolen from his shed were taken by his daughter, Casey.

Speaking to Greta Van Susteren on FOX News Tuesday, night Anthony said that he found the missing cans in the back of Casey’s car. The cans were seized earlier in the week by investigators as evidence.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7146828&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Xmygrits]

Thanks for asking, pk. Just a nice all day medium rain here (about an inch or two). No big wind. Not even a lawn chair tipped over. There was some flooding and wind damage in Houston and the coast. No injuries that I heard.

About the gas cans. Didn't we just hear that a neighbor took them? Or was that a media screwup?

That was what the Anthony family said, now George admitted last night on Greta that Casey took the gas cans and that he knew this the same day as he filed the police report of them being "stolen".:rolleye0001:

[protectkidz]

these parents have no compunction about calling the cops on their kid.

They must've been at the end of their rope.

[P.I.Jane]

Also 2 day's after Father's Day, when Caylee was last seen.

Exactly, which makes you think, if the speculation that it could have actually been Casey that posed as Zanny filling out that card, then there was already a plan in place and something probably happened to Caylee on the 15th, 16th or 17th. Just a thought.

[KittyMom]

Thanks for asking, pk. Just a nice all day medium rain here (about an inch or two). No big wind. Not even a lawn chair tipped over. There was some flooding and wind damage in Houston and the coast. No injuries that I heard.

About the gas cans. Didn't we just hear that a neighbor took them? Or was that a media screwup?

Glad you made it thru with no damage. :0012:

[Claudia]

He has a twin if your are interested.

Great offer, but I have decided to swear off men. Thanks anyway. :71526:

[Xmygrits]

Exactly, which makes you think, if the speculation that it could have actually been Casey that posed as Zanny filling out that card, then there was already a plan in place and something probably happened to Caylee on the 15th, 16th or 17th. Just a thought.

I'm now wondering if something happened between Casey and Cindy on Fathers day. A big fight that they are not talking about? According to Cindy's myspace blog, there was some pretty sizable jealousy issues between her and Casey over Caylee. What date did Cindy write that blog, does anyone recall?

[Audie]

Morning Audie! How was the storm?I've seen worse thunderstorms roll thru here. I think Ed was downgraded to a depression by the time it got to me. I lucked out this time. I didn't know these TS/hurricanes can form right off the gulf coast. Doesn't give you much time.

Thanks for posting the Candle site. I lit one. I should light one for everday that Caylee has been missing.

For anyone:
So, now that that formal charges have been filed, I'm assuming the 30 or 40 day time limit is moot. Is that right?

[KittyMom]

I'm now wondering if something happened between Casey and Cindy on Fathers day. A big fight that they are not talking about? According to Cindy's myspace blog, there was some pretty sizable jealousy issues between her and Casey over Caylee. What date did Cindy write that blog, does anyone recall?

July 3rd ???

[Harmony]

I'm now wondering if something happened between Casey and Cindy on Fathers day. A big fight that they are not talking about? According to Cindy's myspace blog, there was some pretty sizable jealousy issues between her and Casey over Caylee. What date did Cindy write that blog, does anyone recall?

Good morning All!

Xmy the blog was written July 3rd.

[protectkidz]

Thanks for asking, pk. Just a nice all day medium rain here (about an inch or two). No big wind. Not even a lawn chair tipped over. There was some flooding and wind damage in Houston and the coast. No injuries that I heard.

About the gas cans. Didn't we just hear that a neighbor took them? Or was that a media screwup?

good to hear, Audie :happy0207:

[Xmygrits]

Good morning All!

Xmy the blog was written July 3rd.

Thanks.

Hmmm, enough time to smolder and get worried over a huge fight and not seeing Caylee for 17 days.

[Harmony]

Latest article from Fox Orlando- recap of yesterday



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7146828&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Xmygrits]

July 3rd ???

I think this new timeline is very interesting.

I know some people think Casey is quite intelligent, but I am having a hard time buying that she is smart enough to have planned this out in such a detailed way.

[KittyMom]

Thanks.

Hmmm, enough time to smolder and get worried over a huge fight and not seeing Caylee for 17 days.

Cindy was smart enough to know that Casey probably had party plans for the 4th and expected to have Caylee for the weekend.

[P.I.Jane]

That was what the Anthony family said, now George admitted last night on Greta that Casey took the gas cans and that he knew this the same day as he filed the police report of them being "stolen".:rolleye0001:


Ya know, the numerous inconsistencies in their stories not only make them look unbelievably ignorant, they are insulting the intelligence of LE and everyone else! :groan:

[Grande]

I think this new timeline is very interesting.

I know some people think Casey is quite intelligent, but I am having a hard time buying that she is smart enough to have planned this out in such a detailed way.

I tend to agree.

[Xmygrits]

Cindy was smart enough to know that Casey probably had party plans for the 4th and expected to have Caylee for the weekend.

Well if there was a fight on Fathers day and the threat of, "fine, you won't see your granddaughter again" was thrown out there but perhaps not entirely believed by Cindy, by July 3rd it was starting to sink it that Casey ment it? Just another thought. I've had tons of those over this case!

[Xmygrits]

Ya know, the numerous inconsistencies in their stories not only make them look unbelievably ignorant, they are insulting the intelligence of LE and everyone else! :groan:

Exsmackly! :groan: and :groan:again!

[scout]

I think this new timeline is very interesting.

I know some people think Casey is quite intelligent, but I am having a hard time buying that she is smart enough to have planned this out in such a detailed way.

I AGREE! Its really quite involved! I just don't think shes capable of putting something like this together!

[Claudia]

Well if there was a fight on Fathers day and the threat of, "fine, you won't see your granddaughter again" was thrown out there but perhaps not entirely believed by Cindy, by July 3rd it was starting to sink it that Casey ment it? Just another thought. I've had tons of those over this case!

Tell me about it. I've had second, third, fourth & fifth thoughts. I have never seen a case with so many twists & turns.

[Xmygrits]

Great offer, but I have decided to swear off men. Thanks anyway. :71526:

OH MY EYES MY EYES!

I'm ruined now.

[scout]

Heres something.. thinking out loud here:


*On Greta.. George mentions that on June 24th is when he last saw Casey. Thats ALSO when he discovers the gas cans in the trunk of the car.

-- Knowing what we now know about this freakazoid family.. do we think that George would have mentioned if there were a horrible smell in the trunk at that time?

Lets say there wasn't a smell in the trunk on the 24th..


THEN...
According to the timeline... the car is abandoned:

JUNE 27
*On or about this date an abandoned car is noticed in the parking lot of the Amscot store.


Could June 24th- June 27th be an approximate time as to when something was done with Caylee?

[scout]

... whats absolutely NERVE WRACKING to me is that EVERYTHING hinges on the results from that trunk! EVERYTHING!!!

[KittyMom]

Well if there was a fight on Fathers day and the threat of, "fine, you won't see your granddaughter again" was thrown out there but perhaps not entirely believed by Cindy, by July 3rd it was starting to sink it that Casey ment it? Just another thought. I've had tons of those over this case!

I was thinking that Cindy may've contacted Casey asking about keeping Caylee and Casey blew her off. Cindy sits around thinking about the past few weeks and decides to blog about it.

[Harmony]

I was thinking that Cindy may've contacted Casey asking about keeping Caylee and Casey blew her off. Cindy sits around thinking about the past few weeks and decides to blog about it.

That is exactly how I see it!

[protectkidz]

Heres something.. thinking out loud here:


*On Greta.. George mentions that on June 24th is when he last saw Casey. Thats ALSO when he discovers the gas cans in the trunk of the car.

-- Knowing what we now know about this freakazoid family.. do we think that George would have mentioned if there were a horrible smell in the trunk at that time?

Lets say there wasn't a smell in the trunk on the 24th..


THEN...
According to the timeline... the car is abandoned:

JUNE 27
*On or about this date an abandoned car is noticed in the parking lot of the Amscot store.


Could June 24th- June 27th be an approximate time as to when something was done with Caylee?

that's the same timeline we've always had, isn't it?

But before it was based on Jesse's phone call.

Now we can base it on the gas cans too.

[Emyo]

Heres something.. thinking out loud here:


*On Greta.. George mentions that on June 24th is when he last saw Casey. Thats ALSO when he discovers the gas cans in the trunk of the car.

-- Knowing what we now know about this freakazoid family.. do we think that George would have mentioned if there were a horrible smell in the trunk at that time?

Lets say there wasn't a smell in the trunk on the 24th..


THEN...
According to the timeline... the car is abandoned:

JUNE 27
*On or about this date an abandoned car is noticed in the parking lot of the Amscot store.


Could June 24th- June 27th be an approximate time as to when something was done with Caylee?

That does make sense. Then maybe Casey didn't go out clubbing after Caylee went missing? That would be a comforting thought, as far as Caylee's sake is concerned.

Something of note~in the police report George says two 5 gallon cans@$50. Now last night on OTR George says something like a 1 1/2 gallons and 2 gallons. Why can't these people stick to a bloody story?????

[scout]

that's the same timeline we've always had, isn't it?

But before it was based on Jesse's phone call.

Now we can base it on the gas cans too.

Yep..

[scout]

that's the same timeline we've always had, isn't it?

But before it was based on Jesse's phone call.

Now we can base it on the gas cans too.

BUT.. I just realized.. the problem with *our* timeline is that it doesn't match Casey's! Remember she claims she had been missing 31 days on the 911 call!
Granted... she lies like a RUG.. but.. she does say that..

[LiveLaughLuv]

I am so worried about those gas cans. I do hope Caylee is alive and well though all points to NOT!

I just can't get past her unemotional talk when speaking about Caylee. I feel she has disassociated herself from the whole ordeal. She makes up lie after lie so who can tell what is truth.

I posted a link to Brians predictions and he feels that baby is dead in a park, the same park once investigated. I wonder if they had those cadaver dogs checking out that park. I am also very curious at what evidence that trunk of the car holds. Authorities will only make public what is necessary and hold the most damning evidence quiet, until....

Here is what Brian posted....
"It was an accident, dugs could not cover up the pain * blue t-shirt in bedroom * trash was removed * police have just searched the park, she was there"
"conway water Orlando Florida * flowers meet the water, go back, red"

Travis, I need your advise on this one...this is what I found so far.

Brian

UPDATE: 7.27.208 - I would check and see if Caylee's mother had recently ordered rx drugs from the web or other sources than from a doctor...if it's not already been done.

When I tune in to Caylee Anthony I feel that she was in the trunk of a car being transported. Hair or other fiber evidence would certainly be in this trunk. From the trunk she was taken to an outdoors place with lots of tall grasses, and coarse fern like plants. the ground is very mucky. There is also a cinder block building near by which I believe may be white in color. This area has a “park” feel to it, yet this cinderblock building is secluded or set back from were many people would be. This building may be a maintenance building or storage building of some kind.

reply

Thanks Travis

Brian
more at the link
http://briansprediction.com/gale/Caylee%20Anthony.htm

[scout]

... and lets face it.. we can't overlook the absolute FACT that NO ONE has come forward to say that they've seen Caylee AFTER JUNE 16th!!!!


GAHHHHH!!!... :francis: I'm losing my mind!!!

[Micky_Spill]

BUT.. I just realized.. the problem with *our* timeline is that it doesn't match Casey's! Remember she claims she had been missing 31 days on the 911 call!
Granted... she lies like a RUG.. but.. she does say that..


am i missing something, I thought it was cindy who made the 911 call?

[scout]

am i missing something, I thought it was cindy who made the 911 call?

Yes... she did.. but she put Casey on the phone to speak with the dispatcher..

[Harmony]

Interesting article from Orlando Sentinel:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-maxwell0608aug06,0,5611027.column?page=1

[Claudia]

OH MY EYES MY EYES!

I'm ruined now.

:girl_haha:

You don't think he's hot!?! He's a whole lotta man....

[Micky_Spill]

Interesting article from Orlando Sentinel:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-maxwell0608aug06,0,5611027.column?page=1

WELL WRITTEN ARTICLE!

Reminds me of a female writer for the Orlando Sentinel, can not recall her name at the moment but same writing style.

Reminds me of Lauren Ritchie
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-columnist-ritchie,0,759288.columnist

[KittyMom]

WELL WRITTEN ARTICLE!

Reminds me of another female writer for the Orlando Sentinel, can not recall her name at the moment but same writing style.

Reminds me of Lauren Ritchie
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-columnist-ritchie,0,759288.columnist

Lauren Ritchie?? She was very anti-NG during Trenton Ducketts case. In fact, IIRC, she was believed to be posting/reading on internet sites.

[Xmygrits]

Interesting article from Orlando Sentinel:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-maxwell0608aug06,0,5611027.column?page=1

Thanks for the link. He does make a good point, BUT...I have to say the public who are outraged at the way this family is covering up is not completely due to the media sensationalizing Casey's breasts.

Many of us strongly desire for this little girl to come home and open presents, (most of us believing "home" won't be the Anthony house), this weekend, but because of so many "mistruths" at every turn this probably won't happen any time soon.

[Micky_Spill]

Lauren Ritchie?? She was very anti-NG during Trenton Ducketts case. In fact, IIRC, she was believed to be posting/reading on internet sites.


Indeed she was and did on one of my blogs, I did not want to mention another case and be off topic though.

[Harmony]

Thanks for the link. He does make a good point, BUT...I have to say the public who are outraged at the way this family is covering up is not completely due to the media sensationalizing Casey's breasts.

Many of us strongly desire for this little girl to come home and open presents, (most of us believing "home" won't be the Anthony house), this weekend, but because of so many "mistruths" at every turn this probably won't happen any time soon.

The Anthonys' outrageous claims, mistruths and behavior have added to the sensationalism.

[KittyMom]

Thanks for the link. He does make a good point, BUT...I have to say the public who are outraged at the way this family is covering up is not completely due to the media sensationalizing Casey's breasts.

Many of us strongly desire for this little girl to come home and open presents, (most of us believing "home" won't be the Anthony house), this weekend, but because of so many "mistruths" at every turn this probably won't happen any time soon.

It's hard to blame the media when Cindy has been so visible in front of cameras. She could simply keep her mouth shut and the media would lose interest. Instead, she repeatedly goes on air and feeds the fodder herself. The media circus is as much Cindy's fault as anyones.

[Harmony]

I wonder if this case comes to trial would they ask for a change of venue. I believe sentiments are the same regardless of venue. Didn't Scott Peterson get one though?

[KittyMom]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7146828&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Cindy stopped to answer reporter's questions Wednesday morning before leaving her home.

Cindy said her daughter, Casey, believes her missing 2-year-old daughter Caylee could be in trouble. "Casey is telling us Caylee's life is in danger," she said.

Cindy canceled her scheduled visit to the Orange County Jail on Tuesday to see Casey because she says by her going, someone may think Casey would tell her something more information about the toddler's disappearance, putting the toddler in additional danger.


Cindy could've kept walking without opening her mouth. She chose to stop and make a comment.

[Xmygrits]

The Anthonys' outrageous claims, mistruths and behavior have added to the sensationalism.

ITA:zm10:

[protectkidz]

I was thinking about NG when watching Megyn at FOX grill Cindy week before last.

I was thinking, "Megan - you should thank your lucky stars that this crazy girl is locked up and can't hurt herself as Melinda Duckett did".

I have heard some extremely pointed questions come from media to the family in this case. Any of them could send a suspect over the edge if they were so inclined.

imo.

(and this is in re: to the OrlandoSentinel article and the views held by that newspaper to NG, who yes has a circus-like thing going for her but isn't afraid to ask hard questions).

[mollybrown]

Indeed she was and did on one of my blogs, I did not want to mention another case and be off topic though.

OFF TOPIC? :67302::67302:

We're always off topic...... That's part of the FUN HERE. :happy0158: (that and GREAT Smiles)

Morning all :happy0207:

[Xmygrits]

It's hard to blame the media when Cindy has been so visible in front of cameras. She could simply keep her mouth shut and the media would lose interest. Instead, she repeatedly goes on air and feeds the fodder herself. The media circus is as much Cindy's fault as anyones.

So true! I have been wondering wth was up with George being a part of this circus and allowing Cindy to shoot her mouth off about anything and everything...UNTIL yesterday's interview with Greta...then it all made sense. He is one of THEM.

[Trailblazer]

Heres something.. thinking out loud here:


*On Greta.. George mentions that on June 24th is when he last saw Casey. Thats ALSO when he discovers the gas cans in the trunk of the car.

-- Knowing what we now know about this freakazoid family.. do we think that George would have mentioned if there were a horrible smell in the trunk at that time?

Lets say there wasn't a smell in the trunk on the 24th..


THEN...
According to the timeline... the car is abandoned:

JUNE 27
*On or about this date an abandoned car is noticed in the parking lot of the Amscot store.


Could June 24th- June 27th be an approximate time as to when something was done with Caylee?

scout...we've all been saying we think that's when it happened...between June 24th and June 27th....

[protectkidz]

I wonder if this case comes to trial would they ask for a change of venue. I believe sentiments are the same regardless of venue. Didn't Scott Peterson get one though?

probably end up in Miami like the Couey case.

[Xmygrits]

OFF TOPIC? :67302::67302:

We're always off topic...... That's part of the FUN HERE. :happy0158: (that and GREAT Smiles)

Morning all :happy0207:

:happy0207: Ex-Mrs. Molly Brown-Furhman!

[Xmygrits]

probably end up in Miami like the Couey case.

That would stink cuz I want to attend this trial for sure!

[KittyMom]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7146584&version=1&locale=EN-US

Video of Cindy stopping to talk to media.

[Micky_Spill]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7146828&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



Cindy could've kept walking without opening her mouth. She chose to stop and make a comment.


Realistically they pounced on her immediately like a tiger on it's prey. Sure she could have not spoken but then we would be damning her for what she has to hide. Not taking her side here, but the media goes way over bounds IMO.

[Trailblazer]

snipped


Something of note~in the police report George says two 5 gallon cans@$50. Now last night on OTR George says something like a 1 1/2 gallons and 2 gallons. Why can't these people stick to a bloody story?????

What??? And make it easy on us??? These people can't tell the same story twice without changing it...

[protectkidz]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7146584&version=1&locale=EN-US

Video of Cindy stopping to talk to media.

I'm waiting for the day she tells them to f*off on the air. I feel that day is drawing near...

[protectkidz]

Realistically they pounced on her immediately like a tiger on it's prey. Sure she could have not spoken but then we would be damning her for what she has to hide. Not taking her side here, but the media goes way over bounds IMO.

they ARE bad. Not as bad as in some other places in the world, but bad for someone like Cindy who is not in a good position at this time.

[Micky_Spill]

I'm waiting for the day she tells them to f*off on the air. I feel that day is drawing near...


A lot of people probably would have a long time ago.

[protectkidz]

I think George needs to place a help wanted ad for a bodyguard for Cindy.

[protectkidz]

where's Faith?

[KittyMom]

I'm waiting for the day she tells them to f*off on the air. I feel that day is drawing near...

I don't see that happening. Cindy has an amazing sense of self-importance. She wants to talk because she thinks she knows it all and she has to impart that knowledge on us simple minded folks. And I don't think this is a new trait. I'd lay bets she's been this way all her life.

[DeeJay]

My mind keeps going back to these two parts in the 911 call.


Cindy: yes. I got her. I finally found her after a month. She's been missing for a month. I found her but we can't find my granddaughter.


Cindy Anthony: My next thing will be child's thing and we'll have a court order to get her if thats what you wanna play. We'll do it and you'll never...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US


So the Anthonys had not seen CASEY herself for a month.

Too, Cindy was saying she was going to court to get custody of
Caylee and Casey would never see Caylee
again.............That's what I get from those statements.

I think there'd been problems with Casey and the care
of Caylee for a while and not just during that 911 call.

*Things* had been "building up" between the Anthonys
and Casey.

[KittyMom]

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TC2CLG64ROSK641DJ

:67302::67302::67302:

post #4

Poster claims that OS sued to get a copy of Dale Earnhart's autopsy photos. It takes some nerve to make any comments about media considering that.

[Harmony]

where's Faith?

She went to run an errand. I am trying to scan the news for her. She does alot better job than I do.

[Xmygrits]

Realistically they pounced on her immediately like a tiger on it's prey. Sure she could have not spoken but then we would be damning her for what she has to hide. Not taking her side here, but the media goes way over bounds IMO.

Yes they do and they tend to broadcast stories that are inaccurate, BUT...again but, that family has willingly spoken out and delibrately mislead on record, so they hold some responsibility for how the public views them. JMO.

[Xmygrits]

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TC2CLG64ROSK641DJ

:67302::67302::67302:

post #4

Poster claims that OS sued to get a copy of Dale Earnhart's autopsy photos. It takes some nerve to make any comments about media considering that.

That poster was correct...OS did sue for those autopsy photos.

I read your post again and see your point and I agree. Pot, meet Kettle.

[Faith]

:happy0207:

O/T

I'm around, trying to keep up with you guys. Calling LE on another case, cleaning house for a change- :girl_haha:-- need to go to town but haven't got there yet. I have a new German Shepherd puppy and she needs puppy chow- she's eating Jake's food LOL

Jazzi
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Jazzi/100_9750.jpg

Thank you all for posting info. You all Rock!! :happy0158:

[Faith]

I think George needs to place a help wanted ad for a bodyguard for Cindy.


Why do you think this?

[Audie]

June 17th is when Zanny supposedly filled out a guest card at the apartment complex where Casey said she dropped Caylee off.Oh yeah. Sheesh. This case is making me brain dead.

[Xmygrits]

:happy0207:

O/T

I'm around, trying to keep up with you guys. Calling LE on another case, cleaning house for a change- :girl_haha:-- need to go to town but haven't got there yet. I have a new German Shepherd puppy and she needs puppy chow- she's eating Jake's food LOL

Jazzi
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Jazzi/100_9750.jpg

Thank you all for posting info. You all Rock!! :happy0158:

Oh how cute is that!!!!!!!

[Faith]

She went to run an errand. I am trying to scan the news for her. She does alot better job than I do.


You're doing great, harmony. Thank you ever so much- :love0085:

Redd is also posting things in the info threads- :happy0158:

Thanks all-- I need a helper at home to do my work so I can be here- lol

[Micky_Spill]

That poster was correct...OS did sue for those autopsy photos.

I read your post again and see your point and I agree. Pot, meet Kettle.


I guess I was speaking in general about media and not trying to out the OS but since they are the target here or so it seems, the autopsy photos of anyone are public record UNLESS there is an active criminal investigation.

I agree that George and Cindy have opened themselves up to criticism and it is pretty easy to do seeing how George was almost cartoon like in his animated video discussing how Myspace friends turn against you, really how prophetic!

But in a way, it does seem a little like bashing the victims family, unless Grandma or Grandpa actually did the deed.

[Harmony]

Just a headsup!!


I googled Casey's name and listed was a video with pictures of Casey. I clicked on the link and the video contained a virus that my computer blocked.

[Trailblazer]

:happy0207:

O/T

I'm around, trying to keep up with you guys. Calling LE on another case, cleaning house for a change- :girl_haha:-- need to go to town but haven't got there yet. I have a new German Shepherd puppy and she needs puppy chow- she's eating Jake's food LOL

Jazzi
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Jazzi/100_9750.jpg

Thank you all for posting info. You all Rock!! :happy0158:

OMG Faith....I want that baby....She is absolutely adorable...how old is Jazzi????

[nicky]

Have I missed anything so far this am, first chance to get on crappy work computer, boss came in raising heck about floors not vaccumed....Hello I told him last year it was broken, and twice this year. I hate this job, I got to find another one..

Any NC sceduled for today or tape releases?

[Trailblazer]

You're doing great, harmony. Thank you ever so much- :love0085:

Redd is also posting things in the info threads- :happy0158:

Thanks all-- I need a helper at home to do my work so I can be here- lol


Maybe you should consider checking with Lee Anthony...He might have a spare personal asst. you could use :shrug1:

[Audie]

I'm now wondering if something happened between Casey and Cindy on Fathers day. A big fight that they are not talking about? According to Cindy's myspace blog, there was some pretty sizable jealousy issues between her and Casey over Caylee. What date did Cindy write that blog, does anyone recall?Wasn't it reported early on, that something like you are referring to, happened on the 15th or that weekend?

[Xmygrits]

I guess I was speaking in general about media and not trying to out the OS but since they are the target here or so it seems, the autopsy photos of anyone are public record UNLESS there is an criminal investigation.

I agree that George and Cindy have opened themselves up to criticism and it is pretty easy to do seeing how George was almost cartoon like in his animated video discussing how Myspace friends turn against you, really how prophetic!

But in a way, it does seem a little like bashing the victims family, unless Grandma or Grandpa actually did the deed.

True but...what about someone who knowingly stands by while someone commits a felony, or knowingly covers for a person who commits a felony or lies to law enforcement about information pertaining to an offense? Accessory, aiding, obstructing?

[KittyMom]

I guess I was speaking in general about media and not trying to out the OS but since they are the target here or so it seems, the autopsy photos of anyone are public record UNLESS there is an active criminal investigation.

I agree that George and Cindy have opened themselves up to criticism and it is pretty easy to do seeing how George was almost cartoon like in his animated video discussing how Myspace friends turn against you, really how prophetic!

But in a way, it does seem a little like bashing the victims family, unless Grandma or Grandpa actually did the deed.

Grandma lied on the stand during the bond hearing. What are your thoughts on that?

[Xmygrits]

Have I missed anything so far this am, first chance to get on crappy work computer, boss came in raising heck about floors not vaccumed....Hello I told him last year it was broken, and twice this year. I hate this job, I got to find another one..

Any NC sceduled for today or tape releases?

IF you don't mind being on call 24/7 and working for free, I know of two that are available!

[Xmygrits]

Wasn't it reported early on, that something like you are referring to, happened on the 15th or that weekend?

I don't know for sure, but that's what I want too know!

[Lilly]

My mind keeps going back to these two parts in the 911 call.


Cindy: yes. I got her. I finally found her after a month. She's been missing for a month. I found her but we can't find my granddaughter.


Cindy Anthony: My next thing will be child's thing and we'll have a court order to get her if thats what you wanna play. We'll do it and you'll never...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US


So the Anthonys had not seen CASEY herself for a month.

Too, Cindy was saying she was going to court to get custody of
Caylee and Casey would never see Caylee
again.............That's what I get from those statements.

I think there'd been problems with Casey and the care
of Caylee for a while and not just during that 911 call.

*Things* had been "building up" between the Anthonys
and Casey.


Hey ya'll :) ITA DeeJay. In Cindy's July 3rd blog Cindy said that her daughter had no money and not future. She refers to her and George paying all of the bills and raising Caylee from birth. She also askes who'll look out for the angel? On the first taped phonecall to Casey, Cindy acknowledges to Casey that she's been "lying about everything". All of that just tells me that there had been problems with Casey and her not taking responsibility as a mother, and also Cindy not trusting her to look out for Caylee.

Now they're defending her. I think it's because they know she's all they have left to fight for.

[Micky_Spill]

True but...what about someone who knowingly stands by while someone commits a felony, or knowingly covers for a person who commits a felony or lies to law enforcement about information pertaining to an offense? Accessory, aiding, obstructing?


I agree 100% thou I am not sure I would say Cindy is doing that, again she is in a difficult position. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make them drink. Casey is a whole different ballgame.

I see she is back peddling a little, realizing things she said most likely will help put a nail in her own daughter's coffin. And people when they step back and re-think some things do change their opinion, just look at our political process.

[Xmygrits]

I agree 100% thou I am not sure I would say Cindy is doing that, again she is in a difficult position. You can lead a horse to water but you can not make them drink. Casey is a whole different ballgame. I see she is back peddling a little, realizing things she said most likely will help put a nail in her own daughter's coffin. And people when they step back and re-think some things do change their opinion, just look at our political process.
Please don't make me!!!! I get too upset when I look at any part of the political arena.:groan:

[nicky]

IF you don't mind being on call 24/7 and working for free, I know of two that are available!

Thanks, but I need money..lol

[mollybrown]

My mind keeps going back to these two parts in the 911 call.


[i]Cindy: yes. I got her. I finally found her after a month. She's been missing for a month. I found her but we can't find my granddaughter.




Snipped with respect :wink:

Haven't seen her for A MONTH June 15th till July 15th. What happened to Casey at their house on the 24th of June and the whole gas can thing? :shrug1:

[awakening2lite]

IF you don't mind being on call 24/7 and working for free, I know of two that are available!


Good Day Everyone! :happy0207:

Hi XMG

I can't stop thinking about the nerve they have in asking for people to work for them for 24/7, travel for them, and in general do all the things the family of a missing person would do. It's as if they are tired of it now and want to pass the baton without seeming to do so. I can't image they haven't had people volunteer before they ran the ad.

Asking for help is one thing, but asking for that kind of help is closer to making a point than getting serious assistance. And I get the point loud and clearly.

[mollybrown]

:happy0207:

Jazzi
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Jazzi/100_9750.jpg

Thank you all for posting info. You all Rock!! :happy0158:

awwwww Faith he's beautiful :love0085:

[DeeJay]

Hey ya'll :) ITA DeeJay. In Cindy's July 3rd blog Cindy said that her daughter had no money and not future. She refers to her and George paying all of the bills and raising Caylee from birth. She also askes who'll look out for the angel? On the first taped phonecall to Casey, Cindy acknowledges to Casey that she's been "lying about everything". All of that just tells me that there had been problems with Casey and her not taking responsibility as a mother, and also Cindy not trusting her to look out for Caylee.

Now they're defending her. I think it's because they know she's all they have left to fight for.

Thanks for your reply. Appreciate it.

I do believe those statements, along with what Cindy posted on her blog, are good clues as to exactly what was/is going on in that family pertaining to Casey & Caylee.

Reading between all the lines, Cindy had reservations as to how Casey had not been caring for Caylee.
I believe what Cindy said to 911 and on her blog to be closer to how she felt/feels about Casey and her lies. For whatever reason, she keeps saying the opposite to the media. IF only I could figure it out!

Even the few friends of Caseys that have made statements, all say Casey changed when she met the new crowd of friends, i.e., the ones that work/hang at Fusian.

[Xmygrits]

Thanks, but I need money..lol

:wink: Minor details like money always get in the way!

In the meantime feel free to vent about your jerky boss anytime! I used to work for a nasty wee little man that I called "raisin man" cuz I was sure as snot his you-know-whats were about that size.

[DeeJay]

Snipped with respect :wink:

Haven't seen her for A MONTH June 15th till July 15th. What happened to Casey at their house on the 24th of June and the whole gas can thing? :shrug1:

Again, George was LYING to Greta last night.

I put more faith & belief in the 911 calls made by Cindy.

[Xmygrits]

Good Day Everyone! :happy0207:

Hi XMG

I can't stop thinking about the nerve they have in asking for people to work for them for 24/7, travel for them, and in general do all the things the family of a missing person would do. It's as if they are tired of it now and want to pass the baton without seeming to do so. I can't image they haven't had people volunteer before they ran the ad.

Asking for help is one thing, but asking for that kind of help is closer to making a point than getting serious assistance. And I get the point loud and clearly.


Howdy friend! :0012:

When I read they were asking for grocery store gift cards, gas cards and the like I lost it!

[nicky]

:wink: Minor details like money always get in the way!

In the meantime feel free to vent about your jerky boss anytime! I used to work for a nasty wee little man that I called "raisin man" cuz I was sure as snot his you-know-whats were about that size.

lmao....he's shorter than me...short man complex

[Xmygrits]

lmao....he's shorter than me...short man complex

Napoleon Syndrom is one of THE worst to work for! My sympathies girl!

[ReddCurrlz]

Afternoon ya'll :happy0207:

Just ran across this and thought it might be of interest . . .. and keep us on the edge of our seats even more than we already are.

August 6th, 2008 10:46 AM Eastern
behind the scenes…. (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/)

by Greta Van Susteren
We are sitting on a bench at the airport trying to decide whether to board our plane in 45 minutes or stay down here in Orlando. We just got word of some new information and if we can get the interview to go with it, we will stay……we have another unrelated interview scheduled for 5pm in the DC area and thus the interest in returning to DC…right now we are just working the phones. Will keep you posted…



http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/

[awakening2lite]

Howdy friend! :0012:

When I read they were asking for grocery store gift cards, gas cards and the like I lost it!

Howdy friend :howdy:

Now, the gift cards are news, to me! I am floored by that. They want to profit by this? Next, they'll sign for a book deal or movie. Sickening, deplorable! And in the case there is a small book publishing company or movie broker reading, I wouldn't pay .10 to watch or read it.

[nicky]

Good Day Everyone! :happy0207:

Hi XMG

I can't stop thinking about the nerve they have in asking for people to work for them for 24/7, travel for them, and in general do all the things the family of a missing person would do. It's as if they are tired of it now and want to pass the baton without seeming to do so. I can't image they haven't had people volunteer before they ran the ad.

Asking for help is one thing, but asking for that kind of help is closer to making a point than getting serious assistance. And I get the point loud and clearly.

I bet they have turned down many people willing tp search!

[Madhatter]

Did anyone else hear Greta say (on 8/5/08) that there was alot more of her interview with Cindy and George on her website? I could swear I heard her say that their interview lasted two hours!

[protectkidz]

Afternoon ya'll :happy0207:

Just ran across this and thought it might be of interest . . .. and keep us on the edge of our seats even more than we already are.

August 6th, 2008 10:46 AM Eastern
behind the scenes…. (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/)

by Greta Van Susteren
We are sitting on a bench at the airport trying to decide whether to board our plane in 45 minutes or stay down here in Orlando. We just got word of some new information and if we can get the interview to go with it, we will stay……we have another unrelated interview scheduled for 5pm in the DC area and thus the interest in returning to DC…right now we are just working the phones. Will keep you posted…



http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/

hmmmmm......

very interesting......

[nicky]

Afternoon ya'll :happy0207:

Just ran across this and thought it might be of interest . . .. and keep us on the edge of our seats even more than we already are.

August 6th, 2008 10:46 AM Eastern
behind the scenes…. (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/)

by Greta Van Susteren
We are sitting on a bench at the airport trying to decide whether to board our plane in 45 minutes or stay down here in Orlando. We just got word of some new information and if we can get the interview to go with it, we will stay……we have another unrelated interview scheduled for 5pm in the DC area and thus the interest in returning to DC…right now we are just working the phones. Will keep you posted…



http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/

Stay Greta Stay

[Trailblazer]

Afternoon ya'll :happy0207:

Just ran across this and thought it might be of interest . . .. and keep us on the edge of our seats even more than we already are.

August 6th, 2008 10:46 AM Eastern
behind the scenes…. (http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/)

by Greta Van Susteren
We are sitting on a bench at the airport trying to decide whether to board our plane in 45 minutes or stay down here in Orlando. We just got word of some new information and if we can get the interview to go with it, we will stay……we have another unrelated interview scheduled for 5pm in the DC area and thus the interest in returning to DC…right now we are just working the phones. Will keep you posted…



http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/behind-the-scenes-19/


Hmmm....so it's already after 1PM...so did Greta get on the plane or not????

WHY IS NOTHING SIMPLE IN THIS CASE


:groan:

[nicky]

Wish there was a way we could find out if she stayed.

[Lilly]

Did anyone else hear Greta say (on 8/5/08) that there was alot more of her interview with Cindy and George on her website? I could swear I heard her say that their interview lasted two hours! I heard it too!

[awakening2lite]

The guest card completed at the apartment complex should contain finger prints, shouldn't it?

I think it is highly likely that Casey herself completed that card. And I can't believe the FBI or LE didn't run it for prints.

[awakening2lite]

I bet they have turned down many people willing tp search!

I think you would win that bet!

[Trailblazer]

Attorney: Ortiz Probably Not Caylee's Father

http://www.wesh.com/news/17110771/detail.html

[Harmony]

Fox just reported investigators went back to Sawgrass to look into possibility Casey signed the card using ZG as alias.

[ReddCurrlz]

Howdy friend! :0012:

When I read they were asking for grocery store gift cards, gas cards and the like I lost it!

Yeah, umm that doesn't sit right w/me either.
I have wayyy too much pride to do that

[mollybrown]

The guest card completed at the apartment complex should contain finger prints, shouldn't it?

I think it is highly likely that Casey herself completed that card. And I can't believe the FBI or LE didn't run it for prints.

Well I think that they just decided the date was a 6 (June) and not a 4 (April).

The complex said the handwritting was really sloppy, I would bet the LE's went back and nabbed that card. :0009:

[awakening2lite]

Fox just reported investigators went back to Sawgrass to look into possibility Casey signed the card using ZG as alias.

They went back? Why didn't they run prints when they first discovered the card? :groan:

[awakening2lite]

Well I think that they just decided the date was a 6 (June) and not a 4 (April).

The complex said the handwritting was really sloppy, I would bet the LE's went back and nabbed that card. :0009:


So I guess the management does not keep a log of any kind.

[protectkidz]

Fox just reported investigators went back to Sawgrass to look into possibility Casey signed the card using ZG as alias.

:hifive:

yay, cops.

[Madhatter]

I heard it too!

Thanks for confirming! Have you had any luck finding it on the Fox website? I've been looking for it all morning, but the videos posted are the same content as Greta's show.

[awakening2lite]

Brb

[Trailblazer]

Controversy Over Gas Cans, Brother May Skip Jail Visit

http://www.wftv.com/news/17107547/detail.html

[Harmony]

Cindy: re the gas cans

http://www.wesh.com/news/17110360/detail.html

[protectkidz]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....

[Lilly]

Yeah, umm that doesn't sit right w/me either.
I have wayyy too much pride to do that

Oh my goodness Redd.. you're Gbaby is beautiful! Congrats again! :zm10:

[Xmygrits]

The guest card completed at the apartment complex should contain finger prints, shouldn't it?

I think it is highly likely that Casey herself completed that card. And I can't believe the FBI or LE didn't run it for prints.

Yeah! Really! I wonder what's up with that? Maybe they did? Maybe we could call the apt complex and ask how long do they keep guest cards on file? I'll call if anyone has the name of the complex handy.

[Lilly]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....

How about trying Olive Oil?

[Xmygrits]

Well I think that they just decided the date was a 6 (June) and not a 4 (April).

The complex said the handwritting was really sloppy, I would bet the LE's went back and nabbed that card. :0009:

The guest card completed at the apartment complex should contain finger prints, shouldn't it?

I think it is highly likely that Casey herself completed that card. And I can't believe the FBI or LE didn't run it for prints.

Fox just reported investigators went back to Sawgrass to look into possibility Casey signed the card using ZG as alias.


One would have thought they would have taken it when they first heard about it, I mean, my god, it has the name of the person who supposedly napped Caylee. :groan:

[protectkidz]

How about trying Olive Oil?

thanks! I'll try it!

[Xmygrits]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....

:67302: Sorry bout chur luck, but that was darn tootin funny!

[Isabella]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....
Unauthorized jaunt..too funny..:67302:

[Claudia]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....

Ewww... good luck with that!

[Trailblazer]

does anyone know if I can use Goo Gone on my dog's fur? She took an unauthorized jaunt thru the woods and is covered in sap....

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070320150808AAAKDKZ

To remove sap, tar, paint, chewing gum or other sticky things from your dog's coat, there is nothing that beats salad oil!

[Lilly]

thanks! I'll try it!

OK, I had to look it up and see what else you can use.. haha.. evidently butter and peanut butter work too and you can was it off with dish soap.

[ReddCurrlz]

Hmmm....so it's already after 1PM...so did Greta get on the plane or not????

WHY IS NOTHING SIMPLE IN THIS CASE


:groan:

I can't find where she did or didn't.

[Madhatter]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963775&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Greta states at the end of this video:

"You will see much more of our interview with Caylee's grandparents tomorrow night and we will have the complete interview which is almost two hours posted soon on GretaWire.com."

TWO HOURS!!!!

[ReddCurrlz]

So, if ya'll's latest speculation comes to fruition about the sawgrass card, then prosecution would be trying to prove premeditated murder?????

Hmmmmmm all kindsa interesting twists n turns in this case

[Claudia]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963775&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Greta states at the end of this video:

"You will see much more of our interview with Caylee's grandparents tomorrow night and we will have the complete interview which is almost two hours posted soon on GretaWire.com."

TWO HOURS!!!!

It'll probably all be posted online after the show tonight. Can't wait to see it!

[Xmygrits]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963775&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Greta states at the end of this video:

"You will see much more of our interview with Caylee's grandparents tomorrow night and we will have the complete interview which is almost two hours posted soon on GretaWire.com."

TWO HOURS!!!!

Wow! 2 hours! I'm sure they showed the high lights last night though.

[Isabella]

IF you don't mind being on call 24/7 and working for free, I know of two that are available!
Let me guess..Lee and George Anthony? :girl_haha:

[Isabella]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963775&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

Greta states at the end of this video:

"You will see much more of our interview with Caylee's grandparents tomorrow night and we will have the complete interview which is almost two hours posted soon on GretaWire.com."

TWO HOURS!!!!
TY
I thought Greta said that, I looked last night but didn't see it.
Not sure I can take Cindy for two whole hours. lol

[awakening2lite]

VAN SUSTEREN: Has she been formally charged now? Because I heard that something today that she was going to be. Do you know if…

CINDY ANTHONY, MISSING CHILD’S GRANDMOTHER: Yes. Actually, I just spoke to her attorney as I pulled in the driveway — I just got home a few minutes ago — and confirmed because I had heard, you know, rumors about 10 to 15 minutes prior to speaking with him. And it was actually — it wasn’t a surprise to him, wasn’t a surprise to us. I mean, that’s the reason that they were holding her for, was willful child neglect and withholding vital evidence or something from the authorities.

But right now, I mean, he’s — her attorney and I am looking at this as a victory because if they had something else to charge her with, they certainly would have done that today. So that just tells us that they don’t have anything on Casey. And they’re not going to have anything on Casey. So they want to keep her there because they think she’s going to crack and she’s going to tell them exactly where Caylee’s at. I mean, one thing I know for sure is that Casey knows who has Caylee, but she doesn’t know where Caylee’s at. And I know one thing for sure is that, you know, Casey is determined that she’s going to protect Caylee until the end. If it costs her — you know, her being behind bars the rest for life, she’s going to protect Caylee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you 100 percent believe your daughter?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, I do.

VAN SUSTEREN: George, what about you, 100 percent?

GEORGE ANTHONY, MISSING CHILD’S GRANDFATHER: More than 100 percent. I just had a chance to meet with her on Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: And?

GEORGE ANTHONY: For 43 minutes out of 45 minutes I got a chance to spend with her, all we did was talk about was Caylee, about her birthday, you know, so many different things that are going to be happening here. She wants to be home for that. So I believe my daughter. She’s going to be fine, but I want my granddaughter home. She’s going to be fine, so…

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, the police say that she’s — that she lies, you know, that she lied about her job, that she’s given them a couple — a runaround. What do you know about this? Do you know anything at all?

CINDY ANTHONY: I haven’t had a chance to sit down and talk to Casey about, you know, a lot of different things, and I’m sure we’ll have a big conversation when I have the opportunity to do so. You know, lying is not a criminal offense. You know, lying doesn’t mean that you’re a murderer.

VAN SUSTEREN: Let me talk about the timeline. We talk about finding Caylee, and the best way to do it is sort of explore it by looking at the timeline. June 13, there is video of her from a Father’s Day event, right.

CINDY ANTHONY: No, it’s June 15, Father’s Day, which was mistaken early on because, you know, I never even thought about what day Father’s Day was. I just — I knew it was a Sunday in June I had taken that video, and I knew that was the last day that I physically saw her, even though I knew where she was sleeping the next morning. My husband actually saw Caylee and Casey leave on the 16th of June.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So the 15th is Sunday, Father’s Day. Everything’s normal, everything’s fine. The next morning is the last day that either you or George saw her. Do you remember about what time of day it was?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Oh, specifically. I remember it was 10 minutes to 1:00 on Monday the 16th.

VAN SUSTEREN: So in the middle of the afternoon or early afternoon.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, it was shortly after the lunchtime hour. I was watching a favorite show I like to watch on TV, a news…

CINDY ANTHONY: Before you go to work.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, it’s was a Food Channel thing I watched, so…

VAN SUSTEREN: And was it — you were watching here in the living room.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Right, and I was sitting right here, almost in the same spot, just watching it, and saw my granddaughter and my daughter come out, you know, with their backpacks and…

CINDY ANTHONY: Like any other day.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Just like a normal thing type thing.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know where they were headed with the backpacks?

GEORGE ANTHONY: My daughter said that she was going to work, dropping her daughter off at the nanny’s house, and that was it. I give them both hugs, kisses and saw them go out the door like a typical thing that they’ve — that she’s done.

VAN SUSTEREN: Nothing out of the ordinary?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Just smiles, hugs. Dad, we’ll see you tomorrow because I might be working a little bit late, type deal. And that was it.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, I know you won’t reveal the details, but can you just tell me, has Casey told you what has happened to that child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. In her way. And I can’t reveal that.

VAN SUSTEREN: But in her way — so that, I mean — I know, George, that it was at least reported that you came out the other day and said that Casey said that Caylee was close, which is, you know, rather vague. Is that — is that the kind of information that, Cindy, you have, or do you have, like, specific information that satisfies you?

GEORGE ANTHONY: She just feels that Caylee’s close, she’s still safe.

CINDY ANTHONY: And I think you can interpret that in a couple of ways. Close meaning within the central Florida area, close meaning in the neighborhood — I don’t think that’s what she means — close to maybe coming home. There’s a lot of different ways to interpret that. My interpretation is that she’s, hopefully, in this area.

VAN SUSTEREN: I guess it’s not so much the comment, but I’m wondering whether she was — you know, that she spoke the same way to you in conveying the information, you know, which is sort of code or vague, or whether she was much more specific with you, so that you say to yourself, Cindy, I know what happened, and I understand now why it has transpired as it has.

CINDY ANTHONY: No, I think that is just a genuine (ph) statement. I don’t think that was a code. I think that’s her gut feeling. Again, she’s maintained all along that she doesn’t know the physical whereabouts where Caylee’s at. She knows who has her, who’s responsible for taking her, but she does not know the physical whereabouts.

And this is her mom’s room. This is Casey’s room.

VAN SUSTEREN: This is Casey’s room. And you told me that Caylee oftentimes slept with her mother, right?

CINDY ANTHONY: Oh, she — almost every — every night, she slept in here, from the time she was born.

VAN SUSTEREN: This is how the room is pretty much…

CINDY ANTHONY: This is how the room is always.

VAN SUSTEREN: And this is…

CINDY ANTHONY: Except for Caylee’s toys usually being on bed, a blanket, some stuffed animals, those kind of things.

VAN SUSTEREN: Who’s the father? I mean, that’s the other big mystery that we don’t know.

CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee’s never had a father. He was a friend of Casey’s. He’s never been in Caylee’s life. He’s not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey’s that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Caylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee’s life. This is her life. Excuse me.

VAN SUSTEREN: I’ve never seen so many stuffed animals in my life.

CINDY ANTHONY: There’s more!

VAN SUSTEREN: There more?

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: There are little monkeys — little monkeys, rabbits, tigers.

CINDY ANTHONY: You can tell the animals have been sleeping on her bed because her pillows are off of the bed. Tinker and Tillie (INAUDIBLE) up here (INAUDIBLE) since Caylee’s not here.

VAN SUSTEREN: And the baby picture? The baby picture?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. That has a lot of Caylee’s personality. That was in the hospital, what, two days after she was born. I mean, that’s Caylee, expression like, You know what? You better — you better behave, you know? She’s just got her eye on you, so…

VAN SUSTEREN: And over here, the toys and all the books. What is this? Oh, her birth — is this her first — this is her very — this is when she was born.

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. I made that the first week, all those pictures within the first week of Caylee coming home. We had a baby shower. Caylee was born on a Monday night or Tuesday morning, and we had a baby shower for her on that Saturday. And this was a baby shower present that I put together for Casey, just within that week, with pictures Caylee’s birth announcement.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VAN SUSTEREN: There’s much more of our interview with the grandparents in a few minutes.

But first, joining us live here on the ground in Orlando is former LAPD homicide detective Mark Fuhrman. Mark, it seems that by virtue of what the mother is saying — not the grandmother, the mother — but there are three choices. One is that Casey knows something, but is completely innocent. Another is that she knows something but is complicit, involved. And the third is that she did something. Because she’s not saying — she’s not saying, I don’t know anything.

MARK FUHRMAN, FMR LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Well, when you look at this, you can hypothetically say that she’s a victim, along with her daughter. But the problem here is you have biological evidence in her car. She steals gas. She borrows a shovel. All these things kind of roll into a place that she’s involved, not some independent or some remote or some anonymous person.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. We don’t have the biological information back. Certainly, it’s suspicious enough to warrant to send it for testing. Maybe there’s an innocent explanation. We’re still — you know, that’s still being looked at.

In terms of the gas cans in the trunk, what the parents — grandparents told us is that she had a problem with her gas tank, with some sort of gauge or sensor in it, and that she was bringing the gas along in the trunk. The sort of curious thing, and I think we’ll probably see that in a moment in the next segment, is that — in terms of the gasoline is that she broke open the home (ph) shed, busted the lock to get them.

FUHRMAN: Well, lookit, does anything make any sense? I’m just — I’m shocked at the lack of relevant information from this entire family. We have a lot of belief and a lot of intuition and, I stand behind. But as far as evidence, Casey holds something very dear to her right now, either the information that she was involved or the information that somebody else was involved or a third party.

And what she’s doing is, is she has completely removed herself from any normal emotion of a mother missing a child, and that is the most disturbing part for me.

VAN SUSTEREN: And of course, the police or the investigators need this information desperately.

FUHRMAN: They need it desperately, and if she’s the only one that can provide it, if she doesn’t provide it, then she is actually either the suspect or an accessory after the fact to the abduction and/or death of her own daughter.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Mark, if you’ll just stand by?

Coming up: More of our interview with missing Caylee’s grandparents. And for the first time, you will see the back yard where cadaver dogs sniffed and crime scene investigators dug, looking for evidence. That is coming up.

And later, the jailed mother’s lawyer goes “On the Record.” The burning question, Is Caylee alive? And is her jailed mother afraid to say where her daughter is because she fears something horrible could happen to her? You will hear him.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing now with missing Caylee Anthony’s grandparents, and for the first time, you will see the back yard that crime scene investigators dug up looking for evidence after Caylee vanished.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CINDY ANTHONY: I was told that the dog was inconsistent on a hit here and…

VAN SUSTEREN: Here being right here at the house?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. And inconsistent where her sandbox was.

VAN SUSTEREN: Which is where?

CINDY ANTHONY: Where it’s at now, roughly.

VAN SUSTEREN: Oh, is this the sandbox?

CINDY ANTHONY: That’s the sandbox.

VAN SUSTEREN: That has a cover on it. OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: So there was — there was an inconsistent alert here.

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, an inconsistent alert over in the corner of the house.

VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning over behind — near the pool?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, so they never had, as you understand it, an alert. They rather had an inconsistent one.

CINDY ANTHONY: They had an inconsistent alert, so that’s why they explained to us why the brought the second cadaver dog in. The second dog did not alert in the same spots that they did.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did not?

CINDY ANTHONY: Did not.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did not. All right. Did…

CINDY ANTHONY: And there was nothing that they found that had any — you know, that they came up with any evidence.

VAN SUSTEREN: Does Casey say she borrowed a shovel from a neighbor?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And what did she say her purpose of borrowing a shovel…

CINDY ANTHONY: To look (ph) for the bamboo.

VAN SUSTEREN: So to remove the bamboo, which grows very…

CINDY ANTHONY: Rapidly.

VAN SUSTEREN: … Aggressively.

CINDY ANTHONY: Right. It does. And if we don’t keep track of it — if I don’t get rid of that today, I’ll have other shoots coming into the rest of the yard.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you not have a shovel that she could have used?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, we do have a shovel she could have used. But if she was here and we weren’t home — George and I made a decision when we started locking the sheds this year because last year, Caylee wasn’t able to do some of the things she can do this year. So we made a conscious effort to lock the sheds. We have three sheds.

VAN SUSTEREN: Are these the sheds were there was some report something was stolen from the sheds or broken into?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it’s a normal shed.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was something reported stolen from this, though?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, gas cans.

VAN SUSTEREN: When was that report made that gas cans were stolen?

CINDY ANTHONY: You’d have to ask George.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was that, though, before Caylee was — had been reported missing or after, that the gas cans…

CINDY ANTHONY: That was before.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely.

VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were — how many gas cans?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That’s when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don’t believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I’m almost positive it’s a Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

That’s when I saw my daughter. I was getting ready to go to work, and the garage door goes open and my daughter comes in. This is about 2:25, 2:30 in the afternoon on the 24th. As she comes in the house, and I said, Hey, how’re you doing? And she says, Fine, Dad. I says, Well, what’s going on? And she says, Oh, I’m just stopping home for about 10 minutes, get some clothes. I go to go back to work. Where’s Caylee? She’s with Zanny. And I said, OK, when are you guys coming home? She says, Oh, we’ll be back home maybe late tonight or the next day.

I said, OK. Have you been talking to Mom? Oh, yes, I talk to Mom every day. I said, I know, but did you talk to Mom today? She sort of hesitated for a moment and she says, Yes. And she says, Oh, by the way, it’s a shame what happened in the shed. And I said…

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, because (INAUDIBLE)

GEORGE ANTHONY: And I said, Really? She says, yes. I said, Interesting. And I just said, Hey, by the way, I said, I’m getting ready to rotate your mom’s tires on her car. There’s a little metal wedge that fits underneath your tires so your car doesn’t rock back and forth. And I said, Well, I’d like to have it, so in case you’re not here over the weekend, I’d like to be able to do it.

She was hesitant about letting me get in the car. And I said, Well, listen, I got an extra key. I’ll just go get it. Well, she was adamant about — about that.

VAN SUSTEREN: What, not letting you into the car?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, didn’t want me to get into the car to get the stuff out. Dad, I’ll get it for you. Dad, I’ll get it out. I said, It’s no problem. I know where it’s at. I’ll get it, get it out and be done with it.

So as we’re walking out through the garage, she’s still telling me, Dad, I’ll get it. Give me a minute, I’ll get it. I said, Casey, I’m capable of reaching inside your car, and I got it. So — and she opened up the trunk of the car…

CINDY ANTHONY: The gas cans were there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) The gas cans there. She’s the one that took the gas cans.

source: http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-speak-with-greta-transcript/

[Audie]

that's the same timeline we've always had, isn't it?

But before it was based on Jesse's phone call.

Now we can base it on the gas cans too.
Warning: This is a tad graphic.







So we are back to this timeline. Lets say, god forbid, that Caylee is buried in the backyard on the 24th when Geo encounters Casey and the cans in the trunk (I'm assuming at he house). Geo doesn't see the stain if it's there at that time. Maybe Casey came back to get Caylee, Geo was home. She eventually leaves, but comes back later when no one is home and does the transfer.

I have a question that y'all prob can't answer. If that stain is blood, wouldn't that have happened right after death? If it was later, then I would think the stain would be just a decomposing body stain. Actually, it could be both. Killed, put in trunk, bled out, buried in back yard, put back in trunk for long enough for the smell to absorb in, then discarded. jmo

[Xmygrits]

It'll probably all be posted online after the show tonight. Can't wait to see it!

Claudia..............honey..............your AV is just wrong on so many levels. I'm having a tough time keepin my lunch down every time I see it.

[Xmygrits]

Warning: This is a tad graphic.







So we are back to this timeline. Lets say, god forbid, that Caylee is buried in the backyard on the 24th when Geo encounters Casey and the cans in the trunk (I'm assuming at he house). Geo doesn't see the stain if it's there at that time. Maybe Casey came back to get Caylee, Geo was home. She eventually leaves, but comes back later when no one is home and does the transfer.

I have a question that y'all prob can't answer. If that stain is blood, wouldn't that have happened right after death? If it was later, then I would think the stain would be just a decomposing body stain. Actually, it could be both. Killed, put in trunk, bled out, buried in back yard, put back in trunk for long enough for the smell to absorb in, then discarded. jmo


Obi, I've been thinking that same thing the whole time.

[Claudia]

Claudia..............honey..............your AV is just wrong on so many levels. I'm having a tough time keepin my lunch down every time I see it.

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Do I need to change it? I don't want to make anyone puke...

[Audie]

am i missing something, I thought it was cindy who made the 911 call?She did but on the 3rd one she hands the phone to Casey.

[ReddCurrlz]

Wow! 2 hours! I'm sure they showed the high lights last night though.
Last night was a live interview IIRC

and btw, all the transcripts, in case you weren't aware, are updated daily, and are located here (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6922)

Wasn't sure if ya'll knew that. If we miss some, let me know and I'll drop it in.:hifive:

[awakening2lite]

8/5/08

EXCERPT (LKL transcript)

KING: Today, state prosecutors filed formal charges against the 22-year-old mother of the missing two-year-old girl in central Florida. The mother, Casey Anthony, was charged with child neglect -- that's a third-degree felony -- and filing a false statement, which is a misdemeanor. She's held on bond, 500,000 dollars. That's the bail and those same charges since last month have been set and carried on. Her two-year-old daughter Caylee went missing in mid-June, wasn't reported until July 15th. Standing by at the Anthony home is Adam Longo, a reporter for WKMG TV, and in Orlando is Holly Gagne. Holly is a family friend of the Anthony's, has known the family for years. Casey Anthony, in fact, used to babysit her three boys and she's helping in the search for Caylee. Adam, what's the latest? Is there any chance of bail being posted?

ADAM LONGO, WKMG-TV: That is a chance at this point, Larry, because now that the state attorney's office has moved forward filed these formal charges, the defense in this case certainly has another opportunity to represent its case as far as why 22-year-old Casey Anthony, the client in this case, should have reduced bond. There had been some talk up to this point about appealing an initial bond hearing that happened several weeks ago, appealing it to the Florida State Supreme Court because it already went through an appellate court. That remains in limbo right now because these charges have been filed, Larry.

KING: What's the latest on the DNA testing, the stain in the car, the hair samples? Any results back yet?

LONGO: No, Orange County sheriff's detectives say they're still waiting for those results to come back. And interesting enough, if I can go back to the fact that the charges were filed today. It may seem counter-intuitive, but the defense and the Anthony family is actually saying that this is a victory, because they're saying the state attorney's office clearly doesn't have enough evidence to pursue any higher charges in this case. And they are convinced that this could bring Casey home sooner rather than later.

KING: Holly, you know Casey very well. She used to babysit your boys. What do you make of this?

HOLLY GAGNE, ANTHONY FAMILY FRIEND: There's a lot of confusion, Larry. And, you know, I have answered the question so many times that I just say that the Casey that I knew that babysat my children and that has been in my home and we've been friends with for six years would not harm her child or be a part of her child being harmed in any way.

KING: So you're totally shocked?

GAGNE: That is putting it lightly. That is putting it lightly, yes. When my husband and I had gotten home from our vacation and we heard the news, we went straight to Cindy and George's home, which we were their neighbors for over three years. And I just fell into Cindy's arms and I said, what is going on? And she said, you know, at that time we just don't know. There's been so many twists and turns, Larry, that, you know -- and there's so many scenarios. But in my mind and in my opinion, a scenario that she harmed her child, that she hurt her child, that she knows her child is not alive and she's torturing her parents and putting us all through this, I don't believe that.

KING: Adam, reporter, supposedly photographs have surfaced of Casey Anthony at a nightclub, reportedly taken several days after her daughter disappeared. A freelance camera man says they were taken on June 20th. Where has that gone?

LONGO: Well, Cindy Anthony herself, Larry, has said a lot of people have come out of the woodwork. Being in the media, a lot of people have come out of the woodwork. Until somebody can prove to me beyond -- make it conclusive that these photos were actually taken on the date that they said they were taken on -- that hasn't been proven to my -- I wouldn't go on with confirmation of that right now, Larry. I wouldn't be comfortable in doing that. That's still hanging out there right now.

KING: Adam, thanks for outstanding reporting. Holly will be back with us and we'll have other guests as well. This intriguing case gets more intriguing daily. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CINDY ANTHONY, CAYLEE's GRANDMOTHER: I just found out that they did charge her formally today, which actually is a good thing because of what they charged her with. They didn't charge her with anything but voluntary child neglect and withholding evidence. If they had anything concrete on her, I think they would have used that today.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Holly Gagne remains with us, the family friend. In Pittston, Pennsylvania is Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky, forensics expert and professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Here in Los Angeles, a familiar face, Mark Geragos, the well-known defense attorney. And in Miami, Stacy Honowitz, assistant Florida state attorney. Dr. Kobilinsky, DNA tests on the stain, the hairs found, et cetera -- do you think DNA is going to crack this case?

DR. LAWRENCE KOBILINSKY: It very well might, Larry. I think with any DNA test you need to be able to compare the question sample against an exemplar. I think during the second search of the home, the crime scene investigators recovered several items. And I think the reason why they went there was to gain an exemplar or a pseudo- exemplar of Caylee's DNA. Now they should be able to compare that with the DNA in that stain and know if it was Caylee or not.

KING: Now, Stacy, did prosecutors have to charge her?

STACY HONOWITZ, ASSISTANT FLORIDA STATE ATTORNEY: Yes, well, everybody was -- yes, well, everybody was flipping out, saying they didn't have enough time and she was going to walk. The bottom line was they had 21 days to charge her, and then they had 33. The max they could do was 40 days. It wasn't a matter of never charging her. It was just a matter of releasing her on her own recognizance. The state could always come back and charge her with information.

Now formal charges are pending, and I'm sure, probably, they're going to move for another bond reduction. That's going to be the next move.

KING: Mark, this is not a homicide case.

MARK GERAGOS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Not yet, hopefully not. But I agree with the grandmother who was on there. Short of dismissing and releasing her, getting charged, at least now she can apply for a bail reduction, potentially get out. I'm sure they can do some kind of a property bond and she could walk out the door. For a while here, it was somewhat ridiculous, I think, to have held her basically without bail and not do anything. And so at least at this point they can move forward. Her lawyers can see what they've got.

KING: Holly, do you think the public has convicted the mother?

GAGNE: Oh, Larry, everyday and twice on Sunday. Yes, they're showing these pictures over and over and over again. And Larry, I want to make a point. They're saying she's out clubbing and partying while her child was missing. However, if you were to look at the report, there's a tip from Jesse, a former boyfriend, that says he might have heard Caylee on the phone on June 26th, 24th, or 27th. So the time line is all messed up.

How can we think she's out clubbing, you know, and not caring about her daughter when someone says they heard her talking to her daughter at the end of June? You know, let's not crucify this girl, you know, until we know what's going on. And it's just not fair. It just is not fair and the media's taken it and they've run with it and they've just -- all you hear about is Casey, Casey, Casey, but the tips or things that are positive, you just hear a snip-it.

GERAGOS: While she's talking -- while she's talking, they're putting the pictures up there. We have no idea when those pictures were taken, yet they're being shown.

KING: That's like a pre-conviction, right?

(CROSS TALK)

KING: What else, Stacy?

GERAGOS: It's all of this she doesn't act right evidence. What about real evidence?

HONOWITZ: No, no, no, it's not just the pictures. That came after the fact. When you hear all of these conversations that she's had with her parents, with the police officers in the jail. Never once, as I mentioned before, has she ever mentioned trying to find this child. The public's crucifying her because they can't believe that this mother --

GAGNE: Can I comment on that, Larry?

GERAGOS: Once again, Stacy, it's she doesn't act right evidence, and that's an awful thing. It's become almost endemic for prosecutors and for people in general to say there's a certain way you've got to act. There was a woman in San Diego recently, Stacy, that you know, who was convicted on the doesn't act right evidence and the conviction was vacated. It turned out the guy wasn't even murdered.

HONOWITZ: Mark, I didn't say anything about murdering this child. I'm saying do you think, honestly, that this mother is acting rationally?

GERAGOS: Whether she's acting --

(CROSS TALK)

KING: One at a time.

GAGNE: Larry, I would like to comment on.

GERAGOS: Whether she's acting rationally or acting bizarre doesn't mean all of sudden -- That doesn't jump to murder.

KING: Holly, you want to say something? A little comment from the doctor.

GAGNE: Yes, I'd like to jump in real quick. They're not airing the phone call with her father or the interview with her father on Sunday where she was crying the entire time. They're not showing you the entire phone recording. They're showing you a snip-it to say, look at this mother. Just because you're acting irrational doesn't mean you killed your child, put her in the trunk of your car and --

HONOWITZ: I never accused her of murder at all.

GAGNE: I'm telling you what the media's saying and what they're saying down here.

KING: Doctor Kobilinsky, is this a rare case, from your standpoint?

KOBILINSKY: I wouldn't say so. Larry, it's a very circumstantial case. But as a criminalist I would say follow the evidence. You've got to see what the stain tells you. You've got to see whether the hair is postmortem. And you've got to follow the cell phone records, the phone records, and any other kind of evidence that will give us the entire picture.

KING: We've not heard the last of this, obviously. Holly and Dr. Kobilinsky, thank you. Mark Geragos and Stacy Honowitz remain. We'll be joined by Judge Alex Ferrer and Ed Smart. For more information, by the way, go to HelpFindCaylee.com. If Casey Anthony knows where her daughter is, why doesn't she just say so? Maybe some answers coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: Mark Geragos and Stay Honowitz remain with us. We're joined in Salt Lake City by Ed Smart. His daughter Elizabeth abducted from her home in 2002, found alive nine months later. And in Miami, Judge Alex Ferrer, the host of TV's "Judge Alex." Judge, do you ever judge anyone based on their actions? JUDGE ALEX FERRER, "JUDGE ALEX": Well, yes, everybody judges people based on their actions. In this case, this case is sadly similar to the Drew Peterson case. There isn't evidence of any wrongdoing, in the sense of the child being murdered or sold or given away or anything like that. But the reactions of the mother are completely different from what you would expect or what the public would expect from a mother who loses her two-year-old child, to go a month without reporting it? In fact, the mother didn't report it. The grandmother did.

So immediately while the system of justice will presume her innocent and wait to see where the evidence goes, the public is not that kind. The public looks at it and goes, something's wrong here. And something is wrong here. It's just a question of whether the evidence will lead to it.

KING: Ed Smart, what do you make of this case?

ED SMART, FATHER OF ELIZABETH SMART: I would love to hear from the mother. I really haven't heard her comments, her explanation. And I think that's really important to try and get some credibility on the subject. You know, the parent, I think when your child is missing, you would do anything. You would cooperate. You would try to, you know, give them any information possible to try and help find where your daughter is. And, you know, I'm anxious to hear what the mother has to say.

KING: With us on the phone is the grandmother, Cindy Anthony. The obvious question, Cindy, everyone asks, why won't your daughter talk?

CINDY ANTHONY, GRANDMOTHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: Well, Casey's maintained that she's protecting Caylee, and she's also protecting the family from physical harm. We believe that 100 percent. The reason I called in, I spoke to Nancy, is I had a question for Doctor Kobilinsky. He made a comment -- because I'm kind of intrigued when asking the authorities about what constitutes decomposition, things like that. He talked about check and see if the hair samples postmortem. I just want to know how can you determine a hair that's fallen off of someone's head, is it postmortem or is it just a hair that's fallen off on a normal thing, maybe shedded on clothes, and will sit there and decompose?

KING: Good question. Dr. Kobilinsky has left, but Stacy Honowitz might be able to answer it. Is there a difference?

HONOWITZ: Well, you know, hair transfers all the time, but I guess the forensics person would really be able to tell you whether or not there is a difference. Obviously, if he made that distinction early on, there is an ability for them to analyze it. He would not have said it if it wasn't the truth. They're able to make a distinction as to whether or not it's a transfer or --

GERAGOS: I'll tell you, my experience with the hairs and with this postmortem, there's a lot of courts that believe that's junk science. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that. ANTHONY: Thank you. That's kind of what I'm wondering. We were also told that, you know, sweat cells, old blood, urine, those can also be used for DNA purposes. But my question is, how long, you know, is that something, because I know that car has had lots of hairs from all of our family. That's been a family car for at least seven or eight years.

KING: Hold it, Cindy, he's going to answer you.

GERAGOS: Cindy, actually the one thing they can do with hair with some degree of certainty is what's called mitochondrial DNA, which goes through the maternal line. They can take a sample of your hair and they could then --

ANTHONY: That just proves that its Caylee's hair, or Casey's hair or my hair or my son's hair, whoever's hair. But does that prove that that hair follicle fell off an article of clothing that was placed in the trunk, or did that fall off of a body that was placed in the trunk?

GERAGOS: They're never going to be able to prove, even if they find a hair that's in there.

ANTHONY: Then that's circumstantial evidence.

GERAGOS: That's all it is.

KING: Cindy, do you have any doubt? Are you convinced your granddaughter is alive?

ANTHONY: I'm absolutely 100 percent convinced she's alive or at least was alive when Casey gave her to the person she gave her to.

KING: Stay with us one more minute, Cindy. We'll be right back with Ed Smart, Judge Ferrer, Mark Geragos, Stacy Honowitz and Cindy Anthony. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOSE BAEZ, CINDY ANTHONY'S LAWYER: We're not asking for immunity on anything because she doesn't know anything. She doesn't know where the child is.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: We have a time limitation. Cindy, were you going to talk to your daughter today?

ANTHONY: I had a scheduled visit for her for 1:00 and I changed my mind early in the morning not to go.

KING: Any reason?

ANTHONY: Yes, because we never know when those video recordings are going to be released and, you know, the thing is, I have to figure out which is more important right now, me seeing my daughter or protecting Caylee. And right now, Casey is in a place where I know she's protected, Caylee's not. So what I have to do is make sure that I protect my granddaughter.

KING: Is Caylee about to have a birthday?

ANTHONY: Yes, on Saturday.

KING: She'll be what?

ANTHONY: Three.

KING: Three. Can she get a fair -- can we have a fair trial out of this, judge?

FERRER: Oh, absolutely. You know, we have had much more high profile cases than this, and the defendants get a completely fair trial. It's all a matter of jury selection. And if the jury selection does not render a fair and impartial jury, then you move the location of the trial. I remember when O.J. Simpson was aired -- his Bronco chase was aired all over the world. The joke used to be, knock, knock, who is there? OJ. OJ who? Welcome to the jury. They thought the trick was finding somebody who never heard of OJ. But that's not true. It can be done. More publicity makes it difficult.

KING: Ed Smart, you might have a little sympathy for the mother in that during the time your mother was missing there were accusations about you.

SMART: There were accusations. I think that we tried to do everything we could to answer those accusations, and to change the focus from -- away from us back onto Elizabeth. And I think that's what needs to happen. So much time is being spent focusing on the mother that, you know, it's just sad to see the attention go away from where it needs to be.

KING: Mark, this is a puzzlement, is it not?

GERAGOS: It's puzzling. It's strange. But at the same time, as Ed says, he spent a lot of time trying to meet the accusations and there were wild accusations about Ed at the time. But she's in a different position. She's behind bars. She's fighting for her liberty. That makes it entirely different. The calculation of her defense lawyer is entirely different than the calculation that Ed had while he was out.

KING: A prosecutor here, Stacy, is searching for the truth or anxious to convict?

HONOWITZ: Searching for the truth. That's what our job is. I know Mark's probably cracking up. I can't see the monitor, but I know he's probably laughing at that. That's the bottom line. The thing is, she holds the key to everything. Everyone is accusing her and being, you know, cross with her because she's the only one that knows. And if you listen from day one, the statements are so inconsistent that nobody can get a grasp on why she just won't say here's where my child is. That's all that matters.

source: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/05/lkl.01.html

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Do I need to change it? I don't want to make anyone puke...

LOL Claudia funny av, but a bit, ummmm, disturbing.

Mom got me a birthday card with this gorgeous man on the front of it leaning against a hot car and it said "What we're looking for" and you open it up and there's THAT guy leaning up against a big black muddy 4x4 and it says "what's lookin' for us" LMAO :67302:

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"And I know one thing for sure is that, you know, Casey is determined that she’s going to protect Caylee until the end. If it costs her — you know, her being behind bars the rest for life, she’s going to protect Caylee."


Oh please. :rolleye0001:

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WOW!!! I spoke to Amanda at Sawgrass Apartments. After asking her the question about how long they keep the guest cards on file, her voice lowered and she said, "whom am I speaking too?" So I told her my name and she said, they keep the cards on file in the office for a year then keep them for 7 years in storage.

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oh wow a2l I missed that one - didn't realize LKL had them on last night too

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"And I know one thing for sure is that, you know, Casey is determined that she’s going to protect Caylee until the end. If it costs her — you know, her being behind bars the rest for life, she’s going to protect Caylee."


Oh please. :rolleye0001:
How absurd, so Cindy is OK with Caylee just living with strangers forever?

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Do I need to change it? I don't want to make anyone puke...

I try not to look and at a glance I tell myself it's just a hot air balloon.