View Full Version : Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #19
Faith
08-12-2008, 10:58 AM
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Information Threads (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146)
Caylee discussion thread #1 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702)
Caylee discussion thread #2 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6849)
Caylee discussion thread #3 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6866)
Caylee discussion thread #4 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6888)
Caylee discussion thread #5 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6912)
Caylee discussion thread #6 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6927)
Caylee discussion thread #7 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6947)
Caylee discussion thread #8 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6978)
Caylee discussion thread #9 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7002)
Caylee discussion thread #10 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7025)
Caylee discussion thread #11 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7047)
Caylee discussion thread #12 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7059)
Caylee discussion thread #13 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7079)
Caylee discussion Thread #14 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7101)
Caylee discussion thread #15 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7123)
Caylee discussion thread #16 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7158)
Caylee discussion thread #17 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7175)
Caley discussion thread #18 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7205)
Faith
08-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Exactly, Faith. She had *2* cellphones and *1* sim card that she switched back and forth between the 2 phones.
When Cindy is saying that her moms (GGM) number was programmed into the phone and thats how Caylee was able to call GGM.. *I'm* thinking what they are saying is that somehow Zenaida stole Caseys blackjack. BUT AGAIN... the sim card would have been in Casey's OTHER phone because she was using her other phone...
Its all so crazy!!!
I guess it will be said now that Caylee has the lost phone. :shrug1:
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Because she lived several states away and they caught the person that did it and it was someone that was friendly with the family.Of course they checked the psychic out to make sure she couldn't have done it.Believe it or not. I sure don't believe all these crack pots that claim they are psychic.especially when they want money.:groan:
In defense of Gale St John and the Bodyhunters, they were asking for donations to cover the cost of the trip, which, IMO would entail hotel rooms that do allow animals, gas, food for the dogs and the humans, and if they're going to be in Orlando for a while, that really could add up; and the Anthony's didn't ask them to come down, they just did it and they were going to do it anyway, even though they didn't have the money. It just so happened that they did receive $850 in donations for this particular search.
Some people feel it is their "ministry" or "calling" to assist others and simply ask for donations for expenses. They don't get paid to do it unless a family or LE asks them to come search.
Whoohoo...am I first? :s1gyahoo:
Claudia
08-12-2008, 11:06 AM
Whoohoo...am I first? :s1gyahoo:
No. :rolleye0001:
protectkidz
08-12-2008, 11:06 AM
In defense of Gale St John and the Bodyhunters, they were asking for donations to cover the cost of the trip, which, IMO would entail hotel rooms that do allow animals, gas, food for the dogs and the humans, and if they're going to be in Orlando for a while, that really could add up; and the Anthony's didn't ask them to come down, they just did it and they were going to do it anyway, even though they didn't have the money. It just so happened that they did receive $850 in donations for this particular search.
Some people feel it is their "ministry" or "calling" to assist others and simply ask for donations for expenses. They don't get paid to do it unless a family or LE asks them to come search.
well, if I could I would be there right now, searching for Caylee.
And at least they have more to go on than I have - their psychic abilities.
Can't count anything out, I feel.
protectkidz
08-12-2008, 11:07 AM
hey Acey - my husband loves his "Jimmy Buffett For President" t-shirt and wears it all the time :)
No. :rolleye0001:
:tongue:
Well I'm here before you. :67302:
Okay, back on topic please....
TeeOne
08-12-2008, 11:07 AM
no. :rolleye0001:
lol!
Isabella
08-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Personally I think you have to be insane to comprehend this case and the players, none of us here are quite there ...yet...lol (speaking for myself)
You can't make sense of what any of these people say. :groan:
I am going to PetSmart and will ponder this on my way there and back. lol
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 11:08 AM
well, if I could I would be there right now, searching for Caylee.
And at least they have more to go on than I have - their psychic abilities.
Can't count anything out, I feel.
I am right there with you PK; if only I could do more; I have faith in the competence of the players involved, apart from the Anthony's of course - no disrespect intended, they just aren't being genuine about everything
btw, Cindy said she'd take a poly - is Baez telling her not to do that too? I mean, he is their attorney and he should tell her not to, but she offered, she needs to do so, but I betcha it would be a bad outcome, IMO, because of her twisted stories thus far, and if she's on meds, then forget it - they won't do it.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Personally I think you have to be insane to comprehend this case and the players, none of us here are quite there ...yet...lol (speaking for myself)
You can't make sense of what any of these people say. :groan:
I am going to PetSmart and will ponder this on my way there and back. lol
Hey pick up some bitter apple spray for Faith and jazzie :shrug1: while you're there:bump:
Claudia
08-12-2008, 11:17 AM
:tongue:
Well i'm here before you. :67302:
Okay, back on topic please....
:71541:
Shotzie
08-12-2008, 11:22 AM
Good Morning All,
On the psychic subject, I have to defend, since some of them do have that ability, I have gone to a few, some nut cases, but one actually described my late father to a tea and told me things no one knew.
She also had helped the Police solve a murder in Marin County,,that's in California. She was really old when I went to her about 85, but a sharp mind, She had a great reputation.
O.K. Don't get freaked out but I do "Crystal readings" an they do come true. It is a general reading not specifics.
Say by the rocks you pick (9)I see a move, or a change of job or a divorce a ending of something. Or a great beginning. I have done this for years and do not charge anything. I always feel I have helped that person because they are seeking a answer..
O.K. Bash away :71526: to the none believers..I believe in UFO's also..:francis:
Faith
08-12-2008, 11:23 AM
Hey pick up some bitter apple spray for Faith and jazzie :shrug1: while you're there:bump:
I have Jazzi on a chain now in my dining room so she can't reach the carpet. :happy0158:
chambord
08-12-2008, 11:25 AM
One thing I find so mysterious about this case, is Caylee was almost three years old. In all that time, who the heck was caring for this child. Cindy was working a full time job, Casey, we have learned, did work for awhile at Universal. Outside of one neighbor that came forward to say she occassionaly watched Caylee, no one else has. Not one day care worker, nanny, or otherwise. And if there was someone that was caring for Caylee on a regular basis, they would have asked for a who to contact in case of emergancy number.
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 11:26 AM
I have Jazzi on a chain now in my dining room so she can't reach the carpet. :happy0158:
poor little teething baby...:happy0158:
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 11:29 AM
Good Morning All,
On the psychic subject, I have to defend, since some of them do have that ability, I have gone to a few, some nut cases, but one actually described my late father to a tea and told me things no one knew.
She also had helped the Police solve a murder in Marin County,,that's in California. She was really old when I went to her about 85, but a sharp mind, She had a great reputation.
O.K. Don't get freaked out but I do "Crystal readings" an they do come true. It is a general reading not specifics.
Say by the rocks you pick (9)I see a move, or a change of job or a divorce a ending of something. Or a great beginning. I have done this for years and do not charge anything. I always feel I have helped that person because they are seeking a answer..
O.K. Bash away :71526: to the none believers..I believe in UFO's also..:francis:
I'm with ya - I'm a believer too; I also believe in ghosts and spirits; never been to a psychic, medium or anything like that, but I'm a believer (I watch tv:67302:) seriously, I'm a believer.
I have Jazzi on a chain now in my dining room so she can't reach the carpet. :happy0158: whewwwww, i was worried that one day you'd go sit on your couch and BAM it'd fall to the floor - jazzie the german shephard termite. LOL
scout
08-12-2008, 11:30 AM
One thing I find so mysterious about this case, is Caylee was almost three years old. In all that time, who the heck was caring for this child. Cindy was working a full time job, Casey, we have learned, did work for awhile at Universal. Outside of one neighbor that came forward to say she occassionaly watched Caylee, no one else has. Not one day care worker, nanny, or otherwise. And if there was someone that was caring for Caylee on a regular basis, they would have asked for a who to contact in case of emergancy number.
Yeah.. that is a big mystery alright!
What I find interesting (.. and I know I keep saying this but) where are all of casey's 'friends'?.. why haven't we heard from any of them as to how GREAT a mother she is.. and how she would NEVER harm her child..
We've heard NADA from them..
hey Acey - my husband loves his "Jimmy Buffett For President" t-shirt and wears it all the time :)
Hey PK, how are you? JB's got my vote. Any plans to come back to this area?
chambord
08-12-2008, 11:32 AM
Good Morning All,
On the psychic subject, I have to defend, since some of them do have that ability, I have gone to a few, some nut cases, but one actually described my late father to a tea and told me things no one knew.
She also had helped the Police solve a murder in Marin County,,that's in California. She was really old when I went to her about 85, but a sharp mind, She had a great reputation.
O.K. Don't get freaked out but I do "Crystal readings" an they do come true. It is a general reading not specifics.
Say by the rocks you pick (9)I see a move, or a change of job or a divorce a ending of something. Or a great beginning. I have done this for years and do not charge anything. I always feel I have helped that person because they are seeking a answer..
O.K. Bash away :71526: to the none believers..I believe in UFO's also..:francis:
No bashing from me. LOL...Years ago I went to an elderly lady who had garnered a great reputation for reading tea leaves. Skeptic that I am, I went for a lark. What she predicted, to a T came out to be. I would never have believed it, but over the passage of time, it was all true. :71526:
Faith
08-12-2008, 11:35 AM
Good Morning All,
On the psychic subject, I have to defend, since some of them do have that ability, I have gone to a few, some nut cases, but one actually described my late father to a tea and told me things no one knew.
She also had helped the Police solve a murder in Marin County,,that's in California. She was really old when I went to her about 85, but a sharp mind, She had a great reputation.
O.K. Don't get freaked out but I do "Crystal readings" an they do come true. It is a general reading not specifics.
Say by the rocks you pick (9)I see a move, or a change of job or a divorce a ending of something. Or a great beginning. I have done this for years and do not charge anything. I always feel I have helped that person because they are seeking a answer..
O.K. Bash away :71526: to the none believers..I believe in UFO's also..:francis:
I've been to card readers that didn't know me and they gave me readings that freaked me the hell out. No way should they know things they did. I went to another one b/c I was curious-- I won't go back again- :thud2:
protectkidz
08-12-2008, 11:36 AM
Hey PK, how are you? JB's got my vote. Any plans to come back to this area?
not at this time, but will let you know if something comes up and we can have lunch.
Waiting for Trenton to be found - I'll be there immediately when that happens.
:love0085:
Shotzie
08-12-2008, 11:37 AM
No bashing from me. LOL...Years ago I went to an elderly lady who had garnered a great reputation for reading tea leaves. Skeptic that I am, I went for a lark. What she predicted, to a T came out to be. I would never have believed it, but over the passage of time, it was all true. :71526:
That's how my reading are, sometime it takes months to happen, then the people call me an say..How did I know? It's just the rocks they pick that tell a story.
protectkidz
08-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I had a tarot card reading just before I met my husband.
The reading was right on.
Couldn't have been more right.
Luckily, it was all good, lol.
Faith
08-12-2008, 11:41 AM
"We get threats every day," missing child's grandmother Cindy Anthony said. "We get threats on our home phone and we get threats on our cell phone."
If that is true has Cindy turned all this over to LE so the calls can be traced?
protectkidz
08-12-2008, 11:42 AM
off-topic:
these people are completely f*ed up:
"..."The audience will understand that it's in the national interest," Chen said in a video of the interview posted online Sunday night...."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402093,00.html
One thing I find so mysterious about this case, is Caylee was almost three years old. In all that time, who the heck was caring for this child. Cindy was working a full time job, Casey, we have learned, did work for awhile at Universal. Outside of one neighbor that came forward to say she occassionaly watched Caylee, no one else has. Not one day care worker, nanny, or otherwise. And if there was someone that was caring for Caylee on a regular basis, they would have asked for a who to contact in case of emergancy number.
Has anyone seen pictures of Caylee with a babysitter, or with any other children?
chambord
08-12-2008, 11:44 AM
ReddCurls, Faith and Trial.
Just wanted you to know how much appreciated the links you post for us. I have such limited time to search having a work schedule I must keep, its a plus for me for what you bring to the table.
:happy0158:
chambord
08-12-2008, 11:46 AM
off-topic:
these people are completely f*ed up:
"..."The audience will understand that it's in the national interest," Chen said in a video of the interview posted online Sunday night...."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402093,00.html
Its unbelievable. :puke:
I'm going to try to use my furry brain to recall some things I wanted to reply to from the last thread. :girl_haha:
DJ and Mr. DJ - congratulations!! What a pleasant way to start my morning! Lots of love and work and you've succeeded beautifully. :tender::tender:
Welcome back, PK - check your PMs, I sent you my address - I could use some help around here. :67302:
KM - :71541: bad girl, bad girl. :67302:
I'm sorry, I don't remember who said that a trunk is a logical place to keep pizza. :redface: We keep our pizza in our trunk, too - but here we call it a freezer. :francis:
I don't know why, but Cindy continues to shock me with her ability to lie on the spot.
Question: if Baez has told Casey not to meet with her family, why didn't he have the courtesy to notify the family before they went for the visits? :mad:
Claudia
08-12-2008, 11:50 AM
off-topic:
these people are completely f*ed up:
"..."The audience will understand that it's in the national interest," Chen said in a video of the interview posted online Sunday night...."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402093,00.html
That's horrible. :lex_10:
Faith
08-12-2008, 11:54 AM
ReddCurls, Faith and Trial.
Just wanted you to know how much appreciated the links you post for us. I have such limited time to search having a work schedule I must keep, its a plus for me for what you bring to the table.
:happy0158:
:happy0158:
That's horrible. :lex_10:
I agree....how unfair to both those little girls.
I guess it will be said now that Caylee has the lost phone. :shrug1:
Not to mention what the article accused her of last night. It's coming down to everything being Caylee's fault. I wouldn't put it past this family. :mad:
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 12:05 PM
Yeah.. that is a big mystery alright!
What I find interesting (.. and I know I keep saying this but) where are all of casey's 'friends'?.. why haven't we heard from any of them as to how GREAT a mother she is.. and how she would NEVER harm her child..
We've heard NADA from them.. The only thing I recall hearing, and I think it was from Jesse Grund, her ex fiancee, was that she's a pathological liar
Has anyone seen pictures of Caylee with a babysitter, or with any other children? GREAT point! and NO! I've not. The only other person I've seen her with is her GGF and that photo warms my heart so. Why no pics of Caylee with the GGM who allegedly got a phone call from her? There's not many pics of her with G and C either.:shrug1:
ReddCurls, Faith and Trial.
Just wanted you to know how much appreciated the links you post for us. I have such limited time to search having a work schedule I must keep, its a plus for me for what you bring to the table.
:happy0158:
awww thanks Cham. I do it because I enjoy it. We all make such a great team.:friends3::hifive: Ya'll are fantabulous!!!!!:howdy:
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 12:06 PM
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.
Judge Again Denies Lowering $500G Bond for Missing Florida Toddler's Mom
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
A judge has again denied a request for lower bond for the imprisoned mother of a missing Orlando toddler, as the woman's brother canceled a scheduled jail visit Tuesday morning.
A motion filed by the lawyer for Casey Marie Anthony to reduce her $500,000 bond was turned down for the second time in two weeks — and the third time overall. Attorney Jose Baez filed the latest petition last week in the 5th District Court of Appeals.
Anthony remains a person of interest in her 3-year-old daughter Caylee Marie Anthony's disappearance almost two months ago. She has not been named a suspect but has been charged with child neglect and lying to police.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402105,00.html
I still feel like they should lower her bond and tail her. She will lead them to Caylee.
Casey's last bf, Tony Lazarro is staying quiet about Caylee. If it's true, and Casey lived with him for a month, why hasn't he talked? Craig Rivera tried to interview him.
The following is a transcript of the conversation that took place between Lazzaro and Rivera.
CRAIG RIVERA: Craig Rivera, FOX News. Let me talk to you about your relationship with Casey Anthony. Tell me...
TONY LAZZARO: Sir, I have no comment right now, can I go get something to eat please?
CRAIG RIVERA: Yeah, but just tell me. Look, what was it like with her that past month?
TONY LAZZARO: I have no comment, please.
CRAIG RIVERA: Why can't you just tell me?
TONY LAZZARO: Because...
CRAIG RIVERA: Just tell me what it was like.
TONY LAZZARO: I don't know!
CRAIG RIVERA: Did you ever see her child?
VIDEO: FOX News tracks down mom's ex boyfriend
FRIEND: Can you guys just like leave him alone?
CRAIG RIVERA: Did you ever see her child? Tony, did you ever see Caylee?
TONY LAZARRO: Everything's in the statement sir. I made statements with the police. Everything I have...
CRAIG RIVERA: Tony, just tell me.
TONY LAZZARO: Can I please eat please?
CRAIG RIVERA: All you have to do is give me one minute.
TONY LAZZARO: Sir, everything that I know...
CRAIG RIVERA: Did you ever see the child? She stayed with you for a month.
TONY LAZZARO: Yeah, sir...everything that I know... are you the manager? This is...I mean I'm trying to eat. Please, can I just go and eat my food?
CRAIG RIVERA: Why can't you just answer my one question about this missing person? Why can't you provide any help?
TONY LAZZARO: I've helped everything, I'm still talking to the police, I'm still cooperating, fully cooperating with the police.
CRAIG RIVERA: Are the police still talking to you?
TONY LAZZARO: Yes sir.
CRAIG RIVERA: Did you pick up Casey Anthony from the financial center when she abandoned her car?
TONY LAZZARO: I have to go to the bathroom. (Tony walks away)
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7131080&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 12:11 PM
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Friends of arrested mother Casey Anthony revealed to
Channel 9 what she was really doing since her daughter's disappearance.
Casey Anthony's friends are still freaking out over how she acted as though
she hadn't a care in the world during the time she now says she had no idea
where her daughter Caylee was.
Friends told Eyewitness News Casey celebrated Independence Day with her
boyfriend Tony Lazarro. She partied and cooked dinner for him and his
roommate.
Friends said Lazzaro believed she worked as an event planner at Universal
Studios for the two months they were together. She told him her boss allowed
her to work from her computer at his Winter Park apartment. They found out
later from her family she wasn't earning the money she was spending.
Instead, Casey was running up her mother's credit cards.
When Casey called Lazarro for a ride from the Amscot where she abandoned her
car, she claimed it had broken down and that her father was going to get it
to a shop later. That car holds some of the most significant evidence
investigators have revealed, possible evidence of Caylee's hair, a
suspicious stain and the odor of human decomposition, all in the trunk.
While Casey was in court on Tuesday trying to get out of jail on bond,
detectives were at her boyfriend's apartment complex going door-to-door
asking residents whether they've seen Casey and Caylee there. An employee at
Sutton Place Apartments remembered, sadly, how she'd seen them at a swimming
pool in early June with Lazarro. Caylee was playing with dishes in the pool,
yelling happily, "Look at me, look at me."
http://www.wftv.com/news/16979873/detail.html
The only thing I recall hearing, and I think it was from Jesse Grund, her ex fiancee, was that she's a pathological liar
GREAT point! and NO! I've not. The only other person I've seen her with is her GGF and that photo warms my heart so. Why no pics of Caylee with the GGM who allegedly got a phone call from her? There's not many pics of her with G and C either.:shrug1:
This is a good point. Cindy said that it was Casey who took most of the pictures of Caylee. She's in most of them.
awww thanks Cham. I do it because I enjoy it. We all make such a great team.:friends3::hifive: Ya'll are fantabulous!!!!!:howdy:
Faith
08-12-2008, 12:27 PM
I still feel like they should lower her bond and tail her. She will lead them to Caylee.
Casey's last bf, Tony Lazarro is staying quiet about Caylee. If it's true, and Casey lived with him for a month, why hasn't he talked? Craig Rivera tried to interview him.
Ex-boyfriend: "I'm fully cooperating with police
Last Edited: Monday, 04 Aug 2008, 10:50 AM EDT
Created: Monday, 04 Aug 2008, 10:29 AM EDT
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:b9sQ24fu-6AJ:www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail%3FcontentId%3D7129542%26version%3D5%26local e%3DEN-US%26layoutCode%3DTSTY%26pageId%3D1.1.1+Tony+Lazar ro+is+cooperating+with+police&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
I like what Michael Cardoza said yesterday. Try her on the current charges, which have at least 6 years attached, toss her in prison and continue the investigation. She would have to continue to be isolated from other prisoners - she wouldn't last long, I don't think - maybe 6 months all by herself would crack her.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 12:30 PM
I like what Michael Cardoza said yesterday. Try her on the current charges, which have at least 6 years attached, toss her in prison and continue the investigation. She would have to continue to be isolated from other prisoners - she wouldn't last long, I don't think - maybe 6 months all by herself would crack her.
I TOTALLY AGREE:happy0158::hifive:
Faith
08-12-2008, 12:34 PM
I like what Michael Cardoza said yesterday. Try her on the current charges, which have at least 6 years attached, toss her in prison and continue the investigation. She would have to continue to be isolated from other prisoners - she wouldn't last long, I don't think - maybe 6 months all by herself would crack her.
I agree, she would crack, I think, if not before then. I pray Caylee is found.
Faith
08-12-2008, 12:34 PM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/gale.jpg
Faith
08-12-2008, 12:41 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
scout
08-12-2008, 12:58 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
Ok. Okay. Sooo.. maybe she (Caylee) really *is* being held by someone.
Am I crazy?
It *is* a possibility that someone has her... right?:0009:
Shotzie
08-12-2008, 12:59 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
Wow, this was one of the best interviews I have seen, I hope all he said was true about alot of people helping him.
Harmony
08-12-2008, 01:01 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
Faith- Did you hear him say there are other timelines out there? :frustratedf:
:francis: :thud2:
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 01:07 PM
Wow, this was one of the best interviews I have seen, I hope all he said was true about alot of people helping him.
I can't get that video to load. :groan:
Can you give a summary on what is being said?
Faith
08-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Faith- Did you hear him say there are other timelines out there? :frustratedf:
:francis: :thud2:
YES, I was like OMG-
Faith
08-12-2008, 01:16 PM
Ok. Okay. Sooo.. maybe she (Caylee) really *is* being held by someone.
Am I crazy?
It *is* a possibility that someone has her... right?:0009:
I suppose there are things that we don't know and LE and family are not sharing but in my heart I feel Caylee is dead.
Way off theory
I guess someone stole Casey's car after June 24, (Cindy said she is not sure Casey was the last to drive it)
Maybe Caylee was in the car when stolen?
I do not believe any of what I just typed.
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:18 PM
In defense of Gale St John and the Bodyhunters, they were asking for donations to cover the cost of the trip, which, IMO would entail hotel rooms that do allow animals, gas, food for the dogs and the humans, and if they're going to be in Orlando for a while, that really could add up; and the Anthony's didn't ask them to come down, they just did it and they were going to do it anyway, even though they didn't have the money. It just so happened that they did receive $850 in donations for this particular search.
Some people feel it is their "ministry" or "calling" to assist others and simply ask for donations for expenses. They don't get paid to do it unless a family or LE asks them to come search.
Redd Is this the lady that went with the guy and the science guy not long ago to find out what happened to Natalie, and she got so upset she had to stop for a while, then go back. They went on the request of Beth. If it's not, do you know her name?
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:18 PM
Morning All
scout
08-12-2008, 01:24 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
".. these people know they are being watched"
:groan:
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 01:27 PM
I transcribed a little bit of George's interview just now, it's not verbatim, but it's some of what was said at about the 4:14 marker on the video
Reporter: you understand how difficult it is when you say I can’t tell you everything, but I need your help; I can’t tell you everything, but I need your help.
George: Im not gonna speculate on who has my granddaughter, I’m really not. These people know they’re being watched; they know. I really can’t get into that
Reporter: is there people out there who can help you find your granddaughter
George: yeah you would think the people that have my granddaughter right now would be smart enough to say “oh listen gotta turn this lil girl back into her family; I don’t want anymore of this going on.
Reporter: You really believe that George?
George: oh deep, deep, well there’s somethin’; stuff that is out there so far, I hope I can say this politely, evidence that’s out there is circumstantial, being drawn up in someone’s mind just because it looks like it’s going one way, could be going a totally different way.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
Isabella
08-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Ok. Okay. Sooo.. maybe she (Caylee) really *is* being held by someone.
Am I crazy?
It *is* a possibility that someone has her... right?:0009:
I have considered this BUT if I allow myself to believe that and you have heard Cindy say Casey is prepared to spend the rest of her life in jail to protect Caylee, meaning to me, she will never give up the names of who has her or why...So in my mind there is no babysitter who stole her and we have the family saying Caylee is fine, then no she is in danger...
Bottom line.. if Caylee is out there God forbid she is being sexually abused, beaten, or worse and to think for one second her own Mother would not be trying to get her back is absurd. If she is out there then to me Casey sold her or put her in a position to be taken.
And same goes for the family, they have never pushed Casey on real facts about how to find this little girl.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Redd Is this the lady that went with the guy and the science guy not long ago to find out what happened to Natalie, and she got so upset she had to stop for a while, then go back. They went on the request of Beth. If it's not, do you know her name?
Hey Nicky - good morning
I think Faith could answer that better; I believe she worked that case very closely with the family. Faith?
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:30 PM
Oh, forgot to tell you, there are new maps towards the bottom of Brian's page, if I were any good at pasting, I 'd put them on here.
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 01:34 PM
OVIEDO, Fla. -- It's been 28 days since now 3-year-old Caylee Anthony was reported missing. Caylee's grandfather told Eyewitness News on Tuesday that she was kidnapped and the people that have her are being watched.
George Anthony said told Eyewitness News was supposed to meet in Oviedo on Tuesday morning with "people assisting outside the normal scope of things" and he seemed to suggest that the people are doing surveillance on kidnappers who he believes have his granddaughter.
"These people know they are being watched. They know it," George told Eyewitness News on Tuesday morning.
Who are these people doing this surveillance?
If the Anthony's have this information and haven't given this information to the police they need to be jailed for withholding information.
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 01:34 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
George is still in denial. He's back to believing everything that Casey and Jose have said. It really is sad. He's smarter than that but just can't let himself believe that Caylee might be dead.
TeeOne
08-12-2008, 01:34 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
".. these people know they are being watched"
:groan:
So did he mean that the people that have Caylee are being watched by LE? What the heck:shrug1:
Faith
08-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Redd Is this the lady that went with the guy and the science guy not long ago to find out what happened to Natalie, and she got so upset she had to stop for a while, then go back. They went on the request of Beth. If it's not, do you know her name?
Nicky, there were many psychics that came forward in Natalee's case. Haunting Evidence went there and did an episode. Noreen Renier was one lady. There was a head tapper. I can't recall all the names now. Basically they were all worthless.
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:40 PM
Forgot to mention sae on tv right before I left that Casey has denied Lee a visit. Could this be the works of the FBI, hoping she will crack without having her family around her? I still believe they should use a rubber hose on her. They could always sneak in some one from CIA whos a master at torture, I bet she'd break then, and knw oone would believe her since she lies so mush. They have ways to make yu talk without leaving bruises.
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Nicky, there were many psychics that came forward in Natalee's case. Haunting Evidence went there and did an episode. Noreen Renier was one lady. There was a head tapper. I can't recall all the names now. Basically they were all worthless.
I don't think this lady's name was Noreed, it only happened a few omnths ago, she went with the guy that visualizes things and draws pictures. She can feel things and communicate with the spirits. They found the shck on the beach and she said Natalie was sick because some one slipped something in her dring, she tried to run away when he started touching her, fell and according to her raped her. The other guy picked up on the sane site, but they hadn't been communicating with each other.
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Forgot to mention sae on tv right before I left that Casey has denied Lee a visit. Could this be the works of the FBI, hoping she will crack without having her family around her? I still believe they should use a rubber hose on her. They could always sneak in some one from CIA whos a master at torture, I bet she'd break then, and knw oone would believe her since she lies so mush. They have ways to make yu talk without leaving bruises.
I think they should house her in a cellblock with a "select" group of inmates could be motivating as well. Seems to me little Casey has a life time of being pampered and treated as if she's special. Let's treat her like any other ordinary criminal. She's break then.
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Nicky, there were many psychics that came forward in Natalee's case. Haunting Evidence went there and did an episode. Noreen Renier was one lady. There was a head tapper. I can't recall all the names now. Basically they were all worthless.
Head Tapper?
nicky
08-12-2008, 01:45 PM
I think they should house her in a cellblock with a "select" group of inmates could be motivating as well. Seems to me little Casey has a life time of being pampered and treated as if she's special. Let's treat her like any other ordinary criminal. She's break then.
They won't do that, becuase those women would kill her. imo
Shotzie
08-12-2008, 01:50 PM
I was watching the "Closer" last night on TV. an I thought they should get Kyndra to interrogate Casey, she could break her..:francis:
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 01:56 PM
They should take a bunch of photos of her with oily hair, no makeup, prison grab and threaten to create a myspace page for her.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 01:58 PM
I was watching the "Closer" last night on TV. an I thought they should get Kyndra to interrogate Casey, she could break her..:francis:
lmfao so true OR NANCY GRACE lol
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:05 PM
I like what Michael Cardoza said yesterday. Try her on the current charges, which have at least 6 years attached, toss her in prison and continue the investigation. She would have to continue to be isolated from other prisoners - she wouldn't last long, I don't think - maybe 6 months all by herself would crack her.
That's what I'd like to see happen, but I don't believe Casey will ever tell the truth or reveal meaningful information about Caylee.
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:07 PM
RAW INTERVIEW: Casey Anthony's Attorney Discusses Visitation Cancellations
http://www.wftv.com/video/17167874/index.html
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
".. these people know they are being watched"
:groan:
Afternoon Scout :happy0207:
That report cracked me up.
nicky
08-12-2008, 02:09 PM
RAW INTERVIEW: Casey Anthony's Attorney Discusses Visitation Cancellations
http://www.wftv.com/video/17167874/index.html
I saw that, but I'm just not buying it. I think they are trying to get her to break and crash and burn.
nicky
08-12-2008, 02:10 PM
They should take a bunch of photos of her with oily hair, no makeup, prison grab and threaten to create a myspace page for her.
LMAO:67302::67302::67302::67302::67302::67302::zm1 0:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:11 PM
Who are these people doing this surveillance?
If the Anthony's have this information and haven't given this information to the police they need to be jailed for withholding information.
Afternoon, LLL
That's a good question. Who is watching them? I hope the FBI will ask George that question.
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 02:12 PM
I transcribed a little bit of George's interview just now, it's not verbatim, but it's some of what was said at about the 4:14 marker on the video
Reporter: you understand how difficult it is when you say I can’t tell you everything, but I need your help; I can’t tell you everything, but I need your help.
George: Im not gonna speculate on who has my granddaughter, I’m really not. These people know they’re being watched; they know. I really can’t get into that
Reporter: is there people out there who can help you find your granddaughter
George: yeah you would think the people that have my granddaughter right now would be smart enough to say “oh listen gotta turn this lil girl back into her family; I don’t want anymore of this going on.
Reporter: You really believe that George?
George: oh deep, deep, well there’s somethin’; stuff that is out there so far, I hope I can say this politely, evidence that’s out there is circumstantial, being drawn up in someone’s mind just because it looks like it’s going one way, could be going a totally different way.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.html
Thanks Redd.
Okay, now Caylee has been kidnapped, what happened to ZFG??? That story got ripped to shreds. I can't help wonder that Casey thinks she is smarter than the police and they wouldn't be able to hunt down ZFG!
That baby was not kidnapped. Something happened to her while with her mother. If she lived with her bf Tony Lazarro for one month, Caylee seen only one time in the pool, my feeling is she accidently drowned or was left in the car alone and maybe died of heat stroke. The other possibility, as Brians' predictions said, medication. The authorities should check her computer for buying drugs online.
I also feel the Anthony family really knows.
If they were charged with obstruction, maybe then we'd get to the truth!
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:12 PM
I think they should house her in a cellblock with a "select" group of inmates could be motivating as well. Seems to me little Casey has a life time of being pampered and treated as if she's special. Let's treat her like any other ordinary criminal. She's break then.
Wow! I do so agree with you!
Lilly
08-12-2008, 02:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
".. these people know they are being watched"
:groan:
Morning all.. I seriously hope G and C aren't paying people who say they've found the kidnappers and just need a little more time, and MONEY. :groan:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:16 PM
RAW INTERVIEW: Casey Anthony's Attorney Discusses Visitation Cancellations
http://www.wftv.com/video/17167874/index.html
I think Baez told Casey that her visits with the family were being discussed by the media and that what she tells her family makes her sound even more guilty.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:28 PM
Morning all.. I seriously hope G and C aren't paying people who say they've found the kidnappers and just need a little more time, and MONEY. :groan:
I don't get it. George says "they" are watching people involved in taking Caylee, but if they are, why doesn't LE go get Caylee?
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 02:30 PM
I don't get it. George says "they" are watching people involved in taking Caylee, but if they are, why doesn't LE go get Caylee?
Good question....I personally think George has gone off the deep end....
Claycat
08-12-2008, 02:30 PM
In defense of Gale St John and the Bodyhunters, they were asking for donations to cover the cost of the trip, which, IMO would entail hotel rooms that do allow animals, gas, food for the dogs and the humans, and if they're going to be in Orlando for a while, that really could add up; and the Anthony's didn't ask them to come down, they just did it and they were going to do it anyway, even though they didn't have the money. It just so happened that they did receive $850 in donations for this particular search.
Some people feel it is their "ministry" or "calling" to assist others and simply ask for donations for expenses. They don't get paid to do it unless a family or LE asks them to come search.
I read an article in which Gale pointed out that she could be wrong, but at least she was looking instead of sitting around talking about it. She isn't paid, and the TV show she is in hasn't been released yet, and I understand she is in danger of losing her house. I wish I had money to send her.
People need to be gentler with us psychics. I give people a lot of messages that make them feel good and in return make me feel good. I don't ever ask for any money because I feel it is a gift that has been given to me to share. However, I don't have much money, and if I ever had to go anywhere to help out in a psychic manner, I would expect to have my expenses paid. I don't see that happening any time soon, because what I get isn't strong enough yet.
Thank you, Redd, for sticking up for her! It makes me feel good!
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 02:31 PM
Afternoon, LLL
That's a good question. Who is watching them? I hope the FBI will ask George that question.
Afternoon A2L!
This case is taking more twists and turns than the rollercoaster at Coney Island. :groan:
These people need to take themselves out of the spotlight and focus more on finding Caylee. Seems they buy everything and anything Casey sells them. One more theory to be blown to bits.
Maybe I have been watching too much TV. It seems to me, that if Casey knows who has Caylee, the *smart* thing to do, would be tell LE. LE could schedule a *secret* raid, go in and get Caylee, and then immediately put the whole family in the Witness Protection program. I mean, Casey is supposedly witholding this information to protect Caylee and her family, right?
Let me just add, that I don't believe anybody has Caylee. I think that poor baby is no longer alive at the hands of her mother.
mrsmcgoo
08-12-2008, 02:34 PM
Where are the GP's getting the funds for the huge billboards and such? Are they soliciting for donations?
Who would contribute? What if they used the funds to bail out Casey or for her defence?
This has been bothering me! :madranting94dp:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:35 PM
Good question....I personally think George has gone off the deep end....
I do, too. And this new story is way out there. What is their objective? Are they just trying to convenience the public that Caylee is alive and therefore Casey didn't harm her? This latest story is over the top! Baez needs to whisper in his ear.
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:38 PM
I think George may be trying to lead the public in a different direction. He is a talker and a good one. Much more believable than Cindy.
A while back I heard/Read Jose hired a PI. Perhaps that is who George is referring to. Also, I recall Casey saying something on her call about a Mike? Was that him?
IMO all the evidence is pointing to Caylee not being alive and were in the hands of Casey when something happened.
Until I get a better understanding of what George is referring to I will stand by my beliefs.
Family Takes Matters Into Own Hands
8/8/08
The divide between the attorney for the mother of missing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony and Orange County Sheriff's detectives continues to widen as the family takes matters into their own hands to find the little girl.
As of noon Thursday, Casey Anthony was still behind bars waiting for her family to raise the $50,000 and $500,000 security needed for her bond. She is also not talking to authorities.
The sheriff's office is conducting a criminal investigation, while the family of Casey and Caylee have launched a new effort in finding the 2-year-old with a call center.
Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, has hired a private detective, but Baez has not returned any of News 13's phone calls.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/24/caylee_anthony_mystery_deepens.html
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:38 PM
Afternoon A2L!
This case is taking more twists and turns than the rollercoaster at Coney Island. :groan:
These people need to take themselves out of the spotlight and focus more on finding Caylee. Seems they buy everything and anything Casey sells them. One more theory to be blown to bits.
Hi LLL,
I think the Anthony's are not only defending Casey, they are defending themselves. Why else go through all this in the public eye? Most people are amazed they are defending Casey and her ridiculous story and at the same time Casey does nothing to help Caylee. SICK!
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 02:39 PM
Where are the GP's getting the funds for the huge billboards and such? Are they soliciting for donations?
Who would contribute? What if they used the funds to bail out Casey or for her defence?
This has been bothering me! :madranting94dp:
It's been said a 12 y/o has been instrumental in coordinating the vigils and getting donations.
It's half a million dollars bail so even if there is a cash bond it has to be at least 10% of that. If that's the case why don't the parents put their house up as collateral. There home must be worth more than $50,000.00
Good point, I wouldn't want any funds to go to Casey if they are pledged for Caylee.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:40 PM
Maybe I have been watching too much TV. It seems to me, that if Casey knows who has Caylee, the *smart* thing to do, would be tell LE. LE could schedule a *secret* raid, go in and get Caylee, and then immediately put the whole family in the Witness Protection program. I mean, Casey is supposedly witholding this information to protect Caylee and her family, right?
Let me just add, that I don't believe anybody has Caylee. I think that poor baby is no longer alive at the hands of her mother.
Hi F~M
You have summed up what we are all thinking.
Audie
08-12-2008, 02:40 PM
George Anthony discusses the investigation into his granddaughter's disappearance with reporters on Tuesday.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17168037/index.htmlA big hmm.
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:41 PM
Where are the GP's getting the funds for the huge billboards and such? Are they soliciting for donations?
Who would contribute? What if they used the funds to bail out Casey or for her defence?
This has been bothering me! :madranting94dp:
The billboard is being provided by Kid Finders Network.
The Anthony's cannot touch the funds donated to Kid Finders. They have set up private donations for the family. if the public donates. :0009:
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:42 PM
A big hmm.
Your true opinion??
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 02:43 PM
It's been said a 12 y/o has been instrumental in coordinating the vigils and getting donations.
It's half a million dollars bail so even if there is a cash bond it has to be at least 10% of that. If that's the case why don't the parents put their house up as collateral. There home must be worth more than $50,000.00
Good point, I wouldn't want any funds to go to Casey if they are pledged for Caylee.
The 50K is the cash part of what the bondsmen get. The family has to put up collateral for the remaining 450K. Their house is not worth 450K.
Audie
08-12-2008, 02:44 PM
I suppose there are things that we don't know and LE and family are not sharing but in my heart I feel Caylee is dead.
Way off theory
I guess someone stole Casey's car after June 24, (Cindy said she is not sure Casey was the last to drive it)
Maybe Caylee was in the car when stolen?
I do not believe any of what I just typed.If Casey didn't park that car there, then Tony is a liar, too.
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:46 PM
Another thing I wanted to point out is: if anyone is watching the supposed kidnappers. Do you think George would put that information out there? NO~! IMO
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 02:46 PM
If Casey didn't park that car there, then Tony is a liar, too.
And if someone stole the car, were they also transporting a dead body in the trunk? And then grew a conscience and got rid of the body before they abandoned the car????? I don't think so......
Audie
08-12-2008, 02:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
".. these people know they are being watched"
:groan:Muddying the water, imo.
scout
08-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Maybe I have been watching too much TV. It seems to me, that if Casey knows who has Caylee, the *smart* thing to do, would be tell LE. LE could schedule a *secret* raid, go in and get Caylee, and then immediately put the whole family in the Witness Protection program. I mean, Casey is supposedly witholding this information to protect Caylee and her family, right?
Let me just add, that I don't believe anybody has Caylee. I think that poor baby is no longer alive at the hands of her mother.
Whoa! Whoa!.. are you the F~M that *I* know??
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:48 PM
The 50K is the cash part of what the bondsmen get. The family has to put up collateral for the remaining 450K. Their house is not worth 450K.
Exactly, it will be impossible for Casey to get out unless some wealthy person comes forward and I do not believe that will happen.
Audie
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
Ok, since my computer needs a new power cord and I was watching the Olympics last night, any new developements? The pictures of the psychic aren't the one's I was talking about, think it may have been on TRUTV? If anyone knows, please let me know, this is driving me nuts.
Also if I type badly this am or get really goofy, it's meds the doc put me on because I got stung by some type of wasp. It was atleast 2" and an orangish red.The couple from Haunting Evidence. They were in Aruba. We talked about that last night. Forgot their names but maybe someone has already posted for you.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
I read an article in which Gale pointed out that she could be wrong, but at least she was looking instead of sitting around talking about it. She isn't paid, and the TV show she is in hasn't been released yet, and I understand she is in danger of losing her house. I wish I had money to send her.
People need to be gentler with us psychics. I give people a lot of messages that make them feel good and in return make me feel good. I don't ever ask for any money because I feel it is a gift that has been given to me to share. However, I don't have much money, and if I ever had to go anywhere to help out in a psychic manner, I would expect to have my expenses paid. I don't see that happening any time soon, because what I get isn't strong enough yet.
Thank you, Redd, for sticking up for her! It makes me feel good!
Oh yw CC. I agree that it is a gift and for the record, she is working with Chip Coffey on the Psychic Kids show and they assisted in trying to find Brian Shaffer and some others. What are your feelings lately on this case, CC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Y7mgIf4Fg&feature=related
scout
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
Muddying the water, imo.
.. mornin' Audie!:happy0207:
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:51 PM
And if someone stole the car, were they also transporting a dead body in the trunk? And then grew a conscience and got rid of the body before they abandoned the car????? I don't think so......
It will be blamed on the wrecker service. They will claim a homeless man crawled into the trunk or some strange story.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 02:51 PM
It's been said a 12 y/o has been instrumental in coordinating the vigils and getting donations.
It's half a million dollars bail so even if there is a cash bond it has to be at least 10% of that. If that's the case why don't the parents put their house up as collateral. There home must be worth more than $50,000.00
Good point, I wouldn't want any funds to go to Casey if they are pledged for Caylee.
LLL they can't use the donations for Caylee, for Casey's release. It's fraud.
Another thing I wanted to point out is: if anyone is watching the supposed kidnappers. Do you think George would put that information out there? NO~! IMO
:67302: That's what I was thinkin' too when I first read it. Why would you say anything then? This whole case is just ridiculous as to finding this child.
Audie
08-12-2008, 02:53 PM
Nicky, there were many psychics that came forward in Natalee's case. Haunting Evidence went there and did an episode. Noreen Renier was one lady. There was a head tapper. I can't recall all the names now. Basically they were all worthless.I can't watch HE with anyone because I laugh too much.
Hi F~M
You have summed up what we are all thinking.
Hi A2L.
I'm slowly becoming obsessed with this whole thing, just as some of you are. I had vowed to never obsess over another missing child case. So much for that. :blondblush113268230
Whoa! Whoa!.. are the F~M that *I* know??
Yes ma'am. :kissyface4:
LiveLaughLuv
08-12-2008, 02:54 PM
CASE LINK: Caylee Anthony
AUDIO LINK: 148 MINUTES
8.7.2008 - audio part 2, 7 minutes
8.9.2008 - audio part 3, 7 minutes
8.10.2008 - audio part 4, 3 minutes
http://briansdreams.com/radio/
Faith
08-12-2008, 02:54 PM
2nd Search In Two Days For Missing 3-Year-Old Orlando Girl Called Off
Girl's Mother Remains Jailed On $500,000 Bond
POSTED: 1:07 pm EDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 1:40 pm EDT August 12, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. -- For the second time in two days, Orange County sheriff's deputies and K-9 units performed a search for Caylee Anthony, the missing 3-year-old Orlando girl who was reported missing in mid-July but hasn't been seen since mid-June.
Orange County sheriff's deputies on Tuesday requested the assistance of Osceola County's K-9 unit and searched a wooded area near the home of Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.
The search was called off and nothing was believed to have been found, Local 6 News reported.
On Monday, deputies searched a wooded area near Lee Vista Boulevard and Narcoossee Road.
Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, remains held on $500,000 bond on charges of child neglect filing a false statement. Casey Anthony said in a 911 call placed in mid-July that she had not seen her daughter for 31 days.
George and Cindy Anthony are scheduled to visit their daughter on Thursday.
Local 6 News also reported Tuesday that DNA evidence from Casey Anthony's car, which was found abandoned last month at an Orange County Amscot, has not yet been returned from the lab.
http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html
mrsmcgoo
08-12-2008, 02:58 PM
It's been said a 12 y/o has been instrumental in coordinating the vigils and getting donations.
It's half a million dollars bail so even if there is a cash bond it has to be at least 10% of that. If that's the case why don't the parents put their house up as collateral. There home must be worth more than $50,000.00
Good point, I wouldn't want any funds to go to Casey if they are pledged for Caylee.
It's been pointed out by a few that they can't or don't have access to those funds, thank goodness. :faintTHUD:
I wonder too about why they don't mortgage the house. Did we ever hear the amount Casey stole from her mothers credit card? I remember hearing a large amount at one time, in the thousands. My thinking is that if they have a credit card limit in the thousands, then they would have to have collateral to be approved for that much. So what's stopping them if this is the case? Are they afraid Casey will flee maybe?
JMO
scout
08-12-2008, 02:59 PM
Yes ma'am. :kissyface4:
:104511:
...lol..:happy0207:
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:00 PM
It's been pointed out by a few that they can't or don't have access to those funds, thank goodness. :faintTHUD:
I wonder too about why they don't mortgage the house. Did we ever hear the amount Casey stole from her mothers credit card? I remember hearing a large amount at one time, in the thousands. My thinking is that if they have a credit card limit in the thousands, then they would have to have collateral to be approved for that much. So what's stopping them if this is the case? Are they afraid Casey will flee maybe?
JMO
We think NG mis-spoke about the $45K credit card spending spree....And they are mortgaged to the hilt...In fact, they owe more on the house, than it's worth...
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:00 PM
:67302: That's what I was thinkin' too when I first read it. Why would you say anything then? This whole case is just ridiculous as to finding this child.
Yes it is, very sad. As a grandmother I would pray to God my granddaughter was safe. However, I don't think I would run my mouth and mislead the public. I also pray I am never in those shoes. If so, I would be thankful, greatful and blessed to have all of you on my team. :friends3:
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:02 PM
We think NG mis-spoke about the $45K credit card spending spree....And they are mortgaged to the hilt...In fact, they owe more on the house, than it's worth...
However, it is true Casey used her CC and ran up the bill, how much, we're not sure.
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:03 PM
However, it is true Casey used her CC and ran up the bill, how much, we're not sure.
True Faith, and it sounds like she stole money also from Cindy and George...
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:04 PM
I can't watch HE with anyone because I laugh too much.
I just don't watch it, period. I get all freaked out with the music. I'm a believer in some but choose to not watch.
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:04 PM
True Faith, and it sounds like she stole money also from Cindy and George...
Yes, according to Cindy's 911 call.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 03:04 PM
as a grandmother and a mother, I cannot FATHOM the actions of anybody in this family. I would be hysterical; i could NOT go on like them; I could never remain emotionless about my daughter, son or granddaughter being missing. However, I do know how to act when I'm covering for somebody and IMO, Cindy, in the very least, is covering for Casey; George? I'm not so sure of. I hope we don't end up choking on our words when this is all said and done and they find precious Caylee kidnapped and still alive - I hope that Casey won't be a "toldjaso"
Yes it is, very sad. As a grandmother I would pray to God my granddaughter was safe. However, I don't think I would run my mouth and mislead the public. I also pray I am never in those shoes. If so, I would be thankful, greatful and blessed to have all of you on my team. :friends3:
Me? :67302:
mrsmcgoo
08-12-2008, 03:05 PM
We think NG mis-spoke about the $45K credit card spending spree....And they are mortgaged to the hilt...In fact, they owe more on the house, than it's worth...
Thanks Trailblazer. I am probably bring up things already discussed here, thank you for you patience with me. lol :redface:
Audie
08-12-2008, 03:07 PM
they should take a bunch of photos of her with oily hair, no makeup, prison grab and threaten to create a myspace page for her.:67302:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Hi A2L.
I'm slowly becoming obsessed with this whole thing, just as some of you are. I had vowed to never obsess over another missing child case. So much for that. :blondblush113268230
This case is so bizarre one can't help being pulled in.
I find myself here and it's hard to look away, so I understand what you are saying.
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I went to Carla Evans and John Oliver's webpages, hoping they would have something on Caylee, but I couldn't find anything.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 03:09 PM
Exactly, it will be impossible for Casey to get out unless some wealthy person comes forward and I do not believe that will happen.
If that was going to happen, it already would have. I think you're right.
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:10 PM
Any PC scheduled for todat?
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:11 PM
Thanks Trailblazer. I am probably bring up things already discussed here, thank you for you patience with me. lol :redface:
Not a problem....sometimes even those of us who have spent all day, everyday here discussing this, forget things....:0012:
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:17 PM
Me? :67302:
You're hired :67302:
Audie
08-12-2008, 03:17 PM
Your true opinion??I had to absorb that interview some. Kinda thru me for a loop. As I posted earlier, about him muddying the water, shows I'm in agreement with you.
jmo
You're hired :67302:
Did you okay this with Pauli first? :67302:
Girl, I would be there for you in a heartbeat!!! :love0085:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 03:21 PM
It is amazing how Cindy has spun Casey not helping find Caylee into Casey the martyr. :frown:
Audie
08-12-2008, 03:22 PM
And if someone stole the car, were they also transporting a dead body in the trunk? And then grew a conscience and got rid of the body before they abandoned the car????? I don't think so......Me neither.
I still think flying saucers have something to do with this.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Not a problem....sometimes even those of us who have spent all day, everyday here discussing this, forget things....:0012:
boy you got THAT right
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Any PC scheduled for todat?
I don't think so...but you never know:shrug1:
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:25 PM
Watch Fox News Now
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:25 PM
Did you okay this with Pauli first? :67302:
Girl, I would be there for you in a heartbeat!!! :love0085:
I know you would. :friends3:
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:27 PM
Me neither.
I still think flying saucers have something to do with this.
LOL:67302:I said aliens abducted her last week.
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:29 PM
Watch Fox News Now
What's happening, I'm stuck at work today instead of being off vause I had to go to doc yesterday
Audie
08-12-2008, 03:30 PM
.. mornin' Audie!:happy0207:Yo! Dog! lol Afternoon scout.
Me neither.
I still think flying saucers have something to do with this.
It's getting to be about that far fetched, don't ya think?
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:31 PM
It's getting to be about that far fetched, don't ya think?
It's about the only lie they haven't told.
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:32 PM
It's about the only lie they haven't told.
Wait...you never know....:67302:
Faith
08-12-2008, 03:32 PM
What's happening, I'm stuck at work today instead of being off vause I had to go to doc yesterday
Nothing new- at least they are still interested.
Dr Boden said watch Casey close and she should be on suicide watch.
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:34 PM
Nothing new- at least they are still interested.
Dr Boden said watch Casey close and she should be on suicide watch.
well then I'd give her something for depression and slip her something that would make her talk.
It's about the only lie they haven't told.
It just upsets me....no mother in their right mind would act the way Casey is acting. I would be devastated that my daughter is gone. I would be screaming at the top of my lungs if I knew someone had her. Hell I would be going and getting her myself if I knew who had her.
Casey needs to fess up, plain and simple. And someone needs to make her do it.
Frustrating......
Lilly
08-12-2008, 03:36 PM
as a grandmother and a mother, I cannot FATHOM the actions of anybody in this family. I would be hysterical; i could NOT go on like them; I could never remain emotionless about my daughter, son or granddaughter being missing. However, I do know how to act when I'm covering for somebody and IMO, Cindy, in the very least, is covering for Casey; George? I'm not so sure of. I hope we don't end up choking on our words when this is all said and done and they find precious Caylee kidnapped and still alive - I hope that Casey won't be a "toldjaso"
Redd.. ITU what you're saying. The family has done so much to earn the public's criticism.. all of this has been NUTS! I'd love to choke on what I've said and Caylee be still alive, unfortunately, I'm afraid none of us will. Even if we do, it doesn't make the families actions more understandable. They've changed the story over, and over and over. It's very frustrating! How can anyone maintain respect for them when they seem non-chalant and are trying to BS everyone?
Claudia
08-12-2008, 03:37 PM
You're hired :67302:
:faintTHUD:
Lilly
08-12-2008, 03:37 PM
well then I'd give her something for depression and slip her something that would make her talk.
hehe.. I like the way you think
mrsmcgoo
08-12-2008, 03:37 PM
Nothing new- at least they are still interested.
Dr Boden said watch Casey close and she should be on suicide watch.
I sure agree with that! Remembering Trenton Duckett's mother :frown:....
Audie
08-12-2008, 03:38 PM
However, it is true Casey used her CC and ran up the bill, how much, we're not sure.Did casey have a cc?
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:38 PM
Nothing new- at least they are still interested.
Dr Boden said watch Casey close and she should be on suicide watch.
I don't buy that....about Casey....She's too into herself to do that....
:faintTHUD:
I know, can ya believe it? :67302:
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 03:40 PM
Did casey have a cc?
Yes I think so.
I don't buy that....about Casey....She's too into herself to do that....
Suicide is another way of getting attention. Usually it's to late. In her case, it would be all about her and why no one is worried about her.
Claudia
08-12-2008, 03:42 PM
I know, can ya believe it? :67302:
Honestly?
No. :serious:
:girl_haha: (love ya Kami!)
Honestly?
No. :serious:
:girl_haha: (love ya Kami!)
:girl_haha::love0085: Love ya too....
nicky
08-12-2008, 03:45 PM
Suicide is another way of getting attention. Usually it's to late. In her case, it would be all about her and why no one is worried about her.
I agree, also talking about doing it, but I dont think she will do it, she's a sociopath, there fore she doesn't feel remorse. Maybe they will bring in a shrink to interview her. Would Baez have to be there if there was a doctor there? If not, they need to bring one in that could hypnotize her.
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 04:01 PM
I agree, also talking about doing it, but I dont think she will do it, she's a sociopath, there fore she doesn't feel remorse. Maybe they will bring in a shrink to interview her. Would Baez have to be there if there was a doctor there? If not, they need to bring one in that could hypnotize her.
She's already had a psychiatric evaluation done by Order of the Court, but the results are sealed (they usually always are) and she is represented by an attorney so everything has to be done through him, unless the Court orders it again, but then he can file appeals, like he's doing in the bond hearing.
Whoever said they need to give her truth serum, sodium penathol, whatever, i agree, unfortunately, in this case, she has rights
Faith
08-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Did casey have a cc?
Not that I'm aware of.
Faith
08-12-2008, 04:21 PM
I don't buy that....about Casey....She's too into herself to do that....
I agree.
Faith
08-12-2008, 04:23 PM
i know, can ya believe it? :67302:
:67302:
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 04:29 PM
Not that I'm aware of.
I thought she had use of one???
scout
08-12-2008, 05:09 PM
... has this been posted yet?
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
The grandfather of the missing Orange County toddler Caylee Anthony made some outrageous claims Tuesday. He said Caylee's kidnappers are currently under surveillance, but detectives don't seem to share that opinion.
Audie
08-12-2008, 05:18 PM
well then I'd give her something for depression and slip her something that would make her talk.Not going there.
Ya know why casey's not talking don't ya?
ReddCurrlz
08-12-2008, 05:20 PM
Not going there.
Ya know why casey's not talking don't ya?
oh audie - enlighten us. Inquiring minds wanna know :hifive:
nicky
08-12-2008, 05:21 PM
Are there any searches going on by private citizens? If so I haven't heard about them. I think that is odd. When JBS went missing here in Bama, alot of people showed up at an area church to help search, as well as law enforcement from other counties. I know she is probably in heaven now, but you would think people would atleast want to find her and give her proper burial.
nicky
08-12-2008, 05:22 PM
oh audie - enlighten us. Inquiring minds wanna know :hifive:
Why's that Audie? You think they broke her teeth with the rubber hose?
scout
08-12-2008, 05:42 PM
OH! NEW STUFF!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Jute ...love this part of the article
Casey's Boyfriend Speaks To Investigators
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
Faith
08-12-2008, 05:47 PM
LOL- I bet he will if asked to by LE
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
nicky
08-12-2008, 05:50 PM
Jute ...love this part of the article
Casey's Boyfriend Speaks To Investigators
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
I thought he said she was at the pool at the apartments on the 13th, plus the DJ said she told them Caylee was at gp, babysitter, nanny....very intresting. Wonder if he had something to do with all this?:faintTHUD:
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 05:53 PM
I thought he said she was at the pool at the apartments on the 13th, plus the DJ said she told them Caylee was at gp, babysitter, nanny....very intresting. Wonder if he had something to do with all this?:faintTHUD:
Tony said that the last time he saw Caylee was on June 2nd....DJ said he saw Caylee on June 13th..then Casey took Caylee home and came back...Tony was already at Fusian when this happened...
IIRC
nicky
08-12-2008, 05:54 PM
LOL- I bet he will if asked to by LE
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
All of these people that are lying and hiding people all need to be beat with a rubber hose or have chinese water torture or even bamboo under their fingernails.:madranting94dp:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 06:09 PM
... has this been posted yet?
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
The grandfather of the missing Orange County toddler Caylee Anthony made some outrageous claims Tuesday. He said Caylee's kidnappers are currently under surveillance, but detectives don't seem to share that opinion.
Great find, scout.
Everytime George was interviewed and made that ridiculous statement, it just cracked me up. I glad to see it was missed by LE!
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 06:12 PM
OH! NEW STUFF!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
(from your link)
(already posted)
-------------------------------
huh? He says he won't be discussing his conversations with LE? Yeah, right.
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 06:13 PM
EXCERPT (from your link)
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
-------------------------------
huh? He says he won't be discussing his conversations with LE? Yeah, right.
I was under the impression he wouldn't discuss it with media :shrug1: At least that's how I read it
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 06:17 PM
I was under the impression he wouldn't discuss it with media :shrug1: At least that's how I read it
:67302: Yes, I see you are right! It's been a long day, silly me :67302:
Isabella
08-12-2008, 06:26 PM
Tony said that the last time he saw Caylee was on June 2nd....DJ said he saw Caylee on June 13th..then Casey took Caylee home and came back...Tony was already at Fusian when this happened...
IIRC
True, and I wonder about on TV I have heard the media (and Cindy of course) say Casey's purse was left in the car when she dumped it but has LE ever said that? I wish we had the towing company log of that tow. Casey IIRC went 'home' that day of the 13th to get ready and change clothes for Fusian, but going by her call to Lee I take it after that point she had most her stuff at Tony's, Casey mentions her stuff not Caylee's, I think Casey wanted to be with him and not be bothered or saddled with Caylee, and if Cindy had never called police we might not know Caylee was missing to this day. jmho
CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 06:47 PM
True, and I wonder about on TV I have heard the media (and Cindy of course) say Casey's purse was left in the car when she dumped it but has LE ever said that? I wish we had the towing company log of that tow. Casey IIRC went 'home' that day of the 13th to get ready and change clothes for Fusian, but going by her call to Lee I take it after that point she had most her stuff at Tony's, Casey mentions her stuff not Caylee's, I think Casey wanted to be with him and not be bothered or saddled with Caylee, and if Cindy had never called police we might not know Caylee was missing to this day. jmho
CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.
Casey never spoke about Caylee's stuff...and I love kinda of centralized...which to me, means that most of her stuff was at Tony's, but she had other stuff at other places... She has never been specific in anything she says...:frustratedf:
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 06:47 PM
Greta is going to bring us the latest.
:rolleyes:
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 06:53 PM
I wonderif Caylee had a favorite blankie or dollie that she slept with and if LE has found it. I doubt that G/C would be honest if asked, but I would love to know all the same. MAybe one of Casey's friends would know.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 06:58 PM
Casey never spoke about Caylee's stuff...and I love kinda of centralized...which to me, means that most of her stuff was at Tony's, but she had other stuff at other places... She has never been specific in anything she says...:frustratedf:
LOL I know what you mean, if Casey went to Tony's and her stuff was there then funny how none of Caylee's was, I suppose she left everything at the Nanny's (one day's worth of clothes) and better yet Cindy who probably did all Caylee's laundry didn't mention all the missing clothes either, and how weird is that if they were going on a trip to Jacksonville for what one or two weeks? Who saw them leave with suitcases for a 'trip'? George said backpacks but I think he meant the purse type backpack myself, and the fact George said Casey said see you tomorrow, but that day never came until 31 days later? Could Cindy really have thought they were going on a trip and didn't take luggage? I am thinking way back but my two yr old required a lot of clothes changes. lol :rolleyes:
Isabella
08-12-2008, 07:00 PM
I wonderif Caylee had a favorite blankie or dollie that she slept with and if LE has found it. I doubt that G/C would be honest if asked, but I would love to know all the same. MAybe one of Casey's friends would know.
Good point, I bet she did and Cindy has never once mentioned anything of Caylee's that is unaccounted for.
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 07:00 PM
:howdy: Afternoon, folks!
Well, well, well, it seems LE has tossed out a small
bone for us per the wesh site...
Maybe something big will happen whilst the A's are out
of town, chasing their tails. :girl_haha:
Really would be a hoot if LE charges Casey with a biggie
whilst G & C are outta town.
Whatta a huge lie George told about the nappers being
watched......:67302: Too bloody funny. I actually had
serious doubts there was a scintilla of truth to that the
first time I heard it. :g:
Isabella
08-12-2008, 07:08 PM
:howdy: Afternoon, folks!
Well, well, well, it seems LE has tossed out a small
bone for us per the wesh site...
Maybe something big will happen whilst the A's are out
of town, chasing their tails. :girl_haha:
Really would be a hoot if LE charges Casey with a biggie
whilst G & C are outta town.
Whatta a huge lie George told about the nappers being
watched......:67302: Too bloody funny. I actually had
serious doubts there was a scintilla of truth to that the
first time I heard it. :g:
:eek: You don't think LE is just sittin there watchin the nappers? :67302:
Seriously where does Cindy, Lee and George get this stuff?
Trailblazer
08-12-2008, 07:10 PM
:eek: You don't think LE is just sittin there watchin the nappers? :67302:
Seriously where does Cindy, Lee and George get this stuff?
They watch TV????? :67302:
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 07:19 PM
:eek: You don't think LE is just sittin there watchin the nappers? :67302:
Seriously where does Cindy, Lee and George get this stuff?
:waitasec:Thing is, how can they be watching the nappers
if they don't know who they are/what they look like? :0009:
I will be happy to find out when all this shakes out, (if
it ever does), exactly why the A's spewed stories like
the ones they come up with.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 07:20 PM
:howdy: Afternoon, folks!
Well, well, well, it seems LE has tossed out a small
bone for us per the wesh site...
Maybe something big will happen whilst the A's are out
of town, chasing their tails. :girl_haha:
Really would be a hoot if LE charges Casey with a biggie
whilst G & C are outta town.
Whatta a huge lie George told about the nappers being
watched......:67302: Too bloody funny. I actually had
serious doubts there was a scintilla of truth to that the
first time I heard it. :g:
Afternoon, DeeJay :happy0207:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 07:22 PM
:eek: You don't think LE is just sittin there watchin the nappers? :67302:
Seriously where does Cindy, Lee and George get this stuff?
Hi Isabella, They probably got from the same place they get all the stories, from Casey.:francis:
I can't watch HE with anyone because I laugh too much.
How about The Pet Psychic?
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 07:27 PM
Afternoon, DeeJay :happy0207:
Afternoon, A2L. :happy0158:
I think it's too funny, LE doesn't know a thing about
the nappers being "watched."
George didn't *think* about how long that lie would
last. :blondblush113268230
G & C should just stop with the lying already. Not helping
the case at all, making it worse.
It just upsets me....no mother in their right mind would act the way Casey is acting. I would be devastated that my daughter is gone. I would be screaming at the top of my lungs if I knew someone had her. Hell I would be going and getting her myself if I knew who had her.
Casey needs to fess up, plain and simple. And someone needs to make her do it.
Frustrating......
One of the TH last night said this case is catching the attention of the whole country - I think it's because of what you said. Who can believe or understand a mother acting like this? It's so shocking that it is nearly impossible to pull oneself away.
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 07:32 PM
How about The Pet Psychic?
http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif
If true G & C hired the psychic and her dogs, they're
looking for a dead body....G & C are looking for a
'live' one.
All too convoluted and frustrating.http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/9.gif
Claycat
08-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Oh yw CC. I agree that it is a gift and for the record, she is working with Chip Coffey on the Psychic Kids show and they assisted in trying to find Brian Shaffer and some others. What are your feelings lately on this case, CC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Y7mgIf4Fg&feature=related
Thank you so much for that link. I love Psychic Kids, and I don't have cable or satellite!
No, I haven't gotten anything new. I'm back and forth between the Weleetka case and this one. (I haven't been sleeping well, because my husband is on a night shift, and I find it hard to sleep when he's not here. It affects my ability to focus.)
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 07:43 PM
I just love :love0085: this part.....
Casey's Boyfriend Speaks To Investigators
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
Suicide is another way of getting attention. Usually it's to late. In her case, it would be all about her and why no one is worried about her.
This site is a self-help site for people with suicidal thoughts; not much applicable here but I did find this list:
Unsuccessful suicidal gestures, thoughts, or threats are often a:
* Cry for help to get people to attend to the problems which you are currently experiencing.
* Manipulative action to keep others from changing their styles of interacting with you.
* Sign of the severe depression and repressed anger that you are experiencing.
* Habit you develop early on which has had a great deal of success in getting you attention.
* Mask to hide behind to scare people away from getting too close or attached to you.
* Desire to have others treating you the way you have been treated in the past with aloofness, distance, and coldness.
* Way to test other people's loyalty, sincerity, interest, caring, love, and concern for you.
* Way by which you exercise control over others.
http://www.coping.org/control/suicide.htm
She's already had a psychiatric evaluation done by Order of the Court, but the results are sealed (they usually always are) and she is represented by an attorney so everything has to be done through him, unless the Court orders it again, but then he can file appeals, like he's doing in the bond hearing.
Whoever said they need to give her truth serum, sodium penathol, whatever, i agree, unfortunately, in this case, she has rights
It's too bad that her baby doesn't. :1187603408.CR.Mothe
Isabella
08-12-2008, 07:46 PM
More Charges Could Be Filed So Casey Will Talk!!
That source also said they believe Casey knows more about what happened to her daughter than she's saying, and they're looking at the possibility of more charges to get her to talk.
They could consider theft charges. A friend said Casey stole $700 from her.
Investigators also said they suspect Casey ran up charges on her parents' credit cards without permission, so credit card fraud could be another charge. And, detectives continue to say she has made numerous false statements. That too could lead to a new charges against the mother.
WESH 2's source said, "We would be open to anything that puts more pressure on her (Casey)."
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
... has this been posted yet?
http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html
The grandfather of the missing Orange County toddler Caylee Anthony made some outrageous claims Tuesday. He said Caylee's kidnappers are currently under surveillance, but detectives don't seem to share that opinion.
Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez said people should not be surprised that Caylee Anthony's mother Casey has turned down her own family's requests to see her. He said the jailed mother does not want their recorded conversations to become public.
"If it comes out that they're close, it could bring harm to Caylee," Baez said
The whole bunch of them - including Baez - should be in jail for obstruction. :mad:
Audie
08-12-2008, 07:51 PM
oh audie - enlighten us. Inquiring minds wanna know :hifive:Sorry to leave you in limbo, but ... but ...
OH! NEW STUFF!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
Scout - thanks, you're really getting good at digging up info. :11_2_104: Must be the new hair. :girl_haha:
Audie
08-12-2008, 07:54 PM
oh audie - enlighten us. Inquiring minds wanna know :hifive:Y'all know. Well I think y'all know. Her child is dead and she don't wanna have to deal with sista' (would that be the female version of bubba?).
Audie
08-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Why's that Audie? You think they broke her teeth with the rubber hose?Um, yea, that too! lol
OH! NEW STUFF!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17113783/detail.html
This is the second time Baez has tried and failed to get Casey's $500,000 bond reduced.
Baez needed the Fifth District Court of Appeals to issue an explanation or reasoning behind their decision to deny Anthony’s bond reduction for a second time, but because they did not give one, he will not be able to take it his appeal to the Florida Supreme Court.
Aaaw. :mad:
Cindy Anthony said the only thing she wanted to share with her daughter on Sunday night was that she was there for support.
"The only reason that George and I were going to try to see her today was just to see how she was doing after yesterday," Cindy Anthony said.
I guess they've completely forgotten about little Caylee. :1187603408.CR.Mothe
Detectives are also eagerly awaiting the results of FBI lab test on hair and a stain the trunk of Casey's car.
Even when those tests come in, investigators said it's a matter of active debate behind closed doors, whether any of those DNA results will be made public.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 08:04 PM
Detectives Investigate 3 Key Dates In Missing 3-Year-Old Girl Mystery
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Sources told Local 6 News on Tuesday that detectives investigating the disappearance of a missing 3-year-old Orlando girl are focusing on three key dates in mid-June and are trying to track the girl's mother's whereabouts during that time.
Investigators with the Orange County Sheriff's Office are trying to track Casey Anthony's whereabouts on June 16, 17 and 18 in connection to the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony reported her daughter missing in mid-July, 31 days after she said she last saw the girl.
Sources told Local 6 News that if something happened to Caylee, it may have occurred on June 16, a day after Father's Day.
June 17 is the day detectives said Casey Anthony borrowed a shovel from a neighbor of her grandparents. The same neighbor said she saw Casey Anthony strangely back her car up into the family's garage on June 18.
Sources said that detectives are trying to track Casey Anthony's whereabouts on the three key dates by using cell phone records. Local 6 News reported that investigators will perform a more thorough search for Caylee using cadaver dogs and search teams when they know more about Casey Anthony's whereabouts during the three days.
Casey Anthony was seen by her father, George Anthony, on June 16 wearing a white shirt and gray dress slacks. The slacks were later discovered in Casey Anthony's car after it was found abandoned at an Orange County Amscot and returned to the grandparents' home.
Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.
Casey Anthony remains held on $500,000 bond on charges of child neglect and filing a false statement.
http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html
Isabella
08-12-2008, 08:10 PM
Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez said people should not be surprised that Caylee Anthony's mother Casey has turned down her own family's requests to see her. He said the jailed mother does not want their recorded conversations to become public.
"If it comes out that they're close, it could bring harm to Caylee," Baez said
The whole bunch of them - including Baez - should be in jail for obstruction. :mad:
Yeah and the longer they wait could bring harm as well,
assuming someone really has her. :frown:
Jute ...love this part of the article
Casey's Boyfriend Speaks To Investigators
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
TB - that just makes the blood rush to my head. :frown: The first interview I saw of Tony, he said that the last time he had seen her was June 2 - and made a comment like she's a cute little kid, or sweet little kid. :frown: I wonder if Casey has figured out that young men want nothing to do with mothers suspected of killing their babies?
I wish I didn't live on the other side of the country, I'd love to go to Fusion and try to talk to some of her acquaintances (they hadn't known her long enough to be called friends) just to get their gut reactions. I would imagine that despite the fact that they're party animals, they are just horrified. It's not that uncommon today for young adults to have very young siblings - they may be thinking of their own brothers and sisters.:frown:
LOL- I bet he will if asked to by LE
Tony Lazzarro, Casey's boyfriend at the time of Caylee's disapperance told investigators he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching for her daughter and said Casey was not in a panic. Lazzarro said Tuesday he will not discuss his conversation with investigators nor his interaction with Casey.
Sources close to the investigation told WESH 2 that they are now trying to pin down where Casey was on those critical days by tracing the towers her cell phone was hitting while she was moving around.
Between June 16-June 18, a source said Casey stayed on and off with her boyfriend Tony Lazzarro. According to that source, Lazzarro has told them he never saw Caylee, never heard Casey talk about searching, never saw any sign that Casey was in any sort of a panic over her daughter's whereabouts.
I think that he meant he wouldn't discuss anything with reporters.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Afternoon, A2L. :happy0158:
I think it's too funny, LE doesn't know a thing about
the nappers being "watched."
George didn't *think* about how long that lie would
last. :blondblush113268230
G & C should just stop with the lying already. Not helping
the case at all, making it worse.
Yes, George must have been amazed because that lie didn't last but a minute! :girl_haha:
True, and I wonder about on TV I have heard the media (and Cindy of course) say Casey's purse was left in the car when she dumped it but has LE ever said that? I wish we had the towing company log of that tow. Casey IIRC went 'home' that day of the 13th to get ready and change clothes for Fusian, but going by her call to Lee I take it after that point she had most her stuff at Tony's, Casey mentions her stuff not Caylee's, I think Casey wanted to be with him and not be bothered or saddled with Caylee, and if Cindy had never called police we might not know Caylee was missing to this day. jmho
CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.
I've thought about the claim that Casey left her purse in the car. In the conversation with Lee about her 2 cells - where they Anthony-spoke so no one could understand - she mentioned that she had more than one purse. Maybe she left an empty one in the car. :shrug1:
Greta is going to bring us the latest.
:rolleyes:
Should I get my helmet out so it won't hurt so much when my head hits the wall? :blondblush113268230
Faith
08-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Hi everyone :happy0207: , I've had a lot of heavy rain today that has prevented me from being here. :groan:
What have I missed?
LOL I know what you mean, if Casey went to Tony's and her stuff was there then funny how none of Caylee's was, I suppose she left everything at the Nanny's (one day's worth of clothes) and better yet Cindy who probably did all Caylee's laundry didn't mention all the missing clothes either, and how weird is that if they were going on a trip to Jacksonville for what one or two weeks? Who saw them leave with suitcases for a 'trip'? George said backpacks but I think he meant the purse type backpack myself, and the fact George said Casey said see you tomorrow, but that day never came until 31 days later? Could Cindy really have thought they were going on a trip and didn't take luggage? I am thinking way back but my two yr old required a lot of clothes changes. lol :rolleyes:
The clothes that Cindy washed from the suitcase (after Casey was arrested) didn't seem to have any of Caylee's things. When my daughter was little, we always kept all toiletries, etc. together - even got clothes mixed together.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 08:29 PM
I've thought about the claim that Casey left her purse in the car. In the conversation with Lee about her 2 cells - where they Anthony-spoke so no one could understand - she mentioned that she had more than one purse. Maybe she left an empty one in the car. :shrug1:
Oh could be Jute, you would think she would need ID to get into the clubs, I still get ID'd to buy cigs, and surely Casey wouldn't be driving without a license right? :waitasec: Yeah she would..lol
:howdy: Afternoon, folks!
Well, well, well, it seems LE has tossed out a small
bone for us per the wesh site...
Maybe something big will happen whilst the A's are out
of town, chasing their tails. :girl_haha: >>>> http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj76/ImReallyNotOkay_TrustMe/Cute/Pixils/DevilSmiley.gif
Really would be a hoot if LE charges Casey with a biggie
whilst G & C are outta town.
Whatta a huge lie George told about the nappers being
watched......:67302: Too bloody funny. I actually had
serious doubts there was a scintilla of truth to that the
first time I heard it. :g:
George didn't say who was watching them or where they are. Maybe they're behind that big sign of his. :mad:
:eek: You don't think LE is just sittin there watchin the nappers? :67302:
Seriously where does Cindy, Lee and George get this stuff?
Don't ask. :girl_haha:
Hi Isabella, They probably got from the same place they get all the stories, from Casey.:francis:
By secret code.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 08:36 PM
Hi everyone :happy0207: , I've had a lot of heavy rain today that has prevented me from being here. :groan:
What have I missed?
:happy0207: Was wondering where you were! lol
Just silly comments from George that the nappers are being watched? :0009:
LE considering filing charges on stolen money to put pressure on Casey, see my last link.
Really I don't think Casey cares, they could pull all her toenails out and I don't think she's gonna talk.
Afternoon, A2L. :happy0158:
I think it's too funny, LE doesn't know a thing about
the nappers being "watched."
George didn't *think* about how long that lie would
last. :blondblush113268230
G & C should just stop with the lying already. Not helping
the case at all, making it worse.
I wonder whether the Anthony's distrust of LE is reflective of George's service as such? :g:
http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif
If true G & C hired the psychic and her dogs, they're
looking for a dead body....G & C are looking for a
'live' one.
All too convoluted and frustrating.http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/9.gif
Her dogs are cadavar dogs. Didn't Cindy deny hiring them? This whole thing is one big fat lie. :groan:
Audie
08-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Why's that Audie? You think they broke her teeth with the rubber hose?
I wonderif Caylee had a favorite blankie or dollie that she slept with and if LE has found it. I doubt that G/C would be honest if asked, but I would love to know all the same. MAybe one of Casey's friends would know.Reminds me of that other little girl in Florida who was buried with her favorite stuffed toy. :cray:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 08:45 PM
Oh could be Jute, you would think she would need ID to get into the clubs, I still get ID'd to buy cigs, and surely Casey wouldn't be driving without a license right? :waitasec: Yeah she would..lol
If Casey left a purse in the car, I think, it was bait to get someone, anyone, to break in an put their finger prints in the car.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 08:46 PM
by secret code.
:67302:
Isabella
08-12-2008, 08:48 PM
If Casey left a purse in the car, I think, it was bait to get someone, anyone, to break in an put their finger prints in the car.
lol You could be right, too bad we wouldn't buy it, only Casey's family would.
Shotzie
08-12-2008, 08:49 PM
T
I wish I didn't live on the other side of the country, I'd love to go to Fusion and try to talk to some of her acquaintances (they hadn't known her long enough to be called friends) just to get their gut reactions. I would imagine that despite the fact that they're party animals, they are just horrified. It's not that uncommon today for young adults to have very young siblings - they may be thinking of their own brothers and sisters.:frown:
Jute I think people do need to go to Fusion and also the tattoo parlor, I am sure she was talking when she had that done, and I imagine it took a long time..enough time to blabbb..maybe??:67302:
I wonder if she had a sketch of what she had done or just told them...hmmm.:confused:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 08:49 PM
I wonder whether the Anthony's distrust of LE is reflective of George's service as such? :g:
hmmmm, there has been some speculation about what kind of LE he was. But, in this case, I think they are weary of LE because LE doesn't buy Casey's or their stories.
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 08:50 PM
George didn't say who was watching them or where they are. Maybe they're behind that big sign of his. :mad:
It makes no sense, G says the nappers are under
surveillance, yet G & C are driving around FL with
the billboard that says, "Have you seen Caylee?"
If the nappers are being watched, then surely the A's
know where Caylee is and who has her.
What sense does all that make? Are they waiting for
the nappers to hand Caylee over? :groan:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 08:51 PM
Reminds me of that other little girl in Florida who was buried with her favorite stuffed toy. :cray:
Wasn't that Jessica Lunsford?
sunstar
08-12-2008, 08:55 PM
I wonderif Caylee had a favorite blankie or dollie that she slept with and if LE has found it. I doubt that G/C would be honest if asked, but I would love to know all the same. MAybe one of Casey's friends would know.
Hi KittyMom & everybody! :0012: When I read your post :1187603408.CR.Mothe it also made me wonder about something else we haven't heard, or at least I don't remember. What was with Caylee when this "nanny" supposedly abducted her? Like did Casey supposedly leave a favorite toy, drink cup or something with her? If nothing of Caylee's is missing like that it sure would go to showing that scenario never happened, imo.
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 08:55 PM
Wasn't that Jessica Lunsford?
Yes.
Audie
08-12-2008, 08:56 PM
good point, i bet she did and cindy has never once mentioned anything of caylee's that is unaccounted for.backpack!!!
sunstar
08-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Wasn't that Jessica Lunsford?
Yes it was :1187603408.CR.Mothe and her little dolphin.
Harmony
08-12-2008, 08:57 PM
TB - that just makes the blood rush to my head. :frown: The first interview I saw of Tony, he said that the last time he had seen her was June 2 - and made a comment like she's a cute little kid, or sweet little kid. :frown: I wonder if Casey has figured out that young men want nothing to do with mothers suspected of killing their babies?
I wish I didn't live on the other side of the country, I'd love to go to Fusion and try to talk to some of her acquaintances (they hadn't known her long enough to be called friends) just to get their gut reactions. I would imagine that despite the fact that they're party animals, they are just horrified. It's not that uncommon today for young adults to have very young siblings - they may be thinking of their own brothers and sisters.:frown:
(Pure speculation on my part)
Ricardo Morales' myspace
date of last log in 8/12/08
mood: disgusted
http://www.myspace.com/johnnymcqueefer
sunstar
08-12-2008, 08:58 PM
If Casey left a purse in the car, I think, it was bait to get someone, anyone, to break in an put their finger prints in the car.
Oh I definitely agree, and probably to steal the car.
sunstar
08-12-2008, 08:59 PM
backpack!!!
Have we heard anything about where that is?
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 09:02 PM
Detectives Investigate 3 Key Dates In Missing 3-Year-Old Girl Mystery
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Sources told Local 6 News on Tuesday that detectives investigating the disappearance of a missing 3-year-old Orlando girl are focusing on three key dates in mid-June and are trying to track the girl's mother's whereabouts during that time.
Investigators with the Orange County Sheriff's Office are trying to track Casey Anthony's whereabouts on June 16, 17 and 18 in connection to the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony reported her daughter missing in mid-July, 31 days after she said she last saw the girl.
Sources told Local 6 News that if something happened to Caylee, it may have occurred on June 16, a day after Father's Day.
June 17 is the day detectives said Casey Anthony borrowed a shovel from a neighbor of her grandparents. The same neighbor said she saw Casey Anthony strangely back her car up into the family's garage on June 18.
Sources said that detectives are trying to track Casey Anthony's whereabouts on the three key dates by using cell phone records. Local 6 News reported that investigators will perform a more thorough search for Caylee using cadaver dogs and search teams when they know more about Casey Anthony's whereabouts during the three days.
Casey Anthony was seen by her father, George Anthony, on June 16 wearing a white shirt and gray dress slacks. The slacks were later discovered in Casey Anthony's car after it was found abandoned at an Orange County Amscot and returned to the grandparents' home.
Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.
Casey Anthony remains held on $500,000 bond on charges of child neglect and filing a false statement.
http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html
Arrest Cindy. :madranting94dp:
Audie
08-12-2008, 09:03 PM
I just want to say, before NG starts, that that large wooded area east of their house would take many many searchers, a couple days to cover it thouroughly. I don't think LE can cover it by themselves. JMO
chambord
08-12-2008, 09:03 PM
I really hate to do this, but I had to log off at 11am this morning. Have I missed anything that I should be aware of? I feel so out of it. Sorry for interuppting the regularly programmed broadcast.:lex_10:
Isabella
08-12-2008, 09:03 PM
backpack!!!
Yeah, I think it was like a purse and I picture Caylee had a backpack wanting to be just like momma, makes me sick. :frown:
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 09:06 PM
backpack!!!
I'd like to hear from someone outside of the Anthony family about anything like a blankie or the backpack. I think the Anthonys have proven consistently to lie.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 09:07 PM
Arrest Cindy. :madranting94dp:
Good catch Kitty! Cindy didn't even start cooperating until recently did she?
Yep arrest her. :zm10:
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 09:08 PM
Oh I definitely agree, and probably to steal the car.
Exactly. And she parked it in a place where she thought people of the type to steal cars would be.
Faith
08-12-2008, 09:08 PM
:happy0207: Was wondering where you were! lol
Just silly comments from George that the nappers are being watched? :0009:
LE considering filing charges on stolen money to put pressure on Casey, see my last link.
Really I don't think Casey cares, they could pull all her toenails out and I don't think she's gonna talk.
Thanks Isabella.
KittyMom
08-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Good catch Kitty! Cindy didn't even start cooperating until recently did she?
Yep arrest her. :zm10:
Cindy was CYA when she went into that long explanation about the clothes in the back of the car. She wanted her side in the news before LE started asking questions.
awakening2lite
08-12-2008, 09:16 PM
TH's on NG think Casey might point the finger at Tony, next
sunstar
08-12-2008, 09:20 PM
I really hate to do this, but I had to log off at 11am this morning. Have I missed anything that I should be aware of? I feel so out of it. Sorry for interuppting the regularly programmed broadcast.:lex_10:
Hi cham! :0012: I just got here a little bit ago and am trying to catch up and read the article Isabella posted about the 3 key dates LE is looking at.
Isabella
08-12-2008, 09:21 PM
Just an FYI BTW having worked in the cell phone industry, the cell tower is registered when you make a call or when you recv a call.
That could well be her downfall if they can determine which tower her phone was pinging on on the 16th and 16th of June when she made those 'frantic' calls. I hope so anyway.
DeeJay
08-12-2008, 09:21 PM
Cindy was CYA when she went into that long explanation about the clothes in the back of the car. She wanted her side in the news before LE started asking questions.
She also gave 2 different stories about washing the
pinstriped slacks.
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