Spector 2: Trial Coverage [FOUND GUILTY]

[Sprocket]

Spector 2: Trial Coverage
There has been a misconception on blogs and message boards that the Spector retrial will be televised. That's not necessarily the case.

At the last pretrial hearing, Judge Fidler stated that no media organization has approached him to put cameras in the courtroom. Fidler stated, that there was not as much media interest for this trial. When I was sitting there in court, this came as a shock to me. Everyone had just assumed that the retrial would be covered.

My co-blogger at Trials & Tribulations, donchais, contacted some people she know in the media industry and practically begged them to look into this. First, was TruTV going to cover the trial, and if not, would they be interested and could they do it?

The media group informed us that after investigating, it looks like TruTV is NOT going to cover Spector 2. This is the group that every other news outlet that offered live streaming coverage obtained their feed from. They were the one's with the cameras.

We were also told that the cost to put cameras in the courtroom (meeting Judge Fidler's requirements of small cameras, mounted on the wall and hidden behind boxes) was prohibitive for their group to cover this cost. At 30,000 a month (and that would just cover expenses; it does not include a profit) with no clear picture on how long the trial might last the group came back to T&T and asked, would the public be willing to pay to see this trial? The more people who were willing to pay, the lower the cost would be per person.

So that's what we're asking. If you are willing to pay to see Spector 2, please drop by Trials & Tribulations (http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2008/09/spector-part-deux-can-we-get-coverage.html) and leave a comment. You don't have to join Blogger to comment. You can leave a comment anonymously. You can also sign the petition that is linked there. Although the petition asks for a donation, you are under no obligation to pay a fee to add your name to the petition.

Are you willing? It is imperative to leave a message so we can gauge what kind of interest there is and get it put in motion!! The media folks are monitoring the responses on the blog.

[lovelaw]

OF COURSE I want to see this trial televised!! This trial NEEDS to be televised. It wouldn't be fair to those of us who invested so much time and interest in the first trial to not be able to see the second trial! Justice has been delayed...we need to SEE that it has not been denied.

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[sunstar]

Sprocket ~ I would be willing to pay if I was home during the day to watch it, but I work so unless there is video to watch at night it wouldn't be worth my money. It is too bad things aren't the same as they were with the first trial when both courttv and KTLA covered the trial. :frown:

[Sprocket]

Sprocket ~ I would be willing to pay if I was home during the day to watch it, but I work so unless there is video to watch at night it wouldn't be worth my money. It is too bad things aren't the same as they were with the first trial when both courttv and KTLA covered the trial. :frown:

As of last Thursday, I confirmed with the LA County Public Information Office that two news organizations had filled out the proper paperwork applications and have been approved.

The Associated Press: Still Photography
KTLA (independent local channel 5) for the following: Opening statements, portions of testimony, closing arguments, verdict, and sentencing.

As of this point, there appears there will be some coverage of the trial.

[TobyTiger]

As of last Thursday, I confirmed with the LA County Public Information Office that two news organizations had filled out the proper paperwork applications and have been approved.

The Associated Press: Still Photography
KTLA (independent local channel 5) for the following: Opening statements, portions of testimony, closing arguments, verdict, and sentencing.

As of this point, there appears there will be some coverage of the trial.

Thanks for the update!

Will you also be attending the retrial?

[lovelaw]

As of last Thursday, I confirmed with the LA County Public Information Office that two news organizations had filled out the proper paperwork applications and have been approved.

The Associated Press: Still Photography
KTLA (independent local channel 5) for the following: Opening statements, portions of testimony, closing arguments, verdict, and sentencing.

As of this point, there appears there will be some coverage of the trial.

Well, this is something, at least. I'll keep my fingers crossed for more. I would pay for it to be carried on a pay-per-view basis.

Thanks for the heads up!~

[sciencegirl]

As of last Thursday, I confirmed with the LA County Public Information Office that two news organizations had filled out the proper paperwork applications and have been approved.

The Associated Press: Still Photography
KTLA (independent local channel 5) for the following: Opening statements, portions of testimony, closing arguments, verdict, and sentencing.

As of this point, there appears there will be some coverage of the trial.

:groan: I want the entire trial. Not snippets. I was counting on this trial to get me through the worst of Winter. :groan:

[kindee]

Well, this is something, at least. I'll keep my fingers crossed for more. I would pay for it to be carried on a pay-per-view basis.

Thanks for the heads up!~




YES YES YES I would pay too, last week we were discussing how much we missed the Court TV Extra we used to have, and were more than willing to pay for.

Ah, the good old days of live feeds....


:happy0207: everyone!

[lovelaw]

YES YES YES I would pay too, last week we were discussing how much we missed the Court TV Extra we used to have, and were more than willing to pay for.

Ah, the good old days of live feeds....


:happy0207: everyone!


I still mourn the loss of CTV Extra!!:1187603408.CR.Mothe

"I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for CTV Extra today"....paraphrased from a quote by Wimpy J. Wellington.

I yam what I yam!~

http://www.martello.it/popeye/popeye_images/thimble_theater.gif

Seriously, I WOULD PAY FOR SPECTOR II!~

[kindee]

hhhhaaa love it lovelaw, Gnarly Dude looks a lot like The Jeep. Ah, the good ole days of Popeye....

[lost indie]

hhhhaaa love it lovelaw, Gnarly Dude looks a lot like The Jeep. Ah, the good ole days of Popeye....

I'm a dead ringer for Alice the Loon....

:022:

[kindee]

I'm a dead ringer for Alice the Loon....

:022:




HAHAHAHA she's a GOON, you're a LOON!

Isn't she the one who went around stalking Popeye? "I love popeye. I love Popeye. I love popeye." ?????:love0085:

[lovelaw]

hhhhaaa love it lovelaw, Gnarly Dude looks a lot like The Jeep. Ah, the good ole days of Popeye....

HAHA!~ Lucky Cat!~

Yep! I actually loved the Popeye movie!! Was I the ONLY one!!??:blondblush113268230

DANG! I'd love for Spector II to be broadcast SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW!~

[lovelaw]

I'm a dead ringer for Alice the Loon....

:022:



:67302:





:a1chic:

[lovelaw]

HAHAHAHA she's a GOON, you're a LOON!

Isn't she the one who went around stalking Popeye? "I love popeye. I love Popeye. I love popeye." ?????:love0085:

HAHA!~

You got it!~ All the while he was trying to get away from her!~:71526::hide:

[Sprocket]

The start of voie dire has been moved back from October 14th to October 20th. This is so counsel on both sides will have time to review all the completed juror questionnaires.

[kindee]

The start of voie dire has been moved back from October 14th to October 20th. This is so counsel on both sides will have time to review all the completed juror questionnaires.




Well they sure are being cautious for thinking there isn't much interest or publicity this go round 'eh Sprocket?

I'm still hoping they change their minds and offer gavel-to-gavel feed.

[sunstar]

The start of voie dire has been moved back from October 14th to October 20th. This is so counsel on both sides will have time to review all the completed juror questionnaires.

Thanks so much for the update! :smile:

[lovelaw]

The start of voie dire has been moved back from October 14th to October 20th. This is so counsel on both sides will have time to review all the completed juror questionnaires.

Thanks for the update.

[lovelaw]

Well they sure are being cautious for thinking there isn't much interest or publicity this go round 'eh Sprocket?

I'm still hoping they change their minds and offer gavel-to-gavel feed.

They sure aren't taking any chances!~

I hope so too! Not interested???? They couldn't BE more wrong!!~

[sunstar]

They sure aren't taking any chances!~

I hope so too! Not interested???? They couldn't BE more wrong!!~

Maybe now that OJ's trial is over, Phil will get the attention of trutv once again. :shrug1:

[bambam]

I am most definitely an INTERESTED party!!! we MUST have SPEC II!! we MUST!!! jeeez, how long have we been waiting for this??? AARRGH!!! :groan: :000a1::0009: :frustratedf: :cray:



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[gramvof14]

hey i am willing to pay what the heck we need to see Spector 2 JEEEEZUS
why the hell would they think there wasn't enough interest.:groan:

[Sprocket]

I'm so sorry that a news organization is not interested in spending the bucks to live feed this trial.

With the economy the way it is, many news outlets are not even going to have a reporter cover the trial.

I will be there as many days as I possibly can. I will also be looking into the possibility of blogging from the back row. The only problem I've had with that in the past, is I was never able to maintain a good Internet connection in courtroom 106 through "tethering" with my phone.

I'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

[lovelaw]

Maybe now that OJ's trial is over, Phil will get the attention of trutv once again. :shrug1:

THAT would be excellent! Thus far, they haven't even mentioned it, have they?? I just can't imagine why they would shy away from Spector II. I bet if they polled their trial hours audience, they would receive a resounding YES to covering Spector the second time 'round!!~

And really, WHAT will they show, something canned?? I HATE THAT~

I sure hope you're right sunstar!!~:hifive: It makes perfect sense!~

[lovelaw]

I am most definitely an INTERESTED party!!! we MUST have SPEC II!! we MUST!!! jeeez, how long have we been waiting for this??? AARRGH!!! :groan: :000a1::0009: :frustratedf: :cray:



:0012:

hey i am willing to pay what the heck we need to see Spector 2 JEEEEZUS
why the hell would they think there wasn't enough interest.:groan:


ITA!!~ COME ON!~ BRING IT!~ We'll even pay!~:s1gyahoo:

I'm dying to see his latest WIG!!~:howdy:

[lovelaw]

I'm so sorry that a news organization is not interested in spending the bucks to live feed this trial.

With the economy the way it is, many news outlets are not even going to have a reporter cover the trial.

I will be there as many days as I possibly can. I will also be looking into the possibility of blogging from the back row. The only problem I've had with that in the past, is I was never able to maintain a good Internet connection in courtroom 106 through "tethering" with my phone.

I'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

Your updates, and efforts are much appreciated Sprocket!!~

The economy....................what will it screw up next!!?? :groan:

I look forward to anything you can provide, and understand completely, your limitations. I wish I knew a better way for you to maintain an Internet connection..but alas, I am not that savvy!~

[PatC]

You can certainly color me disappointed. I have been anxiously awaiting PS2 since I picked myself up off the floor when I heard there was a hung jury at the first trial.

As for why it will not be shown.... I read Michal Bryant's blog the other day over on The Legal Edge. He was trying to find a way to televise the PS2 trial. One of the reasons he gave for not televising it was:

* "Ratings at CTV proved not enough people watched the first version of the Spector case."

Personally I find that REALLY hard to believe, but CTV ratings may well have been plummeting, but IMO it was because CTV was tanking, NOT because the trial was not being watched.

Also, the fact that it was a West Coast trial threw it later in the day... I can't remember, is that one of those West Coast trials that CTV cut us off before the end of the trial day?

He did tell me that "...KTLA is planning on minimal coverage of Openings; Closings and Verdict".

He also said he'd investigated running it as a "pay for view" type show but the costs were prohibitive.

I swear, if I had the money, I'd travel out there in order to see this trial!

DISCLAIMER: If anyone else has posted this information, I apologize, I did not read all the way up-thread.

[PatC]

I'm so sorry that a news organization is not interested in spending the bucks to live feed this trial.

With the economy the way it is, many news outlets are not even going to have a reporter cover the trial.

I will be there as many days as I possibly can. I will also be looking into the possibility of blogging from the back row. The only problem I've had with that in the past, is I was never able to maintain a good Internet connection in courtroom 106 through "tethering" with my phone.

I'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

Great. I'll look forward to your information. If I fold myself up really, really itty bitty, would you take me in your pocket? I promise I'll be very, very quiet. :kissyface4:

[DRJAN]

Hello Everyone I don't know if you got the word from The Legal Edge they are looking for subscription to have the trial for Phil Spector. He is looking for a $35.00 fee if you need any more information go to the legal edge.

[sunstar]

You can certainly color me disappointed. I have been anxiously awaiting PS2 since I picked myself up off the floor when I heard there was a hung jury at the first trial.

As for why it will not be shown.... I read Michal Bryant's blog the other day over on The Legal Edge. He was trying to find a way to televise the PS2 trial. One of the reasons he gave for not televising it was:

* "Ratings at CTV proved not enough people watched the first version of the Spector case."

Personally I find that REALLY hard to believe, but CTV ratings may well have been plummeting, but IMO it was because CTV was tanking, NOT because the trial was not being watched.

Also, the fact that it was a West Coast trial threw it later in the day... I can't remember, is that one of those West Coast trials that CTV cut us off before the end of the trial day?

He did tell me that "...KTLA is planning on minimal coverage of Openings; Closings and Verdict".

He also said he'd investigated running it as a "pay for view" type show but the costs were prohibitive.

I swear, if I had the money, I'd travel out there in order to see this trial!

DISCLAIMER: If anyone else has posted this information, I apologize, I did not read all the way up-thread.


Hi Pat :0012: Yes, the first trial was cut off every day by courttv and that's why many of us watched online with KTLA. The anchors there also didn't interrupt during the trial with commercials or lots of chatting.

[DeeJay]

Hello Everyone I don't know if you got the word from The Legal Edge they are looking for subscription to have the trial for Phil Spector. He is looking for a $35.00 fee if you need any more information go to the legal edge.

I got an email/memo from Michael Bryant @ TLE
and I must say, 35$ per month to watch a
trial is a tad too much.

Not that I can't afford it, it's the principle of it.

I saw the first trial, every word and see no reason to
pay to watch the retrial.

I really don't think TLE will get many takers for the 35$
per month price tag.

My main interest would be the opening statements and
closing arguments & the verdict, which as I understand,
KTLA will carry those......for free.

[Precisely]

I got the e-mail, too, and also replied that it was a little steep. Also, I asked them if they would need a commitment of months 'cause otherwise how would they know beyond one month how many people would stay?

:shrug1:

[Cat]

I got it, too, and I have lots of others things to spend $35 on (like my medicine). Oh, well. Maybe KTLA will semi-cover it. I never could sit through the whole day anyway.

[sunstar]

I don't have that much either to spend on a trial that I won't get to see all of anyway because I'm at work during the day. :shrug1:

[PatC]

I got an email/memo from Michael Bryant @ TLE
and I must say, 35$ per month to watch a
trial is a tad too much.

Not that I can't afford it, it's the principle of it.

I saw the first trial, every word and see no reason to
pay to watch the retrial.

I really don't think TLE will get many takers for the 35$
per month price tag.

My main interest would be the opening statements and
closing arguments & the verdict, which as I understand,
KTLA will carry those......for free.

I disagree, this is one I'd pay for. Yes, I'll sign up at $35.00 a month for the trial. You Bet!

I'd probably blow that much with whatever else I'd be doing instead of watching the trial.

I'm definitely on board. I hope enough of the rest of you join me. I wanna see this one.

:happy0158:

[PatC]

Hi Pat :0012: Yes, the first trial was cut off every day by courttv and that's why many of us watched online with KTLA. The anchors there also didn't interrupt during the trial with commercials or lots of chatting.

The problem with relying on others, e.g., KTLA is that they all used the TruTV camera feed for their broadcasts.

[Orchid Corsage]

I got an email/memo from Michael Bryant @ TLE
and I must say, 35$ per month to watch a
trial is a tad too much.

Not that I can't afford it, it's the principle of it.

I saw the first trial, every word and see no reason to
pay to watch the retrial.

I really don't think TLE will get many takers for the 35$
per month price tag.

My main interest would be the opening statements and
closing arguments & the verdict, which as I understand,
KTLA will carry those......for free.

DeeJay, also rec'd the e-mail and it is a tad too much, YIKES is what I thought! LOL Not going to do it! :lex_10: If I ever did something like that, I definetly would need my head examined! lol :thud2:

[Orchid Corsage]

I got it, too, and I have lots of others things to spend $35 on (like my medicine). Oh, well. Maybe KTLA will semi-cover it. I never could sit through the whole day anyway.

Cat, I can never sit thru the whole day either. Takes too much of my time. I'll settle on media reports.

Heck, I won a jackpot at the casino last night :zm10:, but still not going to do it! Like you I can spend that on other things.

[gramvof14]

I got the e-mail also and feel $35 a month is a bit much, I live on a fixed income and can not justify spending that kind of money to watch a trial. I was willing to pay if it was reasonable thats not reasonable to me.I see they got quite a few people so far, but I don't know if they will get enough.:groan:

[dojewo]

Hi all, I too recieved the email from Michal and another one from someone else today. It's a problem for me right now because money is tight and the time issue. I can spend more time on East coast trials. I really don't think I will be spending the money for Spector 2. Hopefully there will be enough media coverage for me to catch up though.

[StoneFox]

Whe does this trial start? I had it marked on my calendar for today. I guess I got that wrong, or there is another delay.

[Sprocket]

Whe does this trial start? I had it marked on my calendar for today. I guess I got that wrong, or there is another delay.

Voir dire will start 10/20. Jury selection may take as long 7 days.

[bambam]

I got it, too, and I have lots of others things to spend $35 on (like my medicine). Oh, well. Maybe KTLA will semi-cover it. I never could sit through the whole day anyway.

oh you and me both, cat! no way will i spend $35 month for that!! i just can't do it! semi-coverage would be fine with me too...just something after we've waited this long!!! :frustratedf:

[Shotzie]

oh you and me both, cat! no way will i spend $35 month for that!! i just can't do it! semi-coverage would be fine with me too...just something after we've waited this long!!! :frustratedf:

I'm with you too. The $6.75 or whatever it was back with ctv I could afford, but now I am retired...geez gotta watch every penny..Beer :zm10: or Trial, Beer:zm10: or Trial, o.k Beer won out, I will need it when I hear the verdict it better be GUILTY!!!!:love0081:

[PatC]

I guess I look at this differently. Most of us wouldn't think a thing of paying $35.00 for a ticket to a concert --- one evening's entertainment, but for $35.00 for the number of months of the trial, I will have access to days and days of entertainment (5 days a week? -- whatever the trial schedule works out to be.) and I don't even have to shave my legs or get out of my easy chair. :67302:

Now, if this were a first trial of someone and I didn't know how much I enjoy watching that particular prosecutor and that particular judge, I probably wouldn't pay it either.

[bambam]

I'm with you too. The $6.75 or whatever it was back with ctv I could afford, but now I am retired...geez gotta watch every penny..Beer :zm10: or Trial, Beer:zm10: or Trial, o.k Beer won out, I will need it when I hear the verdict it better be GUILTY!!!!:love0081:

:67302: omg shotzie....you sound just like me!! :zm10: :party52: :hifive:

[bambam]

I guess I look at this differently. Most of us wouldn't think a thing of paying $35.00 for a ticket to a concert --- one evening's entertainment, but for $35.00 for the number of months of the trial, I will have access to days and days of entertainment (5 days a week? -- whatever the trial schedule works out to be.) and I don't even have to shave my legs or get out of my easy chair. :67302:

Now, if this were a first trial of someone and I didn't know how much I enjoy watching that particular prosecutor and that particular judge, I probably wouldn't pay it either.


:waitasec:hmmm...well i see what you're saying...and that's one way to look at it! BUT...when ya pay $35 for a concert ticket...you KNOW you're gonna be there totally focused on the event. i know that when a trial is running...there are plenty of days that i don't get to watch...and there's rarely a day that i watch the ENTIRE day...besides...they are talking about $35 per MONTH....not just a one-time fee...i mean, IF the trial runs over a month. the first was over 6 months! i realize the second one prolly would not last near as long...but still i think that $35 a month is steep!! (for me, anyway!) :shrug1:

[rem16]

:waitasec:hmmm...well i see what you're saying...and that's one way to look at it! BUT...when ya pay $35 for a concert ticket...you KNOW you're gonna be there totally focused on the event. i know that when a trial is running...there are plenty of days that i don't get to watch...and there's rarely a day that i watch the ENTIRE day...besides...they are talking about $35 per MONTH....not just a one-time fee...i mean, IF the trial runs over a month. the first was over 6 months! i realize the second one prolly would not last near as long...but still i think that $35 a month is steep!! (for me, anyway!) :shrug1:

I also remember reading that if enough people sign on for it, the price per month would go down. So who knows.:shrug1:

[TobyTiger]

AND NOW...THE PHIL SPECTOR RETRIAL (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-spector19-2008oct19,0,3838087.story)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-10/42967514.jpg

Thirteen months after jurors deadlocked in the music producer's murder trial, jury selection begins for the second go-round. He faces 18 years in prison if convicted of killing actress Lana Clarkson.

By Harriet Ryan, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 19, 2008
A smiling Phil Spector shuffled out of a downtown Los Angeles courthouse 13 months ago after his murder trial ended in a hung jury, stepped into a chauffeured Mercedes and sped back to his Alhambra mansion. In the driveway of the hilltop estate, the legendary music producer and his wife danced ebulliently while waving to hovering news helicopters.

The specifics of the deadlock might not seem worthy of celebration -- jurors voted 10 to 2 for conviction -- but the mistrial guaranteed the 67-year-old a period of freedom and the opportunity to retool his defense.

How long Spector remains a free man will probably be decided at his retrial, which begins this week with the selection of a new jury. The man whose work with musicians such as the Beatles, the Ramones and Tina Turner revolutionized pop music faces a minimum of 18 years in prison if convicted of second-degree murder.

He will arrive at the same courtroom, sit at the same table and listen, once again, as prosecutors paint him as an unstable gun nut who shot an actress in the mouth because she rebuffed his sexual advances. And Spector's defense will counter, as it did last year, that Lana Clarkson was suicidal over her flagging Hollywood career and shot herself in the foyer of his home on Feb. 3, 2003.

If the retrial is largely a reprise, it is likely to be a shorter performance in a different key. Spector has replaced his sprawling and at times dysfunctional legal team -- half a dozen attorneys, including a bombastic New York City mob lawyer not always on speaking terms with colleagues -- with a single attorney, a sober San Franciscan with a record of converting retrials into acquittals.


"Both sides understand a little more clearly what evidence is most important," said Spector's attorney, Doron Weinberg.

"We'll have a more efficient trial and one that I think will be easier for the jury to follow and understand."

Judge Larry Paul Fidler told prospective jurors that he hopes the case will conclude in three months -- two months less than last year's trial.

Side issues extended the length of that proceeding: A Hollywood madam teetered into the courtroom in stilettos and a micro-mini with a salacious tale about Clarkson working as a call girl. Famed forensic scientist and defense expert Dr. Henry Lee was accused of hiding or destroying potentially important evidence. A surprise witness purporting to be the actress' longtime lover promised to blow the case open with testimony about cocaine and guns -- only to be assailed as an impostor.

In the end, none of those witnesses took the stand, and the issues are not expected to arise again.

At the heart of the case are unflattering portraits of the defendant and the woman he is accused of killing. Prosecutors depict Spector as a misogynist who answers romantic rejection by pulling a gun and who once said all women "deserve a bullet in their . . . heads."

The defense is expected to cast Clarkson, 40, as an over-the-hill C-lister whose professional and personal disappointments may have made death an attractive option.

A witness list filed with the court indicates little alteration in the lineup.

"The evidence does not change from trial to trial. The evidence is what we presented in court last time," said Sandi Gibbons, spokeswoman for the district attorney's office.

Still expected are a string of women who claim Spector menaced them with guns in the decades leading up to Clarkson's death. One who took the stand for prosecutors last year, Dianne Ogden, died in December.

The judge had not yet decided whether jurors will see a videotape of her testimony. Prosecutors located a sixth woman after the trial, but the judge ruled she could not testify, saying that her allegations were not similar enough to the circumstances of Clarkson's death.

Probable defense witnesses are friends and colleagues of Clarkson's who previously testified the actress was on the edge of a nervous breakdown at the time of the shooting.

more at the link

[Pandabear]

Phillip looks like hammered hEll! Sorta looks like he might have had a bit of work done on his face since the last trial. I'd love to be able to watch parts of this trial, but I don't think I want to get into it as much as I did the last one. I swear, it wore me out physically and mentally.

I know he's guilty and I pray that this jury comes back with the right verdict and Lana will finally have the justice she deserves.

[Boscorelli]

I am not watching any re-trial of Phil Spector. The 1st jury deadlocked 10 - 2 Guilty of murder.
The major problem here,as I see it; both Spector and Clarkson were both very 'troubled people' whose lives were slowly going down hill.
Had Clarkson just said "NO" to Spector she would be alive today;and may have made that TV commerical.There was testimony in the 1st trial,that an offer to make a TV commerical was on the table.I believe it was just the first round,discussing the product and structuring the contract as how much she would have been paid.
Clarkson took the bait,'the promise of stardom' and she and Spector took the chauffuered champagne ride to death.
Since both Spector and Clarkson were drunk and handled the gun;was this a murder???.
In my opinion,Specter should plea the case. Accidental shooting death without any prison time;all the negative press now is serveing as his own prison guard.
TRUTV's court programs,follow the same format when they were called COURT TV.Same anchors,to many commerical per hour and chatter from defense attorneys.My best source of Info will come from our website.

Boscorelli

[kindee]

Well I think he is guilty as sin and hope this one turns out RIGHT. But I don't think I'll be putting out the $35 either----unless ALL y'all do.

:grin:

[sunstar]

OMG ~ I just read the article TobyTiger posted and that photo of PS ~ he doesn't look good at all! :blondblush113268230

[sunstar]

Well I think he is guilty as sin and hope this one turns out RIGHT. But I don't think I'll be putting out the $35 either----unless ALL y'all do.

:grin:

It really would be a waste of money for me since I'm at work during the day and wouldn't be able to watch it! Oh well ~ there's always the updates on the internet! :smile:

[Boscorelli]

I would love to see this case plea bargained.It could still take place;Defense attorneys very often negoiate with the prosecution during a trial;then they speak to the presideing judge hearing the case.The judge questions the defendant,in court,without the jury;satisfied that the defendant accepts the plea bargain as stated;pleads guilty to the said charge. The judge then thanks the jury and dismisses them.Defendant goes off to prison.
Both Spector and Clarkson were drunk and handled the gun.I hate to say this but this 'BUM/JERK:mad:will 'walk'

Boscorelli

[Scampi]

Well I think he is guilty as sin and hope this one turns out RIGHT. But I don't think I'll be putting out the $35 either----unless ALL y'all do.

:grin:

Hi my friend!! Yep, I hope he goes down big time. Lana and her family and friends need Justice.

[kindee]

Hi my friend!! Yep, I hope he goes down big time. Lana and her family and friends need Justice.




helllooooooo Scampi my Scamp!!!!

I do NOT hope for a plea bargain, I hope for a big fat GUILTY AS CHARGED.

And for Spector to die in prison. He should have been in prison a loooong time ago. Time to make that man PAY for his crime(s).

Hope to see you around during the trial at some point or other, Scamp and all! :0012:

[Harmony]

AND NOW...THE PHIL SPECTOR RETRIAL (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-spector19-2008oct19,0,3838087.story)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-10/42967514.jpg

Thirteen months after jurors deadlocked in the music producer's murder trial, jury selection begins for the second go-round. He faces 18 years in prison if convicted of killing actress Lana Clarkson.

By Harriet Ryan, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 19, 2008
A smiling Phil Spector shuffled out of a downtown Los Angeles courthouse 13 months ago after his murder trial ended in a hung jury, stepped into a chauffeured Mercedes and sped back to his Alhambra mansion. In the driveway of the hilltop estate, the legendary music producer and his wife danced ebulliently while waving to hovering news helicopters.

The specifics of the deadlock might not seem worthy of celebration -- jurors voted 10 to 2 for conviction -- but the mistrial guaranteed the 67-year-old a period of freedom and the opportunity to retool his defense.

How long Spector remains a free man will probably be decided at his retrial, which begins this week with the selection of a new jury. The man whose work with musicians such as the Beatles, the Ramones and Tina Turner revolutionized pop music faces a minimum of 18 years in prison if convicted of second-degree murder.

He will arrive at the same courtroom, sit at the same table and listen, once again, as prosecutors paint him as an unstable gun nut who shot an actress in the mouth because she rebuffed his sexual advances. And Spector's defense will counter, as it did last year, that Lana Clarkson was suicidal over her flagging Hollywood career and shot herself in the foyer of his home on Feb. 3, 2003.

If the retrial is largely a reprise, it is likely to be a shorter performance in a different key. Spector has replaced his sprawling and at times dysfunctional legal team -- half a dozen attorneys, including a bombastic New York City mob lawyer not always on speaking terms with colleagues -- with a single attorney, a sober San Franciscan with a record of converting retrials into acquittals.


"Both sides understand a little more clearly what evidence is most important," said Spector's attorney, Doron Weinberg.

"We'll have a more efficient trial and one that I think will be easier for the jury to follow and understand."

Judge Larry Paul Fidler told prospective jurors that he hopes the case will conclude in three months -- two months less than last year's trial.

Side issues extended the length of that proceeding: A Hollywood madam teetered into the courtroom in stilettos and a micro-mini with a salacious tale about Clarkson working as a call girl. Famed forensic scientist and defense expert Dr. Henry Lee was accused of hiding or destroying potentially important evidence. A surprise witness purporting to be the actress' longtime lover promised to blow the case open with testimony about cocaine and guns -- only to be assailed as an impostor.

In the end, none of those witnesses took the stand, and the issues are not expected to arise again.

At the heart of the case are unflattering portraits of the defendant and the woman he is accused of killing. Prosecutors depict Spector as a misogynist who answers romantic rejection by pulling a gun and who once said all women "deserve a bullet in their . . . heads."

The defense is expected to cast Clarkson, 40, as an over-the-hill C-lister whose professional and personal disappointments may have made death an attractive option.

A witness list filed with the court indicates little alteration in the lineup.

"The evidence does not change from trial to trial. The evidence is what we presented in court last time," said Sandi Gibbons, spokeswoman for the district attorney's office.

Still expected are a string of women who claim Spector menaced them with guns in the decades leading up to Clarkson's death. One who took the stand for prosecutors last year, Dianne Ogden, died in December.

The judge had not yet decided whether jurors will see a videotape of her testimony. Prosecutors located a sixth woman after the trial, but the judge ruled she could not testify, saying that her allegations were not similar enough to the circumstances of Clarkson's death.

Probable defense witnesses are friends and colleagues of Clarkson's who previously testified the actress was on the edge of a nervous breakdown at the time of the shooting.

more at the link

Thanks for the update Toby!!

[lovelaw]

Well I think he is guilty as sin and hope this one turns out RIGHT. But I don't think I'll be putting out the $35 either----unless ALL y'all do.

:grin:

I might be in the minority...but, I WOULD GLADLY pay the $35.00 a month to watch Spector II!!~ I look at it as $35.OO of at home entertainment!!~ Kind of like a "stay-cation"!!:happy0158:

:0012::friends3:

[lovelaw]

Hi my friend!! Yep, I hope he goes down big time. Lana and her family and friends need Justice.

Hey SCAMP!~ I hope he does too!~ :0012:

[lovelaw]

AND NOW...THE PHIL SPECTOR RETRIAL (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-spector19-2008oct19,0,3838087.story)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-10/42967514.jpg



more at the link

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE Toby!~:zm10:

[lovelaw]

OMG ~ I just read the article TobyTiger posted and that photo of PS ~ he doesn't look good at all! :blondblush113268230

ITA!~ It doesn't look as though his "free" time has been good to him.

[kindee]

I might be in the minority...but, I WOULD GLADLY pay the $35.00 a month to watch Spector II!!~ I look at it as $35.OO of at home entertainment!!~ Kind of like a "stay-cation"!!:happy0158:

:0012::friends3:



I'd do it if you'd do it! :happy0158:

[lovelaw]

I'd do it if you'd do it! :happy0158:

:happy0158: WOO HOO!! That's $70.00!! Isn't that ENOUGH to get SOMEONE to commit!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:happy0158:

[kindee]

:happy0158: WOO HOO!! That's $70.00!! Isn't that ENOUGH to get SOMEONE to commit!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:happy0158:




That won't even buy PS a new hairdo for the gig! hahahahaha

[lovelaw]

That won't even buy PS a new hairdo for the gig! hahahahaha

LOL!!

He's lookin' goooooooooooood isn't he??!! :0devil:

He kind of looks like this guy, with hair>>>:francis:

[sunstar]

I might be in the minority...but, I WOULD GLADLY pay the $35.00 a month to watch Spector II!!~ I look at it as $35.OO of at home entertainment!!~ Kind of like a "stay-cation"!!:happy0158:

:0012::friends3:

Oh I wouldn't mind paying the $35 if I was home all day to watch it! :girl_haha: Before the last trial I was at home then got a new job, but was able to watch online through ktla and catch up on video in the evening.

[sunstar]

ITA!~ It doesn't look as though his "free" time has been good to him.

Maybe all isn't happy inside the castle? :blondblush113268230 :67302:

[Boscorelli]

Is the $35.00 a fee that people must pay to watch this trial live? I wouldn't pay 2 cents for this retrial.I can find out what's what and going on from our message board.

Boscorelli:happy0207:

[Scampi]

Wow, that pic of him sure shows the ghoul in him, imo.

[StoneFox]

Anybody have any idea when the trial will start?

TIA~

[sciencegirl]

Anybody have any idea when the trial will start?

TIA~

I'm assuming sometime next week. I believe jury selection began this Monday.

I'm wondering if we should all bombard KTLA with emails; since they will cover the openings, closings, snippets, and the verdict?? See if they will cover the entire trial for us

What say you all???

[bambam]

I'm assuming sometime next week. I believe jury selection began this Monday.

I'm wondering if we should all bombard KTLA with emails; since they will cover the openings, closings, snippets, and the verdict?? See if they will cover the entire trial for us

What say you all???

:0012: sure, why not? it can't hurt....may not help...but it can't hurt! :shrug1:

[kindee]

Wow, that pic of him sure shows the ghoul in him, imo.




Ghouls everywhere are insulted. :girl_haha:

[kindee]

Anybody have any idea when the trial will start?

TIA~




Jury selection was supposed to take up most of this week.

So Monday? I'm totally guessing. :happy0207::happy0158:

[sciencegirl]

:0012: sure, why not? it can't hurt....may not help...but it can't hurt! :shrug1:

Well then; let's get busy and start emailing them. I mean; they are already going to have the cameras set up in the courtroom; so they may as well cover the entire thing.

Let's do it!!!! Is it just KTLA.com??? I can't remember.:frustratedf:

[lovelaw]

I'm assuming sometime next week. I believe jury selection began this Monday.

I'm wondering if we should all bombard KTLA with emails; since they will cover the openings, closings, snippets, and the verdict?? See if they will cover the entire trial for us

What say you all???

I'm onboard!!~~

I'm still floored that NO ONE is covering this live! It is a ratings bonanza waiting to happen, IMO.

[sciencegirl]

I'm onboard!!~~

I'm still floored that NO ONE is covering this live! It is a ratings bonanza waiting to happen, IMO.

Hi lovey :love0081:

LTNS. How are you? I'm good; and my dad is doing...well, ok. He's aging and I hate that.:000a1:

I already emailed KTLA and asked them if they could stream the entire trial live. We need more peeps to email also. Trial should be starting sometime next week.

[sciencegirl]

Jury selection starts for Spector

Phil Spector has always denied murder
Jury selection has begun for the murder retrial of music producer Phil Spector, who is accused of killing actress Lana Clarkson at his mansion five years ago.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Paul asked the initial group of 18 if they could be fair and impartial.

"What we do not want... is people with an agenda," he said.

Last year's trial ended with the jury deadlocked. Lawyers for Mr Spector claim Ms Clarkson, who was shot, committed suicide.

Mr Spector is charged with second-degree murder, but has always denied he had anything to do Ms Clarkson's death.

He has been free on $1m (£570,000) bail since the incident at his Los Angeles mansion in 2003.

Jury selection is expected to last the rest of the week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7681372.stm

[sciencegirl]

Jury selection starts for Spector

Phil Spector has always denied murder
Jury selection has begun for the murder retrial of music producer Phil Spector, who is accused of killing actress Lana Clarkson at his mansion five years ago.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Paul asked the initial group of 18 if they could be fair and impartial.

"What we do not want... is people with an agenda," he said.

Last year's trial ended with the jury deadlocked. Lawyers for Mr Spector claim Ms Clarkson, who was shot, committed suicide.

Mr Spector is charged with second-degree murder, but has always denied he had anything to do Ms Clarkson's death.

He has been free on $1m (£570,000) bail since the incident at his Los Angeles mansion in 2003.

Jury selection is expected to last the rest of the week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7681372.stm


Oh lordy!!! I thought we had a new judge. Larry Paul. But, it's Judge Larry Paul Fidler. They forgot to add his last name. I must see my Judge. Afterall; I am carrying his child. :67302:

[bambam]

Oh lordy!!! I thought we had a new judge. Larry Paul. But, it's Judge Larry Paul Fidler. They forgot to add his last name. I must see my Judge. Afterall; I am carrying his child. :67302:

:blondblush113268230

[lovelaw]

Oh lordy!!! I thought we had a new judge. Larry Paul. But, it's Judge Larry Paul Fidler. They forgot to add his last name. I must see my Judge. Afterall; I am carrying his child. :67302:

CONGRATULATIONS you two silly, impetuous kids!!~:happy0158: When is the little Fidler due?????

[Boscorelli]

I'm glad that I won't be a juror;the DEFENSE would knock me off the jury at the get-go. I am pro Prosecution.I watched the 1st trial.I lost all compassion for Lana Clarkson as testimony came in.
She had a simple choice to say NO to Spector and not go with him that evening.
Lana Clarkson wanted fame and fortune. Her name will always be linked to Spector but not the way she would have wanted.

Boscorelli

[Scampi]

Ghouls everywhere are insulted. :girl_haha:

:happy0158: LOL, indeed they should be little goof!! How fitting that the spector should be haunting the halls of the courthouse during the Halloween season. It's totally unfair that we cannot see all the action.

[lovelaw]

:happy0158: LOL, indeed they should be little goof!! How fitting that the spector should be haunting the halls of the courthouse during the Halloween season. It's totally unfair that we cannot see all the action.


Excellent connection Scampi!!~ Yes...Halloween and Spector do go together!!~ BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA:0devil:

[Boscorelli]

I won't spend my free time or thoughts about Spector;he knows he's guilty of an homicide,more than likely 3rd degree. I will read updates on the message board.
Again Lana Clarkson's lust for fame and fortune ;were the 'key' elements that set the process in motion.
Boscorelli

[Scampi]

Excellent connection Scampi!!~ Yes...Halloween and Spector do go together!!~ BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA:0devil:

Hiya Lovie!! Yep, it's a wonder all the other trial participants
don't ask the Judge if they can wear costumes too......... :kissyface4:

[lovelaw]

Hiya Lovie!! Yep, it's a wonder all the other trial participants
don't ask the Judge if they can wear costumes too......... :kissyface4:

I LOVE THAT IDEA!!~ Hmmmmmm...who would LKB dress as??? :blondblush113268230

And Punkin Pie???????????

Oh...the possibilities are ENDless!!!

OOooo, Ooooooo, I want to dress as the Judge!! CAN I?? CAN I?? :cool:<<<notice he's bald. heehee

[sciencegirl]

I did a search to see if they have picked a jury yet; and I can't find a darn thing. Anyone know if trial starts on Monday???

[sciencegirl]

I'm glad that I won't be a juror;the DEFENSE would knock me off the jury at the get-go. I am pro Prosecution.I watched the 1st trial.I lost all compassion for Lana Clarkson as testimony came in.
She had a simple choice to say NO to Spector and not go with him that evening.
Lana Clarkson wanted fame and fortune. Her name will always be linked to Spector but not the way she would have wanted.

Boscorelli

So; you're saying it was Lana's fault she was murdered??? How sad. You must be a man.:lex_10:

[Boscorelli]

Hi Sciencegirl
I am saying Lana Clarkson made one bad decision after another.Let's look at FACTS
1. She was a hostess,in this upscale restaurant the catered to hollywood's elite.
2.She was unhappy with her life and wanted to be famous.She felt inferior to those about her while working as a hostess.
3. There was a possibility of her making a commerical in the offering,possibility starting the following week. This would have been meetings and discussing contracts.
4.One of the waitress' that served Spector turned him down and said NO,she's alive today.
5. In her desperation for fame,she easily bought into his 'lies' .
6. The limo driver stated that both Spector and Clarkson were drunk when they arrived at the 'castle'
7.There is evidence that both Spector and Clarkson handled the gun;more than likely a heated arguement occured.
I stand by my comment.Clarkson was sober when she made the decision to say YES to Spector's fast track ride to fame. She chose to drink and get drunk in the limo on the way to the castle.
Had she just said NO to Spector,she would be alive today.

Boscorelli

[TobyTiger]

Hi Sciencegirl
I am saying Lana Clarkson made one bad decision after another.Let's look at FACTS
1. She was a hostess,in this upscale restaurant the catered to hollywood's elite.
2.She was unhappy with her life and wanted to be famous.She felt inferior to those about her while working as a hostess.
3. There was a possibility of her making a commerical in the offering,possibility starting the following week. This would have been meetings and discussing contracts.
4.One of the waitress' that served Spector turned him down and said NO,she's alive today.
5. In her desperation for fame,she easily bought into his 'lies' .
6. The limo driver stated that both Spector and Clarkson were drunk when they arrived at the 'castle'
7.There is evidence that both Spector and Clarkson handled the gun;more than likely a heated arguement occured.
I stand by my comment.Clarkson was sober when she made the decision to say YES to Spector's fast track ride to fame. She chose to drink and get drunk in the limo on the way to the castle.
Had she just said NO to Spector,she would be alive today.

Boscorelli

Please clarify #5. What lies are you referring to? She didn't even know who he was prior to the introduction at the House of Blues and the extent of their conversation afterward is unknown.

:0009:

[TobyTiger]

PHIL SPECTOR BREAKS HIS SILENCE... (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3255616/Phil-Spector-breaks-his-silence-over-Lana-Clarkson-murder-trial.html)

He denounced the judge as "a mean son of a bitch who doesn't like me", and insisted: "I was eight feet away from her when she died. It can be proven forensically that I didn't kill her."

The prosecution says otherwise, alleging that the eccentric music legend shot dead Miss Clarkson, a struggling actress and nightclub hostess, at his Los Angeles mansion in February 2003. The defence asserts that Miss Clarkson shot herself.

Spector spoke out in his first television interview for 36 years.

The reclusive star granted unprecedented access to the BBC for the Arena documentary The Agony and the Ecstasy of Phil Spector, in which he also complained bitterly of feeling under-rated by the musical establishment and compared himself to Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci and Galileo.

The interview took place at the time of his first trial, which ended in jury deadlock.

"The only thing that concerns me about the jury trial is the verdict. I could get through it like a breeze," he claimed, adding that the murder charge was part of an establishment "vendetta" against him.

more at the link

[Boscorelli]

Hi TobyTiger
1st thank you for that timely update on Spector. I will try to answer your question.,#5 from my post.
Spector is a man who once enjoy fame,now is a'hasbeen' I remember hearing the testimony that when he dined at the HOUSE of BLUES,he would give a $500.00 tip for a $50.00 tab.
He sized up Clarkson as desperate and probably guessed she was 'starveing for fame;more than likely told her that he had 'connections and could open doors' because he is Phil Spector.Through testimony it also came out he had a poor to bad relationship with women
As it came out through testimony,Clarkson wasn't happy with her life and where it was going. She had over a $30.000.00 debt and couldn't pay her bills,barrowing money from people.
Clarkson was vunerable and desperate at this time and so she was easily taken in by Spector's seduction of the promise of fame.
Of course we will never know what the conversation was between the two parties;but it doesn't take much imagination to guess,connect all the 'DOTS" and look at the facts of this case. Clarkson had been the hostess for some time and Spector dinned their frequently.
If Clarkson was between 18 to 25 years of age,I could have some compassion; do to her inexpierence of what goes on behind Hollywood studios but not a 40 year old woman. She starred in one movie that never made it. Many actors have very short lived fame and soon just fade away.
As always nice talking to you,take care Boscorelli

[kindee]

CONGRATULATIONS you two silly, impetuous kids!!~:happy0158: When is the little Fidler due?????




Is the little Fidler a tiny violin?

heeeeeee Any luck peeps on getting this one on a live feed???? I was gone all weekend. I hoped y'all had solved this little problem. :0012:

[sciencegirl]

Jury selected for Phil Spector murder retrial
3 days ago

LOS ANGELES (AFP) — Jury selection was completed Thursday for the murder retrial of legendary music producer Phil Spector, and main arguments in the case will be heard beginning next Wednesday, court sources said.

Spector, the eccentric musical genius who created the famous "Wall of Sound" recording technique, was accused of shooting dead an actress in his Los Angeles mansion five years ago.

He avoided conviction after a marathon, six-month trial last year that ended with a jury deadlocked 10-2 in favor of finding him guilty, and prosecutors decided to launch a new case against him.

The new jury consists of seven men and five women. Six replacement jurors must be chosen before next Wednesday, when the court hears opening statements by the defense and the public prosecutor.

The trial at Los Angeles Superior Court is expected to last between three and four months, and the fabled producer faces a minimum 15 years to life in prison if he is found guilty of second degree murder.

Prosecutors are seeking to convict Spector, 68, of murdering actress Lana Clarkson, who was found dead in the foyer of the fabled producer's home in the early hours of February 3, 2003.

At his first trial, prosecutors alleged that Spector shot Clarkson as she attempted to leave his home after meeting him for the first time only hours earlier at the Hollywood nightclub where she worked.

Defense lawyers said Clarkson, 40, best-known for her role in Roger Corman's 1985 cult classic "The Barbarian Queen" but whose career had stalled at the time of her death, killed herself.

Spector is regarded as one of the most influential figures in pop music history. In the early 1960s he was responsible for hits including "Da Doo Ron Ron," "Be My Baby" and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin.'"

He is famed for his work with The Beatles, Tina Turner, The Righteous Brothers, The Ronettes and The Ramones.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gTAcHpG4y87ms1kdbKHBQ4hIRoCQ

[sciencegirl]

Is the little Fidler a tiny violin?

heeeeeee Any luck peeps on getting this one on a live feed???? I was gone all weekend. I hoped y'all had solved this little problem. :0012:

Hey Kindee :kissyface4:

:67302: on the tiny violin :67302:

Guess we all need to check the live feed at KTLA on WEDNESDAY:s1gyahoo:

[kindee]

Hey Kindee :kissyface4:

:67302: on the tiny violin :67302:

Guess we all need to check the live feed at KTLA on WEDNESDAY:s1gyahoo:



Well I sent my email demands to them last week; hopefully they are hearing us SG! :happy0158:

[sciencegirl]

Well I sent my email demands to them last week; hopefully they are hearing us SG! :happy0158:

I sent an email also. I do hope they change their mind. Either way; I'm going to watch openings, closings, and the verdict. Oh; and whatever snippets they provide.

I so want to get a glimpse of Judge Fidler again :kissyface4:

[lovelaw]

Is the little Fidler a tiny violin?

heeeeeee Any luck peeps on getting this one on a live feed???? I was gone all weekend. I hoped y'all had solved this little problem. :0012:

LOL!!~

I wish we could say we had some luck!~ Alas....we did not.:frown:

But...YOU'RE BACK!~:kissyface4:

[lovelaw]

PHIL SPECTOR BREAKS HIS SILENCE... (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3255616/Phil-Spector-breaks-his-silence-over-Lana-Clarkson-murder-trial.html)

He denounced the judge as "a mean son of a bitch who doesn't like me", and insisted: "I was eight feet away from her when she died. It can be proven forensically that I didn't kill her."

The prosecution says otherwise, alleging that the eccentric music legend shot dead Miss Clarkson, a struggling actress and nightclub hostess, at his Los Angeles mansion in February 2003. The defence asserts that Miss Clarkson shot herself.

Spector spoke out in his first television interview for 36 years.

The reclusive star granted unprecedented access to the BBC for the Arena documentary The Agony and the Ecstasy of Phil Spector, in which he also complained bitterly of feeling under-rated by the musical establishment and compared himself to Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci and Galileo.

The interview took place at the time of his first trial, which ended in jury deadlock.

"The only thing that concerns me about the jury trial is the verdict. I could get through it like a breeze," he claimed, adding that the murder charge was part of an establishment "vendetta" against him.

more at the link



Thank you Toby!!~ :zm10:

[lovelaw]

Hey Kindee :kissyface4:

:67302: on the tiny violin :67302:

Guess we all need to check the live feed at KTLA on WEDNESDAY:s1gyahoo:

WOO HOO!!~ WEDNESDAY IT IS!!~:s1gyahoo:

[lovelaw]

I sent an email also. I do hope they change their mind. Either way; I'm going to watch openings, closings, and the verdict. Oh; and whatever snippets they provide.

I so want to get a glimpse of Judge Fidler again :kissyface4:

I should hope he'd want a glimpse of you too....as you are carrying the Little Fidler/Tiny Violin!~:grin:

[lovelaw]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3255616/Phil-Spector-breaks-his-silence-over-Lana-Clarkson-murder-trial.html


The most striking image of Spector during the trial was one of him sitting in the courtroom with a bizarre 'Afro'-style hairdo which measured a foot high.

He explained to interviewer Vikram Jayanti that it was a two-part homage - to Albert Einstein and to Ben Wallace, a US basketball player known for his hairstyles.

"That was a tribute to Ben Wallace and to Albert Einstein. It took four-and-a-half hours to get my hair that way. Ben Wallace was the most valuable defensive player of the year for the Detroit Pistons. I spent a lot of time on it but it photographed beyond my wildest dreams. That day it got a little extreme. For some reason, in a dark setting and with a particular camera angle, it photographed much puffier and bigger than it actually was.

"I didn't mean to be that comical. I meant to have a sense of humour, but I didn't look that way in person. It was the shadows in the background. It puffed up to two or three times its actual size. I don't like the idea that anybody thinks I'm taking this not seriously."



<<<END>>>

:thud2:HA HA HA! and OMG! HA HA HA! and
WHAT A DUFFOUS!!~ :thud2:

[Boscorelli]

Yes I remember those BIZARRE FOOT TALL wigs? During the 1st trial,he looked like a drowned rat.
Have no desire to watch the re-trial.After it all said an done,I think the jury will again be deadlocked in favor of GUILTY not of murder but an accidental shooting;that is if the judge gives that as a jury charge.

I have stated it before,if Clarkson had only said NOOO to Spector she would be alive today;and who knows,she might have made a TV commerical.

Boscorelli

[Shotzie]

Hi SG & Bam Bam, I should of came her before I left you guys the message.:104511:.I should of know you two were on top of this:67302:

So Wednesday It is..Yeh, Where do we find those opening camera's..I am so ready

Is Pumpkin on the list again??dying to see her new outfit if she has one.:groan:
Congrat SG on your upcoming offspring..have a name yet:smiley_aasg:

[sciencegirl]

I should hope he'd want a glimpse of you too....as you are carrying the Little Fidler/Tiny Violin!~:grin:

I would think he would want to feast his eyes on the beauty of the woman carrying his child :67302:

[kindee]

WOO HOO!!~ WEDNESDAY IT IS!!~:s1gyahoo:



COOL! :francis:

[sciencegirl]

COOL! :francis:

Hey Kindee - Possible web cam coverage!!:s1gyahoo:

Shotzie sent this to me this morning!!!

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2008/10/phil-spector-retrial-alternate-jurors.html

[annalyzer]

Yes I remember those BIZARRE FOOT TALL wigs? During the 1st trial,he looked like a drowned rat.
Have no desire to watch the re-trial.After it all said an done,I think the jury will again be deadlocked in favor of GUILTY not of murder but an accidental shooting;that is if the judge gives that as a jury charge.

I have stated it before,if Clarkson had only said NOOO to Spector she would be alive today;and who knows,she might have made a TV commerical.

Boscorelli


I didn't watch the first trial. Every time I went to Court TV Extra I had to see a picture of the ugly freak and I just couldn't stomach looking at him.

[kindee]

Hey Kindee - Possible web cam coverage!!:s1gyahoo:

Shotzie sent this to me this morning!!!

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2008/10/phil-spector-retrial-alternate-jurors.html




woooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :happy0158:

[sunstar]

:happy0158: Phil Spector jury chosen for murder retrial :happy0158:

The jury that is set to begin hearing evidence against Phil Spector this week includes panelists with knowledge of guns and suicide, two issues at the heart of the music icon's murder retrial.

According to jury questionnaires made public Monday, six panelists have fired weapons at a gun range or during military service and four keep weapons in their residences.

Spector, 68, is accused in the 2003 fatal shooting of actress Lana Clarkson at his Alhambra mansion. Opening statements are set for Wednesday.

Two jurors indicated negative opinions of gun ownership. One man wrote that the gun owners he knew "express violent behavior." Another juror disclosed membership in a gun control group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-spector28-2008oct28,0,3969159.story

[lovelaw]

woooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :happy0158:

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

The latest from Sprocket. Not the best news..............:groan:

[Boscorelli]

I will continue to read about this 'JERK" on our message board. He will walk because money talks.
Boscorelli

[lovelaw]

Where are we going for the openings???? NOWHERE?????:000a1::1187603408.CR.Mothe

[kindee]

Where are we going for the openings???? NOWHERE?????:000a1::1187603408.CR.Mothe



Oh no oh no oh no oh no!!!!!!!!! no!!!!!!!!!!

[lovelaw]

Oh no oh no oh no oh no!!!!!!!!! no!!!!!!!!!!

I can't find anything on it ANYWHERE!~ KTLA has NO info. on streaming the openings...that I have found!~

NO LINKS!
Nothing HERE. Nothing THERE. Nothing, nothing, anywhere!~
Nothing about a link on 13th Juror
Nothing about a link on Sprocket's blog
Nothing about a link on CNN

:groan: I'll have to go check TruTv!~

[lovelaw]

FROM IN SESSIONS!

Quote:
Originally Posted by in4infor
Rumor has it Opening Statements can be seen here today at 10am:
1pm for the east coast

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26715&src=news

<<<END>>>

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10428476&ch=4226715&src=news

[tbrito1]

Oh come on, we need a trialllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!


hi love!!!

[kindee]

I can't find anything on it ANYWHERE!~ KTLA has NO info. on streaming the openings...that I have found!~

NO LINKS!
Nothing HERE. Nothing THERE. Nothing, nothing, anywhere!~
Nothing about a link on 13th Juror
Nothing about a link on Sprocket's blog
Nothing about a link on CNN

:groan: I'll have to go check TruTv!~


Will they show the little goat?
Will they show Spec. in a coat?
Will they feed us live or not?
Will they give us just one shot?
Can we have it gavel to gavel?
Can we see it without having to travel?
I do not want delayed or in jive
I want to see my Spector LIVE!

[Xmygrits]

Will they show the little goat?
Will they show Spec. in a coat?
Will they feed us live or not?
Will they give us just one shot?
Can we have it gavel to gavel?
Can we see it without having to travel?
I do not want delayed or in jive
I want to see my Spector LIVE!

:67302::happy0158:

[lovelaw]

Oh come on, we need a trialllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!


hi love!!!

WE DO! WE DO!~ I'll be in and out trying to get things done in case this thing gets rolling!!~ WOO HOO! I'm HOPING!!~ Tootles for now!!~

[kindee]

:67302::happy0158:




:friends3: :happy0158: :francis:


lovelaw says this may show a live feed...it's Yahoo but the feed seems to be BBC!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10428476&ch=4226715&src=news

[Xmygrits]

:friends3: :happy0158: :francis:


lovelaw says this may show a live feed...it's Yahoo but the feed seems to be BBC!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10428476&ch=4226715&src=news

OMG I just saw AJ from a clip of PS I and can I just say...dayum! I miss that dude!:flirt99:

[lovelaw]

Will they show the little goat?
Will they show Spec. in a coat?
Will they feed us live or not?
Will they give us just one shot?
Can we have it gavel to gavel?
Can we see it without having to travel?
I do not want delayed or in jive
I want to see my Spector LIVE!

BRAVO!!~ I'll have to think about a response while I'm errand running!


Will we see a brand new wig??
Will we see the defense dig??
Will we see Sumpthin"?
Like maybe a 'Pumpkin'???

Oh...I really hope
If not, I'll really mope!~:frown:

BBL!~:happy0207:

[lovelaw]

OMG I just saw AJ from a clip of PS I and can I just say...dayum! I miss that dude!:flirt99:

ME TOO! I hope the rumor is true, and that we see the openings...at least!~ BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for now!:girl_haha:

[Xmygrits]

ME TOO! I hope the rumor is true, and that we see the openings...at least!~ BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for now!:girl_haha:

:0012::happy0207: Seeyaz soon!

[kindee]

BRAVO!!~ I'll have to think about a response while I'm errand running!


Will we see a brand new wig??
Will we see the defense dig??
Will we see Sumpthin"?
Like maybe a 'Pumpkin'???

Oh...I really hope
If not, I'll really mope!~:frown:

BBL!~:happy0207:




hahahaha!

I HOPE we see a brand new 'do!
I HOPE we see his outfits, too!
I HOPE this time he takes the stand-
I HOPE we see this LIVE, not canned!
I HOPE this trial is phull of Phil-ty
I HOPE this time we get a GUILTY!

[bambam]

FROM IN SESSIONS!

Quote:
Originally Posted by in4infor
Rumor has it Opening Statements can be seen here today at 10am:
1pm for the east coast

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26715&src=news

<<<END>>>

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10428476&ch=4226715&src=news

really????????? omg i hope so!!!!!!! HELLOOOOO EVERYONE!!!!!!!! let's hope this happens!!! i've missed you all SOOOO much!!!!! :0012: :kissyface4: :friends3:

[bambam]

omg i turned on that video...and AJ was talking...and i thought it was happening NOW!! i freaked!!!! LOLLLLOLOLOLLLLLLLL

[kindee]

really????????? omg i hope so!!!!!!! HELLOOOOO EVERYONE!!!!!!!! let's hope this happens!!! i've missed you all SOOOO much!!!!! :0012: :kissyface4: :friends3:



:kissyface4: yay yay yay yayayayayayay

[bambam]

hahahaha!

I HOPE we see a brand new 'do!
I HOPE we see his outfits, too!
I HOPE this time he takes the stand-
I HOPE we see this LIVE, not canned!
I HOPE this trial is phull of Phil-ty
I HOPE this time we get a GUILTY!

:zm10: :happy0158:

[Xmygrits]

really????????? omg i hope so!!!!!!! HELLOOOOO EVERYONE!!!!!!!! let's hope this happens!!! i've missed you all SOOOO much!!!!! :0012: :kissyface4: :friends3:

:love0085::kissyface4: BAM!

[bambam]

does that mean NOON for us central timers??

[johnielee333]

:howdy: howdy partners ! :s1gyahoo:

[bambam]

:love0085::kissyface4: BAM!

X!!! good to see ya, bud!! :0012: :friends3:

[tbrito1]

I wish i hadn't missed the first trial,
wish i hadn't changed that dial,
I need to catch up on what the trials about,
friends say there is no doubt,
all i know is that he has some crazy hair,
and it's not being streamed, how they dare!!!!

how's that?

[Xmygrits]

I wish i hadn't missed the first trial,
wish i hadn't changed that dial,
I need to catch up on what the trials about,
friends say there is no doubt,
all i know is that he has some crazy hair,
and it's not being streamed, how they dare!!!!

how's that?

:happy0158:

[bambam]

:howdy: howdy partners ! :s1gyahoo:

howdy JL!! good to see you too! :0012::friends3:

[bambam]

I wish i hadn't missed the first trial,
wish i hadn't changed that dial,
I need to catch up on what the trials about,
friends say there is no doubt,
all i know is that he has some crazy hair,
and it's not being streamed, how they dare!!!!

how's that?

:happy0158: good one, t!!! how ya doin??? :friends3: :kissyface4:

[kindee]

:howdy: howdy partners ! :s1gyahoo:




:friends3: :happy0207:

[kindee]

I wish i hadn't missed the first trial,
wish i hadn't changed that dial,
I need to catch up on what the trials about,
friends say there is no doubt,
all i know is that he has some crazy hair,
and it's not being streamed, how they dare!!!!

how's that?



:zm10:

[tbrito1]

:happy0158: good one, t!!! how ya doin??? :friends3: :kissyface4:

doing good bam, i just remember you guys always talking about this trial, so glad that the time has come for you all!!! It's so nice being all together again!:kissyface4:

[kindee]

doing good bam, i just remember you guys always talking about this trial, so glad that the time has come for you all!!! It's so nice being all together again!:kissyface4:


It IS---now if we can only get a live feed...:g::innocent0001::innocent0001::innocent000 1::45024::eyebrow1qb:

[johnielee333]

howdy JL!! good to see you too! :0012::friends3:


hi bambam ! :) whats up ?

[johnielee333]

:friends3: :happy0207:

hiya kindee !!! :)

[johnielee333]

It IS---now if we can only get a live feed...:g::innocent0001::innocent0001::innocent000 1::45024::eyebrow1qb:

yes i agree. i wish we could watch the whole trial again not just the openings & stuff.

[kindee]

hiya kindee !!! :)




hello johnielee, how's it going?

[bambam]

doing good bam, i just remember you guys always talking about this trial, so glad that the time has come for you all!!! It's so nice being all together again!:kissyface4:

yes it is! but...i MUST know if we're gonna get a live feed today!!! i have MUCH to do if not...... anybody know if it will start at 12 noon for central timers???

[johnielee333]

hello johnielee, how's it going?

not too bad other than freezing. i hate cold weather ! i wanna move to florida.

[Shotzie]

GOOD MORNING ALL,:kissyface4: Hope we get to see something..just seeing Alan Jackson again..wow he is soo Cute..

Where's SG, r u sleeping in:67302:

Most of you are back east right? I am in California so it should be time to start, It's 9:14 right now..Do they start at 9:30??

At least Sprocket is going I think so we can read her blog.:happy0158:

Going to sleuth other places if I can find out more.
:shrug1:

[johnielee333]

yes it is! but...i MUST know if we're gonna get a live feed today!!! i have MUCH to do if not...... anybody know if it will start at 12 noon for central timers???

its supposed to start at 1pm on that link for toledo ohio. so yeah you would probably get it at 12.

[kindee]

yes it is! but...i MUST know if we're gonna get a live feed today!!! i have MUCH to do if not...... anybody know if it will start at 12 noon for central timers???




I thought for SURE we were at least going to hear opening statements. This is bogus!!!!!

[johnielee333]

I thought for SURE we were at least going to hear opening statements. This is bogus!!!!!

so are you saying that link isnt giving us anything ?

[bambam]

I thought for SURE we were at least going to hear opening statements. This is bogus!!!!!

do we know anything yet? about a live feed?? i'm just keeping that yahoo video up in case something happens....:shrug1:

[tbrito1]

do we know anything yet? about a live feed?? i'm just keeping that yahoo video up in case something happens....:shrug1:

nothing yet bam,,,,,

[kindee]

so are you saying that link isnt giving us anything ?




Nothing yet!

[johnielee333]

do we know anything yet? about a live feed?? i'm just keeping that yahoo video up in case something happens....:shrug1:

yeah i've got it up too.

[bambam]

nothing yet bam,,,,,

omg t, i just noticed your avatar!! how cute!! did you carve that?? is that real??? i love it!! :happy0158:

[tbrito1]

omg t, i just noticed your avatar!! how cute!! did you carve that?? is that real??? i love it!! :happy0158:

are you kidding, i can barely cut a straight line let alone carve a pumpkin this nice. No, can you believe a friend of mine sent it to me via email this morning. It was on http://www.mylifetime.com/lifestyle/gigglerific/gigglerific-halloween-pumpkins.

isn't that funny? I printed it out to give it to my boys.....15 more minutes until we find out if we get to see the trail....:francis:

[johnielee333]

nothing yet bam,,,,,

i agree with bam, your avatar is really cute ! :)

[tbrito1]

i agree with bam, your avatar is really cute ! :)

Thanks Johnielee, nice to see you girl!!!:happy0158:

[johnielee333]

Thanks Johnielee, nice to see you girl!!!:happy0158:

yeah you too. :) :zm10:

[bambam]

are you kidding, i can barely cut a straight line let alone carve a pumpkin this nice. No, can you believe a friend of mine sent it to me via email this morning. It was on http://www.mylifetime.com/lifestyle/gigglerific/gigglerific-halloween-pumpkins.

isn't that funny? I printed it out to give it to my boys.....15 more minutes until we find out if we get to see the trail....:francis:

ya mean they just happened to have a pumpkin that had "brito" on it??? how weird!! i thought it was a site where you could put your name in, and they would make a pic for you!! but it just shows a bunch of pumpkins! wow!!

[kindee]

are you kidding, i can barely cut a straight line let alone carve a pumpkin this nice. No, can you believe a friend of mine sent it to me via email this morning. It was on http://www.mylifetime.com/lifestyle/gigglerific/gigglerific-halloween-pumpkins.

isn't that funny? I printed it out to give it to my boys.....15 more minutes until we find out if we get to see the trail....:francis:




come on live feed! Come on live feed! :francis:

[tbrito1]

ya mean they just happened to have a pumpkin that had "brito" on it??? how weird!! i thought it was a site where you could put your name in, and they would make a pic for you!! but it just shows a bunch of pumpkins! wow!!

yep!!! I didn't think my last name was that common....

[tbrito1]

come on live feed! Come on live feed! :francis:

i'm getting an upset stomach waiting.......i already have a headache!!:1187603408.CR.Mothe

[lovelaw]

It's not looking good folks!~:groan:

[johnielee333]

ok so its 1:05 here & no live feed to spector.

[lovelaw]

i'm getting an upset stomach waiting.......i already have a headache!!:1187603408.CR.Mothe

Me too! DAMM!!


LOVE THE PUMPKIN!~

[tbrito1]

Me too! DAMM!!


LOVE THE PUMPKIN!~

thanks love

[Xmygrits]

yep!!! I didn't think my last name was that common....

I went to high school with two brothers with that last name....hmmmm I wonder if you married one of em?

Dammit man! I wanted to watch this trail. :groan:

[kindee]

It's not looking good folks!~:groan:




I really can't believe this. Can y'all? :madranting94dp::45024:

[lovelaw]

ok so its 1:05 here & no live feed to spector.

This is VERY disappointing!~:frown:

[lovelaw]

Dammit man! I wanted to watch this trail. :groan:

I really can't believe this. Can y'all? :madranting94dp::45024:



This is infuriating!~ We waited so long!~ :mad:

[tbrito1]

I went to high school with two brothers with that last name....hmmmm I wonder if you married one of em?

Dammit man! I wanted to watch this trail. :groan:

:thud2::waitasec: what's their first names????:madranting94dp:

[Xmygrits]

I really can't believe this. Can y'all? :madranting94dp::45024:

Kinda...

Oh well phooey, I'm gonna go work out on my lunch break. BBL sweeties!

[Xmygrits]

:thud2::waitasec: what's their first names????:madranting94dp:

Ron and Kerry

edit: Kerry was in my class.

[tbrito1]

Ron and Kerry

edit: Kerry was in my class.

nope Ron and Kerry aren't really portuguese names...I married a chop!! :67302:

[bambam]

This is infuriating!~ We waited so long!~ :mad:

well CRAP! i went to the store, hoping to come back and find OS's in progress...on a FEED....AARRRGGHH!!!!! :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp:

[kindee]

really. With today's technology, all we need is someone with a little video camera and Skype. What is the problem? We really need to light a fire under people to do live feeds. This trend is getting kind of alarming!

[Precisely]

:mad:All I can say is AAARRRGGGHHHHH! I didn't get to watch the first one, and I was REALLY looking forward to this for the cold weather.

[Xmygrits]

nope Ron and Kerry aren't really portuguese names...I married a chop!! :67302:

Chop? These two were of hispanic orgin...of some sort.

[tbrito1]

Chop? These two were of hispanic orgin...of some sort.

that's what i'm saying, portuguese are known as chops, i'm a chop too!!:happy0158:

[johnielee333]

well this sucks. we have no spector trial ! :(

[Bayou Lass]

HEY EVERYONE!!!!! It's me, it's me. I've missed all of you and was so anxious to be able to see this trial. I am so surprised the KTLA didn't jump on this. Did anyone ever find the feed that was supposed to show tidbits of the trial?:kissyface4:

[Orchid Corsage]

This is VERY disappointing!~:frown:

well CRAP! i went to the store, hoping to come back and find OS's in progress...on a FEED....AARRRGGHH!!!!! :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp:

really. With today's technology, all we need is someone with a little video camera and Skype. What is the problem? We really need to light a fire under people to do live feeds. This trend is getting kind of alarming!

:mad:All I can say is AAARRRGGGHHHHH! I didn't get to watch the first one, and I was REALLY looking forward to this for the cold weather.

:0012: Hi lovelaw :friends3: bambam :friends3: kindee & Precisley:friends3: and Everybody :0012:

All of the above! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I rushed back thinking we were going to at least be able to hear the OS- Grrrrrrr Dang it anyway. I see tru is doing a live trial in FL :puke: :mad:

[Orchid Corsage]

HEY EVERYONE!!!!! It's me, it's me. I've missed all of you and was so anxious to be able to see this trial. I am so surprised the KTLA didn't jump on this. Did anyone ever find the feed that was supposed to show tidbits of the trial?:kissyface4:

BayouLass, doesn't look like it! :thud2:

Well whatever :mad: I hope they cook his arse this time around! :madranting94dp:

[Orchid Corsage]

well this sucks. we have no spector trial ! :(

:0012: johnielee sure does, makes me flaming mad! :mad:

I think Sprocket and her DH were going to be there today. Guess we can read her blog and then have to count on media reports. Sheeeeeesh

[StoneFox]

OMG!!!! Just checking in here. I can't believe there is no coverage of the PS2 trial. I mean, if any station wanted guaranteed viewers for 4 months, this was the trial that would do it.

Well shoot and darn!!! :doh: :mad:

[lovelaw]

well CRAP! i went to the store, hoping to come back and find OS's in progress...on a FEED....AARRRGGHH!!!!! :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp: :madranting94dp:

really. With today's technology, all we need is someone with a little video camera and Skype. What is the problem? We really need to light a fire under people to do live feeds. This trend is getting kind of alarming!

:mad:All I can say is AAARRRGGGHHHHH! I didn't get to watch the first one, and I was REALLY looking forward to this for the cold weather.

well this sucks. we have no spector trial ! :(

HEY EVERYONE!!!!! It's me, it's me. I've missed all of you and was so anxious to be able to see this trial. I am so surprised the KTLA didn't jump on this. Did anyone ever find the feed that was supposed to show tidbits of the trial?:kissyface4:

:0012: johnielee sure does, makes me flaming mad! :mad:

I think Sprocket and her DH were going to be there today. Guess we can read her blog and then have to count on media reports. Sheeeeeesh

OMG!!!! Just checking in here. I can't believe there is no coverage of the PS2 trial. I mean, if any station wanted guaranteed viewers for 4 months, this was the trial that would do it.

Well shoot and darn!!! :doh: :mad:



MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!!~ This is OUTrageous!!~
GRRRRR

[sciencegirl]

Holy Smack!!! I forgot all about Spector today :madranting94dp:

Was there no live feed available??:madranting94dp::madranting94dp:

[sciencegirl]

Actress' Death Center Stage at Spector Retrial


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October 29, 2008

LOS ANGELES -- A Los Angeles prosecutor is portraying eccentric musical genius Phil Spector as man who repeatedly threatened women with guns and could become "very sinister, very
violent and very deadly" when he was drunk and confronted with the right circumstances.

Prosecutor Alan Jackson took aim at Spector during his opening statement today in the murder retrial of Spector in the 2003 death of actress Lana Clarkson. Spector is accused of shooting her after she resisted his sexual advances.

In a speech reminiscent of the one he gave at the first trial, Jackson briefly described the killing of Clarkson at Spector's mansion and flashed pictures on a screen showing her in life and death.

One image showed her body slumped in a chair with blood all over her face.

He also recounted the statement of a chauffeur who told of Spector emerging from the house, saying, "'I think I killed somebody."'

However, most of Jackson's opening statement dealt with a long line of women stretching over 30 years whom he said were threatened with death by a gun-wielding Spector

[johnielee333]

:0012: johnielee sure does, makes me flaming mad! :mad:

I think Sprocket and her DH were going to be there today. Guess we can read her blog and then have to count on media reports. Sheeeeeesh

:happy0207: hey Orchid Corsage, i'm know i'm alittle late but better late than never. :)
i hope they hang his butt.

[sunstar]

Phil Spector Murder Trial: New hairdo, same arguments

Haven't we seen this show before? Phil Spector strolling into court with a new hair style. Prosecutor Alan Jackson was back in court today trying to convince a jury that Spector killed Lana Clarkson. Jackson, who won praise for his aggressive prosecution last time, seems not to have lost any of his zeal. The Times' Harriet Ryan explains:

"You will be introduced to the real Phillip Spector," Deputy Dist. Atty. Alan Jackson told the Superior Court panel. That man, he said, has "a very rich history of violence" toward women that culminated with the murder of Lana Clarkson in the foyer of his Alhambra mansion. "This is how Phil Spector met Lana Clarkson," the prosecutor said as a glamorous head shot of the smiling blond actress appeared on a projection screen. "This is how he left her," he said as a police photo appeared showing Clarkson sprawled dead in a chair with blood on her mouth and nose. In the crowded spectators' gallery, there was a soft gasp.

Harriet on Spector's fashion statement: His "snowy white tie and pocket square stood out against a long black suit jacket and black shirt." Above: Spector today. Below: Spector's look from the first trial.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/10/phil-spector-mu.html

:shrug1:

[Boscorelli]

Hi Sciencegirl
Thank you very much for your update yesterday:happy0158: As far as this trial is concerned ,I don't care what happens.Lana Clarkson failed to take consequences into consideration before she made that fatal choice and went with Spector;her last ride,chauffuer driven,drinking on the road to death.
Clarkson was no innocent babe in the woods.Her idol was Marilyn Monroe.Celebrity is nothing more than a roller coaster ride.There is no written gaurantee of success ,even more how long will the celebrity status last.
Numerous well know celebrities have understood this and quietly provided income through wise investments;against the day when their celebrity would be replaced with a new face.
Since Marilyn Monroe was Clarkson's idol,why would Monroe commit suicide is being a celebrity was so wonderfull and fullfilling? The answer is very simple,what goes on in the person/private life,is not glamorous,these people use drugs/alcohol to cope with the stress.
Clarkson got what she wanted and lusted after. CELEBRITY, made in a CRIMMINAL COURT.NO scripts no retakes no make up artists;and when it is finished Clarkson will be a small footnote;and Spector will be center stage and in the spotlight again.

Boscorelli

[DeeJay]

:attention: For those of us that have watched trials along w/Loni & Marta on KTLA...Marta has been made redundant @ KTLA...Her contract was not renewed as of Oct. 17. :groan:

BUMMER!! :madranting94dp:

[kindee]

:0012: Hi lovelaw :friends3: bambam :friends3: kindee & Precisley:friends3: and Everybody :0012:

All of the above! :1187603408.CR.Mothe

I rushed back thinking we were going to at least be able to hear the OS- Grrrrrrr Dang it anyway. I see tru is doing a live trial in FL :puke: :mad:





hello orchid and all! :friends3: Yes, this is quite a disappointment. The only good thing about it is...maybe with less publicity the jury (a juror?) won't be playing for the cameras or for his 15 minutes of fame or a little power. Maybe this jury will just do its job and move along.

:0012:


and Boscorelli: yeah, we get your trashing of Lana. Thanks.

[Orchid Corsage]

hello orchid and all! :friends3: Yes, this is quite a disappointment. The only good thing about it is...maybe with less publicity the jury (a juror?) won't be playing for the cameras or for his 15 minutes of fame or a little power. Maybe this jury will just do its job and move along.

:0012:


and Boscorelli: yeah, we get your trashing of Lana. Thanks.

:0012: and Good Morning kindee, I hope you are right, and also I hope this trial moves along a bit faster. Sprocket posted a recap of her day in court. :smile:

DH had to appear for jury duty, a two week stent. It started last week, and he only had to appear for two days. Then he didn't have to go back in till today, which is the last day of the two week period. Rats, we thought they would never have him appear today, but NO, he had to go. He called and they are picking a jury for a criminal trial......yikes that could mean a long trial. So he could be going to the city forever more!!!!! It is such a pain to get there with the morning traffic and all the construction. Plus we live an hour away. That would be long long days! I am jus sick that he might be chosen. I have been sick for several months, and I need him around. Pray he get out of it----PRAY PRAY PRAY! :friends3:

When he IM me, I hold my breath as to what the next IM is going to tell me. :1187603408.CR.Mothe

[kindee]

:0012: and Good Morning kindee, I hope you are right, and also I hope this trial moves along a bit faster. Sprocket posted a recap of her day in court. :smile:

DH had to appear for jury duty, a two week stent. It started last week, and he only had to appear for two days. Then he didn't have to go back in till today, which is the last day of the two week period. Rats, we thought they would never have him appear today, but NO, he had to go. He called and they are picking a jury for a criminal trial......yikes that could mean a long trial. So he could be going to the city forever more!!!!! It is such a pain to get there with the morning traffic and all the construction. Plus we live an hour away. That would be long long days! I am jus sick that he might be chosen. I have been sick for several months, and I need him around. Pray he get out of it----PRAY PRAY PRAY! :friends3:

When he IM me, I hold my breath as to what the next IM is going to tell me. :1187603408.CR.Mothe



Well then just for you Orchid I will pray he gets out of jury duty!!!! :friends3:

[Orchid Corsage]

Well then just for you Orchid I will pray he gets out of jury duty!!!! :friends3:

Kindee. thank you! He wouldn't mind doing it if things were different here. I'm still having tests and trying to get use to everything.

Latest IM, one defendant took a plea, they are working on the other one :zm10: :happy0158: :hifive: :s1gyahoo:

When I had jury duty, the gals there said, when the accused know there is a jury available, most take a plea. :smile:

[kindee]

Kindee. thank you! He wouldn't mind doing it if things were different here. I'm still having tests and trying to get use to everything.

Latest IM, one defendant took a plea, they are working on the other one :zm10: :happy0158: :hifive: :s1gyahoo:

When I had jury duty, the gals there said, when the accused know there is a jury available, most take a plea. :smile:



VERY interesting! In both juries I was on (one a child molestation case, one a drug case) BOTH defendants copped a plea right before we went to deliberations.

Good luck in everything Orchid! :1222423:

[Orchid Corsage]

VERY interesting! In both juries I was on (one a child molestation case, one a drug case) BOTH defendants copped a plea right before we went to deliberations.

Good luck in everything Orchid! :1222423:

Kindee, that was a good thing and saved the taxpayers some money! :happy0158: LOL not that too many of us have a lot left :groan:

:madranting94dp: <<<that is me!

No luck here! Nope, the other guy is holding out. They were called up to the courtroom to meet the judge, she said due to the timing, all would break for lunch and meet back there at such and such time! Now I wait! .......:cray:

Well if he has too do his duty, I hope it is a short trial. Thank goodness Cyril isn't up for his trial right now, it could have been him!!!!!!!!!!! And you know how long the last one went on, forever!

I'll keep you posted :smile:

[johnielee333]

Hi Sciencegirl
Thank you very much for your update yesterday:happy0158: As far as this trial is concerned ,I don't care what happens.Lana Clarkson failed to take consequences into consideration before she made that fatal choice and went with Spector;her last ride,chauffuer driven,drinking on the road to death.
Clarkson was no innocent babe in the woods.Her idol was Marilyn Monroe.Celebrity is nothing more than a roller coaster ride.There is no written gaurantee of success ,even more how long will the celebrity status last.
Numerous well know celebrities have understood this and quietly provided income through wise investments;against the day when their celebrity would be replaced with a new face.
Since Marilyn Monroe was Clarkson's idol,why would Monroe commit suicide is being a celebrity was so wonderfull and fullfilling? The answer is very simple,what goes on in the person/private life,is not glamorous,these people use drugs/alcohol to cope with the stress.
Clarkson got what she wanted and lusted after. CELEBRITY, made in a CRIMMINAL COURT.NO scripts no retakes no make up artists;and when it is finished Clarkson will be a small footnote;and Spector will be center stage and in the spotlight again.

Boscorelli

Lana was a human being & she & her family deserve justice in a court of law. she did not deserve to be killed by a nut case. so therefor i do care what happens in this trial. I hope they find him guilty & he goes to prison for the rest of his life,which of course due to his age wont be long. he never considered the consequences of his actions all these years so now he must pay.

A Rose :1222423: for Lana.

[sciencegirl]

Morning fellow peeps :kissyface4:

Just got this email from KTLA and I was like "No frickin kidding" :madranting94dp:

We won’t be streaming the trial at all on the internet. We will have reporters covering the case, but not live on the web. I’m so sorry. I’m having withdrawals myself.



Thanks!



Christine Miceli

Executive Producer, KTLA News

KTLA.COM/ KTLA Digital Multimedia

cmiceli@tribune.com

(323) 460-3965

[sciencegirl]

And...I might add....I'm really disappointed in Michael Bryant and the Legal Edge. He gave us so much hope for watching trials; course; I guess he forgot that he'd need a budget to work with; and not try to charge us to see a frickin trial.:mad::madranting94dp:

Ok...done ranting!!!!

[sciencegirl]

This link is not the actual opening statements; but you at least get to hear the jury makeup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8mQWCZOkvA

[StoneFox]

And...I might add....I'm really disappointed in Michael Bryant and the Legal Edge. He gave us so much hope for watching trials; course; I guess he forgot that he'd need a budget to work with; and not try to charge us to see a frickin trial.:mad::madranting94dp:

Ok...done ranting!!!!

I am too SG!! I kinda feel like I was led to believe something that wasn't totally true. I guess with Spector, he thought he would be able to lease TTV's signal, or whatever it's called.

TTV messed up everybody's coverage, and probably messed up their ratings too. Their programing totally YUCKS these days.

DITTO on the :madranting94dp:

[bambam]

Hi Sciencegirl
Thank you very much for your update yesterday:happy0158: As far as this trial is concerned ,I don't care what happens.Lana Clarkson failed to take consequences into consideration before she made that fatal choice and went with Spector;her last ride,chauffuer driven,drinking on the road to death.
Clarkson was no innocent babe in the woods.Her idol was Marilyn Monroe.Celebrity is nothing more than a roller coaster ride.There is no written gaurantee of success ,even more how long will the celebrity status last.
Numerous well know celebrities have understood this and quietly provided income through wise investments;against the day when their celebrity would be replaced with a new face.
Since Marilyn Monroe was Clarkson's idol,why would Monroe commit suicide is being a celebrity was so wonderfull and fullfilling? The answer is very simple,what goes on in the person/private life,is not glamorous,these people use drugs/alcohol to cope with the stress.
Clarkson got what she wanted and lusted after. CELEBRITY, made in a CRIMMINAL COURT.NO scripts no retakes no make up artists;and when it is finished Clarkson will be a small footnote;and Spector will be center stage and in the spotlight again.

Boscorelli



omg i know you are entitled to your opinion, as are the rest of us....but...damn!! did you know lana personally????? wow....i'm sorry..but IMO you are WAY off base here........sheesh!!

[johnielee333]

omg i know you are entitled to your opinion, as are the rest of us....but...damn!! did you know lana personally????? wow....i'm sorry..but IMO you are WAY off base here........sheesh!!

i agree !

[sunstar]

Juror injury halts testimony in retrial

The first day of testimony in Phil Spector's murder retrial was canceled Thursday after an alternate juror fell in the court parking lot and broke his foot.

Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler said he spoke with the juror, who wanted to get medical attention and return Monday. The trial is not in session on Fridays.

The judge said he was reluctant to lose an alternate juror this early in the retrial for the 68-year-old music producer and would await the man's return. Six alternates were previously selected to be available in case a regular juror has to leave.

The first scheduled witness, retired New York City police Detective Vincent Tannazzo, was in court ready to testify and was ordered to return Monday.

Spector lawyer Doron Weinberg said in his opening statement that he would show Tannazzo "is not who he says he is."

Tannazzo testified at the first murder trial that Spector had been ejected from two Manhattan Christmas parties given in the early 1990s by comedian Joan Rivers after yelling obscenities against women and shouting, "They all deserve a bullet in their heads."

Weinberg called the claim "preposterous" and said the words were never spoken.

The testimony was the subject of pretrial disputes, with the defense claiming the incendiary language attributed to Spector was prejudicial.

Tannazzo is expected to be followed on the stand by Dorothy Melvin, one of Spector's old flames.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g93Q_UR0CRpFh-FS-4UbHXxI-dvAD9450TQO1

[Boscorelli]

Hi BamBam
In reply to your post yesterday,5:38pm.
How can I be 'off base' when the cold blunt facts speak VOLUMES.
1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector
2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk.
3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die.
Clarkson knew the whole Hollywood scene.There was some testimony in the first trial,where she was seriously considering leaveing Hollywood;but never did.Had she left,she would certainly be alive today
THis is a woman who made poor/bad choices in life.Did anyone ever sit down with her and tried to help to understand that she should look into other fields and get training? Prehaps maybe some did and Clarkson ignored that advice.
No murder is ever justified,in a scenario like this one;but one must look at the FACTS. She brought her own death on herself.
1 accepting the invitation with Spector.
2. Getting drunk.
Had Clarkson stayed SOBER,more than likely,she would have seen through this 'JERK"s' slick talk about stardom and told the Limo driver,to take her home.
We make choices,choices have consequences.

Boscorelli

[RayStar]

WOW Bosc, I will not attack your post but I am having a hard time understanding it. How many sober women are in their graves now for following a man? A couple of drinks don't make the average person drunk or at least I don't think she was drunk. Your post sounds like no one should ever dare to meet anyone new. From previous testimony friends of Spector, say he was a gentleman when entertaining them.
Oh well I get from your post Lana should have never breathed. I am glad she was brave and enjoyed life to venture out and taste the good fruits of happiness.

BamBam and Johnielee333 Thanks for the wonderful posts.

[bambam]

Hi BamBam
In reply to your post yesterday,5:38pm.
How can I be 'off base' when the cold blunt facts speak VOLUMES.
1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector
2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk.
3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die.
Clarkson knew the whole Hollywood scene.There was some testimony in the first trial,where she was seriously considering leaveing Hollywood;but never did.Had she left,she would certainly be alive today
THis is a woman who made poor/bad choices in life.Did anyone ever sit down with her and tried to help to understand that she should look into other fields and get training? Prehaps maybe some did and Clarkson ignored that advice.
No murder is ever justified,in a scenario like this one;but one must look at the FACTS. She brought her own death on herself.
1 accepting the invitation with Spector.
2. Getting drunk.
Had Clarkson stayed SOBER,more than likely,she would have seen through this 'JERK"s' slick talk about stardom and told the Limo driver,to take her home.
We make choices,choices have consequences.

Boscorelli

well, bosc..if that's your opinion, so be it...i'm sure there's no changing your mind. you speak as if lana DESERVED to die...from her "poor" choice of going with PS. did you know that her boss told her at work to "treat him like gold" (i believe that was the phrase) because he was such a "valued" customer?? what would be wrong with her going to his house for a couple of drinks...she had no idea to "fear" him...?? and she was hesitant to even go...but hey, why not?? maybe he could provide some tips...some connections at the very least. she had no reason to think otherwise. to paint her as you have is very presumptuous, imo. but oh well....it's YOUR opinion...we know exactly where you stand now! :shrug1:

[bambam]

WOW Bosc, I will not attack your post but I am having a hard time understanding it. How many sober women are in their graves now for following a man? A couple of drinks don't make the average person drunk or at least I don't think she was drunk. Your post sounds like no one should ever dare to meet anyone new. From previous testimony friends of Spector, say he was a gentleman when entertaining them.
Oh well I get from your post Lana should have never breathed. I am glad she was brave and enjoyed life to venture out and taste the good fruits of happiness.

BamBam and Johnielee333 Thanks for the wonderful posts.

right on ray!! DARE we to meet anyone new??? whew!! :zm10:

[kindee]

Lana was a human being & she & her family deserve justice in a court of law. she did not deserve to be killed by a nut case. so therefor i do care what happens in this trial. I hope they find him guilty & he goes to prison for the rest of his life,which of course due to his age wont be long. he never considered the consequences of his actions all these years so now he must pay.

A Rose :1222423: for Lana.




Right on Johnielee! I was getting :0009: about that "Lana deserved it so who cares what happens at Spector's trial?" stuff. You answered it better than I ever could. :friends3:

[Bayou Lass]

Hi BamBam
In reply to your post yesterday,5:38pm.
How can I be 'off base' when the cold blunt facts speak VOLUMES.
1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector
2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk.
3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die.
Clarkson knew the whole Hollywood scene.There was some testimony in the first trial,where she was seriously considering leaveing Hollywood;but never did.Had she left,she would certainly be alive today
THis is a woman who made poor/bad choices in life.Did anyone ever sit down with her and tried to help to understand that she should look into other fields and get training? Prehaps maybe some did and Clarkson ignored that advice.
No murder is ever justified,in a scenario like this one;but one must look at the FACTS. She brought her own death on herself.
1 accepting the invitation with Spector.
2. Getting drunk.
Had Clarkson stayed SOBER,more than likely,she would have seen through this 'JERK"s' slick talk about stardom and told the Limo driver,to take her home.
We make choices,choices have consequences.

Boscorelli

I have read your posts on different threads. Why are you always so negative towards everything? You very seldom have lose that negativity no matter what the subject. Lana Clarkson was a human being that did not deserve what happened to her. You put most of the blame on her for being as you say she was star struck and looking for fame, how do you know this? She wanted to pursue an acting career and that is her choice in life not yours to condemn her for it. I would just like to know what your problem is with all of the negativity you continually spout?:confused:

[kindee]

right on BLass. Lana was a person trying to succeed in a VERY hard business. She should be commended for sticking to her dreams, not dismissed as someone who brought about her own demise and asked for it. That's just ludicrous and mean. Phil Spector is on trial here as he well should be.

Talk about not ever having to answer to the consequences of his actions! Phil Spector is the poster boy for avoiding consequences of HIS actions, his gun foreplay and HIS history of abusing women. Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs: on the killer.

*sigh* I hate to use the ignore button but sometimes I just have to.

[Bayou Lass]

right on BLass. Lana was a person trying to succeed in a VERY hard business. She should be commended for sticking to her dreams, not dismissed as someone who brought about her own demise and asked for it. That's just ludicrous and mean. Phil Spector is on trial here as he well should be.

Talk about not ever having to answer to the consequences of his actions! Phil Spector is the poster boy for avoiding consequences of HIS actions, his gun foreplay and HIS history of abusing women. Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs: on the killer.

*sigh* I hate to use the ignore button but sometimes I just have to.

Right on Girl Friend. Lana was a beautiful person and was truly loved by all that knew her, except in the end some of her friends (Punkin') really dissed on her for their five minutes of fame. I am truly disappointed that this trial is not being streamed because I was really wanting to see this nut case get what he deserves. What a day it will be when this jury will hopefully bring in a guilty verdict and justice will finally be served for Lana, her family and all those who truly cared for her.:1222423:

[sciencegirl]

Juror injury halts testimony in retrial

The first day of testimony in Phil Spector's murder retrial was canceled Thursday after an alternate juror fell in the court parking lot and broke his foot.

Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler said he spoke with the juror, who wanted to get medical attention and return Monday. The trial is not in session on Fridays.

The judge said he was reluctant to lose an alternate juror this early in the retrial for the 68-year-old music producer and would await the man's return. Six alternates were previously selected to be available in case a regular juror has to leave.

The first scheduled witness, retired New York City police Detective Vincent Tannazzo, was in court ready to testify and was ordered to return Monday.

Spector lawyer Doron Weinberg said in his opening statement that he would show Tannazzo "is not who he says he is."

Tannazzo testified at the first murder trial that Spector had been ejected from two Manhattan Christmas parties given in the early 1990s by comedian Joan Rivers after yelling obscenities against women and shouting, "They all deserve a bullet in their heads."

Weinberg called the claim "preposterous" and said the words were never spoken.

The testimony was the subject of pretrial disputes, with the defense claiming the incendiary language attributed to Spector was prejudicial.

Tannazzo is expected to be followed on the stand by Dorothy Melvin, one of Spector's old flames.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g93Q_UR0CRpFh-FS-4UbHXxI-dvAD9450TQO1

OMG!! That is unbelievable!!! I see court is still closed on Fridays :groan:

[sciencegirl]

well, bosc..if that's your opinion, so be it...i'm sure there's no changing your mind. you speak as if lana DESERVED to die...from her "poor" choice of going with PS. did you know that her boss told her at work to "treat him like gold" (i believe that was the phrase) because he was such a "valued" customer?? what would be wrong with her going to his house for a couple of drinks...she had no idea to "fear" him...?? and she was hesitant to even go...but hey, why not?? maybe he could provide some tips...some connections at the very least. she had no reason to think otherwise. to paint her as you have is very presumptuous, imo. but oh well....it's YOUR opinion...we know exactly where you stand now! :shrug1:

WOW Bosc, I will not attack your post but I am having a hard time understanding it. How many sober women are in their graves now for following a man? A couple of drinks don't make the average person drunk or at least I don't think she was drunk. Your post sounds like no one should ever dare to meet anyone new. From previous testimony friends of Spector, say he was a gentleman when entertaining them.
Oh well I get from your post Lana should have never breathed. I am glad she was brave and enjoyed life to venture out and taste the good fruits of happiness.

BamBam and Johnielee333 Thanks for the wonderful posts.

right on BLass. Lana was a person trying to succeed in a VERY hard business. She should be commended for sticking to her dreams, not dismissed as someone who brought about her own demise and asked for it. That's just ludicrous and mean. Phil Spector is on trial here as he well should be.

Talk about not ever having to answer to the consequences of his actions! Phil Spector is the poster boy for avoiding consequences of HIS actions, his gun foreplay and HIS history of abusing women. Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs: on the killer.

*sigh* I hate to use the ignore button but sometimes I just have to.

Right on Girl Friend. Lana was a beautiful person and was truly loved by all that knew her, except in the end some of her friends (Punkin') really dissed on her for their five minutes of fame. I am truly disappointed that this trial is not being streamed because I was really wanting to see this nut case get what he deserves. What a day it will be when this jury will hopefully bring in a guilty verdict and justice will finally be served for Lana, her family and all those who truly cared for her.:1222423:

AMEN Sistah's!!!! I guess it is only the male breed that is able to network among people in the business to grow their business; or rise in the ranks of their business. And to think; all the networking I did when I was working was unacceptable.

I think someone needs to do some research and find out why the male breed are the #1 killers of women in America. Oh; and they are so in Rape, Burglary, Home Invasion, and pedophilla crimes. We women are merely trying to make our way in this world; unfortunately; moster men sometimes prevent us from doing so.:madranting94dp: You know; men with attitudes like Bosco.

[Pandabear]

It doesn't matter what Lana did, who she did it with or where she did it, she DID NOT deserve to die at the hands of this wee little monster. To even suggest that she brought this on herself is just appalling to me and makes me very angry. Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

:thud2:

[johnielee333]

people make bad choice's all the time but that doesnt mean they deserve to be killed by a Psychotic jerk who has done nothing but put fear in women. sure, what if she did this or what if she did that. what IF's doesnt matter. what matters is a woman was killed & the person that killed her needs to pay for it. the fact is, she was killed by his threating ways as he always was threating women with guns & he should not be on the streets anymore. he should of been locked up years ago. this so called man is mental & should be locked up for killing a woman. i cant believe someone can sit here & blame the victim. its like someone putting the blame on the victim who was raped, saying it was her fault. i just dont have any understanding of that. it makes me sick.

Justice for Lana ! :1222423:

[Bayou Lass]

^^^ All of the above and that's the way we feel and are sticking to it!! He killed her and now he needs to go to prison instead of roaming the streets
a free man. He is low-life and now justice needs to be done for this victim and her family and friends.:friends3:

[bambam]

AMEN to all of the above!! (BLass,kindee, sg, panda,raystar and JL!!)

[johnielee333]

i agree , AMEN to all !

[johnielee333]

i agree , AMEN to all !

AMEN to BamBam's & the one's she pointed out.

[kindee]

AMEN indeed!!!!!!

[bambam]

amen indeed!!!!!!

:0012:

[sunstar]

OMG!! That is unbelievable!!! I see court is still closed on Fridays :groan:

This retrial might just move along as slowly as the first one! :022:

[sunstar]

AMEN to all of the above!! (BLass,kindee, sg, panda,raystar and JL!!)

Add me to the list ~ I just read through the posts today. :1222423: for Lana

[Sprocket]

Hello everyone,

As you know I attended opening statements. I am working on a detailed entry covering the whole day. It may take a while, since I filled up an entire spiral notebook with notes; about 100 pages. I will try to have it finished by late Sunday evening but I may not get it completely done and edited until Wednesday.

[sunstar]

Hello everyone,

As you know I attended opening statements. I am working on a detailed entry covering the whole day. It may take a while, since I filled up an entire spiral notebook with notes; about 100 pages. I will try to have it finished by late Sunday evening but I may not get it completely done and edited until Wednesday.

Thanks so much Sprocket! :love0081:

[TobyTiger]

Hi TobyTiger
1st thank you for that timely update on Spector. I will try to answer your question.,#5 from my post.
Spector is a man who once enjoy fame,now is a'hasbeen' I remember hearing the testimony that when he dined at the HOUSE of BLUES,he would give a $500.00 tip for a $50.00 tab.
He sized up Clarkson as desperate and probably guessed she was 'starveing for fame;more than likely told her that he had 'connections and could open doors' because he is Phil Spector.Through testimony it also came out he had a poor to bad relationship with women
As it came out through testimony,Clarkson wasn't happy with her life and where it was going. She had over a $30.000.00 debt and couldn't pay her bills,barrowing money from people.
Clarkson was vunerable and desperate at this time and so she was easily taken in by Spector's seduction of the promise of fame.
Of course we will never know what the conversation was between the two parties;but it doesn't take much imagination to guess,connect all the 'DOTS" and look at the facts of this case. Clarkson had been the hostess for some time and Spector dinned their frequently.
If Clarkson was between 18 to 25 years of age,I could have some compassion; do to her inexpierence of what goes on behind Hollywood studios but not a 40 year old woman. She starred in one movie that never made it. Many actors have very short lived fame and soon just fade away.
As always nice talking to you,take care Boscorelli
Thank you for your reply and explanation...

I do agree completely with your assessment of Spector.

[bambam]

Hi BamBam
In reply to your post yesterday,5:38pm.
How can I be 'off base' when the cold blunt facts speak VOLUMES.
1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector
2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk.
3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die.
Clarkson knew the whole Hollywood scene.There was some testimony in the first trial,where she was seriously considering leaveing Hollywood;but never did.Had she left,she would certainly be alive today
THis is a woman who made poor/bad choices in life.Did anyone ever sit down with her and tried to help to understand that she should look into other fields and get training? Prehaps maybe some did and Clarkson ignored that advice.
No murder is ever justified,in a scenario like this one;but one must look at the FACTS. She brought her own death on herself.1 accepting the invitation with Spector.
2. Getting drunk.
Had Clarkson stayed SOBER,more than likely,she would have seen through this 'JERK"s' slick talk about stardom and told the Limo driver,to take her home.
We make choices,choices have consequences.

Boscorelli

jeeez.. i was just passing thru and happened to read your post one more time. actually...i read over it several times...as i find it completely unbelievable. the more i read it, the more surreal it becomes. mind-blowing, really.

i just felt compelled to reply once again.... (not that it will do any good)

so you say....

1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector--

yes she did. so what? and why not? she had been told by her employers that he was a famous music producer...and to "treat him like gold".... it's tough in hollywood...how else can you make contacts...if you never "make contact"??? she had no reason to fear him. she had no idea who he was until that night. she learned he was a regular there...nobody gave her any dire warnings about this man. (too bad none of the other women that PS threatened with guns weren't there to warn her, huh?)


2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk---

she had just gotten off work where she had drank NOTHING--- i seriously doubt she managed to get drunk during the drive to the castle. just being realistic here.


3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die...

yes she did go willingly. and yes...she "would die" at the hands of phil spector....the odds were in his favor that THIS time his gun antics with the ladies would go too far and have tragic consequences.

lana clarkson did nothing wrong. she had no reason to suspect there was a monster lurking within spector. i'm sure she assumed him to be a decent human being. and why wouldn't she? her big mistake, in the eyes of phil spector anyway...was that she was ready to GO...she wanted to leave.....

and you say for her "poor choices" she brought her death onto herself???????? do you really believe that???

the only person i see that made "poor choices" was PHIL SPECTOR....

when he decided to not allow the woman to leave.....when he decided to pull a gun out and start threatening her....


i'm truly amazed that you have the gall to bash this victim. you didn't know her. you have been presumptuous in the extreme, imo. i certainly don't understand it and i don't believe anyone else here does either.

[bambam]

Hello everyone,

As you know I attended opening statements. I am working on a detailed entry covering the whole day. It may take a while, since I filled up an entire spiral notebook with notes; about 100 pages. I will try to have it finished by late Sunday evening but I may not get it completely done and edited until Wednesday.

:0012: hiya sprocket! you da bomb, girl! great work on the blog! what would we do without you?? :francis:

[IfIMay]

I'm sad we won't get to see this trial, but maybe that will take the "drama" away, and Lana will get justice this time. I really want to see Spector behind bars before Christmas!

Looking forward to your take on it, Sprocket.

[lovelaw]

~~Thanks SPROCKET!!~~

[kindee]

Hello everyone,

As you know I attended opening statements. I am working on a detailed entry covering the whole day. It may take a while, since I filled up an entire spiral notebook with notes; about 100 pages. I will try to have it finished by late Sunday evening but I may not get it completely done and edited until Wednesday.




Sprocket, you are rocking this trial. I can't find ANY info other than yours.

Rock on my friend! :happy0158:

[kindee]

I'm sad we won't get to see this trial, but maybe that will take the "drama" away, and Lana will get justice this time. I really want to see Spector behind bars before Christmas!

Looking forward to your take on it, Sprocket.




hiya iffster!!!!! :friends3:

[gramvof14]

jeeez.. i was just passing thru and happened to read your post one more time. actually...i read over it several times...as i find it completely unbelievable. the more i read it, the more surreal it becomes. mind-blowing, really.

i just felt compelled to reply once again.... (not that it will do any good)

so you say....

1.Clarkson made the choice to go with Spector--

yes she did. so what? and why not? she had been told by her employers that he was a famous music producer...and to "treat him like gold".... it's tough in hollywood...how else can you make contacts...if you never "make contact"??? she had no reason to fear him. she had no idea who he was until that night. she learned he was a regular there...nobody gave her any dire warnings about this man. (too bad none of the other women that PS threatened with guns weren't there to warn her, huh?)


2.Clarkson made the choice to get drunk in the car,while on route to the 'castle' This was stated clearly by Limo driver.Both Spector & Clarkson were visably drunk---

she had just gotten off work where she had drank NOTHING--- i seriously doubt she managed to get drunk during the drive to the castle. just being realistic here.


3. Clarkson willingly went into the castle with Spector and would die...

yes she did go willingly. and yes...she "would die" at the hands of phil spector....the odds were in his favor that THIS time his gun antics with the ladies would go too far and have tragic consequences.

lana clarkson did nothing wrong. she had no reason to suspect there was a monster lurking within spector. i'm sure she assumed him to be a decent human being. and why wouldn't she? her big mistake, in the eyes of phil spector anyway...was that she was ready to GO...she wanted to leave.....

and you say for her "poor choices" she brought her death onto herself???????? do you really believe that???

the only person i see that made "poor choices" was PHIL SPECTOR....

when he decided to not allow the woman to leave.....when he decided to pull a gun out and start threatening her....


i'm truly amazed that you have the gall to bash this victim. you didn't know her. you have been presumptuous in the extreme, imo. i certainly don't understand it and i don't believe anyone else here does either.
Hi Bam ITA with what you said and its people like Boscorelli that put killers back on the street to kill again by blaming the victim, thats pretty damn pathetic.JMOO:71541::104511:

[gramvof14]

I have read your posts on different threads. Why are you always so negative towards everything? You very seldom have lose that negativity no matter what the subject. Lana Clarkson was a human being that did not deserve what happened to her. You put most of the blame on her for being as you say she was star struck and looking for fame, how do you know this? She wanted to pursue an acting career and that is her choice in life not yours to condemn her for it. I would just like to know what your problem is with all of the negativity you continually spout?:confused:
AMEN SISTAH ITA gramv

[bambam]

hiya iffster!!!!! :friends3:

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[bambam]

hi bam ita with what you said and its people like boscorelli that put killers back on the street to kill again by blaming the victim, thats pretty damn pathetic.jmoo:71541::104511:

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[kindee]

Hi Bam ITA with what you said and its people like Boscorelli that put killers back on the street to kill again by blaming the victim, thats pretty damn pathetic.JMOO:71541::104511:




Right on gram! :happy0158:

[kindee]

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helllllooooooo bam!!!! :friends3:

[bambam]

hellooooooooo kindee & gram!! i've been trying to say hello for the last 10 minutes or so....my puter is acting all :francis: it won't let me quote anyone!! aarrggghh!!

[sciencegirl]

Holla peeps :s1gyahoo:

How's everyone doing?? Anyone still here?? Well; nothing new here. Just missing ya'll :kissyface4::love0081::friends3:

[kindee]

Holla peeps :s1gyahoo:

How's everyone doing?? Anyone still here?? Well; nothing new here. Just missing ya'll :kissyface4::love0081::friends3:




awwwwwww me too! I'm so lonely for a good trial and all y'all!

:friends3::friends3::hifive::s1gyahoo::friends3: