Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #22

[Faith]

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Information Threads (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=146)
Caylee discussion thread #1 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6702)
Caylee discussion thread #2 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6849)
Caylee discussion thread #3 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6866)
Caylee discussion thread #4 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6888)
Caylee discussion thread #5 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6912)
Caylee discussion thread #6 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6927)
Caylee discussion thread #7 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6947)
Caylee discussion thread #8 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6978)
Caylee discussion thread #9 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7002)
Caylee discussion thread #10 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7025)
Caylee discussion thread #11 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7047)
Caylee discussion thread #12 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7059)
Caylee discussion thread #13 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7079)
Caylee discussion Thread #14 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7101)
Caylee discussion thread #15 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7123)
Caylee discussion thread #16 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7158)
Caylee discussion thread #17 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7175)
Caley discussion thread #18 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7205)
Caylee discussion thread #19 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7221)
Caylee discussion thread #20 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7237)
Caylee discussion thread #21 (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7246)

[sciencegirl]

I agree, and don't see what good it's going to do in finding Caylee. It seems obvious Casey has her story what happened and I don't see that changing or anybody being able to find her just because Casey's locked up on house arrest. It's been 2 mo. since Caylee was last seen and a month since Casey's arrest, and LE hasn't found anything to support Casey's version of events. If anything, especially with what Clint said the other day, it looks more and more like something bad happened to Caylee. :frown:

I'm sorry; I missed what Clint had to say. What was it all about? I just love him.

[sunstar]

B/c they can (and do) slip the anklet and go out and
do whatever.

Calling or showing up in the middle of the night, how
soon would that get old?

The first night would do it for me & I'd put a stop to the inmate living with me.

And they are subject to being called in for random testing too, whenever LE feels like it. I agree with you, and wouldn't even want her in my house even if she was my daughter. Of course, I probably wouldn't still be in such denial and my first concern would be just not trusting her there knowing what she's probably capable of. MOO, of course. :smile:

[sunstar]

I'm sorry; I missed what Clint had to say. What was it all about? I just love him.

Clint, Tony's former roommate, said he didn't see Caylee past mid-June, and Casey told them (him & Tony) that Caylee was with the grandparents or nanny all the time. Also that he never thought anything was out of the ordinary with her and never heard her talking about ZFG or any "abduction". Plus, her going to Fusian and partying. To me, this is the best 'evidence' that she did something to Caylee.

[sciencegirl]

Clint, Tony's former roommate, said he didn't see Caylee past mid-June, and Casey told them (him & Tony) that Caylee was with the grandparents or nanny all the time. Also that he never thought anything was out of the ordinary with her and never heard her talking about ZFG or any "abduction". Plus, her going to Fusian and partying. To me, this is the best 'evidence' that she did something to Caylee.

Oh my...thank you. I must have missed that interview.

[Faith]

Clint, Tony's former roommate, said he didn't see Caylee past mid-June, and Casey told them (him & Tony) that Caylee was with the grandparents or nanny all the time. Also that he never thought anything was out of the ordinary with her and never heard her talking about ZFG or any "abduction". Plus, her going to Fusian and partying. To me, this is the best 'evidence' that she did something to Caylee.

Clint also said Caylee was there for the first half of the month but Tony said he hasn't seen Caylee since June 2. :0009:

[Faith]

:happy0207: See yall later on--enjoy your evening.

[DeeJay]

If I understand correctly, someone, not the
BH's, still have got to come up with the $50 grand.

On another note, I hope this BH thing blows up in
Baez' face. :s1gyahoo:

Sounds like the BHs are litterally going to take full
control of Casey.

[sunstar]

Oh my...thank you. I must have missed that interview.

He had a long interview with Greta this past week! :smile:

[sunstar]

Clint also said Caylee was there for the first half of the month but Tony said he hasn't seen Caylee since June 2. :0009:

I'll have to go try to hunt down that date. I was sure it was more in line with what Clint had said. :shrug1: :INhouseReading04:

[sunstar]

If I understand correctly, someone, not the
BH's, still have got to come up with the $50 grand.

On another note, I hope this BH thing blows up in
Baez' face. :s1gyahoo:

Sounds like the BHs are litterally going to take full
control of Casey.

I thought he said he'd pay it? I got confused on this part because I didn't think they could and I still can't figure out why they want to other than publicity.

[Trailblazer]

:happy0207: See yall later on--enjoy your evening.


Have fun Faith and see ya later :0012:

[Faith]

JUNE 2, 2008

*Anthony Lazzaro states he last saw Caylee Anthony on or about this date while she was at the complex pool.

Anthony Lazzaro called claiming he first learned of Caylee’s disappearance by deputies coming to his house ear~ this morning and inquiring about it. He claims he met the defendant in May and had been dating her since June. He claims he last saw Caylee on or about June 2nd white atthe pool at his complex. He had not seen Caylee since. He has never met Zenaida nor knows where she lives. It was he that contacted Amy Huizenga and had he call me regarding this case. Anthony said while the defendant lived with her since June 9th, she mentioned several times that Caylee was with the “nanny” at Disney, Universal Studios, or the beach. She never gave him any indication that the child was endangered or missing. Detective Gerald White later obtained a sworn statement from Anthony regarding this.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf


It's all in our timeline SS
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6956

[sunstar]

sciencegirl ~ here's links to his interview!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403801,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404241,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403448,00.html

[sunstar]

JUNE 2, 2008

*Anthony Lazzaro states he last saw Caylee Anthony on or about this date while she was at the complex pool.

Anthony Lazzaro called claiming he first learned of Caylee’s disappearance by deputies coming to his house ear~ this morning and inquiring about it. He claims he met the defendant in May and had been dating her since June. He claims he last saw Caylee on or about June 2nd white atthe pool at his complex. He had not seen Caylee since. He has never met Zenaida nor knows where she lives. It was he that contacted Amy Huizenga and had he call me regarding this case. Anthony said while the defendant lived with her since June 9th, she mentioned several times that Caylee was with the “nanny” at Disney, Universal Studios, or the beach. She never gave him any indication that the child was endangered or missing. Detective Gerald White later obtained a sworn statement from Anthony regarding this.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf


It's all in our timeline SS
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6956

Thanks Faith! All these different dates are so confusing especially when the 9th turned into the 16th and so forth. I do suppose they both could be right though and maybe Clint saw her after Tony last did. :groan:

[DeeJay]

And they are subject to being called in for random testing too, whenever LE feels like it. I agree with you, and wouldn't even want her in my house even if she was my daughter. Of course, I probably wouldn't still be in such denial and my first concern would be just not trusting her there knowing what she's probably capable of. MOO, of course. :smile:


Random testing is also done, ur correct. I was thinking
along the lines of middle of the night phone calls. sheesh!
That'd only last one night with me.

No, my kid or not, I wouldn't wait a *bailed* one living at
my house. No way! That "?" mark would be
screaming in the back of my mind constantly. :francis:

Thing is, I don't think the A's are too swift.....They've
shown me that in the way they've reacted throughout
this entire fiasco. They've made a bad situation worse,
by what they've said or done.

All the reasons they are so lacking with support form the general public.

The A's have done it all to & by themselves.

[sunstar]

Random testing is also done, ur correct. I was thinking
along the lines of middle of the night phone calls. sheesh!
That'd only last one night with me.

No, my kid or not, I wouldn't wait a *bailed* one living at
my house. No way! That "?" mark would be
screaming in the back of my mind constantly. :francis:

Thing is, I don't think the A's are too swift.....They've
shown me that in the way they've reacted throughout
this entire fiasco. They've made a bad situation worse,
by what they've said or done.

All the reasons they are so lacking with support form the general public.

The A's have done it all to & by themselves.

One thing I was thinking they would react to was what Clint told Greta about Casey saying they were babysitting Caylee during June, which is opposite of what Cindy even said during the 911 calls that she hadn't seen Caylee. Doesn't she realize by now that practically everything Casey says is untrue? So why, other than being in denial, do they think ZFG exists and has Caylee? I know I would've lost all credibility with my parents long ago! :smile:

[Pauli]

If I understand correctly, someone, not the
BH's, still have got to come up with the $50 grand.

On another note, I hope this BH thing blows up in
Baez' face. :s1gyahoo:

Sounds like the BHs are litterally going to take full
control of Casey.

I thought he said he'd pay it? I got confused on this part because I didn't think they could and I still can't figure out why they want to other than publicity.

They are putting up a 'surety bond' that means the $50k does not have to be paid. The surety bond guarantees the whole $500k if Casey fails to show up for any court dates. The bondsman has a line of credit with a surety company...

[sunstar]

They are putting up a 'surety bond' that means the $50k does not have to be paid. The surety bond guarantees the whole $500k if Casey fails to show up for any court dates. The bondsman has a line of credit with a surety company...

Oh ~ thank you!! Now I understand how it works!

[Emyo]

Random testing is also done, ur correct. I was thinking
along the lines of middle of the night phone calls. sheesh!
That'd only last one night with me.

No, my kid or not, I wouldn't wait a *bailed* one living at
my house. No way! That "?" mark would be
screaming in the back of my mind constantly. :francis:

Thing is, I don't think the A's are too swift.....They've
shown me that in the way they've reacted throughout
this entire fiasco. They've made a bad situation worse,
by what they've said or done.

All the reasons they are so lacking with support form the general public.

The A's have done it all to & by themselves.

This is what I know about house arrest and the ankle bracelet. The probation department is who runs the program. You get a machine that hooks up to the phone and is set for the bracelet. Random calls are put through to the home but the phone does not ring. You will see lights go off on the machine when the call comes in. The machine then detects if the bracelet is in range. If it is not in range the machine can make a horrible noise like a fax machine. It will also show the time you left and when you returned.

Anyways, the probation officer in charge checks that data at the probation office to see that all the calls detected the bracelet. If not they go and get you and put you back in jail.

The people in the home have to sign an agreement that they will not talk on the phone for any longer than a certain length of time. If when the machine is called and they get a busy signal then the machine calls back in a few minutes to try again. The probation officer in charge can show up at the home at anytime. I doubt they would come in the middle of the night, though.

[DeeJay]

One thing I was thinking they would react to was what Clint told Greta about Casey saying they were babysitting Caylee during June, which is opposite of what Cindy even said during the 911 calls that she hadn't seen Caylee. Doesn't she realize by now that practically everything Casey says is untrue? So why, other than being in denial, do they think ZFG exists and has Caylee? I know I would've lost all credibility with my parents long ago! :smile:

Mmmm...well let's see....:waitasec: Like I said, I do not
believe the A's are too swift. I do not
believe singley or together, they cannot put 2 & 2 together.

And what happened, early on to the "pieces of the
puzzle" Cindy was putting together to solve
the missing Caylee mystery, shortly after Cindy had
a jail visit with Casey?[/I][/B]

Still waiting for Cindy to put those puzzle pieces together
and show it to all of us. :boredom:

[DeeJay]

They are putting up a 'surety bond' that means the $50k does not have to be paid. The surety bond guarantees the whole $500k if Casey fails to show up for any court dates. The bondsman has a line of credit with a surety company...

But Leonard has been asked about 3 times about putting
up the 10%, "who's going to put up the 10%?" Jamie on
FoxNews asked that right upfront this morning....LP never
did answer either way....again.

Each time, he's never answered. He's not said it doesn't
have to be put up with the surety bond, nor that he or
his nephew will pay it.

That man is SO CONFUSING!! :doh: Half the time he
bypasses questions and goes on to something else. :boredom:

[DeeJay]

This is what I know about house arrest and the ankle bracelet. The probation department is who runs the program. You get a machine that hooks up to the phone and is set for the bracelet. Random calls are put through to the home but the phone does not ring. You will see lights go off on the machine when the call comes in. The machine then detects if the bracelet is in range. If it is not in range the machine can make a horrible noise like a fax machine. It will also show the time you left and when you returned.
<respectfully snipped>



Yeah, which brings me back to what I stated earlier....
inmates can and do slip the ankle
bracelets off and leave the house. (I heard
about this in a case a few years ago.)

More reason they should be called and talked to
by phone any hour of the day or night.

[sunstar]

This is what I know about house arrest and the ankle bracelet. The probation department is who runs the program. You get a machine that hooks up to the phone and is set for the bracelet. Random calls are put through to the home but the phone does not ring. You will see lights go off on the machine when the call comes in. The machine then detects if the bracelet is in range. If it is not in range the machine can make a horrible noise like a fax machine. It will also show the time you left and when you returned.

Anyways, the probation officer in charge checks that data at the probation office to see that all the calls detected the bracelet. If not they go and get you and put you back in jail.

The people in the home have to sign an agreement that they will not talk on the phone for any longer than a certain length of time. If when the machine is called and they get a busy signal then the machine calls back in a few minutes to try again. The probation officer in charge can show up at the home at anytime. I doubt they would come in the middle of the night, though.
Thanks for the information! So then, if she was staying at the Anthonys, they couldn't use the home phone for any lengthy calls, if at all, in order so that the machine could get through. That might be a small inconvenience for them!

[sunstar]

Mmmm...well let's see....:waitasec: Like I said, I do not
believe the A's are too swift. I do not
believe singley or together, they cannot put 2 & 2 together.

And what happened, early on to the "pieces of the
puzzle" Cindy was putting together to solve
the missing Caylee mystery, shortly after Cindy had
a jail visit with Casey?[/I][/B]

Still waiting for Cindy to put those puzzle pieces together
and show it to all of us. :boredom:
I don't think there are many pieces of the puzzle to put together ~ at least not in the direction she's going with them. MOO! :smile:

[Emyo]

Yeah, which brings me back to what I stated earlier....
inmates can and do slip the ankle
bracelets off and leave the house. (I heard
about this in a case a few years ago.)

More reason they should be called and talked to
by phone any hour of the day or night.


ITA! it should be used for inmates that do not have so much to lose! Like the rest of her life.

[DeeJay]

I don't think there are many pieces of the puzzle to put together ~ at least not in the direction she's going with them. MOO! :smile:

OHHHH...But don't you recall how she said it with
such relief and conviction!!??

[sunstar]

ITA! it should be used for inmates that do not have so much to lose! Like the rest of her life.

I agree. This is what is so weird about "bail" imo. Like Spector, charged with murder, out on bail. Like Casey, who may have killed her little girl, possible out on bail, even though monitored with an ankle bracelet. I just wish they'd get the lab test results back SOON! :groan:

[sunstar]

OHHHH...But don't you recall how she said it with
such relief and conviction!!??

Oh yes, I do! :girl_haha:

[LiveLaughLuv]

Leonard Padilla's nephew is putting up a $500,000.00 surety bond, so there is no 10% or $50,000 that has to be put up.

Padilla also stated, he will be with Casey 24/7, if not at the Anthony's home then at a safe house.

I said long ago, to let her out and monitor her with that anklet. She is doing nothing to solve Caylee's alleged disappearance, so let Padilla do his job and see if he can get to the bottom of this. He seems to think Caylee is still alive since nothing has pointed to Caylee's demise. He thinks Casey did hand Caylee over to someone, only if she was high on drugs/alcohol she may not have known who. Which I think is totally off the mark,BS, how does a mother not know who she left her baby with.

I also feel she may have "adopted" her out and had second thoughts. She may have felt like a financial burden, she also did not bond with Caylee as Cindy did.

Anyway, she's been jailed for 31 days, twice as long as Caylee's been missing so I do hold on to that shimmer of hope that Caylee will be found.

[chambord]

I haven't read back yet since I logged off earlier, but check out post #98 at Websleuths.

[Pauli]

But Leonard has been asked about 3 times about putting
up the 10%, "who's going to put up the 10%?" Jamie on
FoxNews asked that right upfront this morning....LP never
did answer either way....again.

Each time, he's never answered. He's not said it doesn't
have to be put up with the surety bond, nor that he or
his nephew will pay it.

That man is SO CONFUSING!! :doh: Half the time he
bypasses questions and goes on to something else. :boredom:


PADILLA: No. My nephew -- my nephew will put up a bond in the value of $500 thou. He has a line of credit and a line of guarantee with a surety company out of Houston, Texas. And he`ll post a bond through a local bondsman.

GRACE: How much does he have to put up?

PADILLA: $500,000 in value. In other words, if she was to fail to appear he would then have 90 days in which to bring her back into court or he would lose $500 thou to Orange County.

GRACE: So you don`t have to put just 10 percent?

PADILLA: No, no, he`s got to put up a bond worth 500 grand.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6922&page=2

[Jute]

Clint, Tony's former roommate, said he didn't see Caylee past mid-June, and Casey told them (him & Tony) that Caylee was with the grandparents or nanny all the time. Also that he never thought anything was out of the ordinary with her and never heard her talking about ZFG or any "abduction". Plus, her going to Fusian and partying. To me, this is the best 'evidence' that she did something to Caylee.

I really would like to know where she was leaving Caylee when she was at Tony's prior to 6/16. Clint said Caylee was never there overnight but Casey was there nearly every night. Making arrangements - or worse, locking Caylee up somewhere - every night must have started to wear on her patience.

[Trailblazer]

Leonard Padilla's nephew is putting up a $500,000.00 surety bond, so there is no 10% or $50,000 that has to be put up.

Padilla also stated, he will be with Casey 24/7, if not at the Anthony's home then at a safe house.

I said long ago, to let her out and monitor her with that anklet. She is doing nothing to solve Caylee's alleged disappearance, so let Padilla do his job snipped

Padilla is a bounty hunter...not a detective or investigator...His job it to find those that skip bail and return them....He's just interferring with LE IMO


Anyway, she's been jailed for 31 days, twice as long as Caylee's been missing so I do hold on to that shimmer of hope that Caylee will be found.

Caylee has been missing since June 16th (61 days)...that's twice as long as Casey has been in jail...not the other way around....

[LiveLaughLuv]

Caylee has been missing since June 16th (61 days)...that's twice as long as Casey has been in jail...not the other way around....


OOPS, thanks trailblazer I did have that backwards. That is what I meant. Caylee is missing for twice as long as Casey has been jailed...

[Jute]

I'll have to go try to hunt down that date. I was sure it was more in line with what Clint had said. :shrug1: :INhouseReading04:

Hi SS! :happy0207: I tried to find it for you but couldn't - every post with "june" in it came up. :girl_haha:

[Trailblazer]

I just heard Padilla say that Casey has agreed with the deal, having Padilla spring her and having someone with her 24/7...and so is Baez...interesting...

[DeeJay]

Leonard Padilla's nephew is putting up a $500,000.00 surety bond, so there is no 10% or $50,000 that has to be put up.

Padilla also stated, he will be with Casey 24/7, if not at the Anthony's home then at a safe house.

I said long ago, to let her out and monitor her with that anklet. She is doing nothing to solve Caylee's alleged disappearance, so let Padilla do his job and see if he can get to the bottom of this. He seems to think Caylee is still alive since nothing has pointed to Caylee's demise. He thinks Casey did hand Caylee over to someone, only if she was high on drugs/alcohol she may not have known who. Which I think is totally off the mark,BS, how does a mother not know who she left her baby with.

I also feel she may have "adopted" her out and had second thoughts. She may have felt like a financial burden, she also did not bond with Caylee as Cindy did.

Anyway, she's been jailed for 31 days, twice as long as Caylee's been missing so I do hold on to that shimmer of hope that Caylee will be found.

Even if she did (Hypothecially) leave Caylee with someone
whom she can't recall nor where they live...don't ya think
the "sitter" would have come forward on the first day and
told LE;

"Someone left their kid with me and never came
back to get her?" So LP's theory is worse
than Caseys'.

I don't see where Caylee was a financial problem for
Casey.....CINDY had been supporting both of them
since day one. Casey has been totally dependant on
her parents since the day she was born....Caylee is born
and Cindy's been paying for everything for her, too.

Casey hasn't spent a cent on Caylee's support. Casey
has never had 2 nickles of her own to rub together.

I am sticking with an accident.....I see the pool as the
death trap.

It does happen to the best of parents as well as the worst of parents.

Also, I think Casey was lectured by Cindy to be especially
careful beginning this Summer b/c Caylee was old enough
this year to climb the pool ladder. Last Summer she was
barely 1 yr. old and the ladder would have been a difficult
climb.

I say, Casey let her guard down for a minute or two,
Caylee got into the pool and drowned. Casey took
matters into her own hands from there.

That's my theory & I'm stickin' to it.

[sunstar]

I really would like to know where she was leaving Caylee when she was at Tony's prior to 6/16. Clint said Caylee was never there overnight but Casey was there nearly every night. Making arrangements - or worse, locking Caylee up somewhere - every night must have started to wear on her patience.

That's just it ~ nobody's said anything to contradict what Clint said, so was Caylee really with her grandparents every night before the 16th? That must have gone over very well with them, having to babysit while Casey was with her boyfriend all night. And if anybody saw Caylee after the 16th nobody's come forward with that either. :shrug1:

[sunstar]

Hi SS! :happy0207: I tried to find it for you but couldn't - every post with "june" in it came up. :girl_haha:

I went to the timeline like Faith said, and it's there several times. Faith also brought a post over from there with that date. It was at Tony's apt. complex swimming pool on 6/2, according to him. :smile:

[LiveLaughLuv]

Caylee Anthony's mother set to bond out of jail?
Sarah Lundy and Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writers
9:59 AM EDT, August 16, 2008
The mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony may be out of jail in a few days.

A California bondsman is flying to Orlando on Sunday with the sole purpose of putting up the money to secure Casey Anthony's release. That means Anthony could be freed from the Orange County Jail as early as Monday afternoon or Tuesday.

Anthony, 22, has been held on charges of child neglect and filing a false report since July 16. Investigators have characterized the single mom as a "person of interest" in Caylee's disappearance, which was reported in July -- a month after the toddler was last seen.

On Saturday morning, Anthony declined a scheduled video visitation with her brother Lee Anthony, according to Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County Jail. Moore said that Casey Anthony told the on-duty corporal at the jail that she refused the visit on the advice of counsel.



Complete coverage of missing Caylee Marie Anthony Anthony's lawyer has been unsuccessful in trying to win reduction of her bail, which a judge set at $500,200.

A group from Tony Padilla Bail Bonds, based in Sacramento, Calif., is scheduled to arrive at Orlando International Airport at 4 p.m. Sunday, said Leonard Padilla, a bounty hunter and Tony Padilla's uncle. Leonard Padilla has been a perpetual candidate for public office in California. He ran in 2006 for Sacramento County supervisor and has run several times for Sacramento mayor -- most recently in June, when he was defeated in the primary. In 2005, he announced a bid for a congressional seat. And he was among the many candidates vying to replace recalled Gov. Gray Davis in 2003.

The bail-bond company is affiliated with Texas-based Financial Surety, which is licensed in Florida -- making it legal for the West Coast company to put up funds for Anthony's release.

Anthony's lead attorney, Jose Baez, and a third party contacted the company about arranging a bond, Padilla said. Baez could not be reached for comment Friday.

Padilla said he thinks Caylee is alive and that Anthony is not a flight risk.

When released, Anthony will be confined to her home and must wear an electronic monitor on her ankle that will alert authorities if she leaves an approved area or tampers with the device.

If she flees, the bondsman could lose the $500,200.

The Padilla family has been in the bail-bond business for three decades and has handled several high-profile cases. It's not unusual for the company to travel far to post bond, Leonard Padilla said.

Anthony's attorneys tried twice but failed to get the court to lower the bail so her family could afford to get her out. They were not able to come up with the 10 percent fee wanted by local bondsmen.

Leonard Padilla said he would not discuss the financial arrangements.

News of Casey Anthony's possible release came the same day that her family acquired a spokesman. Larry Garrison, who is based in Los Angeles, said he will handle media inquiries for the family. "They will not be speaking publicly anymore," he said by phone Friday.

Garrison is a film and television producer, journalist and actor. He is an author of Aruba: The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise, about the 2005 disappearance of an Alabama teenager.
He also represented the family of John Mark Karr, the man who falsely admitted to killing Colorado 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.

Garrison said he has been watching the Caylee Anthony coverage and reached out to the family when he saw the "spin" happening in the media.

"I have never seen a case so blown out of proportion," he said.

Casey Anthony has told investigators she left the child with a baby sitter, who cannot be found. Media coverage inferring that Caylee might be dead kept at least two people who claim to have seen Caylee alive from alerting authorities, Garrison said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-caylee1608aug16,0,4717404.story

[awakening2lite]

Brevard County Florida, Clerk of the Court answers:


Q4:
What is a bail bond?

A4:


A bail bond is a document which assures to the court that a person charged with an offense and who typically is in jail, will, if released from incarceration appear for future court dates and remain in the jurisdiction of the court.

For example, if a person is charged with violating the law and is taken into custody by law enforcement, that person will be held in jail until they can see a judge. The judge will decide the amount and type of the bond based on the gravity of the charges and/or the prior record of the defendant. It is also possible that the judge may order the defendant released without requiring a bail bond.

There are very specific charges that a defendant may be able to bond out on without the necessity of seeing a judge. One example of this is an arrest as the result of a bench warrant. The amount of the bond may have been set at the time the bench warrant was signed by the judge. Another example is those charges that have a bond schedule established.

Generally speaking, 2 types of bail bonds are utilized. A surety bond is a written guarantee by a bonding company ensuring the appearance of a defendant for all future court dates. A surety bond is an independent agreement between the defendant and the bonding company. Normally the defendant is required by the bonding company to deposit with them a nonrefundable percentage of the overall bond amount. The bonding company is essentially providing the court with an insurance policy that the defendant will appear in court and is then liable for the full amount of the bond if the defendant does not appear.

If the defendant fails to appear for court, the bond can be forfeited by the judge. Once the defendant is re-arrested for the failure to appear, they will be required to go through the bonding process again, attempting to bond out on the initial charge, and the failure to appear charge. It is possible for the bonding company to produce the defendant and request the judge to waive the forfeiture. The defendant will still be required to post a bond, if any, on the failure to appear charge.

After the case has been disposed by the court the surety bond will be released and a certificate of discharge will be sent to the bonding company by the Clerk's office.

The other type of bond traditionally used is a cash bond. If a cash bond is ordered by the judge, the total amount of the bond will have to be posted with the jail before the defendant will be released. If for any reason the defendant fails to appear for court, the judge presiding over the case may forfeit the bond. The money will then be held in a special forfeiture fund pending any orders issued by the judge.

If a cash bond is posted, after the case has been disposed by the court, the cash bond will be returned to the party who posted the bond. However, the judge may order the deduction of any fine amounts from the cash bond. Once the judge releases the bond, the Clerk's office will prepare a check, minus any judicially ordered deductions and mail it to the appropriate party within 10 days of receipt of the judges order.

Pursuant to Florida Statute 903.286, any cash bond posted on or after 07/01/2005 will be applied to any upaid court fees, court costs, and criminal penalties. It does not matter who posted the bond for the defendant. If the defendant has any unpaid criminal fees, court costs, or penalties, the bond will be applied to those obligations. Any funds remaining after all of the above noted fees are paid will be refunded to the depositor.

source: http://199.241.8.125/index.cfm?FuseAction=Criminal.FAQs#60


Hope this is helpful.

[chambord]

Excellant discussion on Fox a minute ago, a former prosecutor says, its obvious LE doesn't feel releasing Casey, as the BH says would lead them to Caylee, and the prosecutor can up the bail amount anytime he wants. Let's hope he does that Monday.

ps..did you check out that Weblseuths post. Page 7 of the search warrant, George describes Caylee's backpack as a white background with monkey's on it. Volunteers found two backpacks today in their search. Posters there are waiting for an update.

[sunstar]

Excellant discussion on Fox a minute ago, a former prosecutor says, its obvious LE doesn't feel releasing Casey, as the BH says would lead them to Caylee, and the prosecutor can up the bail amount anytime he wants. Let's hope he does that Monday.

ps..did you check out that Weblseuths post. Page 7 of the search warrant, George describes Caylee's backpack as a white background with monkey's on it. Volunteers found two backpacks today in their search. Posters there are waiting for an update.

Thanks so much chambord :smile: I hadn't had a chance yet to go over to WS to look at the post. I also appreciate the information about the Fox News update. I hope the DA does something to keep Casey in jail too. Also, don't charges have to be filed by Thursday, 8/21?

[DeeJay]

That's just it ~ nobody's said anything to contradict what Clint said, so was Caylee really with her grandparents every night before the 16th? That must have gone over very well with them, having to babysit while Casey was with her boyfriend all night. And if anybody saw Caylee after the 16th nobody's come forward with that either. :shrug1:

The root of the A's problems lies at the feet of how they
did not raise Casey properly.

The parents allowed Casey to do as she wished and aided
and abedded her in whatever she wanted to do/when she
wanted to do it. C & G were Casey's pizzing post.

IMO, that's it in a nutshell.

[Emyo]

I just heard Padilla say that Casey has agreed with the deal, having Padilla spring her and having someone with her 24/7...and so is Baez...interesting...


It's always best for the client to be out of jail. Not so surprising that Baez wants her out. Then he can put the trial off as long as he can and the media attention will maybe die down.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Excellant discussion on Fox a minute ago, a former prosecutor says, its obvious LE doesn't feel releasing Casey, as the BH says would lead them to Caylee, and the prosecutor can up the bail amount anytime he wants. Let's hope he does that Monday.

ps..did you check out that Weblseuths post. Page 7 of the search warrant, George describes Caylee's backpack as a white background with monkey's on it. Volunteers found two backpacks today in their search. Posters there are waiting for an update.


How credible is that information Chambord?

Where did they locate these backpacks?

[awakening2lite]

The flip side.

Casey getting out on bond might be a good thing. Casey contends she can't confide in LE for fear of little Caylee's life and the lives of her family. If Casey is bonded out she'll that opportunity to tell what she knows about where Caylee is and others, other than LE, may have a chance to find her. If Caylee is found, good news all around. If Caylee isn't found, and Casey has been out on bond able to confide in whoever she chooses, how will that bode in court when Casey is tried?

I'd like to see her get out for the few days prior to her arraignment and the deadline for additional and more serious charges.

But, if I were her attorney and didn't completely believe in her kidnapper story, I'd keep her behind bars and try to use the "can't talk to LE" excuse in front of the jury.

[chambord]

The root of the A's problems lies at the feet of how they
did not raise Casey properly.

The parents allowed Casey to do as she wished and aided
and abedded her in whatever she wanted to do/when she
wanted to do it. C & G were Casey's pizzing post.

IMO, that's it in a nutshell.

Yup, and that's why the dynamics of this household is so important to see what molded Casey into the person she is today. She wasn't born this way, her life experiences, her interaction with her family, blemished, or otherwise has significantly made her the person we see.

[chambord]

How credible is that information Chambord?

Where did they locate these backpacks?

Blanchard Park. I can't vouch for who the searchers are. One of the searchers has said to keep your eye on channel 6 Fla, for further news.

[chambord]

It's always best for the client to be out of jail. Not so surprising that Baez wants her out. Then he can put the trial off as long as he can and the media attention will maybe die down.

Why do you think its best for the client to be out of jail, Emyo?

[DeeJay]

Yup, and that's why the dynamics of this household is so important to see what molded Casey into the person she is today. She wasn't born this way, her life experiences, her interaction with her family, blemished, or otherwise has significantly made her the person we see.

That first phone call with her mother when Casey was
using such foul language, told me
what a POS Casey really is.

I do think she is use to talking that way to her mother.

It didn't just happen first and only time on that phone
call. And Cindy didn't tell her not to speak to her like
that.

I believe what the one neighbor told Mark Fuhrman about
the yelling and screaming fight heard on Father's Day
weekend.

[Emyo]

Why do you think its best for the client to be out of jail, Emyo?

It looks better.

[chambord]

That first phone call with her mother when Casey was
using such foul language, told me
what a POS Casey really is.

I do think she is use to talking that way to her mother.

It didn't just happen first and only time on that phone
call. And Cindy didn't tell her not to speak to her like
that.

I believe what the one neighbor told Mark Fuhrman about
the yelling and screaming fight heard on Father's Day
weekend.

Yes, what I gleen from that exchange is Cindy was accustomed to coddlying Casey and trying to keep flames to embers. Witnessing George's recent outburst tells me he has a short fuse. Cindy was trying, IMO, to keep Casey from exploding all the time, and pacifying George. I don't think its been easy for Cindy to placate these two personalities. In a way, I have sympathy for the role I think she had to play.

[annalyzer]

That first phone call with her mother when Casey was
using such foul language, told me
what a POS Casey really is.

I do think she is use to talking that way to her mother.

It didn't just happen first and only time on that phone
call. And Cindy didn't tell her not to speak to her like
that.

I believe what the one neighbor told Mark Fuhrman about
the yelling and screaming fight heard on Father's Day
weekend.

You think they heard yelling and screaming before? Wait until Casey gets out of jail and is stuck at home with them. :71526:

I'm sort of glad she's getting out. She will be hounded constantly by her mother and Lee will also be asking her a lot of questions that in jail she was able to avoid.

[sunstar]

I believe what the one neighbor told Mark Fuhrman about
the yelling and screaming fight heard on Father's Day
weekend.
And I still think that might have had a big part in what really happened to Caylee. MOO :smile:

[chambord]

It looks better.

:confused:

For who?

[sciencegirl]

sciencegirl ~ here's links to his interview!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403801,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404241,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403448,00.html

Thank you so much!!! :love0085:

[sunstar]

You think they heard yelling and screaming before? Wait until Casey gets out of jail and is stuck at home with them. :71526:

I'm sort of glad she's getting out. She will be hounded constantly by her mother and Lee will also be asking her a lot of questions that in jail she was able to avoid.

This might be the one good thing if she gets out. She might not be able to lie anymore or use the monitoring at the jail as an excuse. One question I do have though is she allowed visitors at home? I know any trips out of the house have to be approved, according to the judge.

[sunstar]

Thank you so much!!! :love0085:

You're most welcome! :smile:

[DeeJay]

You think they heard yelling and screaming before? Wait until Casey gets out of jail and is stuck at home with them. :71526:

I'm sort of glad she's getting out. She will be hounded constantly by her mother and Lee will also be asking her a lot of questions that in jail she was able to avoid.

She's been sitting in the jail like the Queen Bee.....when
her parents or brother show up for a visit with the queen,
Casey's like, Send them away!" Like a queen
in days of long ago. :parting:

Why does she not just tell Baez to call them and tell them
not to go for a visit? Or call them herself?....
Instead the queen waits until they arrive, wait in line
and then get sent packing.

Casey has been calling all the shots. Holds all the cards
and she knows it.

The A's are fools wanting her sprung from jail. Fools! I tell ya.

[DeeJay]

This might be the one good thing if she gets out. She might not be able to lie anymore or use the monitoring at the jail as an excuse. One question I do have though is she allowed visitors at home? I know any trips out of the house have to be approved, according to the judge.

Oh sure, she can have visitors go to the house.

Who you think would make a beeline to see her?

She doesn't have any friends left. Not that she had
many too begin with. And those have turned their
backs on her.

I think it's a clear bet, Tony won't be visiting or talking
to her by phone. He's sorry he got mixed up with her.

[sunstar]

Oh sure, she can have visitors go to the house.

Who you think would make a beeline to see her?

She doesn't have any friends left. Not that she had
many too begin with. And those have turned their
backs on her.

I think it's a clear bet, Tony won't be visiting or talking
to her by phone. He's sorry he got mixed up with her.

Oh I was just wondering if anybody she knows is still her friend and might get together with her to further this stupid story of the nanny. I don't believe she thought her mom would've had her arrested in the first place, so she probably didn't talk with anybody up to now about what she was going to say. And I agree, it won't be Tony!! :girl_haha:

[awakening2lite]

EXCERPT


Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

source: http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/Bail%20Laws/Florida%20Bail%20Laws.htm

[sunstar]

EXCERPT


Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

source: http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/Bail%20Laws/Florida%20Bail%20Laws.htm

:eek: Why wouldn't somebody who was interviewing the BH, for example, have known this? Or does it just mean they can't pursue & capture in Florida?

[DeeJay]

EXCERPT


Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

source: http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/Bail%20Laws/Florida%20Bail%20Laws.htm

LP said his nephew *IS* licensed in FL, TX & CA. :0009:

But is LP licensed in FL? :smiley_aasg:

[sunstar]

LP said his nephew *IS* licensed in FL, TX & CA. :0009:

But is LP licensed in FL? :smiley_aasg:

Isn't the nephew a bailbondsman or is he BH too? Now I'm really :smiley_aasg:

[sciencegirl]

:eek: Why wouldn't somebody who was interviewing the BH, for example, have known this? Or does it just mean they can't pursue & capture in Florida?

If I recall correctly; the question was asked "what if Casey flees?" And the BH said he would have 90 days to find her and turn her over. Doesn't sound like he can do that now based on the statute, right???

[sciencegirl]

Isn't the nephew a bailbondsman or is he BH too? Now I'm really :smiley_aasg:

The nephew is the bailbondsman. Not the BH. As I understood it.

[Trailblazer]

EXCERPT


Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

source: http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/Bail%20Laws/Florida%20Bail%20Laws.htm

Wow...thanks for the info...Now that's interesting....Hmmmm

[sunstar]

If I recall correctly; the question was asked "what if Casey flees?" And the BH said he would have 90 days to find her and turn her over. Doesn't sound like he can do that now based on the statute, right???

Not if she stays in Florida! It seems from what I read in the post that LE would have to go after her.

[DeeJay]

Isn't the nephew a bailbondsman or is he BH too? Now I'm really :smiley_aasg:

LP is the BH, the nephew is the bondsman.

Way I understand it, is if Casey flees, LP is NOT
allowed legally by law to go after her.

Only FL LE officers are allowed to do go after a
runner and arrest them.

[Trailblazer]

LP said his nephew *IS* licensed in FL, TX & CA. :0009:

But is LP licensed in FL? :smiley_aasg:

T Padilla is a Bails Bondsman...not a bounty hunter Like Lenny Padilla is...

[Pauli]

The nephew is licensed as a bondsman in FL... FL has what they call 'bail runners'.. they can only work for one bonding company and they have to be licensed and live in that state also. They can only go after people bonded out in the state of FL.

[Trailblazer]

If I recall correctly; the question was asked "what if Casey flees?" And the BH said he would have 90 days to find her and turn her over. Doesn't sound like he can do that now based on the statute, right???


Can't figure out how Casey could flee...No car, no money, no friends... :shrug1:

Guess she could hitchhike

[sunstar]

LP is the BH, the nephew is the bondsman.

Way I understand it, is if Casey flees, LP is NOT
allowed legally by law to go after her.

Only FL LE officers are allowed to do go after a
runner and arrest them.

It took me a couple times reading through that to figure it out too. At first it looked like he wasn't even allowed in Florida to "hold" her.

[DeeJay]

T Padilla is a Bails Bondsman...not a bounty hunter Like Lenny Padilla is...

Yeah well, so much for the blowhard Leonard Padilla
saying if she flees, he will go after her
and take her back to jail. That guy
makes me ill. :frown:

So does that Garrison bloke, the new spokeman
for the A's. He's just creepy.
Shifty eyes. http://bestsmileys.com/eyes/10.gif

[sunstar]

The nephew is licensed as a bondsman in FL... FL has what they call 'bail runners'.. they can only work for one bonding company and they have to be licensed and live in that state also. They can only go after people bonded out in the state of FL.

Thanks, Pauli! It's much clearer now. :smile:

[DeeJay]

Can't figure out how Casey could flee...No car, no money, no friends... :shrug1:

Guess she could hitchhike

I put nothing past her. She's learned how to be a
pretty good thief. Successfully stolen $ & gas.

Those are but a few things we know of.

[awakening2lite]

The nephew is licensed as a bondsman in FL... FL has what they call 'bail runners'.. they can only work for one bonding company and they have to be licensed and live in that state also. They can only go after people bonded out in the state of FL.

Thanks Pauli, and here's a reference for that:

States eliminating free lance bounty hunters, but allowing full time "runners" who work for 1 bond agent at a time.

1. Florida

All bail runners must be licensed, and work only for one bond agent (i.e., eliminating free lance bounty hunters), be over 18, a resident of the state, have no criminal record, and pass a certification course, Fla. Stat. § 648.37. One cannot make an arrest on an out of state bond unless the person is licensed in the state or the state where the bond was written. Fla. Stat. § 648.30.

http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/new_html/Bounty%20Hunter%20Laws.htm

[awakening2lite]

Yeah well, so much for the blowhard Leonard Padilla
saying if she flees, he will go after her
and take her back to jail. That guy
makes me ill. :frown:

So does that Garrison bloke, the new spokeman
for the A's. He's just creepy.
Shifty eyes. http://bestsmileys.com/eyes/10.gif

He is misleading, isn't he?

(Love your eyes!)

[sunstar]

I put nothing past her. She's learned how to be a
pretty good thief. Successfully stolen $ & gas.

Those are but a few things we know of.

I don't think the media would let her by them! :girl_haha:

[awakening2lite]

EXCERPT

* People can have bonds revoked if they are arrested again after posting a bond
o if they lie on their bond application
o if they change their addresses without letting the bondsman know in advance
o if they give the bondsman reason to believe they will not go to court
o if they depart the jurisdiction of the court without written permission of the court and the bondsman.

These are the only conditions by which a Florida bond agent can revoke a bond without returning the full bond premium!

source: http://www.roundtreebonding.com/qa1.html

Since we know the none of the Anthony (or anyone else) is putting up any part of the bond or fees associated with it, it might be the bondsman's prerogative to revoke the bond at any time and without need of a reason.

[DeeJay]

I don't think the media would let her by them! :girl_haha:

The media would be a stumbling block I reckon. :s1gyahoo:

[sunstar]

The media would be a stumbling block I reckon. :s1gyahoo:

If they're annoying George & Cindy now, I can only imagine what it would be like if Casey were holed-up in the house! :67302:

[dockitty]

If they're annoying George & Cindy now, I can only imagine what it would be like if Casey were holed-up in the house! :67302:

:0devil:

[DeeJay]

If they're annoying George & Cindy now, I can only imagine what it would be like if Casey were holed-up in the house! :67302:

UR right, there could be a real media
blitz & frenzy in front of the A's house. http://bestsmileys.com/excited/3.gif

[sunstar]

UR right, there could be a real media
blitz & frenzy in front of the A's house. http://bestsmileys.com/excited/3.gif

I'd love it!!! :girl_haha: Mark Fuhrman and "brother Craig" (as Geraldo always calls him) could work in shifts on the stake-out!!! :67302:

[chambord]

Oh sure, she can have visitors go to the house.

Who you think would make a beeline to see her?

She doesn't have any friends left. Not that she had
many too begin with. And those have turned their
backs on her.

I think it's a clear bet, Tony won't be visiting or talking
to her by phone. He's sorry he got mixed up with her.

LOL//There's always Patrick. :71526:

[sunstar]

LOL//There's always Patrick. :71526:

OMG :67302: I'd forgotten about him. Yes, she does have a friend!

[DeeJay]

LOL//There's always Patrick. :71526:

:francis: Whatta nutcase he is!

Talk about looking for 15 minutes of fame. Patrick
went overboard.

I don't know how he got in for a visit period. :thud2:

Normally, the inmate has to put names of permitted
visitors on a list before they are allowed to visit.

Hells bells, Casey was dumbfounded WHO he was. :g:

[awakening2lite]

I'd love it!!! :girl_haha: Mark Fuhrman and "brother Craig" (as Geraldo always calls him) could work in shifts on the stake-out!!! :67302:


Maybe they'll bring one of those listening devices that can hear through walls!

[sunstar]

:francis: Whatta nutcase he is!

Talk about looking for 15 minutes of fame. Patrick
went overboard.

I don't know how he got in for a visit period. :thud2:

Normally, the inmate has to put names of permitted
visitors on a list before they are allowed to visit.

Hells bells, Casey was dumbfounded WHO he was. :g:

I couldn't get that either as I too always thought visitors had to be approved by the inmate. :shrug1:

[sunstar]

Maybe they'll bring one of those listening devices that can hear through walls!

If it's anything like that neighbor described from Father's Day they won't need a special listening device! :71526:

[dockitty]

if it's anything like that neighbor described from father's day they won't need a special listening device! :71526:

:67302::67302:

[sunstar]

:67302::67302:

I just realized Geraldo won't be on tonight. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[Faith]

:happy0207: everyone, I'm back- did I miss anything?

[DeeJay]

Anything new on the finding/looking for the backpack in
Orlando?

[Faith]

Thanks Faith! All these different dates are so confusing especially when the 9th turned into the 16th and so forth. I do suppose they both could be right though and maybe Clint saw her after Tony last did. :groan:

I just find it hard to believe Casey & Caylee were there and Tony's last saw Caylee June 2. I;m not saying he's wrong, just odd.

Yes, the dates and typing the names gets confusing.

[DeeJay]

:happy0207: everyone, I'm back- did I miss anything?

The BH (LP) may not be legal in FL.

There'll be a huge media frenzy camped out at
the A's house if Casey's free and staying there.

Mark Fuhrman & Craig Rivera may be able to hear
any fighting going on in the house.

[chambord]

Gov. Crist has declared a state of emergancy due to the pending hurricane, according to the email alert I received.

Perhaps this will put a damper on any release of Casey on Mon. I hope.

I just read over at IS, that the BH said if the bail is raised he won't be putting forth any more money. I'm trying to locate the source of that.

[DeeJay]

I just realized Geraldo won't be on tonight. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I learned that early on in the day. bummer! :madranting94dp:

[chambord]

:happy0207: everyone, I'm back- did I miss anything?

Hope you enjoyed yourself Faith, we all need to take a break from this case every so often. You certainly deserve one.

[sunstar]

:happy0207: everyone, I'm back- did I miss anything?

Hi Faith! I was hoping we'd hear more on Geraldo tonight then I just realized he's going to be preempted by McCain & Obama. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[DeeJay]

Gov. Crist has declared a state of emergancy due to the pending hurricane, according to the email alert I received.

Perhaps this will put a damper on any release of Casey on Mon. I hope.

I just read over at IS, that the BH said if the bail is raised he won't be putting forth any more money. I'm trying to locate the source of that.

You mean they got away w/out posting a LINK!:thud2:

[chambord]

Anything new on the finding/looking for the backpack in
Orlando?

I read awhile ago over there that two deputies were called and they removed a few brown bags of evidence. The search team has called for another search party to return tomorrow morning at 9am to regroup.

[DeeJay]

I read awhile ago over there that two deputies were called and they removed a few brown bags of evidence. The search team has called for another search party to return tomorrow morning at 9am to regroup.

TY.

Unless the hurricane puts the kabosh on it.

[Faith]

But Leonard has been asked about 3 times about putting
up the 10%, "who's going to put up the 10%?" Jamie on
FoxNews asked that right upfront this morning....LP never
did answer either way....again.

Each time, he's never answered. He's not said it doesn't
have to be put up with the surety bond, nor that he or
his nephew will pay it.

That man is SO CONFUSING!! :doh: Half the time he
bypasses questions and goes on to something else. :boredom:

Leonard said this morning that Casey is supposed to pay him/them the 10% but they are not making her pay it.

[sunstar]

you mean they got away w/out posting a link!:thud2:

:67302::67302::67302: (oh, that's right, it's a weekend forum over there!)

[Faith]

Hi Faith! I was hoping we'd hear more on Geraldo tonight then I just realized he's going to be preempted by McCain & Obama. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I know, that's why I didn't feel bad about leaving this afternoon.

[Faith]

Gov. Crist has declared a state of emergancy due to the pending hurricane, according to the email alert I received.

Perhaps this will put a damper on any release of Casey on Mon. I hope.

I just read over at IS, that the BH said if the bail is raised he won't be putting forth any more money. I'm trying to locate the source of that.

I heard the gov has declared a state of emergency. I hadn't read anything since I've been back, trying to catch up.

[chambord]

:67302::67302::67302: (oh, that's right, it's a weekend forum over there!)

Yup. Trying to make heads or tails over there is like messing with a rubik cube.

[sunstar]

TY.

Unless the hurricane puts the kabosh on it.

Most of the preparations are going on in the Key West/Miami area right now expecting it to hit between tomorrow & Tuesday.

[sunstar]

I heard the gov has declared a state of emergency. I hadn't read anything since I've been back, trying to catch up.
Here's the latest ~

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26226503/

[DeeJay]

Leonard said this morning that Casey is supposed to pay him/them the 10% but they are not making her pay it.

:waitasec:Well, she'd have to steal it.

[DeeJay]

Here's the latest ~

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26226503/

:67302: Note the red gas cans in that man's vehicle. :groan:

[Faith]

They are putting up a 'surety bond' that means the $50k does not have to be paid. The surety bond guarantees the whole $500k if Casey fails to show up for any court dates. The bondsman has a line of credit with a surety company...

Pauli, I "thought" the bondsman and the jail had an agreement on what they paid the jail. Is that different in this case?

[sunstar]

:67302: Note the red gas cans in that man's vehicle. :groan:

I saw them!!! :eek:

[Faith]

:67302: Note the red gas cans in that man's vehicle. :groan:

And, they are strapped in with the seatbelt. :67302:

[chambord]

Pauli, I "thought" the bondsman and the jail had an agreement on what they paid the jail. Is that different in this case?

That 50k seems to be a bone of contention over at IS. Some think it still has to be paid, personaly, I'm unsure myself.

[DeeJay]

And, they are strapped in with the seatbelt. :67302:

For sure!, don't want them things flying all over the
place. :francis:

[Faith]

That 50k seems to be a bone of contention over at IS. Some think it still has to be paid, personaly, I'm unsure myself.

FWIW, according to Padilla this morning he said no. :0009:

[Trailblazer]

FWIW, according to Padilla this morning he said no. :0009:

That's because Tony Padilla is putting up a surety bond in the amount of $500k.

So no need for the 10%

[chambord]

Check out post #104 at Websleuths, and pay particular attention to the link to WFTV 9. At any given time there are over 200 posters on that board reading and posting. I find them to be very reliable.

[Faith]

I just heard Padilla say that Casey has agreed with the deal, having Padilla spring her and having someone with her 24/7...and so is Baez...interesting...


:mad:

[Trailblazer]

Check out post #104 at Websleuths, and pay particular attention to the link to WFTV 9. At any given time there are over 200 posters on that board reading and posting. I find them to be very reliable.


Could you give links...They have so many threads...:67302:

TIA

[Faith]

That's because Tony Padilla is putting up a surety bond in the amount of $500k.

So no need for the 10%

I know but if tsome are confused all they have to do is listen to last nights NG.

[sunstar]

Could you give links...They have so many threads...:67302:

TIA

I think they just started #97 of general discussion on the case! :INhouseReading04:

[Faith]

A2K posted something interesting- Lets say they get tired on Caseysitting and want to send her home and she doesn't show up for court they can't hunt her down.

Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=343980#post343980

[chambord]

Could you give links...They have so many threads...:67302:

TIA

Its today's daily thread Trial. When I try to link on this laptop I crash.

[Trailblazer]

Its today's daily thread Trial. When I try to link on this laptop I crash.

LOL Ok....I'll go find it...

[awakening2lite]

If it's anything like that neighbor described from Father's Day they won't need a special listening device! :71526:


:67302: Hilarious! And even better!

[sunstar]

LOL Ok....I'll go find it...

Thread #96, I think! :smile:

[sunstar]

:67302: Hilarious! And even better!

Mark & Craig might need earplugs!! :71526:

[Trailblazer]

Thread #96, I think! :smile:

Thanks...not sure what I'm looking for ...but I'll give it a shot...:67302:

[sunstar]

Thanks...not sure what I'm looking for ...but I'll give it a shot...:67302:

I didn't look since there's too many pages to go through! :67302:

[awakening2lite]

Mark & Craig might need earplugs!! :71526:

:67302:

I image so! But I don't think she'll be cussing at the cowboy BH.

[Jute]

You think they heard yelling and screaming before? Wait until Casey gets out of jail and is stuck at home with them. :71526:

I'm sort of glad she's getting out. She will be hounded constantly by her mother and Lee will also be asking her a lot of questions that in jail she was able to avoid.

I don't know Casey, but I've known people who behave in a similar manner. My guess is, now that she has been further enabled and empowered in her effort to hide the truth about this case, she will a temperamental bomb. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near her.

[sunstar]

:67302:

I image so! But I don't think she'll be cussing at the cowboy BH.

No, all might be well if he's in the house. But I sure would think by now that her parents & brother might have some questions for her that she wouldn't want to answer ~ with the truth, that is. :smile:

[AmyE]

Hello everyone, I am back again. I need some catching up and too lazy to read back. LOL! What is the deal with Casey getting out? I have only caught pieces of this.

PS
My grandfather was released from the hopsital today. Yippy!

[awakening2lite]

No, all might be well if he's in the house. But I sure would think by now that her parents & brother might have some questions for her that she wouldn't want to answer ~ with the truth, that is. :smile:


I agree, you're right. I think she would be out of control with the Anthony family. After all, they don't have any influence over her, that's been made clear.

But, I'm putting my bet on the BH going with his plan "B" to house her somewhere else away from her family. Maybe Cindy and George will breath a sigh of relief. :67302: I know I would.

[Jute]

EXCERPT


Florida does not allow bounty hunters.

* Apprehension of bail fugitives is only allowed as set forth in FS 648.30(2)&(3):
* (2) No person shall represent himself or herself to be a bail enforcement agent, bounty hunter, or other similar title in [Florida].
* (3) No person, other than a certified law enforcement officer, shall be authorized to apprehend, detain, or arrest a principal on a bond, wherever issued, unless that person is qualified, licensed, and appointed as provided in this chapter or licensed as a bail bond agent by the state where the bond was written.
* Violation of this is a 3rd class felony. [FS 648.30(4)].

source: http://www.americanbailcoalition.com/Bail%20Laws/Florida%20Bail%20Laws.htm

I doubt that Casey is a flight risk (hth would she take care of herself? She's lived with mommy and daddy all her life) but wouldn't it be poetic justice if she - the queen of wile - realized that BH couldn't come after her in FL and found a safe place to hide out so he and nephew lose their bond? :0devil:

There would be no reason for her to do this, of course. It's just one example of how a publicity stunt disguised as a goodwill gesture could backfire.

[sunstar]

Hello everyone, I am back again. I need some catching up and too lazy to read back. LOL! What is the deal with Casey getting out? I have only caught pieces of this.

PS
My grandfather was released from the hopsital today. Yippy!

Hi Amy! I'm so happy about your grandfather! :love0081: This bounty hunter named Padilla and his nephew a bailbondsmen are going to try to get Casey out on bail. They were on Greta's show last night.

Here's an article about them.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-caylee1608aug16,0,4717404.story

[Jute]

If they're annoying George & Cindy now, I can only imagine what it would be like if Casey were holed-up in the house! :67302:

I wonder how long it will take the media to get their trucks, etc. set up if BH puts her in a "safe" house? I wonder what the odds are that LE would be willing make all visits in unmarked cars and civilian clothes? :cool:

[AmyE]

Hi Amy! I'm so happy about your grandfather! :love0081: This bounty hunter named Padilla and his nephew a bailbondsmen are going to try to get Casey out on bail. They were on Greta's show last night.

Here's an article about them.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-caylee1608aug16,0,4717404.story


Thanks so much! :love0081:

I will take a look at that. I totally missed Greta last night. :(

[sunstar]

I wonder how long it will take the media to get their trucks, etc. set up if BH puts her in a "safe" house? I wonder what the odds are that LE would be willing make all visits in unmarked cars and civilian clothes? :cool:

I'm sure the media would find the "safe house" in no time!! :67302:

[sunstar]

Thanks so much! :love0081:

I will take a look at that. I totally missed Greta last night. :(

You're very welcome! :smile:

[Faith]

Excellant discussion on Fox a minute ago, a former prosecutor says, its obvious LE doesn't feel releasing Casey, as the BH says would lead them to Caylee, and the prosecutor can up the bail amount anytime he wants. Let's hope he does that Monday.

ps..did you check out that Weblseuths post. Page 7 of the search warrant, George describes Caylee's backpack as a white background with monkey's on it. Volunteers found two backpacks today in their search. Posters there are waiting for an update.


Oh oh, I hope the bail is set to 10 million or more!!

I took a screenshot of what George said about the backpack-

White backpack with with designs of monkeys.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/page7monkeys.jpg

[mollybrown]

My grandfather was released from the hopsital today. Yippy!

Good News Amy, Good News indeed. :zm10::1222423::love0085:

[Faith]

I wonder how long it will take the media to get their trucks, etc. set up if BH puts her in a "safe" house? I wonder what the odds are that LE would be willing make all visits in unmarked cars and civilian clothes? :cool:

Someone will birddoging them. However, I think there will be a few fake cars that leave from behind the jail and go in several directions.

There something they need to consider and that's Casey's safety. I'm sure there is a nut out there that may want to harm her.

[mollybrown]

...........
There something they need to consider and that's Casey's safety. I'm sure there is a nut out there that may want to harm her.


:happy0207::happy0207::happy0207:

I'll Volunteer LOL

[Faith]

Hope you enjoyed yourself Faith, we all need to take a break from this case every so often. You certainly deserve one.

I had fun with my son. I'm not a biker chic but enjoyed getting away for a few hours. Lots of laughs that I can't post here :girl_haha:

[Faith]

:happy0207::happy0207::happy0207:

I'll volunteer lol


:67302:

[sunstar]

Someone will birddoging them. However, I think there will be a few fake cars that leave from behind the jail and go in several directions.

There something they need to consider and that's Casey's safety. I'm sure there is a nut out there that may want to harm her.

All this at taxpayers expense for her safety, when it would be better just to keep her in the jail cell! :groan:

[Jute]

If it's anything like that neighbor described from Father's Day they won't need a special listening device! :71526:

Emyo's right, the media attention will focus more and more on Casey - Caylee will be pushed even further into the background until people just give up.


I so wish that a courageous, strong victim rights advocate would step up and very publicly offer to be Caylee's attorney. I just don't think the family could deny it - unless Baez got involved, it might not be in Casey's best interests to have Caylee represented. :frown::frown:


If someone would do this, I'd have t-shirts printed up and wear a sign board saying "this person is my hero - Caylee does matter!" :000a1:

[Faith]

Hi Faith! I was hoping we'd hear more on Geraldo tonight then I just realized he's going to be preempted by McCain & Obama. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I knew nothing would be on tonight, rats!

[Faith]

All this at taxpayers expense for her safety, when it would be better just to keep her in the jail cell! :groan:

I agree, she needs to stay there and keep her mouth shut just like she will do with the BH's.

[sunstar]

I knew nothing would be on tonight, rats!

Olympics!! :girl_haha:

[awakening2lite]

I doubt that Casey is a flight risk (hth would she take care of herself? She's lived with mommy and daddy all her life) but wouldn't it be poetic justice if she - the queen of wile - realized that BH couldn't come after her in FL and found a safe place to hide out so he and nephew lose their bond? :0devil:

There would be no reason for her to do this, of course. It's just one example of how a publicity stunt disguised as a goodwill gesture could backfire.

The Yoke would be on them :67302:

But, they are probably going to be ordered by the underwriter of the bond to have licensed bond runners in the picture.

This is just another example of the BH not knowing all the facts of the case, judging by the remarks he chose not to respond to on Greta, and not knowing the facts about Bounty Hunters not being able to chase people down in Florida when he made the statement the HE would go after her if she ran.

Not knowing the very basic of facts means, to me, this is more about publicity than it is a belief in finding Caylee.

[sunstar]

I agree, she needs to stay there and keep her mouth shut just like she will do with the BH's.

It just seems safer and less expensive to keep her in jail, imo. Maybe she'll get some new charges and a much higher bail!!!

[Jute]

Gov. Crist has declared a state of emergancy due to the pending hurricane, according to the email alert I received.

Perhaps this will put a damper on any release of Casey on Mon. I hope.

I just read over at IS, that the BH said if the bail is raised he won't be putting forth any more money. I'm trying to locate the source of that.

Five day forecast map:

http://www.wftv.com/hurricanes/17203205/detail.html

[awakening2lite]

I wonder how long it will take the media to get their trucks, etc. set up if BH puts her in a "safe" house? I wonder what the odds are that LE would be willing make all visits in unmarked cars and civilian clothes? :cool:


:0devil: I really hope the media will find them. I don't want her to have moment of peace while that baby is missing.

[awakening2lite]

It just seems safer and less expensive to keep her in jail, imo. Maybe she'll get some new charges and a much higher bail!!!


The people, Padilla Uncle and Nephew, should be the ones paying to safe guard her, not the City of Orlando.

[sunstar]

:0devil: I really hope the media will find them. I don't want her to have moment of peace while that baby is missing.

I really believe the media will hound her wherever she is, IF she gets out.

[awakening2lite]

I'd love it!!! :girl_haha: Mark Fuhrman and "brother Craig" (as Geraldo always calls him) could work in shifts on the stake-out!!! :67302:

Now that would be a movie worth watching! I'd buy a ticket to see that!

[mollybrown]

The people, Padilla Uncle and Nephew, should be the ones paying to safe guard her, not the City of Orlando.

I'm not sure how that would work A2L? I would think that IF the padilla's squared, wanted to spend 24/7 with casey in a safe house that THEY should pay for it.

I can see it now, rundown 1 room flat in a seedy part of town. Running water (cold of course) those pull down shades (yellow) with holes in them and that darn street light that shines right on caseys face, all night long. Things that go, sweek, in the night. Canned pork and beans on a camp stove and Bubba, oh yes there is always a bubba. :67302:

[AmyE]

Good News Amy, Good News indeed. :zm10::1222423::love0085:

VERY GOOD NEWS! THANK YOU! :zm10:

[sunstar]

I'm not sure how that would work A2L? I would think that IF the padilla's squared, wanted to spend 24/7 with casey in a safe house that THEY should pay for it.

I can see it now, rundown 1 room flat in a seedy part of town. Running water (cold of course) those pull down shades (yellow) with holes in them and that darn street light that shines right on caseys face, all night long. Things that go, sweek, in the night. Canned pork and beans on a camp stove and Bubba, oh yes there is always a bubba. :67302:
OMG ~ what a perfect "safe house" that would be! I really like the 'things that go sweak in the night', and maybe add some cucarachas to the scene too!!! :67302:

[awakening2lite]

I'm not sure how that would work A2L? I would think that IF the padilla's squared, wanted to spend 24/7 with casey in a safe house that THEY should pay for it.

I can see it now, rundown 1 room flat in a seedy part of town. Running water (cold of course) those pull down shades (yellow) with holes in them and that darn street light that shines right on caseys face, all night long. Things that go, sweek, in the night. Canned pork and beans on a camp stove and Bubba, oh yes there is always a bubba. :67302:

I think they'll all (Padilla Uncle and Nephew, bond runners and Casey and whoever else) will holed up in a very nice condo/hotel in a very nice part of town and enjoy the best take out that Orlando has to offer.

Molly, I really don't understand your question. I was saying if Casey needs protection it should be paid for by the people to got her out on bond, not by the people of Orlando.

[Jute]

Could you give links...They have so many threads...:67302:

TIA

:girl_haha: I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble - one thread has under 100 posts, in the previous thread, #104 has no link and just describes the backpack.

[mollybrown]

I think they'll all (Padilla Uncle and Nephew, bond runners and Casey and whoever else) will holed up in a very nice condo/hotel in a very nice part of town and enjoy the best take out that Orlando has to offer.

Molly, I really don't understand your question. I was saying if Casey needs protection it should be paid for by the people to got her out on bond, not by the people of Orlando.

Here we go again, A2L :67302: I AGREE WITH YOU..... If the Padilla's, squared, want a "safe house" they should pay for it. It's their fault she's out at all. :francis:

[P.I.Jane]

Evening All!

[sunstar]

Evening All!

Hi Jane! :0012:

[mollybrown]

Evening All!

Hi Jane, how's it hangin? Slow night tonight, to be honest these people that have real lives, it's really overrated. :67302:

[Jute]

Hello everyone, I am back again. I need some catching up and too lazy to read back. LOL! What is the deal with Casey getting out? I have only caught pieces of this.

PS
My grandfather was released from the hopsital today. Yippy!

So glad to hear about your grandfather, Amy! :friends3:

[awakening2lite]

Here we go again, A2L :67302: I AGREE WITH YOU..... If the Padilla's, squared, want a "safe house" they should pay for it. It's their fault she's out at all. :francis:

LOL. I was referring the security of Casey not the safe house. LOL

[Faith]

I'm not sure how that would work A2L? I would think that IF the padilla's squared, wanted to spend 24/7 with casey in a safe house that THEY should pay for it.

I can see it now, rundown 1 room flat in a seedy part of town. Running water (cold of course) those pull down shades (yellow) with holes in them and that darn street light that shines right on caseys face, all night long. Things that go, sweek, in the night. Canned pork and beans on a camp stove and Bubba, oh yes there is always a bubba. :67302:

That would make the bologna look real good. :67302:

[Faith]

Evening All!

Hi Jane, :happy0207:

[awakening2lite]

Evening All!

Hi P.I.Jane :happy0207:

Love your hair! :kissyface4:

[mollybrown]

LOL. I was referring the security of Casey not the safe house. LOL

OK Gottcha, I don't think they should need any added security, don't thoses bounty boys (TX) come packing....... :happy0158: That's supposed to be hand guns....... LOL

[awakening2lite]

VERY GOOD NEWS! THANK YOU! :zm10:

Glad to hear your GrandFather is doing so much better, AmyE :s1gyahoo:

[Jute]

Someone will birddoging them. However, I think there will be a few fake cars that leave from behind the jail and go in several directions.

There something they need to consider and that's Casey's safety. I'm sure there is a nut out there that may want to harm her.

I'm sure you're right, Faith, and for that reason if no other, it would be illogical and dangerous to allow a BH and/or attorney to hide her. IMO

[mollybrown]

Dara Torrese places 2nd (50M free) by one/100th of a second, out of first, after her first appreance 24 years ago. YOU GO GIRL :happy0158:

[awakening2lite]

OK Gottcha, I don't think they should need any added security, don't thoses bounty boys (TX) come packing....... :happy0158: That's supposed to be hand guns....... LOL

I don't know, one would assume so. I'd have to look up the statutes on concealed weapons in Florida and licensing, unless someone here knows.


As far a Casey, I hope the BH makes her wear the pink ankle bracelets.

[AmyE]

So glad to hear about your grandfather, Amy! :friends3:

I am very excited! Thanks! :love0081:

[AmyE]

Glad to hear your GrandFather is doing so much better, AmyE :s1gyahoo:

Thank you so much! :happy0158:

[Faith]

I'm sure you're right, Faith, and for that reason if no other, it would be illogical and dangerous to allow a BH and/or attorney to hide her. IMO

I'm sure the prosecutor and judge are pondering the exact thoughts this weekend. I think Fay will play her part in keeping casey there a few days beyond Monday too.

[sunstar]

Dara Torrese places 2nd (50M free) by one/100th of a second, out of first, after her first appreance 24 years ago. YOU GO GIRL :happy0158:

Isn't that wonderful!!! :s1gyahoo:

[Jute]

I'm not sure how that would work A2L? I would think that IF the padilla's squared, wanted to spend 24/7 with casey in a safe house that THEY should pay for it.

I can see it now, rundown 1 room flat in a seedy part of town. Running water (cold of course) those pull down shades (yellow) with holes in them and that darn street light that shines right on caseys face, all night long. Things that go, sweek, in the night. Canned pork and beans on a camp stove and Bubba, oh yes there is always a bubba. :67302:

There would have to be a Bertha, too - Casey is a lady, after all. :rolleye0001:

[P.I.Jane]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.

[Jute]

Evening All!

Hi Jane! :happy0207: Well coiffed, as always, I see. :girl_haha:

[P.I.Jane]

hi jane! :happy0207: Well coiffed, as always, i see. :girl_haha:

lol~ :67302:

[Trailblazer]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.


Oh wow...they were talking about that on WS.

Wonder if it means anything to this case...

[P.I.Jane]

Oh wow...they were talking about that on WS.

Wonder if it means anything to this case...

Not sure if it's Caylee related.

[Faith]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.

Oh wow- how interesting. I hope we learn soon if it was Casey's and Caylee's.

[sunstar]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.

The descriptions are interesting, especially the clothes being Casey's size. Off to forensic testing the items will surely go!! :6u8ky2o:

[awakening2lite]

Profile of the Sociopath
Antisocial Personality Disorder Overview
THE PSYCHOPATH NEXT DOOR

source: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Short read, but very informative.

[AmyE]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.


WOW! The sandal is pretty much a description as to what psychic detectives have on their site, (yellow flower). Could be something on this case.

[chambord]

The descriptions are interesting, especially the clothes being Casey's size. Off to forensic testing the items will surely go!! :6u8ky2o:

Also the same park where Casey told Lee she lost her blackberry. Search by volunteers resumes tomorrow.

[awakening2lite]

Darn, I said hello then my computer shut down.

Just reported on Fox 35 locally here. A group of independent seachers found a back pack, adult and children's clothes, 1 adult sandal (yellow with a flower). The adult clothes were size 5 which is what size Casey wears. LE came and bagged the items up. The location is by the Amscot.

Wow! Great find. I can hardly wait to hear more on this. I hope no one touched or distrubed anything before the LE arrived.

[P.I.Jane]

Didn't the "psychic....
sorry... my computer is messing up. I'm switching computers. Be right back.

[sunstar]

Also the same park where Casey told Lee she lost her blackberry. Search by volunteers resumes tomorrow.

I really am hoping the find or have found something useful to the investigation! :innocent0001:

[AmyE]

Casey declines another visit with her brother


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7222085&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[mollybrown]

There would have to be a Bertha, too - Casey is a lady, after all. :rolleye0001:

I'm not sure if casey thought that she needed a women on her 24/7, when she agreed to anything with the Padilla's squared. :groan:

[sunstar]

Have a good night everybody! I'll see you tomorrow and maybe we'll have more news on the items found today! :love0081: :happy0207:

[awakening2lite]

Have a good night everybody! I'll see you tomorrow and maybe we'll have more news on the items found today! :love0081: :happy0207:

Good night SunStar :happy0207:

See you tomorrow!

[AmyE]

Have a good night everybody! I'll see you tomorrow and maybe we'll have more news on the items found today! :love0081: :happy0207:

Good night!

[Jute]

Have a good night everybody! I'll see you tomorrow and maybe we'll have more news on the items found today! :love0081: :happy0207:

Good night, Sun*! Have a nice evening. :friends3:

[Faith]

http://i38.tinypic.com/xcoj69.jpg

[Faith]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2evfdl5.jpg

[mollybrown]

O/T Micheal Phelps in 2 minutes. :zm10:

[AmyE]

found online:

Grandmother’s own web posting on Cindy’s MySpace message (since deleted) left on July 4th:
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught
“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed,=2 0clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
According to reports, on July 4, Casey Anthony is said to have spent the entire day partying with friends, but where was Caylee?
Then on July 7, Casey Anthony is alleged to have left this message on her MySpace account (message has since been deleted):
The message, titled “Diary of Days,” read:
“On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself.
With great power, comes great consequence.
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.

=======

I found this “myspace” issue at: http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ID=gsHWSwHQY0Z&ZURL=/Casey+Anthony/news&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fglosslip.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Ft he-caylee-anthony-case-whats-missing-here-is-the-truth%2F

there is a web site online that keeps an archive of every web page created . . . . I just cannot recall the name of the site at this time of writing.

*This is what I have just found from a blog http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/timeline/ *

[Faith]

harmony, are you around?

[Faith]

# Orlresident Says:
August 16, 2008 at 3:57 pm

Just so all of you know, two backpacks were found at Jay Blanchard Park today. One was pink with flowers and one was red. This was posted at the Foxnews.com blog. Watch the news tonight for further updates!

http://www.wftv.com/news/17088695/detail.html

[Faith]

found online:

Grandmother’s own web posting on Cindy’s MySpace message (since deleted) left on July 4th:
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught
“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed,=2 0clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
According to reports, on July 4, Casey Anthony is said to have spent the entire day partying with friends, but where was Caylee?
Then on July 7, Casey Anthony is alleged to have left this message on her MySpace account (message has since been deleted):
The message, titled “Diary of Days,” read:
“On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken
Trust no one, only yourself.
With great power, comes great consequence.
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.

=======

I found this “myspace” issue at: http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ID=gsHWSwHQY0Z&ZURL=/Casey+Anthony/news&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fglosslip.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Ft he-caylee-anthony-case-whats-missing-here-is-the-truth%2F

there is a web site online that keeps an archive of every web page created . . . . I just cannot recall the name of the site at this time of writing.

*This is what I have just found from a blog http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/timeline/ *


Thanks Amy, we have that posted here too:
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6902

[Faith]

Independent Caylee investigators submit evidence

Last Edited: Saturday, 16 Aug 2008,


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The process to bond Casey Anthony out of Jail is moving forward, which means the mother the missing Orlando toddler, Caylee, could walk out of the Orange County Jail as early as Monday morning.

About the same time Casey Anthony canceled a scheduled Saturday morning visit with her brother Lee, some independent investigators discovered what they say could be evidence in the search for Caylee.

"We found some things in this area ... blue jeans, size five from express," Derrick Miller.

Miller and others were searching just a few feet from the parking lot of the Econ Soccer Complex on Yates Rd.

"I found a couple of book bags, some other articles of clothing, some female clothing, a female shoe," said Wyatt Locke. "We did find a few articles of children's clothing yes," Locke added.

VIDEO: Possible evidence discovered? (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7223603&version=1&locale=EN-US)
VIDEO: Bounty hunter comes to town (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7221337&version=1&locale=EN-US)


Orange County deputies came to the scene to gather the evidence, which may or may not be germane to the investigation.

"Hopefully, if it does have anything to do with Casey or Caylee, it helps them find out what happened," said Locke.

Coincidence? Maybe, but Locke says some of the clothes are size five. It was size five clothing that investigators removed from Casey's closet. Caylee's grandfather, George Anthony, also told detectives that the last time he saw the missing girl, she was carrying a backpack.


Casey declines visit with brother

Casey denied yet another visit with her brother Lee -- apparently at the advice of her attorneys.
Jail records shows Daniel Walsh and Gabriel Adams, part of Casey Anthony’s defense team headed by lawyer Jose Baez, visited the 22-year-old Friday evening for about two hours.
Allen Moore, Public Information Officer for the Orange County Corrections Department, said that while jail officials don’t ask inmates why they decline visits, a corporal reported that Casey said "I'm declining on the advice of counsel."
When asked by FOX 35 if Casey could simply block her family from visiting altogether, Moore said that she could – but hasn’t.
"If she chooses to she could issue an inmate request form saying ‘I wish I decline all future visitations for the time being,’ Moore said Saturday morning. “If she wanted to change that she could say ‘I want to resume visits from whoever.’ She has not done that."
Instead, Casey has rejected her brother and parents just hours before their schedule visits. Last week, she declined her brother as soon as he arrived at the jail.

However, Casey accepted a 9 a.m. video visitation with her parents on Thursday. After about 45 minutes, George and Cindy Anthony left the jail without speaking to reporters. But before entering the jail, George lashed out at a reporter who asked what he thought about theories that Caylee might be dead.

The next day, the Anthony’s hired high-profile spokesman Larry Garrison to handle their communication with the media.
The Anthonys are again scheduled to visit Casey on Tuesday afternoon. However, Leonard Padilla, a bail bondsman and bounty hunter out of California, has said he can have Casey bailed out of jail by Monday.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7222085&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[AmyE]

# Orlresident Says:
August 16, 2008 at 3:57 pm

Just so all of you know, two backpacks were found at Jay Blanchard Park today. One was pink with flowers and one was red. This was posted at the Foxnews.com blog. Watch the news tonight for further updates!

http://www.wftv.com/news/17088695/detail.html

Yes. I just found that myself. Very interesting. Thanks!

[Jute]

found online:

(snipped quotes)

I found this “myspace” issue at: http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ID=gsHWSwHQY0Z&ZURL=/Casey+Anthony/news&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fglosslip.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Ft he-caylee-anthony-case-whats-missing-here-is-the-truth%2F

there is a web site online that keeps an archive of every web page created . . . . I just cannot recall the name of the site at this time of writing.

*This is what I have just found from a blog http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/timeline/ *

Are you thinking of the WayBack Machine, Amy?

http://www.archive.org/index.php

[Harmony]

# Orlresident Says:
August 16, 2008 at 3:57 pm

Just so all of you know, two backpacks were found at Jay Blanchard Park today. One was pink with flowers and one was red. This was posted at the Foxnews.com blog. Watch the news tonight for further updates!

http://www.wftv.com/news/17088695/detail.html

Hi everyone!

I was over at WS and read that Faith.
#98

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68151&page=4

Info may be shown on:
http://www.local6.com/news/

#131

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68151&page=6

[AmyE]

Are you thinking of the WayBack Machine, Amy?

http://www.archive.org/index.php


I didn't actually write that. Assuming that is what they are talking about.

[annalyzer]

ot phelps just got his 8th gold! woo hoo!

[mollybrown]

ot phelps just got his 8th gold! woo hoo!

120,000 athletes over 180 years. ( I could have missed the exact numbers because I was standing in my livingroom, clapping) :zm10::hifive::1222423::cray::s1gyahoo::girl_haha:

ETA: I want to me his MOM's friend. LOL I LOVE that women......

[Faith]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/2backpacks.jpg

[chambord]

O/T Micheal Phelps in 2 minutes. :zm10:

Did he just win his eighth? I am in awe!!

[Faith]

Video from where the items were located.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7223603&version=1&locale=EN-US

[annalyzer]

120,000 athletes over 180 years. ( I could have missed the exact numbers because I was standing in my livingroom, clapping) :zm10::hifive::1222423::cray::s1gyahoo::girl_haha:

ETA: I want to me his MOM's friend. LOL I LOVE that women......

My dogs are :71526: from me yelling and clapping. :67302:

[awakening2lite]

Independent Caylee investigators submit evidence


Econ Soccer Complex on Yates Rd.




http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7222085&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

link to map
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?address=8099+YATES+RD%20&city=ORLANDO&state=FL&zipcode=32807-8420&country=US&cid=lfmaplink#a/maps/l::8099+Yates+Rd:Orlando:FL:32807-8420:US:28.572119:-81.277948:address:Orange+County/m:hyb:12:28.572119:-81.277948:0::/io:0:::::f:EN:M:/e

[AmyE]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/2backpacks.jpg

Thanks Faith! :hifive: Us dial up users cannot see videos. :frustratedf:

[mollybrown]

Did he just win his eighth? I am in awe!!

I watched Michaels interview with Bob Costis and Mark Spitz last night. Altho many blogs have been bashing Michael about his attitude. I thought that the interveiw was heartfelt by both parties. I've been trying to find it on-line and can't locate it :0009:

[mollybrown]

My dogs are :71526: from me yelling and clapping. :67302:

Mine went running outside to see what was going on..... OH that guard dog Molly Brown.......:s1gyahoo:

[awakening2lite]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/2backpacks.jpg

Thanks Faith, great work!

I wish they would have shown the backpacks

[AmyE]

I am off for the night. See you all in the morning!

[Faith]

link to map
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?address=8099+YATES+RD%20&city=ORLANDO&state=FL&zipcode=32807-8420&country=US&cid=lfmaplink#a/maps/l::8099+Yates+Rd:Orlando:FL:32807-8420:US:28.572119:-81.277948:address:Orange+County/m:hyb:12:28.572119:-81.277948:0::/io:0:::::f:EN:M:/e


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/A2map.jpg

[Faith]

Same map as above but different map site

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/mymap.jpg

[Jute]

Bondsman Thinks Additional Charges Possible For Casey Anthony
POSTED: 3:48 pm EDT August 15, 2008
UPDATED: 7:17 pm EDT August 16, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The owner of a bond company that plans to post bond for Casey Anthony said it's possible the Orange County Sheriff's Office could try to add more charges in the case.

Casey Anthony, who remains jailed while authorities look for her missing 3-year-old daughter, has declined a scheduled visit from her brother, Lee, that was to take place Saturday afternoon. She reportedly did so on advice of her attorney.

Jail visits to Anthony have been sporadic over the past few weeks as Casey has cancelled some visits and allowed others to happen.

Her parents, Cynthia and George Anthony, have a scheduled visit Monday.

In a statement issued Saturday morning about the cancellation of the visit, jail offiicials said they were unaware of an attempt by a Califonia bondsman to post a bond for Casey Anthony, noting that there are conditons that must be met for her to be released, including notifying the Orange County Sheriff's Office which is investigating the case.

One of the owners of the bond company said he thought the Orange County Sheriff's Office might try to add additional charges to Anthony in order to get a higher bond.

Eyewitness News learned Friday that Casey Anthony, who has been behind bars for 30 days, could be bonded out on Monday by a California-based bail bondsman who isn't shy of the media and who suggested he may be able to get information out of her.

Eyewitness News learned that a third party, only identified as a well-known journalist, put Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, in contact with Tony Padilla Bail Bonds in Sacramento. High-profile bail bondsman Leonard Padilla and his nephew, Tony Padilla, owner of the company, said they will be flying to Orlando on Sunday to post a $500,000 bond on Monday for the release of Casey Anthony. It is believed that Casey can't be released until Monday, because she needs to first be fitted for an ankle monitoring device, something not usually done on weekends.

"We'll have people with her 24/7. It has a lot to do with a lot of things," Leonard Padilla told Eyewitness News by phone on Friday (raw interview). "One is investment. Another is the fact that the more you know someone, the more you trust them."

If Anthony does bond out, she may not go back to her parents' home in order to avoid the media. Padilla said someone from his company would stay with her around the clock. Padilla did say if additional charges are added Anthony's bond is increased, his company would not put up the higher amount.

Casey Anthony is charged with child endangerment and lying to authorities in the disappearnce of her 3-year-old daughter, Caylee. Casey reported Caylee missing nearly a month ago but has frustrated investigators by providing little information on her whereabouts.


CASEY ANTHONY MADE CALL FROM REMOTE AREA

Woods and water are the perfect place to hide a body and the one place no one reported Casey Anthony ever visited until now. Channel 9 uncovered what could be a major break in the Caylee Anthony case.


Rest of story at link:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17202561/detail.html

[KittyMom]

I hope these "searchers" were very careful about how they did their search. Any defense atty worth his salt would protest having untrained people out collecting evidence.

[Faith]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/mymap-1.jpg

[Harmony]

Faith did we have that map up before. It looks familiar. Is Obi-kadoodle here? (Audie)

[mollybrown]

Bondsman Thinks Additional Charges Possible For Casey Anthony
POSTED: 3:48 pm EDT August 15, 2008
UPDATED: 7:17 pm EDT August 16, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- ......One of the owners of the bond company said he thought the Orange County Sheriff's Office might try to add additional charges to Anthony in order to get a higher bond.

Snipped with respect.;)
http://www.wftv.com/news/17202561/detail.html

Since Padilla Squared has said that they will not go any higher then the 500,000. From your quote to GODs ears. :friends3:

[Tracian]

Thanks Faith, great work!

I wish they would have shown the backpacks



Thanks Faith...I am so emotional today, this sent me over the edge.

I don't have many nice thoughts about that family right now...so I best just keep quiet.

[mollybrown]

Thanks Faith...I am so emotional today, this sent me over the edge.

I don't have many nice thoughts about that family right now...so I best just keep quiet.

AWWW Tracian :021:

You did good today girl, really good. :friends3:

[Faith]

Faith did we have that map up before. It looks familiar. Is Obi-kadoodle here? (Audie)

I'm not sure, Harmony. I just took those screenshots.

[Faith]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/mymap-2.jpg

[Faith]

Thanks Faith...I am so emotional today, this sent me over the edge.

I don't have many nice thoughts about that family right now...so I best just keep quiet.

:love0081: I know, to me this is the day that something happened to Caylee 2 months ago. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[Jute]

Video from where the items were located.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7223603&version=1&locale=EN-US

I wish that I lived closer, I think it's just wonderful of these people to take it upon themselves to go and search.

[awakening2lite]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/mymap-2.jpg

It appears to be a residential area with some type of sports park.
I wish we knew more about the exact location of the find, like in the brush, off the roadway, in the woods, etc.

[awakening2lite]

Faith can you put up a screen shot of the canal directly north of the sports complex parking lot? TIA

[mollybrown]

I wish that I lived closer, I think it's just wonderful of these people to take it upon themselves to go and search.

I Believe, that there would be hundreds out there looking if it wasn't for the Anthony lies that have been sprewed over the airwaves over the last month. :000a1:

The only person who is suffering because of the Anthony's carp is CAYLEE, Be safe tonight little girl..... We love you....:1222423:

Goodnight all, have a great Sunday. Packers losing 24/6 to SF. :lex_10: Well it is pre-season so I will hold out hope.

[Jute]

Since Padilla Squared has said that they will not go any higher then the 500,000. From your quote to GODs ears. :friends3:

Eyes and fingers crossed! :hifive:

[awakening2lite]

I Believe, that there would be hundreds out there looking if it wasn't for the Anthony lies that have been sprewed over the airwaves over the last month. :000a1:

The only person who is suffering because of the Anthony's carp is CAYLEE, Be safe tonight little girl..... We love you....:1222423:

Goodnight all, have a great Sunday. Packers losing 24 6 to SF. :lex_10: Well it is pre-season so I will hold out hope.

Good Night MollyBrown :happy0207:

see you tomorrow