Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #18

[Faith]

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Information Threads (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146)
Caylee discussion thread #1 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702)
Caylee discussion thread #2 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6849)
Caylee discussion thread #3 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6866)
Caylee discussion thread #4 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6888)
Caylee discussion thread #5 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6912)
Caylee discussion thread #6 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6927)
Caylee discussion thread #7 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6947)
Caylee discussion thread #8 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6978)
Caylee discussion thread #9 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7002)
Caylee discussion thread #10 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7025)
Caylee discussion thread #11 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7047)
Caylee discussion thread #12 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7059)
Caylee discussion thread #13 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7079)
Caylee discussion Thread #14 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7101)
Caylee discussion thread #15 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7123)
Caylee discussion thread #16 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7158)
Caylee discussion thread #17 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7175)

[ReddCurrlz]

wow 1000th and first

[sciencegirl]

Present and accounted for............:000a1:

[sciencegirl]

Does anyone know what Lee does for a living?? I heard him say the other day he was on a leave of absence; while he does the investigation that LE is unable to do :rolleye0001:

[chambord]

I hear Casey has denied Cindy and George's visit tonight. First Cindy postpones one of her visits and Casey then cancels two. Is this becoming a match of who just is in control?

[awakening2lite]

Emyo
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I'm skeptical because it is Cindy leading us to that thought.

Me too. Something happened to Caylee while Casey was out waiting on the house to move in to with Amy. Don't think it happened at home. I do find it curious that while Casey was openly planning to move in with Amy, per myspace comments, that George and Cindy had no idea. Something is up with that, imho.

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I totally agree with you Emyo. Something is very suspicious about it.

Cindy wants us to conclude it was an accident, which benefits Casey. imo

[Emyo]

Does anyone know what Lee does for a living?? I heard him say the other day he was on a leave of absence; while he does the investigation that LE is unable to do :rolleye0001:

He has a job that makes him travel a lot.
Can't remember where or what he does.
His girlfriend is Mallory and she was there the night of the first phonecall home from Casey in jail. Mallory seems like a normal person :cool:

[awakening2lite]

Here's something I have been wondering. I hope to get an answer.

Was the description Cindy gave on the 911 call the same as the description George gave when asked what was Caylee wearing?

Did Cindy tell the operator what Caylee was wearing or did she first ask Casey and then rely that info to the operator? Anyone remember?

[Faith]

Turn FOX News on-

[Emyo]

Here's something I have been wondering. I hope to get an answer.

Was the description Cindy gave on the 911 call the same as the description George gave when asked what was Caylee wearing?

Did Cindy tell the operator what Caylee was wearing or did she first ask Casey and then rely that info to the operator? Anyone remember?

I don't think they asked what Caylee was wearing. Just what the car thief was wearing. They also asked if the car thief had any weapons.

[sciencegirl]

I hear Casey has denied Cindy and George's visit tonight. First Cindy postpones one of her visits and Casey then cancels two. Is this becoming a match of who just is in control?

Yes; she did. Fox announced that about a half hour ago or so. I think Casey is just being controlling.

[sciencegirl]

He has a job that makes him travel a lot.
Can't remember where or what he does.
His girlfriend is Mallory and she was there the night of the first phonecall home from Casey in jail. Mallory seems like a normal person :cool:

Thank you. Lee seems to be the "normal" one of the entire group. Yet, if it was my sister; I would have beaten the carp out of her by now and she would be facing life in prison for the murder of her child. Yup!!! guess I would be a mean sister.:parting:

[Faith]

Here's something I have been wondering. I hope to get an answer.

Was the description Cindy gave on the 911 call the same as the description George gave when asked what was Caylee wearing?

Did Cindy tell the operator what Caylee was wearing or did she first ask Casey and then rely that info to the operator? Anyone remember?

That was on different days wasn't it? IIRC George gave description for June 24.

Cindy did tell what Casey was wearing, I will look at the transcript.

Am I understand you correctly?

[Emyo]

Thank you. Lee seems to be the "normal" one of the entire group. Yet, if it was my sister; I would have beaten the carp out of her by now and she would be facing life in prison for the murder of her child. Yup!!! guess I would be a mean sister.:parting:

Yep, the carp, the haddock and the tuna.

[awakening2lite]

I don't think they asked what Caylee was wearing. Just what the car thief was wearing. They also asked if the car thief had any weapons.

Thanks Emyo, that refreshes my memory.

I'd like to compare the initial missing person report with the description Casey gave to the description George gave when he last saw Caylee.

[Faith]

This is for Casey, not Caylee.

Dispatch: What color uh shirt is she wearing?

Cindy: White.

Dispatch: What color pants?

Cindy: Ohh, they’re shorts. There umm, plaid. They’re like pink and teal and white and black. Plaid.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showpost.php?p=306218&postcount=167

[Emyo]

That was on different days wasn't it? IIRC George gave description for June 24.

Cindy did tell what Casey was wearing, I will look at the transcript.

Am I understand you correctly?


I think there is a description on the missing poster because I remember reading about the white sunglasses.

[awakening2lite]

That was on different days wasn't it? IIRC George gave description for June 24.

Cindy did tell what Casey was wearing, I will look at the transcript.

Am I understand you correctly?

It would be interesting to compare the descriptions of the last time George saw Caylee and the description Casey provided to LE, don't you think?

[sunstar]

Does anyone know what Lee does for a living?? I heard him say the other day he was on a leave of absence; while he does the investigation that LE is unable to do :rolleye0001:

I heard he's an account manager or something like that. No link! :shrug1:

[sunstar]

Turn FOX News on-

I just saw the report. Cindy admits that Casey might be trying to get back at her for not visiting last week. Other commentary that it's not good when an inmate refuses family visits.

[awakening2lite]

This is for Casey, not Caylee.

Dispatch: What color uh shirt is she wearing?

Cindy: White.

Dispatch: What color pants?

Cindy: Ohh, they’re shorts. There umm, plaid. They’re like pink and teal and white and black. Plaid.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showpost.php?p=306218&postcount=167

That's what Cindy described Casey wearing.

I'm interested in comparing the description George gave when he recalled the last time he saw Caylee and the description Casey gave to LE of what Caylee was wearing the last time she saw her.

[Faith]

Greta's transcript for Friday 8/8/ will not be ready until Monday. (that's usually how it works) I searched yesterday for Friday's transcript and it wasn't there.

[sciencegirl]

Greta's transcript for Friday 8/8/ will not be ready until Monday. (that's usually how it works) I searched yesterday for Friday's transcript and it wasn't there.

Oh; thank you. I really want to read that . :happy0207:

[Emyo]

I just saw the report. Cindy admits that Casey might be trying to get back at her for not visiting last week. Other commentary that it's not good when an inmate refuses family visits.


Sounds like Casey is feeling sorry for herself. Maybe trying to punish her parents for where she is. Definately, Casey is trying to hurt her parents more by this latest action. Unfortunately, George and Cindy are hurting more. they seemed deflated. It makes me really sad. I can't hardly imagine the pain. It is all too sad.

[Faith]

It would be interesting to compare the descriptions of the last time George saw Caylee and the description Casey provided to LE, don't you think?

I'm not certain that I've read what Caylee's last description was given by Casey. Don't think I've read anything about that. I do recall George saying something but I would have to listen to the interview again.

[Emyo]

That's what Cindy described Casey wearing.

I'm interested in comparing the description George gave when he recalled the last time he saw Caylee and the description Casey gave to LE of what Caylee was wearing the last time she saw her.


I do remember reading somewhere what Caylee was wearing. It is not on the missing poster. Should have been :frown: Right now I'm almost too disheartened to even look.

[sciencegirl]

Sounds like Casey is feeling sorry for herself. Maybe trying to punish her parents for where she is. Definately, Casey is trying to hurt her parents more by this latest action. Unfortunately, George and Cindy are hurting more. they seemed deflated. It makes me really sad. I can't hardly imagine the pain. It is all too sad.

Here's what bothers me. Orlie on Fox just said that Cindy and Lee were doing normal things around the house.

You couldn't keep me in that house if my granddaughter was missing. I'd be out in my car going to malls, stores, pounding on houses in Tony's neighborhood, Amy's neighborhood, the apartment complex neighborhood. I'd be in my car driving to every single house that belonged to Gonzalez. I wouldn't care if I had to drive up and down the entire state.

But, then that's just me.

[chambord]

I heard he's an account manager or something like that. No link! :shrug1:

Lee's my space at one time listed his occupation as project mananger. That could be in construction. George is a security guard, Cindy, a nurse.

[Faith]

was it in the warrant where I read George gave the description of what Caylee was wearing??

[chambord]

Sounds like Casey is feeling sorry for herself. Maybe trying to punish her parents for where she is. Definately, Casey is trying to hurt her parents more by this latest action. Unfortunately, George and Cindy are hurting more. they seemed deflated. It makes me really sad. I can't hardly imagine the pain. It is all too sad.

Casey is a piece of work. She has put her parents thru months of anquish, refuses their visits, yells at Cindy on the phone, yet if her bond is reduced, she'll expect her parents to post bail for her, open their home up again for her, and life goes on for Casey. They should just cut her loose, and let her deal with her own situation, ALONE.

[Emyo]

My daughter was locked up, once. It was only for an extended weekend (Friday to Tuesday) , but it was bad. I was a mad woman. Totally crazy. When I went to the visit, I did not talk about why she was there. Only that I loved her.

I have had a problem with Casey's family trying to do the investigation, partly because of my experience. That is not their job. Casey has an attorney. It is his job. Period. I bet Baez has been spinning in circles with what the Anthony's have been doing. So, as bad as I feel for G & C & L they need to stop trying to interfere with the investigation and start loving Casey. Or not.

They can't have it both ways.

[Emyo]

was it in the warrant where I read George gave the description of what Caylee was wearing??

Yes

[Faith]

Yes

I just found it, it's on the last page of the warrant.

George said he last saw Caylee on June 6.

Caylee was wearing blue jean skirt and a pink top. Sunglasses, white trim, she had a backpack with designs of monkeys on it. her hair was in a ponytail.

Does this mean on August 4th George gave this statement?

[sunstar]

Sounds like Casey is feeling sorry for herself. Maybe trying to punish her parents for where she is. Definately, Casey is trying to hurt her parents more by this latest action. Unfortunately, George and Cindy are hurting more. they seemed deflated. It makes me really sad. I can't hardly imagine the pain. It is all too sad.

Right from the beginning it seems she's blamed her mom for her being in jail. If I were Cindy I wouldn't even waste my time wanting to see her. She's got her lawyer let him babysit the whiny spoiled brat! :girl_haha:

[Faith]

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[sunstar]

I just found it, it's on the last page of the warrant.

George said he last saw Caylee on June 6.

Caylee was wearing blue jean skirt and a pink top. Sunglasses, white trim, she had a backpack with designs of monkeys on it. her hair was in a ponytail.

Does this mean on August 4th George gave this statement?

Isn't it supposed to be June 16? Typos in a search warrant ~ unbelievable. :groan:

[chambord]

I just found it, it's on the last page of the warrant.

George said he last saw Caylee on June 6.

Caylee was wearing blue jean skirt and a pink top. Sunglasses, white trim, she had a backpack with designs of monkeys on it. her hair was in a ponytail.

Does this mean on August 4th George gave this statement?


Does this mean George didn't see Caylee on Father's day when Caylee was at the nursing home?

Was June 6th the day George said he saw Casey and Caylee come out of the bedroom with backpacks on around 2 pm? I'm getting confused with these dates.:francis:

[Faith]

My daughter was locked up, once. It was only for an extended weekend (Friday to Tuesday) , but it was bad. I was a mad woman. Totally crazy. When I went to the visit, I did not talk about why she was there. Only that I loved her.

I have had a problem with Casey's family trying to do the investigation, partly because of my experience. That is not their job. Casey has an attorney. It is his job. Period. I bet Baez has been spinning in circles with what the Anthony's have been doing. So, as bad as I feel for G & C & L they need to stop trying to interfere with the investigation and start loving Casey. Or not.

They can't have it both ways.

I agree, good post!! They are defending Casey at every angle. Big Mistake IMO.

[sciencegirl]

Isn't it supposed to be June 16? Typos in a search warrant ~ unbelievable. :groan:

I was just going to say the same thing. I wonder if that is a typo by LE. As George clearly said to Greta it was the 16th at 1:50. Also, they have Caylee on video on the 15th visiting her great grandpa

[chambord]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/august4.jpg

Thanks, today's earlier thread said the 16th.

[Faith]

Does this mean George didn't see Caylee on Father's day when Caylee was at the nursing home?

Was June 6th the day George said he saw Casey and Caylee come out of the bedroom with backpacks on around 2 pm? I'm getting confused with these dates.:francis:

I am confused again too b/c George JUST gave this statement on August 4th-- :groan:

On Aug 4th he KNEW the last time he saw Casey was the 6/24. B/C of the gas can issue. :francis:

[Faith]

I was just going to say the same thing. I wonder if that is a typo by LE. As George clearly said to Greta it was the 16th at 1:50. Also, they have Caylee on video on the 15th visiting her great grandpa

Even if it was a typo, George saw Casey on June 24 regarding the gas can issue.

[Faith]

It is impossible to make a timeline accurate.

[Faith]

Now I wonder IF George actually got the cans OUT of the car on July 15 (speculation).

[Emyo]

I am confused again too b/c George JUST gave this statement on August 4th-- :groan:

On Aug 4th he KNEW the last time he saw Casey was the 6/24. B/C of the gas can issue. :francis:


Nah, way early on one of the Anthony's in an interview said that they had seen Casey in person during the time that she was gone from the home. I swear, even though I do not have a link. It was an interview with C & G together, or maybe just G under the tent. It is Caylee that they haven't seen since the 16th, and Casey kept telling them that everything was okay.

[Emyo]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

[chambord]

Nah, way early on one of the Anthony's in an interview said that they had seen Casey in person during the time that she was gone from the home. I swear, even though I do not have a link. It was an interview with C & G together, or maybe just G under the tent. It is Caylee that they haven't seen since the 16th, and Casey kept telling them that everything was okay.

They reran Greta's interview again this afternoon, and again, I listened to George repeat his story about Casey coming home, and trying to prevent him, several times by going towards the car. He mentioned something about a tool he wanted to rotate Cindy's tires. He asked Casey if she had spoken to Cindy that day, and Casey said yes, around noon. Why the heck didn't George's meter go up when Caylee wasn't with her. Why didn't he later ask Cindy if she had heard from Casey that day? He didn't see any red flags?

[chambord]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

Again, why does George bring this up, if Caylee was safe and seen on Father's day.

Nothing George is saying is making sense.

[Pauli]

Just a reminder... please don't call anyone a murderer, no one has been charged/convicted.. you can have an opinion that someone may have done something, but you can't out-right call someone a murderer. That could cause us big problems.... please be careful what you say and refrain from calling names.. if it's not a fact, please state that it's your opinion.

Thanks

[sunstar]

Again, why does George bring this up, if Caylee was safe and seen on Father's day.

Nothing George is saying is making sense.

I was wondering the same thing. What difference does it make where Caylee was on June 12 if she was last seen by him on the 16th? :confused:

[Trailblazer]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/august4.jpg


IIRC ...I commented on that date..and we all assumed it was a typo and should have been 6/16/08

[sunstar]

Just a reminder... please don't call anyone a murderer, no one has been charged/convicted.. you can have an opinion that someone may have done something, but you can't out-right call someone a murderer. That could cause us big problems.... please be careful what you say.. if it's not a fact, please state that it's your opinion.

Thanks

I'm sorry, Pauli. :smile:

[Emyo]

They reran Greta's interview again this afternoon, and again, I listened to George repeat his story about Casey coming home, and trying to prevent him, several times by going towards the car. He mentioned something about a tool he wanted to rotate Cindy's tires. He asked Casey if she had spoken to Cindy that day, and Casey said yes, around noon. Why the heck didn't George's meter go up when Caylee wasn't with her. Why didn't he later ask Cindy if she had heard from Casey that day? He didn't see any red flags?

Well they know Casey better than we do. Evidently there was some goings on in the Anthony household during this time. My thought is that if nothing would have happened to Caylee on the 16th or there about, Casey would have been dropping her off off at the house just like usual. Specially on the weekends if Cindy wasn't working. But something bad did happen to Caylee and that is why Casey was staying clear of the house. I think Casey came and went as she pleased, no questions asked. They probably knew better than to question her, imho.

[Faith]

IIRC ...I commented on that date..and we all assumed it was a typo and should have been 6/16/08

I know, we I changed your post to the 16th.

[Emyo]

Again, why does George bring this up, if Caylee was safe and seen on Father's day.

Nothing George is saying is making sense.

Because at that time the date was the 9th :0009:

[awakening2lite]

I just found it, it's on the last page of the warrant.

George said he last saw Caylee on June 6.

Caylee was wearing blue jean skirt and a pink top. Sunglasses, white trim, she had a backpack with designs of monkeys on it. her hair was in a ponytail.

Does this mean on August 4th George gave this statement?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/august4.jpg

Check out how similar the descriptions are:

This is from the missing person flyer:
pink shirt
blue shorts
sunglass white rimmed

And the clothes he described Casey as wearing:

Gray pinstriped dress pants (believed to be the one's washed by Cindy)

I'm sure the typo is june 16th not the 6th
Does this strike a nerve with anyone else besides me?


white tennis shoes

[sciencegirl]

Check out how similar the descriptions are:

This is from the missing person flyer:
pink shirt
blue shorts
sunglass white rimmed

And the clothes he described Casey as wearing:

Gray pinstriped dress pants (believed to be the one's washed by Cindy)

I'm sure the typo is june 16th not the 6th
Does this strike a nerve with anyone else besides me?


white tennis shoes


It does strike me. There's no excuse for inaccuracies in a report; especially when dealing with a time-line. IMO

[chambord]

What's bugging me is I am now back to questioning the authenticity of the Father's day video being on the 15th. Cindy, at one time, mentioned the 8th, and then changed it when she remembered Father's day.

[sciencegirl]

What's bugging me is I am now back to questioning the authenticity of the Father's day video being on the 15th. Cindy, at one time, mentioned the 8th, and then changed it when she remembered Father's day.

Oh...you're right. You may be on to something. I would think that LE has confiscated that tape and the video recorder to see if the recorder was dated properly; wouldn't ya think.

[sciencegirl]

I've gotta run for the day. Nice chatting with all of you. :happy0207:

I really think LE has so much more evidence in this case that we cannot even imagine.

[Faith]

June 24 was on a Tuesday.

1) Casey talked to Jesse.
2) George reported the gas cans stolen.
3) Casey went home, George found the gas cans in her trunk.


What else happened on June 24?

[Faith]

What's bugging me is I am now back to questioning the authenticity of the Father's day video being on the 15th. Cindy, at one time, mentioned the 8th, and then changed it when she remembered Father's day.

You have always questioned this video. You may be correct too.

[Faith]

From Burglary Report


On 06/24/2008, at approximately 1037 hours, I responded to 4937 Hopespring Dr in reference to a burglary to a
structure (storage shed). Upon arrival, I met with the victim, George Anthony, who relayed the following:


On 06/22/2006, between approximately 1800 and 1000 hours

06/24/2008, unknown suspect(s) entered his
shed. This resulted in damage to the lock and the door The suspect(s) then removed the following items: 2 gas
cans with about $50.00 worth of gas in them.

The victim stated that the shed was secured and no one had permission to enter or remove property. The victim
estimated the total value of items taken to be $ 50.00 and the damage to be $ 50.00.

The victim gave a sworn written statement and wishes to testify and prosecute. The items stolen were not
entered into teletype as stolen due to the fact that the victim could not provide serial numbers for the items.

I examined the crime scene and found the following: The shed door and the lock to the door were damaged
and where the victim said his gas cans were is now empty. I attempted to dust for the presence of latent
fingerprints and did not any latents. I provided the victim with a victim's rights pamphlet and a case card. At this
time, there have been no witnesses or suspects located.

[Emyo]

You have always questioned this video. You may be correct too.

I think LE has established the 15th as the day that Caylee was with Cindy at the home. The confusion I think is that Casey left with Caylee ( and probably no reason) the week before to move in with Amy, which didn't happen. That is verified by comments on myspace.

[awakening2lite]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

I just found it, it's on the last page of the warrant.

George said he last saw Caylee on June 6.

Caylee was wearing blue jean skirt and a pink top. Sunglasses, white trim, she had a backpack with designs of monkeys on it. her hair was in a ponytail.

Does this mean on August 4th George gave this statement?

Check out how similar the descriptions are:

This is from the missing person flyer:
pink shirt
blue shorts
sunglass white rimmed

And the clothes he described Casey as wearing:

Gray pinstriped dress pants (believed to be the one's washed by Cindy)

I'm sure the typo is june 16th not the 6th
Does this strike a nerve with anyone else besides me?


white tennis shoes

Further information: She was last seen on June 9, 2008 in the Orlando, Florida area. Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts, and white sneakers.
source: http://beonthelookoutfor.com/html/modules.php?name=missing&idd=130

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Ok, so she is on the missing person flyer, George's report, and in a spoting wearing the same clothes at different times.

WHAT is going on???

[Faith]

I think LE has established the 15th as the day that Caylee was with Cindy at the home. The confusion I think is that Casey left with Caylee ( and probably no reason) the week before to move in with Amy, which didn't happen. That is verified by comments on myspace.

Thanks- I do know the comments established a timeline for Casey. However, I would question LE taking Cindy's word for June 15th. I would like to know if they went to the nursing home and confirmed it was said date.

However, Casey stated on July 15 that she hasn't seen Caylee in 31 days so that would place the accurate of June 16 which is also when George stated he last saw Caylee.

[sunstar]

From Burglary Report


On 06/24/2008, at approximately 1037 hours, I responded to 4937 Hopespring Dr in reference to a burglary to a
structure (storage shed). Upon arrival, I met with the victim, George Anthony, who relayed the following:


On 06/22/2006, between approximately 1800 and 1000 hours

06/24/2008, unknown suspect(s) entered his
shed. This resulted in damage to the lock and the door The suspect(s) then removed the following items: 2 gas
cans with about $50.00 worth of gas in them.

The victim stated that the shed was secured and no one had permission to enter or remove property. The victim
estimated the total value of items taken to be $ 50.00 and the damage to be $ 50.00.


And didn't George also say one can held about 2-1/2 gallons and the other one 1 gallon? Geez, gas in Florida must really be expensive! :girl_haha:

[Faith]

Further information: She was last seen on June 9, 2008 in the Orlando, Florida area. Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts, and white sneakers.
source: http://beonthelookoutfor.com/html/modules.php?name=missing&idd=130

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Ok, so she is on the missing person flyer, George's report, and in a spoting wearing the same clothes at different times.

WHAT is going on???


Strange, very strange.

[Faith]

And didn't George also say one can held about 2-1/2 gallons and the other one 1 gallon? Geez, gas in Florida must really be expensive! :girl_haha:

I know, unbelieveable. I actually think he said on Greta 2 gal and 1 and a quart. :thud2:

:0009:

[awakening2lite]

It sounds a lot like George may have been repeating what was already out there, as far as a clothing description for Caylee. I'm referring to his description of her clothing on the last day he says he saw her, June 16th

Does it sound that way to any of you?

[Emyo]

Further information: She was last seen on June 9, 2008 in the Orlando, Florida area. Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts, and white sneakers.
source: http://beonthelookoutfor.com/html/modules.php?name=missing&idd=130

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Ok, so she is on the missing person flyer, George's report, and in a spoting wearing the same clothes at different times.

WHAT is going on???

I wonder wear this link got the description of the clothes :confused: The Caylee update for the OCSO says unknown.

[sunstar]

Further information: She was last seen on June 9, 2008 in the Orlando, Florida area. Caylee was last seen wearing a pink shirt, jean shorts, and white sneakers.
source: http://beonthelookoutfor.com/html/modules.php?name=missing&idd=130

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Ok, so she is on the missing person flyer, George's report, and in a spoting wearing the same clothes at different times.

WHAT is going on???

I'm completely confused too. I still can't figure out the discrepancy from June 9 to June 16, like how Father's Day got completely forgotten about initially.

[chambord]

You have always questioned this video. You may be correct too.

I know, I'm like a dog with a bone. LOL..I just think something as signficent as Father's Day visit would be something Cindy would remember, yet it took her several days to change her earlier date. How does the time line work, if the Father's Day video is pushed back to the previous Sunday?

[sunstar]

I know, unbelieveable. I actually think he said on Greta 2 gal and 1 and a quart. :thud2:

:0009:

I think you're right. 2 gallon can and 1+ gallon can. It still doesn't add up to the contents of the cans equalling $50.00. :thud2:

[Faith]

It sounds a lot like George may have been repeating what was already out there, as far as a clothing description for Caylee. I'm referring to his description of her clothing on the last day he says he saw her, June 16th

Does it sound that way to any of you?

Yes, it sounds that way to me. - that's also supposedly the date Casey last saw Caylee too. (31 days)

[Faith]

I know, I'm like a dog with a bone. LOL..I just think something as signficent as Father's Day visit would be something Cindy would remember, yet it took her several days to change her earlier date. How does the time line work, if the Father's Day video is pushed back to the previous Sunday?

Oh gosh I would never get that correct. :shrug1: these dates are so messed up.

[awakening2lite]

I wonder wear this link got the description of the clothes :confused: The Caylee update for the OCSO says unknown.

Probably from the initial info given out by the family, is my guess.
I checked the OCSO first and then searched missing person sites.

My reason was the June 12th sighting of her wearing the same clothing George described on the Greta interview this past week. So, how could that be? How could someone call in a sighting on June 12th with Caylee wearing the clothes George doesn't describe until Aug?

There was more than one missing person site with the clothing described by George and the sighting on June 12th.

It seemed obvious, to me, the people who called in a sighting on June 12th had read one of the missing person site descriptions. Now, it's starting to dawn on me that George gave that same description of her wearing those clothes on June 16th in his interview with Greta in Aug.

Something is wrong!

[Jute]

Does anyone know what Lee does for a living?? I heard him say the other day he was on a leave of absence; while he does the investigation that LE is unable to do :rolleye0001:

He is an account manager, a generic title that could be many things.

[Madhatter]

I think you're right. 2 gallon can and 1+ gallon can. It still doesn't add up to the contents of the cans equalling $50.00. :thud2:

Maybe it's the cost of the gas + the cost of the cans + the cost of the damaged lock? Thats the only thing I can imagine . . .

[Jute]

I brought this over from the last thread.

Originally Posted by awakening2lite
I'm skeptical because it is Cindy leading us to that thought.

Originally Posted by sciencegirl
That's true. But why would Cindy plant that particular thought? It would be the only conclusion that one could reach by that statement.

If Cindy knows or suspects that Casey was involved in Caylee's death, an accidental death (accidental drowning) would - at least in her mind - have lesser consequences for Casey. IMO

[:+:MrTT:+:]

...........can someone tell me please..........how close this road is........the the area of the home..........thankyou.......the childs home............]Florida State Road 856

[sunstar]

Maybe it's the cost of the gas + the cost of the cans + the cost of the damaged lock? Thats the only thing I can imagine . . .

That's what I was thinking after catching that in the report, but it's not written up that way. :shrug1:

[chambord]

According to the Time line up thread.

Casey's moves in with Amy on June 9th Monday

Christine is sure Caylee and Casey went for a walk with her on June 12th Thursday

Casey's car is abandoned on Fri. June 27th

July 4th, Casey is having a cookout/party Friday


If the 15th Father's Day appearance is pushed back to Sunday June 8th.

This still works.

[awakening2lite]

That's what I was thinking after catching that in the report, but it's not written up that way. :shrug1:

Here's a thought. What is the minimum value the LE will write up for a report?

[sunstar]

...........can someone tell me please..........how close this road is........the the area of the home..........thankyou.......the childs home............]Florida State Road 856

Isn't that down in the Miami-Dade Co. area, about 188 mi. from the parents' home?

[Madhatter]

That's what I was thinking after catching that in the report, but it's not written up that way. :shrug1:

I agree, it's not very clear.:shrug1:

[sunstar]

Here's a thought. What is the minimum value the LE will write up for a report?

That could be it! :smile:

[awakening2lite]

I'm completely confused too. I still can't figure out the discrepancy from June 9 to June 16, like how Father's Day got completely forgotten about initially.

June 9th was originally given as the last day Cindy saw Casey and Caylee. Then it changed to the June 16th because they found the Father's day images with Caylee and her GGfather.

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Isn't that down in the Miami-Dade Co. area, about 188 mi. from the parents' home?

hm, perhaps that is not it......to far perhaps.....i was thinking it was closer.........or more in a direct line, to there from the house.........thanks for responding

[Faith]

Maybe it's the cost of the gas + the cost of the cans + the cost of the damaged lock? Thats the only thing I can imagine . . .

The way I understand it the total cost is $100

[Jute]

I just saw the report. Cindy admits that Casey might be trying to get back at her for not visiting last week. Other commentary that it's not good when an inmate refuses family visits.

One of the psychologists who looked at this case speculated that at some point, Casey make slip into depression and that would be the point where she might be "broken." She recently had the high of a new BF, his friends, the social life that went with him; now she's been the focus of nation-wide attention for a couple of weeks. I wonder if all news coverage ceasing, or decreasing to a trickle, might not nudge her toward that depression - it would be a huge low after being so high for the past two months or so.

[sunstar]

hm, perhaps that is not it......to far perhaps.....i was thinking it was closer.........or more in a direct line, to there from the house.........thanks for responding

I Googled it before replying to your post and that's what came up. SR-856 being in the Miami area. :smile:

[Jute]

I just saw the report. Cindy admits that Casey might be trying to get back at her for not visiting last week. Other commentary that it's not good when an inmate refuses family visits.

Do you know in what sense it's not good? A bad sign of the inmate's frame of mind or might be seen as negative behavior? Thanks.

[sunstar]

One of the psychologists who looked at this case speculated that at some point, Casey make slip into depression and that would be the point where she might be "broken." She recently had the high of a new BF, his friends, the social life that went with him; now she's been the focus of nation-wide attention for a couple of weeks. I wonder if all news coverage ceasing, or decreasing to a trickle, might not nudge her toward that depression - it would be a huge low after being so high for the past two months or so.

Would that finally make her break down and confess the truth though? :shrug1:

[sunstar]

Do you know in what sense it's not good? A bad sign of the inmate's frame of mind or might be seen as negative behavior? Thanks.

No, I just posted what the reporter said.

[Jute]

Sounds like Casey is feeling sorry for herself. Maybe trying to punish her parents for where she is. Definately, Casey is trying to hurt her parents more by this latest action. Unfortunately, George and Cindy are hurting more. they seemed deflated. It makes me really sad. I can't hardly imagine the pain. It is all too sad.

I realize that Casey is an extreme case, but I hope that there are parents of young kids/teens who may be reading about this case and seeing what their rolling over every time their kid looks at them cross-eyed can do. I learned the hard way and would never wish it on another parent - and my daughter was just a brat who never harmed anyone except herself. And her parents. :madranting94dp:

My daughter and I have had some interesting discussions about this case and she feels the same way.

[Jute]

Here's what bothers me. Orlie on Fox just said that Cindy and Lee were doing normal things around the house.

You couldn't keep me in that house if my granddaughter was missing. I'd be out in my car going to malls, stores, pounding on houses in Tony's neighborhood, Amy's neighborhood, the apartment complex neighborhood. I'd be in my car driving to every single house that belonged to Gonzalez. I wouldn't care if I had to drive up and down the entire state.

But, then that's just me.

No it's not, SG. :021: I think everyone here, and any logical parent, would be doing exactly as you would. :friends3:

[chambord]

Monday June 9th Casey supposidly moves in with Amy
Thurs. June 12, a walk with Christine, Caylee, Casey
Fri. June 13, DJ says he sees Caylee at Tony's
Sun. June 15, Casey picks Amy up at airport
Fri. June 27, Car abandoned and White Party at Fusion.

How could Casey pick Amy up at airport if she was at the Father's Day event?

[Faith]

One of the psychologists who looked at this case speculated that at some point, Casey make slip into depression and that would be the point where she might be "broken." She recently had the high of a new BF, his friends, the social life that went with him; now she's been the focus of nation-wide attention for a couple of weeks. I wonder if all news coverage ceasing, or decreasing to a trickle, might not nudge her toward that depression - it would be a huge low after being so high for the past two months or so.

Break to whom tho? Baez? I don't think he will allow her to talk or would he if she wants to?

[Jute]

Casey is a piece of work. She has put her parents thru months of anquish, refuses their visits, yells at Cindy on the phone, yet if her bond is reduced, she'll expect her parents to post bail for her, open their home up again for her, and life goes on for Casey. They should just cut her loose, and let her deal with her own situation, ALONE.

She'd also expect them to help her with any scheme she might come up with to try to outsmart LE. :mad:

[Faith]

Monday June 9th Casey supposidly moves in with Amy
Thurs. June 12, a walk with Christine, Caylee, Casey
Fri. June 13, DJ says he sees Caylee at Tony's
Sun. June 15, Casey picks Amy up at airport
Fri. June 27, Car abandoned and White Party at Fusion.

How could Casey pick Amy up at airport if she was at the Father's Day event?

July 15 Casey picks Amy up at the airport, not June.

[Jute]

My daughter was locked up, once. It was only for an extended weekend (Friday to Tuesday) , but it was bad. I was a mad woman. Totally crazy. When I went to the visit, I did not talk about why she was there. Only that I loved her.

I have had a problem with Casey's family trying to do the investigation, partly because of my experience. That is not their job. Casey has an attorney. It is his job. Period. I bet Baez has been spinning in circles with what the Anthony's have been doing. So, as bad as I feel for G & C & L they need to stop trying to interfere with the investigation and start loving Casey. Or not.

They can't have it both ways.

Emyo - I've know a number of parents whose kids were locked up for a weekend as teens. In most cases, the parents took it as a giant red flag that it was time to become the parent. Some of the tactics I saw used were truly unique. :smile: No physical harm but they sure got the kids attention. :67302:

On the other hand, there was a boy who went to my daughter's HS, he was arrested as a sophmore - mom told him he didn't do anything wrong, it was a plot. :madranting94dp: He would up in adult prison when he was 17.

[chambord]

July 15 Casey picks Amy up at the airport, not June.

Yikes. Thanks for the correction.

[Jute]

Thanks- I do know the comments established a timeline for Casey. However, I would question LE taking Cindy's word for June 15th. I would like to know if they went to the nursing home and confirmed it was said date.

However, Casey stated on July 15 that she hasn't seen Caylee in 31 days so that would place the accurate of June 16 which is also when George stated he last saw Caylee.

Didn't LE look at the date on some photos taken on 6/15 and stored on the Anthony's computer? That's what led to Cindy changing the date of the video being taken.

[Jute]

And didn't George also say one can held about 2-1/2 gallons and the other one 1 gallon? Geez, gas in Florida must really be expensive! :girl_haha:

If Lee and Casey were both stealing gas from them, maybe he just got fed up and reported it. :0009:

[Jute]

According to the Time line up thread.

Casey's moves in with Amy on June 9th Monday

Christine is sure Caylee and Casey went for a walk with her on June 12th Thursday

Casey's car is abandoned on Fri. June 27th

July 4th, Casey is having a cookout/party Friday


If the 15th Father's Day appearance is pushed back to Sunday June 8th.

This still works.

Didn't Casey live with Tony for awhile? The original story was wrong - it reported June 9 until her arrest - but it seems she was there for at least a short time. Or maybe not. :67302:

[Jute]

Would that finally make her break down and confess the truth though? :shrug1:

The scary thing is that, depending on what is actually going on in her head, she may not know where Caylee is - at least not on the surface. She may be so far in la-la land about her new life that she's just let it drift. (Another psych. mentioned this - wasn't saying she is insane, just nuts.)

[Jute]

Break to whom tho? Baez? I don't think he will allow her to talk or would he if she wants to?

I wish I could find the article. It was written by a woman who has studied women killers, not someone interviewed on tv or who has seen her. I will try but I just can't recall where I read it. She didn't specify who she would talk to, only that this would be the time when Casey might be most vulnerable.

[Faith]

Yikes. Thanks for the correction.

NP, these dates and names are tongue twisters.

[Jute]

Do I have bad breath? :blondblush113268230

[sunstar]

If Lee and Casey were both stealing gas from them, maybe he just got fed up and reported it. :0009:

I think so too.

[sunstar]

Do I have bad breath? :blondblush113268230

No, I should after just having dinner of garlic bread with salad!! :girl_haha:

[Audie]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.From your link, what is this? Never heard that. Typo?

July 12: After they had not seen Caylee for some time, the girl's grandparents got concerned and confronted Casey, convincing her to go to the sheriff's office.

[Faith]

I wish I could find the article. It was written by a woman who has studied women killers, not someone interviewed on tv or who has seen her. I will try but I just can't recall where I read it. She didn't specify who she would talk to, only that this would be the time when Casey might be most vulnerable.

Are you talking about the one LLL posted the other day?

[awakening2lite]

Didn't LE look at the date on some photos taken on 6/15 and stored on the Anthony's computer? That's what led to Cindy changing the date of the video being taken.

Here's a video of Cindy talking about how she took the video of Caylee on Father's day, the last time Cindy saw Caylee and George talking about how the 16th of June was the last time he saw Caylee with Casey as they left the house.

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2963775&referralPlaylistId=df5603c3d11ca9a023b0070cfc5f297 e279fd3a7

[Jute]

No, I should after just having dinner of garlic bread with salad!! :girl_haha:

Now I'm hungry - that sounds so good! :000a1:

[Trailblazer]

Monday June 9th Casey supposidly moves in with Amy
Thurs. June 12, a walk with Christine, Caylee, Casey
Fri. June 13, DJ says he sees Caylee at Tony's
Sun. June 15, Casey picks Amy up at airport
Fri. June 27, Car abandoned and White Party at Fusion.

How could Casey pick Amy up at airport if she was at the Father's Day event?

She picked up Amy on July 15th

[Jute]

From your link, what is this? Never heard that. Typo?

I think it's a typo - there's no reference to LE on 7/16.

[Trailblazer]

Do I have bad breath? :blondblush113268230

Hi Jute...now why would you think that????

[Jute]

Are you talking about the one LLL posted the other day?

Maybe. :smile: Do you recall if the woman is a professor or something on that order? If she is, I'll start digging here rather than on google. :girl_haha:

[Faith]

July 31, 2008
ID Exclusive: Criminal Profiler Calls Casey Anthony "Dark Damsel"

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showpost.php?p=333537&postcount=306

[Jute]

Hi Jute...now why would you think that????

I'm always behind on my reading, so my posts are also late - and they tend to run in clumps - look at the series above. I was kidding. :friends3:

[sunstar]

Now I'm hungry - that sounds so good! :000a1:

I could make you some! :wink: I haven't been watching the news today, is Geraldo on tonight?

[Jute]

July 31, 2008
ID Exclusive: Criminal Profiler Calls Casey Anthony "Dark Damsel"

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showpost.php?p=333537&postcount=306

Thank you, Faith! This is it. You are absolutely fantastic. :11_2_104:

However, there is, according to Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, a way to break her.

"The strain of the current situation will wear on those around her and pressure her to explain her behavior. Because she cannot explain her lies, she will blame everyone else. She will want to flee. She may even reach for religion as a means to cope, and depression is likely to follow. Then police will be able to talk with her to find out what she really knows. Detectives will be able to get information from her. The key for officers is to know her patterns and approach her the right way. If they key in on her personality, they will be able to get her to tell what really happened."

[Jute]

I could make you some! :wink: I haven't been watching the news today, is Geraldo on tonight?

Yes - at 7 my time. :67302: I'm sorry, I've become confused by the cable time-zone issue. I think that this would be 10 Eastern.

[chambord]

July 31, 2008
ID Exclusive: Criminal Profiler Calls Casey Anthony "Dark Damsel"

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showpost.php?p=333537&postcount=306

That is an excellant article. Thank You.

[sunstar]

Yes - at 7 my time. :67302: I'm sorry, I've become confused by the cable time-zone issue. I think that this would be 10 Eastern.

That's what I thought. I just looked at Fox News and something else was on so I thought it might be 10pm. :smile:

[Audie]

They reran Greta's interview again this afternoon, and again, I listened to George repeat his story about Casey coming home, and trying to prevent him, several times by going towards the car. He mentioned something about a tool he wanted to rotate Cindy's tires. He asked Casey if she had spoken to Cindy that day, and Casey said yes, around noon. Why the heck didn't George's meter go up when Caylee wasn't with her. Why didn't he later ask Cindy if she had heard from Casey that day? He didn't see any red flags?That's the only thing new that I got out of GVS's "Cops and Cases" that I watched today. (paraphrasing) That when she showed up at the house on June 24, George told Casey that he was going to rotate Cindy's tires and he needed the wheel chalk out of her car trunk. According to G she wasn't too keen on him getting in her car. She kept saying she would get it, and G kept insisting that he would all of the way to the car. G had another set of keys, but I forget which key he actually used. Probably his. That's when he saw the gas cans. I think, in the interview, either Geo or Cindy said that there was no smell.

[Jute]

That is an excellant article. Thank You.

I think it's fascinating! I know that many of you have had the sad experience of posting on other cases like this, but I'm new to it - this article is shocking but it does start to explain, or at least explore, some of the behaviors that I have never been understood simply by reading news articles about cases.

[awakening2lite]

That's the only thing new that I got out of GVS's "Cops and Cases" that I watched today. (paraphrasing) That when she showed up at the house on June 24, George told Casey that he was going to rotate Cindy's tires and he needed the wheel chalk out of her car trunk. According to G she wasn't too keen on him getting in her car. She kept saying she would get it, and G kept insisting that he would all of the way to the car. G had another set of keys, but I forget which key he actually used. Probably his. That's when he saw the gas cans. I think, in the interview, either Geo or Cindy said that there was no smell.

In this interview George says he thinks the gas cans were stolen the 22nd or the 23rd.
He reports them stolen on the 24th
Casey shows up on the 24th with the gas cans in her trunk

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2963763&referralPlaylistId=df5603c3d11ca9a023b0070cfc5f297 e279fd3a7

[ReddCurrlz]

...........can someone tell me please..........how close this road is........the the area of the home..........thankyou.......the childs home............]Florida State Road 856

you might try looking at the maps that have been posted in the maps thread; there might be something there that you're looking for? but on wikipedia this is what they said:

Florida State Road 856

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jump to: navigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_856#column-one), search (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_856#searchInput)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Florida_856.svg/70px-Florida_856.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Florida_856.svg) State Road 856
Length: 1.3 mi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile) (2 km (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilometre)) East end: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Florida_A1A.svg/20px-Florida_A1A.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Florida_A1A.svg) Collins AVE. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1A) in Sunny Isles Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Isles_Beach%2C_Florida) West end: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/US_1.svg/20px-US_1.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_1.svg) Biscayne Boulevard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscayne_Boulevard) in Aventura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventura%2C_Florida) Florida State and County Roads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Roads_in_Florida) < http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Florida_852.svg/25px-Florida_852.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Florida_852.svg) SR 852 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_852) SR 858 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Road_858) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Florida_858.svg/25px-Florida_858.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Florida_858.svg) > Also known as the William H. Lehman Causeway, State Road 856 is a 1.3-mile-long causeway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway) connecting Biscayne Boulevard (U.S. Route 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1_%28Florida%29)/SR 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Road_5_%28Florida%29)) in Aventura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventura%2C_Florida) and Collins Avenue (SR A1A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Road_A1A_%28Florida%29)) in Sunny Isles Beach, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Isles_Beach%2C_Florida). Named after William H. Lehman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lehman_%28Florida_politician%29), a member of the United States House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) who was instrumental in obtaining Federal construction funds for the high-rise bridge, the Lehman Causeway is the most recent addition to Miami-Dade County’s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County%2C_Florida) set of causeways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway) crossing Biscayne Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscayne_Bay) and the Intracoastal Waterway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intracoastal_Waterway).
State Road 856 is also a limited access highway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_access_highway) with one exit featuring Texas U-turns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_U-turn) near its midpoint. The exit (onto West Country Club Drive) provides access to and from Aventura Mall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventura_Mall), one of Florida’s largest enclosed shopping centers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_center). Next to the Intracoastal Waterway, high-rise condominiums (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condominium) are on the land near SR 856 in both Aventura and Sunny Isles Beach.

[awakening2lite]

From your link, what is this? Never heard that. Typo?

Remember the original report of Caylee being missing on June 9th? (later chg'd by Cindy)

EXCERPT

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

June 9: Casey Anthony said that on June 9, she dropped Caylee off at a babysitter who lived at the Sawgrass Apartments. She said the babysitter's name was Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.

source: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html
published 8/10/08

[Audie]

I'm completely confused too. I still can't figure out the discrepancy from June 9 to June 16, like how Father's Day got completely forgotten about initially.I remember Cindy saying something like (paraphrasing again) that she was going to visit the GGF every Sunday, around that time. And she had gotten her weekends mixed up.

Now I don't remember if she said that she knew that it was FD and thought FD was June 8 or that she thought that particular visit was the weekend before FD.

I think it was George's father that they visited on FD, correct?

[Audie]

Maybe it's the cost of the gas + the cost of the cans + the cost of the damaged lock? Thats the only thing I can imagine . . .I first thought that 2 full five gal cans might be worth $50. $4 per gal x 10 gals = $40. Plus 2 cans at approx 5 bucks each. But not a 2.5 and a 1.25 gal.

I just read at the beginning of this thread or end of the last, from a report that G said $50 gas and damage $50. I think the police report from June 24.

[awakening2lite]

I wonder wear this link got the description of the clothes :confused: The Caylee update for the OCSO says unknown.

More references to the clothing:

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=1100742&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1100742&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
http://www.blogher.com/have-you-seen-caylee-anthony
http://inherthoughts.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/do-you-know-where-caylee-anthony-is/
http://beonthelookoutfor.com/html/modules.php?name=missing&idd=130
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cci9PLTkUaE&feature=related

It should also be noted all the above report her missing 6/9/08

That means these were composed before Cindy made the discovery of the Father's Day images of Caylee and her GFather and the date was moved to 6/16 when George last saw Caylee and Casey leave the house together.

This means someone gave the clothing description: pink shirt, jeans short, white sneakers, white rimmed sunglasses before George reported them in Greta's interview and before any of them realized they still had Caylee on Father's Day and the Day after.

It is also worthy to note that George reports on June 12 (3 days after the initial WRONG report of Caylee being missing on June 9) that family friends saw Caylee in a mall wearing the same clothes. What is strange? She wasn't missing then.

[Audie]

According to the Time line up thread.

Casey's moves in with Amy on June 9th Monday

Christine is sure Caylee and Casey went for a walk with her on June 12th Thursday

Casey's car is abandoned on Fri. June 27th

July 4th, Casey is having a cookout/party Friday


If the 15th Father's Day appearance is pushed back to Sunday June 8th.

This still works.I think the 27th is the day, but remember that the car may have been abandoned sooner. June 27 is the first day that the employee remembers seeing it, iirc.

And Casey and Caylee were living with C and G between the 8th and the 15th, I believe.
jmo

[awakening2lite]

Here's a video of Cindy talking about how she took the video of Caylee on Father's day, the last time Cindy saw Caylee and George talking about how the 16th of June was the last time he saw Caylee with Casey as they left the house.

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2963775&referralPlaylistId=df5603c3d11ca9a023b0070cfc5f297 e279fd3a7

I remember Cindy saying something like (paraphrasing again) that she was going to visit the GGF every Sunday, around that time. And she had gotten her weekends mixed up.

Now I don't remember if she said that she knew that it was FD and thought FD was June 8 or that she thought that particular visit was the weekend before FD.

I think it was George's father that they visited on FD, correct?

Video concerning Father's day

[chambord]

Remember the original report of Caylee being missing on June 9th? (later chg'd by Cindy)

EXCERPT

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

June 9: Casey Anthony said that on June 9, she dropped Caylee off at a babysitter who lived at the Sawgrass Apartments. She said the babysitter's name was Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.

source: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html
published 8/10/08

There's that dang June 9th date again. No wonder I question the Fathers Day video. Are both Casey and Cindy confused. Or am I?

[Audie]

In this interview George says he thinks the gas cans were stolen the 22nd or the 23rd.
He reports them stolen on the 24th
Casey shows up on the 24th with the gas cans in her trunk

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2963763&referralPlaylistId=df5603c3d11ca9a023b0070cfc5f297 e279fd3a7I know, a2l. I was just telling George's explanation of what exactly happened with Casey on th 24th. I had never heard this or seen it posted.

[Jute]

There's that dang June 9th date again. No wonder I question the Fathers Day video. Are both Casey and Cindy confused. Or am I?

The reason Cindy changed the date was because the detective who testified at Casey's first hearing (Yuri??) noticed that the date on photos from the same day was 6/15, not 6/8. Cindy then agreed - and went into a very detailed explanation about why she made the error. She'd been seeing her father most weekends, she'd seen him on 6/8 and simply got confused.

Two points:
1. the date on cameras is often wrong
2. Cindy talked a great deal in order to explain the change in date. :0009::0009:

I've always questioned the change in date, too. FWIW. :parting:

[Audie]

Remember the original report of Caylee being missing on June 9th? (later chg'd by Cindy)

EXCERPT

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

June 9: Casey Anthony said that on June 9, she dropped Caylee off at a babysitter who lived at the Sawgrass Apartments. She said the babysitter's name was Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.

source: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html
published 8/10/08I'm talking about July 12, a2l. It must be a typo. Or did I miss something?

July 12: After they had not seen Caylee for some time, the girl's grandparents got concerned and confronted Casey, convincing her to go to the sheriff's office.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html

[awakening2lite]

I know, a2l. I was just telling George's explanation of what exactly happened with Casey on th 24th. I had never heard this or seen it posted.

I hope you will have a chance to review it.

There are some interesting things coming out about George.

I'm even more concerned about the truthfulness of all the Anthonys.

[Jute]

I think the 27th is the day, but remember that the car may have been abandoned sooner. June 27 is the first day that the employee remembers seeing it, iirc.

And Casey and Caylee were living with C and G between the 8th and the 15th, I believe.
jmo

Who had Caylee while Casey was doing all that partying at Fusion? If the date was the 27, wouldn't Casey have taken her to G and C's?

[awakening2lite]

I'm talking about July 12, a2l. It must be a typo. Or did I miss something?



http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/17/caylee_marie_anthony_disappearance_timeline.html


Yes, the July 12th report is a questionable type. However, I have seen that reported several times in articles. It has to be an error if the 911 report is correct and, (I am reluctant to say this) if Cindy is truthful in saying they picked up the car from the tow company, searched it, called Amy, located Casey, drove around, and then called 911. If all that is true, the 12th can't be right.

[Lilly]

hm, perhaps that is not it......to far perhaps.....i was thinking it was closer.........or more in a direct line, to there from the house.........thanks for responding


Mr . TT: You can get George and Cindys street address on whitepages.com
Then you can go to mapquest.com and map directions from their address to anywhere. It's pretty accurate.

[Emyo]

Who had Caylee while Casey was doing all that partying at Fusion? If the date was the 27, wouldn't Casey have taken her to G and C's?


Casey was at the Fusian every Friday in June (except maybe the 27th). The first two Fridays (6th and 13th) I would bet Caylee was at home. After the 16th it seems that Caylee was with the nanny :0001:. Would like G & C to verify that though. Hopefully they have with Baez or LE.

[awakening2lite]

Not that I completely believe this, but it does seem the Anthony's are snug as bugs in this whole thing. I can't get over all the deception from them and here, a little tiny baby girl is missing. I getting suspicious of all them now.

How in world does one become confused about the last time they saw a missing child? (We aren't talking about years have passed, we're talking about days and weeks). I don't get it.

They obviously gave a report of what the child was wearing when she was last scene. (Initially they gave June 9 as the day she was missing).

After she is reported missing on June 9th (reported to LE on the 15th/16th of June) George receives a report from family friends of Caylee being spotted in a Mall on June 12th wearing the same clothing as were described in the initial report (the report with the wrong date of June 9th and the child was not missing then)

But it isn't until an Aug interview with Greta, Geoge is able to not only remember the exact date, but the exact time of day (12:50pm)

I don't think I can be the only one seeing a problem with this.

[mollybrown]

Looks like NOW Caylees pets are being upset. :groan:

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/frontdoor.jpg

From the front door of the Anthony home......

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Mr . TT: You can get George and Cindys street address on whitepages.com
Then you can go to mapquest.com and map directions from their address to anywher:6u8ky2o:e. It's pretty accurate.

.........thank-you, i will try.......i just felt there may be a connection, to that road......and the girl in jail......having a reason to travel down that road.......as if she knows someone down on that road........but perhaps not..........thank-you for replying though......very much appreciated

[annalyzer]

Who had Caylee while Casey was doing all that partying at Fusion? If the date was the 27, wouldn't Casey have taken her to G and C's?
Casey had to have made phone calls to her sitter in those months she claims Zanny was her sitter. LE should have her phone records. Wonder what's going on with that.

[Lilly]

I remember Cindy saying something like (paraphrasing again) that she was going to visit the GGF every Sunday, around that time. And she had gotten her weekends mixed up.

Now I don't remember if she said that she knew that it was FD and thought FD was June 8 or that she thought that particular visit was the weekend before FD.

I think it was George's father that they visited on FD, correct?

I apologize if this has been said already. During the Greta interview Cindy did say that she went every sunday to see her Dad. She said she got the date mixed up because she related the last she saw Caylee with the last day of her vacation. I can kinda understand this. For me, if I don't know to mentally mark a date (like when I tryto remember the actual date of when my son has come home for the weekend), I'll count back and think about whats went on lately. I think forgetting in only a few weeks is strange, but if you don't know a date will be important and you do the same thing every Sunday, it's explainable and could be the truth from Cindy. Once LE mentioned Father's Day, she might have said "oh yeah, it wasn't my vacation, but Father's Day" both would be time markers for remembering. JMOO :)

[Lilly]

Not that I completely believe this, but it does seem the Anthony's are snug as bugs in this whole thing. I can't get over all the deception from them and here, a little tiny baby girl is missing. I getting suspicious of all them now.

How in world does one become confused about the last time they saw a missing child? (We aren't talking about years have passed, we're talking about days and weeks). I don't get it.

They obviously gave a report of what the child was wearing when she was last scene. (Initially they gave June 9 as the day she was missing).

After she is reported missing on June 9th (reported to LE on the 15th/16th of June) George receives a report from family friends of Caylee being spotted in a Mall on June 12th wearing the same clothing as were described in the initial report (the report with the wrong date of June 9th and the child was not missing then)

But it isn't until an Aug interview with Greta, Geoge is able to not only remember the exact date, but the exact time of day (12:50pm)

I don't think I can be the only one seeing a problem with this.

Oh, good point a2L.. how can he remember the exact time of day, but mess up the date. While I can understand how Cindy might have gotten her weekends mixed up, I can't understand why it took LE pointing out the Father's Day video for her to remember it. If it was me and my H, we'd be wracking our brains and making sure we had the date right.. we'd want to KNOW when the last time was that we saw our child/grandchild. It would make more sense if they came up with a story together and decided on the wrong date, and then got caught in a lie by LE. I mean.. I might forget, but someone in our family would say wait a minute.. wasn't it a week later? Someone would remember.

[sunstar]

Looks like NOW Caylees pets are being upset. :groan:

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/frontdoor.jpg

From the front door of the Anthony home......

I didn't realize the dogs and cat were Caylee's, or are there other pets inside we haven't seen? :shrug1:

[annalyzer]

Looks like NOW Caylees pets are being upset. :groan:

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/frontdoor.jpg

From the front door of the Anthony home......

My dogs would be if there were reporters camped outside all the time. Heck they would be if there were reporters out there just a few times. I wouldn't be able to stand it. The dogs would be barking constantly too.

[Audie]

Video concerning Father's dayI've listened to that interview, but I remember right after it was announced that the date had changed, she was explaining the reason to someone in the media, but not in a sit down interview like with Greta. Same basic explanation, but diff words.

[Lilly]

I didn't realize the dogs and cat were Caylee's, or are there other pets inside we haven't seen? :shrug1:


Distracting to the families focus on finding Caylee? Are they in the house meditating her home? :groan:

[mollybrown]

I didn't realize the dogs and cat were Caylee's, or are there other pets inside we haven't seen? :shrug1:

:0009::0009: Just posting what I've found. :blondblush113268230

[mollybrown]

My dogs would be if there were reporters camped outside all the time. Heck they would be if there were reporters out there just a few times. I wouldn't be able to stand it. The dogs would be barking constantly too.


Heck, I would send mine out and let those reporters FEED them for a few days. :67302:

[mollybrown]

Distracting to the families focus on finding Caylee? Are they in the house meditating her home? :groan:

Interupting their afternoon naps, because they are out all night posting fliers and combing the area where Casey "CLAIMS" she was at the time of the "KIDNAPPING" :groan:

[annalyzer]

Heck, I would send mine out and let those reporters FEED them for a few days. :67302:


My Rottie and my Pitt mix would probably eat the reporters. :71526:


:67302:

[awakening2lite]

Oh, good point a2L.. how can he remember the exact time of day, but mess up the date. While I can understand how Cindy might have gotten her weekends mixed up, I can't understand why it took LE pointing out the Father's Day video for her to remember it. If it was me and my H, we'd be wracking our brains and making sure we had the date right.. we'd want to KNOW when the last time was that we saw our child/grandchild. It would make more sense if they came up with a story together and decided on the wrong date, and then got caught in a lie by LE. I mean.. I might forget, but someone in our family would say wait a minute.. wasn't it a week later? Someone would remember.

He not only remembers the date and the time of day, exactly, he does so because he associates it with a Food Channel show he says he watches everyday before he goes to work.

Everyday before he goes to work, surely that is more repetitious than a routine sunday visit with GGdad at the nursing home.

I find it incredulous.

So far the only constant is the clothing Caylee was last seen wearing, which is also associated with George.

I only wish I could read the initial missing person report to see who gave the clothing description.

[Audie]

Who had Caylee while Casey was doing all that partying at Fusion? If the date was the 27, wouldn't Casey have taken her to G and C's?Well, we have to assume that Casey didn't have Caylee anymore, by the time the car was abandoned on June 27. I think it was decided, somehow, that Casey didn't go to the white party at Fusion on the 27th, iirc. jmo

[scout]

'evening all!

[mollybrown]

My Rottie and my Pitt mix would probably eat the reporters. :71526:


:67302:

My Standard Poodles would cover them with kisses, but they are my DOOR BELL. LOL

[awakening2lite]

'evening all!


evening scout :happy0207:

[mollybrown]

'evening all!

Hi Scout :party52:

[Lilly]

He not only remembers the date and the time of day, exactly, he does so because he associates it with a Food Channel show he says he watches everyday before he goes to work.

Everyday before he goes to work, surely that is more repetitious than a routine sunday visit with GGdad at the nursing home.

I find it incredulous.

So far the only constant is the clothing Caylee was last seen wearing, which is also associated with George.

I only wish I could read the initial missing person report to see who gave the clothing description.

why the heck doesn't he just say he doesn't remember what she was wearing? In their efforts to be consistent with the mistruths (cough), they're screwing it up.

[scout]

evening scout :happy0207:

..hi A2L! :happy0207:

[scout]

Hi Scout :party52:

.. hello Molly!:happy0207:

[mollybrown]

.. hello Molly!:happy0207:

How's the BEER? :67302:

[Audie]

I guess GR isn't going to talk about the case tonite.

[scout]

How's the BEER? :67302:

... went down just fine.. thank you..:smile:

[scout]

I guess GR isn't going to talk about the case tonite.

GR..?.. GR..?.. thinking.. thinking..:blondblush113268230

[Audie]

... went down just fine.. thank you..:smile::party52:

[awakening2lite]

why the heck doesn't he just say he doesn't remember what she was wearing? In their efforts to be consistent with the mistruths (cough), they're screwing it up.

Thank you, Lilly!

The more I consider the oddity the more it reeks like the trunk of Casey's car.

There is something very very wrong. It isn't just Casey. It's bigger. If the Anthony family is not involved they need to stop distracting the truth, stop translating Casey's lies, stop telling lies.

There is something more to this.

[mollybrown]

GR..?.. GR..?.. thinking.. thinking..:blondblush113268230

Sunday night, Geraldo Rivera? Just guessing, you know.....:71526:

[Audie]

Sunday night, Geraldo Rivera? Just guessing, you know.....:71526:Did I spell it right? Maybe this a repeat. I know NG is.

[sunstar]

:0009::0009: Just posting what I've found. :blondblush113268230

I appreciate the photo. I've seen the notes on the door but couldn't read them.

[sunstar]

I guess GR isn't going to talk about the case tonite.

He said he would but he has to talk about John Edwards first. :groan:

[awakening2lite]

Ok, I'm off for the night. Gosh, this place is addictive.

:happy0207:

Have fun!

[mollybrown]

I appreciate the photo. I've seen the notes on the door but couldn't read them.

I know what you mean I had to save it of "my pictures" and then enlarge it to see what was written. I guess they haven't gotten those asistants yet. :blondblush113268230

[Audie]

He said he would but he has to talk about John Edwards first. :groan:http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/index.html

:0009:

[mollybrown]

http://www.foxnews.com/geraldo/index.html

:0009:

Sad to say, after a day at work, I am all over the Olympic coverage and keeping abreast of NEW news from you guys. :zm10:

[Audie]

Sad to say after a day at work I am all over the Olympic coverage and keeping abreast of NEW news from you guys. :zm10:Just don't watch the news. They say who won before you get to see it. :madranting94dp:

[sunstar]

Ok, I'm off for the night. Gosh, this place is addictive.

:happy0207:

Have fun!

Good night! :happy0207: :love0081: I'll probably be off too as soon as Geraldo talks about Caylee.

[mollybrown]

Just don't watch the news. They say who won before you get to see it. :madranting94dp:

I wouldn't..... my news is on when I"M watching the televised coverage. :zm10:

[sunstar]

I know what you mean I had to save it of "my pictures" and then enlarge it to see what was written. I guess they haven't gotten those asistants yet. :blondblush113268230

Again, many thanks! :love0081: Geraldo's finally on the case. Orlando Salinas is talking about the rejected jail visit today. "Maybe it's based on me cancelling my appointment with her the other day" from Cindy.

[Faith]

Thank you, Lilly!

The more I consider the oddity the more it reeks like the trunk of Casey's car.

There is something very very wrong. It isn't just Casey. It's bigger. If the Anthony family is not involved they need to stop distracting the truth, stop translating Casey's lies, stop telling lies.

There is something more to this.

Yes, I agree with this. I've said this from the beginning. No tears from anyone. Cindy not pleading with Zanny to bring Caylee back, as Casey message to Zanny is, I forgive you, and will you, please return Caylee?'"

July 26, 2008

From behind bars, Cindy Anthony says her daughter told her, there is a threat against Caylee and the entire Anthony family and that's the reason she's been misleading or silent on the toddler’s whereabouts. Casey apparently wouldn't say what that threat was.

"We love you stay strong, keep telling people, this is not my mommy and i want to be back with momma, Ci Ci and uncle Lee."

July 26, 2008

"I asked her yesterday, while I spoke with her, 'Is there a message for this person?' And she said, 'Yes. I forgive you, and will you, please return Caylee?'"

Anthony also said her daughter had a message for her granddaughter: "Her message to Caylee is, 'Mommy loves you so much. Continue to be brave, because we know you are coming home to all of us. We love you dearly.'

[scout]

Ok, I'm off for the night. Gosh, this place is addictive.

:happy0207:

Have fun!



'night A2L!

[Faith]

Good Nite A2 :happy0207:

[sunstar]

Well that sure was a short report! :frown:

[mollybrown]

Well that sure was a short report! :frown:

On to the Mautak Monster (or how ever that's spelled) grrrrr:madranting94dp:

[Faith]

Well that sure was a short report! :frown:

I don't think there is anything to report. :shrug1:

[mollybrown]

WOW that's a great story about the Soviet MOM who went to Germany for her son's health (Luekimia) and is 33 YO and trying to qualify for the prelems.

opps wrong board ROFLAMO

[sunstar]

I don't think there is anything to report. :shrug1:

There really isn't since nobody got to visit with Casey today and we don't have the lab test results in yet! Oh well! :shrug1:

[sunstar]

WOW that's a great story about the Soviet MOM who went to Germany for her son's health (Luekimia) and is 33 YO and trying to qualify for the prelems.

opps wrong board ROFLAMO

No you're not o/t, just trying to make a comparison between her (good mom) and Casey (bad mom)!! :wink:

[ReddCurrlz]

WOW that's a great story about the Soviet MOM who went to Germany for her son's health (Luekimia) and is 33 YO and trying to qualify for the prelems.

opps wrong board ROFLAMO

ROFLMAO MB - :67302: but thanks for the lil update in the wrong thread:zm10:

[Faith]

There really isn't since nobody got to visit with Casey today and we don't have the lab test results in yet! Oh well! :shrug1:

I pray we have news tomorrow. The forensics would be a good start of the week.

[mollybrown]

No you're not o/t, just trying to make a comparison between her (good mom) and Casey (bad mom)!! :wink:


Well to be ON TOPIC LOL

She MADE IT. :zm10:

[sunstar]

I pray we have news tomorrow. The forensics would be a good start of the week.

They sure would be, one way or the other!

[Faith]

June 12: George Anthony says Caylee was spotted by friends of the Anthony family in a shopping area near the Orange-Seminole county lines. She was wearing a pink and blue outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses.

Who was Caylee supposedly with I wonder???

[Faith]

July 15: The Sheriff's Office is notified that Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 9.

does anyone know how the June 9th date got started? Cindy said on July 15, Caylee has been missing for a month. Casey said, Caylee had been missing for 31 days.

When I posted the very first article on July 17:

Authorities said Caylee Marie Anthony has been missing since June 9th. According to investigators her mother, Casey Marie Anthony

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702

The other articles I found followed the fist. :shrug1:

[sunstar]

I'm going to say goodnight and I hope everybody has a good day tomorrow! :happy0207: Prayers for Caylee!

[PinkPony]

July 15: The Sheriff's Office is notified that Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 9.

does anyone know how the June 9th date got started? Cindy said on July 15, Caylee has been missing for a month. Casey said, Caylee had been missing for 31 days.

When I posted the very first article on July 17:

Authorities said Caylee Marie Anthony has been missing since June 9th. According to investigators her mother, Casey Marie Anthony

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702

The other articles I found followed the fist. :shrug1:

Faith IIRC that is the date that Casey gave LE when the initial report was made.

I think Casey told LE thats she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass Apts on June 9th with the babysitter and when she returned from work Caylee and the babysitter were gone.

I'll see if I can find the info.

PP

[PinkPony]

I found it Faith. Redd posted it under Police Reports & Affidavits. Its the first post.
But that gets me to thinking..........didn't someone at Tony's apt. see Caylee and Casey on June 13th?


PP

[PinkPony]

And then of course there is Father's Day on June 15th and
George saying he saw them on June 16th.

This case has me so bumfuzzled:francis:

PP

[Claycat]

I found it Faith. Redd posted it under Police Reports & Affidavits. Its the first post.
But that gets me to thinking..........didn't someone at Tony's apt. see Caylee and Casey on June 13th?


PP

Hi PinkPony! I think that was the DJ from Fusian who lived with Tony.

[PinkPony]

Hi PinkPony! I think that was the DJ from Fusian who lived with Tony.

Thanks Claycat. There are so many players I couldn't remember for sure who said what.

PP

[Faith]

I'm going to say goodnight and I hope everybody has a good day tomorrow! :happy0207: Prayers for Caylee!

:happy0207: Nite SS

[Faith]

And then of course there is Father's Day on June 15th and
George saying he saw them on June 16th.

This case has me so bumfuzzled:francis:

PP

To add more Geoege saw only Casey on the 24th. :shrug1:

[Faith]

I am going to call it a night too. praying for results tomorrow.

Good Nite PP & anyone else still awake. :happy0207:

[PinkPony]

I am going to call it a night too. praying for results tomorrow.

Good Nite PP & anyone else still awake. :happy0207:

Nite Faith. Time for me to turn in also, hoping we get some good news tomorrow.


PP

[rowdy1225]

I am out of the country and looking for any news on this sad case.

[P.I.Jane]

Hi all! Here it is 3 am and I can't sleep. darn.

But, n-ne-ways, did you all see on Geraldo where his reporter said that Lee was checking Casey's cell calls and called the numbers for Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins? When the person answered the phone and it was Lee calling, they asked why Lee was calling them... both numbers stored in her phone under those names were actually to a neighbors house. :faintTHUD:

[Claudia]

I have 22 pages to read to catch up, but I wanted to say Good Morning to everyone!!!! Hope you all had a good weekend.

Faith, I'll have to tell you about the concert - I'll leave a message on your profile page.

:happy0207:

[SavannahStar]

I have 22 pages to read to catch up, but I wanted to say Good Morning to everyone!!!! Hope you all had a good weekend.

Faith, I'll have to tell you about the concert - I'll leave a message on your profile page.

:happy0207:

Hey Claudia! And good morning all! Well I am not caught up.....:groan: I go back to work today after a week off, a week that had me VERY busy with personal stuff. Hope to be on here later.

The fact that Casey is refusing to see family makes me think she is possibly at a break point....what do you think? I hope so. We NEED to have a real break in this case. It's driving me crazy!!!!!! :francis:

[Claudia]

Hey Claudia! And good morning all! Well I am not caught up.....:groan: I go back to work today after a week off, a week that had me VERY busy with personal stuff. Hope to be on here later.

The fact that Casey is refusing to see family makes me think she is possibly at a break point....what do you think? I hope so. We NEED to have a real break in this case. It's driving me crazy!!!!!! :francis:

I was thinking the same thing about her refusing visits. Wish I knew what was going on in that girl's head.

Have fun at work - maybe you'll get to relax some now. :girl_haha:

[Claudia]

Oh, and about the father's day visit... I had posted a while back a link to a report that said they had video surveillance of the visit. I'll try to find it.

[Trailblazer]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17154903/detail.html

Meanwhile, detectives are planning to use a new technique to examine evidence, officials with the Orange County Sheriff's Office said.


Wonder what kind of technique???

Oh an Good Morning everyone

[Trailblazer]

http://www.local6.com/news/17154890/detail.html

Psychic-Led Team 'Blind Driving' Central Fla. To Find Missing Girl

[LiveLaughLuv]

Good morning all.

I was watching part of NG last night.

The buzz around there is Casey disguised herself as this Zenaida person who was looking at the Sawgrass apartments. She filled out the quest card. The handwritting was very sloppy. The police are checking out this theory.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/08/06/ng.tot.mom.babysitter.wesh


The search for Caylee is being aided by a local business man and a local foundation. The reward is up to $125,000 and over 100,000 fliers have been donated. Also on Tuesday a mobile billboard from Kid Finders Network rolls into Orlando.

The family has set up a website at Helpfindcaylee.com

We are still hoping an accurate timeline can be created and places the child has been seen can be established. We hope to update this post with more information today.
http://www.missingabducted.com/2008/07/caylee-anthon-2.html

[chambord]

Good Morning Folks

I am amazed at the level of deceit Casey reached to keep whatever happened to Caylee forever hidden. She will never crack, never. Imagine, putting actual neighbors phone #'s along side her freinds names, and Lee ends up calling them and finds out how Casey tricked him.

[Trailblazer]

Good Morning Folks

I am amazed at the level of deceit Casey reached to keep whatever happened to Caylee forever hidden. She will never crack, never. Imagine, putting actual neighbors phone #'s along side her freinds names, and Lee ends up calling them and finds out how Casey tricked him.

Did Lee say that? Or was this rumor and speculation? Sorry I don't recall reading that...but doesn't mean it didn't happen...

[Harmony]

Good morning!!

From the search warrant:

On July 22nd, Detective Kraubetz CONFIRMED that Cynthia and Caylee had visited her father on JUNE 15 and the date on the photos WERE CORRECT.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17124703.pdf

[LiveLaughLuv]

POSTED: 6:00 am EDT August 11, 2008
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT August 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A psychic detective and her team are "blind driving" around Central Florida searching for missing Caylee Anthony.

"We will not even look at street names," psychic detective Gale St. John said. "We drive and go completely on feeling instinct, chasing down what we call a person signature."

St. John and her team arrived in Central Florida and immediately began using specially trained cadaver dogs to check areas on foot over the weekend near Lee Vista Road.

St. John, who is part of a group that calls themselves the "Body Hunters," has been on "Larry King Live," Court TV and the Discovery Channel after helping authorities recover missing children and finding at least one body.

She said she has not received a feeling on Caylee's location but claims it is still early in her searching process.

The team will be driving around the region on Monday. Another psychic will be helping in the search as well, Local 6 reported.


Air Tested

Meanwhile, Local 6 has learned that a lab affiliated with the University of Tennessee may be using a new type of technology to test air samples taken from the car of Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony.

Cadaver dogs led detectives to believe there were signs of decomposition in the trunk of Casey Anthony's vehicle and hit on two spots in the child's grandparents home early in the search for the missing girl.

The lab apparently testing the air samples, called The Body Farm, is run by the school's anthropology department.

A researcher at The Body Farm has developed an artificial nose of sorts that can sniff out evidence of human decomposition and decay.

It works by recognizing compounds found in the air where decomposition occurs.

Detectives won't confirm where the samples were transported to, but they said the air samples are being tested for decomposition.


Another Visit Rejected

Also over the weekend, Casey Anthony turned down another Orange County jail visit from her parents.

Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, said she was not sure why Casey canceled a visit.

"I'd like to see her but if she doesn't want to see us, that is her prerogative," Cindy Anthony said. "I'm sure she had her reasons. You always want to see your child but then again, I'm sure she had her reasons."
http://www.local6.com/news/17154890/detail.html

[chambord]

Did Lee say that? Or was this rumor and speculation? Sorry I don't recall reading that...but doesn't mean it didn't happen...

Lee told Craig Riveria that. It was on Geraldo's show last night. Lee called the two numbers and found they were the Anthony neighbors. They asked Lee, *why are you calling me*.

No link yet, but its been discussed on all the other boards. WS,IS. Not sure if Geraldo has a transcript up yet.

[scout]

I am out of the country and looking for any news on this sad case.

:hide:

[sciencegirl]

POSTED: 6:00 am EDT August 11, 2008
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT August 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A psychic detective and her team are "blind driving" around Central Florida searching for missing Caylee Anthony.

"We will not even look at street names," psychic detective Gale St. John said. "We drive and go completely on feeling instinct, chasing down what we call a person signature."

St. John and her team arrived in Central Florida and immediately began using specially trained cadaver dogs to check areas on foot over the weekend near Lee Vista Road.

St. John, who is part of a group that calls themselves the "Body Hunters," has been on "Larry King Live," Court TV and the Discovery Channel after helping authorities recover missing children and finding at least one body.

She said she has not received a feeling on Caylee's location but claims it is still early in her searching process.

The team will be driving around the region on Monday. Another psychic will be helping in the search as well, Local 6 reported.


Air Tested

Meanwhile, Local 6 has learned that a lab affiliated with the University of Tennessee may be using a new type of technology to test air samples taken from the car of Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony.

Cadaver dogs led detectives to believe there were signs of decomposition in the trunk of Casey Anthony's vehicle and hit on two spots in the child's grandparents home early in the search for the missing girl.

The lab apparently testing the air samples, called The Body Farm, is run by the school's anthropology department.

A researcher at The Body Farm has developed an artificial nose of sorts that can sniff out evidence of human decomposition and decay.

It works by recognizing compounds found in the air where decomposition occurs.

Detectives won't confirm where the samples were transported to, but they said the air samples are being tested for decomposition.


Another Visit Rejected

Also over the weekend, Casey Anthony turned down another Orange County jail visit from her parents.

Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, said she was not sure why Casey canceled a visit.

"I'd like to see her but if she doesn't want to see us, that is her prerogative," Cindy Anthony said. "I'm sure she had her reasons. You always want to see your child but then again, I'm sure she had her reasons."
http://www.local6.com/news/17154890/detail.html

I am troubled by the new air quality testing that is going on here. IMO, LE has not been able to confirm anything from the stain or hair found in the trunk. They obviously have no forensic evidence of any value if they are reaching this far to have an air quality test done.

[chambord]

Good morning!!

From the search warrant:

On July 22nd, Detective Kraubetz CONFIRMED that Cynthia and Caylee had visited her father on JUNE 15 and the date on the photos WERE CORRECT.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17124703.pdf

The warrant also had a typo, so a warrant isn't infallable. Also, dates of videos, and photos are not always accurate. Just saying, *smile*. They should have a computor expert exam that video.

[Trailblazer]

Lee told Craig Riveria that. It was on Geraldo's show last night. Lee called the two numbers and found they were the Anthony neighbors. They asked Lee, *why are you calling me*.

No link yet, but its been discussed on all the other boards. WS,IS. Not sure if Geraldo has a transcript up yet.

Thanks Cham...I didn't watch Geraldo...

[Harmony]

Lee told Craig Riveria that. It was on Geraldo's show last night. Lee called the two numbers and found they were the Anthony neighbors. They asked Lee, *why are you calling me*.

No link yet, but its been discussed on all the other boards. WS,IS. Not sure if Geraldo has a transcript up yet.

It is on the search warrant.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0807/17124703.pdf

[Kami]

:hide:

Good Mornin' Scout! :kissyface4: Was that Rowdy? :thud2:

[scout]

I am troubled by the new air quality testing that is going on here. IMO, LE has not been able to confirm anything from the stain or hair found in the trunk. They obviously have no forensic evidence of any value if they are reaching this far to have an air quality test done.

I AGREE.. ! ... EVERYTHING thing hinges on the results from that trunk IMO!!!!
We've heard nothing about the results and they should be in already.. right?

[scout]

Good Mornin' Scout! :kissyface4: Was that Rowdy? :thud2:

She's found us, Kami!!!!:71526:

... 'morning my friend!!! :kissyface4:

[Audie]

Fox News Phil Keating talking now about the anthony's just leaving their house towing a billboard.

[sciencegirl]

I AGREE.. ! ... EVERYTHING thing hinges on the results from that trunk IMO!!!!
We've heard nothing about the results and they should be in already.. right?

Yes; they should definitely be in by now. Even the evidence that was sent to the FBI. I'm thinking they came back inconclusive; therefore; they are seeking this new air quality technique to see if they should be looking for a body instead of a live Caylee. They would then be able to re-focus all of their energy either for a live Caylee or a body. JMO.

And yes; everything hinges on the evidence in the trunk. IMO.

[scout]

..ohhh God.. help me on this one people! Where did we hear that none of her cell phonecalls were made to Zenaida.. and none were received from Zenaida! I know I heard it.. and I can't remember where!!

http://www.wftv.com/news/17142154/detail.html


EXCERPT:

Channel 9 asked Cindy Anthony if she thinks Casey cancelled because she did not want to defend statements from a search warrant that claims she never received or made a cell phone call to Caylee's mystery babysitter Zenaida Gonzalez. She is the woman Casey claimed last had her daughter.

"I've got the phone records so I'm not so sure, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. I've not seen anything from the Sheriff's Department and they have not confirmed anything to that. I would like to see her, but what am I going to say. What am I suppose to say? That's her prerogative," Cindy said Sunday.

[Trailblazer]

Fox News Phil Keating talking now about the anthony's just leaving their house towing a billboard.


Oops missed it again..keep us updated...I'm busy setting up my new laptop LOL

[Audie]

Faith have you added the phone calls made July 15 on Casey's cell to your timeline? Incoming call from ex bf at about midnite (I think they said 12:15 am) and another call to or from "Kyle" about 3 pm.

[Trailblazer]

..ohhh God.. help me on this one people! Where did we hear that none of her cell phonecalls were made to Zenaida.. and none were received from Zenaida! I know I heard it.. and I can't remember where!!

http://www.wftv.com/news/17142154/detail.html


EXCERPT:

Channel 9 asked Cindy Anthony if she thinks Casey cancelled because she did not want to defend statements from a search warrant that claims she never received or made a cell phone call to Caylee's mystery babysitter Zenaida Gonzalez. She is the woman Casey claimed last had her daughter.

"I've got the phone records so I'm not so sure, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. I've not seen anything from the Sheriff's Department and they have not confirmed anything to that. I would like to see her, but what am I going to say. What am I suppose to say? That's her prerogative," Cindy said Sunday.

LE stated it...but I guess Cindy doesn't watch TV anymore :shrug1:

[LiveLaughLuv]

Theory Suggests Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool

POSTED: 4:47 pm EDT August 8, 2008
UPDATED: 6:14 pm EDT August 8, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News got details Friday of a working theory held by investigators that little Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool. A source close to the investigation revealed only to Channel 9 a working theory of the crime involving Caylee drowning and what may have happened next.


The source said some investigators believe a flurry of phone calls from Casey to her parents on June 16 could be an indication that whatever happened to Caylee happened that day. On that day, Casey and Caylee were last seen together by Caylee's grandfather George at the Anthony family home where they lived.

Caylee Marie Anthony loved the water and some investigators are considering whether that has something to do with her disappearance.

The theory is based on the following facts.

Fact #1: Casey Anthony's phone records show a flurry of unanswered phone calls to her parents on June 16.

Some believe that could be because that's when something happened to Caylee. A possibility being considered is Caylee could've gotten into the backyard pool on her own and was discovered too late.

Fact #2: Eyewitness News was told the Anthony family was careful to keep a ladder near the pool safe from Caylee, but that around the time of her disappearance the ladder was up.

"Boy, how she can just figure things out. We, of course, as every family would, we've had to childproof everything and she's smart enough to take it off," Lee Anthony said.

Fact #3: A neighbor says, right around the time Caylee disappeared, Casey had backed the car up to the garage, which the neighbor said was unusual, and borrowed a shovel for about an hour.

Fact #4: The car was later found abandoned at the Amscot at Goldenrod and Colonial and was towed. When Casey's parents found out and got it back weeks later, Caylee's disappearance began to unravel. Caylee's grandmother called 911 and made a frantic plea for help.

"There's something's wrong! I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!" Cindy Anthony said in the call.

Fact #5: Investigators said they found evidence in the car that indicated Cindy Anthony's statement was true and the FBI is testing it to verify that.

"The first 24, 48 hours I had the 'what if, what if, what if.' I also went over all of it with the sheriff's department. Sgt. Allen can tell you that I sat down with him and talked about different things. He made me feel a lot better when they examined the pool, around the pool area, because, to me, that would be the riskiest place that something could have happened," Cindy Anthony said Friday afternoon in response to the theory.

This is not the only theory investigators are considering, it's only one of them. They're still hoping to find Caylee alive.

Channel 9 has also learned that new technology is being used to try to find out if in fact there was a dead body in Casey's car. A new lab test is being used on a sample from a stain found in the trunk of the car. A new device tests gases emitted from the stain to determine whether there's evidence of decomposition.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17136493/detail.html

[chambord]

Theory Suggests Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool

POSTED: 4:47 pm EDT August 8, 2008
UPDATED: 6:14 pm EDT August 8, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News got details Friday of a working theory held by investigators that little Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool. A source close to the investigation revealed only to Channel 9 a working theory of the crime involving Caylee drowning and what may have happened next.


The source said some investigators believe a flurry of phone calls from Casey to her parents on June 16 could be an indication that whatever happened to Caylee happened that day. On that day, Casey and Caylee were last seen together by Caylee's grandfather George at the Anthony family home where they lived.

Caylee Marie Anthony loved the water and some investigators are considering whether that has something to do with her disappearance.

The theory is based on the following facts.

Fact #1: Casey Anthony's phone records show a flurry of unanswered phone calls to her parents on June 16.

Some believe that could be because that's when something happened to Caylee. A possibility being considered is Caylee could've gotten into the backyard pool on her own and was discovered too late.

Fact #2: Eyewitness News was told the Anthony family was careful to keep a ladder near the pool safe from Caylee, but that around the time of her disappearance the ladder was up.

"Boy, how she can just figure things out. We, of course, as every family would, we've had to childproof everything and she's smart enough to take it off," Lee Anthony said.

Fact #3: A neighbor says, right around the time Caylee disappeared, Casey had backed the car up to the garage, which the neighbor said was unusual, and borrowed a shovel for about an hour.

Fact #4: The car was later found abandoned at the Amscot at Goldenrod and Colonial and was towed. When Casey's parents found out and got it back weeks later, Caylee's disappearance began to unravel. Caylee's grandmother called 911 and made a frantic plea for help.

"There's something's wrong! I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car!" Cindy Anthony said in the call.

Fact #5: Investigators said they found evidence in the car that indicated Cindy Anthony's statement was true and the FBI is testing it to verify that.

"The first 24, 48 hours I had the 'what if, what if, what if.' I also went over all of it with the sheriff's department. Sgt. Allen can tell you that I sat down with him and talked about different things. He made me feel a lot better when they examined the pool, around the pool area, because, to me, that would be the riskiest place that something could have happened," Cindy Anthony said Friday afternoon in response to the theory.

This is not the only theory investigators are considering, it's only one of them. They're still hoping to find Caylee alive.

Channel 9 has also learned that new technology is being used to try to find out if in fact there was a dead body in Casey's car. A new lab test is being used on a sample from a stain found in the trunk of the car. A new device tests gases emitted from the stain to determine whether there's evidence of decomposition.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17136493/detail.html

I was reading boards late last night and someone at WS posted the weather for that day. Between the hours of 2 pm. aprrox. and 4:20pm, there was thunderstorms and showers in that area. I found that interesting. Would Caylee be in the pool during that time.

[Faith]

Hi all! Here it is 3 am and I can't sleep. darn.

But, n-ne-ways, did you all see on Geraldo where his reporter said that Lee was checking Casey's cell calls and called the numbers for Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins? When the person answered the phone and it was Lee calling, they asked why Lee was calling them... both numbers stored in her phone under those names were actually to a neighbors house. :faintTHUD:

I'll repeat myself-- nothing surprises me in this case. :shrug1:

[Faith]

I am out of the country and looking for any news on this sad case.

Rowdy, nothing is "new", hoping the forensics will be back this week.

[Trailblazer]

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s336/starshineinca/caylee.jpg

Wow...now to me, there is a resemblance

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68791&page=10

post 227

[Audie]

Faith IIRC that is the date that Casey gave LE when the initial report was made.

I think Casey told LE thats she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass Apts on June 9th with the babysitter and when she returned from work Caylee and the babysitter were gone.

I'll see if I can find the info.

PPIt's very confusing. I'm assuming Cindy and Casey had been discussing the date between the time Cindy picked her up and when LE arrived. Did Cindy come up with June 9 first (her explanation of why she changed was posted awhile back) and Casey went with that date OR did Casey come up with June 9 and Cindy agreed. OR did they come up with the date seperately? Remember though that Casey tells Lee, between the last two 911 calls, it's been "31 days". Also Cindy says, in that last in-home interview video, that was posted here a few times yesterday, that LE kept Casey seperate from C,G, and Lee. LE left the house with Casey about 5:30 am and returned her about 7 am June 16. I would think that the June 9 date had been given to LE, by both Cindy and Casey, by 7 am June 16.

Did they not know the current date? Could they not count?

[Faith]

I have 22 pages to read to catch up, but I wanted to say Good Morning to everyone!!!! Hope you all had a good weekend.

Faith, I'll have to tell you about the concert - I'll leave a message on your profile page.

:happy0207:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Stuff/waving.gif I'm so sorry about the storms. The video had me movin' with my coffee- :67302:

[Audie]

Hi all! Here it is 3 am and I can't sleep. darn.

But, n-ne-ways, did you all see on Geraldo where his reporter said that Lee was checking Casey's cell calls and called the numbers for Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins? When the person answered the phone and it was Lee calling, they asked why Lee was calling them... both numbers stored in her phone under those names were actually to a neighbors house. :faintTHUD:I did see that, jane. That reporter was Geraldo's brother, correct? I wonder how he got that info.

[Faith]

It's very confusing. I'm assuming Cindy and Casey had been discussing the date between the time Cindy picked her up and when LE arrived. Did Cindy come up with June 9 first (her explanation of why she changed was posted awhile back) and Casey went with that date OR did Casey come up with June 9 and Cindy agreed. OR did they come up with the date seperately? Remember though that Casey tells Lee, between the last two 911 calls, it's been "31 days". Also Cindy says, in that last in-home interview video, that was posted here a few times yesterday, that LE kept Casey seperate from C,G, and Lee. LE left the house with Casey about 5:30 am and returned her about 7 am June 16. I would think that the June 9 date had been given to LE, by both Cindy and Casey, by 7 am June 16.

Did they not know the current date? Could they not count?

GM Audie- :happy0207:, I feel like at the very least, Cindy knew, about this prior to July 15. Cindy admits she said w/e it took to get LE to get there on the supposedly frantic 911 call. We've seen no tears from any of the family. The family backs Casey 100%. I may be wrong and if I am your theory is plausible.


ETA- Cindy also lied to the dispatcher saying my daughter has been missing for 30 days, I found her today.

George saw Casey on the 24th. Did he not tell Cindy Casey had the gas cans in the truck? I think he would.

[LiveLaughLuv]

It's very confusing. I'm assuming Cindy and Casey had been discussing the date between the time Cindy picked her up and when LE arrived. Did Cindy come up with June 9 first (her explanation of why she changed was posted awhile back) and Casey went with that date OR did Casey come up with June 9 and Cindy agreed. OR did they come up with the date seperately? Remember though that Casey tells Lee, between the last two 911 calls, it's been "31 days". Also Cindy says, in that last in-home interview video, that was posted here a few times yesterday, that LE kept Casey seperate from C,G, and Lee. LE left the house with Casey about 5:30 am and returned her about 7 am June 16. I would think that the June 9 date had been given to LE, by both Cindy and Casey, by 7 am June 16.

Did they not know the current date? Could they not count?

Could be Casey was confused on the date since the last time the Anthony's were with Caylee was Father's Day, June 15th. They have pictures.

One cannot remember all their lies, which is where the snowball effect comes in. One lie after another, after another, how can she keep up.

She also refused that visit last night with her parents. Could be she doesn't want to answer to the "no phone calls" on her cell phone to the alleged babysitter, which authorites are checking this possible theory that Casey disguised herself and used Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalezs name.

Casey has weaved such a web of deceit, my only feeling is that something happened to Caylee, accidently, but Casey can't bring herself to telling the truth. CSI keeps going back to the Anthony home and coming out with bags of evidence. They will find out what happened with or without the help of Casey.