Caylee Marie Anthony Missing 2 year-old Missing since 6/9/08 reported on 7/15/08 #50

[Faith]

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[Texas53]

From the question about DNA and bone marrow, bones can tell a lot whether there is tissue or not and regardless.

[mollybrown]

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Duh, I am having trouble remembering all the facts tonight. Has Casey's cell phone & sims card ever been found?
:smiley_aasg:


Well "SHE SAID" that she lost her blackjack at the Blanchard park place...... but her OTHER phone and sims card have been recovered. As best as I can tell casey thought the blackjack "Calls" couldn't be traced because it was lost BUT she had the sims card in the OTHER phone. Not the brightest bulb in the box as far as I can tell ROFLMAO

[awakening2lite]

EXCERPT

WESH 2 has learned about offers of more than $1 million for Casey Anthony to tell her story.

A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her.

A spokesman for Jose Baez said offers have come in as high as $1.5 million for book rights, movie rights, TV deals, even a pay-per-view offer.

"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.

Black said they're listening to all offers but for now not accepting anything.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

[Texas53]

Thats why we the people (and parents of murder victims) need to push Federal and State lawmakers to pass a bill BEFORE and not after a conviction to keep people from profiting off a victim.

[mollybrown]

snipped with respect.......
Black said they're listening to all offers but for now not accepting anything.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

YET


grrrrrrr

[Texas53]

EXCERPT

WESH 2 has learned about offers of more than $1 million for Casey Anthony to tell her story.

A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her.

A spokesman for Jose Baez said offers have come in as high as $1.5 million for book rights, movie rights, TV deals, even a pay-per-view offer.

"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.

Black said they're listening to all offers but for now not accepting anything.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

The companies offering are just wanting ratings and $$$$$$$. Unfortunately, our society has sunk to a real low and people will buy the trash. JMHO

[cavimom]

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Well "SHE SAID" that she lost her blackjack at the Blanchard park place...... but her OTHER phone and sims card have been recovered. As best as I can tell casey thought the blackjack "Calls" couldn't be traced because it was lost BUT she had the sims card in the OTHER phone. Not the brightest bulb in the box as far as I can tell ROFLMAO

I have a HARD time believing that IF she lost her cellie.. with all this MEDIA coverage someone wouldnt come forward and give it to LE...A blackjack is pretty gib and im sure IF it was dropped in the park.. someome found it! Thats because she didnt lose it.. SHE GOT RID OF IT!!!! PERIOD! IMO!

[mollybrown]

I have a HARD time believing that IF she lost her cellie.. with all this MEDIA coverage someone wouldnt come forward and give it to LE... Thats because she didnt lose it.. SHE GOT RID OF IT!!!! PERIOD! IMO!

Doesn't matter, they have the card that controls all the interaction on the card regardless of WHAT phone it's in.

[emmeblu]

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Well "SHE SAID" that she lost her blackjack at the Blanchard park place...... but her OTHER phone and sims card have been recovered. As best as I can tell casey thought the blackjack "Calls" couldn't be traced because it was lost BUT she had the sims card in the OTHER phone. Not the brightest bulb in the box as far as I can tell ROFLMAO

Thanks. I thought I remembered the phone with sims was lost. I must admit that I am kind of shocked that Casey would not know call records are always available from the cell provider. At any rate, she obviously did not know her pc held search information like: Chloroform.

Not very bright in that regard at all. Agree.
JMO

[Texas53]

I have a HARD time believing that IF she lost her cellie.. with all this MEDIA coverage someone wouldnt come forward and give it to LE...A blackjack is pretty gib and im sure IF it was dropped in the park.. someome found it! Thats because she didnt lose it.. SHE GOT RID OF IT!!!! PERIOD! IMO!


Even the best criminals never get away totally free. JMHO

[Claycat]

The companies offering are just wanting ratings and $$$$$$$. Unfortunately, our society has sunk to a real low and people will buy the trash. JMHO

Too true!

[Claycat]

There was a comment on one of the Greta Wire blogs asking if anyone had heard about bones being found near Amscot.

[emmeblu]

EXCERPT

WESH 2 has learned about offers of more than $1 million for Casey Anthony to tell her story.

A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her.

A spokesman for Jose Baez said offers have come in as high as $1.5 million for book rights, movie rights, TV deals, even a pay-per-view offer.

"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.

Black said they're listening to all offers but for now not accepting anything.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

How on earth can Casey enjoy that money if she is locked up in prison for the murder of her child? Wonder if all those $$$ offers will change her parents mind about telling WHAT THEY KNOW?
Pathetic.
Blood money. That poor baby.
JMO

[cavimom]

Even the best criminals never get away totally free. JMHO
I WISH THE MEDIA WOULD TRY TO BE HELPFUL AND ASK IF ANYONE HAS FOUND ANY CELL PHONE TO PLEASE TURN IT IN.. IF ITS NOT CASEY'S THEY WILL SIMPLY GIVE IT BACK! No questions asked!

How ABOUT giving some CASHOLA to someone who actually tries to HELP and turn in a cell phone! imo

[awakening2lite]

The companies offering are just wanting ratings and $$$$$$$. Unfortunately, our society has sunk to a real low and people will buy the trash. JMHO

It is interesting that it is deliberately released by Baez.

[cavimom]

Just Like DrewP set up a web site for a self defense fund. We crashed that site after a couple hours.

CAN WE CRASH CASEY'S SITES ASKING FOR BLOOD NONEY? IMO about the blood money of course!

[mollybrown]

I WISH THE MEDIA WOULD TRY TO BE HELPFUL AND ASK IF ANYONE HAS FOUND ANY CELL PHONE TO PLEASE TURN IT IN.. IF ITS NOT CASEY'S THEY WILL SIMPLY GIVE IT BACK! No questions asked!

How ABOUT giving some CASHOLA to someone who actually tries to HELP and turn in a cell phone! imo

Doesn't matter if they find the phone or not, LE has the sims card and all the information that was sent and recieved on ALL of caseys phones.

[mollybrown]

CAN WE CRASH CASEY'S SITES ASKING FOR BLOOD NONEY? IMO about the blood money of course!


We've done it before ;)

[cavimom]

It is interesting that it is deliberately released by Baez.

Well I hope people read all this and realize they need to KEEP THIER WALLETS SHUT.. Because she is being offered all this $$ and she is PROBABLY TAKING IT to sling Garbage!

[cavimom]

We've done it before ;)

WAY TO GO! :zm10: YOU DESERVE A MEDAL IN MY BOOK ...Jmo

[emmeblu]

Doesn't matter, they have the card that controls all the interaction on the card regardless of WHAT phone it's in.

That is true and I'm still having a hard time believing Casey did not know that. Didn't she like to watch CSI? Must be that part about the cell phone and pc records that just escaped her.
Duh. go figure that one.

Also, she must not have know that video is everywhere. re: Target.
Got to admit she is not really bright in that area at all.
JMO

[mollybrown]

How on earth can Casey enjoy that money if she is locked up in prison for the murder of her child? Wonder if all those $$$ offers will change her parents mind about telling WHAT THEY KNOW?
Pathetic.
Blood money. That poor baby.
JMO

well I believe that the A clan are covering their arses for the fight that they will have ahead of them. TRUTH be damned, give me the money.

[cavimom]

Doesn't matter if they find the phone or not, LE has the sims card and all the information that was sent and recieved on ALL of caseys phones.


I didnt know that! I thought she said the sim card was IN the LOST cell... Im glad you cleared that up Thank you!

[mollybrown]

That is true and I'm still having a hard time believing Casey did not know that. Didn't she like to watch CSI? Must be that part about the cell phone and pc records that just escaped her.
Duh. go figure that one.

Also, she must not have know that video is everywhere. re: Target.
Got to admit she is not really bright in that area at all.
JMO

According to some that have screen scape of her original myspace page, her favorite show was CSI. I have to imagine that she didn't COMPREHEND most of it. ROFLMAO

[awakening2lite]

How on earth can Casey enjoy that money if she is locked up in prison for the murder of her child? Wonder if all those $$$ offers will change her parents mind about telling WHAT THEY KNOW?
Pathetic.
Blood money. That poor baby.
JMO

Actually, I have two line of thought on this subject.

1. Baez obviously released it, but for what purpose? Perhaps he wants to push LE in to arresting her for murder.

2. If LE does not arrest her for murder, Baez might believe he can have her prison term reduced to less than a couple years because it is her first time offense. Then with good behavior she could get out in under a year.

That gives her the rest of her life to enjoy the money.

[cavimom]

Because the law only prohibits only if the person has been convicted of a crime. She hasn't been charged or convicted.....yet.

Ya BUT she does have charges filed against her... JB was hired for THOSE charges pending... IF she cannot afford a lawyer IMO she should be givin a PD!

[mollybrown]

I didnt know that! I thought she said the sim card was IN the LOST cell... Im glad you cleared that up Thank you!

ALSO FYI the cell phone company still has ALL YOUR INFORMATION. So don't go do something stupid while your cell phone is on. ROFLAMO

[Texas53]

Doesn't matter if they find the phone or not, LE has the sims card and all the information that was sent and recieved on ALL of caseys phones.

I wonder if LE hasn't checked G & C's cell bills. With a warrant it can be done. I retired from AT&T and know it can be done.

[cavimom]

Actually, I have two line of thought on this subject.

1. Baez obviously released it, but for what purpose? Perhaps he wants to push LE in to arresting her for murder.

2. If LE does not arrest her for murder, Baez might believe he can have her prison term reduced to less than a couple years because it is her first time offense. Then with good behavior she could get out in under a year.

That gives her the rest of her life to enjoy the money.
:frustratedf::madranting94dp: GOOD LORD!

[Texas53]

Ya BUT she does have charges filed against her... JB was hired for THOSE charges pending... IF she cannot afford a lawyer IMO she should be givin a PD!


Yeh, but then out tax money helps pay the PD. They get paid by the state/county.

[awakening2lite]

Because the law only prohibits only if the person has been convicted of a crime. She hasn't been charged or convicted.....yet.

Even if she is convicted Cindy, George or Lee could make money on it.

[cavimom]

Even if she is convicted Cindy, George or Lee could make money on it.


I know in the NEIL Entwistle case when he was found guilty.. the judge specifically said.. NOONE IS TO PROFIT FORM THIS CASE.. NOONE!

SO MAYBE SHE CAN PROFIT NOW.. CUZ THE JUDGE MAY SHUT HER DOWN!

[mollybrown]

I wonder if LE hasn't checked G & C's cell bills. With a warrant it can be done. I retired from AT&T and know it can be done.

I would bet that LE has ALL the records of everyone and they are going over them with a fine tooth comb. I wouldn't want that job on a bazillion years.

[Texas53]

I don't know of any state that will give no prison time for Manslaughter 1/2, or murder, regardless if its a first offense. She would have to have served a long time in jail waiting for trial.

[cavimom]

Yeh, but then out tax money helps pay the PD. They get paid by the state/county.


True but a PD is paid regardless.. he isnt gonna get paid MORE bcuz of this case AND noone can set up a fund to raise money to pay him...

[mollybrown]

Even if she is convicted Cindy, George or Lee could make money on it.
BUT with the lawyer bills and taxes that will be eaten up on no time, I would bet the 1.5 would JUST cover expenses. JMHO and all the other MOO

[awakening2lite]

I don't know of any state that will give no prison time for Manslaughter 1/2, or murder, regardless if its a first offense.

She would have to be charged with that. My senario was without the homicide charges.

[emmeblu]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?

[awakening2lite]

BUT with the lawyer bills and taxes that will be eaten up on no time, I would bet the 1.5 would jUST cover expenses. JMHO and all the other MOO

True. But they have not accepted those offers, perhaps they announced them to raise the ante.

[Texas53]

BUT with the lawyer bills and taxes that will be eaten up on no time, I would bet the 1.5 would jUST cover expenses. JMHO and all the other MOO


Unless they file bankruptcy or unless a judge rules that all profits be paid to another fund like Missing Children.

Once this is all over, the A's are going to be ostracized and lucky to live anywhere. This case has had so much media attention, they will never live in peace anywhere ever again. JMHO

[nicky]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?

I think once she decided to get rid of Caylee she concocted the babysitter taking her, then when the time was right she did just that.moo

[mollybrown]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?

I'm thinking that, that was caseys plan, if I don't talk about Caylee EVERYONE will forget she was ever there. :(

[mollybrown]

True. But they have not accepted those offers, perhaps they announced them to raise the ante.

These people make me SICK. (insert puking smilie)

[StoneFox]

Actually, I have two line of thought on this subject.

1. Baez obviously released it, but for what purpose? Perhaps he wants to push LE in to arresting her for murder.

2. If LE does not arrest her for murder, Baez might believe he can have her prison term reduced to less than a couple years because it is her first time offense. Then with good behavior she could get out in under a year.

That gives her the rest of her life to enjoy the money.

I thought maybe he went ahead and put it out there because a media outlet was about to print it. He wanted to get it out there first.

Or, he is playing the *story rights* with other parties that might have an interest. Like, we have these offers for 1 and 1.5 mil...to see if any other companies jump in and say...yeah but, what if we offer you 3 mil.

I dunno, IMO, he is out for #1. He wants to make sure he gets his share of the money out of this nightmare, and he wants to make sure it is top dollar.

Just my opinion though.

[Texas53]

I think once she decided to get rid of Caylee she concocted the babysitter taking her, then when the time was right she did just that.moo


Casey is psychotic and narcissitic. SHE thinks can get away with anything. JMHO

[mollybrown]

Unless they file bankruptcy or unless a judge rules that all profits be paid to another fund like Missing Children.

Once this is all over, the A's are going to be ostracized and lucky to live anywhere. This case has had so much media attention, they will never live in peace anywhere ever again. JMHO

Thanks to their blinding DEVOTION to casey.

[StoneFox]

True. But they have not accepted those offers, perhaps they announced them to raise the ante.

LOL...I just posted the same thing A2l!!

That is my thinking exactly...raising the ante.

[emmeblu]

Actually, I have two line of thought on this subject.

1. Baez obviously released it, but for what purpose? Perhaps he wants to push LE in to arresting her for murder.

2. If LE does not arrest her for murder, Baez might believe he can have her prison term reduced to less than a couple years because it is her first time offense. Then with good behavior she could get out in under a year.

That gives her the rest of her life to enjoy the money.

The very thought of Casey getting a "deal" with a "light sentence" makes me sick. I want the justice system to work in this case and I want Casey to sit in a jail cell.
I've always believed that people who are convicted of murder should stay in a jail cell as long as their victim has to stay in their grave. When the dead victims get a second chance at life then let their killers get a second chance. Until that happens, no dice as far as I am concerned.
JMO

[awakening2lite]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?

If you are asking my opinion, here it is:

First, I don't think reality plays a big part in Casey's real life.

Second, she might have imagined Tony falling in love with her and they would move away and start a new life together.

Third, I think she made up the kidnap story when she was cornered by Cindy.

[Texas53]

I thought maybe he went ahead and put it out there because a media outlet was about to print it. He wanted to get it out there first.

Or, he is playing the *story rights* with other parties that might have an interest. Like, we have these offers for 1 and 1.5 mil...to see if any other companies jump in and say...yeah but, what if we offer you 3 mil.

I dunno, IMO, he is out for #1. He wants to make sure he gets his share of the money out of this nightmare, and he wants to make sure it is top dollar.

Just my opinion though.


Sometimes attys will put out info to assist the prosecution. They can't say anything specific, but if they don't believe their client or have info that a murder was definitely committed, this is a way to help their conscience and not lose their license to practice. It's rare but can happen. Its also hard to prove against the atty.

[Texas53]

The very thought of Casey getting a "deal" with a "light sentence" makes me sick. I want the justice system to work in this case and I want Casey to sit in a jail cell.
I've always believed that people who are convicted of murder should stay in a jail cell as long as their victim has to stay in their grave. When the dead victims get a second chance at life then let their killers get a second chance. Until that happens, no dice as far as I am concerned.
JMO


If its murder or manslaughter, unless she has been in jail a long time while waiting to go on trial (would be time served), she will not escape prison. If I'm not mistaken, FL doesn't let insanity be a reason for defense.

[awakening2lite]

LOL...I just posted the same thing A2l!!

That is my thinking exactly...raising the ante.

Like minds! (imagine our high five)

[emmeblu]

I wonder if LE hasn't checked G & C's cell bills. With a warrant it can be done. I retired from AT&T and know it can be done.

Yes and if LE sends AT&T or other phone company a court order, they can obtain the records from the land line. Not sure how long those land line records are retained now but 3 years ago, AT&T was able to go back and give me records for 2 years.

[Texas53]

Yes and if LE sends AT&T or other phone company a court order, they can obtain the records from the land line. Not sure how long those land line records are retained now but 3 years ago, AT&T was able to go back and give me records for 2 years.


In the case of a warrant, AT&T can go back beyond 2 yrs. It takes awhile, but it can be done. When I worked in that division, we went back almost 8 yrs on a case. Cell records I didn't handle so I'm not sure.

[StoneFox]

Like minds! (imagine our high five)

It would be a doozy friend!

[emmeblu]

In the case of a warrant, AT&T can go back beyond 2 yrs. It takes awhile, but it can be done. When I worked in that division, we went back almost 8 yrs on a case. Cell records I didn't handle so I'm not sure.

Good deal Texas. Bet technology has helped LE solve many cases.
Thanks for your years served in the telecommunications field.

[Texas53]

Good deal Texas. Bet technology has helped LE solve many cases.
Thanks for your years served in the telecommunications field.


By the way, the defendant of that case is serving on Death Row and waiting execution.

[emmeblu]

By the way, the defendant of that case is serving on Death Row and waiting execution.

Great news.

[Harmony]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

[StoneFox]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

I think TonE said Casey had a bag of groceries when he picked her up. So, she spent some of the time grocery shopping, IMO.

[Claycat]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

When Tony picked Casey up, she had groceries with her.

[mollybrown]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

IIRC casey did meet TonE away from the car, at Amscot and she had shopping bags, maybe she went grocery shopping and spent the time at sam's club and wally world. You know she was wanting to contribute to her new household. LMAO.

[awakening2lite]

The very thought of Casey getting a "deal" with a "light sentence" makes me sick. I want the justice system to work in this case and I want Casey to sit in a jail cell.
I've always believed that people who are convicted of murder should stay in a jail cell as long as their victim has to stay in their grave. When the dead victims get a second chance at life then let their killers get a second chance. Until that happens, no dice as far as I am concerned.
JMO

I don't want to see any deals either, but she is entitled to the same treatment the law provides to others. So, IF LE does not charge her with any new charges she might plead down to just a few years and then time off for good behavior cutting it down more.

I'm hoping, as you are, that she will (at least) be charged with a homicide and not plead it down to manslaughter. IIRC manslaughter is usually a

(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0775/Sec082.HTM

When looking up the penalty it ranges from 30 years to life.

[Texas53]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?


Some Walmarts (24 hr) have a restaurant area (McDonald's, etc) in the store. She might have waiting there until she was able to call Tony. Walmart Super Stores have grocery sections.

[awakening2lite]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

He said she was standing outside the car with an arm full of groceries.

[awakening2lite]

I think TonE said Casey had a bag of groceries when he picked her up. So, she spent some of the time grocery shopping, IMO.

Friend, we have another high five, here!

[Harmony]

Thanks Molly, Claycat, and Stone Fox for your replies!

[Madhatter]

Investigators with the Orange County Sheriff's Office said they're examining some bones and clothes found at a local park. They said they believe the bones are from an animal, but they're still checking it carefully.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17426676/detail.html

[Faith]

Originally Posted by Harmony http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/images/styles/default/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=387110#post387110)
Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?


Harmony, who is Nate? know anything about him?

[Faith]

Investigators with the Orange County Sheriff's Office said they're examining some bones and clothes found at a local park. They said they believe the bones are from an animal, but they're still checking it carefully.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17426676/detail.html


ahh so it was true, tyvm

[Faith]

Originally Posted by Harmony http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/images/styles/default/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?p=387110#post387110)
Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?


I heard or read, can't recall which now that Casey ran out of gas and some guys helped push the car and it was said by Sams.

[cavimom]

If its murder or manslaughter, unless she has been in jail a long time while waiting to go on trial (would be time served), she will not escape prison. If I'm not mistaken, FL doesn't let insanity be a reason for defense.

Figures cuz this girl is imo Insane! and not temporarily so either!

[StoneFox]

This came up earlier and may have been addressed already.

Full Sail University
http://www.fullsail.edu/index.cfm/fa/splash.main/full-sail-real-world-education

For entertainment and media studies.

3300 University Blvd. Winter Park, Florida 32792

Is that anywhere close to this UCF area LE is searching?

This is where TonE and Nate were going to school.

[cavimom]

Harmony, who is Nate? know anything about him?

Nate is anothe room mate of Tony's he was staying there..

[Jute]

EXCERPT

WESH 2 has learned about offers of more than $1 million for Casey Anthony to tell her story.

A defense fund is also in the process of being established for her.

A spokesman for Jose Baez said offers have come in as high as $1.5 million for book rights, movie rights, TV deals, even a pay-per-view offer.

"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.

Black said they're listening to all offers but for now not accepting anything.

source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

As I read this, 3 thoughts immediately came to my mind:

1. there are "compelling reasons" that Casey will not talk,

2. a defense fund is being established; on NG it was stated that offers are being considered but not accepted - they may be if needed for the defense fund (I believe, but am not absolutely positive, that this came from the PR firm's press release;) there seems - to me - to be considerable pride in the fact that these offers are being received,

3. why is a defense fund that will solicit funds to defend Casey being set up when she is charged with relatively minor offenses?

At that point, the blood rushed to my head and I now have a pounding headache - I'll have to think about this in a bit, but my own version of "excited utterances" make me want to scream.

My thoughts only. IMO - JMO - MOO

3.

[Harmony]

Harmony, who is Nate? know anything about him?

Tonight was the first time I had heard of him. I did not know there were three guys living there.

[Jute]

Does anyone know whether the neighbor's house is really up for sale? I'm really behind in my reading but don't see a sign on the web cam; I'm wondering if someone put the sign out as a "joke."

[Pauli]

Jute I think they know it's only a matter of time before Casey is charged...

[P.I.Jane]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?

The Amscot is directly at the corner of the intersection. Next to the Amscot, but set way back off the road is the Sam's Club. That is one of the places where I passed out flyers on Saturday just after her first arrest. I think it was on 6/19/08.

edited: The date was 6/21/08.

[Jute]

Thats why we the people (and parents of murder victims) need to push Federal and State lawmakers to pass a bill BEFORE and not after a conviction to keep people from profiting off a victim.

YES! I would imagine it would be difficult to write because it would hard to prove the difference between legitimate donations and those that (IMO) are inappropriate and immoral profiteering, but it can be done. JMO

[cavimom]

This came up earlier and may have been addressed already.

Full Sail University
http://www.fullsail.edu/index.cfm/fa/splash.main/full-sail-real-world-education

For entertainment and media studies.

3300 University Blvd. Winter Park, Florida 32792

Is that anywhere close to this UCF area LE is searching?

This is where TonE and Nate were going to school.
I wonder IF Casey actually filled out any paperwork at admissions?

[Faith]

7701 E Colonial Dr, Orlando, FL 32807

http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1p2MG8yLj48h4rV25H0SdSxs1_1YNZu1WPtRAvGOH3VxjRnLc VFW_cj5KqT8Qdnrj0e7ulLCg3OVo9J2Sn8CZKcQ

This is the map, Sams is marked and you can see AmScot

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/sams.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2evfdl5.jpg

[Harmony]

I heard or read, can't recall which now that Casey ran out of gas and some guys helped push the car and it was said by Sams.

I recall that, too. IIRC It was in Casey's statement or interview with LE. I was trying to figure out if that was the day she called Jesse about taking a shower there. Don't you think her skin, clothes, and hair would have reeked after driving the car?

[P.I.Jane]

I recall that, too. IIRC It was in Casey's statement or interview with LE. I was trying to figure out if that was the day she called Jesse about taking a shower there. Don't you think her skin, clothes, and hair would have reeked after driving the car?

Ewwwwww! You're right!

[Harmony]

That is within walking distance. What time does Sam's open?

[cavimom]

I heard or read, can't recall which now that Casey ran out of gas and some guys helped push the car and it was said by Sams.


If this is TRUE.. that some "guys" helped her push her car.. then with all this media attention WHY DONT THESE GUYS COME FORWARD AND SAY " I or We helped her push her car" THIS is where it ran out of gas and try to give an approx time?

Maybe she drove around till her tank was on fumes and pulled into the space, did what she had to so and ran it till it ran out of gas... Just some thoughts here.....

I would think the BIG Newspapers can run a HUGE ad in its papers asking for people to come forward... phone, car ect....

[Faith]

Nate is anothe room mate of Tony's he was staying there..


I know, I was looking for his last name. ty

[cavimom]

I know, I was looking for his last name. ty LOL OH sorry. blonde moment... Im in RARE form tonight :71526:

[Faith]

If this is TRUE.. that some "guys" helped her push her car.. then with all this media attention WHY DONT THESE GUYS COME FORWARD AND SAY " I or We helped her push her car" THIS is where it ran out of gas and try to give an approx time?

Maybe she drove around till her tank was on fumes and pulled into the space, did what she had to so and ran it till it ran out of gas... Just some thoughts here.....

I would think the BIG Newspapers can run a HUGE ad in its papers asking for people to come forward... phone, car ect....

I don't believe it. I think anyone would have come forth by now.

[Shotzie]

Did anyone see, they still have a search team it is Joe JOrdan, an they have been searching since TES left, so people haven't given up Thank God
THis is information on it if anyone wants to help.
He does belong toTES.

Joseph S. Jordan
Board Member of S.A.V.E. Kaylee
www.momsforjustice.org (http://www.momsforjustice.org/)
Member of Texas Equusearch
www.texasequusearch.org (http://www.texasequusearch.org/)
joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com
He gives updates of his searches..

On that Lady on picking up the trash..WAY to Go. I bet there are clues in there what is going on in that house. Now I am sure they will shred or Geo will drive it to a Dumpster..maybe someone will follow him to see what dumpster...ha.ha.:francis:She will be writing a blog..that is great

[Faith]

Video- Casey Anthony Spends Hours At Baez's Office 9/9/08

http://www.wesh.com/video/17431737/

When Casey left today she did not have with her the items she took in unless Lee had already got them.

ETA she had her backpack

[Faith]

Did anyone see, they still have a search team it is Joe JOrdan, an they have been searching since TES left, so people haven't given up Thank God
THis is information on it if anyone wants to help.
He does belong toTES.

Joseph S. Jordan
Board Member of S.A.V.E. Kaylee
www.momsforjustice.org (http://www.momsforjustice.org/)
Member of Texas Equusearch
www.texasequusearch.org (http://www.texasequusearch.org/)
joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com
He gives updates of his searches..

On that Lady on picking up the trash..WAY to Go. I bet there are clues in there what is going on in that house. Now I am sure they will shred or Geo will drive it to a Dumpster..maybe someone will follow him to see what dumpster...ha.ha.:francis:She will be writing a blog..that is great



Yes, we talked about this earlier today. If the lady had good intentions she wouldn't have told anyone. JMO

The video I just posted had that lady on there.

[Breezy]

I don't recall ever seeing this link before.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/equalizeyou/

[Faith]

I don't recall ever seeing this link before.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/equalizeyou/

Oh I have, disgusting photos, JMO.

[P.I.Jane]

That is within walking distance. What time does Sam's open?

I think they open at 10 am.

[P.I.Jane]

I don't recall ever seeing this link before.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/equalizeyou/
Yup, it's been out. Lovely, isn't it? (being sarcastic, of course)

[Faith]

High-profile lawyer Mark NeJame - who is representing George and Cindy Anthony - plan to make a national media blitz Wednesday in effort to get the public's focus off his clients and on the search for their missing granddaughter, 3-year-old Caylee Marie. Missing-children organization Never Lose Hope Foundation helped the Anthony's retain NeJame who is working at a reduce rate.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0908sep09,0,7013668.story


The Never Lose Hope Foundation, Inc. was organized as a Florida nonprofit on April 30, 2007, exclusively for charitable purposes. Never Lose Hope Foundation, Inc.’s 501(c)(3) status is currently pending with the Internal Revenue Service, but the organization has secured fiscal sponsorship from Citylinks 4Charities, Inc., a nonprofit organization based in Orlando, Florida. Through this program, City Links will provide oversight and allocation of all funding for our activities until we have received our 501 determination.

Contributions to support the efforts of the Never Lose Hope Foundation are welcome and greatly appreciated. To make a tax-deductible donation to assist NLHF in finding missing children, please make checks payable to City Links 4Charities, Inc., and note that the donation is for the Never Lose Hope Foundation fund. A receipt will be provided for your tax records.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/fiscalsponsorship.html

Under Missing Kids there are only six and Caylee is not one of them, must not be updated.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/missing_kids.html


July 24, 2008
There are a dozen billboards local businesses donated that feature messages to help find Caylee Anthony. The donated billboard and donations from an exotic car dealer of $200,000 for a reward leading to Caylee's safe return are the work of The Never Lose Hope Foundation. It registered as a corporation in Florida just a year ago.

The foundation uses a reverse 911-type technology to allow relatives of missing kids, like Caylee's grandfather, to send recorded messages to thousands of residents at once appealing for tips.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16980411/detail.html

[Jute]

I would bet that LE has ALL the records of everyone and they are going over them with a fine tooth comb. I wouldn't want that job on a bazillion years.

I've done exactly that - for business reasons - it's amazing how determined you can become when you're looking for small details. I didn't have the extensive records that LE has, of course, but I dug through lots of info. Even basic cell records hold many secrets that are easily picked up once you know what you're searching for. JMO

[Jute]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?

This is simply my take, MOO, IMO, JMO. I don't think that Casey was planning to do anything; she was too wrapped up in Casey to give it a thought. At some point, she obviously cooked up this elaborate story that she has been telling, but my guess she would have continued to tell people Caylee was with the nanny for as long as she could - at that point, she might she tell people that Caylee had gone to live with relatives or even been adopted. If Cindy hadn't received the notice that her car had been towed, who knows how long she would have continued to demand no accounting for where Caylee was. Cindy's call is very possibly the only reason that anyone would ever know that Caylee is missing.

Other than her birth certificate, there is no official record of Caylee Marie Anthony. Everything else is anecdotal, even the photos could be claimed as being another child - an elaborate hoax. No agencies follow up on every birth certificate issued, who knows how many children are no longer alive because there wasn't a family member or friend who reported the child missing? Cindy is the only reason that the world knows that Caylee has disappeared off the face of the world. JMO - IMO - MOO

[Jute]

Unless they file bankruptcy or unless a judge rules that all profits be paid to another fund like Missing Children.

Once this is all over, the A's are going to be ostracized and lucky to live anywhere. This case has had so much media attention, they will never live in peace anywhere ever again. JMHO

I heard one of the protesters on a video that NG showed yelling at the Anthonys to go back to Ohio.

[Jute]

Tonight was the first time I had heard of him. I did not know there were three guys living there.

It's interesting that there is no statement from him in the 400 pages LE released and that the first we've heard of him is through NG. Definitely an "hmm" moment.

[Jute]

Jute I think they know it's only a matter of time before Casey is charged...

I realize that, Pauli, but it just shocks me that this is turning into the sensational media event that it is. I'm very alarmed by the fact that there are PR people involved in trying to sell Casey as something that the public could possibly benefit from seeing. JMO

[Jute]

I wonder IF Casey actually filled out any paperwork at admissions?

Casey didn't graduate from HS and hasn't completed her GED. I would be surprised if a state university wouldn't require one or the other. Of course, that doesn't mean she couldn't fill out an application.

[Jute]

Video- Casey Anthony Spends Hours At Baez's Office 9/9/08

http://www.wesh.com/video/17431737/

When Casey left today she did not have with her the items she took in unless Lee had already got them.

ETA she had her backpack

NG said that Baez's phone couldn't be tapped because of his need for atty./client privilege. Is it possible that he could claim that Casey has files related to her case, and therefore protected by privilege, on her laptop - thereby making it impossible for LE to search the hard drive?

[Stacey3772]

This is simply my take, MOO, IMO, JMO. I don't think that Casey was planning to do anything; she was too wrapped up in Casey to give it a thought. At some point, she obviously cooked up this elaborate story that she has been telling, but my guess she would have continued to tell people Caylee was with the nanny for as long as she could - at that point, she might she tell people that Caylee had gone to live with relatives or even been adopted. If Cindy hadn't received the notice that her car had been towed, who knows how long she would have continued to demand no accounting for where Caylee was. Cindy's call is very possibly the only reason that anyone would ever know that Caylee is missing.

Other than her birth certificate, there is no official record of Caylee Marie Anthony. Everything else is anecdotal, even the photos could be claimed as being another child - an elaborate hoax. No agencies follow up on every birth certificate issued, who knows how many children are no longer alive because there wasn't a family member or friend who reported the child missing? Cindy is the only reason that the world knows that Caylee has disappeared off the face of the world. JMO - IMO - MOO

you make an excellent point Jute.....

[Jute]

The companies offering are just wanting ratings and $$$$$$$. Unfortunately, our society has sunk to a real low and people will buy the trash. JMHO

The following are my own thoughts only.

Of all the behaviors and events in this case that have shocked and alarmed me - hearing that the mother of a missing young child had laughed during her arraignment for child abuse was what caught my attention in the first place - the announcement by Baez and the PR firm he has hired to "handle" Casey's case is by far the most frightening to me.

If Baez's claims of offers are true, which they may not be - he has been untruthful before, for example when he claimed that LE had not contacted him to discuss the case, despite LE's statements to the contrary - the possibility of a new source for media to mine for ratings reflects an alarming trend in societal mores.

What would Casey possibly say? Baez has done an excellent job of ensuring that she will not talk, other than to continue the web of lies she has spun all along. Anyone who pays to listen to or read her lies, IMO, needs to take a hard look at why they would do this. The very idea of a campaign to raise funds for the defense of a mother who refuses to tell where her young daughter is so abhorrent that it defies reason.

I can recall watching Mark Lundsford, a man who I hold in high regard, and feeling so terribly helpless because there was nothing I could do to help him with his grief. The only thing I had to offer Mark was financial support that might make his life just a tiny bit easier, but it was small comfort. There are countless parents of missing children who would love to have help in finding their lost children, but many are ignored by society because their situation doesn't have the media's attention.

My only hope would be that Casey would trip herself up as Scott Peterson did during an interview; but I don't see that happening. From what I've seen of Baez, he is using the disappearance of a little girl, Caylee Anthony, as nothing but a stepping stone to what he hopes is a more significant career.

Also, in my opinion, the fact that NeJame will be interviewed, supposedly to ask for more national attention on Caylee, falls into the same area of sensationalist media coverage. Cindy and George Anthony are doing nothing to find their granddaughter - alive or dead. Why should an attorney hired by them, with the help on an organization that is intended to find missing children, be given an audience on national tv? I'm interested to hear what he says, but only because I am so desperate to understand why no one in this family is actually doing anything to find Caylee. Beyond that, I sincerely hope that media will step up and stand behind Caylee herself - protecting the mother and grandparents is unimportant. Casey has the answers, if her parents choose to believe her, that is their right - but they have no right to bury the truth about what has happened to 3 year old Caylee Marie Anthony.

These are my thoughts and opinions only.

[Stacey3772]

I agree with you Jute, this case gets more puzzling and sickening as it goes. I truly think no one except the A's inner circle (which seems quite small) believes Caylee is alive. Has John Walsh stepped forward to do a segment? no. Was an amber alert ever put out? No. NO ONE believes this child is alive, and I cant understand G&C - regardless of their behavior NOW, prior to this they seemed like normal, functioning members of society. They seemed sane, intelligent people (until the denial set in).

As for Baez, you're right about the stepping stones and he makes my stomach turn... him and his little smirk.

Lastly, Im not condoning G&Cs bizaare behavior - they did THAT to themselves. If they didnt give media and protesters anything to look at they would get bored and go home (ie, USE YOUR GARAGE PEOPLE!) but, I am the family member of a murder victim and I would NOT want to be judged based on my actions in those dark days... it was NOT pretty, I assure you. Its been 9 months and im still not completely back to my old self.

Anyhoo - if you're still reading this, thanks for lending an ear! :tender:

[Jute]

I agree with you Jute, this case gets more puzzling and sickening as it goes. I truly think no one except the A's inner circle (which seems quite small) believes Caylee is alive. Has John Walsh stepped forward to do a segment? no. Was an amber alert ever put out? No. NO ONE believes this child is alive, and I cant understand G&C - regardless of their behavior NOW, prior to this they seemed like normal, functioning members of society. They seemed sane, intelligent people (until the denial set in).

As for Baez, you're right about the stepping stones and he makes my stomach turn... him and his little smirk.

Lastly, Im not condoning G&Cs bizaare behavior - they did THAT to themselves. If they didnt give media and protesters anything to look at they would get bored and go home (ie, USE YOUR GARAGE PEOPLE!) but, I am the family member of a murder victim and I would NOT want to be judged based on my actions in those dark days... it was NOT pretty, I assure you. Its been 9 months and im still not completely back to my old self.

Anyhoo - if you're still reading this, thanks for lending an ear! :tender:

I'm so sorry to hear that you have been affected by the murder of a family member, Stacey - I can't imagine your pain. And you're right about not judging the family - no one can foresee what they would do under those circumstances. I do hope that as more time passes, your pain will diminish - although I suspect it will never be completely gone.

Years ago, the sister of a friend was murdered. I spent many hours with her, just listening to her. In a relatively short period of time, her sister's children came to live with her and she raised them into adulthood. This was her salvation, having the kids with her kept a part of her sister alive.

I agree that the Anthonys should just step back into the shadows completely. As I've said before, I struggle more and more to separate the grieving grandparents from the people I see putting themselves into the spotlight, always in attack mode. Along with their fear and grief, it's natural to feel tremendous anger - but theirs is misdirected, IMO, and it is harming them. MOO

[Stacey3772]

I agree that the Anthonys should just step back into the shadows completely. As I've said before, I struggle more and more to separate the grieving grandparents from the people I see putting themselves into the spotlight, always in attack mode. Along with their fear and grief, it's natural to feel tremendous anger - but theirs is misdirected, IMO, and it is harming them. MOO

you're very eloquent in your words - you make your points perfectly. I agree, i think someday VERY far off in the future, Cindy may look back or see herself on tv and think "Dear God, is that ME? Did I say/do those things?" Shes definately not my favorite person right now because of the way shes handling everything.... some serious damage control needs to be done there, IMO. But regardless shes a human mourning and missing her grandchild. I know G has taken alot of crap too, for the way he lashes out, but my father would be the same way. My dad was never a violent man. He is a 24 year marine corp veteran, 3x viet nam vet and currently a police officer... he is used to being in control of hus surroundings. When backed in a corner he lashes out.... period. So I see a little of that in George. NOT that its ok to push people and scream back. They have made alot of mistakes, but what can they do?? you cant 'un-ring' a bell.

I just hope one of the A's will soon see the 'light' and do right by CAYLEE.

[cavimom]

I sent a quick e-mail to Moms for justice ( http://www.momsforjustice.org/ )begging them NOT to give any $$ to the Anthony's! I asked that if they wanted to help they should give the money to Tim at Equusearch!! That would be the BEST way to help Caylee!

Maybe we can all send e-mails to them suggesting that if they want to help the Anthony's in ANY way .. PLEASE Help find Caylee... JMO of course

[protectkidz]

Casey didn't graduate from HS and hasn't completed her GED. I would be surprised if a state university wouldn't require one or the other. Of course, that doesn't mean she couldn't fill out an application.

I thought she was interested in going to beauty college, per the pamphlets found in her car?

[LiveLaughLuv]

How on earth can Casey enjoy that money if she is locked up in prison for the murder of her child? Wonder if all those $$$ offers will change her parents mind about telling WHAT THEY KNOW?
Pathetic.
Blood money. That poor baby.
JMO

Good morning all.

They are also in the process of setting up a website for Casey's defense. If she accecpts those proposals it will go to her defense fund. I think her myspace showed "worried" for a good reason. They are now looking in an area near UCF (University of Central Florida). Out of all those pings, this is the one place that was not a place she regularly freqented. It is out of her regular movements.

Taking contributions for her defense instead of to find Caylee is infuriating.

[protectkidz]

High-profile lawyer Mark NeJame - who is representing George and Cindy Anthony - plan to make a national media blitz Wednesday in effort to get the public's focus off his clients and on the search for their missing granddaughter, 3-year-old Caylee Marie. Missing-children organization Never Lose Hope Foundation helped the Anthony's retain NeJame who is working at a reduce rate.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0908sep09,0,7013668.story


The Never Lose Hope Foundation, Inc. was organized as a Florida nonprofit on April 30, 2007, exclusively for charitable purposes. Never Lose Hope Foundation, Inc.’s 501(c)(3) status is currently pending with the Internal Revenue Service, but the organization has secured fiscal sponsorship from Citylinks 4Charities, Inc., a nonprofit organization based in Orlando, Florida. Through this program, City Links will provide oversight and allocation of all funding for our activities until we have received our 501 determination.

Contributions to support the efforts of the Never Lose Hope Foundation are welcome and greatly appreciated. To make a tax-deductible donation to assist NLHF in finding missing children, please make checks payable to City Links 4Charities, Inc., and note that the donation is for the Never Lose Hope Foundation fund. A receipt will be provided for your tax records.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/fiscalsponsorship.html

Under Missing Kids there are only six and Caylee is not one of them, must not be updated.

http://www.neverlosehopefoundation.org/missing_kids.html


July 24, 2008
There are a dozen billboards local businesses donated that feature messages to help find Caylee Anthony. The donated billboard and donations from an exotic car dealer of $200,000 for a reward leading to Caylee's safe return are the work of The Never Lose Hope Foundation. It registered as a corporation in Florida just a year ago.

The foundation uses a reverse 911-type technology to allow relatives of missing kids, like Caylee's grandfather, to send recorded messages to thousands of residents at once appealing for tips.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16980411/detail.html

never heard of them until this case.

They are a corporation? not a non-profit?

[LiveLaughLuv]

Got to ask your opinion.
I"ve thought about this over & over.
Ok, Casey did not report her child missing. Casey continued to party, cook, clean for b/friend like life was normal.
What do you think she was planning to do? What do you think was going through this girl's mind.
Was she planning to never see her parents again and thus would not have to explain the whereabouts of Caylee?
I mean if Cindy had not tracked her down who would even know Caylee is missing now.

I just wonder what you all think. I mean it is not like you can just get rid of your child and no one takes notice. Any thoughts?


After seeing Nate on NG last night, it was chilling.

I got the Susan Smith sensation.

I feel Casey thought she would have an ideal family with TonyL. Only she didn't count on those guys telling her they didn't think it was a good idea to bring Caylee around. He made it seem like the door was open and people in/out 24/7. Casey would cook, clean and prepare dinner. She even came with groceries at times. They thought she was an event planner and at times worked from her computer.

They knew Casey didn't want Caylee at her mothers house to be subjected to all that was going on, (she didn't specify what trouble)and thought having a nanny was something a single parent does, she makes enough money, so it wasn't questioned.

Casey would spend nights w/o Caylee, so I wonder where this poor baby was sleeping alone. When they asked Casey about Caylee, she was always with Zanie, at a park, a beach, etc. They never knew she was missing. When they found out, it was like, what do you mean Caylee is missing? Isn't she with the nanny?

Had she left the state, no one would have been the wiser. If it wasn't for Cindy, she would have never told anyone about Caylee, like she just vanished!

[LiveLaughLuv]

Harmony, who is Nate? know anything about him?


Nate Clint, TonyL's roomate.

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Figures cuz this girl is imo Insane! and not temporarily so either!


No Cavi, she is not insane. Mentally unstable but not insane.

She knew right from wrong or she wouldn't have concocted this elaborate tale.

[annalyzer]

Only she didn't count on those guys telling her they didn't think it was a good idea to bring Caylee around.


Good morning everyone. I must have missed this. When and to who did Nate say this?

Anything else new today?

[LiveLaughLuv]

Good morning everyone. I must have missed this. When and to who did Nate say this?

Anything else new today?

Last night he was on NG. It was chilling to hear him.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Good morning everyone. I must have missed this. When and to who did Nate say this?

Anything else new today?



NATE, FORMER ROOMMATE OF CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, Miss Nancy, I was staying with Tony. I was in between leases, and we were going to get a new place as soon as his lease ended. So I was staying with him until his lease ended and we moved out. So I was there for the entire time that Casey was staying there full-time.

GRACE: Now, I`m talking about the time after Father`s Day weekend, around June 16 -- that`s a Monday -- and on.

NATE: Yes, ma`am, I was there.

GRACE: OK. What was Casey`s -- mom, Casey Anthony`s, demeanor?

NATE: I mean, she seemed like everything was normal. There was nothing that drew any red flags, certainly not on our end. I mean, no reason for us to be suspicious of anything. I mean, she went about her business every day. Some days -- you know, we`re in class 40 hours a week, Tony and I. We both go to a school that demands that we`re in class 40 hours a week, so we`re constantly in and out of the apartment.

But you know, when she was there, nothing seemed out of the ordinary. She always seemed like she had a smile on her face. You know, if there was laundry to be done, she would take care of that. You know, she would cook dinner sometimes in the evenings and...

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So while her daughter was missing, she was cooking up dinners for her new boyfriend?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Like what?

NATE: I mean, just normal dinners, you know? She would make, you know -- for instance, I think one night she made pasta for everyone. Just you know...

GRACE: Did she ever mention over the pasta dinner that her 2-year-old girl was gone?

NATE: No, ma`am. She did not mention to us that Caylee was missing. We were under the impression that -- that Caylee was -- that she was with the nanny. When she would ask us certain questions, you know -- or we would ask her about it, then we would just move on because it seemed normal to us, she was with the nanny, she wasn`t at our place, so...

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Angry protesters nearly around the clock outside the Anthony home. That was a shot of one of them.

Everybody, with us tonight, a very special guest, Tony Lazarro`s roommate. He lived there with mom, Casey, after the time little Caylee went missing. Nate, thank you for being with us. You stated that she never once mentioned little Caylee was missing?

NATE: No, ma`am. She didn`t. There was a point where -- you know, we had asked her a couple of times, Hey, you know, how come we haven`t seen Caylee in a while, because when Tony and her first started dating, Caylee would come over to the house a few times, they would go down to the pool, or you know, whatever, Tony`s taking them out to dinner and stuff.

And so after a point, we -- she just hadn`t been coming around, and we even asked her, Hey, you know, how come you haven`t brought Caylee by lately? And it was always, Oh, she`s with the nanny, they`re at either the beach or they`re over at Disney World or they`re at Universal. And you know, to us, it is summertime. We were under the impression that Casey was working. So I mean, during the summer, children are, you know, off doing things, so (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: How often -- how often was Casey Anthony there at the apartment, every day?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Every night?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: She spent the night there?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: With Tony Lazarro?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: And during that time period, little Caylee was not spending the night with her?

NATE: No, ma`am.

GRACE: Where would she say Caylee was?

NATE: She said that Caylee was at the nanny`s. But when she started staying with us full-time, she had said that, you know, there were some problems at home, she didn`t want Caylee being subjected to it.

GRACE: What problems?

NATE: I`m not exactly sure on the specifics. I`m not sure if it was problems between her parents or if she was having problems with her parents. I`m not exactly sure as to the nature of the problems -- but that she did not want Caylee to be subjected to the environment. So she brought Caylee -- she told us that she brought Caylee to the nanny`s and that she was going to stay with us in the evenings, which -- I mean, we`re an apartment that`s on a 24-hour schedule. There`s constantly people in and out.

So to us, it did not seem like a good idea to have Caylee at our apartment full-time, so we thought she was doing the good motherly thing. You know, she didn`t want to impose herself on the nanny also, so Caylee would stay there in the evenings, and she would stay with us in the evenings.

GRACE: And nobody thought it was weird that the little baby would stay, would spend the night at the nanny`s instead of with her mother?

NATE: Not really. I mean, a 22-year-old single mother -- I`m not sure as to the habits of what a 22-year-old...

GRACE: OK.

NATE: ... single mother does every day. So we weren`t, you know, thinking along those lines as, Well, why isn`t she with her child every evening?

GRACE: Did she seem to have a job?

NATE: She did. Like, you know, we`re gone in class quite often...

GRACE: Yes.

NATE: ... so we don`t know if she was going actually to work. But she would, you know, bring home groceries from time to time. She didn`t seem like she was ever in need of money or anything like that. So it seemed to us like she had had a job.

When we would ask her about it, you know, if she was sitting home in the afternoon or something, she would, you know, say, Well, I`m working from my laptop today here at the house. And you know, she -- she told us she was an event coordinator. So those type of things -- it`s one of those things that you would think that someone could do with a laptop and a cell phone. They wouldn`t necessarily have to be in an office every time.

GRACE: Did she tell you guys that she was considering going back to college?

NATE: Yes, she had told us that.

GRACE: Where?

NATE: She had said that she had already attended Valencia for some time and that she was thinking about continuing her education at UCF.

GRACE: So she did say she planned to go to UCF.

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Are you aware that police are now searching heavily wooded areas there at University of Central Florida for little Caylee?

NATE: No, ma`am, I was not until just a few moments ago.

GRACE: You know, Nate, were you there the evening or the day -- I`m not sure of the timeline -- when grandmother, Cindy Anthony, shows up at Tony Lazarro`s apartment to find her daughter, Casey Anthony?

NATE: Yes, ma`am, I was there.

GRACE: What happened?

NATE: It was approximately late, late afternoon, early evening. Tony and I and Casey were all sitting on the couch. Tony and I were playing video games, waiting for the all-star game to come on for the evening. And there was a knock at the door.

GRACE: Well, hold on. Wait. Casey Anthony was sitting on the sofa, watching video games and waiting for the all-star game to come on?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: While her daughter is missing. OK. I was just getting the mental image. Go ahead.

NATE: And there was a knock at the door. Casey got up to answer the door. It was Amy (ph). I had never met Amy. I don`t...

GRACE: Amy Huizinga (ph)?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Now, Amy Huizinga is allegedly the woman who loaned Casey Anthony her car and Casey Anthony allegedly took all her checks and wrote them to Target, to all over the place?

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: OK. Go ahead.

NATE: So...

GRACE: So Cindy Anthony, Amy Huizinga show up at the door. What happens?

NATE: Well, just Amy showed up at first. All we saw was Amy.

GRACE: OK.

NATE: Amy told Casey that she needed to speak with her, so Casey and Amy stepped outside...

GRACE: Did Casey Anthony look like she was upset?

NATE: Not right at that moment. But they walked outside to discuss something. I do not -- I cannot attest to what was actually discussed outside. They came back in the house, Amy and Casey, followed by -- who we did not know at the time, that that was Casey`s mother, but now we know. They were followed by Cindy Anthony back in. Cindy asked Casey...

GRACE: OK, let me get something straight. When Huizinga shows up at the door, she asked Anthony to come outside?

NATE: Yes, and talk to her.

GRACE: OK. Could you hear them or their raised voices?

NATE: No, ma`am. I -- we could not hear anything from that conversation.

GRACE: OK. So then they come back in, and with them is grandmother, Cindy Anthony.

NATE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: OK, then what happened?

NATE: Cindy asked Casey to get her stuff and to leave with her. And Casey, you know, said that she did not want to leave but she would go outside and talk to her. The three of them then exited the apartment, and that was the last time that we, either me or Tony, have seen Casey.

GRACE: Did you hear Cindy Anthony ask, Where`s Caylee?

NATE: No, she did not ask that question while she was at our apartment, no, ma`am.

GRACE: Did she seem upset?

NATE: She did seem a little upset.

GRACE: Cindy Anthony or Casey Anthony?

NATE: Cindy seemed a little upset.

GRACE: So did Casey Anthony say why she didn`t want to leave?

NATE: No, she just said -- her mother said, Get your things and let`s go, and Casey replied, I`m not leaving. If you want to talk, let`s go outside and talk.

GRACE: So during this time, did she ever ask you or her boyfriend, Tony Lazarro, to help find little Caylee?

NATE: No, ma`am.

GRACE: We are taking your calls. Out to Suzie in Arizona. Hi, Suzie.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. I want to thank you for everything that you do for victims.

GRACE: Thank you.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

[SongBird]

not sure if this has been talked about...ignore if it has..

"He said they're building a Web site for Casey Anthony’s defense fund and assembling a team of defense experts."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

[Madhatter]

Mark NeJame speaks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

[LiveLaughLuv]

not sure if this has been talked about...ignore if it has..

"He said they're building a Web site for Casey Anthony’s defense fund and assembling a team of defense experts."

http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html

I was just going to post something similar.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2078694/posts

[Trailblazer]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17435955/detail.html

NeJame Defends Casey's Parents On TV
Attorney Compares Case To JonBenet Ramsey

Orlando attorney Mark NeJame will turn to national television on Wednesday to discuss the search for Caylee Anthony.

NeJame will appear on NBC's "Today" show at 10 a.m., but he spoke with WESH 2 News first.

NeJame said George and Cindy Anthony aren't persons of interest, they're victims. He compared the Anthony case to that of JonBenet Ramsey.

"Everybody had vilified her mother, accused her, law enforcement and the media and the public, and then many years later, the poor lady dies of cancer, and a month after her passing, she's exonerated that she had nothing to do with the death of her daughter," NeJame said.

NeJame said his role is to solely represent George and Cindy Anthony and put the sanity back in what has become an insane situation.

He added that there are only a few things he can comment on.

"We spoke with law enforcement, and law enforcement has specifically asked us not to comment about any communications or anything else, but clearly, law enforcement has answered that. Cindy and George are not suspects, they're not people of interest, they are victims," NeJame said.

As far as George Anthony facing battery charges for shoving two protesters, NeJame said he doesn't believe charges will be filed.

"He thought they were on his property. They may have been, and if they weren't, it was a confusing line. There is clearly no intent," NeJame said.

The high-profile case is attracting big bucks from companies hoping to crack Casey Anthony's silence and buy her story.

Todd Black, a representative for Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez, said they've received offers of more than $1 million for interviews, book deals, TV movies and motion pictures, including pay-per-view.

Black said they're only listening to the options, but money for the potentially expensive defense has to come from somewhere.

"$50,000 to $350,000, we've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay-per-view, and those offers can exceed $1 million," Black said. "We've made it clear to everyone that their inquiry will be put into a file, and we don't know whether that file will ever have to be opened."

Black also said they're developing a Web site for Casey Anthony's defense fund.

[Audie]

Catherine Sanchez, employee at Amscot, noticed Casey's car in the parking lot at 0700 hrs. Nate stated tonight that TonE did not pick Casey up till 11:00am. What could she have been doing during that 4 hour period. Audie- did you say there was a Sam's or Walmart by the Amscot?Yes, there is a Sam's Club next to Amscot.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Mark NeJame speaks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story


TY, MH...

From the link:


What is your purpose in this case?

We believe and so many people believe that [George and Cindy Anthony] have been mischaracterized and misrepresented. They have been vilified in the media. It's important to get the attention off of them so we can refocus on finding Caylee.

Why does it seem the public has turned on the Anthonys?

I think a lot of it is the way it plays out in America's media. I think [George and Cindy Anthony] are very ill-equipped to handle the onslaught of attacks and the pressure. . . . These are people whose world 90 days or so ago imploded on them. Their daughter is looking at the possibility of tremendous prison time, and more importantly their beloved granddaughter is just gone. So one day the reality hits you and you are not equipped to deal with that under the best of circumstances, and but then to be under the media glare. . . . Every move you make is watched. Who knows how to handle that?

Why haven't they accepted that Caylee might be dead?

We don't criticize families of POWs or MIAs who 40 years after Vietnam are still holding on to hope and searching for their loved ones in the jungles of Vietnam despite overwhelming evidence that would suggest they are no longer with us. What do we do? We love these people. We sympathize with them.

Don't forget George and Cindy Anthony are also victims. They have lost their granddaughter. . . . Why are they not allowed to hold on to hope that their beloved granddaughter Caylee still might be with us? And other people say they are in denial. So what? Whose business is it? . . . They are going through what they need to go through. And if Caylee is still with us, then they are the ones who kept hope alive. . . . I think we have gotten consumed with making them media personalities rather than understanding that these are just grandparents.

Can you address rumors of any book or TV/movie deal with George and Cindy Anthony?

I have never had one conversation with Cindy or George about that. They have not received one penny from one person.

What do George and Cindy talk about with Casey?

I won't get into that. That is not my role. I do know they have spoken to investigators. And the investigators have strongly recommended that they not get into that.

I think they need to stop acting like accomplices and act like victims. STOP making excuses for the one person who put them in that position. People will then have more sympathy for them.

[annalyzer]

Thanks LLL. So were they just thinking that or did they actually say that to Casey?

"So to us, it did not seem like a good idea to have Caylee at our apartment full-time, "

[Trailblazer]

Mark NeJame speaks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,3898987.story

From that link

Orlando-based missing-children's organization Never Lose Hope Foundation hired NeJame to help the couple.

[KittyMom]

Sry if this is a duplicate...

http://www.wftv.com/video/17432761/index.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

Psychic Investigating Caylee Disappearance Now Under Investigation

[LiveLaughLuv]

Thanks LLL. So were they just thinking that or did they actually say that to Casey?

"So to us, it did not seem like a good idea to have Caylee at our apartment full-time, "

I don't like to assume but I'd assume they did, that is when she started staying there w/o Caylee. They thought she spent the nights with the nanny.

[Audie]

Some Walmarts (24 hr) have a restaurant area (McDonald's, etc) in the store. She might have waiting there until she was able to call Tony. Walmart Super Stores have grocery sections.Not saying that she didn't go to Walmart, just that i don't believe there is a WalMart there by Amscot and Sam's.

[Madhatter]

Hope this works! I never tried to post more than one link at a time but here goes:

Nancy Grace, 9/9/08 Interview with Tony Lazzaro's roomate "Nate"

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmoAnJCsbv4
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1nEenfMI8
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ob4Nh9bfnE
Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eBT-dz7gWY
Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLkIXmA1RA
Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-FJVcV-FTQ
Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLjdKs6Msa0
Part 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdzzgsiUCnE

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"Talk to the law enforcement," Nejame said. "(Cindy Anthony) is not a suspect and not a person of interest. They've made that clear. They've obviously done their investigation and she has obviously spoken to them and why is everybody presuming they know more than law enforcement?"

"Does Cindy Anthony still believe that her daughter had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance?" Rowe said.

"She absolutely believes that she is still with us," Nejame said.

"Despite all of the alleged evidence found in the car that investigators have put out there, she truly believes that all of that does not exist and that there is some other explanation for DNA, for samples in the air and that there was a decomposing body in the car?"

"First of all, I'm not going to get into the case because that is not my role and that is not my goal," Nejame said. "The fact of the matter is that she believes for whatever reasons that Caylee is still with us. Other people do as well. She is not alone. In fact, when you think about it, there are still leads coming in. We've gotten two in the last several days. So, she is holding on to a grandmother's hope."

Nejame said if it comes to Casey Anthony against her family, he is on the grandparents' side.

"I've never met (Casey's attorney) Jose Baez and never met Casey," Nejame said. "I don't have any desire to meet them concerning this case. I represent George and Cindy Anthony. I have no involvement in their daughter's case and I don't want any involvement in their daughter's case. My sole and exclusive role and goal is to represent George and Cindy Anthony in their quest to find their granddaughter Caylee."

"They've hired you," Rowe said. "To the average person out there, they then start to wonder, is it really denial or is there something that the Anthony family is not sharing with investigators?"

"Absolutely not," Nejame said. "Very simply, they needed assistance and they came to realize that. They are buckling. The fact of the matter is that the stress would destroy anybody. One day their family just imploded on them. Their daughter is accused of some of the most reprehensible acts we can imagine as human beings and who is facing tremendous time in jail as a possibility and most importantly, their beloved granddaughter is just gone. Imagine living with those burdens. And for some reason, we've completely lost sight of that."

"And you truly believe that they've done everything that they can, that George and Cindy, have done everything that they can to get information from their daughter, Casey?"

"I'm not going to get in between any conversations between George, Cindy and Casey," Nejame said. "It would be inappropriate and law enforcement has asked us not to get into that. So, the last thing I would want to do and I think anybody in the media would want to do would be to compromise any investigation."

"I can appreciate that, but you can understand why people are so angry at them?" Rowe said.

"No, I don't," Nejame said.

"You don't understand why mothers and fathers -- especially mothers and fathers of other missing children are out there saying, 'Why can't you get your daughter to tell you what happened?'" Rowe said.

"It is this simple; doesn't anybody know what goes on behind closed doors and the answer is clearly no," Nejame said. "So, the last thing we would want to do, if the public is really concerned about Caylee, is let the system work. Stop judging and stop injecting things that people have no clue about. They have none. If you think about it, all this investigation started because of Cindy making a phone call."

"How is she and how is George?" Rowe asked.

"Some people with not such good motives have sucked the life energy out of them, compounded with the fact that their daughter has been accused of some horrendous things and facing tremendous prison time. Then, most important -- without doubt -- that Caylee is not here. I've yet to see them without them crying."

Nejame said he is already defending George Anthony for allegedly assaulting a protester. He said he does not believe that official charges will be filed.

Also, Nejame said he has talked with the Sheriff's Department about hiring off-duty deputies because of the crowds of protesters.
http://www.local6.com/news/17435349/detail.html

[Audie]

Did anyone see, they still have a search team it is Joe JOrdan, an they have been searching since TES left, so people haven't given up Thank God
THis is information on it if anyone wants to help.
He does belong toTES.

Joseph S. Jordan
Board Member of S.A.V.E. Kaylee
www.momsforjustice.org (http://www.momsforjustice.org/)
Member of Texas Equusearch
www.texasequusearch.org (http://www.texasequusearch.org/)
joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com
He gives updates of his searches..

On that Lady on picking up the trash..WAY to Go. I bet there are clues in there what is going on in that house. Now I am sure they will shred or Geo will drive it to a Dumpster..maybe someone will follow him to see what dumpster...ha.ha.:francis:She will be writing a blog..that is great
I don't believe he was a TES member before the Caylee search. jmo

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I don't believe he was a TES member before the Caylee search. jmo

He wasn't a member of TES until later...He was searching on his own...

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and to think I could have predicted that!!!

I did an interview with Andrea Conklin when she was working in Texas a few years back.


Yes, I read about that on BP's website, now you must register to read there.

Oops, just rechecked, it is now open again.

[StoneFox]

"Talk to the law enforcement," Nejame said. "(Cindy Anthony) is not a suspect and not a person of interest. They've made that clear. They've obviously done their investigation and she has obviously spoken to them and why is everybody presuming they know more than law enforcement?"

"Does Cindy Anthony still believe that her daughter had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance?" Rowe said.

"She absolutely believes that she is still with us," Nejame said.

"Despite all of the alleged evidence found in the car that investigators have put out there, she truly believes that all of that does not exist and that there is some other explanation for DNA, for samples in the air and that there was a decomposing body in the car?"

"First of all, I'm not going to get into the case because that is not my role and that is not my goal," Nejame said. "The fact of the matter is that she believes for whatever reasons that Caylee is still with us. Other people do as well. She is not alone. In fact, when you think about it, there are still leads coming in. We've gotten two in the last several days. So, she is holding on to a grandmother's hope."

Nejame said if it comes to Casey Anthony against her family, he is on the grandparents' side.

"I've never met (Casey's attorney) Jose Baez and never met Casey," Nejame said. "I don't have any desire to meet them concerning this case. I represent George and Cindy Anthony. I have no involvement in their daughter's case and I don't want any involvement in their daughter's case. My sole and exclusive role and goal is to represent George and Cindy Anthony in their quest to find their granddaughter Caylee."

"They've hired you," Rowe said. "To the average person out there, they then start to wonder, is it really denial or is there something that the Anthony family is not sharing with investigators?"

"Absolutely not," Nejame said. "Very simply, they needed assistance and they came to realize that. They are buckling. The fact of the matter is that the stress would destroy anybody. One day their family just imploded on them. Their daughter is accused of some of the most reprehensible acts we can imagine as human beings and who is facing tremendous time in jail as a possibility and most importantly, their beloved granddaughter is just gone. Imagine living with those burdens. And for some reason, we've completely lost sight of that."

"And you truly believe that they've done everything that they can, that George and Cindy, have done everything that they can to get information from their daughter, Casey?"

"I'm not going to get in between any conversations between George, Cindy and Casey," Nejame said. "It would be inappropriate and law enforcement has asked us not to get into that. So, the last thing I would want to do and I think anybody in the media would want to do would be to compromise any investigation."

"I can appreciate that, but you can understand why people are so angry at them?" Rowe said.

"No, I don't," Nejame said.

"You don't understand why mothers and fathers -- especially mothers and fathers of other missing children are out there saying, 'Why can't you get your daughter to tell you what happened?'" Rowe said.

"It is this simple; doesn't anybody know what goes on behind closed doors and the answer is clearly no," Nejame said. "So, the last thing we would want to do, if the public is really concerned about Caylee, is let the system work. Stop judging and stop injecting things that people have no clue about. They have none. If you think about it, all this investigation started because of Cindy making a phone call."

"How is she and how is George?" Rowe asked.

"Some people with not such good motives have sucked the life energy out of them, compounded with the fact that their daughter has been accused of some horrendous things and facing tremendous prison time. Then, most important -- without doubt -- that Caylee is not here. I've yet to see them without them crying."

Nejame said he is already defending George Anthony for allegedly assaulting a protester. He said he does not believe that official charges will be filed.

Also, Nejame said he has talked with the Sheriff's Department about hiring off-duty deputies because of the crowds of protesters.
http://www.local6.com/news/17435349/detail.html

I don't see how Nejame seperates G&C from Casey and her possible involvement with Caylee missing. The Anthonys won't seperate themselves, so how does Nejame.

Some people have sucked the life energy out of them...HELLO!!! I think that person's name is Casey Anthony. :smack:

I wish these people would place blame where blame is most deserved...with Casey.

I predict Nejame is fighting a losing battle.

JMO

[LiveLaughLuv]

NATE: Caylee is a very sweet girl, very smart girl. You know, Dora Explorer is her favorite TV show. So, I mean, she can count to 45 in Spanish, which, you know, Casey told us that she`s learned from watching Dora the Explorer.

She loved to watch "The Pink Panther," I mean we would -- the few times that she was over, we would sit there in the living room from time to time and watch "The Pink Panther" or "Dora the Explorer."

She would sit down -- I`ve sat down with her, you know, at my laptop before and she can -- you know if you asked her to type some letters out she can find those letters from the keyboard and type them out, which to me is -- I mean, a really smart girl for, you know, a 2-and-a-half-year-old, a 3-year-old, and, you know, she was cool.

Her favorite phrase that she would say to everyone walking in, be "What up, dude?" That was the phrase she always uses. It`s "what up, dude?" Anytime anyone would come in the door, "what up, dude?"

And I distinctly remember one time where Cameron and I -- another friend of ours -- we had fallen asleep in the living room for an afternoon nap and she had gotten Tony`s drum pad that he`d given her and a set of drum sticks, and she sat there in the living room, tapping on the drum pad, just kind of chanting, "wake up, Nate, wake up, Cam," I mean just an adorable child.

GRACE: When you learned she was missing, what was your first thought?

NATE: My first thought was, how can she be missing? She is supposed to be with the nanny? I mean, we never -- I mean thought that she was -- when they said, missing, missing as in missing now.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

:cray:

[Madhatter]

Interesting that Nancy Grace said that bones were found along with some clothing. I don't know if she meant bones and clothing as opposed to bones with clothing.

If it's the latter, it does seem strange. I know I put clothing (sweaters and such) on my puppy, but do animals ususally wear clothing? They didn't say whether it was children's clothing they found either!

So frustrating!

[mrsmcgoo]

I have to apologize because I asked a question on the other thread, but had computer problems and couldn't read the replies or answer. Seems to be working fine today. My question was about the bond and why it wasn't revoked because of the gun and because of the contact with the 12 year old girl.

Thank you for replies all, I did read back this morning and checked the link that was provided by AmyE. The link seemed to be a standard guideline for such cases. But I remember reading and I did link it here last week were the judge berates Casey for not cooperating and states she is to have no contact with anyone under the age of 17. Thus I feel she has violated this order that was made in a courtroom.

Also, George being a police officer, would be aware of the rules governing bonds and firearms. He should have come forward and said, wait I have a gun in the house, but I will surrender it before Casey is released. To me, it is not a good thing he did not. Not sure if he was protecting himself, or what was going on, but I hope that the gun is being tested by forensics.

jmo

[KittyMom]

NATE: Caylee is a very sweet girl, very smart girl. You know, Dora Explorer is her favorite TV show. So, I mean, she can count to 45 in Spanish, which, you know, Casey told us that she`s learned from watching Dora the Explorer.

She loved to watch "The Pink Panther," I mean we would -- the few times that she was over, we would sit there in the living room from time to time and watch "The Pink Panther" or "Dora the Explorer."

She would sit down -- I`ve sat down with her, you know, at my laptop before and she can -- you know if you asked her to type some letters out she can find those letters from the keyboard and type them out, which to me is -- I mean, a really smart girl for, you know, a 2-and-a-half-year-old, a 3-year-old, and, you know, she was cool.

Her favorite phrase that she would say to everyone walking in, be "What up, dude?" That was the phrase she always uses. It`s "what up, dude?" Anytime anyone would come in the door, "what up, dude?"

And I distinctly remember one time where Cameron and I -- another friend of ours -- we had fallen asleep in the living room for an afternoon nap and she had gotten Tony`s drum pad that he`d given her and a set of drum sticks, and she sat there in the living room, tapping on the drum pad, just kind of chanting, "wake up, Nate, wake up, Cam," I mean just an adorable child.

GRACE: When you learned she was missing, what was your first thought?

NATE: My first thought was, how can she be missing? She is supposed to be with the nanny? I mean, we never -- I mean thought that she was -- when they said, missing, missing as in missing now.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

:cray:

These are the stories we should be hearing from her family. Instead, we find out about Caylee's little personality from relative strangers to her. Terribly sad and telling, imo. :frown:

[protectkidz]

Thank you, LLL, for posting that.

That is completely heartbreaking.

This boy, Nate, really is able to show the heart of Caylee.

We haven't seen her described so well by anyone else.

[Audie]

He wasn't a member of TES until later...He was searching on his own...Yea, I'm thinking he signed up just before or while TES was there. A lot of people do that. I remember when I was in his car and told him that it was me that emailed him, he said "that was you?" or something of that nature and then said he had never heard of TES before that. I like Joe. At least I haven't heard anything bad. I think he did a great job and is continuing to do so. jmo

[protectkidz]

Yea, I'm thinking he signed up just before or while TES was there. A lot of people do that. I remember when I was in his car and told him that it was me that emailed him, he said "that was you?" or something of that nature and then said he had never heard of TES before that. I like Joe. At least I haven't heard anything bad. I think he did a great job and is continuing to do so. jmo

he was posting at Scared Monkeys a couple of weeks ago.

I thought he was actually the first to go out and start searching, and he did this before TES arrived.

Didn't he find some stuff? And he's a young man, isn't he?

I love it when young people invest themselves like he has - makes me feel good about the future.

[Audie]

NATE: Caylee is a very sweet girl, very smart girl. You know, Dora Explorer is her favorite TV show. So, I mean, she can count to 45 in Spanish, which, you know, Casey told us that she`s learned from watching Dora the Explorer.

She loved to watch "The Pink Panther," I mean we would -- the few times that she was over, we would sit there in the living room from time to time and watch "The Pink Panther" or "Dora the Explorer."

She would sit down -- I`ve sat down with her, you know, at my laptop before and she can -- you know if you asked her to type some letters out she can find those letters from the keyboard and type them out, which to me is -- I mean, a really smart girl for, you know, a 2-and-a-half-year-old, a 3-year-old, and, you know, she was cool.

Her favorite phrase that she would say to everyone walking in, be "What up, dude?" That was the phrase she always uses. It`s "what up, dude?" Anytime anyone would come in the door, "what up, dude?"

And I distinctly remember one time where Cameron and I -- another friend of ours -- we had fallen asleep in the living room for an afternoon nap and she had gotten Tony`s drum pad that he`d given her and a set of drum sticks, and she sat there in the living room, tapping on the drum pad, just kind of chanting, "wake up, Nate, wake up, Cam," I mean just an adorable child.

GRACE: When you learned she was missing, what was your first thought?

NATE: My first thought was, how can she be missing? She is supposed to be with the nanny? I mean, we never -- I mean thought that she was -- when they said, missing, missing as in missing now.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ng.01.html

:cray:Does that get to anyone besides me? :cray:

[Breezy]

Good morning all.

They are also in the process of setting up a website for Casey's defense. If she accecpts those proposals it will go to her defense fund. I think her myspace showed "worried" for a good reason. They are now looking in an area near UCF (University of Central Florida). Out of all those pings, this is the one place that was not a place she regularly freqented. It is out of her regular movements.

Taking contributions for her defense instead of to find Caylee is infuriating.

Did they release the info on where the pings came from?

I only knew about the ones near the airport.

[protectkidz]

Does that get to anyone besides me? :cray:

yes.

He brought her to life for us, Audie.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Did they release the info on where the pings came from?

I only knew about the ones near the airport.

Yes, they did show a map, out of all the usual places Casey would frequent, this is the only one that is out of the ordinary. Right dab in the middle.

I don't know if Faith or A2L can get a map up of it. I'll see if I can find one on the net.

[StoneFox]

Did anybody see the Nejame interview on the Today Show?

I'm trying to catch up.

[Madhatter]

After reading the 400 pages of documentation, does anyone else think that statements from Cindy are missing/absent? I remember seeing a brief handwritten statement from Lee, but what about Cindy?

Also, where is Mark Furhman? I'd like to hear more about the tickets that Casey purchased for PR, TX, etc.

[Trailblazer]

http://www.local6.com/news/17435349/detail.html

Attorney Defends Anthony Family To Nation; Doesn't Understand Why People Angry
'I've Yet To See Them Without Them Crying," Nejame Says

ORLANDO, Fla. -- One of Orlando's most powerful attorneys launched a national push Wednesday hoping to bring the focus of the case of missing Caylee Anthony back to the search for the girl.

Attorney Mark Nejame now represents George and Cindy Anthony, the parents of Casey Anthony.

Before Nejame began a national PR push on many of the national talk shows, he sat down with Local 6's Lauren Rowe for a one-on-one interview.

Nejame was first asked about the 911 call Cindy Anthony initially made to police.

"I don't think anyone questioned Cindy Anthony that day and what she was saying and what she was feeling on that 911 call. But she said it on the call," Local 6's Lauren Rowe said. "She said it smells like there has been a dead body in the car, and she was right."

"And that is up to the investigators to address that," Nejame said. "God forbid, anybody else should walk in these shoes. Where is the training for this? Where is the lesson for this? There are none. There is no playbook of how you act when your daughter is accused of murdering your granddaughter. Let people be people. Don't judge and don't speculate. Just allow people to process and live and work through their own grief as they need to."

Nejame said people need to understand what the family is going through.

"Who is somebody else to tell another person how long they are supposed to grieve and how long they are supposed act? Who? Who are we to do that?" he said.

"I don't think anyone would disagree with that but you are not a therapist, you are a criminal defense attorney and part of your job is now speculate what could possibly come down the pike for George and Cindy Anthony," Rowe said. "After she found the car and thought it smelled like a dead body, she took clothing out of that car and washed that clothing. (There's) a lot of speculation, if something does happen, is it possible that Cindy Anthony could face criminal charges?"

"No," Nejame said.

"You are telling me that you don't think about that at all as now her defense attorney?" Rowe asked.

"Talk to the law enforcement," Nejame said. "(Cindy Anthony) is not a suspect and not a person of interest. They've made that clear. They've obviously done their investigation and she has obviously spoken to them and why is everybody presuming they know more than law enforcement?"

"Does Cindy Anthony still believe that her daughter had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance?" Rowe said.

"She absolutely believes that she is still with us," Nejame said.

"Despite all of the alleged evidence found in the car that investigators have put out there, she truly believes that all of that does not exist and that there is some other explanation for DNA, for samples in the air and that there was a decomposing body in the car?"

"First of all, I'm not going to get into the case because that is not my role and that is not my goal," Nejame said. "The fact of the matter is that she believes for whatever reasons that Caylee is still with us. Other people do as well. She is not alone. In fact, when you think about it, there are still leads coming in. We've gotten two in the last several days. So, she is holding on to a grandmother's hope."

Nejame said if it comes to Casey Anthony against her family, he is on the grandparents' side.

"I've never met (Casey's attorney) Jose Baez and never met Casey," Nejame said. "I don't have any desire to meet them concerning this case. I represent George and Cindy Anthony. I have no involvement in their daughter's case and I don't want any involvement in their daughter's case. My sole and exclusive role and goal is to represent George and Cindy Anthony in their quest to find their granddaughter Caylee."

"They've hired you," Rowe said. "To the average person out there, they then start to wonder, is it really denial or is there something that the Anthony family is not sharing with investigators?"

"Absolutely not," Nejame said. "Very simply, they needed assistance and they came to realize that. They are buckling. The fact of the matter is that the stress would destroy anybody. One day their family just imploded on them. Their daughter is accused of some of the most reprehensible acts we can imagine as human beings and who is facing tremendous time in jail as a possibility and most importantly, their beloved granddaughter is just gone. Imagine living with those burdens. And for some reason, we've completely lost sight of that."

"And you truly believe that they've done everything that they can, that George and Cindy, have done everything that they can to get information from their daughter, Casey?"

"I'm not going to get in between any conversations between George, Cindy and Casey," Nejame said. "It would be inappropriate and law enforcement has asked us not to get into that. So, the last thing I would want to do and I think anybody in the media would want to do would be to compromise any investigation."

"I can appreciate that, but you can understand why people are so angry at them?" Rowe said.

"No, I don't," Nejame said.

"You don't understand why mothers and fathers -- especially mothers and fathers of other missing children are out there saying, 'Why can't you get your daughter to tell you what happened?'" Rowe said.

"It is this simple; doesn't anybody know what goes on behind closed doors and the answer is clearly no," Nejame said. "So, the last thing we would want to do, if the public is really concerned about Caylee, is let the system work. Stop judging and stop injecting things that people have no clue about. They have none. If you think about it, all this investigation started because of Cindy making a phone call."

"How is she and how is George?" Rowe asked.

"Some people with not such good motives have sucked the life energy out of them, compounded with the fact that their daughter has been accused of some horrendous things and facing tremendous prison time. Then, most important -- without doubt -- that Caylee is not here. I've yet to see them without them crying."

Nejame said he is already defending George Anthony for allegedly assaulting a protester. He said he does not believe that official charges will be filed.

Also, Nejame said he has talked with the Sheriff's Department about hiring off-duty deputies because of the crowds of protesters.

[StoneFox]

The Anthonys are asking for gift cards, etc. Do they claim those gift cards as donations to the trust fund? Are those gift cards made payble to the trust fund?

[Trailblazer]

"Does Cindy Anthony still believe that her daughter had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance?" Rowe said.

"She absolutely believes that she is still with us," Nejame said.

Notice how he avoids answering the question

[queenbee]

DID anyone else see this video
www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Woman-sifts-through-trash-probes-Caylee-Anthony-case-/1221050772.html

[Audie]

he was posting at Scared Monkeys a couple of weeks ago.

I thought he was actually the first to go out and start searching, and he did this before TES arrived.

Didn't he find some stuff? And he's a young man, isn't he?

I love it when young people invest themselves like he has - makes me feel good about the future.Yep, he was out there at the Blanchard park/Econ trail searching with some others. He showed me the spot where he found the clothes and stuff, the 2 dumpsters at Amscot, etc. Actually, by the time we got back, I was overloaded with info, lol.

I'm not good with ages, but my guess is that he is in his late 20s, early 30s. TES and other search groups need more people like him, imo.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Did they release the info on where the pings came from?

I only knew about the ones near the airport.


http://www.mapquest.com/maps?cat=university+of+central+florida#a/search/l::::::US::::/m::3:34.689484:-78.832445:0::/so:University+of+Central+Florida:::r::25:::::/e


the above link will show where UCF is located. maybe Faith or A2L can add that to the maps she already has. It's smack dab in the middle of all the other pings. Can't find the actual map, looking at the vids from NG, they did show them last night.

I'm looking through last nights videos of NG show. They did show them there last night.

[Micky_Spill]

Notice how he avoids answering the question
Thats why he is an attorney.

[protectkidz]

question about pings:

if you turn your cellphone OFF, and someone calls you - is there a ping?

[Micky_Spill]

question about pings:

if you turn your cellphone OFF, and someone calls you - is there a ping?


Yes, your phone stills gets pinged, criminals really do not think nowadays. Why go on a crime spree with your cell phone. Remember Littlejohn and Ivette St Guillen.

How many cases over the years have cell phone towers and pings played an important role?

Tons of cases it seems.

[LiveLaughLuv]

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/open-thread-for-the-nancy-grace-show-998/

I found the map they showed on NG. First video at the 4:41 mark.

[Isabella]

Not saying that she didn't go to Walmart, just that i don't believe there is a WalMart there by Amscot and Sam's.
It has been said I think the Amscot employee saw the car at 7am, now TonyE picked Casey up between 11am and 1pm, but do we know if this was all the same day?

In my State you have to have a Sam's Club membership card to even get in there, not sure if it is the same everywhere.

[Texas53]

question about pings:

if you turn your cellphone OFF, and someone calls you - is there a ping?

Only if your cell phone is digital. There are a very few left that are analog and those will not ping if turned off. I believe at the end of the year, all analog will be turned off and only digital cell phones can be used.

Yes, a few people still have and use their analog cell phones. No joke.

[Audie]

question about pings:

if you turn your cellphone OFF, and someone calls you - is there a ping?I don't know, PK. I heard diff things about that. I would love to know exactly, how it works.

[nicky]

Does that get to anyone besides me? :cray:

Morning everyone, and boy it does get to me, i'm sitting here at work trying not to cry.:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[LiveLaughLuv]

DID anyone else see this video
www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Woman-sifts-through-trash-probes-Caylee-Anthony-case-/1221050772.html

Yes, Queen, that is a neighbor Lorraine. Trying to find some clues. She found printouts of blogs and such, oh and lots of rigatoni.

[scout]

Yes, your phone stills gets pinged, criminals really do not think nowadays. Why go on a crime spree with your cell phone. Remember Littlejohn and Ivette St Guillen.

How many cases over the years have cell phone towers and pings played an important role?

Tons of cases it seems.

..if it doesn't have a sim card its not going to ping.. right?

[Texas53]

It has been said I think the Amscot employee saw the car at 7am, now TonyE picked Casey up between 11am and 1pm, but do we know if this was all the same day?

In my State you have to have a Sam's Club membership card to even get in there, not sure if it is the same everywhere.


Maybe she claimed she was having car trouble and most people are not going to let a woman wait in the car in the middle of the night. Or maybe her parents have a card that she "borrowed". JMHO

[Trailblazer]

It has been said I think the Amscot employee saw the car at 7am, now TonyE picked Casey up between 11am and 1pm, but do we know if this was all the same day?

In my State you have to have a Sam's Club membership card to even get in there, not sure if it is the same everywhere.


I think if the Amscot mgr. saw the car on the 27th at 7AM, my guess would be that Casey left it there the day before...

And YES, you need a membership card to get into Sam's everywhere

[Breezy]

Yes, they did show a map, out of all the usual places Casey would frequent, this is the only one that is out of the ordinary. Right dab in the middle.

I don't know if Faith or A2L can get a map up of it. I'll see if I can find one on the net.


Thanks LLL.

I may have seen it and just don't remember.
It seems theres something new almost everyday or every other day in this case.
I missed Nancy Grace last night and I am trying to catch up on my reading this morning to find out about this Nate guy.
What next??

I read that LE had copies of the reciepts from Target....I'd really like to see what she purchased. I'm sure it was all items for herself (clothes, etc) but it would be interesting to see.

[LiveLaughLuv]

It has been said I think the Amscot employee saw the car at 7am, now TonyE picked Casey up between 11am and 1pm, but do we know if this was all the same day?

In my State you have to have a Sam's Club membership card to even get in there, not sure if it is the same everywhere.



Posted on September 9, 2008 by yourturntohelp
Transcribed from released discovery

The following is a synopsis of the interview:

Mrs. Sanchez is the branch manager 7051 East Colonial Drive (Amscot Financial). On June 27, 2008, at approximately 0700 hours, Mrs. Sanchez arrived at 7051 East Colonial Drive for her shift. Mrs. Sanchez observed a white Pontiac parked next to the business’ dumpster, but took no action.

On June 28, 2008, at approximately 0700 hours, Mrs. Sanchez arrived at 7051 East Colonial Drive (Amscot Financial) to begin her shift. Mrs. Sanchez observed the white car still parked next to the dumpster. Mrs. Sancez notified the Amscot corporate office of the white car still parked net to the dumpster. Mrs. Sanchez notified the Amscot corporate office of the white pontiac’s presence. The Amscot corporate Office instructed Mrs. Sanchez to call law enforcement to ensure the white Pontiac was not stolen, and if the what Pontiac was not stolen wait one additional day and have the white Pontiac towed away. Mrs. Sancez called the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and gave the white Pontiac’s license plate to the operator. Mrs. Sanchez was advised the white Pontiac was not stolen.

On June 30, 2008, at approximately 0700 hours, Mrs. Sancez arrived at 7051 East Colonial Drive (Amscot Financial). Mrs. Sanchez observed the white Pontiac still parked next to the dumpster. Mrs. Sanchez called Johnson’s Wrecker and requested the white Pontiac be towed away. A short time after Mrs. Sancez’s call, a tow truck driver arrived. Mrs. Sanchez pointed out the white Pontiac to the driver, singed a form, and the driver towed the white Pontiac away. I showed Mrs. Sanchez the Jonson’s Wrecker private property tow form, and she verified the signature on the form belongs to her. Mrs. Sanchez swore the information she provided was true. A copy of the recorded interview was submitted into evidence and a copy was turned over to Corporal Melich.

Mrs. Sanchez pointed out where the white car was parked. The following is a description of the area: 7501 East Colonial Drive is in a small business plaza which sits on the northeast corner of East Colonial Drive and Goldenrod Road. 7501 East Colonial Drive’s lobby faces west towards Golden Road. 7051 East Colonial Drive has entry doors on the west and south sides. 7051 East Colonial Drive’s dumpster is fenced in and on the northwest portion of the western parking lot. There are two white striped parking spaces to the west of the dumpster. Mrs. Sanchez pointed out the parking space closest to the dumpster. This parking space is to immediate western side of the dumpster.
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/police-interview-with-catherine-sanchez-amscot-financial-employee/

[Audie]

It has been said I think the Amscot employee saw the car at 7am, now TonyE picked Casey up between 11am and 1pm, but do we know if this was all the same day?

In my State you have to have a Sam's Club membership card to even get in there, not sure if it is the same everywhere.I thought it was the same day, but now that you mention it, I'm not sure.

In Colo and Tex you have to be a member, so i think it's that way everywhere. jmo

[Texas53]

..if it doesn't have a sim card its not going to ping.. right?

If that sim card has been put into another phone and that phone is on, it will ping. I have a friend whose son knows how to swap sim cards and program another number to match the sim card. He showed me ....its easy. He gets new phones for people and does it all the time. Now if the card is in another phone, LE may not know about that particular phone.

[PinkPony]

"Does Cindy Anthony still believe that her daughter had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance?" Rowe said.

"She absolutely believes that she is still with us," Nejame said.

Notice how he avoids answering the question


Good mornin' everyone:happy0207:

I did notice that and started to post the same thing but you beat me to it. LOL

PP

[Audie]

Only if your cell phone is digital. There are a very few left that are analog and those will not ping if turned off. I believe at the end of the year, all analog will be turned off and only digital cell phones can be used.

Yes, a few people still have and use their analog cell phones. No joke.Mine works in digital mode most of the time, but in certain areas I've seen it change to analog mode. It's almost 2 yrs old i think. No sim card.

[Trailblazer]

..if it doesn't have a sim card its not going to ping.. right?

I don't know...I don't think I have a sim card in mine..at least I looked and didn't see anything I can remove...but I assume that my phone would still ping???

[scout]

If that sim card has been put into another phone and that phone is on, it will ping. I have a friend whose son knows how to swap sim cards and program another number to match the sim card. He showed me ....its easy. He gets new phones for people and does it all the time. Now if the card is in another phone, LE may not know about that particular phone.

Casey had 2 phones and 1 sim card. She claims to have 'lost' the blackjack phone. Her other cell has the sim card in it. The lost blackjack will not ping if someone were to call it... correct?

[Texas53]

A good atty knows how to skirt around questions and answer vaguely. Apparently, this guy is a seasoned atty and knows how to play the game. JMHO

[Breezy]

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?cat=university+of+central+florida#a/search/l::::::US::::/m::3:34.689484:-78.832445:0::/so:University+of+Central+Florida:::r::25:::::/e


the above link will show where UCF is located. maybe Faith or A2L can add that to the maps she already has. It's smack dab in the middle of all the other pings. Can't find the actual map, looking at the vids from NG, they did show them last night.

I'm looking through last nights videos of NG show. They did show them there last night.

Thanks again, LLL.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Jute I think they know it's only a matter of time before Casey is charged...


Yes, the circle is closing around her. Only a matter of time.

[Texas53]

Mine works in digital mode most of the time, but in certain areas I've seen it change to analog mode. It's almost 2 yrs old i think.

Cell phones now days are completely digital even those that were purchased back 2 yrs ago. Are you referring to seeing on the phone "roaming"? This just means you have gone outside your area but your can still receive calls.

[Trailblazer]

Casey had 2 phones and 1 sim card. She claims to have 'lost' the blackjack phone. Her other cell has the sim card in it. The lost blackjack will not ping if someone were to call it... correct?

Do we know for sure she had 2 phones, or was that another lie? An excuse to why she didn't have Zenaida's phone number?

[Audie]

Thanks LLL.

I may have seen it and just don't remember.
It seems theres something new almost everyday or every other day in this case.
I missed Nancy Grace last night and I am trying to catch up on my reading this morning to find out about this Nate guy.
What next??

I read that LE had copies of the reciepts from Target....I'd really like to see what she purchased. I'm sure it was all items for herself (clothes, etc) but it would be interesting to see.I think we will continue see twist and turns everyday in this case. And I bet when the trial/s happen we will hear stuff that makes us go :thud2: . jmo

[StoneFox]

I give up...was Najame on the Today Show, or not?

[Texas53]

Casey had 2 phones and 1 sim card. She claims to have 'lost' the blackjack phone. Her other cell has the sim card in it. The lost blackjack will not ping if someone were to call it... correct?


If the blackjack phone has no sim card, it won't work. Now if she has voice mail on that number, someone can still call and leave her a message because the voicemail works in the Central Office.

[Trailblazer]

I think we will continue see twist and turns everyday in this case. And I bet when the trial/s happen we will hear stuff that makes us go :thud2: . jmo

I really hope they find Caylee...but I am really going to enjoy the trial..Love to read all the court docs.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE:1222423:

[Trailblazer]

I give up...was Najame on the Today Show, or not?

I didn't see the show, so don't know..but he's done a few interviews with local stations in Orlando that has been linked this morning..I'm assuming they are all going to be the same info he gives...

[LiveLaughLuv]

I thought it was the same day, but now that you mention it, I'm not sure.

In Colo and Tex you have to be a member, so i think it's that way everywhere. jmo

She noticed the car on June 27 and June 28th, then on June 30th she called the tow truck company to remove the car.

On the 28th she called LE to see if it was a stolen car. When she noticed the car still there on the 30th she had it towed.

[Isabella]

Thanks to everyone for answering :smile: seems weird to me in that where was Casey at before she called Tony. I mean had she spent the night there or somewhere else, did she leave in the AM pretending to go to work or what?

[nicky]

I really hope they find Caylee...but I am really going to enjoy the trial..Love to read all the court docs.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE:1222423:

If they show it on tv and she is sitting there smirking or smiling, I don't think I'll be able to watch it without throwing something at the tv. This case has already had so many twists and turns and insanity that it just leaves me wondering what the heck is next. And imo it's gonna get worse!

Bring Caylee Home!!!!:1222423:

[Trailblazer]

Thanks to everyone for answering :smile: seems weird to me in that where was Casey at before she called Tony. I mean had she spent the night there or somewhere else, did she leave in the AM pretending to go to work or what?

Yes she did sometimes pretend to go to work, and at other times, said that she could work at home...And remember it was LennyP who said she had a bag of groceries...I've never heard that comfirmed by Tony

[LiveLaughLuv]

I give up...was Najame on the Today Show, or not?


Not sure, Stone. He's supposed to be on NG tonight.

[Harmony]

Yes she did sometimes pretend to go to work, and at other times, said that she could work at home...And remember it was LennyP who said she had a bag of groceries...I've never heard that comfirmed by Tony

Bags or not- there is still a four hour gap or more. I am pulling my hair out I want to figure it out.

[Isabella]

If they show it on tv and she is sitting there smirking or smiling, I don't think I'll be able to watch it without throwing something at the tv. This case has already had so many twists and turns and insanity that it just leaves me wondering what the heck is next. And imo it's gonna get worse!

Bring Caylee Home!!!!:1222423:
ITA, same with me, not sure if I can stomach what will be said.
I remember Baez saying he was giving LE tips from things Casey told him...well I doubt that very much.

I want to know the Anthony's are searching for Caylee but feel certain they are not.

Different day, same old song, no sketch, no nothing for people to find Caylee. :frown:

[Faith]

Turn on the Today Show- up next they say

[LiveLaughLuv]

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/open-thread-for-the-nancy-grace-show-998/

I found the map they showed on NG. First video at the 4:41 mark.


Faith or A2L...can you take a screen shot of that map to show where the search is now focused, UCF.

TYVM

[protectkidz]

Do we know for sure she had 2 phones, or was that another lie? An excuse to why she didn't have Zenaida's phone number?

but, but, but....

if she switched the blackjack's sim card (the one that was supposed to have ZG's # on it) to another phone, then her contact list would be intact, yes?

That is, her phone contact list stays with the sim card, right?

[LiveLaughLuv]

Thanks LLL.

I may have seen it and just don't remember.
It seems theres something new almost everyday or every other day in this case.
I missed Nancy Grace last night and I am trying to catch up on my reading this morning to find out about this Nate guy.
What next??

I read that LE had copies of the reciepts from Target....I'd really like to see what she purchased. I'm sure it was all items for herself (clothes, etc) but it would be interesting to see.

Breezy, this is new from last night. They are now focusing their search in an area near UCF.

[Trailblazer]

Bags or not- there is still a four hour gap or more. I am pulling my hair out I want to figure it out.

Harmony as I said earlier, I believe she left the car there sometime on the 26th, the day before the mgr. noticed it...

[Faith]

Nejame on The Today Show Now

[Texas53]

but, but, but....

if she switched the blackjack's sim card (the one that was supposed to have ZG's # on it) to another phone, then her contact list would be intact, yes?

That is, her phone contact list stays with the sim card, right?


The contact list will stay in tact. It can also be pulled through Central Office records. If she puts the sim card in a phone and changes the number on the cell phone, she can lose all info as its programmed to the original number of the cell phone, as is the voice mail for that particular number the sim is for. If you have ever swapped out your cell phone for another, if you have noticed, all you info still works on the new cell phone. As long as the cell number stays the same.

[protectkidz]

Harmony as I said earlier, I believe she left the car there sometime on the 26th, the day before the mgr. noticed it...

I wonder if she did NOT spend the night of the 26th at Tony's house.

Or maybe she camped out in her car til it was light out, hoofed it over to Sam's Club and called him for a ride?

[mrsmcgoo]

Guys, I hate that time is passing so quickly and no sign of Caylee. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I have this sinkling feeling that if she isn't found SOON, our little angel will never be found, much like Trenton Duckett.

This case certainly is like a roller coaster, many ups and downs. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[Trailblazer]

but, but, but....

if she switched the blackjack's sim card (the one that was supposed to have ZG's # on it) to another phone, then her contact list would be intact, yes?

That is, her phone contact list stays with the sim card, right?

Right, but there is no Zenaida

[SongBird]

Harmony as I said earlier, I believe she left the car there sometime on the 26th, the day before the mgr. noticed it...

I thought I read that a video from the store was pointing at where she parked the car..any word on that video? or is it evidence at this time?

[LiveLaughLuv]

Yes she did sometimes pretend to go to work, and at other times, said that she could work at home...And remember it was LennyP who said she had a bag of groceries...I've never heard that comfirmed by Tony

Last night Nate did confirm that. When TonyL went to pick her up, he's not sure of the time, between 11am and 1pm, Casey had a bag of groceries with her.

[Faith]

He said do not confuse G/C with Casey. Do Not Judge Them

[nicky]

Bags or not- there is still a four hour gap or more. I am pulling my hair out I want to figure it out.

Wasn't she seeing the exLE at that time as well? Maybe she was with him. jmo

[Texas53]

I'm just hoping the majority of the people won't buy into this publicity baloney. I think most intelligent people won't. JMHO

[Faith]

Faith or A2L...can you take a screen shot of that map to show where the search is now focused, UCF.

TYVM

Which video is it in and at what timeframe?

[Trailblazer]

I thought I read that a video from the store was pointing at where she parked the car..any word on that video? or is it evidence at this time?

Haven't heard anything as to the video...I know they had a camera there...maybe LE has it..sure hope so

[KittyMom]

Bags or not- there is still a four hour gap or more. I am pulling my hair out I want to figure it out.

Didn't she have checks written to a winn-dixie? Maybe we could look on the map to see where the UCF, Winn-Dixie, and Amscot are in relation to each other. We know she'd not have spent much time in the grocery if she only had one bag.

I know its a long shot as we've no idea which days she was at the grocery or UCF.

[nicky]

but, but, but....

if she switched the blackjack's sim card (the one that was supposed to have ZG's # on it) to another phone, then her contact list would be intact, yes?

That is, her phone contact list stays with the sim card, right?

only if she saved it to the sim card, i made the mistake of not saving it to the card and lost a friend of mines number because it was stored in the phone and not on the card.

[LiveLaughLuv]

I thought I read that a video from the store was pointing at where she parked the car..any word on that video? or is it evidence at this time?


The problem with that SB, is those videos get taped over.

[StoneFox]

He said do not confuse G/C with Casey. Do Not Judge Them

Thank you Faith. It isn't on here yet I guess.

It's kind of hard not to confuse G/C with Casey when they are constantly enabling her lying, IMO.

[Trailblazer]

Last night Nate did confirm that. When TonyL went to pick her up, he's not sure of the time, between 11am and 1pm, Casey had a bag of groceries with her.

Thanks LLL...I guess I didn't hear that...

Well Sam's Club doesn't open until 9AM..and I know at my Sam's Club, they don't give you bags for your stuff...So I'm guessing the bag of groceries came from somewhere else and she had it in the car before she abandoned it.

[SongBird]

The problem with that SB, is those videos get taped over.


is that the status?

[Trailblazer]

Wasn't she seeing the exLE at that time as well? Maybe she was with him. jmo

Good point...she could have been with him or someone else...who knows

[nicky]

Thank you Faith. It isn't on here yet I guess.

It's kind of hard not to confuse G/C with Casey when they are constantly enabling her lying, IMO.

i agree, at some point they have got to face reality, they can't go on denying and covering for her. imo

[Isabella]

He said do not confuse G/C with Casey. Do Not Judge Them
Too late for me, I already have.
And I haven't confused them either, I have based my opinions of all of thier actions, well inactions is more like it.

I know people react different BUT I would be knocking on doors,
and IF I really thought Caylee was in Texas or wherever then I would be going there myself or getting a PI, not a criminal defense attorney.

[Faith]

Thank you Faith. It isn't on here yet I guess.

It's kind of hard not to confuse G/C with Casey when they are constantly enabling her lying, IMO.

He wasn't asked any hard questions. When he is he will blow it off, that's his job. JMO

[Trailblazer]

Didn't she have checks written to a winn-dixie? Maybe we could look on the map to see where the UCF, Winn-Dixie, and Amscot are in relation to each other. We know she'd not have spent much time in the grocery if she only had one bag.

I know its a long shot as we've no idea which days she was at the grocery or UCF.

Good point...but I thought she stole the checks from Amy between July 8th and the 15th

[nicky]

Too late for me, I already have.
And I haven't confused them either, I have based my opinions of all of thier actions, well inactions is more like it.

I know people react different BUT I would be knocking on doors,
and IF I really thought Caylee was in Texas or wherever then I would be going there myself or getting a PI, not a criminal defense attorney.

Amen to that, and I would probably be in jail, becuase I would have beat some information out of her.

[StoneFox]

i agree, at some point they have got to face reality, they can't go on denying and covering for her. imo

IMO, Nejame is fighting a losing battle trying to seperate C&G from Casey at this point. They have done nothing but put themselves right in the middle of Casey's lies.

Just my opinion though.

[Faith]

Too late for me, I already have.
And I haven't confused them either, I have based my opinions of all of thier actions, well inactions is more like it.

I know people react different BUT I would be knocking on doors,
and IF I really thought Caylee was in Texas or wherever then I would be going there myself or getting a PI, not a criminal defense attorney.

He said the A's are looking for an alive Caylee. I want to know where they are looking. He says denial could be a good thing. Same as in the articles, nothing different.

[Audie]

Cell phones now days are completely digital even those that were purchased back 2 yrs ago. Are you referring to seeing on the phone "roaming"? This just means you have gone outside your area but your can still receive calls.I've seen it in digital mode, roaming, no service and analog. Only once or twice in analog mode. A small "A" shows up. I checked my manual it's called the "Analog Indicator".

Brand - LG
Model - VX4650

[KittyMom]

Good point...but I thought she stole the checks from Amy between July 8th and the 15th

arghhh...never mind. I just can't keep it straight.

[StoneFox]

ARRGH!!! That mini-van parked right in front of the cam shot.

Has Casey left for her 6 hour visit with Baez?

[LiveLaughLuv]

He said do not confuse G/C with Casey. Do Not Judge Them


Yes Faith. It would be easier not to if they didn't change their attitudes. They went from something is wrong, to defending the child that made them think something was wrong.

I know it's their child, I feel they loved Caylee very much but to make excuses even after the evidence points to foul play, is what have people angry with them. Sure, it's their defense mode, holding on to that glimmer of hope but LE told them it points to a dead body.

Cindy herself said in not so many words, that Casey did this to get back at her. Casey knew how much she loved Caylee, Casey knew how much happiness Caylee brought to them. This was a vindictive move on Casey's part. She knows that, trying to igore the inevitable is their way of keeping their sanity. I myself am guilty of it. I go from having sympathy for they too are victims, to being angry because I feel like they are covering up. They too are victims of Casey.

Jose Baez said it best. The Anthony's are a normal family in an insane situation!

[Harmony]

Harmony as I said earlier, I believe she left the car there sometime on the 26th, the day before the mgr. noticed it...

You may be correct. I went back and looked. I cannot find a date when Tony picked her up. It is not in the arrest warrant or in my notes from the 400 page doc. I will keep looking.

[Faith]

IMO, Nejame is fighting a losing battle trying to seperate C&G from Casey at this point. They have done nothing but put themselves right in the middle of Casey's lies.

Just my opinion though.

Nejame aparently hasn't heard from them what we have. Why the lies? Why the cover-up for Casey?

I'm not upset with him b/c maybe he isn't aware but it's too late for his speech. Too much water under the bridge now.

G/C put themselves out there with lies, one only has to ask why. JMO

[Texas53]

I've seen it in digital mode, roaming, no service and analog. Only once or twice in analog mode. A small "A" shows up. I checked my manual it's called the "Analog Indicator".

Brand - LG
Model - VX4650


Do you have Verizon, Sprint or AT&T? They have their own network. Any other carriers are resellers and don't have their own networks. They work off the major carriers but show that companies name on your cell phone. That could be why you are seeing that on your phone.

[StoneFox]

Nejame aparently hasn't heard from them what we have. Why the lies? Why the cover-up for Casey?

I'm not upset with him b/c maybe he isn't aware but it's too late for his speech. Too much water under the bridge now.

G/C put themselves out there with lies, one only has to ask why. JMO

You stated it perfectly Faith.

All Nejame has to do is look at all the videos of the Anthonys from the beginning. He'll get a clue.

[Texas53]

Nejame aparently hasn't heard from them what we have. Why the lies? Why the cover-up for Casey?

I'm not upset with him b/c maybe he isn't aware but it's too late for his speech. Too much water under the bridge now.

G/C put themselves out there with lies, one only has to ask why. JMO

He will review any info that involve C & G. If he doesn't, he's not doing his job. Like he said, they aren't persons of interest, so he just has to do PR repair on them. Of course, he might have better results pulling a rabbit out of a hat. JMHO

[LiveLaughLuv]

Which video is it in and at what timeframe?


http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...race-show-998/

I found the map they showed on NG. First video at the 4:41 mark.

[Kami]

Nejame aparently hasn't heard from them what we have. Why the lies? Why the cover-up for Casey?

I'm not upset with him b/c maybe he isn't aware but it's too late for his speech. Too much water under the bridge now.

G/C put themselves out there with lies, one only has to ask why. JMO

Bingo!!!:zm10:

[protectkidz]

The contact list will stay in tact. It can also be pulled through Central Office records. If she puts the sim card in a phone and changes the number on the cell phone, she can lose all info as its programmed to the original number of the cell phone, as is the voice mail for that particular number the sim is for. If you have ever swapped out your cell phone for another, if you have noticed, all you info still works on the new cell phone. As long as the cell number stays the same.

thanks, Texas :)

[KittyMom]

I've been assuming that Casey called Tony to come and get her as soon as she parked the car. Maybe she parked the car and then walked away and spent several hours going in and out of stores, buys the bag of groceries, calls Tony and then walks back to the car and pretends to have just parked it.

[Texas53]

I don't think their will be many "bleeding hearts" for the A's. Therefore, I think this guy is going to be hitting a huge brick wall in his endeavors. JMHO

[protectkidz]

Right, but there is no Zenaida

right.

and for her to say - oh I lost the phone with her number in it - but then to still have the sim card from the phone ... shows she's full of p**p that she ever had the number to begin with.

I think.

I'm confusing myself.......

[protectkidz]

Last night Nate did confirm that. When TonyL went to pick her up, he's not sure of the time, between 11am and 1pm, Casey had a bag of groceries with her.

I thought that Sam's Club has no bags.

Boxes, but no bags.

??

[protectkidz]

I'm just hoping the majority of the people won't buy into this publicity baloney. I think most intelligent people won't. JMHO

I have to admit that my heart felt a few tugs.

Only for a minute, though.

But, I'm not as smart as my avatar, lol.

[Texas53]

I thought that Sam's Club has no bags.

Boxes, but no bags.

??


What other 24 hr grocery stores are in that immediate area? Did she have groceries or other items in the bags? Did she possibly purchase the stuff before she abandoned the car? If she had non-perishables that would be easy to do.

[Faith]

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...race-show-998/

I found the map they showed on NG. First video at the 4:41 mark.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/Stuff/map.jpg

[bubbs72]

but, but, but....

if she switched the blackjack's sim card (the one that was supposed to have ZG's # on it) to another phone, then her contact list would be intact, yes?

That is, her phone contact list stays with the sim card, right?

If you save the contact list to your sim card. My phone defaults to saving to the actual phone and I have to tell it to save on the sim card. I learned this the hard way when my last phone died. I lost my contact list when it happened. Now I save to both items.

BTW - The sim card is located behind your battery in the cell phone.

[LiveLaughLuv]

Didn't she have checks written to a winn-dixie? Maybe we could look on the map to see where the UCF, Winn-Dixie, and Amscot are in relation to each other. We know she'd not have spent much time in the grocery if she only had one bag.

I know its a long shot as we've no idea which days she was at the grocery or UCF.



http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...race-show-998/

I found the map they showed on NG. First video at the 4:41 mark.

The above shows all the spots.

I want to know who Caylee was with when Casey spent nights at TL's home? We know now there is no nanny who she was with. Cindy didn't have her in that time frame.

I want to know when Casey researched her chloroform.

I want to know how she obtained this chloroform.

Did she start using it on Caylee and leave her to sleep alone in her car?

Did she possibly give her too much that she never woke?

Too many unanswered questions.

[Isabella]

He said the A's are looking for an alive Caylee. I want to know where they are looking. He says denial could be a good thing. Same as in the articles, nothing different.
TY, that show was on a long time ago here, I was asleep.lol
I know C/G are in control, they got Casey out of jail, she in in thier home and they have said numerous times the public and media should find Caylee, now the money they are spending on security cameras at the house, etc...then I know they can get Casey to do a sketch of Z and her sister, it would do it or go back to jail for me but we all know imo they don't because there is no Nanny, never was.

[Harmony]

Yes Faith. It would be easier not to if they didn't change their attitudes. They went from something is wrong, to defending the child that made them think something was wrong.

I know it's their child, I feel they loved Caylee very much but to make excuses even after the evidence points to foul play, is what have people angry with them. Sure, it's their defense mode, holding on to that glimmer of hope but LE told them it points to a dead body.

Cindy herself said in not so many words, that Casey did this to get back at her. Casey knew how much she loved Caylee, Casey knew how much happiness Caylee brought to them. This was a vindictive move on Casey's part. She knows that, trying to igore the inevitable is their way of keeping their sanity. I myself am guilty of it. I go from having sympathy for they too are victims, to being angry because I feel like they are covering up. They too are victims of Casey.

Jose Baez said it best. The Anthony's are a normal family in an insane situation!

We are on the same page, my friend. I also vacillate between empathy and outrage/anger. As parents we all say we would beat her, shake her,etc. or would have done things differently. We have to remember that probably all of us have normal kids. Casey is extremely cunning, and manipulative IMO. We don't know the results of the psych exam but in my opinion something is very wrong and I doubt any of us would know how to deal with this type person IMO.

[Breezy]

She noticed the car on June 27 and June 28th, then on June 30th she called the tow truck company to remove the car.

On the 28th she called LE to see if it was a stolen car. When she noticed the car still there on the 30th she had it towed.

I believe the cell phone pings from the 24th (which was the day she went home, talked to george, borrowed a shovel from the neighbor),
25th and 26th (possible day/night that the car was abandoned) should be the ones that are looked at more closely.

I would love to know the date, time and area of each cell phone ping.
The girl is not very bright and I don't think she is one to go anywhere without her cell phone....Little Caylee is somewhere in those ping areas.
I don't see her slinging a shovel for very long either.....unless, she did a little bit each day for several days.

Here are some of my questions. I'd like to know what you all have to say about them:
Supposively the A's had a concrete patio put down the weekend of July 4th....others say it was brick pavers....Has that been checked/searched?

The soil in the trunk of the car......did any info on that ever come back? The type of soil or anything in particular about the soil that could link it to a specific place.

Do you believe that little Caylee could have possible been buried in the Anthony's back yard and then removed? I think about this alot....why else would there be soil, hair and decomposition in the back of the car? And if this did happen, surely there would be extreme damage to any remains from the shovel....

If she was in that car for a long period of time....Casey would have an awful smell on her also, you would think anyways.



Then again, I also wonder, another scenario, if something had just happened to Caylee around that time period then any fresh blood or body fluids would still make the car smell after being closed up in the car for several days in the sweltering heat.

Ugh, I think I'm talking in circles here.....Thoughts, anyone????


(Let me insert here, just in case: These are only my thoughts,wonders,curiousities, IMO, JMO, MOO and possibly my brain working overtime) ~That should cover my behind~

[protectkidz]

you know, I hope the same thing happens with this defense fund that happened with Drew Peterson's - public outcry caused his atty to remove it.

[protectkidz]

If you save the contact list to your sim card. My phone defaults to saving to the actual phone and I have to tell it to save on the sim card. I learned this the hard way when my last phone died. I lost my contact list when it happened. Now I save to both items.

BTW - The sim card is located behind your battery in the cell phone.

I literally had no idea of this - I just thought it automatically went to the card.

hmmmm....I better go find my phone and figure out how to do that.....

thx, bubb!